MLB 2006 Season Thread

[Dragon]

Posada with a 3-run shot. 3-2 Yanks

[Loose Cannon]

:yes:

[Dragon]

LOL c'mon. Glaus with a 2 run shot now

They are hitting the ball hard, Wells was the batter before and missed a home run by a foot or two.

[Loose Cannon]

:nono:

[ct2k]

Hmm, i'm not liking the Glaus and the Wells, but hey its early, plus Francisco Liriano is mowing down Cleveland last i looked, my fantasy score for tonight should be good:D

[ct2k]

oh fuckin jesus christ, 7-3 :|

[Dragon]

Pretty ridiculous, between Shawn Chacon, Kris Wilson and Sidney Ponson as our number 5 starter you'd think they could handle a couple innings. Obviously not the case though.

10-3 now.

[OssMan]

lol Liriano 9 K's in 4 innings. Kazmir 10 in 5

[ct2k]

Just walked Troy Glaus, 2 men on, Overbay will probably hit it 600 ft

[ct2k]

Thank fuck he fanned Overbay:|

[Joey Slugs]

Tomo Ohka

[ct2k]

What happened to Liriano? He left after 5, i'm having to follow the games on mlb.com gameday so i've no idea whats actually happening there.

[Dragon]

I think his pitch count was getting up there, in the 90's I believe.

[ct2k]

95, still woulda thought they'd put him out for the 6th as well :\

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Pelfrey was damn impressive the first few innings today, shame he fell apart.

Kinda had a bad feeling about today. Though seeing Delgado hit an absolute SHOT was awesome.

I can't wait to see the Aaron Heilman screwup on replay. For those who didn't see, there was a man on 3rd and 2 outs, routine grounder to Heilman, and for some reason he decided to nonchalantly jog to 1st instead of toss it to Delgado, and Burke beat him to the bag, run scores. :|

From what I hear, the ump blew the call but I dunno. Didn't get a real good view of the play at the stadium and they didn't show replays. Still, I can't forgive Heilman for putting himself in that situation anyway.</font>

[MVP]

LOL at Beltre striking out after swinging at a pitch after it touched the ground.

7-7 game right now though

[MVP]

Great, the team with the best fielding pct. in baseball just made 2 errors in one play for Beltre to run all the way home. :nono:

I can understand Crisp misplaying where the ball was gonna hit the wall (even though he REALLY misplayed it) cause the sun was in his eyes, but then Manny picks it up barehanded and bobbles it. Had he not bobbled it we would have been able to at least hold Beltre at 3rd.

[BCWWF]

I'm glad Gardy took Liriano out today. I wasn't watching the game, but we've really got to be careful about over-using him. I was surprised that they left him in for 8.2 even though the Twins had like a 8-0 lead over the Devil Rays, but I guess the Twins have a pretty good history of knowing how to develop pitchers, so meh.

[Gertner]

hahaha nice job yankee's, thanks for stopping by:)

[YOUR Hero]

Toronto is at Seattle next. Back a couple months ago I had begun plans to go down and see these games. More wishful thinking than anything. I would have called out the Miz to meet up.

[Loose Cannon]

hahaha nice job yankee's, thanks for stopping by:)

where are those Jays? I can't see them... Oh wait, let me check the rear view mirror. Yep, there they are :yes:

[The Miz]

Toronto is at Seattle next. Back a couple months ago I had begun plans to go down and see these games. More wishful thinking than anything. I would have called out the Miz to meet up.

I'm not in Seattle right now, but tell me next time you want to come down here for some games

[ct2k]

where are those Jays? I can't see them... Oh wait, let me check the rear view mirror. Yep, there they are :yes:

Zactly

We really need to get some stability to the rotation if we wanna actually win the division though:-\

[The Miz]

ESPN reporting CWS are close to acquiring Soriano from WAS with Brandon McCarthy going the other way, and Mike McDougal from KC for an AA pitcher.

[The Miz]

This deal is official:

White Sox get:
C Sandy Alomar Jr.

Dodgers get:
RP B.J. LaMura (AA)

[Joey Slugs]

ESPN reporting CWS are close to acquiring Soriano from WAS with Brandon McCarthy going the other way, and Mike McDougal from KC for an AA pitcher.

Both deals could be announced as early as tonight.

[The Miz]

Awful deal for Chicago IMO. You don't trade an elite SP prospect for a slugger when you have the best offense in the league and pitching is your problem

I like the MacDougal deal though

[Joey Slugs]

Awful deal for Chicago IMO. You don't trade an elite SP prospect for a slugger when you have the best offense in the league and pitching is your problem

I like the MacDougal deal though

I feel the same way actually. I really would hate to see BMac go.

[Dazz]

Right, any website gunna give me baseball highlights that go back to last Thursday, I need to see my boys beating the Yankees.

Also, is www.mlb.com the best place to go for Baseball news or can someone point me to a better site. Anything but Sky Sports news, it only updated today for the Fri-Sun results.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I go to CBSSportsline.com a lot, but for all sports not just baseball. Probably a better baseball specific site out there I guess

[Dazz]

Where do you watch coverage if you miss a game on TV. Bollocks to staying up till 5am Sunday with work the next day. There must be websites with loads of footage

[The Miz]

Use ESPN, MLB, or CBSSportsline for game recaps and play by play. For footage, I dunno, if you go to the official Toronto website on MLB.com they'll have like a 45 second highlight clip for each game but other than that Ionno

[The Miz]

White Sox get:
RP Mike MacDougal

Royals get:
RP Tyler Lumdsen (AA)
SP David Cortes (A)

Now a done deal. Love it for the White Sox. Don't know much about the two prospects, but I suspect the Royals could've done a little better. They have the right idea at least

[Dazz]

Yeah I saw the clip on Torontos site but thats not nearly enough, I watched games for 4 1/2 hours, it cannot be compressed into 45 fucking seconds :(. Will try out those other sites for news though, cheers.

[FakeLaser]

Finally a decent trade.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Yeah I think it is kind of tough to get clips of full games and things like that since they actually want people to watch them on TV and not on the internet. I dunno if you can MLBTV over there? You pay a certain amount and you can watch any game going on on the internet, I'd assume they'd have replays that you could watch. I dunno if you can get it outside of the US though, but I don't see why not.

[The Miz]

ou Yeah its available outside the US. So worth it if you're a huge baseball fan. $80 bucks for every single game the whole season. Seen like 93 Mariners games this year

[ct2k]

I was gonna go for the MLBTV thing but having no money was spanner to my plans, may well go for it next year though as a graduation treat:D

I've found it harder to get hold of highlight clips this year, i think on mlb.com you need to subscribe to see most stuff now

[Dazz]

55 quid eh, I'm guessing theres not much choice of what game you watch, you just get what your given yeah?

Also, any good sites to learn about how good players are, as I have no fucking idea right now, all I know is I likes what I've seen from the Blue Jays, probably don't know anyone outside of them to be honest.

[FakeLaser]

I think the best way to learn about who the good players are is to play fantasy baseball. Kinda late for that though.

[ct2k]

Chone Figgins > everyone ;)

[FakeLaser]

55 quid eh, I'm guessing theres not much choice of what game you watch, you just get what your given yeah?

Also, any good sites to learn about how good players are, as I have no fucking idea right now, all I know is I likes what I've seen from the Blue Jays, probably don't know anyone outside of them to be honest.
http://fantasysports.yahoo.com/analysis/news?slug=bf-bigboard-baseball&prov=yhoo&type=lgns&league=fantasy/mlb

Brandon Funston isn't the brightest guy but he has a list of the top 50 players in fantasy. The only problem is fantasy doesn't count things like defense, team chemistry and undervalues middle relief, but lists like that are a pretty good place to start for the best players out there today.

[ct2k]

Can probably still join f antasy leagues on mlb.com actually

[The Miz]

These are more or less the "elite" players to get you started

Albert Pujols
Alex Rodriguez
Vladimir Guerrero
Ichiro Suzuki
Manny Ramirez
David Ortiz
Jim Thome
Miguel Cabrera
Travis Hafner
Miguel Tejada
Johnny Damon
Derrek Lee
Michael Young
Paul Konerko
Carlos Beltran
Carlos Delgado
Jason Giambi
Vernon Wells
Andruw Jones
Bobby Abreu
Carlos Lee
Jason Bay
Joe Mauer

Johan Santana
Pedro Martinez
Francisco Liriano
Barry Zito
Roger Clemens
Curt Schilling
Roy Halladay
Carlos Zambrano
Jose Contreras
Chris Carpenter
Andy Pettitte
Jason Schmidt
Gil Meche :shifty:
Mariano Rivera
BJ Ryan

Dunno, left off a bunch of guys prolly

[FakeLaser]

I'm gonna list guys who are sort of the "faces" of each franchise.

AL East
1) Boston Red Sox: David Ortiz (1B/DH), Manny Ramirez (LF), Curt Schilling (SP), Jonathan Papelbon (CL), Jason Varitek (C), Josh Beckett (SP)

2) New York Yankees: Derek Jeter (SS), Alex Rodriguez (3B), Mariano Rivera (CL), Jason Giambi (1B/DH), Johnny Damon (CF), Mike Mussina (SP)

3) Toronto Blue Jays: Vernon Wells (CF), Roy Halladay (SP), Alex Rios (RF), BJ Ryan (CL), Troy Glaus (3B)

4) Baltimore Orioles: Miguel Tejada (SS), Melvin Mora (3B), Chris Ray (CL), Erik Bedard (SP)

5) Tampa Bay Devil Rays: Carl Crawford (LF), Scott Kazmir (SP), Jorge Cantu (2B), Johnny Gomes (DH)

AL Central:
1) Detroit Tigers: Justin Verlander (SP), Jeremy Bonderman (SP), Joel Zumaya (RP), Magglio Ordonez (RF), Ivan Rodriguez (C)

2) Chicago White Sox: Jim Thome (1B/DH), Tadahito Iguchi (2B), Joe Crede (3B), Mark Buehrle (SP), Bobby Jenks (CL), Jermaine Dye (RF)

3) Minnesota Twins: Torri Hunter (CF), Francisco Liriano (SP), Johan Santana (SP), Joe Nathan (CL), Justin Morneau (1B)

4) Cleveland Indians: Travis Hafner (DH), Grady Sizemore (CF), Victor Martinez (C/1B), CC Sabathia (SP), Jhonny Peralta (SS)

5) Kansas City Royals: N/A

AL West
1) Oakland Athletics: Rich Harden (SP), Barry Zito (SP), Nick Swisher (1B), Bobby Crosby (SS), Frank Thomas (DH), Huston Street (CL)

2) Texas Rangers: Michael Young (SS), Mark Teixiera (1B), Gary Matthews Jr. (CF), Akiori Otsuka (CL), Hank Blalock (3B)

3) Los Angeles Angels Of Anaheim: Vladimir Guererro (RF), Bartolo Colon (SP), Jered Weaver (SP), John Lackey (SP), Francisco Rodriguez (CL)

4) Seattle Mariners: Ichiro Suzuki (RF), Raul Ibanez (LF), Richie Sexson (1B), Kenji Johjima (C), Gil Meche (SP), JJ Putz (RP)

NL East:
1) New York Mets: David Wright (3B), Jose Reyes (SS) Carlos Beltran (CF), Pedro Martinez (SP), Billy Wagner (CL), Carlos Delgado (1B)

2) Atlanta Braves: Chipper Jones (3B), Andruw Jones (CF), John Smoltz (SP), Brian McCann (C), Edgar Renteria (SS)

3) Florida Marlins: Miguel Cabrera (3B), Dontrelle Willis (SP), Dan Uggla (2B), Hanley Ramirez (SS), Mike Jacobs (1B)

4) Philidelphia Phillies: Jimmy Rollins (SS), Ryan Howard (1B), Chase Utley (2B), Bobby Abreu (RF), Aaron Rowand (CF), Tom Gordon (CL), Brett Myers (SP)

5) Washington Nationals: Alfonso Soriano (LF), Nick Johnson (1B), Jose Vidro (2B), Chad Cordero (CL)

NL Central
1) St. Louis Cardinals: Albert Pujols (1B), Chris Carpenter (SP), Jim Edmonds (CF), Scott Rolen (3B), Jason Isringhausen (CL)

2) Cincinatti Reds: Adam Dunn (LF), Ken Griffey Jr. (CF), Ryan Freel (Utl), Aaron Harrang (SP), Bronson Arroyo (SP)

3) Houston Astros: Roger Clemens (SP), Roy Oswalt (SP), Lance Berkman (1B), Craig Biggio (2B), Brad Lidge (CL), Aubrey Huff (3B)

4) Chicago Cubs: Derek Lee (1B), Mark Prior (SP), Juan Pierre (CF), Aramis Ramirez (3B), Greg Maddux (SP), Kerry Wood (SP)

5) Pittsburgh Pirates: Jason Bay (RF), Jose Castillo (2B), Sean Casey (1B), Freddy Sanchez (SS)

NL West
1) San Diego Padres: Trevor Hoffman (CL), Jake Peavy (SP), Chris Young (SP), Brian Giles (RF), Mike Piazza (C)

2) San Francisco Giants: Barry Bonds (LF), Jason Schmidt (SP), Moises Alou (RF), Omar Vizquel (SS)

3) Arizona Diamondbacks: Brandon Webb (SP), Chad Tracy (3B), Jorge Julio (CL), Orlando Hudson (2B)

4) Los Angeles Dodgers: Nomar Garciaparra (1B), Brad Penny (SP), JD Drew (RF), Jeff Kent (2B), Eric Gagne (CL, injured),

5) Colorado Rockies: Matt Holiday (LF), Todd Helton (1B), Jason Jennings (SP), Brian Fuentes (CL), Brad Hawpe (RF)

If you know about those players you should be pretty good.

[The Miz]

Yeah, that list is better. LOL @ "N/A"

[OssMan]

Yeah I saw the clip on Torontos site but thats not nearly enough, I watched games for 4 1/2 hours, it cannot be compressed into 45 fucking seconds :(. Will try out those other sites for news though, cheers.
http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/multimedia/tp_archive.jsp?c_id=tor

blue jays highlights from pretty much every game the last 3 years,

get mlb.tv, you can watch any game that is not broadcast on national tv which is most,

and you get east access to every game from the last 2 seasons.

[OssMan]

3) Minnesota Twins: Torri Hunter (CF), Francisco Liriano (SP), Johan Santana (SP), Joe Nathan (CL), Justin Morneau (1B)

hey I forgot who is leading MLB in batting average?

[DaveWadding]

3) Arizona Diamondbacks: Brandon Webb (SP), Chad Tracy (3B), Jorge Julio (CL), Orlando Hudson (2B)



I really hate to nit pick this, since you just did it to be nice, but Julio has been their closer for 3 weeks. Luis Gonzalez has been the main bat in the Arizona lineup since at least 2000. I mean, since he got off roids he's terrible, but I feel he is really the face of the D'Backs.

[Boomer]

Making a list like this is pretty impossible. Renteria is not a face of the Braves franchise. Not as much as Francouer, who is known around the league for swinging at every pitch ever and having one of the best throwing arms from the outfield. He's a Georgia boy too.

[The Miz]

ettMy eyes are on Minny/Chicago this week. Minny could, with a sweep, tie Chicago for the WC. :eek: Didn't realize what a turn around they'd had

I am going to go out on a limb here, and predict the AL Central Final Standings as being

Detroit
Minnesota
Chicago
Cleveland (lol, definately the biggest team bust of the year)
Kansas City

[Dragon]

Minnesota will be ridiculous to face in the playoffs, facing Santana and then Liriano could easily put a team down 0-2 in a series. I am hoping they don't make the playoffs lol, should probably worry about the Yankees making it first before who they might face.

[Joey Slugs]

Um... Razor? You seem to have left out a certain team in the NL Central.

I'll help out with that one -

Milwaukee Brewers: Carlos Lee (OF), Prince Fielder (1B), Chris Capuano (SP), Ben Sheets (SP), Derrick Turnbow (CL), Rickie Weeks (2B)

[Joey Slugs]

ettMy eyes are on Minny/Chicago this week. Minny could, with a sweep, tie Chicago for the WC. :eek: Didn't realize what a turn around they'd had

I am going to go out on a limb here, and predict the AL Central Final Standings as being

Detroit
Minnesota
Chicago
Cleveland (lol, definately the biggest team bust of the year)
Kansas City

You know... I think you might be right on this one. I'm not at all giving up on my beloved Sox but the Twins and Tigers are playing some GREAT baseball right now (and the last thing the Sox need to go out and get right now is more offense).

[Joey Slugs]

BTW: I :heart: Bill Hall.

[Joey Slugs]

I really hate to nit pick this, since you just did it to be nice, but Julio has been their closer for 3 weeks. Luis Gonzalez has been the main bat in the Arizona lineup since at least 2000. I mean, since he got off roids he's terrible, but I feel he is really the face of the D'Backs.

Yeah, gotta give Gonzo the edge when it comes to the "face" of the D'Backs.

Well... until Stephen Drew becomes an uberstud.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Wow Zito got rocked, 7 ER in 5 innings. Manny, Oritz and Gonzo all took him deep.

Gonzo also made a spectacular play in the field again, this guy is nuts. I heard about him before he got here, but I didn't think he'd be THIS sick at defense. So much better than Edgar "somehow playing in the American League effects my defense" Renteria, Pretty sure Renteria blamed his problems on the infield at Fenway now that I think about it though lol

Glad to see the Edgar's former Gold Glover erroritis has headed about 4 hours southwest from Boston to NYC.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

This "face of the team" talk reminded me, anyone vote yet on MLB.com (or where ever its at) for the "Face of your favorite franchise" - I am about to go do it right now, obviously voting for Ted Williams.

Who you voting for?

[DaveWadding]

Yeah, gotta give Gonzo the edge when it comes to the "face" of the D'Backs.

Well... until Stephen Drew becomes an uberstud.

Him and Carlos Quentin and Justin Upton :drool:

[Joey Slugs]

Him and Carlos Quentin and Justin Upton :drool:

Amen to that my friend.

[OssMan]

This "face of the team" talk reminded me, anyone vote yet on MLB.com (or where ever its at) for the "Face of your favorite franchise" - I am about to go do it right now, obviously voting for Ted Williams.

Who you voting for?probably Mike Piazza or Tom Seaver maybe, dunno who's on the Mets ballot

i heard some rumors about the mets trading Aaron Heilman to the Mariners for Gil Meche, don't think that's gonna happen

[Joey Slugs]

This "face of the team" talk reminded me, anyone vote yet on MLB.com (or where ever its at) for the "Face of your favorite franchise" - I am about to go do it right now, obviously voting for Ted Williams.

Who you voting for?

Voting for Nellie Fox (White Sox) and Robin Yount (Brewers)

[OssMan]

lol @ brian schneider being on the nationals ballot

[DaveWadding]

I went for Gonzo (D'Backs) and Ernie Banks (Cubs)

[OssMan]

How I voted:

Baltimore: Frank Robinson
Boston: Ted Williams
Chicago: Harold Baines
Cleveland: Tris Speeker (dunno)
Detroit: Hank Greenberg
Kansas City: George Brett
LAAAA: Rod Carew
Minnesota: Kirby Puckett
New York: Joe DiMaggio
Oakland: Dennis Eckersley
Seattle: Ken Griffey Jr
Tampa Bay: Fred McGriff
Texas: Ivan Rodriguez

Arizona: Luis Gonzalez
Atlanta: Hank Aaron
Chicago: Ryne Sandberg
Cincinnati: Pete Rose
Colorado: Todd Helton
Florida: Dontrelle Willis
Houston: Nolan Ryan
Los Angeles: Sandy Koufax
Milwaukee: Robin Yount
New York: Mike Piazza
Philadelphia: Mike Schmidt
Pittsburgh: Roberto Clemente
St Louis: Ozzie Smith
San Diego: Tony Gwynn
San Francisco: Willie Mays
Washington: Livan Hernandez

[FakeLaser]

Babe Ruth is a pretty clear choice.

Can't believe I forgot the Brewers.

[The Miz]

We might have the only unanimous ballot

http://sports.espn.go.com/media/mlb/2000/0125/photo/a_griffey.jpg

[The Miz]

I went with

NYY: Babe Ruth
BOS: Ted Williams
TOR: Joe Carter
BAL: Cal Ripken Jr.
TB: Aubrey Huff

CHW: Frank Thomas
CLE: Jim Thome
DET: Ty Cobb
MIN: Kirby Puckett
KC: George Brett

OAK: Dennis Eckersley
LAA: Garret Anderson or some shit. Who cares. Fuck them
SEA: Ken Griffey Jr.
TEX: The Roidin' Latinos (Pudge, Palmeiro, JuanGon)

NYM: Tom Seaver
ATL: Henry Aaron
FLA: Luis Castillo/Mike Lowell
WAS: Tim Raines Sr.
PHI: Mike Schmidt

STL: Stan the Man
CHC: Steve Bartman
HOU: Craig Biggio/Jeff Bagwell
CIN: Pete Rose Sr.
MIL: Robin Yount

LAD: Sandy Koufax
SD: Tony Gwynn Sr.
SF: Barry Bonds
ARI: Luis Gonzalez/Curt Schilling/Randy Johnson
COL: Larry Walker

[The Miz]

Wow Zito got rocked, 7 ER in 5 innings. Manny, Oritz and Gonzo all took him deep.

Gonzo also made a spectacular play in the field again, this guy is nuts. I heard about him before he got here, but I didn't think he'd be THIS sick at defense. So much better than Edgar "somehow playing in the American League effects my defense" Renteria, Pretty sure Renteria blamed his problems on the infield at Fenway now that I think about it though lol

Glad to see the Edgar's former Gold Glover erroritis has headed about 4 hours southwest from Boston to NYC.

At least Swisher kept Beckett's home run record chase going :shifty:

I hope Schilling plunks somebody tomorrow (or has a "momentarily lapse of control" as the Boston Globe will tell you) and Bradley just tries to kill him or something. Would be worth the suspension and people like Skip Bayless saying "Milton Bradley is a disgusting human being!!!!", Schilling needs a punch in the face so god damn bad

[YOUR Hero]

The Jays need Chacin to get healthy or Towers to find his groove. The Jays need another liable starter fast.

[Loose Cannon]

dam Zito got shelled. I figured he would. I don't think he does well against Boston.

The AL West is a tough prediction.

[Evil Vito]

CHC: Steve Bartman

:lol:

[ct2k]

I think practically everyone was predicting the A's to have built a lead at the top of the West by now :-\

[Dragon]

Harold Reynolds apparently fired from ESPN. I dunno, kind of surprising, was always one of the best on BBTN.

http://www.nypost.com/sports/espn_fires_reynolds_sports_andrew_marchand.htm

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Swisher did hit that homer last night but before that they showed a split of his stats, didn't realize he was on a huge slump the past month. That probably adds to the lack of lead in the AL West for the A's

Every division in the AL is a bit tough to predict this year, the same goes for the NL as well (well outside of the NL East)

[ct2k]

Yeah i thought the Dodgers might've asserted themselves a bit more by now

[The Miz]

HAHA YES. Reynolds was a moron, but looked like a genius sitting next to John Kruk and Steve Phillips

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Reynolds seemed like a pretty cool guy though, Steve Phillips is a fag

[The Miz]

That's all he had going for him though, he was nice and an alright guy, but what a dummy. And one of the biggest Jeter ass-kissers.

[The Miz]

I guess the only thing to say here really is "Feliz Navidad, Harold!"

[Dragon]

lol @ feliz navidad

Yeah, he seemed like a good guy and everything, wonder what he did to get fired though.

I think everyone can agree that Phillips is an idiot. I dunno, I could deal with Reynolds a lot more than some of the guys on ESPN.

[OssMan]

Fuck Steve Phillips

[The Miz]

Kinda off topic, but I just found out that John Kruk has one testicle. ROFL

[Dragon]

Haha yeah, I was reading something in ESPN magazine like last month about John Kruk and his single testicle.

[Dragon]

One Nut Kruk

[Joey Slugs]

Off to Milwaukee to see Sheets return tonight and Cappy pitch tomorrow afternoon. Later Gents.

[Adder]

Reynolds probably defended Manny's fielding.

[Dazz]

Cheers the Miz and FakeRazor, that was a hell of alot more helpful then I was expecting :y:

[The Miz]

Dodgers get:
RP Elmer Dessens

Royals get:
RP Odalis Pérez
SP Blake Johnson (A)
SP Julio Pimental (A)

Wow, I know the Dodgers hate Pérez but giving up decent prospects just to get rid of him is a bit much. Dessens isn't that much better than Pérez anyway. I love what the Royals are doing with these last two trades, trading their mediocre to below average talent off for good but not great prospects. With the exception of Joey Gathright deal I like what this new GM is doing. Certainly not something Allard Baird would have done.

[ct2k]

Picking up Perez can't exactly hurt when you've been out of the race since late April to be fair! KC may aswell start trying to form a decent core in their team to build around, they won't attract any top talent as long as they're languishing in this eternal quagmire of theirs, and like you said having a decent GM has gotta put them atleast facing in the right direction

[Adder]

I think Dessens is a smart pick up if you can afford to give up 2 prospects. I don't know the state of the Dodgers farm system, they've always been know as a really good breeding ground for pitching.

[ct2k]

Until they completely over work them

[OssMan]

Wow Aramis Ramirez is back. 6 HR in his last 7 games

[The Miz]

Brewers get:
3B/2B Tony Graffanino

Royals get:
RP Jorge de la Rosa (AAA)

[The Miz]

HAHA Jason Bartlett's first home run of the season is a 3 run shot off Contreras. 4-1 Twins in the 7th with Santana only having thrown 85 pitches

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Kinda off topic, but I just found out that John Kruk has one testicle. ROFL
So does the best defensive thrid basemen in baseball (:shifty: ) Mike Lowell

[YOUR Hero]

Kenji Jojima is a very good baseball player. Man. For his 1st year in MLB baseball, he doesn't look out of place at all. He's playing what's the toughest, most demanding position in the game and not missing a beat.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Red Sox just scored 6 runs in the top of the 8th..huge

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Oh fuck they are bringing in Seanez

[Gertner]

hahah John McDonald hit a grand slam. That's gotta sting Miz

[The Miz]

Yeah that really killed Seattle's playoff hopes :roll:

[The Miz]

BTW Chad Gaudin lowers his ERA to 3.32 :)

[The Miz]

Funny how you didn't post anything about yesterday;s game though

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

hey Gertner, how about that Red Sox pitching staff. Two 13 game winners, BEST IN THE MAJORS

[Gertner]

Funny how you didn't post anything about yesterday;s game though

I've about had it with Casey Janssen

[Gertner]

hey Gertner, how about that Red Sox pitching staff. Two 13 game winners, BEST IN THE MAJORS

I never said that's all u base a pitchign staff on. Miz says that it has nothing to do with anything, but i'm saying it does

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

haha yeah I'm just fucking with you

but I really don't think wins have that much to do with a pitcher. I don't completely write them off like some people, but in the argument you two are having wins really have nothing to do with anything, so you are wrong.

[The Miz]

Gertner changes his view on stats to fit his argument. When he thought Chacin had a lower ERA than Blanton (which he didn't), the first thing he said in Chacin's favor was "Better ERA than Blanton". Since Blanton's ERA has been at least a full run lower, his argument became "Who cares what his ERA is as long as he wins?"

Although I'm sure there's a lot of pitchers who would really struggle to "win" when your team gives you 7.7 RPG like the Blue Jays do for Chacin (best in MLB). I know, I know, Chacin has just done such a great job of holding those slim leads Toronto gives him. He knows how to win.

[The Miz]

Now that the league has figured out Chacin's goofy delivery, he's pretty easy to hit

ERAs over the last 5 months of Chacins career
Aug 05: 5.30
Sep 05: 4.34
Apr 06: 4.70
May 06: 6.08
Jun 06: 8.59 (only 2 starts)

He might be done.

[Gertner]

k Chacin has been pitchign with elbow problems this year

[The Miz]

Apparently not bad enough to make 10 starts. And why did he blow ass the last two months of last year?

[mrslackalack]

BREAKING NEWS: ESPN anyalist Harold Reynolds fired by ESPN amid rumors of sexual harrasment charges.

[The Miz]

BREAKING NEWS : MONTREAL EXPOS TO MOVE TO WASHINGTON

[The Miz]

Wow, Justin Morneau goes yard. 5-3 Minnesota. If they can hold on,

Minnesota 59-41
Chicago 59-41

[ct2k]

Its no wonder when you actually look at the guys the Twins have, i think it'll be between us and them for the wildcard...providing the Sox keep their lead and the Jays don't quite do enough:shifty:

[Dragon]

Crazy, if the Twins hold on and the Yanks win tonight we will be on top of the wild card by 1/2 a game in front of both the Sox and Twins. Gonna be interesting.

[The Miz]

Mariners DFA Carl Everett ROFLLL YESSSSSSSSSSS. Greatest move in the history of this organization. Well except trading Varitek and Lowe for Heathcliff Slocumb :shifty:

[Dragon]

I didn't realize how much interleague hurt the Yankees in the standings. They went 10-8 while the other top teams in the AL were dominating.

BOS - 16-2
DET - 15-3
CHW - 14-4
MIN - 16-2

[The Miz]

Why interleague is dumb. What if Boston wins the division by 1 game, with the Yankees having a better record against teams in the right league

[ct2k]

I think interleague has really outlasted its shelf life anyway, it was needed to bring fans back after the strike and all but i dunno, its just full of a load of pointless games and the odd crosstown matchup that ESPN etc try and paint as a rivalry, ie in Chicago and New York

[ct2k]

Also its like what 2 weeks? That's too long, any novelty is gone after the first week at the most

[Dragon]

Speaking of DFA. The Yankees DFA Kelly Stinnett and acquired Sal Fasano. I dunno, really doesn't help at all, both are mediocre behind the plate and suck at hitting.

No more handlebar moustache for Sal haha

[The Miz]

Mariners get:
1B Ben Broussard

Indians get:
OF Shin-Soo Choo (AAA)
PTBNL

God I hate you Bavasi. We're not going to win the fucking division, stop trading prospects. LOL @ us acquiring both parts of Cleveland's 1B platoon though (Broussard/Eduardo Perez)

[FakeLaser]

I bet we pick up Carl Everett.

[Dragon]

God, I hope not.

[Dragon]

But Cashman has been picking up everyone else's trash hoping to find lightning in a bottle like last year, so you never know.

[Adder]

Chacin's struggled late last year because he tired out. He needs to get better stamina not just for a full season, but for the 6th,7th,+ innings of individual games. He tends to blow up. This year, even though he pitched 10 games or so, he was always hurting. I don't see him as a superstar, but I don't see him as being done either.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>John Maine once again impressed the fuck out of me. 16 straight scoreless innings now over his last two starts.</font>

[The Miz]

Gee I hope nobody catches Huston Street's (2.78 ERA, 0.88 WHIP, 8.54 K/9, 43/9 K/BB) Keith Fouke disease

[mrslackalack]

But Cashman has been picking up everyone else's trash hoping to find lightning in a bottle like last year, so you never know.

:y:

[mrslackalack]

I heard the Angels are shopping around for a 1B.

[Boomer]

The Braves completed a save?!??!

[Boomer]

Adam LaRoche can hit?!!?!?!

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Gee I hope nobody catches Huston Street's (2.78 ERA, 0.88 WHIP, 8.54 K/9, 43/9 K/BB) Keith Fouke disease
Yeah

Papelbon would still kill Houston Street in a fight tho

[The Miz]

I dunno, Street is from Texas, he could prolly fuck some shit up

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Why interleague is dumb. What if Boston wins the division by 1 game, with the Yankees having a better record against teams in the right league
They play the same teams don't they? Except the Red Sox played the Phillies twice and NYY played the Mets twice, atleast that is how I thought it worked. Seemed to me they were playing the same teams. I am sure there will be some excuse though if the Red Sox do win the divison.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I dunno, Street is from Texas, he could prolly fuck some shit up
Papelbon is from Louisana..it'd be a massive battle that would rival Stone Cold vs the Rock

[The Miz]

They play the same teams don't they? Except the Red Sox played the Phillies twice and NYY played the Mets twice, atleast that is how I thought it worked. Seemed to me they were playing the same teams. I am sure there will be some excuse though if the Red Sox do win the divison.

Yeah they play the same teams, but so what. Why should AL East teams play against NL teams have anything to do with the division champion

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Well I think it is fair since they play the same teams. I mean what do the Texas Rangers have to do with the AL East? Not a whole lot, but the Yankees and Red Sox play them an equal number of times each year as well.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

So just throwing #'s out there, lets say the Red Sox are 3 below .500 againest the AL West, but the Yankees are 3 above .500 and the Yankees win the AL East by one game..how is that any different?

Granted the NL is a lot weaker, but both teams played the same teams so one team dominated the teams they should dominate and the other did not - don't see why this a bad thing?

[The Miz]

Yeah but they're in the same league, and could both possibly be competing for the AL Wild Card. And they don't have to play under a different set of rules each time they go to Texas

[RoXer]

I think it's just one rule actually. NOT TOO SURE THOUGH.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Yeah but they're in the same league, and could both possibly be competing for the AL Wild Card. And they don't have to play under a different set of rules each time they go to Texas
Wildcard thing makes sense but you orignally brought up how interleague play would be unfair to the Yankees if they lost to the Red Sox by 1 game in the AL East, which is not true at all.

[Joey Slugs]

Ugh. Ben Sheets pitches a fucking gem and the Brewers still find a way to blow it. Today wasn't any better (atleast I picked up a Prince Fielder player t-shirt).

It was cool to sit in the same seats for two straight games at Miller Park (haven't done that since the place opened). Plus the seats I had were amazing.

Now I come home to see my beloved Sox in a tailspin that could end the season. Fucking Twins. Serious.

[Joey Slugs]

Heard one of the guys on the Comcast Sports Nite (on right now btw) say that the Sox were just glad not to have faced Liriano this past series.

Um... why? We got swept. Was Liriano's win going to count for two or something?

[Joey Slugs]

Oh yeah... got to meet Mr. Bob Uecker after the game Tuesday night at the Newsroom Pub. Awesome guy. My girlfriend and I had a drink with him.

[The Miz]

Wildcard thing makes sense but you orignally brought up how interleague play would be unfair to the Yankees if they lost to the Red Sox by 1 game in the AL East, which is not true at all.

Was just an exmple because I knew the Red Sox destroyed the NL this year. And it isn't fair, all teams in the AL are fighting for the AL championship, NL teams should have no affect on that

[The Miz]

Hey LL Cool G how about AJ Burnett. That was a 9 trillion dollars well spent

[ct2k]

Jaret Wright only gave up 3 ER in 5 1/3, why can't the back end of the rotation do that regularly?

Also, CWS have surrendered the WC lead for the first time in what...months. I don't think many people predicted they'd fall off the way they have, tied with the Twins 8 1/2 back from Detroit now

[YOUR Hero]

Fucking AJ Burnett. The guy has such dominant stuff but he doesn't use it wisely. You watch a guy like Moyer pitch and you can see the intelligence he brings to the mound. Honestly now, AJ.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>The more I think about it, the more I doubt the Mets will make a move for a starter unless they can get one for cheap.

Pedro, Glavine, and Trachsel simply aren't going anywhere. Maine has been brilliant and will stay in the rotation for now. Past that, its between Pelfrey and El Duque. El Duque's gonna stay on the staff no matter what (be it rotation or bullpen), so it's up to Pelfrey to keep his roster spot.

And if all else fails, you also have Darren Oliver or Aaron Heilman who could start if need be (though the Mets would probably bring up Jose Lima again sooner than use either of those guys as starts...which is horseshit but oh well)</font>

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Was just an exmple because I knew the Red Sox destroyed the NL this year. And it isn't fair, all teams in the AL are fighting for the AL championship, NL teams should have no affect on that
Stupid? Maybe...unfair? Dunno about all that

I liked going to see the Nationals play the Red Sox at Fenway because I will probably never do that again, so that was pretty cool. Seeing Pedro coming back and pitch in Fenway was pretty sweet too, so I like Interleague.

[Adder]

Inter-league is what it is, baseball games against an opponent... If you have a losing record in inter-league play and are beaten out for a playoff or wild-card spot by one game to a team that you played better against in the division, well too bad. Then you should have done even better in your own division or in inter-league play.

I could say playing central or west coast teams isn't fair either (if you are a east div. team) because that same logic could be applied. Whereas you do poorer against those teams than your division rival, but you are better within you're own division than the team that beats you out for a playoff spot.

[The Miz]

So why don't we let NCAA teams play against the AL East then? Or Jose Canseco's adult softball team? Let's let those games determine who makes the playoffs.

All the teams in the AL are competeing for the best record in the AL. If the Red Sox are 100-62, and the Rangers are 101-61, and the Rangers went 10-1 against the Dodgers and Padres while the Red Sox went 1-10 against the Nats and Phillies and the Rangers make the playoffs, that is the most retarded thing ever. There is no reason games teams competeing for something completely different under a different set of rules should determine who goes to the playoffs

[RoXer]

I think it's just one rule actually. NOT TOO SURE THOUGH.

[YOUR Hero]

Nah, Adder's right. Your analogy, Miz is silly. These are all Major League teams and all play for the same world championship.

[The Miz]

Well lets do it then. Derek Jeter, David Ortiz, and Jim Thome vs. Hulk Hogan, Triple H, and Shawn Michaels. Winner is AL Champion

[YOUR Hero]

Don't post drunk

[The Miz]

We'll even make it a Punjabi Prison Match

[RoXer]

Wait, does RAW or Smackdown have the DH?

[MVP]

I'd prefer to see Barry Bonds vs. Scott Steiner in a "Syringe on a Pole" match.

[SammyG]

lmao @ my dodgers. it's ridiculous.

[YOUR Hero]

I heard the Angels are shopping around for a 1B.

Why? They've got Chone Figgins!

[The Miz]

And Darin "Mr. Grit" Erstad. You gotta love the football background. He's a tough son-of-a-gun

[The Miz]

Carlos Lee turns down the Brewers contract extension offer and will now be traded. He's been rumored to the Twins but I see him back in Chicago some how.

[The Miz]

Also, Chicago Tribune reports the Mets want Greg Maddux. LOL. Go get em Omar!

[YOUR Hero]

Brewers seems like an up and coming team, I'd want to be, if I was Lee, a part of that. He'd sure look good in a Jays uniform :(

[The Miz]

I wonder if Ricciardi is going to unload any of his would-be free agents. Catalanotto is a guy I'd like on my team.

[The Miz]

BREAKINGNEWS: AN AL ALL-STAR MAY BE AVAILABLE

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/sports/15140698.htm

[Evil Vito]

Also, Chicago Tribune reports the Mets want Greg Maddux. LOL. Go get em Omar!

<font color=goldenrod>Eh, he's in the same boat as Livan with me. Playoff pitcher...if we can get him on the cheap, do it.</font>

[The Miz]

What? A playoff pitcher? So I guess because Livan posted a 3.99 ERA from 1997-2002 in the playoffs that means he's just suddenyl going to figure out how to not suck in the playoffs 2006?

[The Miz]

BTW, Maddux's postseason ERA is higher than his regular season, throughout his career.

[ct2k]

Are the Mets not gonna look for some more youth for their rotation? Right now they have that Cuban kid who's still adjusting, has been real patchy in the 2 starts i saw. But yeah, Trachsel, Glavine, El Duque and Maddux? Whats their combined age like 38?

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Rangers get: OF Carlos Lee
OF Nelson Cruz
PTBNL

Brewers get: RHP Francisco Cordero
OF Kevin Mench
OF Laynce Nix</font>

[ct2k]

The Rangers will still be average as fuck

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Anyways, sadly, I doubt the Mets are gonna get younger with their rotation.

I've heard a rumored Aaron Heilman for Gil Meche deal. Miz, your gonna have to fill me in on Meche because I really don't know anything about him. His numbers don't look ridiculously good but they are better than Maddux/Livan/El Duque's numbers...plus he's at least fairly young.

Can't help but think that if that deal went down Meche would crumble in the NY spotlight while Heilman ends up thriving in a starting role.</font> :-\

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

So why don't we let NCAA teams play against the AL East then? Or Jose Canseco's adult softball team? Let's let those games determine who makes the playoffs.[/COLOR][/FONT]lol worst arguement ever

The only arguement you can have about interleague is that is unfair to teams fighting for the wildcard because they play different teams.

[OssMan]

Are the Mets not gonna look for some more youth for their rotation? Right now they have that Cuban kid who's still adjusting, has been real patchy in the 2 starts i saw. But yeah, Trachsel, Glavine, El Duque and Maddux? Whats their combined age like 38?Mets have Brian Bannister and Mike Pelfrey who have both been up this year, I think Pelfrey and El Duque are fighting for a spot and Bannister still has to make rehab starts since straining his hamstring. There are a couple prospects in the minors... Phillip Humber is the highest rated I guess but I dunno if we get Maddux or someone stupid they probably wont see action for a while. We have a ton of money though so we are always gonna do something in the offseason

[OssMan]

lol brewers got raped in the ass. nelson cruz is supposed to be a vlad guerrero type player and is a really highly rated prospect. i thought you were supposed to give up prospects to get big players...not to give them away.

[Joey Slugs]

NELSON CRUZ????

OH GOD WHY????

Ouch, that trade fucking sucks. I understand that Lee was going to leave Milwaukee at some point, but not this way. What the fuck was Melvin thinking? Cordero is a nice addition to the pitching staff, but Nix and Mench?

Lee and Cruz couldn't get them a better deal?

[ct2k]

By Vlad Guerrero player dya mean he can hit any pitch anywhere into the stands?

[ct2k]

Jesus, Liriano has only given up 75 hits in 100+ innings, kid is total dominance, up against the Tigs tonight though so we'll see, still him Verlander and John Lackey have been magical for my fantasy team

[Joey Slugs]

By Vlad Guerrero player dya mean he can hit any pitch anywhere into the stands?

Yes, and a solid 5 tool player.

[DominateR]

Hate to be the one to burst everyone else's bubble but these guys are going to be the ones left standing at the end of the fall classic:

(see attachment)

And if anyone doesn't believe me ask the pitchers, the defense and Manager Jim Leyland. :yes:

[ct2k]

Maybe

[OssMan]

Hate to be the one to burst everyone else's bubble but these guys are going to be the ones left standing at the end of the fall classic:

(see attachment)

And if anyone doesn't believe me ask the pitchers, the defense and Manager Jim Leyland. :yes:Losing in the ALDS

[DaveWadding]

I heard the Angels are shopping around for a 1B.

God this is beautiful. We could trade them the Jew and cash for a couple mid-level prospects (The Jew's no trade clause has 3 exceptions: Pads, Giants, and Angels) and then the Jew would be gone and Carlos Quentin can take his regular spot in RF. :love:

[The Miz]

I remember a time when all it took to get Nelson Cruz was Keith Ginter :shifty: Cruz still isn't THAT good though. Much better OF prospects out there. Cruz being compared to Vlad is an "lol" moment.

Mench and Nix will probably become all stars just like every other mediocre AL hitter

Apparently acquiring Carlos Lee is going to make Millwood, Loe, and Koronka learn how to pitch good. Go Rangers :y:

[The Miz]

Anyways, sadly, I doubt the Mets are gonna get younger with their rotation.

I've heard a rumored Aaron Heilman for Gil Meche deal. Miz, your gonna have to fill me in on Meche because I really don't know anything about him. His numbers don't look ridiculously good but they are better than Maddux/Livan/El Duque's numbers...plus he's at least fairly young.

Can't help but think that if that deal went down Meche would crumble in the NY spotlight while Heilman ends up thriving in a starting role. :-\

Meche has been good this year because he's finally striking out guys. I don't think he ever even struck out 100 before this year, he's already at like 110 with 2+ months to go. Still gives up A TON of jacks and he pitches in the best pitcher's park in the AL basically. I'm pretty sure the Heilman for Meche thing was bogus, which is good because I don't care for Heilman. Meche would be better a good NL pitchers park but you never really know when guys go to NY.

[Loose Cannon]

The Tigers need to show they can do better then a sub .500 average against good AL Teams before they win any postseason.

[RoXer]

God this is beautiful. We could trade them the Jew and cash for a couple mid-level prospects (The Jew's no trade clause has 3 exceptions: Pads, Giants, and Angels) and then the Jew would be gone and Carlos Quentin can take his regular spot in RF. :love:
Hey, why don't you tell everyone where you heard that from? :p

[The Miz]

Are you kidding. Why would the Angels trade for Shawn Green when they could trade for somebody, you know, good.

[dablackguy]

Rangers get:
Carlos Lee
Prospect Nelson Cruz

Brewers get:
Lanyce Nix
Kevin Mench
Francisco Cordero
prospect Julian Cordero


http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=112288





I personally like the trade for the Brewers. Turnbow has been awful for about a month and lost his job as Brewers closer. And while Cordero lost his closer job as well to Otsuka, the change of leagues might help him. Mench doesn't always play because apparently Showalter didn't like him, but has hit for power when he does play. At this point Nix hasn't shown much but if he gets ab's we'll have to see what he does.

I think the Rangers did only ok in this deal. Yeah they got Lee, who's going to be a monster in that park, but it doesn't change the fact that even if they win the division, they're not going anywhere because they don't pitch well enough in my opinion.. Unless you believe in Kevin Millwood and Vincente Padilla in the postseason, I don't. Thoughts?

[ct2k]

Come join everyone in the mlb season thread:y::p

[dablackguy]

The Rangers will still be average as fuck

:y:

[The Miz]

Nah. Their offense has actually been pretty average this year. He'll give em a nice boost but won't fix the pitching problems.

[dablackguy]

Are you kidding. Why would the Angels trade for Shawn Green when they could trade for somebody, you know, good.

I think (read:hope) they now go out and get Soriano in response. Put him in left and DH Garrett Anderson, not that Anderson even deserves that much, he's been terrible

But a top of the order that is Figgins Cabrera Soriano and Vlad :drool:

[DaveWadding]

Are you kidding. Why would the Angels trade for Shawn Green when they could trade for somebody, you know, good.

Cause they're, you know, the Angels?

[DaveWadding]

Hey, why don't you tell everyone where you heard that from? :p

Credit: DaveWadding's brain

[The Miz]

Who happen to have the best farm system in baseball and wouldn't waste their time on NL scrubs when they are one of the few teams with the pieces to get an elite player

[The Miz]

Giants get:
RP Mike Stanton

Nationals get:
SP Shairon Martis (A)

Wow Mike Stanton, looks like the Giants are trying to get younger. All they gave up was the 21 year old who pitched a no hitter in the WBC. Brian Sabean for president.

[The Miz]

Never fear Brewer fans, Lee's hole has already been filled tenfold

Brewers get:
3B David Bell

Phillies get:
SP Wilfredo Liriano (A)

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Orlando got the standing O again at Fenway tonight, I wish the Red Sox just kept him after the 2004 season. Instead they signed Renteria for 4 yrs/40 mil and now pay him to play for the Braves :-\

[The Miz]

Nah Cabrera is kinda shit. Having a Renteria-in-2005 year at short too

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Yeah Red Sox are probably better off now without him, since they got Gonzo and he's been doing alright with the bat and playing Gold Glove D

Atleast he isn't a pussy like Renteria though, I really hate that guy now. He blamed all his troubles on everyone else, on the infeild, switching leagues, getting boo'd. Now that his back to a city where nobody cares about baseball he is tearing up, what a fag. Dude was making 10 mil a year to play baseball, I really don't get how guys can let boos effect them.

[OssMan]

Braves drew their largest crowd at Turner Field ever tonight, more than the world series lol

[The Miz]

Braves get:
RP Danys Baez
2B Willie Aybar

Dodgers get:
3B Wilson Betemit

What the fuck Schuerholz?

[Joey Slugs]

Some weird trades going on. This is going to be an interesting weekend.

[The Miz]

I bet Kenny Williams or Terry Ryan will make a huge trade this weekend

[weather vane]

ahahahhahahahhaaahahhahahahahahahhaHHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHhAHHHAHAHAHhaHhahHaHA

right on

[Joey Slugs]

Kenny is one crafty nigger (I say that with all due respect to actual niggers), so I'm sure he'll pull something off.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I don't think it'll be as crazy as the '04 season

[The Miz]

White Sox get:
SP Jose Contreras

Yankees get:
SP Esteban Loaiza

[The Miz]

LOL, and when the media wanted to kill DePodesta for the Penny trade. Penny is now like the best pitcher in the NL, LoDuca is the definition of mediocre and I believe Guillermo Mota bagged my groceries this afternoon

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I believe Guillermo Mota bagged my groceries this afternoonROFL

I think he was "on" the Red Sox for like 10 minutes, then got traded in the Coco Crisp deal.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Apparently Zito's a Met just as long as the Mets will give up Milledge

I was saying I'd like to stay away from Zito, but if they are talking Milledge for Zito straight up, that might just be too good to pass up...provided Zito agrees to sign an extension. I really like Milledge...I don't wanna deal him if it's gonna be for a 3 month rental.</font>

[OssMan]

dont dont dont dont trade milledge!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!joifsddsiojfsdjidis

'win now' is out of control, fucking omar minaya better notmake a deal milledge for zito... oakland is not gonna resign him anyway and we will just go after him in the offseason like we always do...cant we just try to win with what we have, its not like we're gonna go 55-107 next year

[OssMan]

Apparently Zito's a Met just as long as the Mets will give up Milledge

I was saying I'd like to stay away from Zito, but if they are talking Milledge for Zito straight up, that might just be too good to pass up...provided Zito agrees to sign an extension. I really like Milledge...I don't wanna deal him if it's gonna be for a 3 month rental.how is that too good to pass up...our corner outfielders next year are gonna be floyd and nady again without milledge, and it would benefit us more to just go after a starting pitcher heavily this offseason than a corner outfielder...maybe i just have a crush on milledge, but i think thats a really stupid trade... plus, look at what we have on the farm system plus pelfrey,

come on

[OssMan]

trade floyd and jose valentin for cliff lee

i dont know

that is btetr than milledge for zito

[OssMan]

also why was C.C Sabathia so hyped up this year

[The Miz]

I don't believe Beane would do Milledge for ito straight up. He already turned down Heilman and Milledge. Pelfrey would have to be involved.

And you guys need an ace pitcher. Pedro and Glavine are not Pedro and Glavine 1997. Zito's ERA would be like .02 in the NL and I'm sure he'd resign because he loves Rick Peterson. You should also try to capitalize on Maine's fluke run, Maine was another Beane favorite a few years back.

[The Miz]

Milledge is like the most overhyped prospect of all time. Like barely a top 10 guy, people just talk about him because he plays in NY. If he was on Oakland they wouldn't let him steal anyway so that's like half his value right there

[ct2k]

Wang, 2 hit shut out:cool:

[Evil Vito]

how is that too good to pass up...our corner outfielders next year are gonna be floyd and nady again without milledge, and it would benefit us more to just go after a starting pitcher heavily this offseason than a corner outfielder...maybe i just have a crush on milledge, but i think thats a really stupid trade... plus, look at what we have on the farm system plus pelfrey,

come on

<font color=goldenrod>The farm system is better than you think.

Mike Pelfrey AND Phil Humber will probably both be in next year's rotation...or at least compete over one spot in the spring (replacing Trachsel and then if Maine or Glavine aren't around the other one will get his slot)

I've heard some people project OF prospect Carlos Gomez AHEAD of Lastings Milledge. There's also Fernando Martinez who is supposed to be a monster as well. Granted both of those guys are a long way away from the big leagues, but I could live with Floyd and Nady another year.

We've also got a 1B prospect by the name of Mike Carp, who from what I gather has a swing eerily similar to David Wright. He's only 20 now, so in a few years he could very well be Delgado's replacement.</font>

[ct2k]

Its a shame for the Mets they don't have the old DH, perfect for a guy like Delgado at this stage of his career

[Joey Slugs]

White Sox get:
SP Jose Contreras

Yankees get:
SP Esteban Loaiza

:lol:

[ct2k]

Yeah i still can't believe that one, fair enough Contreras was a bit inconsistent but i dunno, i was pissed them and i'm still pissed now.

Also Vazquez, he was awesome the first half in 2004, shame he tailed off so much

[OssMan]

I don't believe Beane would do Milledge for ito straight up. He already turned down Heilman and Milledge. Pelfrey would have to be involved.

And you guys need an ace pitcher. Pedro and Glavine are not Pedro and Glavine 1997. Zito's ERA would be like .02 in the NL and I'm sure he'd resign because he loves Rick Peterson. You should also try to capitalize on Maine's fluke run, Maine was another Beane favorite a few years back.Pelfrey can't be traded, cause he hasn't been signed for a year or something. Dunno what the actual rule is but I'm positive he can't be traded

Yeah Zito would be very good here if we don't make a deal for him and do sign him in the offseason, we have Zito and Milledge on our team. If we trade right now, we might not have either of them next season

[OssMan]

The farm system is better than you think.no that is what i'm saying, look at what we have in the farm system plus pelfrey who we already brought up...zito would be nice, but we have a future in the farm system

[OssMan]

lol @ tim hudson

[DaveWadding]

:eek: @ this Cards/Cubs game. Lots and lots of weird stuff going on.

[The Miz]

lol Nick Swisher 100 K's in 101 games played

and OMG PAPI IS SO CLUTCH. SEEING EYE SINGLE TO LEFT WITH A MAN ON THIRD.... HOW DOES HE DO IT?!?!?!? Josh beckett gave up Curtis Pride's first home run in 4 years though LOL

[Boomer]

Tim Hudson is one of the reasons the Braves franchise is dying. His time in Atlanta has been wasted. What the fuck happened.

[The Miz]

He was always injury prone and it finally caught up to him. He edited his mechanics to compensate for his injury and now his stuff stinks. Being like 140 lbs. doesn't help him either.

At least you guys didn't give up anything for him. The Cardinals should really be kicking theirselves for that Mulder deal

[The Miz]

Wow Yankee pitching. Ridiculous

[Dragon]

Yup, 18-5 right now against the power-house of a team that is the Devil Rays.

[The Miz]

Tomas Perez 3 doubles, lol :(

[Dragon]

Johnson has had like 7 of 8 quality starts before this game. He can't go too long without getting just pounded in a game. Last time he got crushed was against the Mets and then he rattled off some quality games though.

Chacon has been awful for quite some time so today wasn't a suprise. He got lucky last tme out getting out of a bases loaded jam with no outs.

Mike Myers has pitched like 15 innings this year, hasn't pitched in more than 10 days or something before today too. I remember the reasoning to bring him here was to get Ortiz out when it was needed and earlier in the year the first time he faces Ortiz he gives up a homer lol.

[Dragon]

LOL

Sal Fasano was just up and he hits a grounder to third and the third baseman bobbles a little but takes his time and throws him out. One of the YES announcers says the third baseman probably read a scouting report on Fasano to know that he doesn't run fast.

The fact that he is just fat probably didn't give it away at all haha

[The Miz]

Tomas Perez 3 doubles, lol :(

ROFL there's number 4.

Shit, I need to see a Yankee game, I wanna know what Sal Fasano looks like with out that beastly moustache.

Also, didn't NY beat TB like 26-8 or something last year? This game looks headed in that direction

[DaveWadding]

FUCKING DEMPSTER. You can never just make it fucking EASY can you? Single to Pujols, then 2 straight outs, then loads the bases before he gets the final out. That fucker is gonna give me a goddamn heart attack.

[DaveWadding]

:eek: Boob Melvin actually put out a decent lineup today.

Eric Byrnes, CF
Orlando Hudson, 2B
Luis Gonzalez, LF
Conor Jackson, 1B
Chad Tracy, 3B
Carlos Quentin, RF
Stephen Drew, SS
Chris Snyder, C

I can't even complain. Maybe switch Drew and O-Dawg.

[Boomer]

The Braves might be falling fast, but JORGE SOSA JUST GOT DESIGNATED FOR ASSIGNMENT

FUCK YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

lol Ortiz getting the game winning hit againest the Angels, haven't seen that before

[Joey Slugs]

White Sox with 2 in a row. Half game up on the WC. Don't call it a comeback!

Brew Crew gets a much needed win over the Red Sockings. Cuts into the WC lead.

Good weekend so far.

[Joey Slugs]

:eek: Boob Melvin actually put out a decent lineup today.

Eric Byrnes, CF
Orlando Hudson, 2B
Luis Gonzalez, LF
Conor Jackson, 1B
Chad Tracy, 3B
Carlos Quentin, RF
Stephen Drew, SS
Chris Snyder, C

I can't even complain. Maybe switch Drew and O-Dawg.
I like. :y:

[The Miz]

Yankees on the verge of acquiring Bobby Abreu and Cory Lidle for prospects, reports Jayson Stark

[The Miz]

Abreu taken out of the starting lineup vs. FLA. See ya

1. Damon CF
2. Jeter SS
3. Rodriguez 3B
4. Giambi DH
5. Abreu RF
6. Matsui LF (Cabrera till he gets back)
7. Posada C
8. Phillips 1B
9. Cairo 2B

[ct2k]

LOL

Sal Fasano was just up and he hits a grounder to third and the third baseman bobbles a little but takes his time and throws him out. One of the YES announcers says the third baseman probably read a scouting report on Fasano to know that he doesn't run fast.

The fact that he is just fat probably didn't give it away at all haha

He probably spends too much time on Arther Avenue filling his face with mozzarella and olive oil by the pint

[ct2k]

hmmm, so whatdya reckon about the Abreu rumours, any truth to them?

Another good bat couldn't hurt, although saying that he's been hitting .214 the last 10 days:-\ only 8 HR all year:|