NBA 2007-2008 Season Thread

[RGWhat316]

Can't say I'm too surprised, but Flip Saunders got fired as the Pistons coach. I kinda saw this coming since Pistons went to the finals in 04 and 05. But when Flip came in 06, they haven't been back since. I didn't mind him as a coach, but when a team is at the top and he couldn't keep them there, something is wrong.

[ClockShot]

Flip Saunders is to the NBA as Marty Schottenheimer is to the NFL. They can kick some serious ass in the regular season, but somehow seem to fail during the playoffs.

Flip only had a year left. Maybe if Dumars went and found a big name, Detroit could go back to the finals.

[Jura]

Coaches getting fired left and right. Does Phoenix and Dallas still need a coach? I think Chicago is hiring Collins or already did. I haven't heard anything lately.

[VonErichLives]

Can't say I'm too surprised, but Flip Saunders got fired as the Pistons coach. I kinda saw this coming since Pistons went to the finals in 04 and 05. But when Flip came in 06, they haven't been back since. I didn't mind him as a coach, but when a team is at the top and he couldn't keep them there, something is wrong.

they should have given him another year, Billups was injured.

[SammyG]

CHAUNCEY, B-B-B-BILLUPS

[IC Champion]

Flip Saunders is to the NBA as Marty Schottenheimer is to the NFL. They can kick some serious ass in the regular season, but somehow seem to fail during the playoffs.

Flip only had a year left. Maybe if Dumars went and found a big name, Detroit could go back to the finals.

Detriot suffers from lack of motivation, and their one big man doesn't show up half the time. Saunders shouldn't have been fired. He'll go somewhere else and win I'm sure.

[SammyG]

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/8607/lwohc3.jpg

[MCEazy]

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/8607/lwohc3.jpg

Awesome shit :D

[SammyG]

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y26/Jimmoo/flag.jpg

[VonErichLives]

http://www.thelakerssuck.com/funny_uploads/4gi7ns.jpg

[VonErichLives]

Jackson wants this one bad, and he wants it in Boston so he can light a cigar in the Garden like Red used to.

He and Red never liked each other, Red made some comments a few years back how Jackson doesn't stick with a team when they get bad and try and rebuild, how he was just picking and choosing a team that would win and make more money, where Red turned down a lot of money from the Knicks to stay with Boston.

Also in fairness the "player coach" championships were as much Red as they were Rusell or Heinson.

[IC Champion]

This will be Phil's 10th ring as a Coach. Which is one more than Red. I like Phil Jackson myself.

[SammyG]

lol Jackson looks exactly like the KFC Guy, just like D'antoni reminds me of the Pringles guy.

Coaching wise, this series is not even close. Phil>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Rivers.

[IC Champion]

Rivers has been outcoached at almost every turn in the playoffs.

[alvarado52]

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/8607/lwohc3.jpg

that pictures a rip off of the slam cover with Miles, Odom, and Brand a few years back.

[Juan]

I'm not looking forward to ABC's glamorized, bush league style coverage of the NBA finals.

We need the NBA on NBC back...

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[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

NBA on NBC is the GOAT

Although Van Gundy and Marc Jackson are great on the commentary for ABC

[SammyG]

I agree wholeheartedly.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

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[SammyG]

Two red X's.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Really? Working for me...maybe trying right click copy and paste the link?

I think I wanna get the first shirt but I don't want people who haven't seen He Got Game thinking i'm a Jesus freak or something haha

[McLegend]

Yeah, I get red x's as well.

[Jura]

lol Jackson looks exactly like the KFC Guy, just like D'antoni reminds me of the Pringles guy.

Coaching wise, this series is not even close. Phil>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Rivers.
And Stan Van Gundy looks like Ron Jeremy.

[Jura]

There are rumors of D-wade going to Chicago for the no. 1 draft pick and some other players. So D-Wade plus Beasley or Rose unless the Heat can get both draft picks and have Rose and Beasley on the same team. That'd be interested if any of it is true. Also the finals are starting tomorrow!

[SammyG]

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[SammyG]

I see Rondo is preparing by having his legs amputated

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[Juan]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/og_loc87/ept_sports_nba_experts-738539230-12.jpg

Creepy. :wtf:

[SammyG]

I think it's sweet.

[SammyG]

OK. It's time. I am quite nervous about game 1 actually, I don't think it is probable that we will win. If there's a game we can steal in Boston I think it's game 2. But here's hoping to a huge win tonight.

[IC Champion]

Nah, Lakers got this shit tonight, you gotta have faith Sammy.

[Jura]

There's gonna be a lot of energy tonight and Boston will pull through.

[Juan]

I have a feeling that Boston is gonna take game 1, but I'm afraid that's gonna give everyone an excuse to say the Lakers suck. :(

[MCEazy]

I think they'll do ight tonite, they've beaten some of the best teams at home on the road these playoffs (ie. Utah & San Antonio), they just have to be able to contain KG and pierce which is no easy task mind you, but if Pau can actually be aggressive, Odom and fisher consistent and Kobe simply being kobe, i think we can take this one.

[SammyG]

Omfg 28 minutes away.

[Juan]

I think they'll do ight tonite, they've beaten some of the best teams at home on the road these playoffs (ie. Utah & San Antonio), they just have to be able to contain KG and pierce which is no easy task mind you, but if Pau can actually be aggressive, Odom and fisher consistent and Kobe simply being kobe, i think we can take this one.

I feel better now. :D

[McLegend]

Heads will roll if they show an old Dr. J embracing Larry Bird or some other Celtic courtside.

[RP]

If Bird shows up, I hope he brought Jamaal Tinsley with him and leaves him.

[VonErichLives]

I don't expect Larry there since he works for another team, but expect a lot of the old Celtics there, heck even Kareem is here, promoting his book also, a friend of mine is a manager at a mall and Kareem wants to do a book signing so he got assigned to "escort" him around... how the fuck does a 5'10 guy escort a 7footer anywhere? :)

[SammyG]

Fuckkkkk, so nervous/excited. This is huge.

[RP]

lol worst national anthem ever.

[RP]

WHY THE FUCK ARE THE CELTICS TURNING THE LIGHTS OUT AND PLAYING MUSIC FOR THE LAKERS? WTF LOL

WOWWWWWWWW

[RP]

I cant believe Boston is letting the Lakers get this introduction. OMG

[RP]

LOL They put Brian Scalabrini's name on Tony Allen. Fantastic.

[RP]

LOL THEY didnt even show Scalabrini or announce him

[RP]

This feels like a wrestling ppv. I hope Kobe score 90.

[McLegend]

I don't expect Larry there since he works for another team, but expect a lot of the old Celtics there, heck even Kareem is here, promoting his book also, a friend of mine is a manager at a mall and Kareem wants to do a book signing so he got assigned to "escort" him around... how the fuck does a 5'10 guy escort a 7footer anywhere? :)

Kareem was always a bitch.

[RP]

I'm really pumped for this. The only thing that would be better is if KG dunked on someone and then screamed and flexxed and then got speared by Bob Sanders at mid court.

[Juan]

I hate ABC :mad:

How did Pau Gasol help turn the Lakers around in the regular season, when we were already the best team in the west?!?

[Juan]

I mean, I'll admit that he helped, but it's not like we were in last place before we got him.

[RP]

KOBEEEEE

[McLegend]

I hate ABC :mad:

How did Pau Gasol help turn the Lakers around in the regular season, when we were already the best team in the west?!?
I'm sure the Lakers would have sustained that with Kwame Brown as Center.

Seriously now.

[Juan]

Kwame was seeing limited playing time, since Bynum was emerging.

[IC Champion]

And where has Bynum been? Are you trying to make his point for him?

[IC Champion]

lol at Pierce actually being carried off.

[Juan]

Bynum was getting minutes, we were #1 in the west WITH Kwame in the line-up. Bynum gets injured so we get Gasol and stay on top. Where's the turn-around?

[RP]

Did Pierce shit on himself? Is that why they were carrying him out like that.

[Juan]

http://www.derok.net/images/sports/sam%20cassell%20celtics.jpg = http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/db/Bio-roger.jpg

[RP]

ROFL Cassell is horrible right now. Why is Eddie House not playing?

[Jura]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/db/Bio-roger.jpg > http://www.derok.net/images/sports/sam%20cassell%20celtics.jpg

[McLegend]

Bynum was getting minutes, we were #1 in the west WITH Kwame in the line-up. Bynum gets injured so we get Gasol and stay on top. Where's the turn-around?

EXACTLY MY FUCKING POINT.

WHEN GASOL WAS GIVEN TO THE LAKERS. KWAME WAS PLAYING, BECAUSE BYNUM WAS INJURED. THE GASOL ALLOWED THE LAKERS STAY ON TOP.

SERIOUSLY.

[SammyG]

As heartbroken as I am right now, I have hope for game 2. The Lakers simply missed shots down the stretch, 5-23 or something, come on now. We could have had this game, that's what hurts the most about this. Garnett was a monster, as usual. It's frustrating right now, but here's hoping to winning game 2. Kobe really let me down in the 4th, completely non-existant. Big ups to Fisher.

[Juan]

EXACTLY MY FUCKING POINT.

WHEN GASOL WAS GIVEN TO THE LAKERS. KWAME WAS PLAYING, BECAUSE BYNUM WAS INJURED. THE GASOL ALLOWED THE LAKERS STAY ON TOP.

SERIOUSLY.

Key words STAY ON TOP. The douche on TV said that Gasol helped the Lakers turn it around. Turn what around?? That was my point.

[Juan]

I see Phil making the proper adjustments for game 2. The Lakers couldn't get a shot down at all in the 4th, that's probably not gonna happen again in game 2. I'm still optimistic.

[SammyG]

Yeah, I'm tryna be optimistic for game 2. Right now I'm crushed though.

[McLegend]

Key words STAY ON TOP. The douche on TV said that Gasol helped the Lakers turn it around. Turn what around?? That was my point.

The Lakers were like 3rd or 4th in the West when they got Gasol.When Bynum went down no one thought they would compete in the playoffs let alone get to the finals. Then low and behold Lakers are given Gasol, and everyone picks them to win the Championship for this year and the next 5 years.

Isn't that turning it around?

Even if the Lakers were 1st in the standing... Can you truly be on top when Kwame Brown was your starting Center for those games after Byum was injured?

[ron the dial]

BEAT LA

fuck yeah. pretty solid game. i thought kg was going to tear that fucking place down, but it was good to see pierce step it up in the second half. i really like that rondo guy, too. glad i started watching again.

[McLegend]

lol Sam Cassell though.

[DaveWadding]

LA LA LA LA LA LA LA

LAKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE SHOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

[VonErichLives]

Nah, Lakers got this shit tonight, you gotta have faith Sammy.

:rofl:

I cant believe Boston is letting the Lakers get this introduction. OMG

my only guess is Boston gets the same in LA and it was required by the NBA.

ROFL Cassell is horrible right now. Why is Eddie House not playing?

he was hot early, all he is, is a shooter... but WTF... Sam Cassell who has never seen a shot he doesn't like, is open and lets the clock run out... WTF, I really can't stand Cassell.

that all said, great game. Did LA miss some shots? sure, but so did Boston.

I tell ya, when Pierce was down at first it was like no big deal, they bumped knees, then when he grabed his knee... fuck... the guy trying to block the camera and michelle tafoye chasing them were funny.

The rebound dunk by Garnett near the end was sick.

can't wait for game 2, this whole series will be a dog fight... the NBA is thrilled, TV is thrilled and Basketball fans are thrillllllllllllled!

the Magic/Bird thing was funny, especially because Bird usually doesn't do stuff like that.

[SammyG]

LA LA LA LA LA LA LA

LAKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE SHOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
Are you fucking kidding me? How can you talk shit, when your team was knocked out in the first round? GTFO with that shit.

[SammyG]

I feel pretty confident after watching the pressers. Went out and had a long walk after the game to cool down, it was all good. Kobe, as he said, just missed a bunch of shots he normally hits, I'm sure we'll be fine. Game 2 is the one I always thought we could take anyway, wasn't too optimistic about game 1.

[Jeritron]

w00t

[Jeritron]

Fuckin Celts baby. Peirce is the real star. I mean, Allen is wet and KG is a monster. But I really think the focus, if there has to be a focus, should be on Pierce vs Kobe. That's the Magic/Bird logically if they must create one. It's about 2 team leaders who've been there the whole way.
Nothing away from KG, I've been ecstatic ever since getting him.

This is such an epic finals. Fuck having to wait so long between games.

[Loose Cannon]

what is wrong with you SammyG? chill out. is the Lakers the only meanigful thing in your life or something? fuck, you remind me of those loser sports nut characters in Celtic Pride. you act like you're going to commit suicide because they lost Game 1

I understand you're a die hard fan, but what the fuck?

[ron the dial]

lol i'm gonna love it when the lake show loses the whole thing and samuelg FLIPS OUT

[Jura]

If Boston wins the title are you going to cry Sammy?

[MCEazy]

Shit Kobe didn't hit alot of those jumpers he usually does, the celtics have a really good interior D so its gonna be tough for kobe to penetrate, then again every bad game Kobe's ever had, he usually bounces back the next game so i'm not too worried.

[SammyG]

lol what the fuck. I am not going crazy over the game 1 loss. It was expected. Game 2 is huge though. Like Jalen Rose just said, whoever wins that will probably win the series.

[SammyG]

lol i'm gonna love it when the lake show loses the whole thing and samuelg FLIPS OUT
Give me a break. When the hell did you become a hardcore Celtics fan. I'm sure you can't even name the players on that team.

[ron the dial]

never said i was a hardcore celtics fan. i'm not. what does that have to do with laughing at you for being a lakers (who i've always hated fyi) fan? chill out, buddy.

and i could name them because i have an amazing memory and would remember their names from learning them yesterday, but that doesn't prove anything since i could have just looked them up on the internet. all i know is that they have pj brown and i remember him from when i actually did watch basketball.

[Loose Cannon]

"As heartbroken as I am right now, I have hope"


"Yeah, I'm tryna be optimistic.. Right now I'm crushed though."


"Went out and had a long walk to cool down, it was all good."


Which situation most closely describes where these posts would stem from?

a) death in the family

b) loss of job

c) divorce pending

d) reaction to Game 1 of the 2008 NBA Finals

e) a, b, and c

you see what I mean there?

[Juan]

The guy loves his team, what's the big deal? Are there certain guidelines regarding how to react to this type of situation?

[Loose Cannon]

do you go outside and take a long walk after a Game 1 loss too Mr. Valdez?

[Jeritron]

Sammy G, to say you didn't flip out is a lie. You said you punched and threw shit and were heartbroken, and went out for a long walk to let off steam. Suddenly you were all "I expected them to lose, it's okay Lakeshows gonna bounce back".

Granted theres a lot of basketball left to play. You should have believed me about how good the celtics are, and how good their D is. It's all about depth. Sure, Kobe goes nuts sometimes and takes over the game. Lets see him do that with D on him like this. He also can't compare to 3 powerhouses who can take over the game in similar fashion

[Jeritron]

P.S., the Celtics played as bad as they really will play last night, and still won by 10

[Juan]

do you go outside and take a long walk after a Game 1 loss too Mr. Valdez?

Well, I'll admit that I wasn't too thrilled, but before the 4th quarter ended, I was already thinking of the adjustments we need to make for game 2. I wasn't really that worked up over it. Maybe I'll semi-slip out if we lose game 2 also.

[ron the dial]

to be fair kobe did miss a lot of fucking shots last night that he normally makes. so if he gets his shit together it's going to be a lot closer, or go the other way. but like tron said, boston's defense is sick. what's going to make or break this whole thing are the games in LA. boston needs to get their shit together on the road, and they definitely need to take game 2.

[Jeritron]

never said i was a hardcore celtics fan. i'm not. what does that have to do with laughing at you for being a lakers (who i've always hated fyi) fan? chill out, buddy.

and i could name them because i have an amazing memory and would remember their names from learning them yesterday, but that doesn't prove anything since i could have just looked them up on the internet. all i know is that they have pj brown and i remember him from when i actually did watch basketball.

They have Kevin Garnett, Ray Allen, Paul Peirce. Surely Sammy can't expect anyone to have ever heard of them

[ron the dial]

who the fuck is kevin garnett?

[Jeritron]

I don't doubt Kobe could play better, but a lot is the pressure of our D on him. He's not gonna run all over the Celtics D. It's not about stopping him, thats impossible, but they can contain him extremely effectively.

Also, the Celtics didn't play their best. Honestly, they played as bad as they will. This team is fucking good. I've watched nearly every game of theirs. They're being severely underestimated, and they can and will play better.

[Jeritron]

lol at people thinking the Peirce injury was some kind of work. Anyone who knew anything about basketball and/or Peirce they would know theres no way he would want to be out of the game for a moment longer than he had to. He walked out there on a sprain and played on it. It was a precaution.
Unless he had to it never would have happened. The dude's like Cal Ripken.

Only the supporters/media of the team who lost would say something like that

[Jeritron]

Not that it matters, because he came out and dropped two 3s that pretty much meant the end of the game.

I think the LA fans just didn't like it because they got excited about the prospect of playing a lessened Celtics and then had their hopes shattered

[Jura]

It would be a good idea though. If your team needs that big push, faking an injury and then coming back like you are on top of the world would turn things around/in your favor.

[SammyG]

I completely think that that injury was exaggerated ridiculously.

[Jeritron]

Please

[Juan]

Yeah, I don't think he FAKED the injury, but like Sammy said, it was way EXAGGERATED. He came out hopping up and down FFS.

[ron the dial]

yeah but his return to the floor lit that fucking building up, and there's nothing that boosts team morale more than a hot crowd. exaggerated or not, it worked in boston's favor.

[Jura]

Phil Jackson was smart to call a time-out when he came in the game though.

[ron the dial]

that's because phil jackson is the best coach in history.

[VonErichLives]

Nah, Lakers got this shit tonight, you gotta have faith Sammy.

I'm almost afraid IC if you don't pick LA for Sunday night it's going the jinx Boston...

Rivers has been outcoached at almost every turn in the playoffs.

Which has been true 100% (ok, maybe not against Detroit), except game 1... how the fuck did Doc out coach Phil Jackson, and I'm not saying that because the Celtics won, that doesn't always mean out coached, but the rotations on Kobe, the use of Cassell then pulling him out when needed... Phil putting Kobe on the bench in a key situation for a few mins...

If Boston wins the title are you going to cry Sammy?

in fairness, he's a die-hard Lakers fan, win or lose he wil probably cry... but wearing your heart for your team on your sleve is nothing to be laughed at about.

I think in 1985 I cried when the Pats lost to the Bears... of course I was like 9 or 10...

I completely think that that injury was exaggerated ridiculously.

That is by far the dumbest thing you have ever said.

Yeah, I don't think he FAKED the injury, but like Sammy said, it was way EXAGGERATED. He came out hopping up and down FFS.

join the club.

Has either of you ever twisted a knee? It's a sharp pain and you don't know if it's a sprain or a blown ACL at that point, you have your adreneline going masking some of it and a sharp pain in your knee area and it hurts to move it or not move it... now take that and your a pro-athlete, who has never had a serious knee injury and felt that type of pain (Pierce has never had a major knee injury) your in the championship series and besides this pain, flashing through your head is it's all over... As said before, Pierce never would have left the floor if he thought he'd be fine.

Interesting note, he's refusing an MRI. "Either I can play on it or I can't, what the damage is or isn't makes no difference at this point". Hope he doesn't find out after the series he did permanent damage... but my guess is it was just a spain and he'll be good.

that's because phil jackson is the best coach in history.

Red Auerbach over Phil Jackson. Even if Phil gets another ring.

[ron the dial]

i'm a bit biased because i'm a bulls fan and grew up watching phil jackson dominate the league with some of the best teams ever assembled. didn't get to do that with auerbach.

[IC Champion]

Are you simple VEL? I didn't say Jackson outcoached Rivers, though Rivers is an idiot. If you had any intelligence at all, you would know that I said that before the game. I mean, I know you like to look like you know what you doing, and saying but come on.

Using Cassell, lol. Rivers got lucky that cassell made a couple shots, which seems like alot considering how badly Cassell sucks in these playoffs. It was game one, with Boston at home, they should have won.

And when Kobe went to the bench, Lakers actually got closer, and you know, he needed a rest. I suppose you would have played him for 48.

Now VEL like everything else in life, you know little about the sport of basketball. You don't really know what a foul is, or a carry. Your just some retard from Boston or somewhere in the North East who hopped on the bandwagon this year. You just watch the game and hope that Boston scores the most points.

Maybe you've forgotton the first two rounds in the eastern conference, but I have't.

I just find it hard to think that a team who beat Denver, Utah, and Spurs, relatively easily in the first 3 rounds, to lose to a team who had to fight and strggle it's way through the easiest playoff scheduale.

[SammyG]

Game 2 shall belong to the LAAAAAAAAAAAAKE SHOWWWWWWWWWWWW

[VonErichLives]

Are you simple VEL? I didn't say Jackson outcoached Rivers, though Rivers is an idiot. If you had any intelligence at all, you would know that I said that before the game. I mean, I know you like to look like you know what you doing, and saying but come on.


I stopped here, I do like you spazing out when I never said you said Jackson out coached rivers... I addressed your comment on the previous series and then commented on my suprise that Rivers out coached Jackson in game 1.

But go ahead with the personal attack and comments it somehow makes you think you're right.

Call me names, make jokes, when the reality is you've yet to be right on anything.

[VonErichLives]

Game 2 shall belong to the LAAAAAAAAAAAAKE SHOWWWWWWWWWWWW

Someone I know has 4 front row on the court tickets, one of the Celtics owners called him telling him that Jack Nicholson wanted to buy them and offered 250K for all 4.

he said "No, I'm going and taking my 3 sons".

I'd expect game 2 to be a dog fight like the rest of the series, can't see this not going 6 or 7.

[Juan]

Get a room already.

[IC Champion]

I stopped here, I do like you spazing out when I never said you said Jackson out coached rivers... I addressed your comment on the previous series and then commented on my suprise that Rivers out coached Jackson in game 1.

But go ahead with the personal attack and comments it somehow makes you think you're right.

Call me names, make jokes, when the reality is you've yet to be right on anything.

LOL

[Jura]

Someone I know has 4 front row on the court tickets, one of the Celtics owners called him telling him that Jack Nicholson wanted to buy them and offered 250K for all 4.

he said "No, I'm going and taking my 3 sons".

I'd expect game 2 to be a dog fight like the rest of the series, can't see this not going 6 or 7.
Either that guy is well off or the game means more to him than money.

[McLegend]

Fuck Celtics/Lakers. I'd much rather have 250G's.

[SammyG]

Yyyyyeah, I'm thinking I'd definitely take the money over the seats... It's not like it's a game 7.

[MCEazy]

i'd prolly try to fuk with Nicholson to get more money for them, he's a millionare so he could prolly afford 1 million flat for 4 seats lol

[therocksays]

you can't beat Boston at home.

but these are two juggernaut teams going at each other, this will be a good series, I dont think ive seen this good of a match up since Jordan's bulls and the Utah jazz back in 98' .

it will go 7 games i'm sure.

[Jura]

Listen to the crowd, especially when Michael is introduced.

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[ron the dial]

best fucking intros in history

[Heros Welcome]

Thought this is pretty sweet so I thought I would share.

I work at a country club, and I was working a bamitzvah and a friend of mine comes up to me an goes, holy shit David Stern is here. I said get the hell outta here. I went onto the floor and looked around to see if he was telling the truth. I look and I look and I see no one. Then I look right next to me, sure enough he was standing right there.

[Juan]

Nice :cool:

[ClockShot]

Suns hire Terry Porter to head coach vacancy.

[RP]

Suns hire Terry Porter to head coach vacancy.

The Suns are officially no longer a contender for a title . HAHA

[SammyG]

6 hours away.

[Jura]

5 hours.

[IC Champion]

4 hours.

[SammyG]

I didn't mean to start a countdown thread.

3 hours, 56 minutes.

[VonErichLives]

Either that guy is well off or the game means more to him than money.

I think he's a bank VP, I said I'd take the money, over pay for someone elses seats and still pocket 200K.

at game 1, there were 2 lakers fans sitting on floor seats next to the Celtics bench, there is a story going around they bought the tickets for 50K each, and that one of the Celtics owners called the person who had the tickets and told them if they ever sold their seats to visiting team fans again he'd take their season tickets away.

[Jura]

lol 3 hours away.

[SammyG]

The winner of this game will win the series.

[Juan]

http://members.dslextreme.com/users/markied/images/ppierce.jpg

[SammyG]

lol god damnit, I was gonna post that. Did you get that from Clublakers, Juan?

[Juan]

I think the person I stole that from, stole it from ClubLakers. I usually troll around at LakersGround.net.

[SammyG]

Yeah, I get on LG, too, but post on CL.

[Juan]

Gasoft who?!??!?

[alvarado52]

this is the worst officiated game ive seen in a long time. EVERYTIME the Lakers get on D, a foul is called...that Turiaf block, you kidding me?

[Sepholio]

lol Lakers getting destroyed. 62-46 right now.

Kobe needs to watch the fouls and get his fg% up if the Lakers are going to win even ONE game in this series. He's supposed to be the MVP for crying out loud.

[Boomer]

Not so fast. Lakers answering pretty well.

[Boomer]

Well there that run went down the drain...

[McLegend]

Meltdown.

[SammyG]

Ok, this is seriously a terribly officiated game, and you can just look at the free throws to understand why. But nahhh.. we are playing like complete shit. We shouldnt even be here. I'm raelly close to giving up for the whole series. 2-0... shit's rough.

[Sepholio]

Peirce with the SICK behind-the-back fake then dish to Rondo for the J.

Celts up 22 at end of 3rd. This is officially over.

Unless it is revealed in an M. Night Shyamalan style twist that Kobe Bryant is actually Jesus and he goes on a 40-0 run by himself.

[alvarado52]

the officials are wearing celtic jerseys under their shirts. The Lakers, like they said, arent shooting terrible...but when the other team takes 20 more free throws than you, yeah...you could be down by, omg...20 points? There's your difference. Beyond Pierce being a drama queen, its not that i dont even dislike the Celts. Last game we lost a close, good game, but this...the refs gave the Celts this one.

[McLegend]

DONVANN F. MCNABB

[alvarado52]

oddly i dont feel bad though. The Celts have shown they cant win for shit on the road, and they have 3 straight in LA. Even if the Lakers dont walk away with the championship this year, there is no way the Celts will get another one after this season.

When the Lakers got to the Finals this year it was a pleasant surprise.

Next year when we have Bynum back at center, are you kidding me? Thought we made it to the finals easy this year?

[SammyG]

Yeah, we aren't playing well at all, but these refs... oh my GOD. Cetics have 25 moer free throws than us or some shit.

[McLegend]

Does everyone that the Celtics beat the Pistons twice on the road last series?

So they have shown they can win for shit on the road.

[SammyG]

RIGHT NOW:

Lakers 6-6 from the line
Celtics 22-30

COME ON

[McLegend]

I will call right now that the Lakers will have a ridiclious foul shot total in some game in LA.

It's clearly going to happen. Yes though this has been terrible officating.

[McLegend]

Probably even 2 games.

[Sepholio]

Yea the refs are garbage, but hell, when have the refs ever followed the book in any game in the last 10 years. This is clearly a skewed game though with the Lakers getting the short straw.

Imagine how many penalties would be called if they called legit travelling. Isn't it supposed to be 2 steps then the 3rd is travelling? In the NBA you have like 4-5 steps half the time lol

[Juan]

Too little, too late I'm afraid, Mr. Bryant.

[SammyG]

Seph, it's not the travelling calls I'm pissed about. The Lakers are getting hacked, and the refs are not calling ANYTHING. This is pathetic. I hate these refs.

[SammyG]

34 fts for boston.
8 for the lakers.

[SammyG]

LOL DID ANYONE JUST SEE KOBE GET FUCKING GRABBED WITH NO CALL, COME ON

[Boomer]

lol wow 4 point game

[SammyG]

WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK WHAT WHAT WHAT 4 POINT GAME WHAT THE FUCK

[Juan]

HOLY SHIT 4 point game!!

[alvarado52]

Peirce with the SICK behind-the-back fake then dish to Rondo for the J.

Celts up 22 at end of 3rd. This is officially over.

Unless it is revealed in an M. Night Shyamalan style twist that Kobe Bryant is actually Jesus and he goes on a 40-0 run by himself.


THE HAPPENING!
4 points

[IC Champion]

OMG!!!!!!!!!

[IC Champion]

Even if the Lakers lose, this gives them hope.

[IC Champion]

Over now boys.

I have to question the decison making on that play

[Loose Cannon]

um....lol

[IC Champion]

And the Celtics HANG on yet again.

[IC Champion]

Pretty much the story of the playoffs for Boston.

[Juan]

Fuck :(

[SammyG]

Meh, we lost, but that was still a hell of a comeback. Reason we lost : refs.

[alvarado52]

good luck in LA Celts...especially with that breakdown

[Loose Cannon]

Pretty much the story of the playoffs for Boston.

what's LA's story? falling short

[IC Champion]

Meh, we lost, but that was still a hell of a comeback. Reason we lost : refs.

It was a very poorly officiated game to say the least.

[IC Champion]

what's LA's story? falling short

Well they are still atleast 2 games away from falling short.

[alvarado52]

Seriously though, nobody with even the slightest basketball knowledge can deny the lop sided calls...35 to 10? God damn.

[SammyG]

Seriously, 25 more free throws guys. 25.

Hopefully this gives us some confidence.

[McLegend]

If Boston wins game 3 the officating will be horrendous in games 4 and 5.

[Juan]

We better get 30+ calls for each of the games in LA!

[McLegend]

That will probably happen.

[ron the dial]

and the lakers would have gotten away with it, too...if it wasn't for those meddling referees!

[ron the dial]

seriously can't believe boston gave up a lead that sick. lazy fucking basketball is what that was.

[Juan]

I think I'm finally buying into the whole David Stern = Vince McMahon conspiracy. It's no secret that the league wanted the Lakers/Celtics in the Finals. Now I'm sure they're milking this so the series goes 7 games.

[Juan]

And for what??

RATINGS

:nono:

[McLegend]

Well they would get mad money ads and shit.

Ratings=Money.

[McLegend]

On a side note... How bout that great defense on Paul Pierce though?

[ron the dial]

how about that great defense on powe?

[SammyG]

ROFL is anyone watching the press conference?

"The fact that Leon Po-we, err, I mean Powe, sorry to mispronounce his name, shot more free throws than our entire team is ridiculous"

I love Phil. Think of that. A bench player for the Celtics shot more free throws than the LAKERS. COME THE FUCK ON.

[Sepholio]

I bet Phil is uber pissed right now. I can almost see the sour look on his face.

[SammyG]

lol if any boston fan actually brags about this win. The refereeing was so blatantly bad. MAD obvious. Even if the Lakers won this game, and we shot 25 more free throws, and it was THIS obvious, I wouldn't feel that great about it. Absolutely fucking terrible.

[ron the dial]

a win is a win. if it were the other way you would take it, too.

lol @ phil jackson though. he was great on the press conference. good points.

[McLegend]

C'mon we all know you would be estastic.

[DaveWadding]

LOL LOL LOL

LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE SHOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

[SammyG]

... k wadding.

Seriously, take a look at this. Leon Powe played 15 minutes. And he shot more free throws than the whole fucking Lakers team, in 48 minutes. Are you kidding me?

[SammyG]

Reporter: Paul, why do you play good when you go back to your hometown of LA?

Pierce: I dunno. I like the balls in LA

[McLegend]

Playing devils advocate here.

Kobe is the only one who takes the ball to the net. Now he is even settling for jump shots more. So his free throw numbers are gonna go down.

Almost every other player on the Lakers is a pussy foreign player who shoots jumpers. So there should be some disparity between the two teams.

[McLegend]

Yes I realize Luke Walton, Jordan Famer, and Derek Fisher aren't foreigners.

They are jump shooters though.

[DaveWadding]

... k wadding.

Seriously, take a look at this. Leon Powe played 15 minutes. And he shot more free throws than the whole fucking Lakers team, in 48 minutes. Are you kidding me?


As long as the Lakers lose, I don't really care.

[ron the dial]

i like pau gasol a lot. he could be more aggressive, but he's definitely willing to take it to the hole.

[Juan]

Playing devils advocate here.

Kobe is the only one who takes the ball to the net. Now he is even settling for jump shots more. So his free throw numbers are gonna go down.

Almost every other player on the Lakers is a pussy foreign player who shoots jumpers. So there should be some disparity between the two teams.

Good point, but...

Leon Powe played 15 minutes. And he shot more free throws than the whole fucking Lakers team, in 48 minutes.

The disparity is way too great.

[Ninti the Mad]

ROFL

Thats exactly how I felt when the Spurs played LA.

This is awesome seeing LA get the same treatment.

[Juan]

Here are the FT attempts for the WCF

Game 1: LAL-18 SAS-17
Game 2: LAL-20 SAS-10
Game 3: LAL-17 SAS-23
Game 4: LAL-19 SAS-26
Game 5: LAL-18 SAS-18

Here are the attempts so far for the Finals

Game 1: LAL-28 BOS-35
Game 2: LAL-10 BOS-38

[SammyG]

That totally proves how much of an idiot you are, Ninti. You shot 2 more free throws than us. Dumbass.

[Ninti the Mad]

I'm talking about the non-calls that would.... how do you say... not get called.


If anyone is an idiot, its you for not understanding what I meant and making assumptions.

[Juan]

Be clearer next time :mad:

[Ninti the Mad]

NEVAR

[Jeritron]

SammyG, you're being a clown

[Jeritron]

Just be happy the Celts got lazy and it wasn't a 25-35 point blowout

You're spazzing out about shit thats unfounded, just because you're upset that the Lakers lost. There weren't many fouls because the Lakers play shitty D and don't draw offensives and foul a ton and/or let the Celts march right up, and on their end Kobe's the only one who drives offensively to draw fouls, which he did

[ron the dial]

i loved kobe's response to the question about the difference in the two teams free throws: "i didn't notice." with that shit eating grin on his face.

[Sepholio]

i loved kobe's response to the question about the difference in the two teams free throws: "i didn't notice." with that shit eating grin on his face.

LOL yea. That grin should be taken as the secret signal to the refs waiting in LA, you know, letting them know that it's on.

[VonErichLives]

a wins a win.

I admit, I fell asleep when they were up over 20, so I missed the melt down, and that does concern me that they took their foot off the gas,

The refs did suck, they weren't letting the teams "play", I didn't like the first 2 calls on Kobe, the 3rd call was good when he tried to run through a pick. Then the play he complained about the replay showed he didn't get touched.

I don't think you'll see a lopsided game foul calls in LA in LA's favor.

As someone pointed out here, except Kobe, no one on LA drives to the basket and if you don't drive you're not going to get the calls.

Look at all the calls the Celtics got, they were driving to the hoop.

I will say "Paul Gasoft" didn't play that way last night, he was actually agressive and drove to the hoop, for LA to have a shot at taking all 3 in LA he has to keep doing that.

The Lakers are a Finese Offense and that type of team will always have trouble against a physical defense.

I do find it funny (in LA's defense) that when they run through teams they're a "high powered offense" and then when they don't win they're a "soft team". They are what they are a finese offense that relies on jump shots and fast ball movement to find the open player. No argument it got them this far, but if they want to beat Boston and they want to get foul calls they MUST start driving to the basket.

[VonErichLives]

oddly i dont feel bad though. The Celts have shown they cant win for shit on the road, and they have 3 straight in LA.

as pointed out, Detroit plays much more physical then LA does, and they won 2 in Detroit.

there is no way the Celts will get another one after this season.


Really? why?

Garnett 4 more years
Pierce 3 more years
Allen 2 more years
Perkins 3 more years
Rondo 1 yr then team option so figure 2 more at least.

Who are they going to lose?

Cassell? PJ Brown? Cassell is a role player, Brown has been great but he can be replaced, someone will want to go to Boston for a "Discount" to try and win a title.

The Celtics will continue to compete (baring injuries) for 2-3 years, possible longer depending on who they can sign or draft.

[Jura]

lol Robert Horry on the Celtics.

[VonErichLives]

lol Robert Horry on the Celtics.

The "Horry Factor".

[Juan]

Just in case someone thinks that the Lakers didn't get calls because they didn't attack the rim...

Shots in the paint: Lakers 35 Celtics 19

[Juan]

WTF

God damn double post :mad::foc:

[SammyG]

OMG Did not know that. That angers me.

[Ninti the Mad]

Just in case someone thinks that the Lakers didn't get calls because they didn't attack the rim...

Shots in the paint: Lakers 35 Celtics 19

Shots in the paint doesnt nessecarily mean attacking the rim so to speak. They could've been fade aways and jump shots after pussying out of a shot.

[Juan]

Fair enough.

[ClockShot]

Agent Zero opts out of his contract with the Wizards.

[Juan]

I know the horse is dead, but...

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[SammyG]

:mad:

[Juan]

The drama begins...

Ex-referee Tim Donaghy blows whistle on NBA dirty secrets

By JOHN MARZULLI
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER

Tuesday, June 10th 2008, 4:10 PM
Tim Donaghy, who pleaded guilty to charges of betting on games he officiated, is now airing NBA's dirty laundry. Murphy/Getty


Ex-NBA referee Tim Donaghy told the feds two refs fixed the outcome of one playoff series - and that officials were told not to eject star players from games for fear of hurting ticket sales.

The bombshell allegations are contained in a court document filed Tuesday by Donaghy's lawyer. It describes the “inner workings" of the NBA in which top league executives used referees to manipulate games.

Donaghy, who pleaded guilty in Brooklyn Federal Court to charges of betting on games he officiated, told FBI agents “league officials would tell referees that they should withhold calling technical fouls on certain star players because doing so hurt ticket sales and television ratings," the document said.

Donaghy claims he was told that two refs who were “company men” acting in the interest of the NBA conspired to extend a playoff series in 2002 to a seventh game.

The referees allegedly ignored flagrant fouls committed by the team that needed to win. They also reportedly called "made-up fouls" against the other team which led to the ejection of two of their players. The team favored by the refs won that night and the next game to win the series.

The document does not name the teams. The Nets were in that playoff series, losing the championship finals to the Los Angeles Lakers.

Donaghy also claimed a supervising referee told refs that an unidentified NBA executive did not want them to call technical fouls on star players or boot them from the game.

Donaghy told feds the league reprimanded a referee who disobeyed that edict in January 2000 and ejected an unnamed star player from a game in the first quarter.

Lawyer John Lauro filed the four-page letter to Federal Judge Carol Amon because none of the information was included in the government’s letter to the judge seeking leniency for Donaghy when he is sentenced next month.

Lauro has gone to war against Brooklyn federal prosecutors for offering plea deals to Donaghy's betting accomplices that give them less time than the disgraced ref, despite his extensive cooperation.

Donaghy claims referees have accepted autographs, free merchandise and meals from team coaches and managers. He told probers one referee used a team's practice facility to exercise and another played tennis with an NBA coach.

"These activities were against NBA rules, indeed, such inappropriate relationships could influence the outcome of games," Lauro wrote.

Lauro said he withheld the names of the teams, referees and league officials because the feds may still investigate the allegations.

[ron the dial]

that's news? i just assume that all sports are fixed in some respect.

[SammyG]

There was only one playoff series that year that went to 7... Lakers-Kings. And i remember their coach flipping out on the refs after game 6.

[Juan]

Game 3 will be MAKE IT OR BREAK IT for the Lakers!

[Sepholio]

I haven't seen reffing this bad in a long time.

Since game 2 to be exact.

Look at Kobe's halftime interview. He's all like "We are playing the exact same as we did in game 2." He says this with a huge grin on his face. Probably because all the calls are going the other way now lol. It is like almost exact opposite of game 2 in terms of statistics or something, it is crazy.

[Jura]

Boston has taken the leaddddddddddddddd.

[McLegend]

Looks like Odom is getting confused again.

[RP]

COMON KOBEEEEEEEEEEEEEE STOP THINKING ABOUT RAPING WHITE WOMEN

[Sepholio]

Kobe: Who cares about another title guys! Lets find us some white wimminz.

[Sepholio]

rofl@ Kobe getting mad over the refs calling a legit fall on him.

Kobe: YOU GUYS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE CHEATING FOR US 2NITE!
Ref: FUCK MAN I'M SORRY JUST DON'T RAPE MY WIFE OK.

This series is gonna be great lol.

Edit: Also the Lakers would be killing the Celtics if Gasol wasn't a one man suck-fest tonight.

[alvarado52]

as pointed out, Detroit plays much more physical then LA does, and they won 2 in Detroit.



Really? why?

Garnett 4 more years
Pierce 3 more years
Allen 2 more years
Perkins 3 more years
Rondo 1 yr then team option so figure 2 more at least.

Who are they going to lose?

Cassell? PJ Brown? Cassell is a role player, Brown has been great but he can be replaced, someone will want to go to Boston for a "Discount" to try and win a title.

The Celtics will continue to compete (baring injuries) for 2-3 years, possible longer depending on who they can sign or draft.


1) I like how you point out THE ONLY TWO road wins the Celts got this year, ignoring the fact that they lost every road game to the HAWKS and the 1 man gang Cavaliers...so yeah, they CANT win for shit on the road...which leads to to....

2) For all intents and purpose, the Lakers shouldnt have won tonight. They played like shit, it just so happens, as stated earlier, the Celts cant seem to do it on the road. Sure, if the Lakers hit free throws, or if Gasol didnt look scared as shit everytime he touched the ball, theyd have a commanding lead the whole game, but there is no doubt the Celts choked on the road...again.

3) The Celtics will contend, yes, but lets be real...with Bynum in the Lakers lineup, do you think this would be the series it is? C'mon, Perkins would get fould out and Bynum would put up 20-10 consistently, leaving Gasol and Odom available to kill. Lets say the Lakers DONT make it to the championship, no chance in hell the Celts would get passed the Spurs, or hell, the SUNS for that matter...both those teams have a bench to rival their starters.


kthnxbye

[Juan]

Lakers with the Dubya!

[SammyG]

Well, I am glad we won, but I didn't see that dominant performance I expected in game 3, in a MUST win game. Lamar Odom was fucking atrocious, and don't even get me started on Pau. Fucking vag. Sasha was tremendous, I love the machine, and Mamba was Mamba. I am happy about the win, but we are gonna have to play way better if we wanna win games 4 and 5 in LA.

[Juan]

Oh and in case anyone is interested, free throw attempts...

LAL- 34
BOS- 22

[SammyG]

We got a lot of questionable calls tonight, I will admit that. I'm still not too thrilled about this. a W is a W, but we need to play better.

[ron the dial]

that was a really ugly game on both sides tonight.

[ron the dial]

lol shit to the window

[SammyG]

http://kellymlee.googlepages.com/oscar1.jpg

[ron the dial]

fucking paul pierce was straight pissing me off tonight. couldn't do shit and needed to stop trying. fuck even garnett wasn't doing shit besides rebounding. it seemed like they were afraid to take it to the hole.

[El Fangel]

Tell me Sammy, how much jizz is on your floor right now?

[McLegend]

KG is a bitch.

[ron the dial]

lol okay legend :y:

[SammyG]

KG is a monster, couldnt believe he was so bad tonight. Same with Pierce. Allen was amazing, though. Just like Powe stepped up in game 2, Sasha stepped it up for us tonight at home. Bench players always play best on their home court.

And FA, none is on the floor, as I wasn't too happy with the way we played. Lamar and Pau were awful. Same with Luke, but he is always awful.

[El Fangel]

Would you rather them be down 3-0? Even if they played bad?

[ron the dial]

yeah i like vujacic a lot. he has so much fucking energy. noticed that in game one and i've been a fan since (lol a whole 3 games).

[SammyG]

lol yeah Sasha is the man. Wears a girls headband too, that a Lakers girl gave him. He used to be so bad up to this year, like someone lit a fire up his ass this year or something. He is "The Machine" for a reason.

And no FA, I am pleased with the win.

[SammyG]

and lol @ Doc Rivers. "I'm suprised Phil isn't complaining about the refs tonight"

Douchebag.

[McLegend]

lol okay legend :y:
If you get punked out by Zaza Pachulia. You are a bitch.

I like the fact that he took 21 shots. Shows that he might be learning to man up when it counts. MAYBE.

[ron the dial]

oh yeah no you are definitely right legend. kg is a bitch. for sure. yep.

[McLegend]

A superstar of his Caliber should be able to take over a game, and not shoot 20 foot fadeways that clank off the rim.

[ron the dial]

i'm not going to disagree with that, and i have already stated my displeasure with his performance tonight. but it happens. that doesn't negate the fact that he is a superstar of that caliber. and certainly doesn't make him a bitch.

[McLegend]

i'm not going to disagree with that, and i have already stated my displeasure with his performance tonight. but it happens. that doesn't negate the fact that he is a superstar of that caliber. and certainly doesn't make him a bitch.

It's not just tonight though. He has been like that his whole career.

The bigger moment the smaller KG is. He's afraid.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Shitty ass game but oh well, didn't think there was gonna be a sweep or anything anyway. Really wish Game 5 was in Boston though, especially if the Lakers win game 4

[SammyG]

lol Kobe said shit in his post game conference.

[ron the dial]

lol yeah i saw that live on sportscenter and i did a double take. he's a good interview. and those fucking classy suits.

[SammyG]

Yeah he always looks fly as hell.

[SammyG]

Also what the fuck is up with our missed FTs. Especially Kobe, Pau too. come on.