NBA 2007-2008 Season Thread

[SammyG]

LMFAO SUNS TRADE MARION AND BANKS FOR SHAQ.L LOLLLLLLLLLL

[alvarado52]

damn did we look good despite no Bynum and Kobe only putting up 8. Good debut for Gasol, and i can only imagine how lethal we will be when we move him to the 4 when Bynum comes back. Bynum, Gasol, and Odom in the front court is gonna give opposing teams fits on the boards and defensively.

my bad, Kobe put up 6, and we still won. Thats what im saying. Considering Pau did SO well and doesnt even know the offense yet is another amazing thing, it just shows he fits right in. We gonna be scary.

Also, lol at Shaq going to the Suns. He'll fit right in with the up and down style they run.

[DaveWadding]

Hey, can we stop sucking each other's dicks until the Lakers actually play a team where I couldn't start at PF for them?

[alvarado52]

Hey, can we stop sucking each other's dicks until the Lakers actually play a team where I couldn't start at PF for them?

dont be bitter because your team just instantly got older and slower with one of the stupidest trades since we traded for Kwame.

Fact is, we were good before Pau

now, we are great.

[VonErichLives]

Hey, can we stop sucking each other's dicks until the Lakers actually play a team where I couldn't start at PF for them?

DW, you couldn't start at PF as you are now for the special olympics in wheel chairs..


oh it's been a while since we pissed on each other, don't take it personally!

I may not be able to go to Sundays celtics games... (dangles tickets in front of stima.....)

[SammyG]

lolllllllllll trading marion and banks for shaq lollllll

[D Mac]

Shaq sucks.

[RP]

these trades are fucking fixed or something. Shawn Marion and Marcus Banks for a broken down Shaq and a fuk ton of salary he brings? They could get a younger more productive Jermaine O'neal , with less salary for Shawn Marion alone. NBA needs to stop fixing trades. I realise they want Dwayne Wade with a running partner like Marion, but comon. This makes no sense at all.

[Loose Cannon]

Suns were never going to win a championship without a real center. I love Marion, but seriously, they fall apart in the playoffs all the time because they lack a big man. Not saying Shaq is the answer, but who knows. We've all seen players fall from grace one year and play like a superhero the next. It happens. It'll be intersting when the Suns get into the playoffs. Yes, this takes away a key player to the run and gun Suns, but we'll see. I just want them to win one championship before I die dammit.

[SammyG]

NOT ON MY WATCH

[DaveWadding]

I'm officially on suicide/homicide watch (the victim will be Steve Kerr)

[DaveWadding]

I love Marion, but seriously, they fall apart in the playoffs all the time because they lack a big man.


False, the Suns have a big man who a lazy piece of fucking shit on defense.

[Loose Cannon]

Stad is a power foward. I never saw him as a center. yea, and he sucks on defense. that was the whole problem in 5 or seven game series. They would run up against the Spurs and be fucked. I dunno, they're banking on Shaq being able to play like an all-star again. Hopefully, he can attain that. It's sad to see Marion go as he was an exciting player to watch. The Suns had two of the most gifted natural athletes in the league, but could never pull it off. I read Marion wanted out of the Suns at the start of the season anyway.

[IC Champion]

Shaq for Marion is a good deal for the Heat, clears cap space and they're a lock for the lottery, maybe they can draft a big man, or a decent PG.

[Juan]

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:love:

[SammyG]

lol @ this deal. This is even worse than getting Gasol for Kwame and Critt.

[SammyG]

Kobe dislocated his pinky, btw. Pretty painful stuff.

[RP]

Danny Granger is a superstar caliber player.

[RP]

I simply cannot believe the Heat managed to pull this off. This is a huge fix. Seriously. This is a fucking fix.

[McLegend]

It doesn't make any sense to be a fix.

[SammyG]

lol are we seriously gonna lose to the Hawks.

[Crimson]

Don't see how it could be fixed, although i'm sure Stern is loving this.
You would think they coulda gotten more for Marion though..maybe they pushed the panic button a little too early and started watching Shaq highlights from 10 yrs ago.

[SammyG]

omgggggg down 2 23 seconds left.

[SammyG]

WHAT THE FUCK KOBE WHAT THE FUCK

[DaveWadding]

I don't believe this...my ultimate fantasy when I was 9 years old is coming true....and I am really trying so hard to hate it...but I can't.

[DaveWadding]

LOL
LOL
LOL
LOL
LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE SHOWWWWWWWWWWW

[IC Champion]

I love Charles Barkley.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Wow what a game for Rondo, 10 outta 13 for 24 points and 8 assists. Dude is really starting to put it together

[alvarado52]

LOL
LOL
LOL
LOL
LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE SHOWWWWWWWWWWW

Question though, seriously...how does it feel to be a Suns fan and watch the Lakers 3peat, then tear down their team to bare bones, rebuild, and become top contenders in the west again....this whole time, seeing a team go from cream of the crop to bottom of the barrel, back up to cream....while your team never reaching the finals, let alone a championship?

[McLegend]

Lakers aren't there yet. Might want to chill with that.

[alvarado52]

Lakers aren't there yet. Might want to chill with that.

youre telling me the Lakers havent officially become a threat for a title and the west? You mind explaining to me why you think this or is this just one of those 'Lakers suck, but i dont really watch ball much' things?

[McLegend]

youre telling me the Lakers havent officially become a threat for a title and the west? You mind explaining to me why you think this or is this just one of those 'Lakers suck, but i dont really watch ball much' things?

I'm saying that being a threat is nothing. All playoff teams in the West are threats. Just because the Lakers look good now means nothing.

[McLegend]

And besides The Suns have beaten Lakers how many times in the playoffs over the last few years?

So Wadding can still talk all the shit he wants.

[alvarado52]

I'm saying that being a threat is nothing. All playoff teams in the West are threats. Just because the Lakers look good now means nothing.

and what im saying is all those Suns fans who love to watch the Lakers lose need to realize that we have been at the top, been at the bottom (and while there, pushed them to the brink of elimination), and are arguably ABOVE them, and at the least on their level. And during this entire time span and franchise rebuilding, they have dont nothing but played like a high paced high school team that never really wins a championship.

no championship. no nothing.

[alvarado52]

And besides The Suns have beaten Lakers how many times in the playoffs over the last few years?

So Wadding can still talk all the shit he wants.

lol, yea...they can look in awe at that awesome banner in their rafters saying '2006 Pacific Division Champions' all they want...thats as far as they will ever go, if that.

[DaveWadding]

and what im saying is all those Suns fans who love to watch the Lakers lose


See I'm not one of those people...I could give a fuck less about the Lakers. But I just like to rub it in because SammyG sits here and talks the fucking Lakers up like they're the greatest thing since sliced bread and could never lose and then cries himself to sleep and probably cuts himself when they lose.

[DaveWadding]

Also, I think it's hilarious how Lakers fans are like Yankees fans...call me when the Lakers do shit with the best player from their last little run in MY team's uniform.

[alvarado52]

you suns fans crack me up...you remind me of Kings fans a few years back and Mavs fans. Basically annoying, talking out of your ass thinking youre team is the greatest thing in the sport and will win a championship one day by playing fast paced kiddie ball, and in the end you end up with nothing.

Suns are the new Kings. Similarities are crazy, and the way you guys play ball are identical. Also, you both get assed out in the playoffs year in and year out.

And as for calling you when the Lakers do shit, how about you call me when you have a championship banner in your building. Ill grab a Snickers and wait.

And please tell me you didnt just reference Shaq. Seriously. Thats like signing Kareem and saying 'dude, we got a guy who won CHAMPIONSHIPS! HE IS OUR MISSING PIECE!'. Shaqs old and will kill your team because he will hinder you from doing the one thing you guys have going for you, run and gun.

[DaveWadding]

LOL wow...just wow.

[SammyG]

lol, ignore the fatass. Kobe's pinkie is clearly bothering him more than he lets on, he can't hit shit. Anyway, it's alright, every team loses some games they should win. We are still 14 games over. 500.. no biggie.

[alvarado52]

LOL wow...just wow.

lol, just joshing me right? Seriously though, i gotta ask...as a Suns fan, you gotta hate that trade, right?

[SammyG]

Although he has a point there, fat boy. Win a championship first.

[IC Champion]

Suns just took a tough loss, it was a good game thought, crazy endings to both OTs.

[DaveWadding]

FUCK PEJA STOKABITCH

Didnt deserve to win anyways...way too many turnovers.

[IC Champion]

Nash turned it over 10 times alone. He's a great PG, but he takes to many risks, and turns it over alot.

[Ninti the Mad]

Until one of your teams beats the Spurs in a 7 game series in the playoffs, I will continue to think that both the Suns and Lakers have potential but alot of it is wasted.

And I dont see how making fun of the Suns because they havent won a championship makes the Lakers better than them because they have.

Its retarded to compare past accomplishments that dont mean shit now.

[DaveWadding]

Nash turned it over 10 times alone. He's a great PG, but he takes to many risks, and turns it over alot.


He usually doesn't. Paul's quick hands and the general pressure by the Hornets got to him terribly. Strange game.

[SammyG]

Wow 132-130

[Kris P Lettus]

This Shaq trade is the stupidest thing in the history of the NBA..

p.s. woooo Hornets

[SammyG]

lol, Shaq to doubters: Don't make me mad. I win championships when I get mad.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I'm interested to see how Shaq plays with the Suns. I hope he does work, just because everyone is acting like this is the worst trade ever and I would love to see everyone be wrong. I mean I am not totally for it but at the same time its not like the Suns have won tons of championships with their system.

[Ninti the Mad]

Shaq will do good.

In Miama, they really didnt have much offense other than Wade so teams were able to clamp down the D on Shaq.

With the Sun's shooting power, I believe the lane will be less physically demanding for Shaq to work in and he can always kick the ball out after the double team.

This could work real good.

[SammyG]

But it won't

[Ninti the Mad]

I think it will work better than the Gasol trade.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

CWebb back with the Warriors. Pretty hot game thus far (on TNT for those who are curious)

[SammyG]

Go Bulls.

[Loose Cannon]

I'm interested to see how Shaq plays with the Suns. I hope he does work, just because everyone is acting like this is the worst trade ever and I would love to see everyone be wrong. I mean I am not totally for it but at the same time its not like the Suns have won tons of championships with their system.

exactly. The guy's got Nash, Stad and Barbosa around him. He should do just fine

[DaveWadding]

and Grant Hill when he's not gimpy...and Boris Diaw who I swear they transplanted Matrix's brain into before he left town.

[SammyG]

lol, Lakers trying to get Navarro for COBY KARL and a 2nd round draft pick. lol if this happens.

[DaveWadding]

lol, Lakers trying to get Navarro for COBY KARL and a 2nd round draft pick. lol if this happens.


Pussy Asshole just can't live without his butt buddy...

[SammyG]

Haha, Navarro and Gasol are a little toooooo close.

[alvarado52]

exactly. The guy's got Nash, Stad and Barbosa around him. He should do just fine

honestly, i dont know what you guys expect Shaq to do. I mean, the west has changed since his departure. Its not longer land of the bigs really. I mean, dont get me wrong, Timmy D, Yao, and etc. are great players, but honestly, Shaq had 2 things on them: quick feet and weight. He doesnt have those feet anymore.

I dunno, i mean, i love Shaq and all, but a 36 year old 300 pounder with a bad hip doesnt exactly strike fear into anyone.

I just think it wont work because Shaq wont run up and down with the Suns, effectively doing the defenses job for them which is, slow down the suns game. Not to mention, The Suns lost arguably their best defender and most versatile front court player. Whos gonna fill the spot, Hill? Diaw? Cant see them doing too hot againt a Mike Finley, Odom, Josh Howard, etc.

But thats just me...maybe im wrong.

[Hanso Amore]

honestly, i dont know what you guys expect Shaq to do. I mean, the west has changed since his departure. Its not longer land of the bigs really. I mean, dont get me wrong, Timmy D, Yao, and etc. are great players, but honestly, Shaq had 2 things on them: quick feet and weight. He doesnt have those feet anymore.

I dunno, i mean, i love Shaq and all, but a 36 year old 300 pounder with a bad hip doesnt exactly strike fear into anyone.

I just think it wont work because Shaq wont run up and down with the Suns, effectively doing the defenses job for them which is, slow down the suns game. Not to mention, The Suns lost arguably their best defender and most versatile front court player. Whos gonna fill the spot, Hill? Diaw? Cant see them doing too hot againt a Mike Finley, Odom, Josh Howard, etc.

But thats just me...maybe im wrong.

I dunno, I think they are getting him BECAUSE they know he will work a slow game. When the Spurs clamp down on D and stop them running, they think Shaq will work with Amare to Grind it in and open up the outside for the Speed Guys.

I honestly think Shaq will play like a man possessed....then after they win a title he will fade again. Shaq + Motivation = Scary. I know he isnt the Shaq of old, but if he tries he can still be a 18 and 10 guy. He is still 7 foot 300 pounds, that comes in handy down low.

[Crimson]

Yea I agree with above post. People keep saying Shaq won't work in phoenix because they keep thinking that they will keep running their up tempo offense and Shaq won't keep up. But in the playoffs it is a different game, now the Suns CAN afford to slow it down and run some inside/out offense. Can't blame Kerr for making this trade, even if it doesn't work out in the end you can't fault him for trying.

[Hanso Amore]

Yea I agree with above post. People keep saying Shaq won't work in phoenix because they keep thinking that they will keep running their up tempo offense and Shaq won't keep up. But in the playoffs it is a different game, now the Suns CAN afford to slow it down and run some inside/out offense. Can't blame Kerr for making this trade, even if it doesn't work out in the end you can't fault him for trying.

He lost a malcontent, and gained a leader too.

[SammyG]

VERY exciting game tonight, pretty huge win for us. Kobe and Pau with 30+

[alvarado52]

from a basketball stand point, i just cant see it. I can see what you guys mean by slowing it down and working from the inside out, but losing Marion who is a decent outside threat and a energetic rebounder for Shaq whos certainly not the energizer bunny still dont make sense to me. Not to mention people will do hack-a-shaq against the Suns who are without a doubt a team based on runs. When anyone plays the suns, they know a 10 point lead is nothing because they go on these spurts, but think about it...now when people see the spurts about to go off, they'll just foul shaq and call it a day.

[DaveWadding]

WAlly Szczerbiak :rofl:

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

LEON POWE

[Juan]

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:n:

[SammyG]

way to beat the Sonics by 4 at home.

[Juan]

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[SammyG]

Huge win. Amazing.

[tman220]

The lakers are okay. Once Shaq comes back the Suns will be dominating teams. If Lakers dont get home court they could be one and done

[SammyG]

lol

[alvarado52]

The lakers are okay. Once Shaq comes back the Suns will be dominating teams. If Lakers dont get home court they could be one and done

this HAS to be a Wadding sock. Nobody else would make such a ridiculous statement.

[Juan]

Lakers-Heat Preview
By DAN PIERINGER, STATS Writer, NBA.com

Last week, the Los Angeles Lakers made a trade that potentially made them the team to beat in the Western Conference. The Miami Heat have more modest expectations after pulling off their own blockbuster deal.

After acquiring Shawn Marion and Marcus Banks in exchange for Shaquille O'Neal, the last-place Heat hope to avoid their 22nd loss in 23 games as both newcomers are expected to make their debuts against the new-look Lakers in Miami on Sunday.

With the worst record in the NBA thanks to one of the worst stretches in franchise history, Miami (9-39) shook things up on Wednesday, when it sent O'Neal to Phoenix for Marion and Banks. The Heat lost a 14-time All-Star that helped deliver the franchise's first championship in 2006, but they acquired two pieces for what coach and team president Pat Riley hopes is a quick rebuilding process.

"Today is really about change, it's about moving on, it's about getting on with what's going to happen in the Miami Heat's future," Riley said Wednesday. "And these are two people who are going to start that."

Marion, a four-time All-Star, has career averages of 18.4 points and 10.0 rebounds, and has a reputation as one of the most versatile defenders in the NBA. Banks, a fifth-year guard, has seen limited playing time since he was a lottery pick in the 2003 draft, but is expected to see an increased role in Miami.

"The sky's the limit," Marion said of the Heat's potential. "Can't get any worse. We can only get better now."

The Heat will likely need immediate improvement to compete with the Lakers (32-17), who feel they solidified their status as NBA title contenders when they acquired Pau Gasol from Memphis on Feb. 1.

Los Angeles has won two of three games with Gasol, who's averaging 22.0 points and 9.3 rebounds while shooting 61.4 percent from the field in those games. He had 30 points and nine boards in the Lakers' 117-113 victory over Orlando on Friday night.

"With all (Gasol's) skills, it's going to be a seamless transition for us," said Kobe Bryant, who had 36 points, 10 rebounds and six assists. "He has the ability to do everything on the floor, whether it's pass, shoot, rebound or defend. Adding him makes us a very strong team."

Bryant had struggled in his previous two games, combining to go 7-for-29 from the field while playing with a dislocated pinkie finger on his right hand, but he appears to be back on track.

"Having Kobe takes a whole lot of pressure off my shoulders," Gasol said. "This is an amazing opportunity for me and I want to make the very best of it every single night."

Marion will have his own superstar teammate in Dwyane Wade. However, Wade is averaging 16.6 points and shooting 37.7 percent from the field in his last five games after averaging 32.6 points in his previous five contests. He went 5-for-17 and had 19 points as Miami fell to 1-21 since Christmas with a 101-84 loss to Philadelphia on Thursday.

"I don't look at the standings," Wade said after that game. "I know we are at the bottom."

Wade, though, is encouraged by Wednesday's trade.

"They'll add to our team, that's for sure," he said.

[Juan]

Just to be a dick:

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I can't wait for game four on the 20th. By then, Shaq should already be playing and our frontcourt will be in full force once Mihm is back.

[DaveWadding]

I can't wait for game four on the 20th. By then, Shaq should already be playing and our frontcourt will be in full force once Mihm is back.


OH NOES! NOT CHRIS MIHM!!!

[SammyG]

Mihm sucks. He's tall and can block a shot maybe, that is the only thing he brings to the team. Overall, he is terrible.

[DaveWadding]

Nice to see Matrix succeed outside the Suns system.

15 points, 14 boards, 3 dimes, 3 blocks, 3 steals. :y:

[SammyG]

And a Lakers W.

[SammyG]

I just got tix, going to Staples for a Laker game. Over spring break. Too bad it's against a shitty team, Charlotte.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Celts with a big win over the Spurs without Garnett. To be fair SA didn't have Tony Parker either. Still though, Celtics are undefeated against the Western Conference, pretty hot

[SammyG]

Yeah that is ridiculous. 16-0 against the West or something? Sick.

[Juan]

Mihm has been plagued by injuries, but terrible???? C'mon now.

[Crimson]

In other words, he doesn't make a shit of difference

[SammyG]

He is, man. At the most he is a defensive presence, ONLY because of his height. That's it. He is way too soft, as well. We need to ship him and Walton out.

[Juan]

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[Juan]

Sammy, watch that video and tell me he's terrible.

He was averaging around 10 points, 6 rebounds and about 25 mins per game before he got injured. I'm not saying that now we're a lock for the championship because he's coming back, but I wouldn't wanna mess with a front court of Bynum, Turiaf, Mihm and Gasol. IMO, Mihm is a contributor.

[SammyG]

I would put Mihm on the floor only to rest Gasol and Bynum, for like 5 mins a game MAX.

ANYWAY, argument over.

[IC Champion]

Nice to see Matrix succeed outside the Suns system.

15 points, 14 boards, 3 dimes, 3 blocks, 3 steals. :y:

I think people forget this guy was always one of the better players in the league befores the Suns even played this style of offence, and long before Nash arrived.

[IC Champion]

I just want to state that Jose Calderon's the best PG in the East, and that he's going to be a great PG. He came over from Spain so it took him some time to get used to the NBA which is expected. He doesn't do anything fancy, and isn't a great athlete, though he never seems to get tired, he is just a solid player, who is very effective at what he does. Great shooter, shooting something like 45% from 3, hes 3rd in three throw PCT, shooting around 50% from the feild on the season, along with his 10 ast. per game since replacing TJ Ford as the starter, and he very rarley turns the ball over, with an assist to turn over ratio of about 6-1. Not to mention he is exremely consistent and never has a bad game, Of the 45 games or so I've seen, he's had maybe one off night.

I would also like to say he should be going to the All Star in place of Joe Johnson, he isn't on a winning team, and the fact that Jose is a key contributer on a winning team should play into it.

[SammyG]

PHOENIX (AP) - Shaquille O'Neal has gone through his first practice with the Phoenix Suns.

O'Neal said after Monday's workout that he was winded but otherwise felt fine.



He says it's going to take some time, though, for him to learn where he fits in the Suns' system.
He says at this point in his career, he considers himself a role player. No date has been set for his first game with Phoenix.
O'Neal was able to run the floor with the team without any signs of the hip injury that has sidelined him for several weeks. He came to the Suns last Wednesday in a blockbuster deal that sent Shawn Marion and Marcus Banks to the Miami Heat. Phoenix has two games before the All-Star break — at Golden State on Wednesday night and at home against Dallas on Thursday.

[alvarado52]

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[Juan]

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[SammyG]

Going to watch LAL CHA in Staples in March babayyyyyyyyyy

If we beat Minny tommorrow, we will have a 7-2 road trip, Ridiculous. Shoulda been 9-0 too, We lost by 1 @ Detroit, and just had a letdown against the ATL.

[IC Champion]

Kidd, and Malik Allen to Dallas in exchange for Harris, Diop, Stackhouse, Ager and George. If I'm Jersey I have to be relishing this deal, nice young very taleneted PG, and big stong center, something they can use. I wonder if they will look to move Carter or Richardson.

[IC Champion]

No way Dallas does this deal if the moves that were made the last couple weeks werent made.

[RP]

Its an arms race in the West. I bet Boston or Detroit still win it all. I really wanna see Boston vs San Antonio in the finals.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I can't stand Kidd, like he might be the only athlete I truly hate, but Dallas getting him is pretty ridiculous. West is back to being completely ridiculous, it was still a lot better the last few years but it was somewhat evening out, but not now.

[SammyG]

Meh, I think it's a fair deal for both teams. Might even be a bit better for the Nets.

[The Gold Standard]

The Mavericks got their point guard back since they lost Nash and the Nets got a lot back for their star.

This also makes the Western Conference even better.

[IC Champion]

Meh, I think it's a fair deal for both teams. Might even be a bit better for the Nets.

Nets got a good deal, they have up a whiny old PG, who was at the end of his career, and got a good young PG who will help their team alot going forward.

[Hanso Amore]

Look out for Miami Next year.

A healthy Wade with some time spent with marion gives them one of the best 1-2 combos in the NBA. Marion is going to be a beast in he east. Add in a top 5 pick and if they can land just one more decent player they could be a nice surprise next year.

[DaveWadding]

Devean George refuses to consent to the trade :rofl:

[SammyG]

LOLLLLLLLLLL Devean George.

Also, that was the funniest fucking basketball game I have ever seen. Lakers just DESTROYING the Wolves.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Who the fuck is gonna play for the Mavs after this trade though? They are trading away like 3 or 4 dudes who get heavy rotation for one guy

[IC Champion]

Your talkin about Mark Cuban here, the same guy who didnt think Steve Nash was worth resigning.

[SammyG]

I kinda want this trade to happen, it makes the Mavs worse.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

At first I was like "WOW Getting Kidd is gonna make them sick" but I didn't realize they where given up a lot of guys who get heavy minutes. It's not like any of those guys are all stars or anything but Stack and George both get some big minutes. (Harris too obviously, but Kidd is just gonna take over his spot)

[IC Champion]

I kinda want this trade to happen, it makes the Mavs worse.

In the long run, yes. But this group has already proven that cant get it done, something had to happen, especially with all the moves being made in the West.

[IC Champion]

Also, Mavs are giving up to first round draft picks in this deal, I'm sorry but is Cuban retarded?

[McLegend]

Who cares about 4 years from today. This move would have brought them closer to a championship now.

It shows that GM's and such are growing some balls.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I dunno, late first round picks probably. They can overcome that with free agents. It's not like the NFL where you build your team with draft picks. I mean it can def help if you get good picks, but a lot of times guys end up being busts.

[Juan]

Lakers win again. 7-2 road trip!

[SammyG]

SSSSUNNNNNNSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

BARBBBBBOOOOOOOSSSSSAAAAAA

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

KOBE!

[Splaya]

Kobe Bryant will allegedly deny surgery when he has torn ligaments in his pinky finger. The surgery would sideline him 6 weeks.

It's gonna suck for him if he reinjures it.

[SammyG]

Kobe is a warrior. He needs surgery, but is gonna wait till after the season. He dropped outta the 3 point contest, very smart decision. Do not know why he is still playing in the All Star Game though.

[Juan]

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[SammyG]

SASHAA VUUJJACCIIIICCCC

[SammyG]

FUCK the NBA, Idiots are making Kobe play in the ASG, despite Lakers' protests. What the hell, they say they are gonna suspend him 1 game if he doesn't play. THE MAN IS INJURED. Whatever, He can play 30 seconds, and then sub out. Lakers need him more than the fucking Western Conference team needs him.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

KOBE IS A FUCKIN WARRIOR!!!!!!!!!

[SammyG]

lolllllll Stima watch this.

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[tman220]

There goes the Laker season now. Kobe isn't going to play at a high level with a hurt pinky and if he leaves they won't be able to climb higher than they are

[SammyG]

Fuck that. He's been scoring like 28 consistently since his injury. We'll be fine.

[tman220]

since he hurt it..not since he tore his ligament off his pinky. you honestly think he can score 28 points a game and even more in the playoffs? I like the Lakers alot since they got Gasol but Kobe needs to get that fixed

[SammyG]

lol Gibson shot 20 shots in the Rooks/Sophs game, all threes. And he made 11 of them

[IC Champion]

Kobe doesnt want to get the surgery because if he misses Six weeks his team wont make the playoffs.

[SammyG]

If this was 2 years ago, Kobe woulda got the surgery, no doubt. He thinks we got somethin special this year, and we do. He doesnt wanna miss it for the world.

[DaveWadding]

DWIGHT HOWARD JUST SUPAMANNED DAT HO

I MEAN YOUUUUUUUU

[SammyG]

oh my fucking god, Dwight Howard is the fucking shit. Jesus.

[Heros Welcome]

DWIGHT HOWARD! Got robbed last year, glad he took it this year. Fuckin OWNED!

[SammyG]

Also, LOL @ Dwayne Wade during the Skills challenge, and big ups to Kapono.

[SammyG]

I think Dwight Howard will go down as the greatest dunker ever when his career is over.

[Crimson]

Nah..he'll be top 3 maybe, but not best ever.

[Crimson]

God what a sick dunk this was though
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[Crimson]

It wasn't even dunk it was better than a dunk

[SammyG]

I think the one where he threw it off the backboard with his left and dunked with the right was even better.

[FakeLaser]

Howard tore shit up tonight

I was a huge fan of the "Birthday Cake" though

[FakeLaser]

The best part of the entire thing was Darryl Dawkins interview at the end. "He had power and imag-istation." Then he doesn't even remember to vote. Then he holds up his vote card thing and yells "WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP"

Also, Dr. J went on for like 27 minutes and got booed.

[SammyG]

lol yeah I remember that. I was just begging for him to shut the fuck up and let Magic talk. Birthday cake wasn't bad, I liked it. Gay was dissapointing, Moon had one that I liked.

[Nervous Ferret]

The stupid Superman, how was it more amazing that he just through it at the rim and made it? Not even a dunk GOSH. The other 3 were ridiculous by Howard, but I def thought the birthday cake was the best dunk all night

[Kris P Lettus]

Mike Bibby got traded to the Hawks..

:(

[Linkbowler]

TittyTittyTittyTittyTittyTittyTitty

http://www.insomniacslounge.com/2008/02/reggie-miller-is-all-about-releasing-on.html

Reggie Miller is so fired.

[RP]

lolz

[SammyG]

lol the titty.

Also, NerF, the Superman was easily the best dunk of the night. The fact that he got high enough to THROW the ball down through the rim is fucking ridiculous.

[IC Champion]

I liked Jamario Moon's first dunk, Also Vince Carters reverse 360 windmall against the basket was the greatest dunk of all time.

[Splaya]

The trade of Jason Kidd to Dallas appears to be back on. The Mavs and Nets on Sunday had reached an agreement in principle sending Kidd to Dallas along with Malik Allen for Devin Harris, Trenton Hassell, DeSagana Diop, Maurice Ager, Keith Van Horn, $3 million and two first-round picks.

[Splaya]

So apparently now Dallas will keep Stackhouse and George. That's HUGE

[SammyG]

Wow, New Jersey is retarded.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

He doesnt wanna miss it for the world.ROFLLLLLLLLLLL

[Nervous Ferret]

lol the titty.

Also, NerF, the Superman was easily the best dunk of the night. The fact that he got high enough to THROW the ball down through the rim is fucking ridiculous.
eh I don't think so, but what do I know

[SammyG]

Direct Quote Stima.

[SammyG]

Actually I dunno... All of Howard's dunks except the last one were things I was absolutely shocked by. Birthday Cake was nice too.

[Loose Cannon]

wow Keith Van Horn is still around.

[McLegend]

Nope

[Juan]

I remember Mike Bibby!

[alvarado52]

I remember Mike Bibby!

yea, he was the guy who hit those bigs shots against the Lakers in the playoffs and celebrated too early.

[SammyG]

Fuck Mike Bibby. Will be pritty upset if we lose tommorrow.

Cross your fingaz, hope Kobe doesn't injure his pinky any further

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

lol wow Devon George ends up helping the Mavs by not taking the first trade (if this trade does officially go through that is)

[alvarado52]

i really wish Kobe would get that surgery. Anyway, question...why havent the Lakers called up Sun Yue yet? Kids got game.

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[SammyG]

Meh.

[Skippord]

Nuggets > Celtics

[Jura]

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[DaveWadding]

SAmmyG -

you suck, you mother sucks, Kobe rapes little white girls and now he can't even drink tea properly.

You're gay.

<3

Joseph RoXer

PS: SUNS ARE GONNA WIN

[Ninti the Mad]

lol @ marriage proposal rejection

She had some banging tits and he was fat so whatever.

[SammyG]

Lakers were up 73-37 at the half last night lol.

Also, fuck you Wadding, we will beat you in your arena just like we did 2nd game of the season. Fat boy Shaq can't even help you.

[SammyG]

I just wish we had Bynum back already :( He should be back mid-March...

[IC Champion]

I like Kobe and the Lakers, and Phil Jackson, but you god damn Laker fans think your team is greatest thing since an automatic bread slicer.

[Ninti the Mad]

Suns/Lakers is gonna be hot tonight

HOTTTT

[Jura]

lol @ marriage proposal rejection

She had some banging tits and he was fat so whatever.
Yeah she has that hot young school teacher look. I bet you they were only going out for a short while and he asked her to marry her.

[Ninti the Mad]

lol when someone gave the dude a beer at the end

[Ninti the Mad]

So after Boston loses to Denver, they cannot get a better record than the Bulls record season.

yesss

[DaveWadding]

Also, fuck you Wadding, we will beat you in your arena just like we did 2nd game of the season. Fat boy Shaq can't even help you.


But seriously, RoXer sent me a text this morning and askled me to talk some shit for him so I made it ridiculous because he's never going to see it anyways.

BTW, Shaq was fatter in LA than he is now you dumb fuck...

[IC Champion]

I think Shaq's on the Gas.

[alvarado52]

Shaqs size dont matter (remember when he was still dominant in Orlando and skinny as hell), its that quick step thats gone. Thats what he'll miss. It'll be a good game, but i stand by my statement that the Lakers will win and Shaq will do no good for the Suns. Time will tell though.


Ariza is gonna be out another 8 weeks i hear. That sucks. We're staying afloat well though despite Bynum and Ariza being out.

[Loose Cannon]

I can't wait for this game. Suns are going to rip them to shreds

[SammyG]

lol, you are expecting a blowout? No way it will be a blowout dude. Yeah, Ariza being out for 8 more weeks fucking sucks, and Bynum isn't on schedule apparently, might be another week. So we'll get him mid- late March. I expect Lamar to have a huge game tonight.

[SammyG]

I wish this wasn't our second game on a back to back, those are tough.

[IC Champion]

I'm calling for the Lakers to win by 4.

[DaveWadding]

I got SammyG's newest jizz rag in the mail today...

http://dimemag.com/wp-content/gallery/dime_issues/2008/39/cover.jpg

I felt like a little white girl when I saw that shit on my desk.

[Ninti the Mad]

Hey Wadding

Rumors that the Spurs aquired Kurt Thomas for Brent Barry.

[SammyG]

Yesssss I am getting that issue.

[DaveWadding]

Hey Wadding

Rumors that the Spurs aquired Kurt Thomas for Brent Barry.


and That Eason Guy and a 1st rounder.

:rofl:

[Ninti the Mad]

Thomas is pretty underrated.

He's not going to dominate but he is extra fouls to expend and more size for what is starting to look like an undersized Spurs team.

I wouldve preferred a Mike Miller or Jermaine O'Neal though. Hell, even Ron Artest.... nah.

[IC Champion]

Magic are gettin blown out by the Raps.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Heard a rumor about Ron Artest to the Nuggets....lol that would be an interesting locker room

[IC Champion]

Heard a rumor about Ron Artest to the Nuggets....lol that would be an interesting locker room

LOL, I cant imagin Ron being happy with the Nuggets.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Lakers picking up the W tonight. They are gonna be pretty dangerous once they get healthy

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/tools/med/2008/02/ipt/1203564613.jpg
lol

[IC Champion]

Kobe is the man.

[SammyG]

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL Wadding you fat fuck. Take that. We are for real bitch, division is ours.

[SammyG]

SAmmyG -

you suck, you mother sucks, Kobe rapes little white girls and now he can't even drink tea properly.

You're gay.

<3

Joseph RoXer

PS: SUNS ARE GONNA WIN
:rofl::rofl::rofl:

[IC Champion]

Pheonix can't win against team with .500 or better records.

[SammyG]

I can't wait for this game. Suns are going to rip them to shreds
http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii183/lukemitcheltreee/O_RLY.jpg

[SammyG]

Lakers picking up the W tonight. They are gonna be pretty dangerous once they get healthy

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/tools/med/2008/02/ipt/1203564613.jpg
lol
lol, way to dunk on DJ Mbenga, Snaq attaqqqqqqq

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Yo Sammy chill out, it was a regular season game dude

I mean it was a good win, but you are acting like they just knocked the Suns outta the playoffs or something

[alvarado52]

Wheres Wadding? Prolly banging his head against the wall somewhere. Like i said, no SF in the West is like having no center. Sure, you guys got Shaq, but without a true SF, Lamar had a big game (22 and 11)...imagine what happens when you have to go against Melo or Josh Howard? Things pretty much went how i thought they would.

[SammyG]

I am talking shit because of Wadding and LC guarenteeing a Suns win basically. Also, it is always amazing to beat the Suns, it is huge. We are winning the Pacific, wooooooo.

[alvarado52]

Im happy we won. I mean, considering that the Suns we just faced are about as fully powered as they are gonna be (and dont gimme any Grant Hill crap either), and we are without our true center, our slasher, and Pau still learning the offense and his spots. Id say we're still competing against the best while obviously not having all our big guns healthy (hell, even Kobes injured).

[Juan]

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[Ninti the Mad]

Still gotta go through the Spurs.

[SammyG]

I realize this. I still feel that the Lakers can beat anyone though.

[tman220]

yeah this game against the Lakers doesn't mean as much considering it was shaq's FIRST game with his new team. He did everything people were expecting. Once they get more practices and games under their belt they will be better offensively and defensively. Plus none of the Suns are playing with a pinky that could cost them the finals/playoffs and any time

[SammyG]

lol shut up haters

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Its true though, I mean it was a nice win but you gotta be realistic. It was Shaq's first game back in a while. He played pretty well too, you gotta assume he is only gonna improve (unless he gets hurt again of course) On the flip side Lakers are only going to improve too once Bynum is back. Its gonna be a battle out west no matter, trying to predict it now is pretty retarded. I know the Spurs won last year, but that was last year, right now its pretty much up in the air.

[McLegend]

How can I take this Sportscenter trade deadline special seriously with Billy King as the main analyst?

[DaveWadding]

Where was I? Laughing at Samuel G licking Mamba's balls for almost giving away a game in the 4th quarter when the Suns were playing terrible defense.

[Juan]

I didn't expect to get much credit for this win, but it's ok. ALL the haters will be silenced in the playoffs. As Hubie said last night, this Lakers team is for real, love them or hate them.

[Juan]

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[Loose Cannon]

I am talking shit because of Wadding and LC guarenteeing a Suns win basically. Also, it is always amazing to beat the Suns, it is huge. We are winning the Pacific, wooooooo.

the difference is I was playing around to get a reaction out of you because you take everything so seriously.

[IC Champion]

Suns wont win shit until they learn how to play defense, Mike D'antoni should take most of the blame there. I don't care how great your offence is, if you can't stop the other guy it doesn't mean shit if you score 120 points but cant stop the other guy from getting to 130.

[Juan]

Jim Rome: "(The Lakers) are the real deal. Other than injury, they have no weakness. You have the alpha dog phenom, the best player in the league in (Kobe) and Lamar Odom who's healthy and in his prime and Pau Gasol who has been a freaking revelation. The length of the big three is incredible, they play so well together and that's attributed to Pau Gasol. I don't think I've seen a better mid-season trade than the one Mitch Kupchak worked for this guy. He looks and plays like he's been with them for 5 years. There was no learning curve, no adjustments whatsoever. The guy's an artist and he's brilliant in the open floor and around the basket. Plus, he's somebody Bryant trusts, and better yet, respects. And it's not just the big three, the Lakers bench is great. Guys like Luke Walton, Ronny Turiaf, Sasha Vujacic and Jordan Farmar give them tremendous energy and they all know and play their roles. As good as they are right now, they're only going to get that much better when they get Andrew Bynum, Chris Mihm and Trevor Ariza back. They've got a veteran at the Point, Bryant who will not let them lose, a couple of 7 footers, athleticism on the wings, a killer bench and a Hall of Fame coach with 9 rings. I'm not saying you skip the playoffs and give the Lakers the title, but clearly, they are the team to beat."

[Hanso Amore]

Ben Wallace is a Cavalier.

Cavs get Wallace, Joe Smith, Delonte West and Wally Szerbiak.

Bulls get Larry Hughes, Drew Gooden, Cedric Simmons and Shannon Brown.

Sonics get Ira Newble, Adrian Griffin and Donyell Marshall. First 2 are expiring contracts.

[SammyG]

lol @ wadding. Come on now.

[Ninti the Mad]

Where was I? Laughing at Samuel G licking Mamba's balls for almost giving away a game in the 4th quarter when the Suns were playing terrible defense.

But... but... the Suns always play horrible defense.

[IC Champion]

Playing horrible defense would imply that they actually play defense.

[Ninti the Mad]

ziiiiiiing

[DaveWadding]

So Samuel, how do Mamba's sweaty balls taste you douchebag? Do they taste like little white girls? Did that make you cry?

[Crimson]

Wooo..Sonics clearing cap space! Top 5 pick this year hoping they sign a free agent..lookout next year! (or the year after)

[SammyG]

Wadding, is that seriously what you have to say? Is that all you got? No excuses for your loss? How bout you just admit the better team beat you, and not make 3rd grade retarded jokes.

[DaveWadding]

No, because I don't make excuses for my team like you do. We didn't play good enough defense. La La La La La Mamba was utterly unstoppable (and Raja not making him do shit on defense didnt really help). So we lost. The Lakers are not the better team. The better team doesn't get bounced every year in the first round. Sorry.

[SammyG]

... Last year's team is not the same as this year's team if you haven't noticed. Adding Fisher and Gasol has changed everything. Also, our bench is playing phenomenal.

[Splaya]

Ben Wallace is a Cavalier.

Cavs get Wallace, Joe Smith, Delonte West and Wally Szerbiak.

Bulls get Larry Hughes, Drew Gooden, Cedric Simmons and Shannon Brown.

Sonics get Ira Newble, Adrian Griffin and Donyell Marshall. First 2 are expiring contracts.

I laughed my ass off when I saw this trade. Everyone is like oh man the Cavs just got so better.


Actually they didn't improve at all

[Splaya]

No, because I don't make excuses for my team like you do. We didn't play good enough defense. La La La La La Mamba was utterly unstoppable (and Raja not making him do shit on defense didnt really help). So we lost. The Lakers are not the better team. The better team doesn't get bounced every year in the first round. Sorry.

Your team never plays defense to begin with. The only reason they can win so many games is because of their type of offense. Don't use the excuse you guys didn't play defense for that game. That's why the Suns can't make it to the finals because the playoffs are those times when teams LOCK down on defense and then the Suns can't handle themselves. I'm one of Steve Nash's biggest supporters but you gotta look at the writing on the wall

[DaveWadding]

Suns 43, Celtics 30 at halftime


Move along, no defense here...

[alvarado52]

No, because I don't make excuses for my team like you do. We didn't play good enough defense. La La La La La Mamba was utterly unstoppable (and Raja not making him do shit on defense didnt really help). So we lost. The Lakers are not the better team. The better team doesn't get bounced every year in the first round. Sorry.

the Suns dont play D. Everyone knows this. And comparing last years Laker team to this years is just a TAD retarded, considering the strides we have made with adding players this year and playing well together.

That'd be like comparing championship banners in the building. But i mean, if you wanna do that....

see Wadding, this Laker team is better than the Suns. The only team i think may be superior (and only because they play great, almost flawless ball together) is the Spurs.

regardles...you lost cuz you lost. Dont pin it on phantom defense that never existed.

[DaveWadding]

Wow, I didn't know that a team that doesn't play defense could hold the best team in the NBA to 77 points...

[Ninti the Mad]

See Wadding.

Defense = wins

Hopefully your coach realizes that and keeps it up.

[DaveWadding]

Thanks for seeing that they can and did actually play defense. :love:

[Hanso Amore]

I like the Lakers odds at this point, but I still think the Suns are just as good, and over a series it could go either way. The Suns play good D, they just run such a fast O, that they give up alot of points in return. Spurs added Damon Stoudemire and Kurt Thomas, which is far less flashy than any of their rivals, but the kind of solid moves that put them over the top again. I do not think there is a better run organization in any sport? Maybe the Pats in the NFL.

[VonErichLives]

No, because I don't make excuses for my team like you do. We didn't play good enough defense. La La La La La Mamba was utterly unstoppable (and Raja not making him do shit on defense didnt really help). So we lost. The Lakers are not the better team. The better team doesn't get bounced every year in the first round. Sorry.

Good, then just so you know, the better team didn't win last night.


Wow, I didn't know that a team that doesn't play defense could hold the best team in the NBA to 77 points...

Phx doesn't play defense and the Celtics aren't the top scoring team in the league, the Celtics are one of the best defenses in the league.

The Celtics shot like crap last night and still played good enough defense not to get blown out by one of the top offenses in the game.

make it to the finals and play like that and you'll get swept by Boston or Detroit.

That being said, I don't see Phx making it to the west finals never mind the nba finals.

[SammyG]

Gonna be 1st in the west after we win tonight.

[Hanso Amore]

Good, then just so you know, the better team didn't win last night.




Phx doesn't play defense and the Celtics aren't the top scoring team in the league, the Celtics are one of the best defenses in the league.

The Celtics shot like crap last night and still played good enough defense not to get blown out by one of the top offenses in the game.

make it to the finals and play like that and you'll get swept by Boston or Detroit.

That being said, I don't see Phx making it to the west finals never mind the nba finals.


So your saying if the Suns play like they did (beating Boston) in the finals, they will get beat by boston?

Doesnt make sense.

Suns clamped down for once and gritted one out, just admit it.

[VonErichLives]

So your saying if the Suns play like they did (beating Boston) in the finals, they will get beat by boston?

Doesnt make sense.

Suns clamped down for once and gritted one out, just admit it.

Believe whatever you want...

you got a rusty garnett and a boston team that in general played like crap, missing wide open shots has nothing to do with "great defense".

[The Outlaw]

Hahahaha

I love when the "Well, the better team didn't win tonight" argument comes up when somebody's team loses. Most of the time, it is followed by a few other excuses. I also love how you guys are talking about the Suns not playing defense and then allows a top 10 offense a mere 77 points. I ALSO find it funny that Laker fans are saying Phoenix doesn't play defense, yet Phoenix only allows a mere 2 points or so more than the Lakers. Yeah, what's that say about your team?

The ironic fact of the game is that Phoenix didn't even play that well offensively. They turned the ball over 20+ times and they are normally a great team with the ball. And, they STILL won. The difference in the game was that Boston got DOMINATED on the boards. Shaq and.....GRANT HILL almost had more boards than the WHOLE Boston team. Grant Hill!!!

PS - Suns missed Barbosa after he got that shot from P squared. A lot of chippiness was shown from the Celts. I guess the stellar defense frustrated them. ;)

I also saw a few people talk about the Suns "not making it to the finals because they don't play defense". I believe everyone knows why they didn't make it to the finals last year, and it had NOTHING to do with defense.

[VonErichLives]

to clarify, my comments about the Suns not being a better team then the Celtics really had nothing to do with either team and everything to do with Wadding saying that the Lakers were not better then the Suns even though they had just beat the Suns.

That being said, I don't see the Suns beating boston in a 7 game series...

They don't play great defense, but they are a good scoring team.

The addition of Shaq with a focus on "just get rebounds" if a big help for the Suns, but I still think it's Boston or Detroit this year.

[SammyG]

I'm gonna watch this Suns/Pistons game rite now.

[IC Champion]

Wow, Suns got DESTROYED. Rasheed Wallace had his way with the Suns front court. No defence was played whatsoever at any point in time by Pheonix. I guess you can give them credit for keepin it within 30.

[DaveWadding]

I hate these 12 o clock starts. The Suns NEVER come to play.

[SammyG]

lolllllll sunssssssss

[Splaya]

I hate these 12 o clock starts. The Suns NEVER come to play.

Dear Dave Wadding and any other Phoenix Suns fan,

We the Detroit Pistons would like to say thank you for coming to the game tonight. Should we meet in the NBA finals, we will gladly let you win 1 game so you can keep your pride. However, if you play like this in the playoffs against any other team, you will not make it to the finals.

Sincerely,

Splaya

[Ninti the Mad]

I also saw a few people talk about the Suns "not making it to the finals because they don't play defense". I believe everyone knows why they didn't make it to the finals last year, and it had NOTHING to do with defense.



I love how you diss people that make excuses about wins and losses and then you say this.

BTW, their loss had to do with defense last year. San Antonio's defense.

Make all the excuses you want. You all made your own bed.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Well the Celtics beat the Pistons and the Pistons just smashed the Suns, so that must make the Celtics the better team? I mean cuz it seems like a lot of people where deciding this off of one game

[VonErichLives]

and they beat the Spurs w/o Garnett... so lets just end the season now and "crown them".

can't wait for the playoffs... just got my order form..

1st round goes up $10, 2nd round $20, East Finals $30.00 and if they make the finals the tickets double.

[Ninti the Mad]

Spurs were without Parker so it evens out.

[SammyG]

lol, beat the shit outta the sonics, and Kobe got ejected. These games are becoming too easy.

[Juan]

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[Ninti the Mad]

Sonics. Enough said.