Football Talk 2004/2005 (Soccer)

[Rob]

No they won't do for a few years. They'll always attract decent Championship level players, and eventually they'll sort out their money problems, so give it between 4-5 years and I reckon Leeds will probably be back in the Premiership.

They have over £80 million in debt. They can't afford to bring anyone in and any "decent Championship level players" usually aren't good enough to cut the mustard in the Premiership so if they did come up, they'd be right back down.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Glasgow Rangers have almost £80 million debt too. Any other business and they'd be in big trouble, but football clubs can get away with being run like shit.

Leeds have enough stature and support to get back into the top division eventually. They just have to stabilise. Their youth system is one of the best in the country.

[Oxstar]

Crystal Palace 2 Fulham 0

I was there and it was wicked, Palace have a slim chance of survival:y:

[Mr. Monday Morning]

UEFA Cup Group Draw:

GROUP A
Feyenoord
Schalke
FC Basle
Hearts
Ferencvaros

GROUP B
Parma
Besiktas
Athletic Bilbao
Steaua Bucharest
Standard Liege

GROUP C
Club Brugge
Real Zaragoza
FC Utrecht
FC Dnipro
Austria Vienna

GROUP D
Newcastle
Sporting Lisbon
Sochaux
Panionios
Dinamo Tbilisi

GROUP E
Lazio
Villarreal
Middlesbrough
Partizan Belgrade
Egaleo FC

GROUP F
Rangers
Auxerre
Grazer AK
Amica Wronki
AZ Alkmaar

GROUP G
Stuttgart
Benfica
Dinamo Zagreb
Heerenveen
Beveren

GROUP H
AEK Athens
Lille
Sevilla
Allemannia
FC Zenit

Each team plays 2 home games and 2 away games with 1 day off. How the fixtures are worked out exactly I've no idea.

[Ogen]

WTF what have they done

[Mr. Monday Morning]

The ever-popular Robbie Savage sparked a tunnel bust-up with Graeme Souness on Sunday after telling the Toon boss: "I'm a better player than you ever were."

According to The Sun, Savage and Souness rowed after Newcastle's draw with Birmingham. Supporting the contention of one of Savage's former Leicester team-mates that, "If brains were chocolate he wouldn't have enough to fill a Smartie," the newspaper claims that not only did Savage spark the clash with the Premiership’s toughest manager but also claimed that he was a better player than Souness ever was.

Yes, because Souness never won anything as a player, whereas the honours-laden Savage has won, erm,…

Savage apparently turned on Souness as he marched past the Newcastle bench at St Andrew’s, shouting that Newcastle were "s**t" and that the Scot was "only fifth-choice for the Newcastle job."

"Yeah, and you’re a really great player, aren't you?" responded the irate Souness.

"I'm a better player than you were," Savage then claimed.

Souness then followed Savage into the Brum dressing room to politely enquire: "Which clubs have you played for?"

Following Savage’s failure to answer, Souness continued: "Remind me what you’ve won - because I can't remember anything."

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Have it you twat Savage

[Ogen]

“I’m feeling all angry about these modern day footballers, I know why they have gone all soft - It’s because of poncy names. That’s what it is.

Remember in the old days, when footy players kicked a f*cking ball made out of ten pound of clay stitched inside a steel-reinforced leather shell with laces made out of piano wire? Well, in them days players could only survive the rigours of the game because they were called things like Albert, Arthur, Bert, Harry, Bill, Eddie, Bob, Jack and Tommy. F*cking tough names for tough men, them was. And what do we have now? Jason, Wayne, Dean, Ryan, Jamie, Robbie. F*cking tarts’ names, they are. Great big f*cking puffs. No wonder the ball’s like a f*cking balloon and shin pads is like slices of bread. In the old days you never saw a Len Shackleton or a Billy Wright with a puffy little Sondico piece of paper down his little thin socks. F*cking shinpads in them days was made out of library books, and socks was like sackcloth.

Same with the jerseys. F*cking shirts with holes in now so they can breathe. Yes, so that little Jody’s airless chest can breathe and he doesn’t get a chill. F*ck off. Stanley Matthews used to dribble round Europe’s finest wearing a f*cking tent and shorts cobbled together from the jacket of his de-mob suit. Aye, he f*cking did. No wonder players fall over all the time whenever an opponent comes anywhere near them.

And they never used to show their arses at one another either. Can you imagine what might have happened if Don Revie had flashed his ring at Nat Lofthouse during a City-Bolton Wanderers game? He’d have got one of them size 10 hobnail f*ckers up his b*stard chuff.

F*cking therapy for stress my arse! Stan Collymore slaps his missus about and he takes three seasons off with stress counselling. What the f*ck is that all about? In the old days it was expected for footballers to belt the old sow about a bit, specially after a bad defeat. And the women used to expect it, and so they should have. They was lucky to be married to footballers.

Ha! Trevor Morley got a kitchen knife in his back off his wife and was out of action for three month. Soft tw*t. Archie McSh*tt of Port Vale got run over with horse and cart one Friday night and he still turned out against Bradford the following day. And he scored two goals. That’s cos his name wasn’t “Trevor”. Good old Archie. Broke his hip, both his legs, murdered his wife and buried her under the patio and still made the England team for the Home Internationals. Did he have any “stress counselling”? Did he b*llocks!

And drugs? There was none of that in the old days. Oh, no. In them days it was a quick shot of morphine before kick-off and you was lucky if you got that. By half-time it had all but wore off so they pumped you full of laudanum. None of this cocaine sniffing and shooting up class narcotics.

Goal celebrations? Don’t talk to me about goal celebrations. Crawling on the floor and thrusting their hips at the crowd. Huh! I’d like to have seen Cliff Bastin do that after a run down the left flank and crossing for Alex James to fire home a winner. Handshakes...and that was all you got. That and a w*nk in the showers afterwards. But it was a proper w*nk...all man stuff. None of these puffy w*nks between blokes that you get nowadays with players like Greame Le Saux and Stephen Gerrard. Allegedly. In them days, there was nowt wrong with it cos it didn’t mean nowt. They used to say there was a “gay atmosphere” in the dressing room after the match. But it didn’t mean owt mucky. Just a bit of harmless spanking the plank among healthy young sportsmen. Aye. I know. Me dad told me.

Sixty grand a f*cking week! Ha! I wouldn’t pay ‘em tuppence. Two bob Tommy Lawton used to get...a month! And Tom Finney still worked as a plumber four days a week when he was playing for England. It’s true, you know. F*cking is. Players had to work them days just to make up their money. Not like today. Stan Pearson had to clean sewers and doubled up as Old Trafford sh#thouse cleaner. He had to go off during one game because some c*nt had built a log cabin and blocked the U-bend. And that Eddie Hapgood was a male model...though he never liked to talk about it.

So I say we start calling kids real male names again. If you’re having a kid, don’t even consider puffy names and sh*te names like what people call their kids these days. Otherwise what we gonna get in twenty years’ time? The England team full of players called Keanu, Ronan, Ashley and f*cking Chesney. F*ck that! Call your kids Alf, Herbert, Len, Frank, Fred and Wilf. And let’s get the puffs out of the game once and for all.

[Rob]

Glasgow Rangers have almost £80 million debt too. Any other business and they'd be in big trouble, but football clubs can get away with being run like shit.

Leeds have enough stature and support to get back into the top division eventually. They just have to stabilise. Their youth system is one of the best in the country.

Eventually being the key word. I wouldn't bank on them hanging around if they got back either.

As for Rangers, they are miles bigger than Leeds are. They'll fill 50,000 seats olaying in a sub par league and they are in Europe every year. They'll clean out most of that debt within 3 years.


And what the hell was Savage doing comparing himself to Souness. Talk about a shite comparing itself to ice cream. Retard.

[Cruiserweight 3:16]

They have over £80 million in debt. They can't afford to bring anyone in and any "decent Championship level players" usually aren't good enough to cut the mustard in the Premiership so if they did come up, they'd be right back down.

They're not £80 million in debt - you do realise Leeds Utd did go into administration last season for a few hours and thus had over £40 million worth of debt wiped off. They're debt is probably more severe than the other Championship sides, but they've still got just enough to keep the club going and invest in the youth team.

[Rob]

Do you know what administration is? You don't just go into it and have half your debt wiped. If you did, everyone would be doing it.

[Cruiserweight 3:16]

Do you know what administration is? You don't just go into it and have half your debt wiped. If you did, everyone would be doing it.

I know that, but they reached a deal with the creditors where they allowed the takeover to occur providing that they met certain requirements, and the creditors would rather have a takeover occur and some of the debt paid back rather than no takeover and no money being paid back. As a result of the takeover, under £40 million would be owed to the remaining creditors. Going into administration was a procedure they needed to follow in order to justify and reach that agreement.

[Oxstar]

Give me some predictions for the England Vs Wales game, i think it will be England 2 Wales 0, Rooney and Defoe to get a goal each.

[Ogen]

England 3 - Wales 1

More importantly in Paris it shall be France 1 - Ireland 1

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Woodgate limped out of a training session yesterday :o

[Shawshank]

Woodgate limped out of a training session yesterday :o

i dont mean to but i cant help it so :lol:

[Rob]

England 1-1 Wales

[Cruiserweight 3:16]

England 2 - 0 Wales at the moment

[Mr. Monday Morning]

WOW our strikers are selfish bastards

Also get the captaincy off Beckham, dozy prat can't even stay where he's supposed to *and* acts like a nob when anyone dares tackle him. I'm glad he's suspended cause it gives someone else a chance.

[Wengerland]

Good result, wasn't the best performance though.

Wright-Phillips had better start ahead of Hargreaves on wednesday.

[Danny Electric]

I would love to see Wright-Phillips start.
One thing that pisses me off is how much everyone was up Rooney's arse. No way was he the man of the match, he needed to pass the ball more and gave away the ball too many times. I know he's only 18 and that over time he will learn alot more but I think he gave a pretty porr performance today.
I couldn't stop laughing at Owen trying to claim that goal, but he's a foward and he should want to claim it. I was pleased with his performance.
Beckham's goal was outstanding but he acted like a dick to get booked. I'm guessing that we will be told that he would have missed the next game anyway through injury. Just to dampen the suspension.
For Wales apart from one mistake, Danny Gabiadon(?) was outstanding along with Paul Jones. If it wasn't for them two then they would have been alot more goals. John Hartson was terrible and I Giggs was trying to hard, I feel sorry for him.
I also feel sorry for John Terry.

[Wengerland]

France 0-0 Ireland

BRILLIANT. O'Shea perhaps should've won it and there should have been a penalty with Barthez being sent off but i'll take a point :cool:

[Ferocious]

The Boro possibly trying again to sign Owen Hargreaves in the January transfer window.

After his performance for Wales today I wouldn't mind seeing Danny Gabbidon at the Riverside either.

Trendous performance from Ireland.
Scotland very poor
England overall looked solid but overused Rooney
Wales I believe played the wrong formation.

[BCWWF]

Beckham broke his rib, whats up with that?

Also, the MLS is expanding...The new team: Real Salt Lake City

[yianni]

Fuck Beckham's goal was unreal against Wales. Greece with another draw. :mad: Though it is pleasing to come away from the Ukraine with a score draw after being behind. The next game is at home to Kazakhstan on November 17. It is IMPERATIVE that we get a result from that in order to get back on track. :-\

[Ogen]

0-0 will do nicely and if the French play like that at Lansdowne we'll rape them.

[The Mackem]

Is there a fake Salt Lake City?

[Wengerland]

Micky Adams has resigned :(

I know i've wanted him out a few times before but after i said i'd give him 2-3 games we won 2 and drew 1, so i was happy for him to stay until christmas at least, considering we're not terribly placed. Some of our fans' reaction has been a bit over the top but the football and form at home has been poor. He did a very good job in his first year, bit disappointed last year considering the number of leads we lost but not as bad as has been made out this year, considering we're still above Leeds, Wolves and our rivals. After all, Sunderland have shown that a team can climb the table easily with a few wins.

Please don't put Bassett back in charge though :'(

[Rob Ban Fan]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2004471392,,00.html

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">"Well im a better footballer than you."

Brilliant. What a fantastic retort.

:lol:</font>

[Danny Electric]

"You're crap" :D

[Shawshank]

Micky Adams has resigned :(
Please don't put Bassett back in charge though :'(

3 guesses who's in tempary charge?

[Danny Electric]

3 guesses who's in tempary charge?

Brian Clough?
Bill Shankly?
Cristiano Ronaldo?

I give up, it's too hard.

[Shawshank]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2004471392,,00.html

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">"Well im a better footballer than you."

Brilliant. What a fantastic retort.

:lol:</font>

souness was a better footballer this has been proven by the fact he had a moustache!

did anyone hear savage getting interviewed at half time during the england game? how mant times can you fit erm yeah into one sentance ? he must hold the record!

i watched the match on sky one last night and thought it was a good game and abit fiesty at times! Matt Le tiss is quality! only thing that annoyed me about the game was the fact darren campbell was able to run about for 90 minutes yet couldnt last 20 seconds in athens :mad:

[Mr. Monday Morning]

souness was a better footballer this has been proven by the fact he had a moustache!

did anyone hear savage getting interviewed at half time during the england game? how mant times can you fit erm yeah into one sentance ? he must hold the record!

The article's about Beattie :$

[Wengerland]

3 guesses who's in tempary charge?

As soon as i posted that i went and checked Sky Sports News and it had Dave Bassett appointed temporary manager on the ticker :'(

I'm a firm believer that you shouldn't re-appoint managers who were crap for the club.

[Ogen]

souness was a better footballer this has been proven by the fact he had a moustache!

did anyone hear savage getting interviewed at half time during the england game? how mant times can you fit erm yeah into one sentance ? he must hold the record!

i watched the match on sky one last night and thought it was a good game and abit fiesty at times! Matt Le tiss is quality! only thing that annoyed me about the game was the fact darren campbell was able to run about for 90 minutes yet couldnt last 20 seconds in athens :mad:
ahaha Someone jumpred to conclusions. You're crap.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Former Sunderland and Leeds manager Howard Wilkinson has been appointed temporary first-team coach of Leicester.

Wilkinson, the one-time England caretaker coach and technical director, will work with Foxes director of football Dave Bassett following the resignation of Micky Adams on Monday.

Bassett told Sky Sports News: "I spoke to Howard about helping Leicester out and he's accepted that situation.

Wengerland :'(

[Ogen]

Ahahhaha Leicster going form strength to strength I see

[Shawshank]

The article's about Beattie :$


:$ ill have to read link next time i just assumed it was to do with the savage/ souness thing that had happened earlier when souness followed him into brum's changing rooms while having a slanging match!

[Shawshank]

ahaha Someone jumpred to conclusions. You're crap.

as above :eek: :$ :rant: :mad: :foc:

[Wengerland]

Former Sunderland and Leeds manager Howard Wilkinson has been appointed temporary first-team coach of Leicester.

Wilkinson, the one-time England caretaker coach and technical director, will work with Foxes director of football Dave Bassett following the resignation of Micky Adams on Monday.

Bassett told Sky Sports News: "I spoke to Howard about helping Leicester out and he's accepted that situation.

Wengerland :'(

:'( !!!!

I'll give him a chance though, also seeing as Gary McAllister was his captain in the Leeds title win i'm hoping theres a link there and Macca will come back as manager :o

[Cruiserweight 3:16]

As a Leeds fan I'm pretty biased towards Howard Wilkinson, so I'll say that Leicester fans should give him a chance. His track record in the early - mid '90's is really impressive, and he wasn't exactly going to work wonders at Sunderland when they were completely screwed. Besides he's only a first team coach so I seriously doubt that he'll make things worse for them

[Mr. Monday Morning]

He completely fucked up the England Under-21s though :o

[Cruiserweight 3:16]

True

[Cruiserweight 3:16]

David Beckham has admitted to getting deliberately booked against Wales so that he would miss the Azerbaijan game

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">Thats good thinking, probably wasnt the smartest idea to tell everyone though but I suppose he has brains, just not much common sense :o</font>

[Wengerland]

England 1-0 up at half time, Owen with the goal.

[BCWWF]

USA plays tonight on ESPN2. I'm not sure if its a friendly or a qualifier, and I'm not sure against who either. I wanna say Costa Rica or El Salvador, but really I have no idea.

[Ogen]

Ireland won 2-0 against the Faroe Islands we really needed about 4 from it to boost the goal difference but at least its 3 points

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Robbie Keane :love::love::love:

[Ogen]

Pretty bad when you think about it our goal scoring record holder only being 24 shows how poor we've been in the past but Robbie is fucking brilliant

[Paranoid Rattlesnake]

We gonna whoop rickys team on saturday, Come on the mighty tigers

[yianni]

After 10 games in the South American qualifying zone, Chile is 5th. The top 4 qualify and the 5th nation plays off against Australia. Venezuala is just behind Chile on goal diff. Fuck I hope it's them. 8 games to go.

[toxic rooster]

not a chile fan?

[yianni]

I'd take Chile over Uruguay, but I'd take Venezuala over Chile for a few reasons. Firstly, Venezuala have never qualified for the World Cup and are regarded as the whipping boys of South America. So if they finish in 5th they'd be in a similar position to Australia in terms of inexperience. We'd actually have more experience than them cos at least we've made the World Cup before. Secondly, Chile have ALOT of supporters here, especially Melbourne. When South Melbourne played Colo Colo in a friendly here a few years ago, 5000 Chileans rocked up and they made ALOT of noise. Of course, 90,000 Australians at the MCG will overpower them in noise, but the trip to Chile will be very difficult.

I prefer Venezuala also because we played them in a friendly over there at the start of this year, without Kewell, Viduka and a few other first team regulars and held them to a 1-1 draw (only conceding right at the very end). Obviously this was only just a friendly game but without many regulars of the first team we shat over them for large periods of the game. If we play that well again I'm confident we could beat them 2-0 in Melbourne then hold out for a draw or a 1-0 loss or something over in Venezuala. Also I doubt there are many Venezualans in Melbourne. :D

[Cruiserweight 3:16]

Chris Coleman has ruled himself out of the Wales job

[Ogen]

Didn't even know he was in the running. Hope Speed gets it Toshack is a twat

[The Mask]

glazer is a cunt

[Shawshank]

why does he wear is trousers so high?, with all the money he has ud think hed at least buy some decent clothes!

[Shawshank]

middlesbrough havent yet recieved any tickets from elgardo for thursdays game and now dont exspect to recieve them until monday at the earliest leaving the fans having to search for last minute deals to travel there!

what do you guys think about the boro, newcastle and arsenal games all being played in the space of 24 hours ? i think its fifa testing the english fans to see if they will riot when all together abroad!

[Cruiserweight 3:16]

Sam Allardyce has said how he'll allow Speed to coach Wales, but not manage them

[Shawshank]

whats going on with wolves and penalties?

[Mr. Monday Morning]

USELESS BASTARDS

[toxic rooster]

I'd take Chile over Uruguay, but I'd take Venezuala over Chile for a few reasons. Firstly, Venezuala have never qualified for the World Cup and are regarded as the whipping boys of South America. So if they finish in 5th they'd be in a similar position to Australia in terms of inexperience. We'd actually have more experience than them cos at least we've made the World Cup before. Secondly, Chile have ALOT of supporters here, especially Melbourne. When South Melbourne played Colo Colo in a friendly here a few years ago, 5000 Chileans rocked up and they made ALOT of noise. Of course, 90,000 Australians at the MCG will overpower them in noise, but the trip to Chile will be very difficult.

I prefer Venezuala also because we played them in a friendly over there at the start of this year, without Kewell, Viduka and a few other first team regulars and held them to a 1-1 draw (only conceding right at the very end). Obviously this was only just a friendly game but without many regulars of the first team we shat over them for large periods of the game. If we play that well again I'm confident we could beat them 2-0 in Melbourne then hold out for a draw or a 1-0 loss or something over in Venezuala. Also I doubt there are many Venezualans in Melbourne. :D

So it's in Melbourne now?

[diothoir]

glazer is a cunt
You'd think a man with his money would be able to look respectable. :nono:

[yianni]

So it's in Melbourne now?
It should be...not 100% sure, but I think by the time the World Cup Qualifiers come around next year a vast majority of the stadium upgrades will be completed. You going to travel down here to watch? :love:

[Danny Electric]

Ha ha Australians. I remember when Iran beat you in qualifying because you lost your concentration due to the goal falling down.
Then Azizi destroyed you and my dad took me out for dinner to celebrate. Good times.

[Wengerland]

USELESS BASTARDS

:(

(})

[toxic rooster]

Ha ha Australians. I remember when Iran beat you in qualifying because you lost your concentration due to the goal falling down.
Then Azizi destroyed you and my dad took me out for dinner to celebrate. Good times.

You fucking cunt, Johnny Warren cried on national television when that happened :mad:

And shit yeah, I'm coming down. Up for some free accommodation?

[Loose Cannon]

USA plays tonight on ESPN2. I'm not sure if its a friendly or a qualifier, and I'm not sure against who either. I wanna say Costa Rica or El Salvador, but really I have no idea.

They played Panama and won 6-0. They advanced to the Final Group.

Czechs need to step it up a little though :(

[Ricky]

We gonna whoop rickys team on saturday, Come on the mighty tigersHaha twat.

[Paranoid Rattlesnake]

Haha twat.
:'(

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">hahahaha I love you Everton</font>

[Mr. Monday Morning]

I had money on Everton and seriously thought they were going to cock it up :$

:cool:

Also :$ I wonder if Dazz has any thougts on Eidur Gudjohnson :$

[Wengerland]

Another lost lead for us.

Biscan :eek:

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Sun Jihai is out for a year after damaging his medial *and* cruciate ligaments :'(

Ivan Campo might need plastic surgery after his collision with Gary Speed :$

[Cruiserweight 3:16]

^^ That's really bad for both guys. At least Leeds won today

[yianni]

Ha ha Australians. I remember when Iran beat you in qualifying because you lost your concentration due to the goal falling down.
Then Azizi destroyed you and my dad took me out for dinner to celebrate. Good times.
Firstly Iran's first goal was offside. Secondly, their 2nd goal wouldn't have been a problem for us if that fucking dickhead Aurelio Vidmar had put away 1 more of his 30 chances to score and give Australia a 3-0 lead. :nono:

[toxic rooster]

free accommodation? :naughty::mad:

[yianni]

You fucking cunt, Johnny Warren cried on national television when that happened :mad:

And shit yeah, I'm coming down. Up for some free accommodation?
It's such a fucking harsh way to get eliminated. Once more, I blame Vidmar for not converting more of his 30 chances, not the cunt who ripped the net down.

No free accomodation, but a fake ID could be in order. :yes: If you're still not 18 :o

[Cruiserweight 3:16]

Scott Parker admits he is ready to quit Chelsea having only played 10 mins of football in the Premiership

[Danny Electric]

But it's only the result that matters. Good times for all Iranians around the world. Even better when we beat the USA in the World Cup. One up for the Axis Of Evil. :naughty:

[yianni]

But it's only the result that matters.
True. :p

[Danny Electric]

I feel sorry for Australia. You're like Celtic and Rangers, how can you test yourselves when your main opposition in qualifying are so weak.

[Rob]

I feel sorry for Australia. You're like Celtic and Rangers, how can you test yourselves when your main opposition in qualifying are so weak.

Celtic manage it.

Rangers are just mince.

[toxic rooster]

I feel sorry for Australia. You're like Celtic and Rangers, how can you test yourselves when your main opposition in qualifying are so weak.

That's pretty much the problem, we're basically playing 2 meaningful games every 4 years (world cup qualifier home and away legs).

[toxic rooster]

Oh good, Sir Alex is determined to shove his foot squarely in his mouth once again.

http://www.football365.com/news/story_130370.shtml

[Rob]

1 - You did get away with it. The punishments were a joke.

2 - Fergie is just winding you lot up.

3 - I don't even care if we beat you. I just hope we kick the sh</>it out of your pussy players. I still remember 6 on 1 Van Nistelrooy and Vieira crying about being sent off even though he threw a kick at him. See if he does that to Roy Keane or Quinton Fortune.

[The Mackem]

Oh yeah, Sunderland won again yesterday.

[Dazz]

Also :$ I wonder if Dazz has any thougts on Eidur Gudjohnson :$

Plenty of thoughts, anyone who watched the game saw how useless he is, and slicing that shot topped it off. Mourinho apparently keeps pages of notes about each player, I'd like to see his report on Gudjohnsen so I can see why he likes him so much. :mad:

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">Well it turns out your favourite player has failed a drugs test :$ So get used to seeing Eidur i guess.

MUTU MUTU MUTU</font>

[yianni]

I feel sorry for Australia. You're like Celtic and Rangers, how can you test yourselves when your main opposition in qualifying are so weak.
That and half the cunts get injured/excuse themselves whenever there's an international.

[toxic rooster]

1 - You did get away with it. The punishments were a joke.

2 - Fergie is just winding you lot up.

3 - I don't even care if we beat you. I just hope we kick the sh</>it out of your pussy players. I still remember 6 on 1 Van Nistelrooy and Vieira crying about being sent off even though he threw a kick at him. See if he does that to Roy Keane or Quinton Fortune.

1. Yeah the punishments were a joke - Lauren got 4 weeks for handbags. No punches were thrown, there were no 2 footed tackles, nobody got slapped or nothing. Except for Lehmann who got rugby tackled by Fortune (?) and he got off scot-free.

2. No shit, sherlock.

3. I can't personally complain about Vieira getting sent off because he effectively got the same punishment as Ruud for that incident, only Vieira already had a yellow. What pisses me off though is that it seems Ruud obviously had no intent of going for the ball but just went in to piss off Vieira and Vieira fell for the trap.

I could go on forever, but it's bedtime.

[Ogen]

Ah Mutu. Though all the papers seem to think it will be a two year ban which is beyond rediculous for a drug that isn'ta preformance enhancer.

[The Mask]

1 - You did get away with it. The punishments were a joke.

2 - Fergie is just winding you lot up.

3 - I don't even care if we beat you. I just hope we kick the sh</>it out of your pussy players. I still remember 6 on 1 Van Nistelrooy and Vieira crying about being sent off even though he threw a kick at him. See if he does that to Roy Keane or Quinton Fortune.

quinton fortune? like he's going to get near the fucking field on that day.

I'd like to see mighty Gabriel rip him a new arsehole though.

[Cactus Sid]

Ah Mutu. Though all the papers seem to think it will be a two year ban which is beyond rediculous for a drug that isn'ta preformance enhancer.

If they don't all the United fans will being stirring up the ol "Everyone's out to get us" belief.

[The Mask]

well if you get 9 months for missing the test, testing positive should be more severe. maybe not 2 years severe, but still.

[Rob]

1. Yeah the punishments were a joke - Lauren got 4 weeks for handbags. No punches were thrown, there were no 2 footed tackles, nobody got slapped or nothing. Except for Lehmann who got rugby tackled by Fortune (?) and he got off scot-free.

2. No shit, sherlock.

3. I can't personally complain about Vieira getting sent off because he effectively got the same punishment as Ruud for that incident, only Vieira already had a yellow. What pisses me off though is that it seems Ruud obviously had no intent of going for the ball but just went in to piss off Vieira and Vieira fell for the trap.

I could go on forever, but it's bedtime.

Yeah you sound like you were dreaming when you wrote that.

[Wengerland]

Well Lauren got the same as Andy Cole, and i consider throwing a punch a bit more severe than Lauren's offence.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Aaaaaaaaahahaha Bellamy's going to be in trouble after the cameras caught him calling Souness a prick when he was substituted :lol:

If we don't win tomorrow Dave Jones is almost certainly sacked :$

[Ogen]

THere should be fuck all ban its a socail drug not a preformance enhancer

[Wengerland]

6 months i've heard, since he admitted it.

[Wengerland]

Thanks for recalling Harper, Pompey. He was our best player :mad: :'(

[Shawshank]

Mutu has admitted to taking cocaine. Bosnich was banned for about 2 years for doing the same and dumped by chelsea for it!

so it'll be intresting to see what happens with Mutu.

[toxic rooster]

That and half the cunts get injured/excuse themselves whenever there's an international.

We need a base in either Europe or Asia and actually play some decent quality internationals on occasions.

Also I reckon there's no point in even having an Oceania Confederation, like we should just join Asia or something and play off for one of the Asian spots because we'd actually be playing quality internationals more regularly instead of 2 quality internationals in 4 years.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Newcastle manager Graeme Souness insists Craig Bellamy must "sort himself out" for the good of the club after the Wales forward apparently swore at him after being substituted in the Magpies' draw with Charlton.

Souness, famed for his strict managerial style, has not revealed what - if any - action will be taken against the player as punishment for his outburst but insists the culture of the club has got to change.

"I'm angry about it, not because I was called whatever I was called because I'm a big boy and I've been called worse in the past," he said. "I'm angry because we're concentrating on this and not the important thing which is Thursday night. It happens too much and we should only be interested in the next game, not talking about incidents like this."

"All these things have to stop, if we're going to win things at this club we need to concentrate on what matters, not this petulance, not people acting like children. It has to stop and it will stop, I guarantee the supporters that. He (Bellamy) in particular has to sort himself out," Souness told Sky Sports News.

"From the outside looking in before I took this job it seemed to be a recurring situation. The club were making headlines not for attractive football but because some dope was doing what he shouldn't be doing."

-----

Dont' rate Souness too highly as a manager but lord knows he's exactly the type of character that dressing room needed

[Danny Electric]

Cisse is starting to piss me off now.

[Rob Ban Fan]

Thanks for recalling Harper, Pompey. He was our best player :mad: :'(

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">well y'know, we need atleast 1 right winger :$

have it Spurs :cool:</font>

[The Mackem]

1-1 at Watford.

[Cactus Sid]

well if you get 9 months for missing the test, testing positive should be more severe. maybe not 2 years severe, but still.

I do agree with some of the alternatives that the PFA are stating, as opposed to a ban.

That said, rehab's gonna do nothing for a guy who's career is over.

[Cactus Sid]

Cisse is starting to piss me off now.

He'd piss me off but for the fact I know he's got it in him to be a top class player.

[Danny Electric]

He'd piss me off but for the fact I know he's got it in him to be a top class player.

I know but it looks like he can't be bothered.
If only Baros could finish at the moment, that's the only problem with is game. Apart from that he was awesome tonight.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

2-0

Scored a penalty as well :cool:

[Dazz]

Mutu has admitted to taking cocaine. Bosnich was banned for about 2 years for doing the same and dumped by chelsea for it!

so it'll be intresting to see what happens with Mutu.

:wtf: osnich was banned for nine months and he claimed his drink was spiked, Mutu's ban should surely not be as bad as Bosnich's, but of course, should be worse the Ferdinand's. I guess its a tough one to call.

[Shawshank]

i thought bosnich was banned for longer, prob because i dont think he's played since.

So Dazz your saying Mutu shouldnt be banned for as long as bosnich but banned for longer than ferdinand, wasnt rio banned for 8 or 9 months? and you say bosnich was banned for 9. Rio missed a test & there is (obviously due to missed test) no evidence he had taken anything, bosnich claims to have been spiked therefor deniying he had knowingly taken anything and they both get similar length bans. Yet Mutu openly admits to taking cocaine and you think he shoulld get a shorter ban?

like you say its a tough one to call as IMO he should get longer purly because of what they did to rio and if he gets anything shorter we will have to put up with ferguson winging about it.

then you move onto the issue of if it would have altered his performances as i dont think they class it as a performance enhacher drug do they?

it'll be interesting to see what they do and IMO i think he will be looking at 1 year ban at the least.

[Shawshank]

2-0

Scored a penalty as well :cool:

:wtf: they finally scored one ? :y:

[jerichoholic169]

the rio case was when the FA really decided to do something and make an example out of somebody. now that they've taken that hardline response, they cant back down on it really or everyone will think the FA is a joke. so if rio got banned for 9 months for missing a test, mutu is probably going to get two years for openly admitting taking cocaine. at any rate his career at chelsea is over.

[Rob]

6 months i've heard, since he admitted it.

How did he admit it? He got caught first! It's easy to admit it once two failed samples come in. Not like he can deny it. Paul Merson admitted his addiction. Mutu got caught. Big difference.

[Rob]

:wtf: osnich was banned for nine months and he claimed his drink was spiked, Mutu's ban should surely not be as bad as Bosnich's, but of course, should be worse the Ferdinand's. I guess its a tough one to call.

Yeah because you know drinks are spiked with Cocaine all the time :roll:

Bosnich just was quoted two weeks ago as saying he has been clean for the last 6 months. Funny how he said that but yet his drink was spiked.

As for Mutu, he got caught. Plain and simple. He didn't admit sh</>it until he got caught. Rules are rules and he should not see a football pitch for 2 years. Send him back to Romania to steal more handbags or something.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Apparently Mourinho ordered the tests that caught him out :o

[Mr. Monday Morning]

"Me? Cocaine? God forbid. These are very cheap rumours. I can always bring as truth the tests that I take in the UK. The life of a footballer does not allow you to slip up like this.

"We take weekly tests in England. We have urine tests, blood tests, hair tests. If you have no hair on your head they take from wherever you can. All tests are sealed and sent to the United States. Keep this in mind: it happens once a week."

Guess who, quoted in August :$

[Ogen]

Soccer ace's attack on boy
By DEREK BROWN

A FOOTBALLER has been sacked for allegedly sexually assaulting a youth team player.

Oxford United’s Julian Alsop is said to have tried to shove a banana up his backside as a prank went too far.

The terrified 16-year-old, who was reportedly stripped naked, wept as other players egged Alsop on.

What has been described as a play fight two weeks ago at Oxford’s training ground soon spiralled out of control.

Witnesses claimed Alsop, 31, got angry when the boy retaliated.

Alsop was said to have stripped him and then started whipping him with a towel.

Encouraged by other players, Alsop, allegedly manhandled the still-naked boy out on to the training pitch.

He got another player to hold down the youth while he fetched a banana, which he is then alleged to have tried to ram up the boy’s backside.

Amazingly, the matter was not reported to police because the teenager felt it might affect his future at the club.

But his furious parents went to the League Two club to protest after hearing of the alleged incident.

They demanded action and Oxford manager Graham Rix — who served time in prison after being found guilty of having sex with a 15-year-old girl in 1999 — fired Alsop on Monday.

[jerichoholic169]

Soccer ace's attack on boy
By DEREK BROWN

A FOOTBALLER has been sacked for allegedly sexually assaulting a youth team player.

Oxford United’s Julian Alsop is said to have tried to shove a banana up his backside as a prank went too far.

The terrified 16-year-old, who was reportedly stripped naked, wept as other players egged Alsop on.

What has been described as a play fight two weeks ago at Oxford’s training ground soon spiralled out of control.

Witnesses claimed Alsop, 31, got angry when the boy retaliated.

Alsop was said to have stripped him and then started whipping him with a towel.

Encouraged by other players, Alsop, allegedly manhandled the still-naked boy out on to the training pitch.

He got another player to hold down the youth while he fetched a banana, which he is then alleged to have tried to ram up the boy’s backside.

Amazingly, the matter was not reported to police because the teenager felt it might affect his future at the club.

But his furious parents went to the League Two club to protest after hearing of the alleged incident.

They demanded action and Oxford manager Graham Rix — who served time in prison after being found guilty of having sex with a 15-year-old girl in 1999 — fired Alsop on Monday.

thats really wrong......so is danny alsop football's version of bradshaw then!? glad he got fired for that.

[Rob]

My cousin got sacked from Dundee because a senior player took a dump in his footballers and he belted the life out of him.

[Ogen]

Love how hes described as a soccer ace

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Claudio Caniggia and Diego Maradona got a year's ban for testing positive for cocaine in Italy in the early 90s, I remember. Mutu's career is hardly over. He's still young, and he made a mistake.

Mutu will get lenience for not fighting the charges. It's not admitting your problem as opposed to being caught, it's accepting that you have been caught and that you're going to get punished. Mutu is within his rights to have a second test analysed, further tests done and to go through an appeal process, but he isn't doing any of it.

Had Rio Ferdinand and Manchester United not taken the FA on and tried to blame them for the fiasco, Rio would not have had such a lengthy ban. They miscalculated their own power, there, when really Rio should have plead guilty straight away, since he definitely was guilty, and then his sentence would have been mitigated accordingly.

Cocaine is not a performance enhancing drug, so Mutu is not a cheat, just an overpaid idiot.

[Ogen]

Hes started some rehab thing with some FA appointed guy today

[Rob]

Cocaine is not a performance enhancing drug, so Mutu is not a cheat, just an overpaid idiot.

It might not be performance enhancing but taking drugs are against the rules. Rules and rules and he tried to deceive them so he is a cheat. Maradona got called a lot worse and he is 100 times a better player.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

It might not be performance enhancing but taking drugs are against the rules. Rules and rules and he tried to deceive them so he is a cheat. Maradona got called a lot worse and he is 100 times a better player.
Maradona has tested positive for more than just cocaine in his time. He has, in fact, been found to be on performance enhancers or banned substances.

The fact that cocaine is a recreational drug and Mutu is undergoing rehab will rightly mitigate in his favour. I think a 6 month ban would be more than fair. Accepting his fate goes in his favour too.

Like I said, if Rio and Manchester United hadn't tried to make it a power issue with the FA, he could have had a 3 month ban and been back playing by Febuary 2004.

[Dazz]

When United asked the F.A for the reasoning behind the lengthy ban of Rio they said that it was that United never stuck to the same story, no one accepted blame for him missing the test. There were two people who were blamed for not making sure Rio had the test, but both passed the blame onto each other and made it sound like it wasn't their problem.

Mutu is already in rehab, my guess is six months, and I have a feeling that we will see him put on a Chelsea shirt again. Bates wouldn't take this kind of shit from anyone, not that Mourinho will, but no one will buy him now and I can't see Roman sacking him. My guess is he gets a huge pay cut whilst in rehab, when he is done in rehab he finishes his ban (or if it is finished he returns to the team) and they increase his pay but not to what it was before, and then they randomly test him for drugs and after a certain amount of time if he is clean, then give him his old wage back.

And Shawshank, when I said that he should be banned for as long as Bosnich but longer then Ferdinand, and said that they both got nine months, my point was that the rules would be very inconsistant if he wasn't banned for the nine months, although as he has now accepted he did drugs and not had a econd sample, things are very much different.

[yianni]

Wee Gooner - WTF at this link if it's true

http://p201.ezboard.com/fknightsarmy86976frm1.showMessage?topicID=5811.topic

:mad: :'( :|

[toxic rooster]

Those fucking cunts :mad:

[yianni]

I've gandered at various other Australian football sites and there doesn't seem to be any other news on it, so perhaps these Knights cunts are spinning shit. If it's true though...well fuck it, it'd be one of the worst decisions ever made here (and that's saying alot :o)

[toxic rooster]

I reckon in a few day's time there'll probably be some press release by the ASA either confirming or quashing these "rumours which have sprung up in some football circles" or something

[yianni]

Btw, one of the cunts on the link said the G will be fully ready in early 2006.

I'm sure we could cram 90,000 people in for the WCQ though.

[toxic rooster]

For le Commonwealth Games

If they can do AFL grand final there, they can do WCQ

[yianni]

Yes but that's AFL, they'll go out of their way to do ANYTHING for them. :roll:

[Shawshank]

:love: Stewie Downing :love:

[Rob]

Apparently Mutu is skint. My heart bleeds for him.

[LK]

:love: Stewie Downing :love:

Ehm that's Stewart Downing

[Mr. Monday Morning]

He's been quoted as saying he took a recreational drug but not cocaine :wtf:

[Rob]

He should get a 2 year ban just for being thick as sh</>it.

[Dazz]

He should get a 2 year ban just for being thick as sh</>it.

Well, if you suggested it to him I'm sure Sepp Blatter would bring that rule into force.


Mutu did admit to doing cocaine a few days ago, I guess he will go for the old classic of "I was misquoted."

And I'm not suprised he is skint, he spends money on drugs and cars, police bail and fuck knows what else, prolly has to pay his ex wife all kinds of shit and now hey are getting back together, and now the guy has been finded two weeks wages for deying Mourinho and playing for Romania. Added to the fine he will get for being guily of this, and losing his pepsi sponsorship, the guy has had a bad last month. Not that I'm saying he didn't bring it all on himself.

[toxic rooster]

Fact is, if either you or me admitted to taking cocaine they'd probably chuck us in prison for 2 years or something

[Paranoid Rattlesnake]

Fact is, if either you or me admitted to taking cocaine they'd probably chuck us in prison for 2 years or something
No they wouldn't

[toxic rooster]

what then, like community service?

whatever the case is, it'd be much worse than not being allowed to play football for 2 years

[Paranoid Rattlesnake]

what then, like community service?

whatever the case is, it'd be much worse than not being allowed to play football for 2 years

Would you get anything for admitting to taking it???

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Odds are you would lose your job and have very dodgy prospects of being re-employed. Probably be put onto a rehab course at your own expense as well.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Also it depends if you did something stupid like driving while high, or being caught in possession. Two entirely different things from just using I know, but I'm just trying to cover all the bases.

[Ogen]

What nothing would happen if a average person admited doing coke. I've had mates caught by the police with it and fuck all happened just cautioned.

[Dazz]

If I told a policeman that I have done cocke this year, fuck all would happen. They would try and find out who supplied it probably, but nothing would happen. Angus Deayton wasn't jailed for doing coke.

[Rob]

Mutu is now saying he only took drugs to boost his sex life.

Probably couldn't get it up because he was snorting too much blow. Man, this dude is a fu</>cking idiot.

[Rob]

Well, if you suggested it to him I'm sure Sepp Blatter would bring that rule into force.


Cool. What's his number?

I'll remember and kill him while I'm at it so we can have someone with half a brain in control of FIFA.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

You think FIFA would vote in a replacement with half a brain? No chance, the guy who gets in is the one who lines up the best hookers on the jaunts to tropical islands.

[Rob]

I'm in then :shifty:

[Mr. Monday Morning]

It depends on the amount...if they can get someone on intent to supply they will

[Cactus Sid]

He should get a 2 year ban just for being thick as sh</>it.

It has to be said.

What about Rio then?

[Dazz]

Cool. What's his number?

I'll remember and kill him while I'm at it so we can have someone with half a brain in control of FIFA.

Wait till after he makes women wear skimpy outfits. :shifty:

[Rob]

It has to be said.

What about Rio then?

At least Rio stuck to his story.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

LOL it took them weeks to figure out what Rio's story was :p

[toxic rooster]

Good old Naarwich

[Rob]

LOL it took them weeks to figure out what Rio's story was :p

Leave me out. We all know the score within 2 days. And Rio's story hasn't change at all to this day.

[Wengerland]

3 games under Bassett, 3 leads lost :|

Beckham got off without punishment for that deliberate booking thing but it's not likely the FA would properly punish the England captain, considering they also failed to do so when Shearer kicked Lennon in the face about 6 years ago.

[Danny Electric]

I don't want Beckham to be punished. As much as he pisses me off, he's an influential player in our team and I want him to be there.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Why not? So he can be a prat again and get suspended for a game that matters?

[Danny Electric]

I think that we have more imprtnat games coming up but I don't want him suspended. He got the 2 bbokings out of the way, now let's concentrate on the football and qualify.

[Wengerland]

A warning is enough really, he just shouldn't have admitted it.

Great performance from Liverpool, really should have won by more.

[Danny Electric]

A warning is enough really, he just shouldn't have admitted it.

Great performance from Liverpool, really should have won by more.

That's what I think, he was an idiot for admitting it. If he would have just kept quiet then this wouldn't have hapenned.

[Cruiserweight 3:16]

Leeds lost apparently - bugger

[Dazz]

At least Rio stuck to his story.

He may have, but two members of United's staff who played an important role didn't.

Plus I doubt Mutu admitted doing coacaine if he has now said it was sex enhancing drugs,

[Dazz]

Oh and LOL at Gudjohnsen scoring a hat trick. I always had faith in him. Shows Mourinho did the right thing to stay loyal to him. Mind you, IMO Kezman worked MUCH harder in the 20 minutes he was on then Eidur in the 70 minutes he wass on for. I felt really bad for Kezman when he hit the bar, the guy can do everything but score, good to see the fans singing "Come on Kezman, Come on Kezman" and him clapping us and putting his thumb up, then us clapping him back. Second time we did it he started worshipping us :cool:. Before anyone else says it, at the moment he acts like a Forlan. But I can't wait till he gets a few under his belt.

Robben is the man :cool:

[Oxstar]

Crystal Palace 3 West Brom 0

Andy Johnson for England. Come on you Eagles, i liked Chelsea's formation yesterday, Batman and Robin will be the goods soon.

[Wengerland]

I wouldn't be worried about Kezman, anyone who betters van Nistelrooy's record for PSV can't be bad.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Kezman is the man, he hasn't exactly messed up as bad as some people have been saying, I don't think he's played a full game for Chelsea this season so far. Plus, let's face it, before yesterday nobody else was banging in a shedload of goals either.

[Dazz]

Yeah it's just a matter of time before he finds his feet, but at the moment you've just gotta feel sorry for him.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Kezman is much more confident than Forlan and cockier. He'll do well eventually, given the chance.

He was really unlucky yesterday with the chance that hit the bar. If you're on form, you step up and put your foot through that, rifle it into the net. When you're not scoring, it bobbles up and comes off your shin. Kezman's record speaks for itself.

[Wengerland]

That Southampton/Birmingham game was terrible.

Feel sorry for Heskey, he just had no support despite winning almost every aerial challenge.

[jerichoholic169]

this game is going to be good. i hope there's no repeat of last year's rubbish and it'll be a seven goal thriller - i can hope at least!!

come on united!!

[Wengerland]

It will seem like the greatest game ever for me, having just watched that last game.

[Ferocious]

I can only get odds of 3-1 on Stewart Downing playing for England before the World Cup.

Best English Left Sided Midfielder in the last 15 years easily.

[jerichoholic169]

bye bye arsenal's unbeaten record...go rooney!!

[Wengerland]

Not really a penalty but congrats Man Utd, also to Arsenal for the unbeaten run.

[LK]

2-0 YES!

[Dazz]

LOL at Nistelrooy pushing Lehmann, I hate RvN but its always funny to see someone do it to Lehmann, he truely deserves it.

Might not have been a penalty but The Fake Ronaldo should have got one later on when Ashley Cole slid him by the byline.

United defended really well and Rooney getting a penalty for diving didn't exactly please me but since Arsenal dive I guess what goes around comes around.

Thoughts for the league title? I'm going for United, and not because they played well today, but because they are the best team in the league. I have said since June that they will win the league and I am sticking by that.

[Wengerland]

Still Arsenal for me.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Yeah, I'd have to go with Arsenal as well. United will make up ground but I just think they've left themselves a bit too much to do this time.

[Cactus Sid]

Arsenal all the way.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

K having just seen the BBC highlights (love how they still completely refuse to come down off the fence for *anything* :roll: )

-Ferdinand should've been off, there's no way that was not a foul

-Van Nistelrooy should be suspended just as Redknapp was not so long ago. It was just a bad a hack as Redknapp's, maybe worse as there's no way he was going for the ball.

-Rooney dived. Anyone with eyes can see that. However, Cole on Ronaldo definitely was a penalty, so in that sense it evened out.

[jerichoholic169]

well ive got to say that mike riley really shouldnt be allowed to ref utd matches anymore. every game he refs for us he gives us really dodgy decisions - isnt it something like 8 penalties in 8 games now??

rooney went down but the angle the ref had it did look like campbell caught him. and rio is the luckiest guy in manchester tonight. the only way he couldn't have got sent off is because freddie kicked the ball too far before he went down.

however this is the sort of thing that can change seasons on their heads. to be honest i cant see arsenal screwing up and not winning the title but stranger things have happend. be interesting to see whether a) arsenal can come back from what is a moral crushing loss, and b) whether united can take this result and go on from it and get a winning streak going.

[Dazz]

rooney went down but the angle the ref had it did look like campbell caught him.

Exactly, I thought it was a penalty first time too.

United don't get players sent off at home, simple as. Like last season when Chelsea went their at the end of the season and had Scholes been rightfully sent off (was booked for diving) after fouling Lampard from behind, then he would have missed the final. And there is no doubt that it was a bookable offense.

When NEwcastle played their and someone (G Neville possibly) passed it back to Howard Shearer nipped in in front and got the ball, Howard kept swinging and swiped Shearer's legs by accident. Had Shearer dived he should have been booked, had Shearer not dived then it should have been a penalty, instead neither was awarded.

I would give other examples if I could remember them, but I'd like to see the stats on things like United players sent off at OT, penalties awarded to ManYoo and penalties awarded to opposition.

[Wengerland]

Well there was that old 10 years without conceding a penalty at home in the league one, i think that was broken last year by Steed Malbranque scoring one or at least Danny Murphy's.

[toxic rooster]

rooney went down but the angle the ref had it did look like campbell caught him.
What, doesn't he have a linesman he can check with?

[yianni]

Mate you cunts (Arsenal) will win the league anyway so relax. ;)

[jerichoholic169]

What, doesn't he have a linesman he can check with?

this is mike riley we're talking about.

[Dazz]

It was hard to see that it was a dive, Rooney went down convincingly.

In the 1994 F.A Cup final Ellery gave a penalty and didn't change his decision despite the linesman who was in a MUCH better position saying that it was not a penalty.

[Cactus Sid]

It was hard to see that it was a dive, Rooney went down convincingly.


Exactly.

Even though on the replay you can see its not a penalty, if I was in Riley's position I'd have given it.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

-Ferdinand should've been off, there's no way that was not a foul

Nah, it was a foul, but not a red card. This is one of those bullshit things that the media perpetuate, that any time a defender is the last man and fouls, he has to be sent off, or a handball has to be deliberate to be a free kick/penalty.

Ljungberg wasn't going to score, he knocked the ball too far in front of him. Rio clashed with him, and fouled him sure enough, but it wasn't stopping a goalscoring opportunity. Wasn't a professional foul, wasn't a red card. Just a free kick.

[toxic rooster]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2914&item=7109846501&rd=1

[jerichoholic169]

lol thats quite funny. i should put a bid in to keep him at united.....he's worth more than forlan was at any rate.

hopefully RVN will get banned by the FA now - in replay you could see him look at cole and then raise his studs. that was absolutely outrageous. even though he's my favourite player, he still should be banned for that disgraceful act.

and hopefully mike riley will be banned as well -didnt they do that to another ref earlier on this season??

and rio shouldn't have been sent off but at least arsenal should have got a free kick.

and if you want to see a bad penalty decision, watch the highlights of the barca game at the weekend....ronaldinho was embarrased by the decision!!

[Danny Electric]

http://skysports.planetfootball.com/list.asp?hlid=233757&cpid=8&CLID=&lid=2&title=FA+charge+Ruud+over+Cole+tackle


RVN has been charged by the FA.

[Dazz]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2914&item=7109846501&rd=1

Just tried to bid on him and I got this:

The following must be corrected before continuing:
• Sorry, your bid amount of £10,000,100.00 is too large.

But thats the next lowest you can bid :'(

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Get Roman on the case

[toxic rooster]

I was just thinking that :lol:

[Paranoid Rattlesnake]

Well there was that old 10 years without conceding a penalty at home in the league one, i think that was broken last year by Steed Malbranque scoring one or at least Danny Murphy's.
Theres a difference between conceding and scoring

[Wengerland]

conceding a goal from a penalty i meant, my mistake.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Mendieta is out for the season :$

Gary Megson has confirmed he's not going to renew his contract, which runs out at the end of this season :lol:

[Mr. Monday Morning]

<a href="http://www.arsenalshorts.com/rvncheat/index.shtml">ROFL</a>

[Ogen]

And now Megsons been sacked, Hoddle seems to be in the running

[Mr. Monday Morning]

:lol::lol::lol: Poor old managerless scum

[Rob]

Two days after and Arsenal fans are STILL crying over the match. God, I thought people were obsessed with Montreal!

[toxic rooster]

Two days after and Arsenal fans are STILL crying over the match. God, I thought people were obsessed with Montreal!
So what...Pires dived 13 MONTHS ago and people are still crying about it

[Cactus Sid]

Two days after and Arsenal fans are STILL crying over the match. God, I thought people were obsessed with Montreal!

Face it Rob, you'll deny this, but if the shoe was on the other foot, you'd be doing EXACTLY the same thing.

[Rob]

Well obviously I'll deny something that isn't true. We have been beat before. You bitch about it once, get it out of your system and get on with it.

[Ogen]

Burnley 3 - Villa 1

And they missed a peno. What utter shit. We had our best 11 out aswell. Injuries can't be an excuse for that kind of preformace. Total crap and our one slim chance of Europe is now gone.

[Dazz]

It's a funny old game

[Ogen]

Samba stars to join Garforth Town


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</td></tr> </tbody></table> <!-- E IIMA --> In one of the most unlikely moves in recent times Brazilian legends Socrates and Careca have agreed a deal with Yorkshire non-League team Garforth Town. The majestic pair have long since retired but the lure of a spell in the Northern Counties East League has proved too much for them.

Careca, 44, and Socrates, 50, could also be joined by former international team-mate Zico, who is another being lined up by the club.

Garforth owner and manager Simon Clifford said: "I put out a few feelers and Socrates said he would be interested. He's a pretty principled guy and isn't interested in the money - which is just as well because we're not paying him.

"I'm told he's still in good shape, although he's still smoking. I'm pretty strict on discipline and smoking but I guess I can make an exception for him.

"Careca's also coming for next season and Zico is going to try his best."

Clifford has built up a string of contacts in Brazil through his Socatots coaching schools.

And his masterplan is to bring Garforth into the Premiership by 2025 and also tried to snap up 1994 World Cup winners Bebeto and Romario.

Socrates, who joins former England international Lee Sharpe at the club, skippered Brazil at two World Cups and was unquestionably one of the greatest players of his generation.

He has signed a one-month deal with the club and is expected to make his debut against Tadcaster Albion in front of a capacity 3,000 home crowd at Garforth - a far cry from playing in front of 200,000 at the Maracana in Rio de Janeiro.

Socrates - not surprisingly - has a reputation as a deep thinker with strong views not only on football but society in general.

Quite what he will make of Garforth - a former pit village in the heartland of West Yorkshire - remains to be seen.

A doctor by profession, his new team-mates will include a gardener and an electrician.

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[jerichoholic169]

wow that's big news. its glad to see that not all the famous footballers are obsessed with money and fame.

[Danny Electric]

It's a good way to get past our immigration laws, he probably gambled his money away. :shifty:

[yianni]

Another footballer collapses on-field and dies. :-\

http://www4.sbs.com.au/home/index.php3?id=51250

Brazilian player dies
SBS

Sao Caetano defender Serginho has died after suffering a heart attack during Wednesday's Campeonato Brasileiro match against Sao Paulo.

The club's official website stated that the 30-year-old suffered a suspected cardio-respiratory arrest although the official cause of death was not immediately released.

The match was abandoned after Serginho's collapse in the 59th minute at the Morumbi Stadium in Sao Paulo.

Medical staff at the ground attempted to revive the player - who full name is Paulo Sergio de Oliveira Silva - as stunned players looked on helplessly while others break down in tears.

Serginho was still unconscious when he was rushed to the Sao Luiz hospital with Sao Caetano president Nairo Ferreira later informing reporters that he had died shortly after arrival.

"We did what we could do, but the situation was very serious from the moment he fell to the ground," doctor Jose Sanchez said.

Serginho is survived by his wife and his 4-year-old son.

The incident occurred just hours after Bolton midfielder fainted during the warm-up for Bolton's Carling Cup match against Tottenham. The Senegal ace - who has a history of heart problems - has recovered and is in hospital for observation.

Earlier this year, a third-division player collapsed and died during training in Budapest while Benfica's Hungarian player Miklos Feher collapsed during a Portugal top flight match against Vitoria Guimaraes and later died in hospital.

In 2003, Cameroon star Marc-Vivien Foe collapsed and died after suffering a heart attack during the semi-final of the Confederations Cup.


RIP :(

[welshladbaz]

sadly it seems to be happening more and more now, there got to be something hidden in there, for all these super fit atheletes to just collapse and die.

thoughts so all the family

RIP :(

[Ogen]

In this case he was fully aware of the risks in playing though. Earlier in the year the club found he had a heart problem and he signed stuff saying he wished to play regardless. Still a shame though.

[Dazz]

In this case he was fully aware of the risks in playing though. Earlier in the year the club found he had a heart problem and he signed stuff saying he wished to play regardless. Still a shame though.

Yeah their keeper (I think it was) said that he had a heart problem and was told there was a 1% chance it could affect him during the game, but he wanted to take the risk.


Like you say, still a shame.

[The Mask]

bit late here, but WOOOO.

[toxic rooster]

:|

[Dazz]

He is obviously talking about the United match and not the player dying.

And Mutu has been sacked by Chelsea.

[Rob]

I wouldn't have sacked Mutu. I'd hold his contract for the two years he is suspended and suspend his pay.

[Dazz]

Yeah they should have let Jose and Mutu have a proper talk about it and then decide.

Although Mutu apparantley said he was close to punching Mourinho after he refused to let him play for Romania.

[Mike the Metal Ed]

Hearts' Craig Levein was unveiled as the new Leicester City manager earlier today.

http://skysports.planetfootball.com/list.asp?hlid=234859&CPID=10&CLID=&lid=2&title=Foxes+confirm+Levein+as+boss
Leicester have unveiled Craig Levein as their new manager.

Levein quit Hearts earlier on Friday after both clubs agreed a compensation package for his move south.

The former Scottish international replaces Micky Adams at The Walkers Stadium following his departure earlier this month.

Levein revealed it was a wrench to leave Hearts, but that it has always been his ambition to manage in England.

"Leaving Hearts was very difficult, but it was not a difficult decision," Levein said.

"The decision came about through my own ambition to manage in England and ultimately to manage in The Premiership.

"It was hard to say goodbye to some good friends and people I enjoyed working with immensely, and particularly the players who gave me the opportunity to join such a fantastic club as Leicester.

"For a year or so now, I've been looking. And I realised to get to the English Premiership, where I wanted to be, it would be difficult to do that from a provincial club which Hearts are.

"I've been looking for a club with the same ambition as I have, and the recent history of Leicester would dictate that they are a Premiership club.

"I'm very confident that we match each other's ambition and we can move forward together."

Levein also revealed he is looking to bring in a new number two with experience of English football, as well as his assistant Peter Houston from Hearts.

"Peter Houston will join me in some capacity and I have someone in mind as my number two and I working on that right now.

"I want an assistant that knows a lot about The Championship and English football and in general, people who know more than me."
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I don't know anything about the guy, or whether he's any good, but the FoxFanzine.com posters seem to be happy about it, but thats probably just because that means no more Harry or Wilko.

[Wengerland]

Yeah i would have been happy with anyone but those two, just a shame Bassett is going back to being director of football.

Levein himself seems a quality appointment and seems to have done well at Hearts, another young manager is what most of us wanted and the only downfall is the compensation really.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Let's hope he's not another Paul Sturrock eh ;)

[Ogen]

Ahah United you complete muppets beat Arsenal give yourselves a chance then lose to Portsmouth of all people. I mean Arsenal only drew but thats shite

[The Mackem]

5th :cool:

2-0

[Mr. Monday Morning]

We will defeat you crumb :mad:

<font size=1>even though we can't beat 10 man Gillingham<font>

[Rob]

Let's hope he's not another Paul Sturrock eh ;)

Keep hoping... because he is worse.

[Rob]

Ahah United you complete muppets beat Arsenal give yourselves a chance then lose to Portsmouth of all people. I mean Arsenal only drew but thats shite

Yes it is. No excuses. Can't believe all these fu</>cking cockney reds phoning up Talk Sport and saying Fergie should get sacked though. People should be killed for even thinking that! They were blaming Fergie for the strikers not scoring and O'Shea playing crap. How's that his fault?

[Hired Hitman]

Portsmouth :cool: :cool:

[The Mask]

fucking cockney reds?

robert, sit down and think about what you just said.

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">I honestly don't understand why its such a big shock to everyone that we won. We beat them last year, drew with Arsenal, drew with Newcastle, beat Liverpool twice, spanked various other teams. The fact is, we had the best home form in the league behind Arsenal, Chelsea and Man U last season, the same as Liverpool. Had we been better away from home we would've been pushing for Europe.

I was more confident of getting a result yesterday than I was when we played Spurs, Everton and Birmingham simply because I knew that unlike those teams, United would allow us to play football rather than stifle us and we were never not going to score.

Good times.</font>

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Yakaboo :cool:

[Ogen]

Yes it is. No excuses. Can't believe all these fu</>cking cockney reds phoning up Talk Sport and saying Fergie should get sacked though. People should be killed for even thinking that! They were blaming Fergie for the strikers not scoring and O'Shea playing crap. How's that his fault?

He should stop playing O'Shea really, I mean I'd like nothing more than to see him develop into a great player for Ireland's sake but hes looked terrible for United this year.. But yeah suggesting sacking the best manager in the history of the premiership is stupid.

[Dazz]

Fuck United, no one gives a shit.

Us scoring 4 in another game is the main issue of the weekend. And people say we're boring :roll:

[Rob]

fucking cockney reds?

robert, sit down and think about what you just said.

Since I don't talk like an average Londoner and I wasn't born within a mile of the bow bells, I ain't cockney. Smart arse.

[Rob]

Fuck United, no one gives a shit.

Us scoring 4 in another game is the main issue of the weekend. And people say we're boring :roll:

:lol: Nobody cares about United? The only time you can get in the papers is when your players are caught taking drugs.

[The Mackem]

We will defeat you crumb :mad:

even though we can't beat 10 man Gillingham

:mad:

[Dazz]

:lol: Nobody cares about United? The only time you can get in the papers is when your players are caught taking drugs.

:'(

[The Mask]

you'll always be a cockney to me :love:

[Wengerland]

Oh yeah, credit to Crystal Palace for some good results :y:

[Wengerland]

Wolves have sacked Dave Jones.

[Paranoid Rattlesnake]

We will defeat you crumb :mad:

even though we can't beat 10 man Gillingham

and the fact you haven't got a manager

[Mr. Monday Morning]

LOL yeah good one, we'll probably play better without him :| :roll:

The man will be remembered for a long time for finally getting us into the Prem but the start this season has been absolutely atrocious. Gillingham was just the icing on the cake. The season's not quite a write-off but it's going to take something spectacular for us to get promoted now.

As for replacements I dunno...foremost in my thinking tbh is John Gregory, he knows the area, did a good job at Villa (far as I'm concerned he didn't deserve to be sacked, Taylor came in and almost got them relegated, then O'Leary took basically the squad Gregory built and got them back into the top 6 or so) and to be quite honest he'd make a refreshing change as someone who isn't afraid to speak out and be blunt...not saying Jones didn't but too often there'd be excuses where blame should've been apportioned.

[Ogen]

Gregorys a dodgy fucker mind a lot of stories of Villla paying over the odds with money going his way. But still hes a decent manager but questions were asked over what he paid for some players ( I.E Balaban for 6 million )