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Hey Yianni, I brought my Greek flag to uni with me, to hang out the window, but now I am back home for a few days so I can't do it, nevertheless I am supporting your boys tonight.
Rob Ban Fan
02-09-2005, 01:08 PM
Greece must win their World Cup qualifier in Athens against Denmark tonight. COME ON HELLAS.
<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">Chalky :love:
is he gonna play, or be on the bench? :(</font>
http://www.premierleague.com/en/images/Players_Portsmouth/chalkias184x373.jpg
El Capitano Gatisto
02-09-2005, 05:22 PM
I'm fairly sure Sven has some serious thing going on with Beckham behind the scenes, thats the only reason I can see for him still being there. That midfield is something else.
Beckham is having a good season and has been England's inspiration in the past. Form is temporary, class is permanent, and Beckham's international class isn't in doubt. I'd have replaced him at Euro 2004 when he was looking unfit and jaded, but he's got to be given every chance to find his form for England again.
People think all you have to do is stick an in-form Premiership player in a national team and he'll suddenly be able to cope with international football. Look at the state of Wright-Phillips tonight against a second string Holland side: he was shit, from what I saw.
Mind you, I was watching the Ireland game mainly. Andy Reid was brilliant, and Duff tortured them. I'm confident for the games against Israel. If we can get 6 points out of those, I'm certain we'll qualify. I'd be happy enough with 4, though. Israel will be tricky to play out there. At home, I fancy us against any side in the world.
The quality of Duff's crossing is something else. No tricks like Ronaldo kept trying all night, just worms past defenders and sticks in fantastic crosses. Robbie Keane should really have notched a goal. Good win, though, in a pretty well contested game.
Brian Keff plays friendlies just right. He sticks with his first choice side and bloods one or two players who are on the fringes of the 11, without fucking the system around or plugging anyone into a position they don't play. He made 4 or 5 changes tonight without the shape changing at all, really.
Sven just seems to pay lip service to Premiership form by handing out caps to every Tom, Dick and Player of the Month. Also, Owen Hargreaves is fucking terrible.
aenima
02-09-2005, 07:52 PM
Wright-Phillips wasn't that bad overall. Made a couple of jinking runs. There were worse players on the pitch.
Andy Jonhson, for one. England have four better strikers, there's no real point in playing him unless we're riddled with injuries. Especially on the right, where he looked like Christian Bassedas' mongy nan. I'm sure Sven only brought him on there because he realised he wasn't even going to get a chance up front and felt sorry for him.
yianni
02-09-2005, 10:06 PM
Hey Yianni, I brought my Greek flag to uni with me, to hang out the window, but now I am back home for a few days so I can't do it, nevertheless I am supporting your boys tonight.Well they won. Ole ole ole ole Hellas Hellas :love: :D
The goals were scored in the first half by KING THEO ZAGORAKIS (first international goal) and a penalty from Angelos Basinas. Poor defending and lack of communication up the back from Nikopolidis gifted Denmark a goal in first half injury time and the 2-1 scoreline remained for the rest of the game. From the highlights we were absolutely outstanding in the first half and should have buried Denmark but were a bit sloppy in the second period and had to rely on some decent saves by Nikopolidis to grind out the win.
The win promotes us to 2nd in Group 2, with a game in hand over Ukraine who are in first place. They had a 0-2 win over Albania and are 6 points ahead of Greece now. The advantage we have is that we have already played them away from home and we managed with a decent result, a 1-1 draw having come from a goal down. So we have Ukraine at home for the return fixture and if we win that game we'll close them up. Next game up for Greece is next month away to Georgia then a home game against Albania. We really (and must) win these games convincingly and set ourselves up to finish at the very least in 2nd spot. Still, we have yet to play Denmark and Turkey away so it will be difficult.
Just quietly, recently whenever we've had Collina as the referee we've always won (Euro 2004, Denmark game). Good omen, UEFA should keep him reffing our games for the rest of the campaign. :lol:
yianni
02-09-2005, 10:07 PM
Chalky :love:
is he gonna play, or be on the bench? :(
http://www.premierleague.com/en/images/Players_Portsmouth/chalkias184x373.jpg
Naw I think he was on the bench. Nikopolidis is first choice keeper, though I heard he was a bit clumsy and his bugger-up was the result of Denmark's goal to pull them back to 2-1. Luckily we held on for the important win.
Wengerland
02-10-2005, 05:33 AM
Wright-Phillips wasn't that great really, but he was worth the chance. Pretty annoyed at Sven for playing Johnson out of position though, but, again, he was worth a game given his form. Pretty dull game in all, only positives were Wes Brown and Carragher at the back.
Wengerland
02-10-2005, 05:34 AM
Well they won. Ole ole ole ole Hellas Hellas :love: :D
The goals were scored in the first half by KING THEO ZAGORAKIS (first international goal)
YES :love: :heart:
Fungry
02-10-2005, 07:23 AM
"From the highlights we were absolutely outstanding in the first half and should have buried Denmark but were a bit sloppy in the second period and had to rely on some decent saves by Nikopolidis to grind out the win."
wow yanni, you should get a life dude. how much time you spend on that article? enjoy writing blocks of shit that no one will read? talk about something interesting, like porn if you want interest.
--> Dickhead <--
toxic rooster
02-10-2005, 08:11 AM
Don't be shit on purpose.
Rob Ban Fan
02-10-2005, 08:31 AM
<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">I agree with ECG in the way that I don't think Sven should just chuck out England caps to anyone. Its embarassing to think that fat fuck Michael Ricketts has an England cap.
I think Shaun Wright-Phillips is good enough, he'll give us pace and has been scoring in the premiership this season and last season. He was poor yesterday but everyone knows he can do better than that.
Im not so sure about Andy Johnson or Stewart Downing though</font>
Wengerland
02-10-2005, 09:19 AM
I dunno, if you don't try different players then you'll never know, and that's a plus point for having friendlies. It's a win-win thing really, as the players (eg Andy Johnson) form is good then they deservedly win a call up, then if they play well everything's fine, if not then at least the national coach would have learned that the player in question is not up to international standard.
Cactus Sid
02-10-2005, 09:24 AM
At the end of the day, the only judgement you can make on both of them is from 30 minutes of football.
Johnson was played out of position. He's not Bellamy (bad example I know) who has pace and can cross a ball, Johnson is an out and out striker and he should've played there.
From what I've seen, Downing hardly touched the ball, and in 30 minutes of an incredibly poor, slow paced match, he was hardly gonna have the chance to shine.
Not really sure about the match as a whole as I was watching Ireland as well.
Wengerland
02-10-2005, 09:34 AM
Did Alan Maybury get on for Ireland? :cool:
El Capitano Gatisto
02-10-2005, 10:09 AM
I dunno, if you don't try different players then you'll never know, and that's a plus point for having friendlies. It's a win-win thing really, as the players (eg Andy Johnson) form is good then they deservedly win a call up, then if they play well everything's fine, if not then at least the national coach would have learned that the player in question is not up to international standard.
There's no point trying different players unless you try to fit them into the system you intend to use for competitive games, with the players you intend to use.
Like I said about Brian Kerr: he gives other players a chance, players who are pushing for a place in the line up or who are young and need experience, but he doesn't fuck up his system. The players play in their best positions and the positions they would take in a competitive game.
It means you don't end up with 8 or 9 lads who don't know each other, playing for half an hour out of position, with nothing learned about them or their ability at international level, or about the system as a whole.
Sven just uses it as a chance to throw out caps, not realistically look at players who are going to do the business.
El Capitano Gatisto
02-10-2005, 10:10 AM
Did Alan Maybury get on for Ireland? :cool:
No. I don't expect he'll figure much when Finnan and Carr are fit. Ian Harte may get back into the fold too, so that might limit his opportunities altogether.
Wengerland
02-10-2005, 10:56 AM
There's no point trying different players unless you try to fit them into the system you intend to use for competitive games, with the players you intend to use.
Like I said about Brian Kerr: he gives other players a chance, players who are pushing for a place in the line up or who are young and need experience, but he doesn't fuck up his system. The players play in their best positions and the positions they would take in a competitive game.
It means you don't end up with 8 or 9 lads who don't know each other, playing for half an hour out of position, with nothing learned about them or their ability at international level, or about the system as a whole.
Sven just uses it as a chance to throw out caps, not realistically look at players who are going to do the business.
Yeah i agree with that, don't get me wrong or anything, i wasn't defending the decision to play Johnson out of position but i just feel he deserved his chance, given the number of goals he's scored for a struggling side. I reckon Sven only used that system to keep the SWP fans happy as he could play on the right, and to keep Beckham in, i don't expect him to use anything other than 4-4-2 in competitive games, so his mistake really.
Johnson may not be in the same league as Owen as a forward, but it's taking a look to see how he copes incase Owen is injured or something.Then again you can just look at Everton, sold their best player last summer but it's worked out for the good of the team and if Johnson or whoever helps the team better than Owen, regardless of who's better, then that is my main concern.
But yeah, Sven knows he's not going to drop Owen, Rooney, Beckham e.t.c, so friendlies may aswell be used to give potential left midfielders 90 minutes to stake a claim from an England point of view, everything else apart from the central defensive pairing is done.
El Capitano Gatisto
02-10-2005, 11:13 AM
Sven has made England friendlies meaningless. They weren't always like that, and other nations take them seriously as warm-up and preparation games.
Sven will have learned nothing about Andy Johnson out on the right wing.
Danny Electric
02-10-2005, 11:30 AM
Johnson and Downing deserved their call-ups. Both have been outstanding for a while. Downing since he broke into the Boro' line up and Johnson for the last two seasons. The fact that Johnson has scored 15 goals in a Crystal Palace team fighting not to get relegated is outstanding.
Sven once again showed that he is a dick, fair play to Marco Van Basten for trying new players in friendlies and giving them a proper run out. Johnson and Downing should have been given more time on the pitch and Johnson was played out of position when he came on. You could see the frustration on his face towards the end. Just as long as crappy Vassel isn't given another call-up then all is well.
Danny Electric
02-10-2005, 11:31 AM
Sven has made England friendlies meaningless. They weren't always like that, and other nations take them seriously as warm-up and preparation games.
Sven will have learned nothing about Andy Johnson out on the right wing.
:y:
Oxstar
02-10-2005, 12:34 PM
Sven has totally pissed me off, actually seeing a Palace player play for England and he gets played out of position. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!
El Capitano Gatisto
02-10-2005, 01:34 PM
Darius Vassell hasn't been the same since he became lead singer of Bloc Party.
Well they won. Ole ole ole ole Hellas Hellas :love: :D
The goals were scored in the first half by KING THEO ZAGORAKIS (first international goal) and a penalty from Angelos Basinas. Poor defending and lack of communication up the back from Nikopolidis gifted Denmark a goal in first half injury time and the 2-1 scoreline remained for the rest of the game. From the highlights we were absolutely outstanding in the first half and should have buried Denmark but were a bit sloppy in the second period and had to rely on some decent saves by Nikopolidis to grind out the win.
The win promotes us to 2nd in Group 2, with a game in hand over Ukraine who are in first place. They had a 0-2 win over Albania and are 6 points ahead of Greece now. The advantage we have is that we have already played them away from home and we managed with a decent result, a 1-1 draw having come from a goal down. So we have Ukraine at home for the return fixture and if we win that game we'll close them up. Next game up for Greece is next month away to Georgia then a home game against Albania. We really (and must) win these games convincingly and set ourselves up to finish at the very least in 2nd spot. Still, we have yet to play Denmark and Turkey away so it will be difficult.
Jesus shitting christ, I'm well behind with the times, I have no idea whats going on really. Group seems pretty tough, I'd have said Denmark, Turkey and you lot would be fighting it out, supruisd Ukraine are there. Looks like it's gunna be hard to get through, maybe I should burn my Greek flag if you are going ot piss it all up.
Hargreaves is shit, Wright Phillip's played a shocker, Beckham needs to fucking listen to me and square some fre kicks for Lamps, Rooney or Gerrard to smash, the only one that went over the wall was weak.
Duff is the man, once the Drog is back, everyone will realise that all we need if the two of them, Duff crosses it, Drog outpowers the shit out of the defenders, goal.
El Capitano Gatisto
02-10-2005, 01:45 PM
Duff destroyed the Portuguese last night. I fucking love him. Such a little genius tramp.
Also, he raked his studs down the back of Ronaldo's calf and trod on his heel. Got a yellow card for it ahahahahaha. First time I have ever seen Duff do something like that.
Danny Electric
02-10-2005, 01:47 PM
Darius Vassell hasn't been the same since he became lead singer of Bloc Party.
:D
Yeah Duff is yet to be a bad ass for Chelsea, the little whiney shit spends most of his time diving, bithcing to the ref or lino, or on the floor. I guess he takes more pride when playing for Ireland.
El Capitano Gatisto
02-10-2005, 01:54 PM
He dives a fair bit for Ireland too. Well, it's not diving, as such, he gets fouled but he hits the deck to make sure he gets the free kick. Like the defender will come into the back of him with a shoulder, and Duff will tumble when he probably could have stayed up. It takes pressure off our defenders if we can get it up to him, and he can do that.
My mate broke out his video of Ireland's WC 2002 the other week. Duff absolutely destroyed Germany in the group game. Should have beaten them by 3 or 4 goals, but Duff didn't get many goals back then. His finishing has gotten better over the past 2 or 3 seasons.
Yeah I loved that game, Robbie Keane was the man, that was one of my favourite games of the tournament.
Duff didn't dive last season, Robben has been a bad influence in that respect, but I swear Duff never used to get to the corner of the box, cut inside and curl a shot in at the far post until Robben arrived. If he gets injured now we really are fucked.
Also, you still confident Chelsea will win the league?
El Capitano Gatisto
02-10-2005, 02:01 PM
Yeah, of course. Ask me again on Saturday afternoon, though. The Everton game will be tough as fuck. I think Everton may try to play a Blackburn game and turn it into a fight, only they have the strikers to back it up. Can't see Eidur Gudjohnsen being up for it if the Everton defenders bully him, on the other hand I think Beattie and Bent will give Chelsea problems.
You do miss Drogba and Robben big time. Chelsea's side without those 2 is really, really workman-like, aside from Duff and Gudjohnsen (who doesn't do any work at all).
I think if Chelsea win this weekend, it's theirs, definitely. I can see them dropping points, though.
On the other hand, I can see United dropping points at City.
EIDUR IS SHIT, I have said that since I first signed up to TPWW, lazy, uninterested waste of space, he honestly doesnt give a fuck about anything, he is stupidly lazy, apparently his wife has left him and pissed of to Iceland with his kids too.
United will drop at least two points before the end of the season, but didnt they go from Christmas two seasons ago untill the end of the season without losing.
Didn't City get a draw at OT? United will be big time up for it, and James's made some great saves over us, so he is bound to make the mother of all fuck ups against United.
El Capitano Gatisto
02-10-2005, 02:17 PM
Richard Dunne has been MoM against Chelsea, Manchester United and Arsenal this season. He has been a revelation for City. At Old Trafford he was a colossus, and for once that is in a footballing sense, not in girth or beer belly.
City will be up for it too. I think they're a tricky side. They've been getting the better of United over the past couple of seasons, and I can see them doing it again.
Thing is, if after this weekend the gap comes down to 6 or 7 points, I think it's really, really on. United know they can take 3 off Chelsea at Old Trafford, and if Chelsea even draw a couple of games in a row, I think it will affect them. There's not too many winners at Chelsea, apart from Mourinho. He has instilled confidence in them, but that kind of confidence can be fragile when tested by seasoned winners like Manchester United.
Roy Keane is becoming the best player in the country again.
The City fans love him, they sung their song for him quite often. City might be up for it, but they will still get shat on, their team cannot match United's, Chelsea never really seemed up for it. If United play Giggs, KEane, Scholes and ROnaldo across the midfield and Rooney with whoever up front, they will win, City aren't very good at attacking, and Fowler is a pasty, or colossus in the other sense of the word.
For fuck sakes Gatesy, I have been telling you for months we have some hard games, like United at OT and the Arse at home, why the feck have you now only mentioned it. And yeah we don't really have too many winners I suppose, just gotta rely largely on Cech, JT, Lampard, Makelele, Robben and Duff, like we have done all season.
Keane has been great since they beat Liverpool last month.
El Capitano Gatisto
02-10-2005, 03:04 PM
I know, but you're just being pessimistic. I couldn't see United putting together this sort of run, to be honest. I didn't think they'd go to Highbury and Anfield and get 6 points, especially after the Spurs and Exeter games.
There's too much for United to do, but it could still run close. I dunno, it's interesting, but not exciting just yet. You never can write off Manchester United, but people keep doing it. I still feel United have the best first 11 in the country, but Mourinho has that Chelsea team organised as fuck, and Cech is magnificent.
Cactus Sid
02-10-2005, 03:09 PM
I've got United down to lose and Chelsea down to win this weekend, but the title overall to go down to the last day, Chelsea just edging it out, maybe on goal difference.
we have the geordies away on the last day of the season, thats a bitch, as are so many of our games to come.
I have always said until United are mathematically out of it I won't rule them out, and I still wont.
Y2Ant
02-10-2005, 04:35 PM
Also, he raked his studs down the back of Ronaldo's calf and trod on his heel. Got a yellow card for it ahahahahaha. First time I have ever seen Duff do something like that.
:love: :love: :love:
Mr. Monday Morning
02-10-2005, 04:47 PM
Remaining fixtures:
Chelsea
12-Feb-05 A Everton
26-Feb-05 H West Bromwich Albion
05-Mar-05 A Norwich City
19-Mar-05 H Crystal Palace
02-Apr-05 A Southampton
09-Apr-05 H Birmingham City
16-Apr-05 A Manchester United
20-Apr-05 H Arsenal
23-Apr-05 H Fulham
30-Apr-05 A Bolton Wanderers
07-May-05 H Charlton Athletic
14-May-05 A Newcastle United
Man U
13-Feb-05 A Manchester City
26-Feb-05 H Portsmouth
05-Mar-05 A Crystal Palace
19-Mar-05 H Fulham
02-Apr-05 H Blackburn Rovers
09-Apr-05 A Norwich City
16-Apr-05 H Chelsea
20-Apr-05 A Everton
23-Apr-05 H Newcastle United
30-Apr-05 A Charlton Athletic
07-May-05 H West Bromwich Albion
14-May-05 A Southampton
tbh it could come down to the last game but I don't think it will.
Chelsea - The obvious ones are Man U, Arsenal, Everton, but also don't forget Bolton gave them probs and they've come into a bit of form again, though whether it'll last I don't know.
I would think Man U will drop points somewhere in there, even if they do steamroller most of them Everton and Charlton away aren't easy by any means.
El Capitano Gatisto
02-10-2005, 04:54 PM
United do have the much easier run-in, to be honest. Chelsea need to start seriously dropping points right now, though, and United can't afford to drop any until they're within sniffing distance at least.
If Cactus Sid was right, United lose and Chelsea win this weekend, there's no way it'd go to the last game. Arsenal would probably take 2nd place back and it'd be pretty much over.
Jose Antonio Reyes has been involved in a radio hoax in Spain, where he was tricked into admitting his desire to join Real Madrid.
Spanish station Cope Radio pulled off the amazing hoax, by claiming to be Real' sporting director Emilio Butragueno.
Cope Radio contacted Reyes' agent, who in turn informed the Arsenal man to speak to the pranksters claiming to be the Madrid chief.
During the conversation, Reyes admitted to life being 'not great' at Arsenal - confirming growing rumours that he is not settled in North London.
Reyes later went on to say that he would be happy to join Real and that he had always dreamed of playing for Real Madrid.
The Spanish giants had just denied reports of a swap deal involving Michael Owen moving to Arsenal in order to sign Reyes.
The former Sevilla man had himself said that he was concentrating on winning things at Highbury, despite being flattered with Real's interest.
This latest stunt is sure to anger all parties, and Reyes is thought to be considering legal action against the hoaxers.
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ahaaa what a twat.
MoRcHeEbA
02-10-2005, 05:57 PM
does Northern Ireland have like the worst soccer team ever? they lost to Canada yesterday so im curious.
El Capitano Gatisto
02-10-2005, 05:58 PM
Yes.
You all dissapoint me, I have been listing our hard run in for months, and NOW you pay attention, we have to fecking travel to FOUR hard away grounds and have a hard home match, far from over, far from over.
Y2Ant
02-10-2005, 08:56 PM
United's run is so fucking easy, I see why you are so worried now :o
yianni
02-10-2005, 09:41 PM
"From the highlights we were absolutely outstanding in the first half and should have buried Denmark but were a bit sloppy in the second period and had to rely on some decent saves by Nikopolidis to grind out the win."
wow yanni, you should get a life dude. how much time you spend on that article? enjoy writing blocks of shit that no one will read? talk about something interesting, like porn if you want interest.
--> Dickhead <--
You should stop going through a thread 70 pages long to find one post by me to make fun of.
Also, it's not an article, I wrote that myself from what I'd seen on TV.
Also, my name is yianni not yanni.
Fucking dickhead.
Fungry
02-10-2005, 10:34 PM
"Also, it's not an article, I wrote that myself from what I'd seen on TV."
that's my point asshole, you wrote a huge longwinded piece of shit that's uninformed and boring. Go fuck ureself, yianni yanni whatever, same bullshit wop sounding name to me.
and now Morcheeba, Ireland don't have the worst soccer team, they and Serbia rule!
burn motherfucker burn
Fungry
02-10-2005, 10:41 PM
oh and for yor info mediterranean olivesuckin' prick, I post in lots of forums, i was just observein' here when i saw you and people like you, which made me angry, so you shouldnt take my criticism lightly,
tool
yianni
02-10-2005, 11:05 PM
:roll:
Heyman
02-10-2005, 11:09 PM
CAnada will win the World Cup one day.
Now that NHL hockey no longer exists, more Canadians will focus on soccer.
BCWWF
02-10-2005, 11:46 PM
I said that the United States has a legitimate chance to win the World Cup in the next 20 years and all the Irish posters started hating on me :lol:
toxic rooster
02-10-2005, 11:52 PM
you wrote a huge longwinded piece of shit
It probably took like 3 minutes to type.
The Mask
02-11-2005, 12:44 AM
Ours is easier, but unlike most other teams, we generally play terrible against smaller clubs. When you see how we hammer teams like Arsenal and Liverpool on our day, and then go and make a meal of a match at some place like Pompey where we should be winning every time, it's a bit unnerving.
Hopefully knowing what's at stake is going to have the players digging in. I think we have a chance once smith gets back to fitness. The attitude of him, Heinze, Keane and Rooney are probably going to be what decides this for us.
I'm impressed with our team though, as a whole, and we seem to be weeding out the shit finally, so hopefully if not this season, something big is on the cards next.
We have the added shit of Glazer though, so it's hard to tell.
Mr. Monday Morning
02-11-2005, 05:27 AM
You all dissapoint me, I have been listing our hard run in for months, and NOW you pay attention, we have to fecking travel to FOUR hard away grounds and have a hard home match, far from over, far from over.
We've all learned to ignore you :D
does Northern Ireland have like the worst soccer team ever? they lost to Canada yesterday so im curious.
Yeah their pretty terrible not like the Republic http://tpww.net/forums/images/smilies/cool.gif they set either a world or a European record for longest without a goal last year think it was 12 games or something.
I said that the United States has a legitimate chance to win the World Cup in the next 20 years and all the Irish posters started hating on me :lol:
I said the same thing around 1994. I don't believe it for a second now though. They'll have talented players but they'll never do it. If England can't then USA have no chance.
El Capitano Gatisto
02-12-2005, 07:56 AM
Fuck. Well done Beattie, you stupid fat dickhead. So much for a tough game for Chelsea.
Cactus Sid
02-12-2005, 08:23 AM
Fuck. Well done Beattie, you stupid fat dickhead. So much for a tough game for Chelsea.
Everton are defending pretty well, and I can see this pitch causing a few problems for the Chelsea players.
Tiago is utter wank.
Cactus Sid
02-12-2005, 08:28 AM
Also, I'd put money on Tim Cahill getting sent off, unless he gets taken off first.
El Capitano Gatisto
02-12-2005, 08:38 AM
If Beattie had stayed on the pitch, Everton would have a great chance of winning this game. As it stands, Everton will probably have to battle out a draw. They have no threat going forward now, no support for Bent.
William Gallas is the fucking man, though. Every time I have seen Chelsea this season, he has been magnificent. It's like having a Mikael Silvestre (pace, strength, agility) except with the added bonus of a footballing brain and a keen sense of defensive awareness.
John Terry gets all the praise at Chelsea, and he has had a great season, but for me Gallas is the main man in that defence. He does his own job well, and clears up everything that Terry gets caught flat-footed on. He's always there or there-abouts when a ball manages to get behind them. Great defender.
aenima
02-12-2005, 08:39 AM
I couldn't really care less about this match. If Everton win United are bound to slip up against City.
I love Beattie's breasts, though. I bet his bird loves playing with those wobbly sacks of fat.
Tiago is fucking useless, how he thinks he can shoot is beyond me, Joey Cole :love: keep going, your the only one looking like doing any damage.
This pitch is horrendous, on the plus side we are attakcing the half which isn't as bad, but on the bad side we are defending the side that is shit, and Everton must be used to the pitch so I guess they should be abke to capitalise on it.
45 minutes though is enough for us to get settled in really, come on Jose, get that spastic Tiago off the pitch. After 75 minutes, if it's 0-0, I say we go MArtin Jol style and stick out big 26 up front to try and nab a goal, Gudjohnsen should some off for Carvalho is it's still 0-0 then.
And BEattie really didnt have a reason to do that, he fucked things up for no reason at all, stupid fat cunt.
If Beattie had stayed on the pitch, Everton would have a great chance of winning this game. As it stands, Everton will probably have to battle out a draw. They have no threat going forward now, no support for Bent.
William Gallas is the fucking man, though. Every time I have seen Chelsea this season, he has been magnificent. It's like having a Mikael Silvestre (pace, strength, agility) except with the added bonus of a footballing brain and a keen sense of defensive awareness.
John Terry gets all the praise at Chelsea, and he has had a great season, but for me Gallas is the main man in that defence. He does his own job well, and clears up everything that Terry gets caught flat-footed on. He's always there or there-abouts when a ball manages to get behind them. Great defender.
John Terry gets all the praise because of the amount of arial balls he wins, and the way he a;ways jumps in front of shots, you watch, Terry will blocka hard shot (prolly from Carsley), it might hit Terry's hand, but he will block it.
And yeah without Beattie Everton don't look like scoring, it's got 0-0 written all over it.
Cactus Sid
02-12-2005, 09:17 AM
Fu</>cking hell, he didn't miss :eek:
Cactus Sid
02-12-2005, 09:17 AM
Great play by Gallas there.
El Capitano Gatisto
02-12-2005, 09:20 AM
John Terry gets all the praise because of the amount of arial balls he wins, and the way he a;ways jumps in front of shots, you watch, Terry will blocka hard shot (prolly from Carsley), it might hit Terry's hand, but he will block it.
A defender is supposed to win aerial balls and block shots. That is his job.
But, for fuck's sake, the commentators go overboard on Terry. Like earlier, an aimless ball forward, shite pass by Everton, Terry basically trots over and clears it, and Parry goes off on one about what a fantastic piece of defending it is and how great Terry has been all season.
Don't get me wrong, Terry has had a great season and is a good defender in that style, but it's ridiculous how the media cream themselves over him.
Game's over now.
aenima
02-12-2005, 09:37 AM
You dirty Man United supporter, you're worse than Simon.
ahahaha great play by Gallas, there. It was a throwback to my old school days, when all the spastics and gingers would play.
A defender is supposed to win aerial balls and block shots. That is his job.
But, for fuck's sake, the commentators go overboard on Terry. Like earlier, an aimless ball forward, shite pass by Everton, Terry basically trots over and clears it, and Parry goes off on one about what a fantastic piece of defending it is and how great Terry has been all season.
Don't get me wrong, Terry has had a great season and is a good defender in that style, but it's ridiculous how the media cream themselves over him.
Game's over now.
The point is that Terry does it more then other players, and thats why he gets the credit, he does the more memorable things in the match. Like today, Gallas will get more credit as he had a big hand in the goal and stopped that Bent shot.
And Terry is English, is the man, and you are just jealous that you'll never be a future England captain.
What the fuck is the matter with these people on Sky? What retards, MotD picked it up after a few games, and only NOW have Sky realised the messages the players give each other.
El Capitano Gatisto
02-12-2005, 10:05 AM
Terry doesn't do it more than other players.
It is pretty much because he is English. Big Dickie Dunne should be Player of the Season. Look at him. He's a big fat bastard, but with a lot of it coming down to his form, Man City have the 3rd best defensive record in the Premiership. He's been MoM against Chelsea, Manchester United and Arsenal during the season, and has helped City keep clean sheets twice against Chelsea and once against Manchester United.
I love him. I don't see what makes Terry so much better, since they are the same kind of player really. The praise Ledley King gets makes me even more furious, though, considering how crap Spurs are.
Anyway, back to Gallas: he's great. Been consistently one of the best defenders in the Premiership since he joined Chelsea. I'm not surprised Wenger tapped him up a couple of seasons back, he'd make them unbeatable.
aenima
02-12-2005, 10:19 AM
Stop going on about Richard Dunne. I prefer it when you spunk over the good Irish players, like like Keano or Andy O'Brien, with his enormous nose.
Looks like a Mental Tim day, by the way. He's been talking about how shit Everton are and how much he hates them. If Liverpool lose to Birmingham today he's going to go bonkers.
Gallas likes a little handball every now and then, thats his main problem, they didn't show it Vs Pompey at the Bridge, but I could see it from my seat, that the Yak was waiting for the ball to drop, it was about in like with his chest and was gunna smash it when it dropped, and Gallas came running in and handled it out the way then hoofed it up the pitch, no joke, absolutley unbelievable that he even did it, the refs view was obstructed so he got away with it.
Terry does get more praise for being English, much like Ferdinand really, yet you still love him. But Terry has more affect and influence on how well we defend then billy boy, I'd sooner lose Gallas then Terry.
Liam O'Brien, Andy O'Brien
Any any any O'Brien
who put the ball in the Mackems net?
O'Brien, O'Brien
Wengerland
02-12-2005, 11:00 AM
Yeah Beattie's a dick.
2-0 down at Ipswich, no surprise really, but de Vries' first start and he scores an own goal :( Same thing happened to Nalis at Chelsea last year.
They all learnt off the master (I.E SINCLAIR)
Wengerland
02-12-2005, 11:57 AM
Good old mad Frank, he's probably got 3 times as many own goals as he's scored at the right end in his career.
Leicester lost 2-1, which wasn't too bad considering we were battered 6-1 there 2 seasons ago. Think that's pretty much killed off any lingering play off hopes though, future looks bright though.
Cactus Sid
02-12-2005, 12:13 PM
2-0 against the brum :(
Wengerland
02-12-2005, 12:27 PM
Bruno and Muzzy :love:
Heskey was meant to have gone down easily for the penalty though, doesn't sound like him :shifty:
El Capitano Gatisto
02-12-2005, 12:46 PM
Stop going on about Richard Dunne. I prefer it when you spunk over the good Irish players, like like Keano or Andy O'Brien, with his enormous nose.
Looks like a Mental Tim day, by the way. He's been talking about how shit Everton are and how much he hates them. If Liverpool lose to Birmingham today he's going to go bonkers.
Richard Dunne is far better than Andy O'Brien. Dunne always had the potential to be an excellent defender, he just loved the smokes, pints and kebabs far too much.
I remember back when he was really fat, he played for us against Holland away, and put in a stellar performance. He'll force his way past big nose into the Irish 11, and will dominate everyone with his 16 stones of pure brilliance.
In all seriousness, he has genuinely been one of the best defenders in the Premiership this season.
Spurs are really fucking shit.
El Capitano Gatisto
02-12-2005, 12:48 PM
Terry does get more praise for being English, much like Ferdinand really, yet you still love him. But Terry has more affect and influence on how well we defend then billy boy, I'd sooner lose Gallas then Terry.
I love Ferdinand because he's fucking brilliant. The whole idea of Terry being anywhere near as good as Rio Ferdinand is one of the most laughable and ridiculous arguements that any football fan could come up with.
The difference is that the whole world recognises Rio Ferdinand's talent, whereas we all realise Terry is a big hoofer who gets his head to the ball but not much else.
Ferdinand could play anywhere on the pitch and still be MoM. Even in goals, I bet.
Cactus Sid
02-12-2005, 01:04 PM
Robinson is doing the work of 5 men at the moment.
Danny Electric
02-12-2005, 01:14 PM
Gutted for Hoult.
Wengerland
02-12-2005, 01:19 PM
Seen West Brom at Fulham and the first half of this game and they've been by far the better side in both games but manage to shoot themselves in the foot.
The difference is that the whole world recognises Rio Ferdinand's talent, whereas we all realise Terry is a big hoofer who gets his head to the ball but not much else.
Ferdinand could play anywhere on the pitch and still be MoM. Even in goals, I bet.
Your a fucking idiot if you really believe that, players rarley get the better of Terry, he is a magnificent tackler and when he plays alongside that spastic Wayne Bridge, it's not hard to do what he does. People rarely get the better of him, and if Opta Stats had the stats for most amount of shots blocked by an outfield player, I bet he'd shit all over the rest of the people in the table.
HE does everything so well, he doesn't panic, he only hoofs it when he doesn't have many options, he often tries to play a ball down the flank to Duff or Robben, or just squares it to Bridge, hoofing it is rare.
El Capitano Gatisto
02-12-2005, 01:33 PM
I'm glad he blocks so many shots and remains so calm, but I never said he wasn't a good player, I just maintain he is in no way the best defender in the Premiership, or even world class. Undeniably his style is that of a keep it simple defender, just get a knee or an ankle or an ear to it and get the ball away anywhere.
That's fine, but I don't see how he's supposed to be leagues ahead of the like of Gareth Southgate at Middlesbrough, who makes plenty of vital tackles and interceptions.
Gallas is the main man for me. He's always there when there is danger. Big John gets caught flat-footed or misjudges the flight of the ball, and William is sprinting back to clear up the mess. A pure athlete and a wonderful footballer.
Danny Electric
02-12-2005, 01:42 PM
Good goal by Defoe.
Gallas has made more mistkes this seson, but thats when he plays at left back, Terry could be a wee bit faster but thats his only flaw.
And your reply made no sense as you said all Terry does is hoofs the ball, gts his head to the ball and nothing else, I was pointingout the other stuff he does.
Also, What a goal from Jermaine Defoe
Terry is good but he is well overrated. You'd think he is the second coming the way people speak about him.
Went to see QPR vs. Preston today. Worst game I have ever seen live and I have seen more than a few Wimbledon and Dundee United bores.
El Capitano Gatisto
02-12-2005, 01:53 PM
I don't know, Dazz, any time I have seen Chelsea this season I see Terry get constantly get caught out by balls in behind him. Often Gallas cleans it up for him with his pace. Nothing comes of it, because he's there to sweep up, or Cech will be invariably in the right place to save it.
One example where it worked for the opposition was Manchester United in the 2nd leg of the Carling Cup semi: ball over the top, Terry caught flat footed and ball-watching against Giggs. Gallas couldn't get across to cover in time and Giggs' finish gave Cech no chance.
Gallas doesn't get nearly enough credit.
Wayne Bridge is crap, though.
Wayne Bridge is fucking horse shit, if ever you are feeling bored, go to www.cfc-net.co.uk and tell those mother fuckers that, I have spent 'nuff time dissin Bridge and no one fucking backs me up on there, people don't seem to realise that he is incapable of controlling a ball or using his right foot.
I knew you'd use that example, as its the only time Terry has been caught out this season, if you really want to point out players flaws, then Ferdinand should have prevented our first goal in the game, Drogba had the ball, Neville was defending, and Rio basically stood behind him, so no matter what Drogba did, Rio would be inneffective, and the ball was squared to Franky for a simple finish. Had Ferdinand have been better positioned he could well have prevented it.
I think Gallas could have done better for their goal, and Terry didn't do much wrong, it was just fucking class from Ryan Giggs. Chelsea fans give Gallas nuff credit. Like with Makelele, you won't find a Chelsea fan who doesn't appreciate how much he does.
El Capitano Gatisto
02-12-2005, 10:22 PM
Silvestre was at fault for that goal. Rio was covering the near post, Keane had tracked back to cover the edge of the box, Heinze was covering the far post and Silvestre was fast asleep. He saw Lampard trot in behind Keane and did nothing.
Rio had to cover Neville in case Drogba got in behind him.
That's why I think Silvestre is shite. He's constantly caught napping at the back. He was awful in that match, caught ball-watching constantly. Rio does well despite him.
El Capitano Gatisto
02-12-2005, 10:26 PM
Oh yeah, that example was one where the opposition scored from it. That's why I brought it up. There were a few cases of Terry being caught flat-footed against Blackburn, but their lack of quality and support up front meant nothing was going to happen.
Samuel E'too with his pace will cause Terry a few problems. Barca will certainly tell him to pull onto Terry's shoulder and burn him from balls through by Ronaldinho.
Your heroes (Gallas and Carvalho) will be there to save him though.
And watch the goal again, Ferdinand was shockingly positioned, Drogba would have had to nutmeg Neville for Rio to do anything, it really looked like he was hiding behind Neville.
diothoir
02-13-2005, 03:13 AM
LEEDS :heart:
2 wins in a row. Just a shame we're playing Wigan away next and will get our arses handed to us. :(
3-1 to United is my guess, Ronaldo, Scholes and Rooney to score the goals.
El Capitano Gatisto
02-13-2005, 07:30 AM
Your heroes (Gallas and Carvalho) will be there to save him though.
And watch the goal again, Ferdinand was shockingly positioned, Drogba would have had to nutmeg Neville for Rio to do anything, it really looked like he was hiding behind Neville.
Yes, Dazz, that's why Rio was there. He was covering the space behind Neville, at the front post. In that case, the other defenders should pull in one position across to fill the gaps, but Silvestre stayed where he was, basically right in front of Heinze, asleep.
I don't know if you have a huge understanding of how defending works or how there is much more to it than getting your head to high balls and blocking shots. Those are the basics.
<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">
Blackburn have to be the most cynical, cheap team ive seen in ages. Last season their players (Dino Baggio is the only name I remember off the top of my head) spent the entire game rolling around faking injuries to time waste and today they did the exact same thing. Constant cheap fouls and baiting our players (LuaLua was apparently stupid enough to react).
We had 3 on 1 with Kamara running on with support from O'Neil and Yakubu and some defender they just signed deliberatly chopped him down from behind. Now there was another defender between him and goal but it was as cynical and cheap and dirty as you can get.
LuaLua was having a field day constantly skinning Johansson but everytime he got past him he got wrestled to the ground, again cynically. After about the 6th time D'Urso took action.
its an absolute travisty that cheap tactics like that "earned" them points.
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It's okay mate, Mourinho has now brought all this to the attention of everyone, as has Worthington. They are pretty much seen as cheats and cunts now, happy?
Yes, Dazz, that's why Rio was there. He was covering the space behind Neville, at the front post. In that case, the other defenders should pull in one position across to fill the gaps, but Silvestre stayed where he was, basically right in front of Heinze, asleep.
I don't know if you have a huge understanding of how defending works or how there is much more to it than getting your head to high balls and blocking shots. Those are the basics.
I have a cracking understanding, I won managers player os the season when we came third in the top division and won the cup :cool: I was playing centre back that season, admittedly it's different for proffesionals to for me, but I know have you have to fucking do, and all I meant by getting his head to the ball and blocking shots are is thats what people remember about the game, and thats why he gets more praise then Gallas and Carvalho.
And if I could get this fecking clip of Lampards goal to work, I could prove you wrong. You seem like a person who'd have broadband, it's on here if you want to reconsider your previous comments http://www.carefreechris.footballclips.net/chelsfc_vids/lcgoals.html Also, it has compilations of greats like Zola on it, that might be to your liking too.
El Capitano Gatisto
02-13-2005, 07:52 AM
I remember Lampard's goal. Silvestre was at fault. I felt it at the time, the commentators also mentioned it, and overall Silvestre had a poor game that night. Drogba out-paced and out-muscled him when the ball was played up to him.
That is because, as you would say, Drogba is chief.
El Capitano Gatisto
02-13-2005, 07:56 AM
A chief, I would say. That he is. Excellent player. Bit unlucky with the injuries this season.
I thought the same of Crespo last year. Everyone said he was shit, but any time I watched him he was a class above. Too many people listen to the media and trot out the same old shit.
Twelve goals last season and makes great runs, Crespo indeed was another chief, I really hope we don't sell him in the summer, but Jose doesn't like him or his attitude, Adriano is coming apparently.
Drogba is fucking great, by far our best striker, make good runs, is powerful and is an ideal target man. He should be back for the trip to Newcastle on Sunday, which is just as well because I really didn't wanna travel five fecking hours and spend £70 to see Eidur Gudjohnsen put on a half arsed display.
Mr. Monday Morning
02-13-2005, 08:29 AM
Good as Drogba is, Adriano >>> Drogba. Adriano is like a Brazilian tank with two good feet. Unbelievable player.
I havent seen enough of him, just read loads,I really hope he comes, he does seem like the man. Him and Drog would be awesome.
Wengerland
02-13-2005, 08:56 AM
Yeah, Adriano is a complete forward and only about 23 or something, superb player. I quite like Inter so on one hand i'd want them to keep him but then again it would be great to see him in England.
0-0 at half time in the Manc derby.
aenima
02-13-2005, 08:59 AM
Cunts. High winds are preventing me from receiving a Sky signal.
At least now I get to listen to Alan Green moan about everything, though.
toxic rooster
02-13-2005, 09:04 AM
Ah..Aussie TV :cool:
COME ON CITY
Thats what you get for being so far up north, in the cold and shit weather, it's pretty good weather down herre in the south. signal has been flawless so far.
aenima
02-13-2005, 09:22 AM
I've missed a large chunk of Newcastle v. Man United, Man United v. Liverpool, Newcastle v. Middlesbrough and now Man Untied v. Man City this season thanks to the wind. If this carries on I'm going to go mental and start walking around Cumbria in just a t-shirt. It's much scarier than full nakedness, I'm telling you.
The picutre fucked up where I was wathcing the Blackbrun Vs Chelsea game the other week, other then that I have been fine all season :cool:
3-1 to United is my guess, Ronaldo, Scholes and Rooney to score the goals.
Looks like I'm onto a winner :shifty:
El Capitano Gatisto
02-13-2005, 10:00 AM
Poor Dickie Dunne. He was playing great until the own goals.
Just wonder what was up with the second. If James saw Dunne coming across to deal with it, he should have stayed put on his goal line. It's things like that which make me question James and his concentration, even if he is a great shot-stopper.
Cactus Sid
02-13-2005, 10:32 AM
I'm pretty sure when they showed the replay that James didn't even bother calling for it.
El Capitano Gatisto
02-13-2005, 10:39 AM
Bit of a mess, really. James shouldn't be going for that when Dunne is covering it. Happened a couple of times, like the time when James came racing out to the edge of the box when Dunne was dealing comfortably with a long ball, and made it look more dangerous than it really was.
One week you see him putting in a performance that sees him staking a claim for an England place again, then the next week he's getting on like a prick again. Sums up his career.
Yeah my thoughts too, James should have either come out screaming for the ball or stayed on his line. First goal was really only the left backs fault for not even fucking being there.
El Capitano Gatisto
02-13-2005, 10:57 AM
Didn't Dunne score another OG a few weeks ago, where a long ball was humped up the pitch, straight to him, and he kind of messed it up trying to take it down. But James was out at the edge of the box, and when Dunne miscontrolled it and turned, it skipped off into the net.
Against West Brom, I think. It's fucking ridiculous when keepers make things more difficult than they need to be.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/4177039.stm
Goals: Campbell 5, Wallwork 81.
NOPE
El Capitano Gatisto
02-13-2005, 11:09 AM
No, the game at City's home ground.
Well that wasn't a few weeks ago then was it, ECG. Come on, be more accurate.
http://www.football.co.uk/west_brom/match_reports/story_7458.shtml
Richard Dunne's calamitous late own goal gifted 10-man West Brom a totally unexpected point at Eastlands as Manchester City's capacity for shooting themselves in the foot reached new levels.
El Capitano Gatisto
02-13-2005, 11:13 AM
It was only a few weeks ago, you piece of shit. Round this time of year teams start playing each other quite close together.
But unbelievably, the visiting fans' jeers turned to cheers six minutes from time as, under virtually no pressure, Dunne allowed Paul Robinson's speculative long ball to bounce up and strike him on the shin.
The Irishman could only watch in stunned disbelief as the ball then rocketed low past stranded keeper David James, who had advanced to the edge of the area to deal with the non-existent danger, and roll into the net.
What the fuck, I really have no recollection of the goal.
Thats only with the team you play on the 28th December, you cockmaster.
aenima
02-13-2005, 11:15 AM
ahaha Dickie Dunne. You fat oaf.
Sky's still bollocksed. Thinking of getting the ladder out and slapping it about a bit, see if it helps. Or when I get in tonight I might just start throwing rocks at it.
El Capitano Gatisto
02-13-2005, 11:15 AM
Manchester City VS West Brom - Report.
http://www.sportnetwork.net/mainadmin/img/1921084633981.jpg
By Andy Dengate - December 28 2004
Suck on that, Mantle.
James never seems to coordinate with his defence. You could pelt shots at him all day and he'd be fantastic he just seems to really lack awareness.
Hey Ogen, do you remember that one time that James spilled a cross and Di MAtteo whacked it into the net, Chelsea went on to win 1-0. Good times, the day was capped off by Dennis Wise and his son Henry walking up the stairs to lift the F.A Cup, Good old James.
Rob Ban Fan
02-13-2005, 11:25 AM
It's okay mate, Mourinho has now brought all this to the attention of everyone, as has Worthington. They are pretty much seen as cheats and cunts now, happy?
<Font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">yes, very much so. Im just disapointed it took Jose Mourinho to make everyone take notice, had everyone just listened to me a month ago, you'd all know how filthy those Lancashire cunts are.
oh and ECG, Mask just texted me and told me to laugh at you for him for telling him Dunne was good. So hahaha.
I like Dunney though, Yak gave him a torid time last season, yet he kept getting back and getting tackles in. City fans on the train back from the match were suprised at how good he was.
Poor old Dunney, we salute you :(</font>
Yeah against us last week City fans were singing about him loads, they really appreciate.
Rob Ban Fan
02-13-2005, 11:37 AM
<Font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">That own goal against West Brom was class though. He spanked it past him and Robert Earnshaw was so desperate to get the final touch he sprinted after it and slid in, but still missed it.
Then in the return match Dunne scored this class freekick but the dickhead ref disallowed it.</font>
El Capitano Gatisto
02-13-2005, 12:05 PM
The Mask mustn't have been watching the game. Dunne was the best player on the park for 3 quarters of it. Rooney got booked for hacking him down in the first half after Dunne yet again muscled him off the ball.
I love the guy. He'll lead Ireland to a World Cup semi final, and then he'll play against Ronaldo in a battle of the extremely fat footballing geniuses.
Also, Andy Reid is now the Fat Controller. I christened him that today while talking about the Ireland friendly with the lads while watching the game.
If Ireland make it to the Semi Final of a World Cup, I will pay for your flight myself.
And the point isn't how well Dunne played, its the fact that you rant about him the whole time "Dickie this, Dickie that" and then he scores a beauty of an own goal.
We'd have made the semi's last time if it wasn't for the Keane fiasco.
aenima
02-13-2005, 01:20 PM
I doubt you'd have made it past South Korea, even if you did somehow beat Spain. The combination of average players putting in a great team performance and dogy refereeing is a deadly one.
Come on West Ham, not that I like them, but they will kick the shit out of the Arse in the next round, especially that cunt Repka.
Good that that ginger twat Sheringham missed, and how the ref is letting Kiely get away with his diving is beyond me.
Fuck you Andy Liddle :mad:
El Capitano Gatisto
02-13-2005, 02:17 PM
If Roy Keane had been playing, we wouldn't even have had Spain in the second round. We'd have topped the group, no problem. Like I said, watched back the German game and we absolutely killed them, but Kahn was unbelievable.
Just goes to show that a great goalkeeper can make a fairly crap team good. Germany of 2002 qualify as a fairly crap team, in my book. Any side with Carsten Jancker in it has to, really.
Yeah RBF always used to whine about how Fulham were shit but had Van Der Sar and Saha to make them look good.
Fergie used to say that Schmeichel was worth ten points a season, keepers don't get enough credit.
It was criminal that blackburn beat us the other season, Friedel pulled of a stupid amount of good saves and we lost 2-1.
Also, I thought you would like to know that Roman's favourite player is apparently Duff.
El Capitano Gatisto
02-13-2005, 02:52 PM
That's a good thing. Means he is probably the least likely to be brutally murdered and buried in some frozen wasteland, I suppose.
The most unlikely would be Kezman, that guy probably has some dodgy contacts in the Serbian underworld, I wouldn't fuck with him.
El Capitano Gatisto
02-13-2005, 02:55 PM
Abramovich could take out any Serbs. He's the dodgiest man currently alive.
Well yes, but still, Kezman's faimly was held hostage in some crazy plot by some crazy gang a while back, Kezman must have some dodgy ties.
I suppose Duff has either the real or fake the IRA on his side.
aenima
02-13-2005, 03:13 PM
Duff has been here so long, he's practically English now. The IRA probably hate his guts.
El Capitano Gatisto
02-13-2005, 03:15 PM
I can see you taunting me at Rajah, Baker. The walls have ears.
If they IRA care about football, they'll like him, they need him to qualify for the World Cup, I don't have ties with the IRA, nor do I wish two, perhaps EGC, Smell it?, ogen or Diothoir could confirm whether they are football enthuiasts.
For all we know Duff's crazy wages might help fund the IRA.
El Capitano Gatisto
02-13-2005, 03:17 PM
Football is probably far too English for hardcore IRA men. They would probably prefer the Gaelic variety.
aenima
02-13-2005, 03:18 PM
I can see you taunting me at Rajah, Baker. The walls have ears.
ahaha, that is tremendous, you have a network of spies. I bet when you die you're going to be one of those ghosts that watches people have sex.
Off out in a minute. Hope the lad Kris is on when I get back a bit mashed, I'm going to write a song about him.
El Capitano Gatisto
02-13-2005, 03:20 PM
Just because Davor Suker isn't visible, doesn't mean he isn't watching.
Rob Ban Fan
02-13-2005, 04:12 PM
Yeah RBF always used to whine about how Fulham were shit but had Van Der Sar and Saha to make them look good.
Fergie used to say that Schmeichel was worth ten points a season, keepers don't get enough credit.
It was criminal that blackburn beat us the other season, Friedel pulled of a stupid amount of good saves and we lost 2-1.
<Font face=vedana size=3 color="#ff6600">im glad you're finally taking notice of all the brilliant stuff I say about football.
Blackburn being dirty, Fulham (and Birmingham, even though that was also because of their tight arse defence) performing above themselves last season cos they had a good striker and a good keeper and Wayne Bridge being shit.
Also, how is Sheringham ginger, you blind twat?</font>
FullLeatherJacket
02-13-2005, 06:58 PM
Am I the only one that thinks that Dickie Dunne is Rooney's secret older brother, hidden from the media so Wayne can play for a proper international team?
On today's performance, it's looking more and more likely. Dickie has mad finishing skillz.
aenima
02-13-2005, 07:12 PM
He looks like a potato. Honestly, FLJ, I'm telling you.
El Capitano Gatisto
02-13-2005, 07:18 PM
Rooney could have turned out for Ireland. Fuck him, we stole McGeady off the Scots. It's like watching a Ronaldo who can cross.
The Mask
02-13-2005, 07:20 PM
vids.
I've seen two of him pulling off the same trick, which is pretty awesome, but he follows both up with some pretty dire crosses.
aenima
02-13-2005, 07:20 PM
Is he left wing? I think he's played there whenever I've seen him (ie, once).
If England don't snap me up soon I might aswell try out for Iran. I'm getting real impatient.
aenima
02-13-2005, 07:24 PM
vids.
I've seen two of him pulling off the same trick, which is pretty awesome, but he follows both up with some pretty dire crosses.
It was a decent trick, but it's been done before, a good three or four years ago. Definitely by some Leicester player who fell into obscurity. Possibly Steve Guppy.
El Capitano Gatisto
02-13-2005, 07:25 PM
Is he left wing? I think he's played there whenever I've seen him (ie, once).
Celtic use him out there but he plays central for the Irish youth sides, apparently. He can play with either foot, and all along midfield, both wings or up front. Says he prefers the role behind a front two, though.
High hopes for him, ever since I read an article about him ages ago about how he could do millions of keep-e-ups with a golf ball, like Maradona.
FullLeatherJacket
02-13-2005, 07:25 PM
I saw Rooney's uncle do an interview on the news during the Euros.
He was quite possibly the most Irish person I've ever seen.
In fact, he was so Irish, you couldn't actually understand anything he said, other than the fact that he was definitely from Ireland, and by definition, almost certainly very drunk.
El Capitano Gatisto
02-13-2005, 07:27 PM
vids.
I've seen two of him pulling off the same trick, which is pretty awesome, but he follows both up with some pretty dire crosses.
I doubt it. He's a sweet crosser.
He did that Ronaldinho thing on his debut. Anyway, he's a couple of years younger than Cristano and the Roonyard. I've only seen a couple of full games from him and a bunch of sub appearances. Berne loves him.
I hear he hasn't been doing it lately, however.
I thought Maradona did it with a Ping Pong ball, but then I'm guessing he probably did it was both and it's probably not that you are mistaken.
aenima
02-13-2005, 07:29 PM
I thought you wanted to marry Rooney.
I could imagine him there in a white dress (he'd be the woman) and I'd be in the corner drinking Kronenbourg, with Toby sucking my tiny willy with his black dog lips.
El Capitano Gatisto
02-13-2005, 07:32 PM
I thought Maradona did it with a Ping Pong ball, but then I'm guessing he probably did it was both and it's probably not that you are mistaken.
It was all of them.
It was an article I read in the Sunday Times ages ago, before he broke into the Celtic side about how he could do them all day with a football, so then he worked on a tennis ball, then a golf ball, then a ping-pong ball, basically emulating Maradona.
The more players we have like that in an Ireland shirt, the better. Robbie, Duffer and McGeady, with the Fat Controller, Andy Reid, not far behind.
El Capitano Gatisto
02-13-2005, 07:33 PM
http://jaime.footballclips.net/:%20Mcgeady/
The Mask
02-13-2005, 07:38 PM
nah trust me, both the crosses are bordering on terrible. You feel bad for the lad, cause he pulls off that move and takes it past 3 defenders then fucks it up completely. I have heard good things though. I'll hook you up with them when I get home, cause I still have them somewhere.
El Capitano Gatisto
02-13-2005, 07:42 PM
The Rangers one is scuffed, yeah, but the first file there, against Aberdeen, that's a great cross. If you had Hartson or Sutton in there instead of that Somalian spastic Camara, it'd have been a certain goal.
The free kick is great.
The biggest match of his career, against AC Milan, he was very impressive. Milan sent scouts back to watch him after it.
aenima
02-13-2005, 07:53 PM
In the match I saw him, he looked decent, with some potential. Doubt he'll ever reach the top heights of the game, though, it's the Irish curse.
El Capitano Gatisto
02-13-2005, 07:55 PM
He's 18, you piece of shit. Bit early to be writing the kid off. That's like something Simon would say.
I bet if he was a Brazilian nig nog with purple hair and a ginger beard you'd be saying he's the next greatest player in the world.
aenima
02-13-2005, 08:00 PM
I'm not writing him off, you wheelchair bastard. I don't think Kevin Gallen will ever play international football.
And please don't compare me to Simon. It's like calling a white man a coloured.
Dickie Dunne.
El Capitano Gatisto
02-13-2005, 08:01 PM
Ireland are the greatest team in the world. No other side has such a balance of obesity and genius skill.
aenima
02-13-2005, 08:03 PM
And stolen black men.
The Mask
02-13-2005, 08:35 PM
okay, the two clips on that site are the ones i'm talking about. the rangers one is piss poor if he's supposedly two footed, but i can let that go as mistakes are made and it's just bad luck probably. As for the one against Aberdeen, I wouldn't lay the blame anywhere but at his feet. He has ten yards or so in front of him, with no-one steaming in for any obvious tackle. The duffer he took it past turns slower than my grandad and makes no attempt to go for the ball again, he just starts running up. So why he can't take the time to pick out a decent pass is beyond me. With the space he has, he could probably get into a decent shooting position as well.
The free kick is fair enough, but it's some shocking goalkeeping to say the keeper had that post pretty much covered. It's pretty much like the one Rooney took today, only James saved it.
Wengerland
02-13-2005, 08:54 PM
It was a decent trick, but it's been done before, a good three or four years ago. Definitely by some Leicester player who fell into obscurity. Possibly Steve Guppy.
WHOOOOOO
GUPPY FOR ENGLAND
Only watched the Aberdeen trick from McGeady, which was pretty smart. Gupps did a stepover which left him to the side of the ball and then nutmegged the defender, who was playing for Derby aswell, great stuff.
The Mask
02-13-2005, 09:01 PM
Also, watching Ronaldo and Rooney link up brings me close to tears of joy lately. Watching that bit with Heinze, Ronaldo and Rooney taking the piss out of city down the left was a joy to behold.
Fair play to Chelsea if they win the league, cause I think the promise being shown by our team, along with the veterans pulling their fingers out and putting in games like it was 99 again is brilliant. My only real gripe is that Silvestre is a bit of a dopey cunt at times, which is a shame cause he can be great on his day. Carroll is doing his job fine too, and I suppose it's nice to see a steady keeper, as Barthez had me a gibbering wreck at times, and I never felt confident with him in net. Carroll seems to generally keep the ball out of the net, and as long as he does that, I'm happy.
I'm looking forward to AC, knowing what we can pull out against Arsenal, and the likes.
Carroll does no such thing, you are doing and ECG now and bigging up the Irish just for their nationality. That was fucking shit keeping when he got nugmegged for Arsenals second goal the other week, and yeah he makes good saves like from Shauny Wright Wright Wright yesterday but overall he is still unreliable, you still need to sign Given in the summer.
Mr. Monday Morning
02-14-2005, 09:43 AM
The Rangers one is scuffed, yeah, but the first file there, against Aberdeen, that's a great cross. If you had Hartson or Sutton in there instead of that Somalian spastic Camara, it'd have been a certain goal.
:love:
*Senegalese, but whatever, :love:
El Capitano Gatisto
02-14-2005, 11:03 AM
I know he's Senegalese. I just wanted to emphasise how much I hate him, by associating him with the least worthy of our African brothers.
Henri Camara is a disgrace to the sport of association football in every way concievable. He is shite, greedy, arrogant, disloyal and most probably rapes babies.
aenima
02-14-2005, 11:06 AM
Carroll does no such thing, you are doing and ECG now and bigging up the Irish just for their nationality. That was fucking shit keeping when he got nugmegged for Arsenals second goal the other week, and yeah he makes good saves like from Shauny Wright Wright Wright yesterday but overall he is still unreliable, you still need to sign Given in the summer.
If they sign Shay Given I'm going to kill myself. I love that lad.
El Capitano Gatisto
02-14-2005, 11:06 AM
okay, the two clips on that site are the ones i'm talking about. the rangers one is piss poor if he's supposedly two footed, but i can let that go as mistakes are made and it's just bad luck probably. As for the one against Aberdeen, I wouldn't lay the blame anywhere but at his feet. He has ten yards or so in front of him, with no-one steaming in for any obvious tackle. The duffer he took it past turns slower than my grandad and makes no attempt to go for the ball again, he just starts running up. So why he can't take the time to pick out a decent pass is beyond me. With the space he has, he could probably get into a decent shooting position as well.
The free kick is fair enough, but it's some shocking goalkeeping to say the keeper had that post pretty much covered. It's pretty much like the one Rooney took today, only James saved it.
Jesus calm down, they're 3 old clips.
If you were being that critical about your beloved Cristiano, you'd probably grow to hate him.
ECG, Camara is not shit, he scores some good goals and he was good for Wolves.
Aenima, whats the point of Given staying with you, you won't be in Europe next season, Souness is an incompetant boob, and with him in the United or Arsenal team they'd be in a better league position, I would be shocked if he stays put.
El Capitano Gatisto
02-14-2005, 12:53 PM
Henri Camara is awful. Really diabolical player, with a ridiculous attitude to go with his lack of ability.
aenima
02-14-2005, 12:57 PM
ECG, Camara is not shit, he scores some good goals and he was good for Wolves.
Aenima, whats the point of Given staying with you, you won't be in Europe next season, Souness is an incompetant boob, and with him in the United or Arsenal team they'd be in a better league position, I would be shocked if he stays put.
On our side, because he's a really superb goalkeeper that earns us more points than Alan Shearer over the course of a season.
On his side, he's a bit thick with blind loyalties. He could have left a long time ago, but he keeps coming out and saying he loves the club and wants to stay. I wouldn't really blame him if he went, to be honest, but I wouldn't complain if he stayed.
What the fuck, are you two the same person, you are always here at the same time.
And yeah obviously you'd want him to stay, but he was fucking sensational against Arsenal at the Library, and Wenger must have taken notice.
El Capitano Gatisto
02-14-2005, 01:16 PM
Sam Baker wants to be me. It's a pity his cleft palate and dyslexia hinder his progress, as I am a perfect role model for the modern teenage boy.
aenima
02-14-2005, 01:17 PM
Gatesy just follows me around nowadays. Ever since Berne died.
I don't know why nobody has put a bid in for Given yet. He's about 30 now, and been playing regular first team football for a good six or seven years. There was a rumour going around before the January transfer window that Ferguson wanted to take him to Old Trafford in the summer, along with Jenas, which was a weird one. No idea how that one'll play out.
Danny Electric
02-14-2005, 01:27 PM
I agree with Dazz on Camara but his attitude stinks.
El Capitano Gatisto
02-14-2005, 01:34 PM
No, Camara is absolute bollocks. He has the touch of an absolute rapist and is a woeful finisher. One of the worst players I have seen at Premiership level, and definitely at Champions League level.
He's quick, and black. That's all he has going for him as a footballer.
As for Shay, I think he's still only 27 or 28. He made his debut for Ireland at 17, about ten years ago, and has been pretty much number 1 since then.
El Capitano Gatisto
02-14-2005, 01:37 PM
Maybe he wasn't 17 on his debut, actually, but pretty sure he was still a teenager. I think I'm getting him mixed up with Kilbane who came in around the same time as a 17 year old.
Yeah the way he treated Wolves and stuff was bang out of order.
Given may be 30 but up until this season Newscatle has always been competing for a Champions League place and always seem to look like they might get it, now that they are officially shit, and with Shearer on his way out.
aenima
02-14-2005, 01:39 PM
Just checked, he's 28. I thought he was older than that, seems to have been at Newcastle forever. Love that bastard.
I remember when Kenny Dalglish had a mental breakdown and tried to sell off all our best players. Given was one of them. My God he was a cunt.
ECG, did you not see his goal on his debut for the Saints the other week, fucking great goal.
Mr. Monday Morning
02-14-2005, 01:43 PM
If Camara had been any good for us he would've scored goals when we weren't already more or less relegated :mad:
aenima
02-14-2005, 01:43 PM
Yeah the way he treated Wolves and stuff was bang out of order.
Given may be 30 but up until this season Newscatle has always been competing for a Champions League place and always seem to look like they might get it, now that they are officially shit, and with Shearer on his way out. Actually, he established himself in the Dalglish era, when we were midtable and going nowhere. Out of the eight seasons since, we've challenged for the Champions League about four times. People always seem to forget that between third place with Sir Bobby and second with Keegan we were struggling to finish in the top half.
El Capitano Gatisto
02-14-2005, 01:44 PM
I don't care if he scored a great goal on his debut. I see great goals on windy pitches in North Antrim on Saturday afternoons scored by fat wankers who smoke 40 cigs a day.
Fact is, Henri Camara has a first touch akin to that of the seductive caress of a rapist, he is quite capable of missing 10 times when presented with 10 clear-cut chances, and overall is a diabolical footballer who does not belong anywhere near top flight level.
Considering the flak his countryman Diouf got, despite being far superior in quality, Camara should probably be executed in the Tower of London for being paid so much money to pretend to be a Premiership footballer.
No, if he scores good goals, it shows he can at least do something, he scored goals for Wolves too, so he can fucking finish the ball.
aenima
02-14-2005, 01:50 PM
He was largely terrible for Wolves, except for a couple of months at the end where score four or five decent goals.
Never saw him for Celtic, but I've been told he was worse for them than Stephane Guiv'arch was for us.
yeah i never saw him at Celtic
Also, apparently Dyer nearly got battered before Jenas and Kluvert came to his aid at some club
El Capitano Gatisto
02-14-2005, 02:14 PM
No, if he scores good goals, it shows he can at least do something, he scored goals for Wolves too, so he can fucking finish the ball.
<TABLE class=summ><TBODY><TR bgColor=#ffb012><TD>Season</TD><TD>Appearances (subs)</TD><TD>Goals</TD><TD>Rating</TD><TD>Appearances (subs)</TD><TD>Goals</TD><TD>Rating</TD><TD>Appearances (subs)</TD><TD>Goals</TD><TD>Rating</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffebcd><TD>2003-2004 (http://www.wolves.stats.btinternet.co.uk/seasons/2000s/2003_04.html)</TD><TD>29 (1)</TD><TD>7</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
7 goals in 29 appearances.
He is an awful finisher.
The Mask
02-14-2005, 02:18 PM
I'm just saying, all I've seen of him is that. I'd be interested to see more if you've got it, because anyone who can pull that off must have something going for him.
The Mask
02-14-2005, 02:21 PM
On an entirely seperate note, I think I am deeply and utterly in love with Ole Gunnar Solskjaer.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/4265489.stm
Manchester United star Ole Gunnar Solskjaer has joined the anti Malcolm Glazer protest by becoming a patron of fans action group Shareholders United.
"I think it is important that the club remains in the right hands," said the man who scored the winning goal in the team's 1999 Champions League victory.
"I am honoured," said Solskjaer, who is the first current player from the Reds to join the group.
Other patrons include ex stars Harry Gregg, Alex Stepney and Paddy Crerand.
"I am absolutely on the supporters' side and think the club is in very good hands as it is today," said Solskjaer.
"I am a United fan myself and only want what is best for the future."
The announcement came on Monday as US tycoon Glazer finally got a chance to view the club's accounts as part of the due diligence process - the investigation to check a business is viable before a takeover.
Everyone had a fit over the lad when he got a few goals for Wolves but he really is nothing special. He's a Championship player.
Solskjaer is great really hope he manages at least one more game for United.
Mr. Monday Morning
02-14-2005, 03:01 PM
No, if he scores good goals, it shows he can at least do something, he scored goals for Wolves too, so he can fucking finish the ball.
Honestly, this will sound like I'm bitter or something, but the spectacular goals he scores are flukes. 9/10 times they would go out of the stadium. I'm surprised you don't remember the game at the Bridge last season when he only managed to score via the inside of Carlo's right leg.
Wengerland
02-14-2005, 03:52 PM
Arsenal 3-0 up at half time, some good goals but Palace were the better side for the opening 15 or so.
Lehmann very nearly did an Enckleman aswell.
toxic rooster
02-14-2005, 05:00 PM
Same linesman as the one at Old Trafford too. It was on the line when Lehmann cleared it.
5-1 at fulltime, could have been 6. Henry scored from onside but Bergkamp was offside so it was dissalowed. Vieira gave away a penalty but other than that was fantastic, as was Bergkamp.
Rob Ban Fan
02-14-2005, 05:40 PM
<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">yeah, Camara is absolutly bollocks. From what I remember of his goals he scored for Wolves, a lot of them were long shots that go in when you have a bit of luck, like Adam pointed out. None of them were good, clinical finishes. I remember he fucked up this shot at Old Trafford from about 1 yard out because he tried to be clever with it.
Dickheads kept ringing into phone ins down here in the summer and saying "we should be going for Camara, good proven premiership player." I nearly cried. He's just an old version of Yakubu. Plus he's a complete cunt.
Wolves must be laughing at the amount of money stupid clubs are paying them to loan him off them.</font>
Mr. Monday Morning
02-15-2005, 05:09 AM
Chelsea striker Eidur Gudjohnsen has been arrested on suspicion of drink driving.
The Icelandic international was stopped in the early hours of Sunday morning in Surrey.
A Scotland Yard spokeswoman said: "At 5.20am on Sunday on the A3 southbound near Esher, officers stopped a car due to the way it was being driven. The driver, a 26-year-old man, was subsequently arrested on suspicion of driving while under the influence of alcohol."
She added: "He was taken to a south London police station and has since been bailed to return on a date at the end of March."
A report in The Sun suggested Gudjohnsen had been out celebrating his winning goal in Chelsea's victory at Everton on Saturday.
toxic rooster
02-15-2005, 05:43 AM
Why wait till march, he'll just get a fine and slap on the wrist anyway.
Wengerland
02-15-2005, 06:36 AM
HAHAHA YES
first Scowcroft and now Makin has gone, brilliant stuff.
Cactus Sid
02-15-2005, 07:26 AM
<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600"> "we should be going for Camara,
</font>
You did get Kamara :shifty:
Honestly, this will sound like I'm bitter or something, but the spectacular goals he scores are flukes. 9/10 times they would go out of the stadium. I'm surprised you don't remember the game at the Bridge last season when he only managed to score via the inside of Carlo's right leg.
I can't for the life of me remember his goal actually. I remember all of our ones, but like I've said to Owen before, I often forget goals against us. All I remember is you lot thinking you might get a sneaky win or a draw then Jimmy Jimmy Jimmy Floyd 'Asselbaink annihilated you :love:
Mr. Monday Morning
02-15-2005, 08:28 AM
I never thought that actually. I was listening to it on Five Live and we seemed to be doing ok, then they went round the grounds and my heart sank cause I knew when they went back you'd have scored :'(
Bloody Lampard :rant:
His goal was a beaut, if my memory serves me correctly, Melchiot scored the first goal, then you went 2-1 up, your fans were singing loads and getting all cocky, I think "Champions League, your having a laugh" was one of the songs they were singing, as well as taunting Jimmy for being a sub.
Mr. Monday Morning
02-15-2005, 08:57 AM
Yeah Melchiot pretty much strolled through our defence :$ Then again he went past on Lee Naylor's side so that's not saying much.
I fucking hate that "xxxxxx you're having a laugh" chant, it's like complete overkill now. Ok yes it's I can see how it's good that it can be adapted to fit almost anything but it's a fucking annoying tune :mad:
You would love to come to a Chelsea game then, we used that tune to sing the following stuff:
Petr Cech, Cudicini
William Gallas, John Terry
Franky Lampard, Makelele
Arjen Robben, Damien Duff
Toppa the league, Aving a laugh
Champions League, Aving a laugh
Jacko
02-15-2005, 09:32 AM
But that's some good chants.
Better than Arjen Robben, Arjen Robben.
We get two for the price of one.
Plus Maka and Billy get their names sung deservidly.
Even The East Stand and West Stand can do that. Abliet not to loudly.
Your back at last, I was wondering where you'd gone. Someone suggested we sing (to the same tune):
I told my mate, the other day
That I have found, the White Pele
My mate said who? Who is it then?
I told him that, it's Arjen Robben
Arjen Robben, Arjen Robben
Personally I like the on MHL sometimes sing:
Robben's Good, Robben's Good
Running down the wing
Robben's Good, Robben's Good
Watch him do his thing
Wanted by the reds, bought by the blues
Robben's Good, Robben's Good.
aenima
02-15-2005, 02:40 PM
Match is about to kick-off soon. I'm expecting Stevie Gerrard to give everybody a good kicking, including his own teammates.
Mr. Monday Morning
02-15-2005, 03:18 PM
What match :wtf:
El Capitano Gatisto
02-15-2005, 03:37 PM
The Tsunami thing, probably.
aenima
02-15-2005, 03:39 PM
It's alright so far. 2-1 to the dark fellows. Ronaldinho, Kaka and Eto'o have been taking the piss.
No, Camara is absolute bollocks. He has the touch of an absolute rapist and is a woeful finisher. One of the worst players I have seen at Premiership level, and definitely at Champions League level.
He's quick, and black. That's all he has going for him as a footballer.
Did ya think of me when Camara scored twice and set up another :naughty:
I know there was no tackling, but come on, the guy has some serious talent.
Oh yeah and Zola's goal was a beaut, I wish he didn't go, but then, he left after his best season, so I guess that was good.
Also, I am really glad Ronaldinho never went to United, the guy is class and so loveable, his skills, his body language, his smile :love:
Rob Ban Fan
02-15-2005, 07:55 PM
<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">he was trying harder than everyone else on the pitch put together. For the 2nd goal he was sprinting through and the defenders just couldn't be arsed to get knackered or risk injury so didn't bother going after him.
The commentators said it looked like he was trying to put himself in the shop window.
Zola's goal was nice though. :cool:</font>
Yes Owen, I know, I am not an idiot, trying harder or not, he still has a good touch and a good finish.
One of the worst players in the Premiership??? Nigga what? No one remember dickheads like Jason Lee, Weah's 'cousin', Slavisa Jokanovic, Stephen Bywater, Diego Forlan, David Bellion, Pascal Cygan, Giles Grimandi, Arjen De Zeuuw. I bet Bolton have a shitload of shit players too, I just can't remember them
Danny Electric
02-15-2005, 08:16 PM
Liverpool have had some duffs too. Igor Biscan, Torben Piknik to name some.
Rob Ban Fan
02-15-2005, 08:18 PM
<Font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">Id say he's about on par with David Bellion really since they're both black and pacy. Only Bellion is like 6 years younger.
Diego Forlan is doing really well in Spain, incidently.
The point is, the only thing Camara has going for him is his pace.</font>
Oh yes, Biscan, lolz. You've had a few horrible nig nogs too, shame the names aren't coming to my head right now.
Owen you blind Doofus, I think I know what this comes down to, he is only a poor lil scummer, once he moves to a team you don't envy, you will like him. He has skill and a great shot.
Rob Ban Fan
02-15-2005, 08:24 PM
<Font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">Biscan isn't that bad. He was quite a good player until Houllier signed him and ruined him by playing him out of posision, id love to sign him.</font>
Rob Ban Fan
02-15-2005, 08:27 PM
Owen you blind Doofus, I think I know what this comes down to, he is only a poor lil scummer, once he moves to a team you don't envy, you will like him. He has skill and a great shot.
<Font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">well, that certainly is true. Apart from all of it.
I didn't rate him when he was at Wolves, as my post on the previous page about how I didn't want us to sign him in the summer proves. Plus the way he treated Wolves was gay.
I wasn't bothered when Southampton signed him, I was just glad they missed out on Andy Reid. Henri Camara's finishing makes Yakubu look clinical (Yakubu is a really poor finisher, I thought i should point that out incase you didnt get it, sorry Dazz :$)</font>
19 goals in a season and has some skill, the Yak is the man, but fuck off to ten million for him. Look RBF, Biscan is shit, De Zeuuw is fat and slow, other then your blackburn rant, you are always wrong.
Danny Electric
02-15-2005, 08:47 PM
Please take Biscan off our hands. He's had one good game against Olympiakos, since that and before that he is and has been terrible.
Mr Electric, did you cheer on Mehdi? I most certainly did.
Danny Electric
02-15-2005, 09:01 PM
Was Mahdavikia playing tonight?
Yeah, thats who i meant (I think), I didn't know which one is his first and last name
Danny Electric
02-15-2005, 09:07 PM
Mehdi is his first name like me. I just wish I could play football like him, one of Hamburg's best players and was wanted by Spurs but they were scared that he would miss too many matches in playing internationals for Iran.
I still rememer his goal against the USA in the 98 World Cup, my house went mental. :)
I see, my name is too fecking English for my liking, I wish my middle name was something cool, even Rischard would have done, there are so many great paki/irani names to choose from and I didn't get one :mad:.
I don't remember his goal, but I wish there were more (or at least any) Irani's in the premiership.
Danny Electric
02-15-2005, 09:27 PM
Only Iranian I know to play in The Premiership was Karim Bagheri a couple of seasons back for Charlton but they hardly played him.
I remember Ali Daei scoring twice for Hertha against Chelsea in the Champions League a few seasons back.
Mr. Monday Morning
02-16-2005, 01:19 PM
4 RBF :love:
<img src="http://www.football365.com/mediastore/Story_Images/MediaWatch/Dioufus.jpg">
I notice you have nothing to add to the Camara debate, not even an 'He played well last night"
Yes Owen, I know, I am not an idiot, trying harder or not, he still has a good touch and a good finish.
One of the worst players in the Premiership??? Nigga what? No one remember dickheads like Jason Lee, Weah's 'cousin', Slavisa Jokanovic, Stephen Bywater, Diego Forlan, David Bellion, Pascal Cygan, Giles Grimandi, Arjen De Zeuuw. I bet Bolton have a shitload of shit players too, I just can't remember them
Forlan? Joint 3rd top goal scorer in Spain. Fair enough. Where's that gypo Kezman though?
Oh yes, Biscan, lolz. You've had a few horrible nig nogs too, shame the names aren't coming to my head right now.
Nig nogs? Did you just say that?
aenima
02-16-2005, 01:37 PM
He should have said coloureds, really.
El Capitano Gatisto
02-16-2005, 01:55 PM
Camara is crap. See his goal last night, where he played it through the defence and ran onto it? He meant to trap that ball, seriously.
He's awful, and a charity match won't change it.
He's quick, I'll give him that, but his technique is terrible and he is not a good finisher. A good finisher would have came away with more goals than he did last season, given the amount of chances he skied or sliced.
I'll never forget seeing the shape of him in the Champions League for Celtic, against AC Milan. Ball coming across the box to him, he's free on just inside, just needs to put it away to become a hero in the San Siro. He was probably thinking about that as he completely missed the fucking ball and caught the air with his wild swing, like the spastic kid who has never played before and just tries to boot it as hard as he can.
Mr. Monday Morning
02-16-2005, 04:27 PM
I notice you have nothing to add to the Camara debate, not even an 'He played well last night"
Probably because I didn't see it. Unlike some round here I won't wade in and comment on something I've no clue about ;)
EH???!!!!! Bollocks don't I know what I'm talking about, just because you disagree with me MMM, doesn't mean I don't know what I'm talking about, you don't like him yet he scored goals for you, and has been good in the couple of games for the saints.
Forlan? Joint 3rd top goal scorer in Spain. Fair enough. Where's that gypo Kezman though?
I said the premiership, not the world, in his time in the Premiership, Forlan was a joke. I wanna give Kezman more time first, plus he is the man, so I refuse to slate him yet, and don't make me nick MMM's statistics.
Mr. Monday Morning
02-17-2005, 03:33 AM
EH???!!!!! Bollocks don't I know what I'm talking about, just because you disagree with me MMM, doesn't mean I don't know what I'm talking about, you don't like him yet he scored goals for you, and has been good in the couple of games for the saints.
Where did I say you specifically :roll: Paranoid :p
Alex Rae scored goals for us yet worked his ass off all season long and didn't bitch when we went down, everyone knew he wanted to go to Rangers and he did it in the right way and for that he is still liked.
Steffen Iversen scored goals for us (not many mind you) and tried but he was still not good enough.
He scored some flukey goals toward the end of the season, for 2/3 of it he wasted some genuinely good chances that often didn't make it onto the highlights show and if we'd had someone like a, I dunno, say an Alan Smith in that position instead, I can guarantee you we would've had a *lot* more goals and a *far* better chance of staying up.
Plus the whole '"I wanna leave thing" and then saying he wanted to play at a bigger club than Celtic (while *at* Celtic no less) just gives me no reason to like him.
Yeah and I have said Camara's attitude stinks, and of course you meanr me :mad:
Rob Ban Fan
02-17-2005, 07:20 AM
<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">be interesting to see what his goal to game ratio was like before about march.</font>
Rob Ban Fan
02-17-2005, 07:25 AM
19 goals in a season and has some skill, the Yak is the man, but fuck off to ten million for him. Look RBF, Biscan is shit, De Zeuuw is fat and slow, other then your blackburn rant, you are always wrong.
<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">yeah but he's still a poor finisher, take it from me.
and out of all our defenders, de Zeeuw is probably the 5th thinest out of 6. Unsworth, Primus, Taylor and Griffin all being fatter than him.</font>
Mr. Monday Morning
02-17-2005, 09:28 AM
Yeah and I have said Camara's attitude stinks, and of course you meanr me :mad:
No, I didn't. Get over yourself.
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