Grand Theft Auto 5

[D Mac]

Probably WAY too early, but what should GTA 5 be like? Should it be in Vice City, San Andreas, or a whole new city?

They should have a Create A Character this time around, or play a chick or something. Something different.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

London

[D Mac]

Found this:

The latest edition of Gametrailers’ Bonus Round discussed Grand Theft Auto 4, its Xbox 360-exclusive expansions, and Grand Theft Auto 5’s release date. You can watch the episode below.

To quote investment banker Wedbush Morgan Securities’ game industry analysts Michael Pachter: “I actually think they already have a story in mind. GTA5 is already in the planning stage and my guess is you’ll see [the next GTA] in two and a half years. In fall of 2010, there’ll be Grand Theft Auto 5.”

This last Grand Theft Auto Bonus Round episode discusses whether or not the release of GTA4 on April 29th will be the fall of GTA as a series or if Rockstar will reach new heights?

[BigDaddyCool]

Will it be GTA5, or will it be GTA4 : *Insert city name here*

[Jeritron]

I think the next GTA game should be set in Patriot City, or some clever name for a GTA adaptation of Boston.

It'd be interesting to see them to a Boston setting, and explore the Irish Mob and the IRA and such, and draw inspiration from movies like The Departed, Boondock Saints, Gone Baby Gone and the like.

They've done the NY Italian mob, the Russian mob, a Miami Vice/Scarface type thing, and a Compton gangsta ghetto.
I figure this is the next big thing, and in terms of crime drama movies it seems to be the new trend and a big hit.

I think it'd be great.

[El Fangel]

I hope to fuck this is not like GTA4.

But anyways, I would like one of maybe four places

- Toronto
- Moscow
- London
- Colorado

[Requiem]

GTA 4 was amazing. You are just a bad gamer.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Req is correct

[El Fangel]

GTA 4 was amazing. You are just a bad gamer.

Haha, no.

GTA: SA perhaps set my standards too high, but my main qualms with it:

- Motorcycles - I use them alot in SA, and they were horrible to drive in 4

- Chase Missions - Self Explanatory

- I always found Niko to be a bit jerky to control

- No music I liked on there at all

- Cars were more realistic yes, but driving on oil is not realistic


Anyways, enough about it really, it was not a BAD game, just those things made my experience not very fun.

[Buzzkill]

Not enough emo on there for you, Fallen Angel?

[El Fangel]

How does emo have anything to do with this?

[#BROKEN Hasney]

I think he was referring to the part where you said the game had no music you liked at all

[D Mac]

Play music on some other source while playing GTA.

[El Fangel]

I think he was referring to the part where you said the game had no music you liked at all

Oh, I suppose that would be it.

Play music on some other source while playing GTA.

Yeah, and having to pause/mute it everytime there is a cut-scence became a real pain really fast. Broke the flow, gnome sayin'

[Kane Knight]

GTA 4 was amazing. You are just a bad gamer.

Not enough emo on there for you, Fallen Angel?

*insert ironically spastic comment*

Play music on some other source while playing GTA.

Which doesn't actually make the soundtrack any better, it's just a bandaid.

Of course, I think better issues are controls, the bullshit "realism," the muddy graphics (Which are brilliant as long as you keep the brightness set to "she looks good in the dark."), the terrible characters and voice acting. In fact, "muddy" really describes the whole game.

These are better issues, but if you don't like the soundtrack, playing your own music over it is just putting lipstick on a pig. And yes, that's a shot at Sarah Palin.

[Ogen]

Dunno game plays nicely just wish they'd take out the need for me to go on dates with random women and go for drinks/a strip show with my friends in it. No interest in going anywhere with any of them so constantly get texts moaning about not talking to them.

[BigDaddyCool]

I wanna see GTA Kansas City, or Chicago.

[Sepholio]

Atlanta. That would be mad gangstalicious.

[El Fangel]

Alabama, Imagine the backwoods gun-fights with the locals.

[Kapoutman]

I want to see if they could make something interesting out of GTA: Alaska.

[U-Warrior]

I'd just like to know about the dlc tbh.

[Sepholio]

Alabama, Imagine the backwoods gun-fights with the locals.

Alabama could be one of the country areas like they had in SA if they made GTA:Atlanta.

[El Fangel]

Swear to god, Angel Grove was like my favorote hick town in SA, also it was the easiest place to do the Ambulance Missions, its mega small, and no traffic :)

[Buzzkill]

I feel like GTA: Tokyo would pretty illl

[Buzzkill]

Think how awesome your cell phone would be

[Requiem]

I feel like GTA: Tokyo would pretty illl

Was actually thinking that. Or maybe not even Tokyo, but the Kobe/Osaka area. Largest group of Yakuza, the Yamaguchi-gumi, own that area pretty much and that would make for some pretty awesome stuff.

Thinking more about it, involving the Yakuza would make for some pretty epic things compared to the other games. They are the largest organized crime group in the world, and pretty much shit on anything the Italian mafia, black gangs, or Russian syndicate can do.

[Sepholio]

Yea Tokyo would be rock solid, Kobe and Osaka could be other areas on the map. I had this idea last night though. GTA never cared about logistics, so why not do a SA style map with Atlanta, London, Moscow, and Tokyo. That would be ridonkulous.

[NeanderCarl]

GTA: Punxsutawny

[CSL]

Main bad guy

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[Mooияakeя™]

GTA4: Vice City

I'd cream if they did this. They won't cos "it's already been done".

Only hope I can pray for is that they will realise how popular the last was and that they have rebuilt Liberty in this one, so it's only natural?

[Kalyx triaD]

I second Vice City's return. There's something surreal about playing a game based on where I live. And with multiplayer, I could take you guys on a tour of my hangout spots.

[U-Warrior]

I'd like to see GTA: Tokyo

[Kalyx triaD]

Nice.

[Funky Fly]

I'd like to see GTA: Tokyo

GTA: Gaijin Smash?

[El Fangel]

A late 90's Vice City, or perhaps an early 90's to tie in with what is going on in San Andreas.

Also it would be so fucking cool if you played this game as a returning character, say Tommy or CJ, one go to the others city to start again, or whatever, and they meet up and decide to take over the place, It would provide for a nice story, and a wonderful multiplayer.

[Kalyx triaD]

Screw it; give us the three cities of San Andreas and Vice City a GTA4 make over and release them all as DLC. Then have us able to use the airports to travel to whichever city we please. While you're at it, complete the outlying areas of Liberty City that they constructed but didn't finish (GTA version of Jersey reportedly) and make that available as well.

With all that playground, I will never anything of Rockstar again. They will have delivered to me the last GTA experience I need. It'll be the closest the series will come to having a continent of playground. For the love of God imagine that.

[El Fangel]

A smaller scale USA, with key citys would be so fucking bomb, and make it large, and I mean large, where to travel from New York to LA by car in game would take like 30 mins, Man, just the thought of that would be so fucking sweet.

[BigDaddyCool]

What would be cool is if they did a series of Midwest cities. Something like Kansas City, St. Louis, and Chicago. And having to go back and forth to those Cities. That would be cool.

[El Fangel]

I think you are getting at what I mean BDC.

I would suggest

LA - Los Santos- Its LA

Washington - Kennedy - Like hell it would happen, but it would be awesome to fire rockets from the white house roof.

New York - Liberty - See LA

Miami - Vice - Revisit Vice City

Dallas - (No Idea) - Need a southern state

Boston - Independance - would be awesome

Chicago - Gotham - C'mon do I have to explain.

Memphis - Clefton - Imagine the radio station for this place (on a side note, each city should have its own stations)

Detroit - Dodge City - Motor Vehicle Capital of the US

[Drakul]

They could have the game take place in Carcer City. That place has been mentioned in a few GTAs but we've never been there.

On a GTA related note, would it ever be possible and profitable to do this idea I had? The idea is this:
Sell the game disc with all the code and stuff that makes everything work on it but each player downloads the city of their choice. Maybe a choice of 3 major cities depending where you live. Choose between New York, Los Angeles or Miami for the US. London, Manchester or Birmingham for England. Edinburgh, Glasgow or Dundee for Scotland and so on with the selection varying from region to region.
This would make the game pretty cool because it would resemble your home city and would have a lot of local humour and references in it.
I'm not saying that's what GTA5 will be, I'm just asking if that would ever be a possible and profitable idea.

[El Fangel]

If I may add on to what you have posted Drakul...

What if the new game provided you with a starting city, lets say New York for the hell of it, and the rest of the game (citys) were free downloadable content to your system. That would be awesome. Then again I have no idea how much data that would be, and I am guessing it would be alot, and would take forever to download.

[El Fangel]

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[El Fangel]

Quick rough paint drawing, buit that is how I would set up the next GTA.

as you can see the green is forested areas seperating the major citys, of couse have a few hick towns ala Blueberry in San Andreas

I included the major citys for the US, The Mississippi, The Nevada Desert, and The Great Lakes, now before you nit-pick, this is not to scale, and only roughly put the citys in the right areas, of course it wont look like the actual states.

And if you cross that invisible red line, Border Control comes after you (storyline wise, you are unable to leave the country due to criminal record)

What do you guys think?

[Xero]

I think the next gen systems (GTA6, maybe 5 or 7 depending on how they label this gen's) will get something like GTA:USA and it'll be an MMO. I think that's the next logical step for the series after this gen. They could have expansions which would open up other countries/continents.

Something like that I think is too big to have at the scale of Liberty City for this gen.

[TerranRich]

Grand Theft Auto as an MMO would be pretty amazing, I think.

[BigDaddyCool]

I believe I said they should call Kansas City Heartland City, and St. Louis could be St. Francis or something like that.

[Kalyx triaD]

That would be an ambitious DLC plan. I don't think the public will ever be willing to buy 'code' even at a decent price. You need a base city and game on disc. But your idea works in that people could expand their GTA universe as they see fit.

Heh, GTA World.

[BigDaddyCool]

I would be really neat if you could escape a city and the local cops would have to stop chasing you.

[El Fangel]

And then you have the feds on your ass.

[BigDaddyCool]

Possibly. Should depend on your wanted leave. No Fed is going to give a shit in real life if you cross state lines while speeding.

[Xero]

They did that with SA. Once you left the city eventually the state police would take over.

[BigDaddyCool]

Shut up honkey.

[Jon Kano]

I heard the next GTA was gonna be in a city called either of the three but in a totally different era and country, like to suggest there is another country with the same city names at another point in history.

[Xero]

I'd like to see them mix it up and give us a Western. I can't think of a game anywhere near the scope of GTA with an old west theme. The only problem with it would be the soundtrack.

Or they could make a branch of the GTA engine and do it as a separate series.

[Jon Kano]

Thing is with the technology, I dunno if a fuckin desert would do its potential justice. I mean I'm thinkin a Western would be flat, few mountains maybe but nothing to actually make it useful as far as gameplay.


What about....and I've always thought this would be the daddy...

A futuristic-but-not-too-futuristic minority report type metropolis. With a story that focused on technology and advanced weapons as not only whats in the gameplay, but also the story.

[BigDaddyCool]

Western United States is full of mountains.

[Jon Kano]

Yeah, so what? What fucking use is a load of mountains on a GTA game? a few missions and to make the scenery look good. And yeah, its FULL of mountains so again, its not a good thing.

You'll be driving shitty cars, not many of them either in those days so thats like 5 different types, a few fuckin farm vehicles, great.

Whats that riding horses? no thanks.

Its a nice thought but let's let the western idea die gracefully with that piece of shit GUN.

[BigDaddyCool]

Your "logic" is impossible to follow.

[Jon Kano]

Not really, I made a point in relation to the idea, and then backed it up with something else to support its relevence, yinno how the fact that while you might like a Brokeback Moutain type computer game, there is only so much fun mountains can provide in terms of the landscape in a game.

Plus my minority-report idea pisses all over it.

[BigDaddyCool]

Why would Grand Theft Auto try to be minority report when it is already Grand Theft Auto. If there was going to be a minority report game, it would probably just be minority report. Your idea is asking Grand Theft Auto to be something it isn't.

I'm not saying a game based off Minority Report would be crap. I'm just saying Grand Theft Auto is its own game, and more and more it is based off real life gangs and events with place names just changed.

[Jon Kano]

I refer to the film purely based on its metropolis in the future type look, the scenery. Not the characters, the plot or the fucking pre-cog bullshit. Just the city.

[BigDaddyCool]

A futuristic-but-not-too-futuristic minority report type metropolis. With a story that focused on technology and advanced weapons as not only whats in the gameplay, but also the story.

I refer to the film purely based on its metropolis in the future type look, the scenery. Not the characters, the plot or the fucking pre-cog bullshit. Just the city.

Without getting all spazzed out, can you at least see why someone would be confuses?

Now, if they set a GTA in the not so distant future, that might be cool...but I still think it should be another game because of how Grand Theft Autos already are. It would just feel wierd in the context of GTA. I'm not sure how to explain it.

[RottingFreak]

Fuck all that. Let's have GTA Solar System. In this you become an astronaut and you go to the moon collect rock samples and shit. It would be glorious.

[BigDaddyCool]

RottingFreak, they made that game, it is called Mass Effect.

[Jon Kano]

Without getting all spazzed out, can you at least see why someone would be confuses?

Now, if they set a GTA in the not so distant future, that might be cool...but I still think it should be another game because of how Grand Theft Autos already are. It would just feel wierd in the context of GTA. I'm not sure how to explain it.

I meant an original story of course, was just trying to say how such a future could open up doors for like changing things like the weapons, and how the storyline would pan out. But yeah I didn't really state it well enough.

Was playing GTA4 on my mate's Xbox he has lent me and I can't get used to the driving style. It vexes me.

[BigDaddyCool]

Ah, that makes much more sence. But then the problem is, how far into the future? Would they be energy weapons? Would there be gay floating cars? Would it be in the time of transition where there were still plenty of gas engines and solid round weapons while there are prototypes of new vehicles and weapons availble?

As far as driving, do you know how to drive in real life? I'm not trying to knock you, I just don't know where you live and how much mass transit/bicycle riding is done where you live. Because you want to drive like you would in real life. If you speed and never slow down in really life, it is impossible to make turns. In GTA, it is the same.

[Jon Kano]

Hmmmmm, it would be pretty complicated.

I dunno about weapons, I was thinkin of more like futuristic gadjets like hologram decoys, face replicators, stuff like that.

Like the main cities would be like Minority Report, or even 5th Element style. But then the suburbs kinda like a utopia, everywhere is clean cut and I jus got this idea that as opposed to the other games where a lost of the cityscape and suburbs are gang neighbourhood, this could be more orientated around the idea of a clan cut utopia, and the problems lie deeper in the story - terror threats and terrorism, a political element maybe?

I dunno.

And yeah I do drive, pretty much in a countryside, about 10 mins from a town. But yeah I get what you mean.

I dunno.... jus somethin a lil more different I'm thinkin.

How about 1960s London again? lol

[BigDaddyCool]

Future idea should definately be another game, it would be ok like if it was perfect dark or something.

[Jon Kano]

On an unlrelated note I am enjoying having an Xbox 360 very much and I completed Call of Duty 4 last night. Go me.

[Blasted]

I truly hope this one is far better then GTA4

[AKin3D]

GTA: Hawaii anyone? I know at first thought it seems lame, but they really could go places with this. I mean they always can have you fly to the main land, or go to Japan. Plus their could be ship levels too.

[BigDaddyCool]

GTA: Hawaii could be big. I mean they have the island, so they don't have to explain why you can't get to the mainland. It would be interesting to say the least.

I was watching Gangland on history channel, how about GTA: Salt Lake City. The SLC has a horrible gang problem and in general an unruly counter culutre movement because the Mormons are so oppresive. I mean story line wise, you are every open to what is going on. Get caught up in the Church trying to silence people, then trying to dispose of the people they used to silence the others.

[Drakul]

I figured I'd make a GTA V thread but I see there already is one. Sorry for bumping such an old thread but it's better than a whole seperate thread. Plus I just found these posts here:

I'd like to see them mix it up and give us a Western. I can't think of a game anywhere near the scope of GTA with an old west theme. The only problem with it would be the soundtrack.

Or they could make a branch of the GTA engine and do it as a separate series.

Xero got his wish with RDR.

Yeah, so what? What fucking use is a load of mountains on a GTA game? a few missions and to make the scenery look good. And yeah, its FULL of mountains so again, its not a good thing.

You'll be driving shitty cars, not many of them either in those days so thats like 5 different types, a few fuckin farm vehicles, great.

Whats that riding horses? no thanks.

Its a nice thought but let's let the western idea die gracefully with that piece of shit GUN.

Kano underestimating what R* can do.

Anyway, the reason I'm posting here is because we can't be more than 6 months from an announcement.
R* tend to announce games just as they wrap up developing their current one. With MP3 due out in, I think, March next year, GTA V announcements can't be that far off. So, lets get back to talking about what we'd like to see and/or where we'd like to see it.

If you already posted ideas in 2008, have they changed? Improved?

I came across this GTA IV fan made video and thought it would be a cool feature to have in GTA V online:

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It would be cool to check out who was doing what. Maybe have the news chopper follow whoever has the highest wanted level, complete with updates on location and gamertag. Maybe even actions like "Suspect opens fire in mall. 12 officers down. Explosions."

There was a time I spawned as I joined a Free Roam game in GTA IV and the first thing I saw was a dangerously low helicopter chasing a guy in a cop car chasing a guy on a dirt bike, all very close to each other. I would really have liked to have seen what was going on there and how it ended.
If GTA V builds on how interactive RDR was, I'm sure watching other players could get some interesting results.
Especially if there are gangs like in RDR. The news chopper would automatically be there with updates and footage on a gang war between player gangs (if we could make them) and AI gangs in "hideouts".

Another thing that would be cool, especially in MP, would be a cherry picker.
One of these (ignore that this one is LEGO) :
http://images.wikia.com/lego/images/c/c8/8292.jpg

One player drives, the other player stands on the back, the 3rd player can control it. Raising, lowering and moving the crane while the 2nd player opens fire would be great for causing mayhem.

[El Fangel]

If GTA V was solely an improvement on GTA IV

- More save points, perhaps you can rent apartments or townhouses or something. Might add a new dynamic to the game.

- Either less motorcycle chases or more control.

- More aircraft, miss SA due to that.

- A parachute, please.

- An MP3 player option, to play songs stored o your system through the game.

- Option to restart mission from where it starts gamewise not cut scene (eliminate driving tacross city many times)

[Drakul]

Parachutes are in TBoGT and there was a lot of people wanting them back before that so I'd assume they'll make sure they are in GTA V.

[Kalyx triaD]

Didn't the XB versions of Vice City and San Andreas have a radio station that played your own music? That wasn't in GTA4?

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Only San Andreas on XBox had that. GTA 4 on PC does though.

GTA4 doesn't on console. I don't think they could do it properly on 360 anymore, that's why Smackdown had that hack job of user playlists.

Sony only supported the functionality after GTA4 was released, hence Burnout Paradise's patch.

[dronepool]

5 is already coming out? Wow, I played 4 for a few hours at friends house back in 2008 and haven't got around to buying it.

[Kalyx triaD]

I was wondering why that feature went scarce. I loved it. The all-encompassing soundtrack thing is cool too but when the game uses it itself that was extra cool. I remember THUG had Tony Hawk say general things about your next track in a mock radio station before the song played. It did a lot for me.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

5 is already coming out? Wow, I played 4 for a few hours at friends house back in 2008 and haven't got around to buying it.

There's been a grand total of 0 announcements. Probably waiting on next gen consoles I reckon.

[Kane Knight]

GTA4 doesn't on console. I don't think they could do it properly on 360 anymore, that's why Smackdown had that hack job of user playlists.

Xbox's playlist system is perfect for this. It's just shit for things like "entrance themes."

It still may not have been worth it to throw in, when the PS3 wouldn't yet support them anyway.

There's been a grand total of 0 announcements. Probably waiting on next gen consoles I reckon.

Does that mean we're going back to the "Of course the engine sucks, it's the first version on a new console" apologetics?

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Who cares, Saints Row 3 is almost here.

[Kane Knight]

Who cares, Saints Row 3 is almost here.

And it will rule.

[Taker it Easy]

Dude. They have been working on GTA 5 since GTA 4 was released.

Thats how it works.

[RoXer]

grand theft auto apologists

[Kane Knight]

grand theft auto apologists

Yes, it's hilarious that they exist.

[Drakul]

There's been a grand total of 0 announcements. Probably waiting on next gen consoles I reckon.

That's what I'm thinking. That and MGS Rising will be launch titles for at least one of the consoles.

[Nicky Fives]

I beat GTA IV every year during my Christmas break..... this year will be no different..... GTA London or GTA Tokyo makes the most sense to me for new locations, but I'd love a return to Vice City.....

[Kane Knight]

I beat GTA IV every year during my Christmas break..... this year will be no different..... GTA London or GTA Tokyo makes the most sense to me for new locations, but I'd love a return to Vice City.....

Grand Theft Auto: Paradise City.

Well, I mean, at least there's a lot of cars there.

[El Fangel]

What I meant is starting a mission in Hove Beach, which then required you to drive to Alderney to continue it. Then if you die, you have to drive all the fucking way back and lack of aircraft plus it being a 5 min drive got annoying quick especially for difficult missions.

[Xero]

Did you ever think of taking a taxi?

[Mr. C]

I’d love to see some mission where you have to escape out of prison. Liberty City, San Andreas, and Vice City on one map would be epic, but it can’t be done because Microsoft’s 360 wouldn’t be able to handle a game of that magnitude. Maybe they could cut parts of San Andreas. I imagine the game would be pretty big if they did that with GTA 4 graphics, but I’m sure it could be done.

[El Fangel]

Did you ever think of taking a taxi?

Of course I fucking didnt! :(

[D Mac]

I have a 360 remote. I just put some songs on a flash drive and play them and push pause on the remote when cutscenes happen.

[El Fangel]

I gotta say, the GTA4 soundtrack was just awful.

[D Mac]

Why not have 2 fucking cities you can be in? Like San Andreas and some other one and you can either take a commercial flight between them or fly there yourself.

[El Fangel]

I think two cities you can fly to would be better then one massive one.

[Kane Knight]

I have a 360 remote.


So you're the one.

[Nicky Fives]

I'd also be a fan of a two parter...... starting in Vice City in the 80's as a young punk kid that eventually gets busted halfway through the game, before getting out of Vice City Jail 25 years later, killing off the "minor" guys that fucked you over in Vice City, before heading off to Liberty to find the "main" guy that caused your demise, but having to take on missions in order to gain information about his whereabouts/new identity/etc.....It would be like 2 games in one.....

[Kane Knight]

I'd also be a fan of a two parter...... starting in Vice City in the 80's as a young punk kid that eventually gets busted halfway through the game, before getting out of Vice City Jail 25 years later, killing off the "minor" guys that fucked you over in Vice City, before heading off to Liberty to find the "main" guy that caused your demise, but having to take on missions in order to gain information about his whereabouts/new identity/etc.....It would be like 2 games in one.....

I think you just described Saints Row 2 and 3.

Unless Volition dropped the escape of the last guy who screwed you over in SR1.

[Emperor Smeat]

It appears the game will stay in the US setting with any rumors of a return to London or a new non-US place was squashed.

We go backwards and forwards on it. There are very interesting crime stories and other stories you can tell about anyplace in the world. Whether that would work with Grand Theft Auto — when so much about Grand Theft Auto is about the Americana, about the American media — is something I’m not sure about.
http://www.rockstarnetwork.net/content.php/1402-It-s-Looking-Like-GTA-V-Will-Remain-in-USA

Also teased was the producer from GTA III and Red Dead Redemption, Dan Houser, is in charge of the project and GTA V could have a more "Hollywood"-like style cinema feel as a result.
http://www.igta5.com/playstation-offical-magazine-says-dan-houser-working-on-gta-v

[Mooияakeя™]

Vice City was the place to be. Loved it. Such an effect a game can have was beyond me till I played that. More please.

[El Fangel]

Vice City had the most awesome feel to it, I agree.

[Nicky Fives]

I think you just described Saints Row 2 and 3.

Unless Volition dropped the escape of the last guy who screwed you over in SR1.

never played them, so I didn't take any ideas from them.....

[Drakul]

I didn't care for VC much. Map was too small, didn't really care about the story and I quickly got sick of playing a "tough guy" like Tommy. Same goes for CJ. The whole cartoony "I'm a tough street/mafia thug" thing was a big turn off in terms of liking the characters.

That's why I liked Niko so much. He was human and I hope the next guy is closer to Niko than CJ or Tommy.

I'm also hoping the story isn't an "everything worked out for your character and now he's rich, famous and in charge" story.

[Cool King]

http://www.rockstargames.com/

[The Mask]

if you type in gta 5 on google it brings up rockstars san andreas page, make of that what you will :'(

[#BROKEN Hasney]

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Take a deep breath everyone. Rockstar Games has updated their website with a splash screen showing the logo of a Grand Theft Auto V. No word on release of the actual game, but they did have a street date of November 2nd for the first trailer which is almost as good as having actual news about a game.
Helpful of them to clarify that Roman numeral in the logo. Wouldn't want confusion. Lead them to thinking that since dinosaurs are the new zombies, maybe it's Grand Theft Auto Velociraptor. Or perhaps folks might suspect it's centered around the adventures of a crotchety old police detective in Greenwich village, because I would totally play Grand Theft Auto Vigoda (http://www.abevigoda.com/).
Thank God Rockstar is aware of the intellectual capacity of the audience that it sells complex, adult-oriented entertainment to.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Now I just want Grand Theft Auto Velociraptor :'(

[The Mask]

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/292424/gta-v-codenamed-rush-characters-uncovered/

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Clyde:
23 - Moronic, almost inbred and creepy white trash hillbilly. Very naïve but in a creepy 'it's only incest sort of way'
Brother Adam:
Welsh monk / cult leader / yoga teacher - 50, very lithe, very into exploring your personal tension through gripping massage. Needs Welsh accent.
Rich Roberts:
English hardman actor, 35, who acts tough but who wants to do serious work - the only problem is he can't quite read the words.


Those 3 at least better be real. Rich Roberts needs to be an ex football player too.

[Cool King]

It's got me thinking.

Maybe in GTA V you play as a cop or an FBI agent, but you do crimes for money or something along those lines, as the V in the GTA V logo looks like it's supposed to represent money. (The Dollar)

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Maybe you play as a counterfeiter.

[Kane Knight]

never played them, so I didn't take any ideas from them.....

Not saying just did. Just saying they had what you were looking for. :)

Sorta.

Now I just want Grand Theft Auto Velociraptor :'(

I want Grand Theft Auto: V for Vendetta.

Finally, I can shoot those anonymous twats.

[Drakul]

It'll be San Andreas. The artwork of that V and the stuff around it is like the art used for SA.

On top of that, the cast of characters includes actors, cult leaders, yoga teachers, Agents, wacked out mothers. All very California.

[Kane Knight]

Can we get anonymous in there somehow? I'd still like to hunt them for sport, and the real world has laws treating them as human. :'(

[Drakul]

They could dump a group of hackers called "Faceless" or something in the game and have a mission where they bring down a network or system of someone they believe is "corrupt". Maybe a Ruport Murdoch like figure.

It turns out they are right, he is corrupt. Corrupt enough to hire you to go to each of their houses around SA and kill them.

That could work as either one mission where you go from point A to B to C to D and kill them one at a time or it could be spread out into multiple missions, taking them down one at a time. One could be a stealth mission, another could be a car chase etc.

[Drakul]

They could tie it in with GTA IV and have the guy being hacked the head of Weazle.

[El Fangel]

It was announced!

Trailer next week!

http://www.rockstargames.com/

[El Fangel]

-There is a blog from a guy who *claims* he knows people who work for Rockstar.

-He says it will take place in Chicago, Miami, or LA again

-Officer's Tenpenny and partner will be back (one was played by the late Chris Penn)

-You will have to types of 'karma' points, because you will start out as a COP. You can choose to do good for the law, or bad for the criminals.

[El Fangel]

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[Xero]

-There is a blog from a guy who *claims* he knows people who work for Rockstar.

-He says it will take place in Chicago, Miami, or LA again

-Officer's Tenpenny and partner will be back (one was played by the late Chris Penn)

-You will have to types of 'karma' points, because you will start out as a COP. You can choose to do good for the law, or bad for the criminals.

You see, the first bullet point completely negates him because he doesn't even know if it'll take place in one of three obvious cities.

Why, he probably even said it could happen in Tokyo.

[Drakul]

And Tenpenny wont be back for two reasons.
1) He's from the GTA III era. R* have said multiple times that the GTA III era is dead. You'll never see CJ, Tenpenny, Claude, Tommy, Rosenburg, El Buro, 8-Ball etc again.

2) San Andreas Spoiler?:
Didn't he die in San Andreas? I never finished it but I'm sure I heard he's killed at some point.

[El Fangel]

Thats what was posted on another site, take it with a grain of salt.

As for GTA:SA

You never see Tenpenny getting killed, CJ stomps his face

[Xero]

Wouldn't matter if someone was killed at some point because it could be a different time period. If it's current gen, I'd guess it's not contemporary. If it's next gen, maybe.

[Kane Knight]

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Man, those graphics look like total shit. What's with those character models? Like some serious CD-i bullshit there.

[El Fangel]

Yeah, for such a new gen game it has a 2nd gen look. Ugh, probably won't buy it now.

[Kane Knight]

And that bike did NOT handle realistically. What kind of physics engine are they using?

Do they even have one?

[El Fangel]

The soundtrack is terrible, they should have some Justin Bieber playing, it would fit the 80's theme so well.

[Drakul]

GTA V info from Kotaku:

Strengthening long-standing rumors for years that the next Grand Theft Auto would be set in Los Angeles or a fictional version thereof, a source familiar with the game told Kotaku today that those rumors are true. GTA V will be set in some version of L.A., bringing the famous franchise to a place that last got the GTA treatment in the series' top-selling Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas. (So much for our other dream GTA V cities.)

We're also hearing from multiple sources that the game will feature more than just one playable character. That would seem to be a natural evolution for the series. Following the release of the PlayStation 2's Grand Theft Auto III and Grand Theft Auto Vice City, PSP games set in the same cities as those console games let players control a single new character apiece. Those portable games helped establish the idea that there's more than one life worth living in a Rockstar-made GTA city.

Then, following the release of Grand Theft Auto IV the series' creators at Rockstar Games allowed gamers to play as a second and then a third character in the exact same high-definition version of Liberty City. Those who bought the base game and the two downloadable episodes could choose from the GTA IV's menu whether to play as Niko Bellic, Johnny Klebitz or Luis Lopez. Each had their own lengthy, interesting and distinct playable story. A GTA V that features more than one playable hero would extend this concept further.

Back when GTA IV was being shown to press, Rockstar representatives would stress the importance of the number in the title. As successful as Grand Theft Auto: Vice City and Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas were, they noted, it was the game that preceded them, GTA III that was a paradigm shift. They hoped and believed that GTA IV, by being a numbered game would have and merit some outsized influence of its own. If that is still the company's philosophy, then after Grand Theft Auto IV's un-numbered episodes, The Lost and Damned and The Ballad of Gay Tony, a numbered GTA V should again merit special attention. Shifting cities was not sufficient cause for a new numbered GTA before. A change to the series' formula, however, one that gives players more than one controllable character, would.

Rockstar has had a lot of experience with L.A., working with Team Bondi to create a mid-20th-century version of it for this year's L.A. Noire, presenting a drive-able version in Midnight Club and, most famously of all, turning it into the amazing Los Santos as one of three featured cities in GTA: San Andreas.

Rockstar Games did not respond to requests for comment about GTA V today. Should we hear them, we'll update this piece. Otherwise, look for the official trailer for the new game on November 2.

[Requiem]

Man, those graphics look like total shit. What's with those character models? Like some serious CD-i bullshit there.

What are you talking about? Those are FANTASTIC HD graphics. Think you are totally full of shit here and have no idea what you're talking about. Can't believe they didn't update the HUD though. Huge disappointment there.

[Emperor Smeat]

:lol: the date on the trailer was specifically chosen because it is the 3 year anniversary of when Jack Thompson got disbarred as a lawyer for life in the state of Florida after years of trying to sue video games and almost everything Rockstar made.

Thompson hates the GTA series the most and since this is the first console game in the series to arrive post-disbarment, Rockstar wants to celebrate the occasion.

http://kotaku.com/5853157/gta-v-trailer-news-hit-on-anniversary-of-bad-day-for-gta-foe

[Kane Knight]

:lol: the date on the trailer was specifically chosen because it is the 3 year anniversary of when Jack Thompson got disbarred as a lawyer for life in the state of Florida after years of trying to sue video games and almost everything Rockstar made.

Thompson hates the GTA series the most and since this is the first console game in the series to arrive post-disbarment, Rockstar wants to celebrate the occasion.

http://kotaku.com/5853157/gta-v-trailer-news-hit-on-anniversary-of-bad-day-for-gta-foe

Well, it is a computer murder simulator.

[El Fangel]

Excuse me gents, I am off to kill some hookers to get my money back.

[Xero]

Still holding out for the MMO GTA: Earth.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Dunno why, but GTA: Earth made me think of a mechanic where it has real time flight times from one place to the next.

No plane would take off, everyone would be killed before it left the tarmac.

[Drakul]

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[Kane Knight]

Dunno why, but GTA: Earth made me think of a mechanic where it has real time flight times from one place to the next.

No plane would take off, everyone would be killed before it left the tarmac.

It's more fun to murder people in midair.

[Drakul]

The "V Five" has been compared to the "V Five" on Native American five dollar bills and they seem very similar.
The $5 bills in question were in print from 1878 to 1964. More accurately, 1899 for that specific $5 bill.

This has people thinking 2 things. 1) the game will be set 1899 and/or
2) We'll have a native american main character.

I can't see it being set in 1899, that's what RDR is for.

[Kane Knight]

The "V Five" has been compared to the "V Five" on Native American five dollar bills and they seem very similar.
The $5 bills in question were in print from 1878 to 1964. More accurately, 1899 for that specific $5 bill.

This has people thinking 2 things. 1) the game will be set 1899 and/or
2) We'll have a native american main character.

I can't see it being set in 1899, that's what RDR is for.

Or, more likely, it looks cool.

This is the sort of shit you see on rap albums, which have nothing to do with the 19th century or indians. The "V" probably was chosen because it looks cooler than a "5"

[Kane Knight]

We're gonna see a lot of these, though:

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EpilepticTrees

[El Fangel]

Its going to be difficult to make a new game setting without it being compared to another game I think. With Vice City, you had the 80's, with San Andreas, you had the early 90's and with GTA4, you had the late 90's or early 2000's.

What I honestly see, if them using a current modern day setting or late 60's/early 70's.

There was alot of good music there for the soundtrack and the cars they can use will be amazing, you have the 67 Mustang, 71 Olds 442, drool:

[FearedSanctity]

What? Unless you meant GTAIII, I think it's incredibly obvious GTAIV was modern day.

[El Fangel]

The music and feel had me guessing late 90's/early 2000's.

Not sure if they mentioned it anywheres in the game.

[RoXer]

lol

[Mr. C]

The music and feel had me guessing late 90's/early 2000's.

Not sure if they mentioned it anywheres in the game.

Daddy Yankee - "Gasolina" was released in 2004. Not to mention Nikko texting. Wouldn't that be considered mid 2000s?

Vice City was mid '80s, San Andreas was early '90s, GTA III was late '90s/early 2000s, and GTA IV was current time.

[Mr. C]

California to Mexico would be sick, and I hope they bring back stuff like haircuts and tattoos, minus the gym.

[Kane Knight]

Setting it before Red Dead Redemption would just be a RDR prequel, so no, absolutely throw that theory out of the window.

It'll be interesting if it is pre-80s though, I can't say I would mind having a game full of 50s/60s/70s radio stations.


I would like another RDR down the line, and the prospect of using WORKYADAMNAG Marston will piss off many, so a prequel would be cool. But it would be Red Read Resomething, not Grand Theft Auto. It'd actually be funny to see a GTA game before the Automobile even existed, but....

It'd be cool to see a 60s/70s game.

Actually, it'd be awesome if we had expansions in different time periods or something. Same city, different times. It would probably be immense, though.

[FearedSanctity]

Yeah I think 60s/70s is due up. Rockstar has covered pretty much ever era but that one, I believe

[Kane Knight]

Prohibition era GTA.

[El Fangel]

I was about to mention that the 30's and 40's would be kinda cool with the Al Capone gangster style.

[Kane Knight]

Capone was biggest in the 20s, and Prohibition ended in 33. While the 40s had their own colour, The Roaring Twenties is where it's at.

[Kane Knight]

I shouldn't even say "biggest." Al Capone went down in '31. I mean, there were other gangsters, but the era's still best handled in the 20s.

[El Fangel]

I need to brush up on my American history.

*Turns on History Channel*

What the fuck, Storage Wars?

[Kane Knight]

The History Channel is to history as MTV is to Music.

[Kane Knight]

Or Fox News is to news. AW SNAP!

[El Fangel]

It was good years ago but now plays absolute shit?

[El Fangel]

Or Fox News is to news. AW SNAP!

Or for a tie in, as Droford is to fact.

[Kane Knight]

It was pretty shit years ago, too.

80% of the shows were about Hitler (getting the details wrong) or Nostradamus (getting the details wrong).

Actually, they probably could have just called it the Hitler channel.

[El Fangel]

Did we just turn a video game discussion into a burn on Droford?

[Kane Knight]

Or for a tie in, as Droford is to fact.

That's unfair. The History Channel and MTV are at least ACQUAINTED with their fields.

I bet even Fox has some people who have read a newspaper.

[Kane Knight]

Did we just turn a video game discussion into a burn on Droford?

Well, he is kinda like a third gen game. Limited and barely functional.

[El Fangel]

Well, he is kinda like a third gen game. Limited and barely functional.

:rofl:

I wonder if you blew in his ear if his brain would start working the way cartridges did.

[Kane Knight]

:rofl:

I wonder if you blew in his ear if his brain would start working the way cartridges did.

That was a misnomer. It was actually the act of removing it which tended to scrape the contacts. blowing on it was superfluous and, thanks to saliva, potentially harmful.

So what we really need to do is remove his brain, re-insert it, and then boot him back up.

[El Fangel]

I always thought it was blowing the dust off it.

You have just ruined my childhood you bastard.

[Xero]

Yeah I think 60s/70s is due up. Rockstar has covered pretty much ever era but that one, I believe

Not that it really matters since it was in the 2D era, but GTA:London was set in the 60s.

Honestly, I like the idea of having the story arc over years. You release GTA:5 and have it be a complete and epic game. Let's say it's set in the 60s. It ends with somewhat of a cliffhanger, but not a huge one as to make the game be able to stand on its own. Say someone is sent to prison (as previously mentioned). A year or two later, you release the first DLC set in the 80s and so on. It would be the same city but with different textures and a few differences in general (more highways, etc).

[Kane Knight]

I always thought it was blowing the dust off it.

You have just ruined my childhood you bastard.

That's why it's a misnomer. And also: MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

[Mr. C]

A variety of clothing, haircuts, and tattoos (much like San Andreas). I have no idea why this was taken out. GTA shouldn’t be as silly as Saints Row, but they shouldn’t take themselves seriously.

[El Fangel]

I agree, they need a middle ground between San Andreas and GTA4

[Mr. C]

Although I love the feel and realism of GTA IV, the enormity of possibilities in San Andreas wasn't surpassed.

[Drakul]

I think I've got it figured out. If you look at the logo and remember what we supposedly know about the game...
The game, according to various places like Kotaku, takes place in LA (or the GTA version) and is said to include multiple main characters. The logo reads Grand Theft Auto V Five. What if the logo has V and the word five because we'll have five main characters to control.
Either we'll have the choice of one of five characters like the original GTA or it'll switch from person to person. Mr A will be our guy for a chunk, then Miss B will take over for a while before we get to play as Mr C etc.
They could have them all be members of one gang trying to take over the city/state or seemingly unconnected people who happen to have interweaving stories.

[Kane Knight]

A variety of clothing, haircuts, and tattoos (much like San Andreas). I have no idea why this was taken out. GTA shouldn’t be as silly as Saints Row, but they shouldn’t take themselves seriously.

It was taken out because it was "too hard" to do with their new visuals and stuff. Plus, they were terrified people would make Niko look silly during their serious cutscenes.

It's the Hideo Kojima effect. They don't want your gameplay interfering with their story.

[Kane Knight]

I think I've got it figured out. If you look at the logo and remember what we supposedly know about the game...
The game, according to various places like Kotaku, takes place in LA (or the GTA version) and is said to include multiple main characters. The logo reads Grand Theft Auto V Five. What if the logo has V and the word five because we'll have five main characters to control.
Either we'll have the choice of one of five characters like the original GTA or it'll switch from person to person. Mr A will be our guy for a chunk, then Miss B will take over for a while before we get to play as Mr C etc.
They could have them all be members of one gang trying to take over the city/state or seemingly unconnected people who happen to have interweaving stories.

Or it could mean "V-5" as in Version 5. MATT HARDY IS COMING TO THE GTA FRANCHISE!

[Nicky Fives]

Not that it really matters since it was in the 2D era, but GTA:London was set in the 60s.

Honestly, I like the idea of having the story arc over years. You release GTA:5 and have it be a complete and epic game. Let's say it's set in the 60s. It ends with somewhat of a cliffhanger, but not a huge one as to make the game be able to stand on its own. Say someone is sent to prison (as previously mentioned). A year or two later, you release the first DLC set in the 80s and so on. It would be the same city but with different textures and a few differences in general (more highways, etc).

excellent idea....

[El Fangel]

Or perhaps, have the main character go to jail for four years on some charge. Then 4 years later he gets out (they do the release date for the game EXACTLY four years from the prior game)

That could be an interesting idea.

[Kane Knight]

Or perhaps, have the main character go to jail for four years on some charge. Then 4 years later he gets out (they do the release date for the game EXACTLY four years from the prior game)

That could be an interesting idea.

Or he could get blown up at the end of the first game, where he's put in the local prison's hospital wing and doesn't wake up for a year or two, and has to shoot his way out with the help of one of the few people still loyal to him.

...what, you've heard that before?

[Chavo Classic]

Honestly, I like the idea of having the story arc over years. You release GTA:5 and have it be a complete and epic game. Let's say it's set in the 60s. It ends with somewhat of a cliffhanger, but not a huge one as to make the game be able to stand on its own. Say someone is sent to prison (as previously mentioned). A year or two later, you release the first DLC set in the 80s and so on. It would be the same city but with different textures and a few differences in general (more highways, etc).

This was done fairly well in Mafia 2. The city layout remained mostly the same but the cars, music, clothing and look of the buildings evolved during the period the protagonist spent in jail. It was a nice touch.

[Xero]

Yeah, that's pretty much what I figure. Though I am starting to think that it might be a little too much for DLC content, considering you'd probably new an entirely new map, whereas in GTA 4 and the DLC it was the exact same city/map.

I'm not adverse to paying full price for the DLC, honestly. If it really is LA, maybe the expansions/DLC/sequels will be the other two SA cities. And if you own GTA 5 (or if it's DLC) then there's the option of flying to the other cities to mess around and do certain missions.

[Emperor Smeat]

The potentially extra cities would have to be way smaller than the one in GTA V especially if the price on a DLC would be near the main game's price and the time needed to develop them.

The Episodes from GTA IV took well over a year to make and going back to the Vice City and SA games, those took about 6-9 months to make each out of the GTA III engine. Only reasons the Episodes was even created was due Rockstar asking Microsoft for money to finish GTA IV and in return made the Episodes as payback.

[Mr. C]

It was taken out because it was "too hard" to do with their new visuals and stuff. Plus, they were terrified people would make Niko look silly during their serious cutscenes.

It's the Hideo Kojima effect. They don't want your gameplay interfering with their story.

I assumed that they left it out because the next GTA would have nothing to add.

I could live without more clothes. The clothes provided for Nikko were all suiting of him. Like, he looked like he'd naturally wear them. Made it more realistic, so I hope the next GTA pulls it off with the same dignity as IV did.

Maybe they could include haircuts and tattoos as DLC for V.

[El Fangel]

What if as DLC, they give you an entirely new city.

Think about it for a second. Say for example you play through the regular game and then the DLC is you having to go to another city to help out family or whatever reason they make up for you having to go there.

Basically, it would be like San Andreas in that you go to a whole new city every so often. I never felt that with GTA4, mostly because its all the same city.

[El Fangel]

I assumed that they left it out because the next GTA would have nothing to add.

I could live without more clothes. The clothes provided for Nikko were all suiting of him. Like, he looked like he'd naturally wear them. Made it more realistic, so I hope the next GTA pulls it off with the same dignity as IV did.

Maybe they could include haircuts and tattoos as DLC for V.

I had him in a gray suit as soon as possible.

With the russian fur hat :D

[Xero]

What if as DLC, they give you an entirely new city.

Think about it for a second. Say for example you play through the regular game and then the DLC is you having to go to another city to help out family or whatever reason they make up for you having to go there.

Basically, it would be like San Andreas in that you go to a whole new city every so often. I never felt that with GTA4, mostly because its all the same city.

To be fair, the scale was different. While SA was a whole (or part of an) entire state, Liberty City in 4 was generally about the same size as the map in SA, maybe a bit smaller if you take into account the amount of nothingness in SA.

Meatball is right that it might not be feasible as DLC. Personally, as I said, I wouldn't mind paying for a whole new game, especially if it's the scale of the original in terms of both map and story. Maybe for that game include a code where if you own GTA 5 you can fly to it with free DLC (or $10 for a used copy, keeping the current trends in mind) where it basically downloads the entire map from GTA 5 but with the cars, pedestrians etc of the later game.

[El Fangel]

To be fair, the scale was different. While SA was a whole (or part of an) entire state, Liberty City in 4 was generally about the same size as the map in SA, maybe a bit smaller if you take into account the amount of nothingness in SA.

Meatball is right that it might not be feasible as DLC. Personally, as I said, I wouldn't mind paying for a whole new game, especially if it's the scale of the original in terms of both map and story. Maybe for that game include a code where if you own GTA 5 you can fly to it with free DLC (or $10 for a used copy, keeping the current trends in mind) where it basically downloads the entire map from GTA 5 but with the cars, pedestrians etc of the later game.

I know it was about the same scale and that in itself is mindblowing. I think SA even though it did have areas where not much is going on, it simulated a real place. Not everywhere is hustle and bustle and I actually had a motorbike in that game, I used to go do cruises on just because it was fun to open up on a straight stretch in the country.

The open desert in Las Venturas many people felt was unneeded, but take a Quad, Bandito or Sanchez out there and its fun as hell.

[Mr. C]

I had him in a gray suit as soon as possible.

With the russian fur hat :D

It would be fun seeing Nikko dressed in a durag, jeans or shorts, and tee or without tee. :y:

[Kane Knight]

I assumed that they left it out because the next GTA would have nothing to add.

I could live without more clothes. The clothes provided for Nikko were all suiting of him. Like, he looked like he'd naturally wear them. Made it more realistic, so I hope the next GTA pulls it off with the same dignity as IV did.

Maybe they could include haircuts and tattoos as DLC for V.

If you keep throwing around "realistic," it'll lose what vestigial meaning it still has.

Please, I work for the save the words foundation. Already, "realistic," along with its brothers "innovation" and "immersion" have been so thoroughly abused they will never be functional members of society.

The damage must stop.

[Captain of Fun]

It's terrible, the fate that has befallen the word "epic".

[Kane Knight]

It's terrible, the fate that has befallen the word "epic".

Epic truth.

[Kane Knight]

I hear "awesome" is blowing people for change. Or is that Sascha?

[Captain of Fun]

First of all, let me get something off my chest. AERIS'S DEATH IS NOT A TRAGEDY. No! Shut the hell up. It's not. She gets shish kabobbed by a psycho with a giant katana. Shocking, yes. Sad, sure. A tragedy? Not so much, no. Stop tossing the word "tragic" around before it becomes totally interchangeable with "sad." "Tragic" is supposed to be reserved for special cases. Is Aeris an overwhelmingly noble character brought to corruption and ruin because of an intrinsic flaw that also happens to be inseparable from the qualities which make us admire her in the first place? No. Sephiroth falls from the ceiling and impales her from behind while she's just kneeling there, catching everyone off guard. It doesn't qualify as tragic if you didn't see it coming. Bummer? Sure. Tragic? Not so much.

[Kane Knight]

Aeris was a pretty shitty character anyway. I don't get why it had the resounding impact it did.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

I guess it was just because the game was iconic, so the death became iconic too. First Final Fantasy on the PSX.

They were out of the sandbox and play time was over.

[Captain of Fun]

Also, most people picked Aeris in all the love triangle mini games.

[Kane Knight]

Also, most people picked Aeris in all the love triangle mini games.

Probably because she was slightly less cardboard than Tough Girl...I mean....Tifa.

[El Fangel]

What are you talking about, Tina wasn't cardboard! Didn't you see how sharp her elbows were?

[Kane Knight]

What are you talking about, Tina wasn't cardboard! Didn't you see how sharp her elbows were?

Laminate, motherfucker!

[Mr. C]

Let us have more customization and outfits, but not too much. Not sure how possible it is, but periodically create and release new clothes, haircuts, and tattoos after its release through DLC.

[Xero]

So basically turn GTA into The Sims.

[Mr. C]

How's that turning GTA into The Sims? The dating/going out with friends is like a Sims game, but wanting a character customized doesn't really seem Sims.

[Kane Knight]

LOL. Yeah, customisation options are sims-like. And Xero loves Simdown vs Raw.

[Xero]

How's that turning GTA into The Sims? The dating/going out with friends is like a Sims game, but wanting a character customized doesn't really seem Sims.

The fact that you want it as paid DLC is my point.

$5 for new hair. $5 for new suits. $5 for more hair.

[Kane Knight]

The fact that you want it as paid DLC is my point.

$5 for new hair. $5 for new suits. $5 for more hair.

*rereads for the word "paid"*

*Search negative*

Free DLC might be naive, but I doubt he was asking to pay for it. Nor is it impossible. If Koei can release new outfits and shit for free, surely Rockstar can.

[Xero]

When I read "DLC", I ALWAYS assume paid unless specified as free. If I'm wrong, okay. Free DLC like that is :y:.

[Mr. C]

Absolutely. I should've specified that the game should start out like GTA 4, where you only have a limited selection of clothes and no options for haircuts or tattoos, but later on sometime after its release, Rockstar starts creating and releasing new clothes, haircuts, and tattoos as DLC for free. I sure wouldn't pay though.

[Crimson]

Bring back the army tanks

[Crimson]

And a hidden 'attack dog ' cheat where dogs come outta nowhere and kill pedestrians around you

[Emperor Smeat]

Can't forget to bring back the pedestrians riot cheat as well.

Was always worth a few laughs seeing everyone start brawling while just watching the whole thing occur in Vice City while in San Andreas it was an even bigger riot with smoke coming from buildings and cars on fire everywhere.

[El Fangel]

I like how my sweet ride hoarding was useful in Los Santos at the end of SA due to the lack of cars.

[Kane Knight]

I like how my sweet ride hoarding was useful in Los Santos at the end of SA due to the lack of cars.

Finally, OCD has a perk!

Absolutely. I should've specified that the game should start out like GTA 4, where you only have a limited selection of clothes and no options for haircuts or tattoos, but later on sometime after its release, Rockstar starts creating and releasing new clothes, haircuts, and tattoos as DLC for free. I sure wouldn't pay though.

Or, they could just add a ton of stuff up front.

However, Saints Row 2 offered the Unkut pack, and that added a ton of stuff. Was it as pretty as GTAIV? No, but certainly they could do it. Continued support is a good way to keep people buying your game, and freedbies always help.

[El Fangel]

Its funny, I always have a Tampa and a remodeled Clover in the Garage from the Start.

[Kane Knight]

I have a TARDIS. I win. :shifty:

[Nicky Fives]

I like how my sweet ride hoarding was useful in Los Santos at the end of SA due to the lack of cars.

I always have a nice car and a motorcycle at every safehouse.....

[El Fangel]

Playing wasted I stole bikes and hid them.

[Mr. C]

Or, they could just add a ton of stuff up front.

However, Saints Row 2 offered the Unkut pack, and that added a ton of stuff. Was it as pretty as GTAIV? No, but certainly they could do it. Continued support is a good way to keep people buying your game, and freedbies always help.

Just add all the stuff from San Andreas, and it would be amazing. I don’t care what the plot is or where it is. I just want haircuts and tattoos!

[Kane Knight]

If it's anything like the last game, the plot will be cardboard, anyway.

I hear the expansions were good, but hooboy.

[El Fangel]

To be frank, Liberty City in GTA4 wasn't that much fun to dick around in either.

[Crimson]

New trailer this week!

[Xero]

To be frank, Liberty City in GTA4 wasn't that much fun to dick around in either.

What? I dumped probably 40-50 hours just fucking around. At least a quarter of which was dicking around online.

[El Fangel]

I am not counting online and I found SA far more entertaining with all the cool places to go.

[The Mask]

yeah SA and VC were way way better than GTA 4.

[El Fangel]

VC wasn't as good in my opinion. In SA you just felt like you were free to do whatever. Here you feel like you are in a box.

[Mr. C]

In terms of gameplay, San Andreas = the most enjoyable video game I’ve ever played, hands down. I simply don’t get why people want realism in games. If I wanted realism, I’d get in my car.

[Buzzkill]

Do you really not understand why people want realism in games or are you just saying that

[Xero]

Depends on how far the realism goes, honestly.

If you think GTA 4 is "realistic", I've got news for you.

[Kane Knight]

In terms of gameplay, San Andreas = the most enjoyable video game I’ve ever played, hands down. I simply don’t get why people want realism in games. If I wanted realism, I’d get in my car.
"Here's an idea for a new reality show, howabout everyone just looks outside their freakin' window?"

If people wanted realism, Call of Duty would be weeks of asking your parents to buy you better equipment, followed by 18 months recovering from combat in a shitty hospital that's underfunded and forgotten because it only serves people no longer fighting.

It's not "realism" people want, it's sluggish brown they want.

Still, in an era where millions of people are playing games which equate to chores, GTA is kind of a minor offender.

[Drakul]

Ok, we're at that time again when an "unnamed source" starts claiming to have details about the next GTA game. The details had two parts, one was just general details and the other was major spoilers. I haven't read the major spoilers so what I'm posting here is the general details.

These spoilers tell you...
Who the main character is.
Where and when it takes place.
How the story begins.
What the game revolves around.
What game modes are in and how many players the MP has.
Info about the PC version.
Info about the map.
Minor gameplay details.

•The protagonist is Hispanic and his name is Adrian.
•It takes place in San Andreas in 2012. The Mayan end of the world is parodied a lot because of this.
•You start out in Los Santos and are in your rival’s turf, Varrios Los Aztecas, after getting beaten up and robbed.
•The game revolves around money in a big deal. I’d reveal the big idea, but I don’t want to ruin it.
•Multiplayer is in again. There are a couple of new game modes, co-op story, and 32-player game modes for consoles and 64 player for PC. PC also includes dedicated servers.
•PC comes out on launch and is being ported by Leeds. From what they have shown us it is optimized much better than GTA 4.
•San Andreas includes all the same cities from GTA SA and this time they have all became ab it bigger as well as much more detailed.
•Gang turf wars are back. This time not only the general gang are in charge but different sets such as57th Ballas or the Eastside Azteca. They have their own graffiti. You can tag up stuff with custom sprays now too.

If you read and post the major spoilers, always mark them as such. I don't want to come into this thread and see the ending has been posted. I had LA Noire and Red Dead Redemption spoiled for me because of that, I don't want that happening with GTA V.

[The Mask]

Depends on how far the realism goes, honestly.

If you think GTA 4 is "realistic", I've got news for you.

i don't think people mean in terms of mass murdering slavic illegal immigrants, more the driving and depressingly ungratifying story.

[Extreme Angle]

Mt Chilliad :D

[Drakul]

ungratifying story.

I really like the story of IV and its episodes. They were much better than the usual "You got rich and now you're the boss" stories VC and SA had.

[Xero]

The driving in GTA 4 was far from realistic, and the story was pretty amazing, probably the best in the series. WTF?

[Kane Knight]

I really like the story of IV and its episodes. They were much better than the usual "You got rich and now you're the boss" stories VC and SA had.

Why do I have the feeling the sole reason you like it more is that it's "different."

[DAMN iNATOR]

Why not have 2 fucking cities you can be in? Like San Andreas and some other one and you can either take a commercial flight between them or fly there yourself.

Not to mention, why not be able to visit other locations in the series' past? (Granted, the first "advert" for GTA V said "This time it's OVER, Liberty City...") But still, in GTA: S.A., not only could you fly between Los Santos (L.A.), San Fierro (San Fran) & Las Venturas (Vegas, natch...), there was also a main storyline mission where C.J. was contacted by Salvatore Leone and asked to fly to LC and deal with some thugs there for him. Ended up being one of my favorite missions in the game, if not the entire series so far.

[Drakul]

Why do I have the feeling the sole reason you like it more is that it's "different."

Different is good.

As much fun as each GTA has been, VC and SA had the same basic story. You start with nothing, you do some work for various people, an antagonist is introduced, you eventually kill the antagonist, you get rich and/or powerful, role credits. I guess I just don't like the whole rags to riches story.

It was good that GTA IV didn't follow that formula exactly, though I know it did follow it to a degree. It felt more satifying to me to have Niko/Johnny have a bitter sweet ending of "It's over, but..." than if they included an ending where Niko becomes a multimillionaire crime lord.
It wasn't all gloom, though. Luis had a pretty happy ending for a GTA game. It showed you could have a "happy" ending without going the money and power route each time.

[Kane Knight]

Different is good.

As much fun as each GTA has been, VC and SA had the same basic story. You start with nothing, you do some work for various people, an antagonist is introduced, you eventually kill the antagonist, you get rich and/or powerful, role credits. I guess I just don't like the whole rags to riches story.

It was good that GTA IV didn't follow that formula exactly, though I know it did follow it to a degree. It felt more satifying to me to have Niko/Johnny have a bitter sweet ending of "It's over, but..." than if they included an ending where Niko becomes a multimillionaire crime lord.
It wasn't all gloom, though. Luis had a pretty happy ending for a GTA game. It showed you could have a "happy" ending without going the money and power route each time.

Different is different. Good is good. While there is some overlap, merely being different does not automatically mean good. TNA is different. TNA is definitely not good. Twilight, fucking Twilight is different. Are you a Twilight fan, Drakul? Do you "rock out" to My Chemical Romance while watching TNA and writing Twilight fanfic, Drakul?

[Kane Knight]

Not to mention, why not be able to visit other locations in the series' past? (Granted, the first "advert" for GTA V said "This time it's OVER, Liberty City...") But still, in GTA: S.A., not only could you fly between Los Santos (L.A.), San Fierro (San Fran) & Las Venturas (Vegas, natch...), there was also a main storyline mission where C.J. was contacted by Salvatore Leone and asked to fly to LC and deal with some thugs there for him. Ended up being one of my favorite missions in the game, if not the entire series so far.

Too much space taken up on disc by gritty brown textures.

[RoXer]

Different is different. Good is good. While there is some overlap, merely being different does not automatically mean good. TNA is different. TNA is definitely not good. Twilight, fucking Twilight is different. Are you a Twilight fan, Drakul? Do you "rock out" to My Chemical Romance while watching TNA and writing Twilight fanfic, Drakul?

what

[Emperor Smeat]

Ok, we're at that time again when an "unnamed source" starts claiming to have details about the next GTA game. The details had two parts, one was just general details and the other was major spoilers. I haven't read the major spoilers so what I'm posting here is the general details.

These spoilers tell you...
Who the main character is.
Where and when it takes place.
How the story begins.
What the game revolves around.
What game modes are in and how many players the MP has.
Info about the PC version.
Info about the map.
Minor gameplay details.

•The protagonist is Hispanic and his name is Adrian.
•It takes place in San Andreas in 2012. The Mayan end of the world is parodied a lot because of this.
•You start out in Los Santos and are in your rival’s turf, Varrios Los Aztecas, after getting beaten up and robbed.
•The game revolves around money in a big deal. I’d reveal the big idea, but I don’t want to ruin it.
•Multiplayer is in again. There are a couple of new game modes, co-op story, and 32-player game modes for consoles and 64 player for PC. PC also includes dedicated servers.
•PC comes out on launch and is being ported by Leeds. From what they have shown us it is optimized much better than GTA 4.
•San Andreas includes all the same cities from GTA SA and this time they have all became ab it bigger as well as much more detailed.
•Gang turf wars are back. This time not only the general gang are in charge but different sets such as57th Ballas or the Eastside Azteca. They have their own graffiti. You can tag up stuff with custom sprays now too.

If you read and post the major spoilers, always mark them as such. I don't want to come into this thread and see the ending has been posted. I had LA Noire and Red Dead Redemption spoiled for me because of that, I don't want that happening with GTA V.

Assuming the last part in the spoilers is true, I hope they make it more of a side mission/mini-game like in the GTA IV episodes than a primary thing in SA.

[Kane Knight]

what

You're not retarded, Fignuts lite.

[RoXer]

what?

[G]

he said you're not retarded, fignuts lite. can't you fucking read

[Kane Knight]

I think he can't hear. That's the problem.

[El Fangel]

The city in GTAIV always looked the same no matter where I went. I know its based on NYC, but still.

[Kane Knight]

Well, to be fair, New York lacks any discernible landmarks or variations in architecture.

[Mr. C]

64 multiplayer PC and dedicated server? I call BS.

[Kane Knight]

Why is that a spoiler, true or not.

[El Fangel]

I was just playing GTA4 and I parked a brown car and now I can't find it anywheres. They really need one of those remotes that honks the horn.

[G]

64 multiplayer PC and dedicated server? I call BS.

really wish i didn't read that till i played the game

[El Fangel]

Leak I just read says its a continuation of GTA: SA. Where CJ goes back to Liberty City to tie up loose ends he had when he came back to Los Santos.

[Tommy Gunn]

If Vice City gets skipped for San Andreas I'll be one unhappy 80s kid.

[FearedSanctity]

No way on the continuation rumor. Rockstar has said a thousand times they're done with the GTAIII continuity. Believe they've also said they're done with Liberty City, at least for a while. So that rumor goes against everything

And I can't remember where I read it, but they justified skipping over Vice City pretty well. If Rockstar's goal is to keep the setting modern day, a modern day San Andreas stands to be waaaaaaaaay more interesting than a modern day Vice City