Football Talk 2004/2005 (Soccer) [Archive] - Page 16

Mike the Metal Ed

03-18-2005, 01:53 PM

I think he will, he looked great after his goal on Tuesday, and i reckon we've got a decent chance, West Ham fans will get on the teams back if they struggle and the pressure is really mounting on Pardew as it is.

Weird thing is the only time we've beat them was under one of our worst managers, Peter Taylor, and i was in Spain at the time. I remember asking 2 Portsmouth fans who myself and my dad met at a bar if they knew the score and they said we'd lost 4-2 :mad:

Got the paper the following morning to find that super Darren Eadie had got the only goal. I suppose the moral of the story is not to trust people you find in a bar at 2am, who have clearly been drinking for hours :(

One time, we went to a sports pub in Spain, to watch the League Cup scoreflashes, as Leicester were away at Grimsby, defending our Coca Cola Cup, we lost 3-0.

When we got back to the hotel, there were two Grimsby fans sitting at the hotel bar. :mad:

Y2Ant

03-18-2005, 01:53 PM

Lisbon, hmmm

Should be able to beat them :mad:

Hugo Viana is banned from playing :cool:

Mike the Metal Ed

03-18-2005, 01:58 PM

Also, I went up the Walkers today, and got my tickets for the Withdean Stadium in April. :cool:

We better win. :mad:

Wengerland

03-18-2005, 03:36 PM

sadsadfdasfsd

GREAT GOAL FROM GILLESPIE

2-1 up at half time, COME ON LADS

Rob

03-18-2005, 04:28 PM

Ref is a joke. No excuse for not sending off Bywater. He was the last man and he Stephen Hughes was rounding him. Red card. Dabizas didn't deliberately handle the ball, nor was he the last man and yet the ref sent him off in a heartbeat.

And Chris Kamara is a fucking tool.

Wengerland

03-18-2005, 05:06 PM

I'll take the point considering events and that we hardly get anything from West Ham, but that was all we deserved anyway, maybe if Bywater had gone it would have turned out different but second half we were shocking.

Wengerland

03-18-2005, 05:08 PM

I'm not going to talk about the ref, that's 3 games in a row where we've had shit ones.

Rob Ban Fan

03-18-2005, 05:11 PM

Jesus Christ, Marlon Harewood is fucking terrible. I hate him so much. Useless donkey.

Mr. Monday Morning

03-18-2005, 05:52 PM

I always thought Harewood was a headless chicken when he started at Forest, but then he seemed to score goals fairly regularly for West Ham *shrug*

Good to know I'm right :cool:

Dazz

03-19-2005, 12:48 AM

I remember Harewood playing at the Bridge years back in a night game, him and LeBouef (I think) had a tussle, I think Harewood got sent off or gave away a penalty that game, but he acted like a twat all game, I also shall express my disliking of him.

Cactus Sid

03-19-2005, 09:26 AM

I tell you what, Lehmann has had a really solid game today

Cactus Sid

03-19-2005, 09:33 AM

Ha Ha, all Arsenal's cheating has led to 5 minutes being added on

Oh look, Reyes is on the ground AGAIN

I love Arsenal's football, but aside from that they really are a disgrace

The Mackem

03-19-2005, 01:03 PM

Top of the league, Wigan and Ipswich both drew away to lower league opposition.

Mr. Monday Morning

03-19-2005, 01:33 PM

Draw :'(

Cactus Sid

03-19-2005, 01:43 PM

Come on Norwich, behind Everton is bad enough....

Wengerland

03-19-2005, 02:22 PM

While you're occasionally here Mackem, is Matty Piper fit again yet?

Rob Ban Fan

03-19-2005, 03:42 PM

top atmosphere

Matt Messias is a fucking cock though. Someone needs to explain to him that when someone commits a foul, you don't HAVE to book them for it. He booked like 10 people and it wasn't a nasty game :|

Also, apparently Stoney was offside for our goal :cool:

Dazz

03-19-2005, 07:28 PM

Top of the league, <s>Wigan and Ipswich both drew away to lower league opposition.</s>

I know the feeling :cool:

Mr. Monday Morning

03-19-2005, 08:59 PM

SUPER <s>Y2ANT</s> KEZMAN

Y2Ant

03-19-2005, 10:57 PM

yesss :cool:

The Mackem

03-20-2005, 07:38 AM

While you're occasionally here Mackem, is Matty Piper fit again yet?
Nah, Matty is like Darren Anderton. He gets back from one injury and then injures himself again. It's a shame, he's a good player.

toxic rooster

03-20-2005, 08:22 AM

Missed the blackburn game last night, hearing there were chants of 1-0 to the referee. I'm sure someone can fill me in on how disgraceful Arsenal were.

Cactus Sid

03-20-2005, 08:35 AM

Diving, Holding their faces everytime they got challenged, being down for about 5 minutes everytime they got fouled, I know Blackburn are a physical side, but Arsenal were just ridiculous.

Everytime a commentator says "If Vieira is down something must be up" I just want to hit them.

toxic rooster

03-20-2005, 08:50 AM

:o I see what you mean. There was a highlights thing on here just a minute ago. At one stage, Reyes (i think) got pushed in the chest and held his face :nono:

Rob Ban Fan

03-20-2005, 09:26 AM

Blackburn probably deserved it :mad:

Rob

03-20-2005, 11:12 AM

Cactus Sid

03-20-2005, 12:58 PM

Is it wrong to wish the death of Andy Gray?

Anyway, great result for us, Baros can be such a cunt at times, but we got the 3 points, lets hope Nando and Didi aren't out for too long.

Wengerland

03-20-2005, 01:14 PM

Arsenal have the biggest divers in the league. They did the diving segment they do on Soccer AM yesterday and it had 3 Arsenal players in it from one match (Vieira being one of them and probably the worst play actor of the lot). No other team even had 2.

Joey Gudjonsson was there :cool:

It wasn't too bad to be fair, held his face after being pushed in the chest, but we've only had Lee Morris who dives, and he's always injured. Joe Cole is on there a lot recently, which is quite annoying.

Dazz

03-20-2005, 01:30 PM

Arsenal have the biggest divers in the league. They did the diving segment they do on Soccer AM yesterday and it had 3 Arsenal players in it from one match (Vieira being one of them and probably the worst play actor of the lot). No other team even had 2.

We had Joe Cole and Drogba :$. Which was a let off really, because Drogba should have been there about five times. Cole was diving and play acting a couple of times yesterday, fucking disgraceful.

But yeah when that players hand made contact with Vieira's chest and he went down holding his face that was the worst of them all.

packt up

03-20-2005, 01:55 PM

Hello again.

Well Newcastle are on the way up kinda - can't believe it but all power to Souness. I fancy us for the UEFA but its gonna be tough in FA.

Drogba is fucking terrible.
Baros was shit and a twat today.
How are we all anyways?

packt up

03-20-2005, 01:59 PM

Oh and hats off to RBF who recognised Glenn Johnson's talent to me in a private message.

YOU ARE FORGIVEN :love:

Y2Ant

03-20-2005, 02:08 PM

Haha, my mate is at uni in Liverpool, he was in the student union bar and there was fighting everywhere, everyone getting chucked out :love:

Y2Ant

03-20-2005, 02:09 PM

and last week he saw some guys pull up to a house across the road from his flat, smash the window and steal a TV and drive off :o

03-20-2005, 02:21 PM

Baros = complete pish

Doink

03-20-2005, 02:26 PM

champions league ?????? we are fucking lucky to be in premier league on our current form. Zenden was shit, i dont think he completed 1 pass today and jimmy needs to shut the fuck up and get his game right before critising others.

job and nemeth :mad: they whinge they dont get there game but do fuck all when they do play. bring back maccarone and ricketts all is forgiven.

o my god we are that bad i want ricketts back :'(

sack maclaren and bring in the dream team of tony mowbray and bernie slaven :love:

speaking of divers i think oliver bernard bought a sniper with him today, everytime anyone went near him he went down like he'd been shoot. think he will make it on soccer am's extras from platoon segment next week.

btw geoff shreeves :love: i couldnt help laughin when tim lovejoy (talking soccer am here) asked if robbie savage would be playing yesterday and he checked his sheet and said no ive been informed hes out with a hairline fracture of his hair and a chipped fingernail. :lol:

Cactus Sid

03-20-2005, 02:32 PM

Baros = complete pish

What bothers me is that he is actually a class player and a good goal scorer, but right now he's just abysmal.

If Nando's out for a while, we're screwed

packt up

03-20-2005, 03:03 PM

Whenever you say nando I think chicken.

Rob Ban Fan

03-20-2005, 05:32 PM

Oh and hats off to RBF who recognised Glenn Johnson's talent to me in a private message.

YOU ARE FORGIVEN :love:

:love:

diothoir

03-20-2005, 06:17 PM

o my god we are that bad i want ricketts back :'(

You can fucking have him. Useless twat.

Healy and Hulse :heart:

packt up

03-20-2005, 06:55 PM

Oh and one more thing RBF next time you play Newcastle why don't you make sure Steve Stone ain't playing for you.

THANKS

Jacko

03-20-2005, 07:14 PM

Ricketts.

Funny story.

How did he play for England?

Dazz

03-20-2005, 08:03 PM

Drogba is fucking terrible.
How are we all anyways?

Yeah coz it wasn't him that knocked you out of Europe last season. It also wasn't him that turned the game around againt you at Stamford Bridge this season. It's called a bad patch, he is class.

And I am OK.

packt up

03-20-2005, 08:43 PM

Its called a one season wonder.

Nice to see you are ok though Dazz :)

Dazz

03-20-2005, 08:48 PM

One season wonder my arse, he annhilated you and Liverpool last season, and has been the man this season, a few bad games is all it is. Wait till he shows who is boss in the Champions League and the last game of the season.

Also, rumour has it you get FIVE weeks off for Easter at Warwick uni, is this true :mad:

packt up

03-21-2005, 06:14 AM

Ogen

03-21-2005, 10:30 AM

Dean Richards retired today after battling a brain tumour. Wasn't too bad a player a few years back and holds the record of most expensive uncapped British player as far as I know.

packt up

03-21-2005, 10:32 AM

Of YOUR most expensive uncapped British player?? :wtf:

If you meant most expensive uncapped British player then I would have thought Kevin Davies would be top off the top of my head. :meh:

Shame about the tumour too :( he wasn't a bad player at all.

packt up

03-21-2005, 10:35 AM

Oh and one more thing this comment from Benitez really pisses me off:

Baros was sent off after 77 minutes for a rash tackle on Alan Stubbs, but Benitez refused to criticise the Czech striker.

"Maybe Milan deserved a red card but it's easy to show a red card in that situation," he said

:wtf:...so he deserved but its easy to show a red card when its deserved. OK RAFA

Ogen

03-21-2005, 10:37 AM

Fuck knows where the my came from :D and I dunno about Davies was only a fact I heard today when I heard he was retiring. Perhaps its all his transfers added togethere or something.

Dazz

03-21-2005, 12:31 PM

Come on Dazz tell it like it is - he was the man last season, then terrible this season WITH THE OCCASIONAL GOOD GAME. But in general rubbish. He's probably just low on confidence.

Your team got charged with disripute today along wit a few members of staff - i'm pretty bored of this story now.

And yeah 5 weeks WHAT ABOUT IT :cool:

What? You have got this in reverse, he has the occasional bad game, he is powerful, can shrug off defenders, hold the ball up, has some skill and is a team player. Aside from that he is a great finisher, he has scored three braces this season, not that thats overly impressive, but he can't be bad if he does that. You clearly don't watch much of Chelsea if you can't see the importance and brilliance of Drogba.

packt up

03-21-2005, 12:40 PM

The words "great finisher" just made all your other words meaningless to me Dazz.

Alan Shearer is a great finisher, RVN is a great finisher, I wouldn't even say Thierry Henry is a great finisher (good but not great, great player though) so how you can say Drogba is is beyond me.

Wengerland

03-21-2005, 01:01 PM

Richards probably is the most expensive Brit who's not been capped, he cost Spurs £8m i think, Davies was £7.25m from Southampton to Blackburn.

Dazz

03-21-2005, 01:08 PM

Packt Up, you clearly don't ever watch Didier Drogba play.

Ogen

03-21-2005, 02:01 PM

Drogba is a hard working cunt and I rate him, however you can't say hes a great finisher. At least not great in the sense that Chelsea need.

Rob

03-21-2005, 02:05 PM

I don't think he'll be at Chelsea next season as a starter. Possible bench warmer. Last season he looked the nuts but I'm glad we didn't sign him based on this season.

Still, he pisses on Kezman.

Doink

03-21-2005, 03:27 PM

drogba looks good to me but then again i have to watch nemeth every week !

seriously though, id say lampard was a better finisher than him but drogba seems to have that knack of being in or around the goal at important times

Doink

03-21-2005, 03:31 PM

o and its a shame about dean richards, i thought he was a good player on his day, not sure if he was more expensive than davies tho think MuzzE has the fee's right but was'nt James Beattie involved int the Davies transfer and does a player + cash deal count as being more as think Beattie was valued at about £1m in that transfer.

Cactus Sid

03-21-2005, 04:25 PM

El Capitano Gatisto

03-21-2005, 07:08 PM

http://www.sportbox.tv/images/actionimages/football/2005/03/20/1111345356_SPT_AI23_LiverpoolvEvert.jpg

http://www.sportbox.tv/images/actionimages/football/2005/03/20/1111345341_SPT_AI22_LiverpoolvEvert.jpg

toxic rooster

03-21-2005, 07:12 PM

mate that's why you wear briefs, not boxers

packt up

03-21-2005, 07:18 PM

lol wtf

Rob Ban Fan

03-21-2005, 07:25 PM

fucking hell, Igor Biscan has a fuck off huge cock

Mr. Monday Morning

03-21-2005, 07:37 PM

Carsley looks like he's enjoying himself :naughty: in that second one

toxic rooster

03-21-2005, 07:42 PM

wow, look at his hand in the second one :'(

Y2Ant

03-22-2005, 04:47 AM

LOL

yianni

03-22-2005, 07:46 AM

LMAO

Wengerland

03-22-2005, 09:38 AM

LOL

Mr. Monday Morning

03-22-2005, 10:21 AM

Kevin Phillips' wife has been cheating on him with a mobile phone salesman :rofl:

packt up

03-22-2005, 01:32 PM

Teams Want Seeding (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/4373075.stm)

Pretty shitty idea in my opinion. "Helping big teams to get through" is pretty unfair in my opinion. Teams are complaining that big teams got drawn together but thats because some of these "big teams" couldn't even win their first group stages. Stop fucking around in the group stages and win your group if you want an easier team.

Cactus Sid

03-22-2005, 01:43 PM

I agree

At the end of the day, a club like Manchester United are gonna have to beat one of the big boys if they want to win the competition, it doesn't matter if its in the last 16 or the semi finals, the team that wins the tournament, is the team that was best in the competition.

Ogen

03-22-2005, 03:48 PM

If it happens it'll just further ruin Europe

toxic rooster

03-22-2005, 06:36 PM

They shouldn't even have seeding in the first place

toxic rooster

03-22-2005, 06:37 PM

(as they have it now, anyway)

yianni

03-23-2005, 02:35 AM

Apparently the Asian Football Confederation meeting has given Australia the green light to join their confederation. :eek: :D

toxic rooster

03-23-2005, 02:37 AM

what took them so long? :D

yianni

03-23-2005, 02:54 AM

Who knows

Fucking better be true though

Apparently NZ is STILL whinging about Australia wanting to leave Oceania. I don't get it? Why would they give a shit? Australia leaving means that they are favorites to qualify for the Oceania spot for the Olympics, Youth World Cups etc (where Oceania gets a direct qualifying spot for). Oceania will still retain it's half-qualifying spot for the World Cup, and instead will now play off against the 4th best Asian opponent, so it's making life easier for them yet they're still whinging the dumb cunts! :nono:

Rob Ban Fan

03-23-2005, 02:28 PM

Kevin Phillips' wife has been cheating on him with a mobile phone salesman :rofl:

I bet his big friend Niall Quinn was round, quick as a flash to comfort him.

Wengerland

03-23-2005, 04:54 PM

Transfer deadline tomorrow :love:

Last one for lower league clubs outside the stupid Fifa one :mad:

packt up

03-23-2005, 05:32 PM

Chelsea and Cole charged.

Big woop.

yianni

03-23-2005, 07:05 PM

There's been another transfer window? :|

Ogen

03-23-2005, 07:25 PM

Lower league clubs ignored the new ones and stayed on their old system

Wengerland

03-24-2005, 06:16 AM

Yeah the window's only for the lower league clubs, the one that's used in the top leagues is being enforced on us next season.

Doink

03-25-2005, 01:34 AM

carlo gash sorry nash has joined preston north end on a 3 & 1/2 year contract, last news from boro was he was out with a groin tear, mind you he was crap, hes the only keeper i know who can throw a ball further than he can kick it.

its now time we get some serious copotition in for schwartzer as he has gone too long unclanged. he apparently had a stipulation in last contract that said if he's fit he plays! apparently this was reason its taken so long for him to sign a new one as steve gibson refused to put that in his new contract (go on gibbo you the fuckin man)

mark crossley deserved better from us as he was quality but was shit on once schwartzer was fit. so are there any good keepers out there who could challenge him? i like the look of paddy kenny at shef utd.

have you guys heardof any stipuations in contracts that your team members have? i heard shearer has it in his contract that he has to be the highest earner at newcastle so it they sign someone on higher wages, his auto increases!

Do you know of anymore daft things that go in contracts?

Cactus Sid

03-25-2005, 05:35 AM

I know Sunderland put a "No Going To The Moon" clause in players contracts

toxic rooster

03-25-2005, 08:01 AM

Schwarzer worries me. Come November, we're relying on him to get us to the World Cup :nono:

Doink

03-25-2005, 08:25 AM

Schwarzer worries me. Come November, we're relying on him to get us to the World Cup :nono:

:eek:

toxic rooster

03-25-2005, 08:27 AM

Well, there'll be 10 other Australians on the field helping him out, BUT YOU GET THE PICTURE

Rob

03-25-2005, 12:12 PM

have you guys heardof any stipuations in contracts that your team members have? i heard shearer has it in his contract that he has to be the highest earner at newcastle so it they sign someone on higher wages, his auto increases!

Do you know of anymore daft things that go in contracts?

Stan Collymore had that same stip when he was at Villa.

yianni

03-25-2005, 08:08 PM

Schwarzer worries me. Come November, we're relying on him to get us to the World Cup :nono:
Same here, but not just him the defence in general. At the moment Neil at right back, Moore in the centre and Lazaridis at left back pleases me, however we need someone else to fill in the other centre-back position. Not only that, if any of these three gets injured we have limited back up so that fucking worries me.

This said, I'm liking our starting line-up for the friendly tonight against Iraq:

Mark Schwarzer
Lucas Neill, Tony Popovic, Craig Moore (c), Stan Lazaridis
Marco Bresciano, Josip Skoko, Tim Cahill
Scott Chipperfield, Brett Emerton, John Aloisi

I'm glad Farina is sticking to the 4-3-3 formation so our lads can get used to it and see how well they're used to it when we play in the Confederations Cup. In a way it's good that Viduka and Kewell are injured (Kewell's playing shithouse anyway) so it gives lads like Chipperfield and Aloisi (who is underrated in my opinion) a chance to press for starting selection come the big games. When Kewell and Viduka are fit and firing (hopefully come November) our squad, complimented by the 4-3-3, should look like this:

Schwarzer
Neil, Popovic, Moore, Lazaridis
Cahill, Bresciano, Kewell
Emerton, Viduka, Aloisi

Only problem I have with the lineup for tonight is Bresciano on the right, he does his best work in the centre or on the left but the left SHOULD be Kewell's spot (though Farina the dumb cunt will put him up front).

Btw we're actually playing a proper game in Australia, with a proper squad, and not in London. :eek: :|

Dazz

03-25-2005, 08:12 PM

Duncan Ferguson had the same clause, which gave Everton problems when trying to give Rooney a higher contract.

yianni

03-25-2005, 08:49 PM

Just a random scary AEK Athens cat picture

http://utopia.duth.gr/~sasimis/Midas21r.jpg

:eek:!

toxic rooster

03-25-2005, 11:26 PM

Ahahaha the wog cat wears Kappa :lol:

Also, what's you got against Popovic?

yianni

03-26-2005, 01:12 AM

:D

Nothing against the big fella except he's not playing football consistently.

Doink

03-26-2005, 06:54 AM

In a way it's good that Viduka and Kewell are injured

id get use to playing without Viduka, romour has it he will be retiring at the end of season due to arthritus of the hip. Apparently we are trying to get him fit enough to make two more apperances so that we can claim compensation!

Speaking of injuries, can anyone explain why robben at chelsea can break his foot after boatang breaks his toe and yet is back playing before him. :?:

Danny Electric

03-26-2005, 07:02 AM

Better medical staff at Chelsea.

toxic rooster

03-26-2005, 07:03 AM

Dunno, maybe it's due to severity or some crap, or because no 2 injuries are the same?

Mr. Monday Morning

03-26-2005, 07:44 AM

id get use to playing without Viduka, romour has it he will be retiring at the end of season due to arthritus of the hip. Apparently we are trying to get him fit enough to make two more apperances so that we can claim compensation!

Speaking of injuries, can anyone explain why robben at chelsea can break his foot after boatang breaks his toe and yet is back playing before him. :?:

I don't think he strictly broke it, I think he re-injured his original break from pre-season.

Dazz

03-26-2005, 07:58 AM

Nah apparently it was broken, thats why our old physio left, because Mourinho wanted him rushed back. We have now got this olympic guy who is the man at repairing injuries quickly do he helped sort him out, and AC Milan have some foot speacialist there or something, and as an act of good sportsmanship their guy also treated Robben. The two of those guys combined is why he is back quicker then expected.

Doink

03-26-2005, 08:02 AM

i think its more to do with compitment to the cause and that boro have the worst medical staff in the world. i dont think we have had 1 player injure himself during a game, all our injuries come in training. Who trains us ths SAS?

i feel sorry for malcolm christie, he had to tell the medical staff something stil didnt feel right, they said he was fine, then bang he breaks it again. fucked up medical team if you ask me!

do you have any players you think are hiding behind injuries ?

Dazz

03-26-2005, 08:04 AM

Gallas is permanently injured, the guy is a joke, no doubt he will get injured Vs Southampton next week.

Gudjohnsen apparently has an actual permanent injury but I forget exactly what it is.

Mourinho likes to take players returns very slowly if he can, Carvalho took 2 months to return from a broken toe, but we had ample replacement and didn't let a league goal in in his abscence so we didn't need to rush him.

Rob Ban Fan

03-26-2005, 08:27 AM

Vincent Pericard was out injured with a thigh strain for a year, came back and played for the reserves and did his cruciate knee ligament after about 15 minutes.

Hayden Foxe has been out with a broken foot for over a year.

Toddy injured his cruciate ligament in training the day before the season began, Redknapp rushed him back and he did it again.

Toddy's injury is fair enough, thats just unlucky but how the fuck can you be out for a year with a thigh strain or a broken foot that doesnt seem to get any better :|

Wengerland

03-26-2005, 09:00 AM

Lee Morris, been here for 14 months now and in that time he's made 1 start and 3 sub apperances i think. He was said to be close to a return this week but nope, his cruciates have gone again.

Nathan Blake has been out for a few months now, he's shit when he plays mind you. Jordan Stewart dislocated his shoulder for the 3rd time in our last game too. I wish Canero was injured, not out of malice or anything, but then Levein would have a valid reason not to pick him, as he looked good last year but now he's playing in the reserves and local cup competitions with the youth team.

Wengerland

03-26-2005, 09:01 AM

Oh yeah, and would Tiatto be in the Australia first team? Also is Kisnorbo anywhere near it? :(

Mr. Monday Morning

03-26-2005, 09:58 AM

lol less than a minute played and Beckham's already wandered into the middle of the pitch once.

Fucking idiot.

Mr. Monday Morning

03-26-2005, 10:03 AM

jesus christ WHO THE FUCK THOUGHT MOTSON AND LE SAUX MAKE A GOOD COMMENTARY TEAM

Danny Electric

03-26-2005, 10:28 AM

Some good saves from the goalie.

Danny Electric

03-26-2005, 10:28 AM

Ashton's goal for the U-21. :)

yianni

03-26-2005, 11:01 AM

Oh yeah, and would Tiatto be in the Australia first team? Also is Kisnorbo anywhere near it? :(
Tiatto is a squad player, he's played in the recent friendly in London against Norway. Kisnorbo I don't believe will feature very much in this campaign but will be blooded for the next campaign for WC 2010. On a side note as Kisnorbo's recovering from an injury, he'll be in Melbourne next week and is special guest at his old club South Melbourne's game on the Sunday. :love: :love:

yianni

03-26-2005, 11:09 AM

Btw it was a shithouse performance tonight but Australia came from 0-1 down (fucking defence caught out trying to play the offside) to win 2-1 against Iraq, with Bresciano scoring from a free kick then Ahmad Elrich coming off the bench and slotting the ball into the bottom corner. Like I was saying earlier, defence is FUCKING WORRYING, Schwarzer made some fucking stupid errors again and is really fucking worrying me. If we play anything like that against the South Americans in South America...forget it we're going to cop 5 or 6 :nono:

On a side note, Greece are on away to Georgia in an hour and a half. Fucken better win or I'm going to crack the fucking shits cos I'm staying up for it (kick off is 3:30am Melbourne time).

On another side note, fucking hell I'm watching England's game at the moment, I go to take a slash and come back and it's gone from 1-0 to 3-0 :|

yianni

03-26-2005, 11:26 AM

Sodding hell 4-0 now and Lampard just hit the post. England's running riot and should be about 10-0 up :lol:

Mr. Monday Morning

03-26-2005, 11:26 AM

4-0

Should be 5, Lampard cracked it against the bar from 10 yards :'(

yianni

03-26-2005, 11:33 AM

Beat you to it :p

yianni

03-26-2005, 11:34 AM

Owen hits it over the bar again...shoulda been 5-0 then

England is just crusing...:|

toxic rooster

03-26-2005, 11:34 AM

Norn Iron were going well until they conceded FOUR GOALS

yianni

03-26-2005, 11:50 AM

Full-time 4-0 to England

45 minutes til Georgia-Greece...come on Hellas score a fucking goaaaaaaaaaaal

Dazz

03-26-2005, 12:19 PM

Played Chelsea.

Wengerland

03-26-2005, 12:23 PM

Top performance, Joe Cole was great, though i can't fault anyone really.

Wales lost 2-0 at home to Austria, heading out.

Danny Electric

03-26-2005, 12:24 PM

Well done Joey Cole.

Dazz

03-26-2005, 12:28 PM

Joey Cole was outstanding.

Cactus Sid

03-26-2005, 12:48 PM

Ashton's goal for the U-21. :)

Don't mention the under 21's, not after Carson fucked up.

England were good and Cole was amazing, half watched it at the pub while putting all my money in the machines :|

On the whole injury thing, it does seem that the big clubs can get players back quicker. While they aren't back yet, Xabi and Cisse are both back in training. Alonso broke his ankle in January, and he could be back by the Juve game, so 3 months aint bad. Cisse had a double compound fracture and he's back training 5 months later, so I guess that the bigger clubs have better medical staff and better links with medical people around the world.

Also...good luck to the Irish, I reckon this'll be a cracking game.

yianni

03-26-2005, 12:53 PM

FUCKING HELL GEORGIA 1 GREECE 0 :mad: :mad: :rant:

24' in.

Mr. Monday Morning

03-26-2005, 12:54 PM

Beat you to it :p

:foc:

LOL anyone watch the buildup to the Ireland game? The commentators are in the stadium, went silent for the Irish anthem, then talked about the team lineups over the Israeli anthem :|

Steve Claridge is still the worst colour commentator alive, sorry RBF/Wengerland

Mr. Monday Morning

03-26-2005, 12:57 PM

dafgsdgfds 1-0 to the Irish after 4'

Clinton 'to be sure' Morrison

Mr. Monday Morning

03-26-2005, 12:57 PM

Ogen's probably drunk

Cactus Sid

03-26-2005, 12:58 PM

:foc:

LOL anyone watch the buildup to the Ireland game? The commentators are in the stadium, went silent for the Irish anthem, then talked about the team lineups over the Israeli anthem :|

Steve Claridge is still the worst colour commentator alive, sorry RBF/Wengerland

Claridge makes me laugh in a bad way. He's already tried twice to make the other guy sound stupid.

Danny Electric

03-26-2005, 01:19 PM

Yeah Carson :(

yianni

03-26-2005, 01:28 PM

2 GOALS IN 2 MINUTES BY KAPSIS AND VRYZAS GIVE HELLAS A 1-2 HALF TIME LEAD

YES FUCKING YES

yianni

03-26-2005, 01:32 PM

Other progress scores:

Turkey (boooooo) 2-0 Albania (34 mins gone)

Romania 0-1 Holland (34 gone)

Israel 0-1 Ireland (44 gone)

Poland 6-0 Azerbaijan (77 gone)

Croatia 2-0 Iceland (77 gone)

packt up

03-26-2005, 01:45 PM

yianni

03-26-2005, 01:46 PM

GOAAAAAAALLLLLLL

GIANNAKOPOULOS MAKES IT 1-3

WOOOOOOOOOOO

Cactus Sid

03-26-2005, 01:53 PM

Poland 8 - 0
Azerbaijan R
T Frankowski 12
A Hadzhiev o.g. 16
K Kosowski 40
T Frankowski 62
T Frankowski 66
J Krzynowek 72
M Saganowski 85
M Saganowski 89

Fucking hell

Czech Republic won :D

packt up

03-26-2005, 01:54 PM

Azerbaijan :(.

yianni

03-26-2005, 01:57 PM

Fulltime - Group 8

Bulgaria 0-3 Sweden

Croatia 3-0 Iceland

yianni

03-26-2005, 01:58 PM

20 more minutes for Greece to hold on for a VERY important away win.

yianni

03-26-2005, 02:20 PM

OLEEEEEEEEEEEE

FULLTIME 1-3 WIN TO GREECE

This takes us to 11 points still 3 points behind leaders Ukraine with both countries having played 6 games each

If tonight's other progress results stay the same Turkey and Denmark will both win and go to 9 points each, 2 behind Hellas...so a very tight group, making the Albanian game on Wednesday just as important as tonight's game

Mr. Monday Morning

03-26-2005, 02:46 PM

Equaliser for Israel on 89'

O'Brien jumped out of the way, the tit.

Wengerland

03-26-2005, 03:20 PM

Damn. Still, not a bad point for Ireland by any stretch, just gutting to concede in the last minute after Israel didn't offer much.

Rob

03-26-2005, 04:46 PM

Got beat 2-0 by Italy but a way better performance than I have seen in a while (only win against Holland and draw against Spain compare in the Vogts era). Played well, better organisation and unlucky to lose to a wicked second Pirlo free kick. First one was shite though and Rab Douglas should be dropped indefinately now.

Mr. Monday Morning

03-26-2005, 04:49 PM

Miller :(

Rob

03-26-2005, 05:01 PM

Yeah he should have scored when he had the one on one (I was screaming for the lob). He usually was out numbered 3 to 1 on long balls so not really his fault. He didn't do too bad. Never had much other options though.

Rob Ban Fan

03-26-2005, 05:19 PM

apparently last night Gary O'Neil got knocked unconcious in the last minute and had to be stretchered off after he clashed heads with that cunt Milner :'(

GARIO :'(

Ogen

03-26-2005, 05:55 PM

Damn. Still, not a bad point for Ireland by any stretch, just gutting to concede in the last minute after Israel didn't offer much.

Not a good point at all really we're supposed to battle it out with France and the Swiss for the spots teams like Isreal should be on the lower tier and be 6 points for the 3 of us. Isreal were fucking wank anyway we just didn't go for the kill. Good goal by them but they did nothing all match.

Doink

03-26-2005, 06:06 PM

england 2 - asurba fogin team nil thats my predict 4 next game, was it jus me or did it seem weird seeing away team sing home teams national antham??

i dont think joe cole played that good tonight, he scored one an made one apart from that his other 88 mins wernt tha good, id say average IMO. gerrad, i didnt even know he was playing until he got took off!

next game i say drop beckham, put joe cole on natural right side & give downing a chance on left, what have they got to lose?

credit to rooney 4 stayin on his feet 4 third goao!

i went for piss jus after half time, england hit post then scored in that time the twats!!

austrilia are like boro, schawzer has no challangers so if he fucks up has noone to replace him.
i so love boro to resign mark crossley as he is worthy of a startin place defo over knob we have in goal & would say deserves a run for fulham!

Danny Electric

03-26-2005, 06:14 PM

Doink, are you sure you watched the game. Did you see the way Joey Cole held up the ball, the balls he played, the balls he played. I swear you were watching a different game.
I agree with dropping Beckham for the next game, Sven said that his back was playing up again. So U'm not sure if he'lll start.

My fav chant of the game '"Are you Scotland in disguise" :lol:

Mr. Monday Morning

03-26-2005, 07:59 PM

Not a good point at all really we're supposed to battle it out with France and the Swiss for the spots teams like Isreal should be on the lower tier and be 6 points for the 3 of us. Isreal were fucking wank anyway we just didn't go for the kill. Good goal by them but they did nothing all match.

France drew 0-0 though so you didn't concede ground, and considering they, Israel and the Swiss all have to play you at home I'd say you're favourites to qualify right now.

Ogen

03-26-2005, 08:46 PM

We're in a good position but it could have been better Isreal are weak you need 6 points off them teams.

Dazz

03-26-2005, 10:58 PM

Good going Cole et al today pretty competent performance from all involved - Cole being the best.

Lets just not go proclaiming Cole as the answer to the left hand problem until he plays against some higher class opposition though. I can see the press jumping all over him when all he did in essence was to get the better of a right back who hasn't played a game for Soton this season.

Come on Mr Up, you need to recognise the talent of Joey Cole. He is both footed, and the way he can cut inside when near the edge of the area and do some damage is great, think about his part in Lampard's goal for Chelsea Vs Barcelona, now think of Cole doing that on his stronger footed. I cannot wait.

toxic rooster

03-26-2005, 11:56 PM

Fucking hell, Doink's right about Schwarzer too :'(.

Stupid Bosnich :mad:

yianni

03-27-2005, 02:23 AM

Schwarzer = MASSIVE FUCKING WORRY :-\

yianni

03-27-2005, 03:35 AM

I forgot to mention, LMMFAO when one of the Iraq subs came on with his name on the back of his shirt "ALI. G". The entire pub just exploded with the "A-LI G! A-LI G! A-LI G!" chant for a few minutes :rofl:

Doink

03-27-2005, 03:53 AM

i stand by what i said about joe cole. IMO while wright-phillips is out id try him on the right!

i wont say he hasnt got talent coz he has & he is starting to cut out the show boating which is improving his whole game

Rob

03-27-2005, 06:04 AM

packt up

03-27-2005, 06:37 AM

Come on Mr Up, you need to recognise the talent of Joey Cole. He is both footed, and the way he can cut inside when near the edge of the area and do some damage is great, think about his part in Lampard's goal for Chelsea Vs Barcelona, now think of Cole doing that on his stronger footed. I cannot wait.

Hey I said he was man of match :roll:

But to me he did nothing that I wouldn't really expect of him now - he's been great for you this season. Dominating Chris Baird when Northern Island have nothing going the other way (and he had Ashley Cole behind him anyway) is nothing to shout from the rooftops about. Its akin to people jizzing over Keiron Dyer on his international debut when we beat Leichenstein 6-0. Dyer played well but it was against some farmer or something. Yeah Cole did well but is he gonna do well against the likes of Cafu, Thuram and all the better right backs in the world? I'm not convinced YET.

Doink

03-27-2005, 07:19 AM

I swear I just do not understand why so many English people want rid of David Beckham. Okay he didn't have good Euro 2004 but neither did a few others. Shawn Wright-Phillips is a good player but he ain't in Beckham's league.

IMO he isnt as good as he was & i think this is because he wants to play more central so is neglecting the right hand side a bit. not in a way where hes not doing his job but i remember when he was playing for man u hed be out on the wing sending in inch perfect crosses for the forwards to get onto. he doesnt seem to do that as much now.

Im not saying wright-phillips is going to do that either but i think on current form he deserves a go when hes fit again.

i remember a few years back when beckham fell out with fergie & was put on the bench for i think a champions league game. Man u were losing & he put beckham on and he responded to being dropped by going out to prove a point that he is stil worthy of a game by scoring 2 and making a third.

to show him hes not the only option we've got may make him raise his game that bit more!

The Mackem

03-27-2005, 07:38 AM

Joe Cole both footed? He seemed to be favouring his right to me. He had a good game, Kieron Dyer looked lively as well. I'd consider playing him for at least a half on Wednesday.

Dazz

03-27-2005, 07:46 AM

Hey I said he was man of match :roll:

But to me he did nothing that I wouldn't really expect of him now - he's been great for you this season. Dominating Chris Baird when Northern Island have nothing going the other way (and he had Ashley Cole behind him anyway) is nothing to shout from the rooftops about. Its akin to people jizzing over Keiron Dyer on his international debut when we beat Leichenstein 6-0. Dyer played well but it was against some farmer or something. Yeah Cole did well but is he gonna do well against the likes of Cafu, Thuram and all the better right backs in the world? I'm not convinced YET.

Alright you explained it better there, I do agree with you, he was always going to look the goods Vs Barcelona as he was up against peices of shit like Van Bronckhort and then Sylvinho :rofl:, but yeah he does need prove himself against other teams, and he hopefully will do some this season :cool:

And Mackem, goals like Portmouth away and Barcelona at home show his talent with his left foot, he does skill with both feet too.

packt up

03-27-2005, 08:57 AM

Here's hoping hes the goods though at this level though Dazz :y: Definitely the front runner for the left wing position.

And although I do think Cole favours his right as Mackem said I would also say he's way more able with his left foot than most right footed players and really can produce the goods with it on occasion as Dazz said.

WOOOOOOOO FOR SITTING ON THE FENCE :cool:

Mr. Monday Morning

03-27-2005, 12:10 PM

I swear I just do not understand why so many English people want rid of David Beckham. Okay he didn't have good Euro 2004 but neither did a few others. Shawn Wright-Phillips is a good player but he ain't in Beckham's league.

Beckham's been in decline as a player since that free kick against Greece. And that's about the last worthwhile thing he did for England.

He needs to be given a kick up the ass and shown that *nobody* is an automatic pick, maybe then he'll wake up and play as he used to.

Rob

03-27-2005, 12:20 PM

He is still miles better than SWP.

Mr. Monday Morning

03-27-2005, 01:01 PM

But he's not playing like it

Wengerland

03-27-2005, 01:14 PM

He's not miles better anyway, the only attribute he has over SWP is passing anyway, and Lampard and Gerrard aren't exactly bad at that.

Beckham's no longer a natural winger so have him compete for a place in the centre. In the short time Dyer was on you could see the benefit of having a winger running on the outside through him setting up Lampard and Owen, both of whom should have scored really.

Dazz

03-27-2005, 01:19 PM

What do you mean no longer, he never was. He was always an overrated peice of shit who could only cross a ball, do good long balls, and take the occasional (and i do mean occasional) good free kick.

Rob

03-27-2005, 01:28 PM

What do you mean no longer, he never was. He was always an overrated peice of shit who could only cross a ball, do good long balls, and take the occasional (and i do mean occasional) good free kick.

Yeah okay whatever.

Dazz

03-27-2005, 01:59 PM

packt up

03-27-2005, 02:12 PM

I would say Beckham's easily third best Engand midfielder now. I'd probably pick him over SWP still though. But yeah his performances have been ranging from poor to average for England for a long time now.

Rob

03-27-2005, 03:06 PM

Great comeback Robert, you showed me. I always said it when he was with ManYoo and I haven't changed, for a right midfielder he is very poor, he cannot take players on and his lifestyle seems to make people like him more.

Maybe I wasn't trying a comeback. Try and grasp there are some people in the world who don't give a fuck about your opinion. Here's one. I don't even mean it to sound bad. I really don't. It got to the point ages ago where I could seriously care less what you have to say about football. I don't make anything personal. I'd still shake your hand or drink beer with you or something but if I had to listen to you talk about football, I'd turn and watch paint dry or something.

Dazz

03-27-2005, 03:17 PM

Wow, that is how I feel about you too in fact, :$. We are like brothers. Except you have to realise your views on Kirsty Gallagher are all Pete Tong.

SammyG

03-27-2005, 03:42 PM

Fuck.. usa lost to mexico 2-1 in a world cup qualifier.. anyway, im not as sad becuase Greece beat the dirty Georgians 3-1, etsi gamaei i ellada, etsi yianni? :D :D

packt up

03-27-2005, 05:00 PM

Dazz and Rob get a room - can cut the sexual tension with a knife.

Dazz

03-27-2005, 05:46 PM

Only if he pays for it.

Doink

03-27-2005, 06:57 PM

. In the short time Dyer was on you could see the benefit of having a winger running on the outside .

:wtf: is this the same dyer who got sir boby robson the sack when he refused to play wide right as he wants to play more central?

do you think he could do the same and get rid of sven for us?

id just like to see us play with natural wingers rather than playing someone out of position just to fit them in. btw on current form although i think hes a good player, downing doesnt deserve a run. he has played pants for weeks now, and before he got injured young james morrison was making downing look average.

:lol: id some to see big sam allerdyce given a go as england boss, i can see it now, no disprespect to bolton, but england just having a team full of big strong players who will fight and kick their way to a result. no star names, just a team who want to win at all costs, itd be class!

Wengerland

03-27-2005, 07:16 PM

If Dyer refused to play on the right for England he wouldn't be picked, but he wouldn't do that anyway, i'm certain of that.

I'm pretty sure he's been playing wide right for Newcastle recently anyway, whenever Kluivert or Ameobi have been alongside Shearer, he's played there.

People are way too harsh on Sven, it's partly down to him being foreign and no English manager is in the same league as him anyway.

packt up

03-27-2005, 08:18 PM

Sven is the man there's no English manager close.

Dyer has been playing welll for Newcastle recently. Think he deserves a half or so on wednesday as Mackem said. Not convinced he can cut it at the highest level either though. I'd rate SWP over him.

El Capitano Gatisto

03-27-2005, 09:56 PM

People are way too harsh on Sven, it's partly down to him being foreign and no English manager is in the same league as him anyway.
ahahahaha no?

Give big Sam Allardyce so much money to spend that it almost ruins a team, and he could win Serie A too.

Sven gets criticised because he is negative and fairly poor tactically. Time and time again he shows he has one game plan, and can do nothing more if it fails. England have a side good enough to win the World Cup. They certainly had a side good enough to win Euro 2004.

They didn't, mainly because of the tactical negativity. Negativity is a curse, as we Irish found out to our cost last night also.

yianni

03-28-2005, 02:52 AM

Fuck.. usa lost to mexico 2-1 in a world cup qualifier.. anyway, im not as sad becuase Greece beat the dirty Georgians 3-1, etsi gamaei i ellada, etsi yianni? :D :D
Exactly :D

And on Wednesday night tha gamisoume oi Alvanoi malakes mesa stin Athina :yes:

Doink

03-28-2005, 05:23 AM

ahahahaha no?

Give big Sam Allardyce so much money to spend that it almost ruins a team, and he could win Serie A too.

Sven gets criticised because he is negative and fairly poor tactically. Time and time again he shows he has one game plan, and can do nothing more if it fails. England have a side good enough to win the World Cup. They certainly had a side good enough to win Euro 2004.

They didn't, mainly because of the tactical negativity. Negativity is a curse, as we Irish found out to our cost last night also.

i agree! Sven is an idiot!

why campagian to get the cup final moved so that his players can be rested and fuck up an english tradition, then go and arrange some meaningless friendlies at the end of the season wheres the sence in that?

i know the friendlies are this season but its the principle of the fact he wants his players to have a good rest at end of seasons so they are refreshed but then makes them travel half he world! idiot.

dyer has been plating on the right btw but think is more due to souness telling him and dyer seeing what happened with bellamy

The Mask

03-28-2005, 06:27 AM

You'd want Beckham on the right. I think the reason he's been toss for England is because he's been playing in the centre at madrid. He's not a central midfielder and never was. Probably why he's been so useless at madrid too. Just because he can't take people on doesn't make him shit. When you can cross like him (or how he used to), you don't really need to. Watching him playing straight to a players feet from the halfway line was immense. I wish we'd have kept him and had Ronaldo on the left instead. We're missing his creativity somewhat savagely.

Wengerland

03-28-2005, 08:10 AM

ahahahaha no?

Give big Sam Allardyce so much money to spend that it almost ruins a team, and he could win Serie A too.

Sven gets criticised because he is negative and fairly poor tactically. Time and time again he shows he has one game plan, and can do nothing more if it fails. England have a side good enough to win the World Cup. They certainly had a side good enough to win Euro 2004.

They didn't, mainly because of the tactical negativity. Negativity is a curse, as we Irish found out to our cost last night also.

Sven is the best manager we've had since Sir Bobby, give him until the world cup at least, if we don't get past the quarter's then he can go as there's been no progress made. The tournaments we've had under him we've been knocked out by the winners in Brazil, and the runners up in Portugal.

Allardyce hasn't won anything yet, and Bolton play shit football despite having some good midfielders. No guaranteeing he'd play the same if managing England of course but i definetly wouldn't want to see it. Personally i'd sooner have Alan Curbishley if i had to choose an English manager.

As for tactically, Bolton don't exactly have anything other than hoofing it up to Davies. I agree in Euro 2004 England were too negative after taking leads though.

The Mask

03-28-2005, 10:09 AM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/4387713.stm

ahaha

deathtrap

03-28-2005, 10:32 AM

It's not about ability.

Can you, as a manager who is under so much pressure, drop your captain, for a inexperienced, player at a mid table team?

There'd be so much backlash.

The Mask

03-28-2005, 10:48 AM

would there fuck. nobody respects beckham as a captain anyway, he's toss at it.

packt up

03-28-2005, 10:49 AM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/4387713.stm

ahaha

lol look at his face.

Cheer up mr grumpy guts.

deathtrap

03-28-2005, 10:51 AM

would there fuck. nobody respects beckham as a captain anyway, he's toss at it.
I bet Victoria would have a word, only for Sven to think he's pulled again:'(

deathtrap

03-28-2005, 10:52 AM

Wasn't Aragone's defense something about Reyes being a gypsy

packt up

03-28-2005, 11:16 AM

Yeah he was motivating the gypsy to beat the black bastard :y:

El Capitano Gatisto

03-28-2005, 11:35 AM

Sven is the best manager we've had since Sir Bobby, give him until the world cup at least, if we don't get past the quarter's then he can go as there's been no progress made. The tournaments we've had under him we've been knocked out by the winners in Brazil, and the runners up in Portugal.

Allardyce hasn't won anything yet, and Bolton play shit football despite having some good midfielders. No guaranteeing he'd play the same if managing England of course but i definetly wouldn't want to see it. Personally i'd sooner have Alan Curbishley if i had to choose an English manager.

As for tactically, Bolton don't exactly have anything other than hoofing it up to Davies. I agree in Euro 2004 England were too negative after taking leads though.
It should be the nature of how you get knocked out that Sven is judged on, not who by.

Against Brazil, England had no ideas against a side reduced to ten men, and sat back inviting pressure. Against Portugal, England had no ideas when Rooney went off, and sat back inviting pressure,

Allardyce is not likely to win anything at Bolton because of how the Premiership is set up, however the way he has brought them from a yo-yo side to one competing for Europe, on a shoestring budget, signing talented players other clubs do not want, playing to their strengths, is better than Sven buying a Serie A or winning the Portuguese league with Benfica.

It's not good enough to say "we'll wait and see how we do at the World Cup" really, if Sven isn't going to change. If the same thing happens again, then you have another generation of England players who will not fufill their potential at a major competition.

Dazz

03-28-2005, 01:17 PM

Yeah I have always thought Redknapp, Allerdyce or McClaren could do a job.

Mr. Monday Morning

03-28-2005, 01:23 PM

If you're gonna go English I'd suggest Curbishley

Rob Ban Fan

03-28-2005, 02:07 PM

yeah, id say McLaren or Curbishly.

The whole thing about Fat Sam building Bolton on a shoestring budget is a bit of a myth too considering the wages he had to pay people like Okocha and Djokaeff. The high wages were offset by the low transfer fees.

Redknapp would be a terrible manager because his strength is in the transfer market. He did very little on the coaching and tactics side of things while here, mainly playing 8v8 games in training and claiming "good players don't need to be told what to do"

packt up

03-28-2005, 03:10 PM

Yeah I'd never go for Redknapp.

IF we had to go for an English manager I'd go for Mclaren. But I wouldn't really want him now to be honest.

Dazz

03-28-2005, 04:42 PM

Forgot about Curbishley, but I would still take the other three ahead of him.

Rob

03-28-2005, 05:45 PM

Wow, that is how I feel about you too in fact, :$. We are like brothers. Except you have to realise your views on Kirsty Gallagher are all Pete Tong.

:lol:

I just have a think about going for birds that the likes of Rio Ferdinand and Stan Collymore have banged. I wouldn't touch Jordan either. Any bird Dwight Yorke shagged makes me physically ill to look at.

But that's another story.

Rob

03-28-2005, 05:46 PM

To be honest, I'd be pretty surprised if the next England manager (or at least the 1st in line) wasn't Steve McClaren.

Dazz

03-28-2005, 05:53 PM

Oh come on Rob, Dwight Yorke is ex United, surely you'd wanna bang a bird he did, even if it was Jordan.

Personally I wouldn't care if Ruud Van Nistelrooy, Phil Neville, Nadia (before her sex change) shagged Kirsty Gallagher before I did, I'd still smash the granny out of her.

Rob

03-28-2005, 06:14 PM

Nope. I'd shag filth. I just don't wanna know before hand they are filth for sure.

packt up

03-28-2005, 07:05 PM

Kirsty Gallagher is fit.

Jordan is a fucking ugly scumbag drugged up talentless piece of shit.

Therein lies the difference

Y2Ant

03-28-2005, 07:20 PM

I :heart: Kirsty Gallacher so much

Dazz

03-28-2005, 07:44 PM

We all do, except Robert apparently.

deathtrap

03-29-2005, 03:59 AM

Kirsty Gallacher has got a awful nose though :$

deathtrap

03-29-2005, 04:04 AM

The thing about Allardyce is how he managed to entice those players. Bolton were at the time, relegation favourites, and to bring in these sort of players must have taken some negotiations. I don't know what the wages he offered were, so if they were huge I may be wrong.

But, when you can reject players like Jardel and Javi Moreno, who were, and maybe still are, quality players, then you must be doing something right.

And while they may not play particularly good football, it works. They've sneaked up to 6th, and if I was a manager, I couldn't care if my methods didn't cater for the public, if they worked.

However, England is totally different. Rather than a few thousand, the entire country is rooting for you. You can't bring in whoever you like, and there is huge pressure. I could see Allardyce becoming the next Mike Bassett.

Rob Ban Fan

03-29-2005, 05:58 AM

Jardel was in his mid 30's and obese and decided he wanted to go back to Brazil.

I was at the match when he made his debut, he came on and me and my mate were like "oh shit" until we realised he was about 3 stone overweight. Needless to say we then scored 4 goals and won and went top of the Premiership.

deathtrap

03-29-2005, 06:04 AM

I thought Jardel was around 29. He was a big feller....around Jan Molby's weight.
Must've been a while back too if you were top of the Prem:D

Mr. Monday Morning

03-29-2005, 06:19 AM

We all do, except Robert apparently.

Nah she is a bit of a bint init

Rob

03-29-2005, 10:47 AM

yianni

03-29-2005, 10:59 AM

http://www5.sbs.com.au/home/index.php3?id=56109 (http://www5.sbs.com.au/home/index.php3?id=56109)

Greeks appeal for calm

Greece's Euro 2004 stars have appealed for calm and sportsmanlike support from their passionate fans as they prepare to host Albania in a World Cup qualifier in Athens on Wednesday.

Otto Rehaggel's men are in buoyant mood following Saturday's 3-1 win over Georgia in Tbilisi and the supporters are expecting revenge to be exacted on the Albanians following their poor 2-1 reversal to their neighbours in the corresponding fixture last September.

Greece is currently second in Group Two just three points behind leader Ukraine and will be hoping to pick up maximum points once again on home soil to boost its hopes of reaching Germany next year.

The fixture with Albania always stirs up patriotic fervour among both sets of fans with the proximity of the two countries and the fact that many Albanians have moved across the border to live in Greece.

Although there will be no Albanian fans inside the Giorgos Karaiskaki stadium following the AFA's decision to decline their 1,500 ticket allocation to stave off the threat of crowd trouble, a red-hot atmosphere is expected.

Striker Zizis Vryzas, a goalscorer against Georgia at the weekend, led the calls for the game to be played amid passionate but controlled support from the Greek fans.

"I expect a good atmosphere in the stadium without any extreme incidents," he said.

"If we should take up our role then the win will be ours."

Panathinaikos captain Angelos Basinas added: "The game with Albania will be difficult, but if we play as well as we did against Georgia we will take the three points.

"The attitude that has been shown by the fans up to now has been exceptional. We all want for them to warmly support the team on Wednesday and nothing else."

Defender Takis Fissas of Benfica was more cautious with his initial pre-match prediction.

He said: "Just because we won in Tbilisi does not mean that we will acquire the three points against Albania. Our team owes the fans a win, and the players will do their best to give joy to the fans.

"Overall I believe the Greek team will qualify, as we have a very good team and our performance becomes better with each game."

On the playing front, Rehhagel is likely to stick with the side which was so successful in fighting back from a goal down to overpower the Georgians, with Panathinaikos centre-back Giannis Goumas continuing to deputise for injured stopper Trainos Dellas.

Goumas is relishing the match but also called for calm among the fans.

"It is a difficult game and we have to win in order for our win against Georgia not to be for nothing. The fans have to be respectable and to show everyone that we are civilised."

Hans-Peter Briegel's Albania squad arrived in Athens on Monday and the German coach has played down his side's chances of repeating September's shock upset.

"Albania has come to just play football, since we have nothing to lose," he said.

"Any result apart from a defeat will be positive for us. In reference to the game we fear nothing. I cannot use some players because of their injuries and the team will look a little different from the previous games."

Doink

03-29-2005, 12:57 PM

I'd fuck her if she didn't touch the likes of Collymore and Ferdinand (and whatever other nasty footballers she's been with). But she has so I wouldn't. My current missus is better looking anyway. She could do with her tits though. I'm dead if she reads this.

Post a pic of your wife so i can judge :shifty: bty krsty gallagher denies the collymore stories and if she's been bucking Ferdinand then that must give hope to other ugly people!

I wouldnt have Mclaren as England manager, he is a clueless twat who has worse tatics then sven. He has so far managed to get boro to 6th in the league, then saw we had some bad injuries with talented kids coming through.

What would you do:

a: give the kids a run they are quality and deserve a chance
b: sign some sort of back up in transfer window as although the kids are good, they are in experienced.
c: none of above

or

d: none of above, play the kids then drop them under the 'star name' hidden rule, even though the star name isnt fit and is no where near as good as the youngsters therefore causing us to go on a winning streak of erm 1 game since the turn of year and ruining any chance he have of european football next year.

ill give you a clue Mclaren didnt choice A, B or C!

He doesnt know when or how to use subs to either win a game,get a result from a game or kill a game off.

My vote is still big Sam, although not prolific look at the transformation in players like Davies, Diouf, Gardner, Hunt, Nolan. although not world beaters he has taken them from being players nobody wanted to pushing for a top 6 spot.

he seems to have the knack of motivatin players and i think he could get the best out of our players and have them playing as a team who could finally fulfil their potential!

El Capitano Gatisto

03-29-2005, 01:14 PM

McClaren is a fucking crap manager, really. Very negative, spends a lot of money and Boro tend to go tits up every season when his boring arse team is found out for what it is.

Apparently he's a great coach, but great coaches don't make great managers in the English sense.

Also, Martin O'Neill got to the top of English football by playing a very robust game, relying on very big defenders and strikers, and a very physical game. Same at Celtic really. It's the only way for young managers who make their reputation in the English game to really do things now. It'd be pointless trying to play Arsenal or Manchester United at a passing game, they'd get slaughtered.

A good manager plays to his team's strengths. For a long time, Sven thought England's strength was lumping it up to Heskey. He has been blessed with Wayne Rooney, however.

Wengerland

03-29-2005, 02:00 PM

I also wouldn't like McLaren to manage England, although he hasn't spent too much recently it'd be similiar to Bolton, as in the wage bill would be pretty big.

I'd love to see Martin O'Neill manage England but it probably wouldn't appeal to him. Although we had big Emile and big defenders when he was here we did play football, not just hoof it forward.

I reckon Peter Taylor, despite his failings here, would do a decent job for England, as he wouldn't be able to spend money, fuck knows where we could've been if Martin had stuck around and spent the £11m we got for Heskey but i'm certain it wouldn't be outside the premiership, but i'm digressing. Point is, Taylor can't spend money when in charge of England, has done a decent job everywhere else but Leicester (bar the first 6 months, then he sold Lennon) and would be a decent choice in my view.

packt up

03-29-2005, 03:11 PM

All big Sam has done with Diouf is turn him from a talented scumbag spitting diving cockmaster who wasn't playing, into a talented scumbag spitting diving cockmaster who plays and occasionally gets sent off for being a moron.

Mr. Monday Morning

03-29-2005, 04:49 PM

:love:

Nervous Ferret

03-29-2005, 05:11 PM

Anybody catch the USA/Mexico footy game this past weekend?
I didn't. I was watching March Madness like a normal person, however there was aa rerun on at like 3AM on ESPN2, so I watched it, and it was the best footy game I ever watched. Too bad Mexico kicked our butts.

We are the most powerful country in the world!! But we're not going to qualify for the World Cup!

Good job guys :roll:

Nervous Ferret

03-29-2005, 05:12 PM

Do you scousers still do the world cup? Or is that "not cool" Like Olympic baseball to us

Mr. Monday Morning

03-29-2005, 05:25 PM

Ugh, give it up ferret. Just go spam some other thread up, please.

Nervous Ferret

03-29-2005, 05:26 PM

qhat, I actually watched it, and now I want to discuss goddamnitt!

Team Sheep

03-29-2005, 07:57 PM

qhat, I actually watched it, and now I want to discuss goddamnitt!

You've been a right cunt lately.

toxic rooster

03-29-2005, 10:33 PM

Betting Ferret doesn't know what scouser means

Nervous Ferret

03-29-2005, 10:40 PM

discuss the USA/Mexico footy game godammit! And why do we play Mexico every year? :mad: Arent there like 3857-3803-8028-95728 other countries in the world?

deathtrap

03-30-2005, 04:46 AM

No.

Rob Ban Fan

03-30-2005, 06:51 AM

I saw a bit of it. Seemed like that striker (Johnson?) was a bit lost.

Rafael Marquez is the man :cool:

toxic rooster

03-30-2005, 07:19 AM

Betting that's Ferret's credit card number or something

El Capitano Gatisto

03-30-2005, 07:43 AM

I'd love to see Martin O'Neill manage England but it probably wouldn't appeal to him. Although we had big Emile and big defenders when he was here we did play football, not just hoof it forward.

.
Bolton don't just hoof it forward, either. They have some very skillful players in their side.

Wengerland

03-30-2005, 08:14 AM

Bolton don't just hoof it forward, either. They have some very skillful players in their side.

They don't always hoof it forward, no, but they do it more often than not and definetly more than City under O'Neill, maybe not under Adams to be fair. The fact that they've got skillful players makes the way they play even more annoying though.

i'd give him a chance as England boss but i wouldn't want to see the same style of football as he has at Bolton, and i'd rather have Curbishley. I'll wait and see where Bolton finish this season anyway before i consider him to be a really good manager and whatnot.

El Capitano Gatisto

03-30-2005, 08:24 AM

That's bullshit, they don't hoof it forward more than any other side. They get men into the box for set-pieces, but the idea they are a long ball team is a false one. They're certainly physical, but Kevin Davies isn't good enough in the air to play a long ball game.

It's a media stereotype. Try watching the games. Big Sam basically started the trend for 4-5-1 that is doing the rounds, except he is blessed with a very cultured holding player Campo, a brilliant play-maker in Okocha, and some very good wide players. They play with a lot of width and have Nolan getting into the box to support the front man.

Campo sits and patrols in front of the defence, while the full-backs have license to get forward. It's very similar to O'Neill's game at Leicester and Celtic. Big forwards to hold it up, a play-maker, a very defensive holding player, and two dedicated wide men.

Dazz

03-30-2005, 12:18 PM

Surely we are not thinking of the same Campo. He has been fucking aweful since leaving Madrid. One of the worst players in the Premiership.

El Capitano Gatisto

03-30-2005, 12:20 PM

You said Gilberto was one of the worst players in the Premiership too, Dazz. You have a blindspot when it comes to holding midfielders, unless it's Makalele.

Campo does his job very well.

Dazz

03-30-2005, 12:28 PM

Does he fuck, he can't even hold the ball up. He just runs around waving an invisible card to the ref and whines if someone touches him. You just like him for what he did at Madrid, he has been extremely terrible for Bolton, even his tackling is weak.

El Capitano Gatisto

03-30-2005, 12:34 PM

I didn't even see him at Madrid. He never got on. Plus, he was a centre back then. He's better in midfield than at the back.

Like I said, you described Gilberto as terrible. You can't pick out a decent holding midfielder to save your life.

Dazz

03-30-2005, 12:40 PM

ONE MAKA ONE MAKA ONE MAKELELE
ONE MAKA ONE MAKA ONE MAKELELE
ONE MAKA ONE MAKA ONE MAKELELE
CLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUDE MAKELELE

That's one, you cretin.

El Capitano Gatisto

03-30-2005, 12:44 PM

Notice what I said a couple of posts up.

Dazz

03-30-2005, 12:52 PM

Yes, you contradicted yourself, you cretin.

If he played as a proper holding midfielder then Paddy Vieira could do the job well, same with Graveson, , Scotty Parker has potential to be able to, as does Smertin, and if you want a holding midfielder of the future, Anthony Grant for sure, he plays in our youth team but has a fucking great challenge on him. Remember the name, Anthony Grant.

Trouble is not many teams play with what I'd call a proper holding midfield, rumour has it Maka gets a nose bleed if he enters to opponents half.

El Capitano Gatisto

03-30-2005, 12:57 PM

I don't think any of those players have the discipline, really (aside from the lad I've never heard of). It requires a lot of it.

Stevie Gerrard looks half the player he is when he's asked to hold. No positional discipline.

Dazz

03-30-2005, 01:03 PM

Thats whats great about Maka, he doesn't like to attack so he just stays back and chats up our defence. I think the only shot I recall him having is the one that Lemon spilled and Lampard scored the rebound when we beat Arsenal in the Champions League last season. Other then that the way he sticks to just being a holding player is superb.

But yeah I suppose if they had the discipline then their manager would play them there in some circumstances.

El Capitano Gatisto

03-30-2005, 01:05 PM

Well there you go. Campo does that job well. He just sits there in front of his defence, sprays passes about, doesn't think about joining in attacks.

Also, Arsenal and Paddy V both look much better when they have a holding midfielder in there to sit and protect the defence. Emmanuel Petit and Gilberto.

Dazz

03-30-2005, 01:12 PM

What your forgetting is that Petit is a girl, he asked Ranieri to sub him because he had a headache. Come on now, only girls get headaches.

Campo stays in position well, granted, but he doesn't possess any other quality for the position, he seriously isn't a good tackler, he isn't solid, he takes too long on the ball, and that fucking invisible card thing REALLY winds me up.

I think Vieira is too good attacking to play as a holding player, but if they had someone like Gerrard in their team, who can defend and attack well, then Vierira wouldn't have to push up. I reckon Chelsea look to create down the wings about as much as Arsenal just breakthrough the middle, and Vieira does some shit hot accurate passes. Point is, we all known Gilberto is rubbish.