Football Talk 2004/2005 (Soccer)

[Dazz]

:$ Looked like it to me

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Are you saying a couple of goals in a match where no one was tackling anyone else says something about Camara's quality, Dazz?

Considering the nature of the goals, too, which I did see, you'd have to be a moron to suggest they mean anything.

You obviously haven't seen very much of Henri Camara if you think he is a good player. Just because he's knocked a couple in for Southampton, you're getting carried away.

Keep an eye out for Southampton matches, if you can bear it, and try watching the fellow.

It's pretty funny when you're always going off on one about how Ruud Van Nistelrooy isn't very good, but Henri Camara is.

[Dazz]

No, I never said Ruud Van Nistelrooy isn't very good, find me a post where I have said that, I said he gets too much praise, he has people licking his arse left right and centre yet he ca only do the simple things, anyways why bring that up again, it would go on forever, I have argued with so many peoiple about it and never changed my opinion, so you won't be able to either.

I know there was no tackling, but that doesn't mean that he has a bad touch like you claim, he still had to dribble the fecking ball, and finish it. Do you honestley think he can't finish the ball? Wow he was shit for Celtic, look at Chris Sutton for Chelsea, it wasn't just the finishing, his all round play was dissapointing at us, yet you still get overly wound up at my disliking for Sutton.

Camara played badly for one team, MMM won't admit he played well for them as he fucked around at the end of the season, it's what being biased and sticking up for your own team is all about. A good example of which is after the Pompey Vs Chelsea game on Deceber 28th, me, my dad and a few of his mates went to it, and in a pub with Pompey fans after the match, we were talking to some of them whilst the SOuthampton Liverpool match was on and they were going "Southampton will go down, Redknapp's too shit too keep them up" Honest to god, Pompey fans were caling Redknapp shit. Because they are bitter, MMM would love to have Camara playing for Wolves if he didn't critisize the club and pretty much say he'd never play for them again because they are not good enough, and when they are currently 17th in the Championship you can surely see where he is coming from, he deserves better them then.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

He was fucking shite for Wolves, Dazz. He was awful. He had a streak at the end of the season where he bagged a few goals, but he was terrible for the most part.

He was fucking awful for Celtic, similarly, but he also bagged a few goals.

His touch is pathetic. Have you actually seen any full, competitive matches he has played in? Utterly pathetic. I really cannot understand how anyone could say he has a good touch and is a good finisher.

A good finisher would NOT miss the chances he does constantly. He had 7 goals in 30 matches last season. Hardly a good return for someone who deserves better, and if he was any good he could have put away a few more goals to keep Wolves alive, instead of getting them all towards the end of the season when they were pretty much down already.

I saw him play several matches last season for Wolves. I remember him from the World Cup in 2002, even when he managed to bag a couple there in the second round (I think), and I've seen him play quite a few times for Celtic this season.

There are good players who play badly, and there are just plain bad players, and Camara is a bad player.

[Dazz]

People need to settle in, look at Kezza at us, and Forlan at Chelsea, Angel at Villa, all the senegalese players liverpool signed. I know Camara only came from the French league, bu I'm sure some of Liverpools Senegalese players did too, and LeBouef mentioned our league being more physical, he just had to adjust, and when he did, he hit good form, scoring good goals. If his touch was as bad as you say, he wouldn't have got into good positions, and if his finishing was as bad as you say, then a highly rated keeper like Toldo would be able to save his shots.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

For him to criticise us for not being good enough when he helped get us relegated by playing shit is where it stems from, but I've said that dozens of times already. Plus, again, it's not just us. When he was AT Celtic he said Celtic weren't a big enough team for him. WTF does he want, Barcelona to step in and snap him up?

Let's face it, why do you think we were able to sign him in the first place? Nobody else wanted to. He scored in the 2002 World Cup (silver goal against Sweden if I'm not mistaken), and as you know the World Cup is *the* shop window if you want a move. Nobody bought him. Doesn't say a whole lot right there really.

Also, I have to re-iterate, without having seen his goals from the other night, last season for us his goals consisted of 1 tap-in from 2 yards, 1 slot through Cudicini's legs (which he almost fucked up) and 5 shots that 99/100 would've gone a mile over the bar. He is *not* some fantastic finisher; he is similar to Okocha in some ways, when they shoot they either score a fantastic looking goal or balloon it out of the ground/horribly wide/whatever.

Seriously man, give it up.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Oh come on. It was an exhibition match.

Camara's record in the French league wasn't exactly astonishing either. It was fairly average. In Angel and Kezman's case, they are quality players with good records elsewhere who didn't settle in right away. Kezman's record in Serbia and Holland is astonishing, he just needs a break.

I don't think you've seen Camara player apart from a few MOTD highlights and that exhibition game. He's horrible.

[Dazz]

He scored 14 goals in the season in the French league, not bad IMO, yes not astonishing, but not bad. The point I am making is that you would make him sound like he has the finishing of Robert Fleck, which isn't the case.

And MMM, he scored two in the match Vs Sweden I think.

[aenima]

ahahaha, are you lot still going on about Camara?

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Dazz will get you involved in a ridiculous arguement some day. I guarantee it.

I know he hasn't seen Camara play now. I'm a better finisher than him. Just a pity I'm white and fat.

[Dazz]

I have seen Camara play, I still find it hard to believe that we are talking about the same Camara the way you go on about him. You would love the Rajah sports thread, he has some fans there, you could spend a while arguing about him there too.

I don't believe you are a better finisher, and until you show ample proof, you sir, are a liar.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

No way Dazz, you haven't seen him play much. Anyone who claims he is good should be having a little word with themselves. I've seen the thread at Rajah, and people say Camara is shite, also.

14 goals in the French league is crap, by the way. Even Stephane Gui'varch got more than that.

[Dazz]

Not everyone, JPKEngland, MMH, The Hamburlgar, and thats just from looking at the otp of the previous page. To say he is one of the worst players to ever play at Premiership level is something that no one agrees with.

14 goals in any league isn't crap, it's not overly impressive in the French league, but how the fuck can he not finish when he scores 14 for them, 7 for wolves, 1 (in like 2 games for Southampton) and I dunno how many at international level, probably not many, but he can clearly finish the ball, you fucking cretin. And we are not talking little tap ins where the rest of the team do the work to provide him with an easy spoon-fed finish either, as you'd say, 'wise you up'.

[Rob Ban Fan]

Camara played badly for one team, MMM won't admit he played well for them as he fucked around at the end of the season, it's what being biased and sticking up for your own team is all about. A good example of which is after the Pompey Vs Chelsea game on Deceber 28th, me, my dad and a few of his mates went to it, and in a pub with Pompey fans after the match, we were talking to some of them whilst the SOuthampton Liverpool match was on and they were going "Southampton will go down, Redknapp's too shit too keep them up" Honest to god, Pompey fans were caling Redknapp shit. Because they are bitter, MMM would love to have Camara playing for Wolves if he didn't critisize the club and pretty much say he'd never play for them again because they are not good enough, and when they are currently 17th in the Championship you can surely see where he is coming from, he deserves better them then.

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">It isn't just a case of Adam being bitter about it, he was aweful before Wolves were down and his finishing was terrible. I have no reason to be bitter about him, so take it from me, he was bad. It wasn't a case of him not getting into positions to score, it was a case of him not being able to put the ball in the net.

and Redknapp's best skill is in the transfer market and he hasn't signed anyone particularly great. Look at their run in and look at who they've got at home and away. They'll need to start winning away if they want to stay up. Next go and look at Redknapp's record away from home in the Premiership with Portsmouth and West Ham. He doesn't have a clue away from home and thats not bitterness.</font>

[Dazz]

See Owen, you bitter, bitter person, if I had MSN chat logs on this PC, I'd dig up the thing you said about how you wouldn't replace Arry and Jim with anyone, even if you were given the choice to have anyone in the world.

And you always have a gay opinion on De Zeuuw, so I do not wish to 'take it from you'

[Rob Ban Fan]

<Font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">anyone in the world? I don't remember saying that but anyway. They were good for us and did a lot to get us where we are today and I didn't want them to go but the away form was terrible and a lot of people were questioning it long before he eventually left.

And as for gay opinions on Pompey players, you seem to thikn Matthew Taylor is our best defender, when anyone that knows anything about Portsmouth or has seen Matthew Taylor play in the last season and a half would tell you he's a) always been much better attacking than defending, b) has been shit since he got injured.</font>

[Dazz]

My mate who is a Pompey season ticket holder agreed with me, and he is the only Pompey fan I have asked.

And you definitley did say it, hence why I wish I had the chat log of it.

[Rob Ban Fan]

<Font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">no he didn't. You pasted part of that convo to me and you asked if he was good against Chelsea and he said he was. You said to me he was our best defender.

One good match and best defender are different.

de Zeeuw and Stefanovic are consistantly solid, Matthew Taylor is good sometimes and terrible the rest of the time.

Joe Cole had a decent match when we played you, he's your best player.</font>

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Arguing with Dazz is like being sucked into this inescapable nightmare.

I remember me and him went back and forth on Gilberto. I think he's wonderful, Dazz thinks he is shite. That felt like it went on for about 6 months.

That's when I thought Dazz was the little blonde lad, not the Jew.

[Dazz]

The Duff arguement was better, when you were convinced that Brian Kerr would be the man to know that Duff would rather go to United then Chelsea, I tried to find the football thread on the old boards but that dirty Arab must have deleted it. That's when I thought you were a poof, and I am still not sure if I was wrong with that, considering you called my photo's "cute" You make threads on tea, I'm sure there are other clues if I could be bothered to look through your posts.

And Owen, he is your best defender, he has no competition for that accolade. Anyone who fairly marks Duff out of a game has to be doing something right, and my mate said he was a very good defender, not just in that match, but always has been, and hasn't been worse since his injury.

[Ogen]

Don't class Angel in the same light. He showed how good he is last season. This season thanks to be rushed back from injury because of our tiny squad hes not got on form. Vassell will be back within a week or two and we'll see Angel get better then too.

[Dazz]

I didn't, I said when he first came, players need to settle, once Camara settled he done good. And he was rubbish against Chelsea at the Bridge last season, he missed two of the easiest chances I have seen, you'd have won 3-2 (like you did away :mad: ) had he scored them.

[Danny Electric]

I might be wrong on this and this is my opinion but with the help of Mandaric, Redknapp helped get an average side into the Premiership and kept them there.

[Wengerland]

I don't like Camara, his attitude is shit but if you're going to have one like that at least make sure you've had a decent career to start with. His overall career stats are that he's started 123 games and scored 42 goals, 13 goals in 42 at international level and then in Scotland, a league which is worse than the French one in my view, he scored 8 in 26 starts, which is pretty poor. Now he's come out today criticising Martin O'Neill (making him a fucking twat from my point of view anyway) by saying he didn't have a chance at Celtic :|

Matty Taylor was awesome as a wing back in 02/03 but i wouldn't consider him to be the best defensively, that year they were pretty attacking anyway. Whenever i've been speaking to Owen after a match he's never been like 'Matty had .... in his pocket'.

[Dazz]

Thats because Owen doesn't appreciate him, maybe he should go to a team that would. The new Portsmouth only features Greek's anyway, hence their hurry to shaft as many players as they could out in January. You wait till August, they will go one better then Arsenal, and field a team of only Greek's, and not just non Englishmen.

Stats don't count anyway, I really couldn't give a shit how many goals he scored in how many games, as long as he tries, and looks good then thats fine. He is a good player, ECG would have you believe that he isn't good enough for Accrington Stanley.

[Rob Ban Fan]

I might be wrong on this and this is my opinion but with the help of Mandaric, Redknapp helped get an average side into the Premiership and kept them there.

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">Don't get me wrong, I dislike him for lying to us and going to Southampton but im taking nothing away from him getting us up and I don't think any Pompey fan, deep down would. But away from home in the Premiership he was shocking, Div 1 was spot on though.

And Dazz, I do appreciate Matty Taylor and 2 seasons ago before he got injured he was shit hot but even then he was poor defensivly and much better going forward, by his own admission. Now he's lost his ability to skin people so he's not so great going forward and he often makes errors defensivly.

Believe me when I say, our best defender is Dejan Stefanovic.</font>

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Stats don't count anyway, I really couldn't give a shit how many goals he scored in how many games, as long as he tries, and looks good then thats fine.

Get the fuck out of here with that shit. Scoring goals is his JOB, if he doesn't do it he has little to no use.

[Dazz]

Hey Adam, I shall not, I shall not be moved, I'm staying here. Yes it's his job but if his overall game is good enough then who are we to beef.

I'd take Kezman over Gudjohnsen any day, because his style ofplay is better and he tries harder and has much better ability. I'd say thats just me, but in this case, ECG loves Diouf, yet his goal scoring record is as horrid as they come.

Strikers who don't score aren't doing whats asked of them, but as long as they contibute well I have no problem with them.

[Dazz]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">

Believe me when I say, our best defender is Dejan Stefanovic.</font>

As long as you are aware that it isn't De Zeeuw

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Hey Adam, I shall not, I shall not be moved, I'm staying here. Yes it's his job but if his overall game is good enough then who are we to beef.

I'd take Kezman over Gudjohnsen any day, because his style ofplay is better and he tries harder and has much better ability. I'd say thats just me, but in this case, ECG loves Diouf, yet his goal scoring record is as horrid as they come.

Strikers who don't score aren't doing whats asked of them, but as long as they contibute well I have no problem with them.

Kezman has a phenomenal scoring record elsewhere, his ability isn't in question. Camara has never been a proven goalscorer. Big difference.

[Rob]

All this arguing over Henri Camera? Face it, the guy is pants. The guy choked at Celtic and it's that simple. Even Southampton are too good for him. He'll do ok at Reading or Northampton.



I'd take Kezman over Gudjohnsen any day, because his style ofplay is better and he tries harder and has much better ability. I'd say thats just me, but in this case, ECG loves Diouf, yet his goal scoring record is as horrid as they come.

I'd take Gudjohnsen. I like strikers who can actually score a goal.

[Dazz]

Well, You'd also cheer if Forlan scored against ManYoo so I'm hardly bothered who you'd take, Rob.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

I think Diouf is a quality player because he brings a lot more to a team than goalscoring. He has never been a prolific scorer, but he is such a handful for a defence when he's playing with confidence. He's quick, skillful and very strong. He ran Arsenal utterly ragged pretty much on his own a few weeks back, and set up the only goal with a brilliant cross.

I thought he was great for Liverpool on the wings last season. Very underrated player, and I expect a lot of Liverpool fans might agree with me.

[Danny Electric]

I love Diouf, I wish we got him back off his loan spell in the Jan' Window. He runs for every ball and he's always trying to create something for the team.
Remember that this is a player who tore apart the France squad in the 2002 World Cup.

[Dazz]

Bolton are apparently going to bid for him in the summer, chin up Danny, he is too Un-Spanish like to play for you, other then being a chronic diver that is.

[Danny Electric]

Yeah, I read that in The Sun today. I wonder how much we'll get for him, not the 10 mill we brought him for. That's for sure, it's a shame because he has so much potential.

[Dazz]

Especially as he has taken his own price tag down by constantly disgracing himself.

[Danny Electric]

Yeah, he has a bad reputation after some of the shit he's done with all that spitting nonsense.

[Dazz]

exactly, I really can't see you getting more then 4-5million up front, and then maybe like 2 million dependant on some stuff.

[Danny Electric]

I was thinking about 5 mill.I'd like to see him stay, better than Nunez any day of the week.
Plus the way Kewell has been playing, he's better than him too.

[Dazz]

I haven't seen enough of Liverpool to decide this season, thats the trouble with uni, I get behind with watching football often, all I know about you lot is what my Liverpool supporting mates say, which in this case is that Nunez has been better this calender year then he was last calender year and seems to be settling in better. I will be able to see for myself what the teams like next week in person.

Carragher's dad is banned from the game, he is banned from all Great Brittish football stadiums for being pised out his face and causing trouble at the last England game or something.

[Danny Electric]

:D What a legend.
From what I've seen of Nunez he has been a disapointment but as you said he needs time to settle in after his injury.

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">Nunez has looked terrible whenever ive seen him. No pace and his crossing was poor. He kept slicing his crosses out for goalkicks.

But as you say, maybe he needs to settle in or was just having a bad game when I saw him.</font>

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Without wanting to offend Dazz again, Nunez is genuinely shite. He's about 26 and has been a reserve his whole career. Pretty sure the only thing he has done of note since Christmas is get sent off against Burnley for being ridiculous.

There was talk of Liverpool trying to get Juanfran as part of that deal, and he is a real quality player and a potential star.

[Wengerland]

Bergkamp sent off, Fabregas should have been and Sheff Utd have had a fine goal disallowed. 0-0 at half time but Arsenal haven't looked good at all.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Why should Fabregas have been sent off?

It wasn't that bad a tackle.

[Wengerland]

What, so you'd be happy for him just to have been booked if Montgomery's standing leg hadn't moved and he'd have broke his leg?

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">how old is Juan Fran? Am I thinking about a different one to the one you're talking about? :$

and Fabregas' challenge looked nasty, the way he caught his standing leg after he went through wasn't nice.

The Bergkamp sending off and the disallowed goal were a joke though.</font>

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">okay, I just went and checked myself and I was thinking of the former Celta Vigo Juan Fran who is like 29.

I didn't know about the one you were talking about. Just read on UEFA.com that he's Figo's understudy, 20 years old and a regular in the reserves, just extended his contract to 2008.</font>

[Wengerland]

-edit-

Just saw you've got the info on him :(

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">yeah, my bad. Didn't really make sense now that I think about it since he played for Celta Vigo and Nunez came from Madrid. Oh well.

Alls well that ends well eh? :'(</font>

[El Capitano Gatisto]

What, so you'd be happy for him just to have been booked if Montgomery's standing leg hadn't moved and he'd have broke his leg?
Mark Bright is full of shit.

It was just a late tackle, his trailing leg caught him. There are tackles as bad as that every week. He dived in to get the ball (clearly he went for the ball with his leading foot) and Montgomery just nicked it away from him.

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">well yeah, I didnt think there was any intent on Fabregas' part, it was just late and looked bad with the way he went through him with momentum.

And to be fair, you're right there are bad challenges like that all the time. There was that one in I think the Spurs vs Man City match on I think SWP which looked really nasty but didn't do any damage.</font>

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Any time a player slides in at full pace they have the potential to injure an opposition player, intentionally or not.

I think tackle where a player comes in high, above the ankle, are the worst, whether they be two-footed or just the one, and they seem to cause the most injuries. Like Lucas Neill on Jamie Carragher last season, I think.

[Wengerland]

I'm pretty sure players have been sent off for lesser tackles all the same. Fabregas didn't particularly go up to apologise.

[Wengerland]

Arsenal have just scored through Pires. Paddy Kenny was pretty unlucky there, he's made quite a few good saves second half.

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">well yeah, im not saying it was dirty. He was honestly going for the ball and it was flicked away from him but he'd committed himself. It just looked nasty.

Mistimed but not dirty.</font>

[toxic rooster]

It was still a shit tackle.

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">cooly taken penalty</font>

[Cactus Sid]

As a Liverpool fan I've gotta say 2 things

Nunez is shite, he is done nothing. He is slow, his crosses are poor and when you look at his face, he doesn't have a clue what to do next. The only good thing about him is that he's fairly good in the air, but thats about it.

Diouf IS class. When we played him on the wing he gave us genuine width, when we played Blackburn in the League Cup he was absolutely magnificent, he had 2 real problems, and they were consistency and his attitude. If he can sort his attitude out, he could become a truly world class player.

Also, I tore my calf playing football last night...... most painful injury I've ever had, anyone who does it professionally has my absolute sympathy from now on.

[Dazz]

Without wanting to offend Dazz again, Nunez is genuinely shite. He's about 26 and has been a reserve his whole career. Pretty sure the only thing he has done of note since Christmas is get sent off against Burnley for being ridiculous.


Again? :rofl: Keep it real buddy.

I haven't seen enough of him to comment, I have just heard he has been better this year form a mate, I never said it myself.

Point is, Arsenal are shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well, it's not the point but Pires is a cunt and the sooner his legs are broken the sooner I get to laugh at him.

[toxic rooster]

Also, I tore my calf playing football last night...... most painful injury I've ever had, anyone who does it professionally has my absolute sympathy from now on.

:(

Yeah, calf injuries are my number one fear playing football, I went out there today and they were hell tight, even after rubbing vast amounts of deep heat into them.

What's the story with recovery/physio etc.

[Dazz]

Deep heat is shit, I wouldn't use it personally, I am no Dr like Gatesy, but from my understanding it eases the pain at the time but it makes you feel you have stretched the muscle properley before playing, which isnt the actual case. So it makes it worse afterwards, once the deep heat has worn off.

[Cactus Sid]

Not really sure what's gonna happen right now, gotta get back to the physio at the hospital some time next week, it looked really horrible at the time, cos the muscle kinda stuck out like it was a broken leg, everything's a bit of a blur, cos they've stuffed me full of drugs :)

[Cactus Sid]

Also what I do remember is being pretty stupid, I hammered a shot with my left foot and felt it tighten, but then it was fine, then I dived in for a ball with the keeper, got the touch, collided with the keeper, and then couldn't get up, got helped off and taken to hospital, they did some manipulation, I think that's about it.

[toxic rooster]

I get real paranoid now when I play because my left leg cramps much more than it should. One day I'm gonna do something major to it :(

[Danny Electric]

Oh and Henri Camara has scored. :shifty:

[Cactus Sid]

Just make sure its warm, when you warm up make sure you wear something that covers your whole leg and always stretch your calf as much as possible, especially if you feel it every now and again.

[Cactus Sid]

Oh and Henri Camara has scored. :shifty:

Yes. There will be much "joy" from everyone who "loves" reading the "how good is Camara" argument :mad:

[Cactus Sid]

Henri Camara will never score 2 easier goals

:-\

[Cactus Sid]

COME ON BRENTFORD

2-1

[Wengerland]

Balls, it was all going so well until we had to defend a simple ball in to the box.

[Dazz]

Come on Roman, get out your Chequebook! Camara will be snapped up in no time.


That was a joke, folks. On a serious note, Camara is massivley underrated. Scoring today doesn't mean he is any better the I have said he is, but it shows he can finish a ball, and isn't as bad as ECG would make believe.

[Cactus Sid]

Judging by what Le Tiss was saying, anyone could finish the goals he scored.

[Dazz]

Don't wanna hear it, he can still finish the ball, ECG would make you believe that he is such a spastic he'd either miss the ball, not give it enough power, or shoot wide/over.

[Danny Electric]

Only thing I'm going to say is that a goal is a goal, they all have to get in the net somehow.
That is probably the worst comment of the day too.

[Dazz]

Yeah I hate people that say that, because someone can score a goal doesn't mean they are good. In Camara's case, he scores enough to prove he can finish the ball.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Deep heat is shit, I wouldn't use it personally, I am no Dr like Gatesy, but from my understanding it eases the pain at the time but it makes you feel you have stretched the muscle properley before playing, which isnt the actual case. So it makes it worse afterwards, once the deep heat has worn off.
It's just a local anasthetic. It doesn't help heal at all, just numbs the pain.

[Dazz]

Yeah that's what I meant, it eases the pain, you can't tell if it is stretched properley but you think it is because well, you can't feel it, yet once the deep heat wears off, it's worse then it was before as you have just played again without stretching it.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Well, I suppose, but even stretching a sore muscle will make it feel worse. People just use it to make their legs feel warmer, which it does, but it doesn't really replace stretching.

I think I tend to injure myself more stretching than I ever do in an actual match, though.

[Wengerland]

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YES, GET IN THERE DION :love: :heart:

WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Dazz]

Thought you'd have learnt the art of stretching by now, I don't recall ever hurting myself in a warm up, because I am not a spastic.

[Cactus Sid]

BRENTFORD :love:

[El Capitano Gatisto]

I'm not a big fan of stretching. I think it's good to warm up with a bit of running and jumping about, but I'm not sold on the benefits of a stretch. Maybe if it's really cold outside, a bit of medium stretching to loosen the muscles up, but not too much.

[Dazz]

I wear cycling shorts for all games anyways. But I really stretch lots, because I have this fear of if I make a sliding tackle and miss, then it will hurt my hamstring as it will extend too much. I run around abit then spend like fifteen minutes stretching, and have never pulled a muscle or felt my muscles sore due to lack of stretching the next day.

[The Answer]

*Spoiler*Man U currently ahead of Everton 1-0 in FA cup action.A beautiful move by Cristiano Ronaldo on Kevin Kilbane than a nice cross that was finished by Quinton Fortune.

[The Mask]

RONALDO WOOOOOOO

[The Answer]

RONALDO WOOOOOOO

*Spoiler* Paul Scholes free kick stopped by Nigel Martin but the rebound goes to who else Cristiano Ronaldo who buries it. 2-0 Man U :y: :y:

[The Answer]

Everton fan just clocked Man U keeper Roy Carrol with either a coin or a phone. You have to love soccer fans so passionate :rofl:

[Cactus Sid]

Is it just me or is John Motson the worst commentator in Football?

I try to remain as neutral as possible these days, ok, I hate United, I hate Everton, I hate other teams, but when they play well I give them their due, and if people just mindlessly have a go, I will stand up for teams that do well.

I am not having a go at Man Utd here, but John Motson is the most biased commentator I have ever heard. He practically had an orgasm when Roy Keane picked the ball up completely unmarked on his 18 yard line. Every time Ronaldo gets the ball it sounds like he's struggling to contain his hard on, and everytime Rooney had a shot, he was willing it into the net.

This isn't the first time either. I'm sure I'm not the only one who's noticed this.

Anyway, props to United, they were fanastic, Everton were awful. Second goal was lucky, but at the end of the day, it could have been 5 anyway.

The way Everton played today makes me a little bit more confident about our chances of 4th.

[The Mask]

I think that was Motson momentarily thinking keane was attacking :lol:

another gem was: "in the last 16 premiership games they have won 14 and drawn 3"

[Cactus Sid]

It says a lot when the BBC's best commentator quits because of him.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Mark Bright is full of shit.

You must spread some reputation around before giving it to El Capitano Gatisto again.

:'(

(:love: )

That was a joke, folks. On a serious note, Camara is massivley underrated. Scoring today doesn't mean he is any better the I have said he is, but it shows he can finish a ball, and isn't as bad as ECG would make believe.

Two tapins against Brentford proves exactly fuck all. Plus from the radio commentary I listened to in the afternoon he sliced or spooned at least 2-3 other chances horribly, AND got caught offside when Phillips had the ball in the net right at the death, denying Southampton a winner. Wonderful.

Also, Sid :'( :wavesad:

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">2 tap ins to an empty net and he was offside for the 2nd one anyway.

Oh well.</font>

[Cactus Sid]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">2 tap ins to an empty net and he was offside for the 2nd one anyway.

Oh well.</font>

To be fair, they should've won, as that goal in the last minute should've stood, but ah well, the bastards deserve all the bad things they get.

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">yep, fair comment, completly true. They SHOULD have won shouldnt they.

:cool:


;)</font>

[Wengerland]

Looked like we battered Charlton, great away support aswell. To be fair to the Charlton fans they clapped us off and have been complimentary on the message boards i've checked.

I'm just split on team selection now, i'm not a fan of 4-5-1 but (apart from 5-3-2) that's the only way of getting a balanced team including Hughes and Williams. On the other side of it though, Connolly is the man and he was only on the bench today.

[yianni]

*Spoiler* Paul Scholes free kick stopped by Nigel Martin but the rebound goes to who else Cristiano Ronaldo who buries it. 2-0 Man U :y: :y:
The cunt who threw it is fucked now, cos one of the camera angles caught him throwing it at Carroll. Good riddance to a piece of shit, that sort of thing shouldn't happen in football (even though it does in alot of leagues around the world :'()

[The Mackem]

Lost ground yesterday away at Brighton :'(

[yianni]

I hear Leeds copped a 0-3 scoreline yesterday. :'(

[toxic rooster]

They were against wigan though, which is understandable.

[yianni]

How does the Championship system work again? The top 2 teams get promoted to the Premier League whilst 3-6 play off for the final spot? Or am I completely off the mark? :o

[toxic rooster]

Yeah I'm pretty sure that's it, Wengerland or MMM would know for sure though.

Also Rangers are 2-0 up away at Celtic

[Wengerland]

Yeah that's the one, top two up automatically then there's the play offs. Whoever finishes 3rd play the team who finish 6th, 4th vs 5th and then the winners over 2 legs go through to the final.

0-0 at half time in the Burnley-Blackburn game.

[toxic rooster]

Rangers held on, and apparently Ricksen's been hit with something. Here we go again :|

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Real Madrid and England star David Beckham has become a father for the third time after his wife, Victoria, gave birth to the couple's third son.

The latest addition to the family, to be named Cruz, arrived by caesarean section. The news will cheer the former Manchester United star after Real slumped to a 2-0 defeat by Atletico Bilbao on Saturday.

-----

Cruz :|:|:|

Also, good news for Man U as Shevchenko fractured his cheekbone yesterday and will miss the Champions League game this coming week.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Rangers held on, and apparently Ricksen's been hit with something. Here we go again :|

Not quite, no way is it the first instance of a player being hit with something in an Old Firm game, it almost never happens in a regular English league game or cup tie which is why the Everton game yesterday was unusual.

[yianni]

Rangers held on, and apparently Ricksen's been hit with something. Here we go again :|
:nono: @ both Ricksen getting hit and the scoreline. :'(

[toxic rooster]

Never said it was a first, but point taken.

[Rob]

Well, You'd also cheer if Forlan scored against ManYoo so I'm hardly bothered who you'd take, Rob.

How come you get so wound up by anything I say then?

[Cactus Sid]

LOL PITCH INVASION

On the Henri Camara thing, just started doing the 2006 World Cup, Senegal got drawn with Spain, Mexico and Costa Rica, Group C, first game Spain vs Costa Rica, second game Senegal vs Mexico.

Camara scored a hat-trick.....he's top scorer in the compeition at the moment.

-EDIT- That's on Pro Evo btw

[Rob]

That geezer on the Blackburn game who went to have a square go with Savage was hilarious. Swinging at the police :lol:

[toxic rooster]

In other news, Newcastle are up 1-0 against Chelsea. COME ON YOU BARCODES

[Mr. Monday Morning]

-EDIT- That's on Pro Evo btw

I :love: Master League. I now have a front 3 of Shevchenko and Adriano with Ronaldinho in behind :love:

[Cactus Sid]

All 3 of them are playing in my world cup.

Ukraine were playing Germany in the opening match, Huth got sent off after 14 minutes, Germany held on until the 89th minute when Gusev scored for the Ukraine, gutting the home fans.

Brazil played Czech Republic, went 1-0 up after 1 minute thanks to a dink Ronaldinho ball and an Adriano chip, but lost 2-1 cos of an own goal by Roberto Carlos in injury time. Loving this World Cup, China almost beat Italy.

[The Answer]

Shearer with a tackle on Wayne Bridge takes him out of the game(fell awkardly on his leg) Chelsea reduced to 10 men no subs left.

UPDATE: Broken Ankle for Wayne Bridge

[Rob]

UPDARE: Mourinho is a moron.

Who makes 3 subs at half time especially when there is snow?

[LK]

Don't look like Chelsea are getting all four trophies at the moment.

Then again Titus Bramble is playing so there is still a chance.

[The Answer]

Damien Duff is hurt to. I like Barcelona's chances wednesday

[Cactus Sid]

Ranieri got sacked for less than what Mourinho did today, granted, that was in the Champions League and not the FA Cup, but even so.

[toxic rooster]

Cudicini got sent off, had Johnson playing in goal to end the game

[Cactus Sid]

Then again Titus Bramble is playing so there is still a chance.

Man Of The Match in my opinion, he was awesome.

[LK]

Bit of a harsh sending off

[toxic rooster]

last man

[Y2Ant]

DARREN MANTLE WHATS THE SCORE

AHAHAHAHAHA

[aenima]

Tremendous.

Can't help but feel sorry for Mourinho. His wife is going to get an angry shag tonight, I expect.

Jenas was surprisingly shit, as was Boumsong. Dyer was playing like a disabled, but you've come to expect that from him. Decent enough performance from the rest of the team, though.

[Y2Ant]

Brilliant save by Johnson at the end there too :cool:

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Ranieri got sacked for less than what Mourinho did today, granted, that was in the Champions League and not the FA Cup, but even so.

He wasn't in a strong position to win the league and the league cup though.

[Y2Ant]

I bet you we get Man United or Arsenal in the next round :(

[Cactus Sid]

He wasn't in a strong position to win the league and the league cup though.

The league was hardly Ranieri's fault after Arsenal's season, and who knows what'll happen on Sunday. In all my years as a Liverpool fan I've only seen them lose 1 cup final.

[Ricky]

That geezer on the Blackburn game who went to have a square go with Savage was hilarious. Swinging at the police :lol:
LOL I can't believe he actually seemed to think he had a chance of getting away. :lol:

[Mr. Monday Morning]

The league was hardly Ranieri's fault after Arsenal's season, and who knows what'll happen on Sunday. In all my years as a Liverpool fan I've only seen them lose 1 cup final.

I know. Hell, we all know the real reason Ranieri was sacked was so they could hire Mourinho. But I still don't think you can say what Ranieri did in Monaco was "less" than what Mourinho did today. Today was a one-off cup tie (not counting a replay) which is at best 3rd in Chelsea's list of priorities. Last year was Chelsea's best chance of winning something, not just the fact it was the Champions League, and the 1st of a 2-legged tie. However reckless Mourinho was today Ranieri was moreso by throwing away Chelsea's best chance of a trophy.

[Cactus Sid]

I see your point, but at the end of today, Chelsea are out of a cup, with numerous injuries coming out of the game. Duff's condition, whatever it turns out to be, was made worse by staying on the pitch. As Rob said, bringing on 3 players at half time, when its snowing and your playing against players who do have a tendency to be a bit reckless in their challenges at times, your just asking for trouble. While Ranieri was tactically inept against Monaco, Mourinho today was not only tactically inept, but showed a complete disregard for the welfare of his players, who he supposedly has a great relationship. Granted, there is a huge difference between the Champions League and the FA Cup (and I can't say much after what Rafa did) but today Mourinho made some truly awful decisions, and in my opinion, they were worse than Ranieri's.

[Dazz]

UPDARE: Mourinho is a moron.

Who makes 3 subs at half time especially when there is snow?

Oh fuck off you complete and utter cretin, your other comments of late hasn't wound me up like you claim, but this has. Get a clue, you fucking tit. The cup is a knockout competition, right? Goal difference doesn't matter and changes had to be made, Joe Cole was great Vs Everton last week, but shit today, Tiago is fucking horsewank and we all know what a laughing stock Geremi is. Nuts to the snow, it wasn't setting, it was just blowing about. Changes had to be made and everyone with half a clue (well, excluding ECG, RBF and MMM who have been abit off as late) Will tell you the three people that should have come on, we did the best thing we could of, I think Jose was 100% right with everything he did today, except he should have spat on Shearer when he was subbed, the fucking cunt.

Hindsight is wonderful, isn't it, he took a gamble and it didn't work, Bridge is bollocks anyway, so I wasn't in the slightest sad to see him go off.

Defensivley we had a fucking great side out, second best keeper in the league, and the best defence we could have fielded bar Ferreira, Kezman is our best fit attacker and our midfield matched Newcastl'es in the first half, and was better in the second half.

I'm bloody proud of Chelsea today, I went to the game and it was fantastic, forgetting the score, it was a brilliant day out. The Geordies are magnificent, except only their fans near us were singing, the rest did about once all game, I was expecting better. Best stadium in England, really beautiful view and I'd love to go there again.

No complaints, I'd have done nothing different, they weren't better then us, they just took one of there chances.

As for Johnson, "CHELSEA'S, NUMBER ONE, CHELSEA'S CHELSEA'S NUMBER ONE"


Ranieri got sacked for less than what Mourinho did today, granted, that was in the Champions League and not the FA Cup, but even so.

What the fuck did Mourinho do today??!! He did everything right, 100% right, he is the fucking man and I refuse to even say anything bad about him. Ranieri got sacked because he buckles under pressure and never looked like landing us a trophy, we'd get far then fuck up.

Fair play Newcastle, I hope you win it now, I'd love for the Arse and United to meet in the next round, and Highbury preferably, and the winner to play Newcastle in the final.

On the plus side, I just gotted in half hour ago, late enough to avoid Y2ANT on MSN, :cool:.

[Dazz]

I know. Hell, we all know the real reason Ranieri was sacked was so they could hire Mourinho. But I still don't think you can say what Ranieri did in Monaco was "less" than what Mourinho did today. Today was a one-off cup tie (not counting a replay) which is at best 3rd in Chelsea's list of priorities. Last year was Chelsea's best chance of winning something, not just the fact it was the Champions League, and the 1st of a 2-legged tie. However reckless Mourinho was today Ranieri was moreso by throwing away Chelsea's best chance of a trophy.

The F.A cup is fourth in the prioties in my view, and Ranieri stuck Veron on at left mid, and generally always ballsed things up at the most innapropriate of times.

CCCCCCCAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRREEEEEEEEEEEEE FREEEEEE, WHEREEVER YOU MAY BE,
WE ARE THE FAMOUS CFC
AND WE DON'T GIVE A FUCK
WHOEVER YOU MAY BE
COZ WE ARE THE FAMOUS CFC

[toxic rooster]

Dry your eyes mate

[Dazz]

DARREN MANTLE WHATS THE SCORE

AHAHAHAHAHA

The score was one-nil.

Fuck :'(.

[Dazz]

Dry your eyes mate

lol, I hadn't seen your post when I replied to Y2ANT


On another note, this is what makes St James' Park so great, just look at the view I had:

http://img144.exs.cx/img144/807/park6os.th.jpg (http://img144.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img144&image=park6os.jpg)

[yianni]

lol @ Mourinho going to shake Souness' hand even with about a minute left in injury time, and Souness motioning to him that 'it's not over yet'. :lol: Mourinho what a funny cunt. I have to say though I was pretty surprised at him making the three substitutions at the start of the second half, it's pretty uncommon. Well I haven't seen it done alot anyway.

[Dazz]

Had to be done, it really did have to be done.

[Wengerland]

In hindsight it didn't pay off but the only error he made was probably bringing all 3 on so soon, but i've done that a few times on champ manager if i've been frustrated. The intent was to get Chelsea back into the game though, so he should be commended for that, he took a risk and it didn't pay off but that's all really and, after all, they're clear at the top of the league and still in the other cups.

ROFL @ Martin Tyler's reaction when Johnson saved the free kick :'(

[Wengerland]

FA Cup Quarter final draw:

Newcastle vs Spurs or Forest
Southampton or Brentford vs Man Utd
Bolton vs Arsenal or Sheff Utd
Burnley or Blackburn vs Leicester

That'll do nicely :cool:

[Ogen]

Shite quater finals

[Rob]

Mantle = :lol:

[Rob]

Noticed that Forlan fella scored again last night

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">I agree with Dazz to be honest.

Yes, putting 3 subs on was a gamble and it didn't pay off but Mourinho wanted to progress so he chucked on his "big guns" with plenty of time left. Had they gone on to come from behind and win as a result people would probably have praised him. Had he waited until 70-80 minutes or so before bringing them on and they'd still lost, people would probably ask "why didn't they come on sooner?". As Dazz said, hindsight is a wonderful thing.

You don't often finish a match with your keeper sent off, a player stretchered off injured and two other players limping, Chelsea's luck just went against them yesterday in that respect.

Calling him a moron is a bit harsh considering how well Chelsea are doing and what he managed at Porto :$</font>

[Rob]

Agree with him if you like. That's fine. It's a matter of opinion. My opinion is that making 3 subs with 45 mins of football to play when the conditions are far from perfect and when you are a goal down isn't the smartest move. They could have gone all out for the first 15 of the second half and then made 3 subs. Or they could have made 1 or 2 and kept a 3rd for later. It was a gamble and it didn't pay off.

You might not finish matches with that many injuries but injuries are a frequent occurance in football. It's my opinion that going a complete 45mins when you might need to make tactical changes with any possible back up plan is not bright.

I'm just a complete and utter cretin though so what do I know?

[Dazz]

I'll tell you what you know, and thats fuck all by the sounds of it, you said

"My opinion is that making 3 subs with 45 mins of football to play when the conditions are far from perfect and when you are a goal down isn't the smartest move."

The first part makes sense, kinda, the last part makes no sense at all, you're saying that when oyur losing you dont make three substitutions??!! Fuck off.

[Dazz]

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Dazz, <b>aenima, El Capitano Gatisto,</b> Rob Ban Fan+

Well, you might not be the same person, but seriously, are you ever online without each other.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

It's a cup game, Chelsea were playing poorly and Mourinho wanted to make a change. In a cup game, especially away from home, you may as well lose 6-0 as lose 1-0, so Mourinho went for it. He wanted a positive response from his team. A draw was no good, he wanted a team that could go out there and score at least 2 goals and win the match, or go down trying.

He made the right changes, and whether it be at half time or 15 minutes into the half, doesn't really matter. You cannot legislate for red cards and serious injuries, and you should base how you plan your tactics based on the fear that you might get an injury.

[Dazz]

Changes had to be made and everyone with half a clue (well, excluding ECG, RBF and MMM who have been abit off as late) Will tell you the three people that should have come on, we did the best thing we could of, I think Jose was 100% right with everything he did today

I guess you and RBF have proved that the Camara comments are just a one off. Glad it is only Rob and Sid that didn't see sense.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

:rant:

[El Capitano Gatisto]

The Camara comments weren't a one off. The one off part is that you were right (about Mourinho), for once, Mantle.

[Dazz]

I am shocked and appaulled, I was right about our hard run in at the end of the season. <s>I was right that Germany would win Euro 2004 </s> I am often right, I could search this thread and find out how many times I have been right, and I bet it is to a higher ratio then you. As it happens, I think we all have better things to do then search the thread and find out. Well, RBF has nothing better to do, he never goes out, bless him.

[Dazz]

I still don't think you are right about Ferdinand, but I definitley see why we spent £19.85 million in the summer on Riccy Carvalho, he was our best player yesterday and has been superb all season, you were right on that one, Gatesy.

[The Mask]

I'd have thought changing two players would've been enough and then if it was still going tits up later, adding another. I understand the need to attack but you're fucking nuts to even risk that kind of thing.

[Rob Ban Fan]

I am shocked and appaulled, I was right about our hard run in at the end of the season. <s>I was right that Germany would win Euro 2004 </s> I am often right, I could search this thread and find out how many times I have been right, and I bet it is to a higher ratio then you. As it happens, I think we all have better things to do then search the thread and find out. Well, RBF has nothing better to do, he never goes out, bless him.

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">Its funny you should mention that actually because a few weeks ago me and Wengerland read like the first 20 pages of this topic again and you suprisingly made a lot of sense.

Then it hit september and you started talking some bollocks about van Nistelrooy and you slowly went downhill until you hit rock bottom with "Camara is a good finisher."

I think it was probably just a case of you going through a funny patch, hopefully you're over that now and we can just move on.</font>

[Wengerland]

Stoke tonight, and the champions league :cool:

[Mr. Monday Morning]

WTF did you change your name for fool

[Wengerland]

I don't know what you mean :shifty:

Nah, it was because i don't watch wrestling anymore, so it was pointless and i just said a few names to RDD and he picked that one.

[Rob]

I'd have thought changing two players would've been enough and then if it was still going tits up later, adding another. I understand the need to attack but you're fucking nuts to even risk that kind of thing.

You stupid cunt!

Sorry, but since your opinion is different from Mantle's, you are automatically wrong.

[Dazz]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">Its funny you should mention that actually because a few weeks ago me and Wengerland read like the first 20 pages of this topic again and you suprisingly made a lot of sense.

Then it hit september and you started talking some bollocks about van Nistelrooy and you slowly went downhill until you hit rock bottom with "Camara is a good finisher."

I think it was probably just a case of you going through a funny patch, hopefully you're over that now and we can just move on.</font>

My thoughts on the top three are pretty solid eh, I seriously cannot see how people cannot see sense in the RvN arguement, as it happens, we'd go round in circles if it was brought up again.

Point is, I am the man.

[Y2Ant]

Hey up, you made him use the exclamation marks :'(

I fancy us getting to the final if we can avoid United/Arsenal in the semis. :o

(and beat Spurs/Forest of course :shifty: )

[Cactus Sid]

LUIS GARCIA :love:

[toxic rooster]

We're down 1-0 at the moment, apparently Toure made a howler :(.

In other news, ESPN's live text commentary :nono:

"Nine Arsenal players are wearing gloves, compared to only four from Bayern. Does that tell us anything about the respective sides? No, perhaps not."

[toxic rooster]

"Hey Bobby: what is the French for 'Pull your finger out'? It's still early, but Pires really doesn't look very enthusiastic this evening."

[Cactus Sid]

LOL

[Cactus Sid]

Also just gotta say, come on West Brom

[Cactus Sid]

We're down 1-0 at the moment, apparently Toure made a howler :(.



Just thought I'd say, they showed the goal in small during the Liverpool game, I missed Toure's error, but the finish was exceptional from Pizarro.

Berbatov just missed an open goal for Leverkusen, shocking defending by Finnan, we are very lucky boyos.

[toxic rooster]

"GOAL! Horrible mistake from Toure leads to Pizarro slamming home a great volley from the edge of the area. Great start from the home side."

It would have been, it's impossible for a volley from the edge of the area not to be exceptional :'(

[toxic rooster]

Madrid just scored, which means all four home teams are ahead 1-0

[Dazz]

Come on Bayern, I don't care much if Liverpool go through, because their fans aren't cunts

[Dazz]

thats the spirit Riise,get your good free kicks out the way before Sunday

[Cactus Sid]

Come on Bayern, I don't care much if Liverpool go through, because their fans aren't cunts

I hope Chelsea win tomorrow

But I'll be a cunt and say I hope United lose :D

Also.....

EASY! EASY! EASY!

JOHN ARNE RIISE
OOOOH AHHHHH
etc.....

2-0 :love: :love: :love:

[toxic rooster]

Nedved's been taken off injured

[toxic rooster]

As is Edu :( Flamini on

[Cactus Sid]

Nedved's been taken off injured

:'(

Always in the big games

[Cactus Sid]

As it stands, we've gotta get another without conceding, Leverkusen are too good at home for us not to need another.

[Dazz]

I hope Chelsea win on Sunday



:love:

[Cactus Sid]

I wouldn't begrudge you the win

I'll just say what I said before.....in all my years as a Liverpool fan, I've seen us lose 1 cup final.

[Dazz]

In all my years as a Chelsea fan, I have seen us lose two cup finals.

[toxic rooster]

Bastards floored my Freddie :mad:

[Cactus Sid]

In all my years as a Chelsea fan, I have seen us lose two cup finals.

Yeah, but, erm.....

Good Luck on Sunday :y:

[Dazz]

We actually do need luck, injuries galore at the moment. Why people don't take pity on us is beyond me.

Will you be at the match? I am guessing no since you havent said you would be in previous posts.

[toxic rooster]

Bright start to the second half, come on get an away goal. Would be priceless :'(

[Dazz]

:wtf: Bright start my arse, passing football is nothing bright, they have had the best chance so far.

[Dazz]

Fuckign diving twat, get up Pires, you cunt.

[toxic rooster]

what oi've read, Reyes shot into the side netting, Flamini went down on the edge of the area, Pires just missed Henry with a cross and Ljungberg's shot one straight at Kahn. In the first 10 minutes, too

[Dazz]

yes Reyes' shot was the only chance, and he was never going to get anywhere close to scoring it, it wasnt really a chance, he hit it knowing it was never going to go in, but he has no other options.

PIZZARO :LOVE:

[toxic rooster]

Feck, now we definitely need an away goal :mad:

[toxic rooster]

COME ON, CHIN UP

[Cactus Sid]

We actually do need luck, injuries galore at the moment. Why people don't take pity on us is beyond me.

Will you be at the match? I am guessing no since you havent said you would be in previous posts.

Na, that's the problem with living down here, all the Cup games sell to season ticket holders in minutes, so they hardly ever go on general sale, plus, I heard we only got an allocation of about 28,000, so sadly not :(

3-0 to Munich....oh dear.

[Cactus Sid]

Igor Biscan has been fucking amazing tonight

[toxic rooster]

Fucking hell, knew they were gonna react like a bunch of 10 year olds to going 2 down.

CHIN UP CUNTS:mad:

[Dazz]

Gutted Sid, how come you support Pool anyways?

And yes, come on Bayern.

[Cactus Sid]

:( Milan you should've scored

Jamie Carragher off the line :(

[toxic rooster]

fuck it could have been 4. Offside flag saved us

[Cactus Sid]

Gutted Sid, how come you support Pool anyways?


Cos I started liking football when I was about 3 or 4, so I probably started watching during the 89/90 season when we won the title, so basically I'm just a glory supporter whose stuck with them for the last 15 years.

[Cactus Sid]

Fucking hell, 2 amazing saves by Dudek

[Dazz]

Thought as much, it seems like the only logic unless you had relatives up there.

I still doubt alot of United fans our age will follow their team once they become shit. Good on yer :y:

[Cactus Sid]

Oh jeez....Le Tallec

[LK]

3-0 Munich. Not going too well for Arsenal. That twat Lauren should have been sent off as well.

[Ogen]

Yeah shocking tackle from Lauren. Liverpool are ruining my prediction of no English team going through at the moment :mad: Arsenal were shite I'm back on the Pool game now

[Cactus Sid]

Landon Donovan looks like Billy Corgan when he had hair

[Dazz]

Landon Donavon, Champ Man legend.

[Cactus Sid]

Well fucking done Le Tallec :mad: Riise was in you cunt

[Cactus Sid]

Landon Donavon, Champ Man legend.

Scored a hat-trick against Croatia in my Pro Evo World Cup 2006

Potter on for Baros? Oh dear.

[Cactus Sid]

Jeez, didn't realise there was only 5 minutes to go

[Cactus Sid]

VLAD :love: on for Riise :love:

[toxic rooster]

Well that finishes that. Didn't want to accept it before now, but this isn't going to be our season.

Ah well, come on Barca and Milan then.

[toxic rooster]

Toure gives a little hope. Maybe I should give up on Arsenal more often.

[Cactus Sid]

TOURE SCORES 3-1

[Cactus Sid]

DIDI DIDI DIDI DIDI

3-0 COME FUCKING ON

[toxic rooster]

Come on, pull a Norwich. 3-2 would be fantastic right here :'(

[Cactus Sid]

Fuck

Dudek you twat

[Cactus Sid]

So not good now

Ok, they've got 2 players suspended, we'll have Gerrard and maybe Mellor back, but that goal is seriously gonna screw us over in Germany, I can see it now.

Dudek is such a twat

[Rob Ban Fan]

Igor Biscan has been fucking amazing tonight

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">see, i said he was a good player :(

I was listening to the Scum match on BBC Radio Solent. They were by far the better team and should've won.

But they didnt :cool:

West Brom are fucking aweful, no chance of them staying up, at all, never. Robson took off their best player too halfway through the 2nd half :|

Scum created loads of chances but just couldn't finish them. Which is strange what with them having Camara and all.</font>

[Wengerland]

jesus christ, completely outplayed Charlton on saturday and then go and concede 3 at a side who have only scored 20 all season :|

Good job Mr. Levein knows that we need a centre back, and although i like him for his work rate, the number of chances that Connolly misses is really pissing me off now.

[toxic rooster]

We'll give you Cygan.

Go on, take him :mad:

[Wengerland]

We're not that desperate :(

Really frustrated though.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">Scum created loads of chances but just couldn't finish them. Which is strange what with them having Camara and all.</font>

:love:

Unless the Radio 5 reporter was making it up Camara managed to skin the entire scummer defence before firing it over the bar. Shocker.

Good job Mr. Levein knows that we need a centre back, and although i like him for his work rate, the number of chances that Connolly misses is really pissing me off now.

Ahahaha

Ahahaha

Ahaha

Told you so

[Rob Ban Fan]

:love:

Unless the Radio 5 reporter was making it up Camara managed to skin the entire scummer defence before firing it over the bar. Shocker.


<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">pretty much the size of it, just saw it on Sky and he took it round 2 defenders, 6 yards out, just needed to side foot it into the bottom corner and he smacked it high and wide. It was van Nistelrooyesque.</font>

[Wengerland]

Ahahaha

Ahahaha

Ahaha

Told you so

He'll be at his best by *checks fixture list* April 5th :foc:

Either that or he'll have lost his place to de Vries, if we continue with 1 forward :$

Still the man for his work rate, it's just a bit annoying really. Like Dazz's thoughts on Kezman, but he doesn't need to curse Kezman's missed chances because Chelsea tend to win anyway.

[Ogen]

Well Liverpool should be home and dry but Dudek gives them hope. Hes shite

[Mr. Monday Morning]

He'll be at his best by *checks fixture list* April 5th :foc:

Either that or he'll have lost his place to de Vries, if we continue with 1 forward :$

Still the man for his work rate, it's just a bit annoying really. Like Dazz's thoughts on Kezman, but he doesn't need to curse Kezman's missed chances because Chelsea tend to win anyway.

And David Connolly's record in Dutch football isn't better than van Nistelrooy's. Unlike Kezman.

[Wengerland]

He scored 2 goals in a 4-3 win for Feyenoord over Ajax to get them into the champions league :( Not that i'm comparing him to RvN or Kezman but for this division he was alright.

[toxic rooster]

Well Liverpool should be home and dry but Dudek gives them hope. Hes shite

If Leverkusen have hope then so do we

[Cactus Sid]

If Leverkusen have hope then so do we

Arsenal could go through, even with our advantage I can see us going out.

[toxic rooster]

Eternal pessimist, Cactus Sid. Now I know it's wishful thinking, but I'm happy if Arsenal just show up and decide to show a bit of bloody character for a change in the second leg, if they do that I don't care if they do go out. As long as they actually look like they genuinely want to be there

[Danny Electric]

I agree with Sid, Leverkusen still have a schance of going through. At least we have Stevie G back for the second leg and Leverkusen looked quite poor and with their injuries and suspensions we should be able to get through. As long as we put Scott Carson in goal. :)

[Wengerland]

Leverkusen scored 3 in all of their home games in the group stage i think, well i'm sure i heard the commentator say that. I reckon Liverpool will lose on the night but go through.

Arsenal can't defend like they did yesterday, Campbell's also a doubt for the return leg now anyway.

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">ROFL Chelsea

I like Barcelona and everything, they're my favourite Spanish team but im inclined to say Chelsea deserve that, just for Deco's disgraceful [attempted] dive just before the goal.</font>

[Danny Electric]

Yeah, fair play to Chelsea. So far so good.

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">Anders Frisk is a douche. I hope Dazz chucks a coin at his stupid ugly head.

Drogba off.</font>

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Crespo :nono:

[Cactus Sid]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">Anders Frisk is a douche. I hope Dazz chucks a coin at his stupid ugly head.

Drogba off.</font>

That was an absolute disgrace

Anyone see Juninho's free kick for Lyon, absolute class that lad.

Also, Crespo :D

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Roy Carroll is a spastic.

[The Answer]

Roy Carroll is a spastic.

Horrible error at the wrong time.Vitor Baia on they other hand played great today against Inter Milan

[Dazz]

Frisk was alright I thought, apparently he was in the Barca dressing room at half time, or Rjikard was in Frisk's dressing room, one or the other. Either way, Jose apparently said "You won't get away with this, I'm going to report you". And sure enough, we have already lodged a complaint.

If Barca are proven to has influenced officials in any way, then by UEFA's rules they will be chucked out, but we all know that it's not going to happen as it would be bloody hard to prove and UEFA would probably just fine them and be gay.

Also, we really needed Robben, more then anything because Duff and Cole's diving antics weren't going to fool anyone, if someone is going to give Barca a taste of their own medicine then it's Arjen Robben.

[Ogen]

Carrol is a spastic but I'm very thankfull to him have 50 quid on Milan with mates thought I was fecked when Sheva broke his face but Roy saved the day

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">is Robben out for the season or what?

and that Diarra guy that scored for Lyon...is he the one on loan from Liverpool? Whats the deal with him?</font>

[Cactus Sid]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">is Robben out for the season or what?

and that Diarra guy that scored for Lyon...is he the one on loan from Liverpool? Whats the deal with him?</font>

I don't think it is. I'm sure our guy (Alou Diarra) is at some other French club, a smaller one. I'll check.

[Cactus Sid]

Na, the Lyon guy is Mahmadou Diarra, he's a Malian international

Alou Diarra is on loan at Lyon, from what I've heard he's a pretty solid central defender/midfielder, but obviously that means sod all when your french and you come and play for Liverpool.

[Dazz]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">is Robben out for the season or what?

</font>

Till the end of March, btu Bryan something or another is meant to be the man at getting people back quicker, so he may be there mid march.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Riccy C looked a bit poor last night, Mantle, from the highlights.

[Dazz]

It was only the Eto'o thing, thats the worst thing he has done all season, really don't know what he was thinking. I think he was caught out a couple of times in the second half but are defence was generally poor after the sending off, Barca pissed all over us, they brought on two attackers for two midfielders and always had people in space in our box.

You claim to be a Barca fan if anything, so I am suprised you didn't watch the game, Gatesy.

[Doink]

come on boro, 3-0 to us danny graham to come off the bech to score the 3rd, and keep your eye on james morison (providing mclaren doesnt drop him) as he is currently making downing look like yesterdays news!

[Dazz]

With Ferocious banned, no one care about Boro. As it happens, as long as Jimmy scores I'm happy.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

You claim to be a Barca fan if anything, so I am suprised you didn't watch the game, Gatesy.
Yeah I know, but a bunch of lads came down to my house to watch it because I had Sky, and they wanted to see the United match. I didn't mind because I thought the match at Old Trafford might be a more attacking affair.

Watched about 20 mins of the first half in the Chelsea game, switched it on just before Duffer scored. The United game was better then, so we kept it on for the 2nd half.

I made my return to training tonight. Buried the only goal of the training match, great strike into the bottom corner from 20 yards. When I scored it I ran away and pulled off my Ireland top to reveal a white shirt with "Merci Darren Mantle" on it.

Playing in a work league match game tomorrow night too. 2 goals in 3 games for them.

[Dazz]

LOL you would be the fucking man if you ever did that, in training or a real game.

Funny how you called me and Ogen gypsy's, when its you who associates yourself with them, your mates don't even have sky :rofl:.

I wouldn't say Duff scored, I suppose he was the last Chelsea player to touch the ball, but come on. Bellitto made the right choice, take no chances and try and clear it, shame carvalho didn't, and he would have had no chance of turning it into his own net.

I was trying to reassure a Chelsea fan that Chelsea are going through, and want to know if you agree or disagree on the following, I realise you didn't see it all so you might not be able to fully comment:

They were only good atatcking Vs ten men, if we keep 11 on in the replay we will be sorted. Ronaldinho and Eto'o are overrated, they mess up alot and can be hit or miss, our defence is MUCH greater then theres, we will foil them in our own gaff. We need Lampard to be on form, and after the first leg he definitley has alot to prove. Maka is always on form, Duff needs to just create stuff, and I hope Joe Cole actually plays well. We are in the best position we could hope for, an away goal and one goal in it, we should at least get them to extra time.