Football Talk 2004/2005 (Soccer)

[Y2Ant]

HAHAHA YES.

Fucking quality, Dudek doing those dances on the line LOL

[The Mask]

yeah you did, which pisses me off even more :'(

[#BROKEN Hasney]

If Gerrard was going to leave in the summer, I can't see him doing it now

[Wengerland]

fucking brilliant.

[Dazz]

Fucking heck, Well done Liverpool, Jamie Carragher Liverpool through and through, Gerrard told Chelsea where to stick it and won the European cup with Liverpool, Benitez is a fuckign genius, and the fans are immense, they truely deserved it.

It every Liverpool player isn't sucking Jerzey Dudek off then they should be, the double save in extra time and the two penalty saves were immense.

[Dazz]

Fucking hell lads, Liverpool did it <3

I hope even if you're not a Liverpool fan you can at least see we deserved that shit

Celebrating times :love: :love: :love:

Yep, I found it hard to stay neutral, absolutley unbelievable. The whole of England (Except your rivals) should have been behind you.

I'm gunna pick me up the DVD of that, what a thrilling game for a nuetral.

[Jonster]

Yep, I found it hard to stay neutral, absolutley unbelievable. The whole of England (Except your rivals) should have been behind you.

I'm gunna pick me up the DVD of that, what a thrilling game for a nuetral.
I was behind them, but I didn't think they could do it. :$

[packt up]

HOLY MOTHER OF GOD WHAT A GAME

I was cheering my ass off for Liverpool such an amazing feeling I can only imagine what Liverpool fans were feeling. Its games like that which are great adverts for football that anything is possible.

Well done Liverpool you deserved it.

[Dazz]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">fucking hell, goose bumps :$ proper jealous that im probably never going to get to experience anything like that with Pompey

ah well :D nice one Liverpool</font>

I'll let you know the feeling next year ;).

Good to see it Jonster, you are a rubbish football fan by your own admission, but it was such a good game to get into.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

It was the perfect final. First half was a fantastic team full of brilliant players just giving a footballing masterclass, second half was a crap team getting back into it through having enormous testicles.

[Rob Ban Fan]

I'll let you know the feeling next year ;).

Good to see it Jonster, you are a rubbish football fan by your own admission, but it was such a good game to get into.

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">no, you see. I want to feel it :$ not have someone tell me baout it :'(</font>

[Dazz]

Well that's not gunna happen Owen.

If Milan win, I hope Kaka scores it, not sure what bets to put on for goalscorers though, don't think Shev will score, kinda fancy Gerrard <s>and Riise</s>

Good old Shev, knew he wasn't gunna perform :cool:

[soconnor]

Dazz is the type of fan I love, he's loyal towards his team but knows when to support the English. I've never had a problem with Chelsea fans and I guess it's easy to love everyone when your team has won the cup. Sure you'll give us a ride next year. Was an excellent final, for me I couldn't enjoy it as much as I felt so anxious. Just so glad we did it. Now the seasons over, I need the rest. I was positive all the way and it paid off. I know we aren't the best team but we've got some fucking heart :love: :love: :love:.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Yep, I found it hard to stay neutral, absolutley unbelievable. The whole of England (Except your rivals) should have been behind you.

I'm gunna pick me up the DVD of that, what a thrilling game for a nuetral.

I believe I shall also pick up said DVD

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Well that's not gunna happen Owen.



Good old Shev, knew he wasn't gunna perform :cool:Come on, Shevchenko played well. I would feel sorry for the lad, if he hadn't already scored a winning penalty in the final a couple of years back. He's such a superb footballer. Hope Chelsea don't get near him, they'd be unbeatable. Looks like we're going to see him at the World Cup next year, all being well.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Indeed Sheva is the best striker in the world IMO mainly because of his consistency. You don't get voted Milan's best ever player for being sloppy.

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">him and Crespo both looked immense in the first half, Cafu too. </font>

[Dazz]

Dazz is the type of fan I love, he's loyal towards his team but knows when to support the English. I've never had a problem with Chelsea fans and I guess it's easy to love everyone when your team has won the cup. Sure you'll give us a ride next year. Was an excellent final, for me I couldn't enjoy it as much as I felt so anxious. Just so glad we did it. Now the seasons over, I need the rest. I was positive all the way and it paid off. I know we aren't the best team but we've got some fucking heart :love: :love: :love:.

RBF is the same too, he is the best football fan I know bar me :cool: but it really annoys me when people are just bitter because their team didn't do what you lot did. Like I say there is no reason for teams not to like you, and I still cannot get over how when you were doing shit your fans were singing throughout the Spurs League Cup away game the Rafa Benitez song, my mate was there and said it's all the scousers sung. The fans truely deserved it, anyone thats not a United or Everton fan has to be jealous and bitter to not appreciate what you did tonight. I guess now they know the feeling you all had in '99.

I am guessing you are going to tomorrows parade.


And ECG, he was fucking appauling, his first half display resembled that of not even a top twenty striker, shit control, lacked anything creative, and other then an offside goal he was awful, I guess Dudek's double save from him was the only memorable thing Shev did. Fucking appauling, I cannot believe they took Crespo off, fucking twats, they should have left it how it was. And does that last comment of all being well mean if Ukraine get there, of if Chelsea don't kidnap him.


MMM, unless you wait for the official one, then go to www.micksevern.co.uk , that guy is the man, he charges like a fiver (this will be a tenner most likely as it will be two discs) but he divides it into chapters and its really well set out. He just records it off TV but the quality is around 9.5/10.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Kaka and Pirlo looked untouchable in the first half.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

And ECG, he was fucking appauling, his first half display resembled that of not even a top twenty striker, shit control, lacked anything creative, and other then an offside goal he was awful, I guess Dudek's double save from him was the only memorable thing Shev did. Fucking appauling, I cannot believe they took Crespo off, fucking twats, they should have left it how it was. And does that last comment of all being well mean if Ukraine get there, of if Chelsea don't kidnap him.



He played well. His movement in the first half was brilliant, Liverpool defenders were all over the place trying to keep up with him. His goal wasn't even offside. He was creating havoc.

"All being well" means if he doesn't get injured. He is big mates with Abramovich apparently, so he won't be murdered.

[Dazz]

I love Kaka, still gutted he couldn't get his work permit for us, he should be ours.

His movement was good, but when he got the ball he did shit all with it. I thought his goal was well offside. And yeah I forgot about his Abramovich link :cool:

[Danny Electric]

:(

So fucking happy.

[Dazz]

Wrong emoticon then.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Did shit all with it apart from creating the 2nd goal, you mean

[Dazz]

Yeah I just remembered that. Still the wrong ball, Kaka was in a better position ;).

[Danny Electric]

Haha yeah meant this :)

[Danny Electric]

Dazz I love you for having faith in us and supporting us. Same to Owen too.

[Dazz]

I supported you as much as you can support a team that isn't your own, some of my mates went too far though, I had Villa, ManYoo, Arsenal and Britsol City fans around me singing You'll never walk alone at the end. But one of them had just won £50 and the other won £100 so I can see why they were so happy.

[soconnor]

Exactly, they are definitley top class guys. I'd like to think I'd be so respectful is Chelsea or Portsmouth did the same. I think I would. I only have a problem with Manchester United but I know loads of class people who support them. It's a game at the end of the day, with millionaire foreigners running the show. But we love it. True fucking fans who support the club, buy the season tickets and shirts. Whether we get fifth or win the champions league. Through thick and thin. Class fans. Enough to shake hands and admit that life isn't so bad. We'll be back whatever happens, every club gets another chance. Been an excellent season, ups and downs. So many downs but the finale was more than I could have ever asked for. Love this thread, respect to you all.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

I screamed like a rape victim when Liverpool's second went in, then when Xabi Alonso scored his. I love Xabi Alonso so much, he is a brilliant footballer.

The maniacs next door banged my wall and called me a "fucking asshole" or something ridiculous.

[Danny Electric]

:)

I loved seeing the fans sing 'You Never Walk Alone' before the second half started. They are true class.

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">well said :p enjoy it</font>

[soconnor]

Alonso is my favourite player. His footballing skills are sublime. Know my input is now ridiculousy drunk and unnecessary. However I'd like to give my fucking credit to Jersey Dudek who's had an up and down season, however his grobbelaar stunts was not only hillarious but amazing to. Know that Smicer, Baros and him might leave. They left a great impression though. Worked their hearts out.

[Rob Ban Fan]

liverpool fc = champions says:
i need a shit
liverpool fc = champions says:
but im too happy to have one lol
Igor Biscan European Champion says:

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">DANNY ELECTRIC</font>

[Danny Electric]

Same with Didi Hamman to, it'll be sad if we let him go.

[Dazz]

Exactly, they are definitley top class guys. I'd like to think I'd be so respectful is Chelsea or Portsmouth did the same. I think I would. I only have a problem with Manchester United but I know loads of class people who support them. It's a game at the end of the day, with millionaire foreigners running the show. But we love it. True fucking fans who support the club, buy the season tickets and shirts. Whether we get fifth or win the champions league. Through thick and thin. Class fans. Enough to shake hands and admit that life isn't so bad. We'll be back whatever happens, every club gets another chance. Been an excellent season, ups and downs. So many downs but the finale was more than I could have ever asked for. Love this thread, respect to you all.


AWWWWW, you big gay. I know what you mean though, I like the fact that most football fans get along with each no matter who they support, I don't really have a problem with any team to be honest. Like I said when you lot beat us Socconor, I shok hands with a scouser and wished them luckin the final, did the same after the first leg too, I am genuinely pleased that others get to feel the joy that I would love to feel.

I was saying over at Rajah's how fickle United fans are who say that they'd support United no matter how bad they were, and no matter how much success Glazers brings they wouldn't care, yet they all snub the lap of honour because they had a shit season. That's not fucking football fans at all, I hate people that leave early, that don't clap their team off the pitch, and that only show interest when they are doing good. United have had it good for so fucking long they can't deal with it now, Liverpool and Chelsea fans have had a pretty shit decade (well pretty much a shit century for us) so they appreciate it more. Football is about so much more then winning, its about supporting your team no matter what, winning is an added bonus. When you lot done us 1-0 at our gaff last year, my Liverpool supporting mate ran up to me the next day and unzipped my jacket whilst saying about 'I bet I know what shirt you don't have on under there' and was shocked I had my Chelsea one on, what a twat, I wear it the day of and the day after EVERY game, regardless of the result, regardless of how well or bad we played or anything else.

There is so much more to football then winning, there really is, I wish that all football fans realise that, but you see from teams attendances when they aren't doing so well that this isn't the case, and it upsets me.

Fucking hell I wrote alot more then I wanted to, I have an exam tomorrow I am supposed to be revising for.

[Danny Electric]

:)

[Danny Electric]

Good luck with your exam mate.

[Dazz]

Thanks, I was gunna revise after the game, thinking it would be easy to do so, but after seeing such a brilliant game of football, I simply cannot be fucked, really is no point revising, I tried half hour ago but I cannot take anything in.

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">yeah Dazz, you're the man.

It was like after the West Brom game where they had stayed up and we were all just joining in singing together and I had random half naked West Brom fans shaking my hand and saying thanks and people were swapping shirts and scarfs with people they'd never met and probably would never see again.

I don't really have a problem with Southampton fans, for me the rivalry is just a bit of banter and I obviously want us to beat them but they're just fans who love their club as much as I love mine and feel the same when they win or lose as I do when Pompey do. (However i fucking hate that lying cunt Redknapp and want them to do badly until he fucks off when they can come back up and we can get on with our rivalry)</font>

[soconnor]

You stupid fuck, your exams are more important than that. Sure you'll do fine though mate. You were so respectful and modest when you lost against us in the champions league it's hard not to like you as a fan. You still won the premier and Carling off us so you can smile. Hope your hairdressing course goes well. All the best lad.

[Rob]

1 - Congrats Liverpool. As soon as I saw Gerrard score, I knew they'd win it. Didn't think Riise would miss a penalty though. I take back what I said about them being undeserving champions because they deserved their win tonight.

2 - As a United fan, I am not gonna lie like others (I'm sure some are truthful). I didn't want Liverpool to win, nor am I happy they won. Fair play to them for winning it and I'm glad their supports get a great night like I did when we beat Bayern but I'd rather they lost still. Oh well.

3 - Harry Kewell is the biggest poof I have ever seen. Never in my life have I seen a player do so little to win a medal. Not just in the final, during the whole champions league. Absolute fucking tosspot. Smicer and Hamann showed him up to no end.

4 - Don't care what anyone says, Dudek meant that last save.

[Danny Electric]

No use revising if you ain't gonna take anything in.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

The most surprising part about the whole thing is just how many, let's be honest here, quite rubbish players Liverpool have in that Champions League side. Traore, Smicer, Baros, Dudek to an extent. Dudek was amazing when he was at Feyenoord and for Liverpool until the Forlan incidents.

Jamie Carragher is ridiculously improved from the utility bit-part full back and midfielder, Phil Neville-style player, he used to be. Just cannot believe how superb he has been this season. He deserves as much credit as John Terry.

Now that Gerrard is going to stay, Liverpool have an excellent basis for a genuinely good side under a great manager. Gerrard and Alonso are potentially the best midfield in the world. Up front, I'm not convinced by Cisse yet, but Morientes is top class. Shift Baros and get someone else in. Sinama-Pongolle looks a great little player.

Looks like Reina is coming in the summer already, but apart from him they do with another centre-back, a full back and a centre forward. Maybe another wide player, and revert Riise to full back again.

Aimar seems to be a strong running rumour. Then Benitez could play his Valencia formation with Gerrard, Alonso and Aimar playing in midfield and one up front.

Anyway, it'd be good if they build on this to become a side challenging for the title.

[Danny Electric]

I am so happy that Benitez is our manager.

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">yeah, during the match I was thinking that about Carragher and how a couple of season ago he was being kept out by Henchoz and occassionaly coming in to play at right or left back. He's had a very good season.</font>

[Danny Electric]

Yeah I agree we need another centre-back, fair play to Sami for all the work over the years he has given us. He's getting on a bit and we need someone there. I'd like another full back to but I think Riise has done great in that position.

I always get the feeling that when Cisse is on the pitch that something will happen. That injury came at the wrong time for him, I still think he'll be great.

[soconnor]

Much respect you Rob. You're a great poster on the board but you're a man united fan so it was hard to connect with you. Glad you can admit we did deserve it because it was a fucking hectic ride. Know Man United will have a great shot at it next year. Now we can all relax and just enjoy it. Know Gerrard and Alonso are amazing, we need another solid centre back and a good left midfield. Also Cisse or Morientes needs to get into top form. A top class forward would be amazing. Shevchenko, you know you want to.

[Rob]

Gerrard, Carragher and Alonso were simply phenominal.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

I think Djibril Cisse is another Guiv'arch. Mountains of goals in the French league, bit of a crap player. The joke about him last year was that his hairstyle added £6 million to his transfer fee: probably true.

Liverpool should take Diouf back. He's a cracking player. Bit of a cunt, but brilliant.

[Rob]

Shevchenko, you know you want to.

What do you want with that dick? He can't even take a penalty! :)

[Rob]

I think Djibril Cisse is another Guiv'arch. Mountains of goals in the French league, bit of a crap player.

Nobody is that bad.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

I just watched some highlights again. this game was just a thing of beauty and easily game of the season. Really helped with the anti-climax of the FA Cup final

[Dazz]

You stupid fuck, your exams are more important than that. Sure you'll do fine though mate. You were so respectful and modest when you lost against us in the champions league it's hard not to like you as a fan. You still won the premier and Carling off us so you can smile. Hope your hairdressing course goes well. All the best lad.

Yes but I cannot revise, even when I try, its a 4pm exam so I have time tomorrow morning. You lol you should see the state of my hair right now :$.

Like I have said all season though, the league is the one I wanted, I would obviously love the Champions League too, but if I had a choice it would have been the league, and we got it, so I am happy. I got to go to Cardiff, Nou Camp, Olympicstadion, St James' Park, Old Trafford, Anfield, and most importantly Fratton Park. I have had many a great experience this season, so I am not really upset that we weren't in the final, it's ours next season.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

I just watched some highlights again. this game was just a thing of beauty and easily game of the season. Really helped with the anti-climax of the FA Cup finalI thought the FA Cup final was a great game, myself. Rooney and Ronaldo showed just how scarily good they are on the big occasion.

Two great finals to round the season off. It's a pity the Lions were so shit on Monday.

[Dazz]

The Duck laughed at me like five years ago when I said Carragher should be right back ahead of Gary Neville, and I still stick by what I said. I have always thought he was class.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

To be fair, Gary Neville is a better right back than him. Carragher has come into his own as a centre-back, he belongs there as a pure defender.

Gary Neville, for all the shit he gets, is a brilliant full back.

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">I've got my doubts about Cisse too but we'll wait and see.

If I was a Liverpool fan I wouldn't take Diouf back on principal, fucking loathsome cunt. I'd fuck him off to Spain or somewhere, just to get rid of him. He's a good player but he's a horrible person.

Thats something that really fucks me off about Bolton fans. Yes, fair enough he's a good player but the way they're so far up his arse going on about how pathetic the way he's treated is and giving it all the "we're not worthy" and egging him on when he dives and cheats.

I can honestly say if he played for us I wouldn't cheer the cunt. I wouldn't boo him because I don't boo Pompey players but I wouldn't cheer the cunt (unless he scored but i cant help that :mad: )</font>

[packt up]

Shev was good tonight Dazz sheesh whats a man got to do to impress you. His goal was pretty comfortably level I thought and he set up the second.

Alonso is class and has been throughout the season. And I also agree that Smicer and Baros gave their all. Particularly Baros who slaved away when the going wasn't quite so good for Liverpool. And a great way for Smicer to sign off.

[Rob]

Same with Didi Hamman to, it'll be sad if we let him go.

Apparently, he has signed a deal or will be signing one within a week with Bolton.

[Karlsberg]

I aint the biggest liverpool fan by any means but i offer my congratulations. I just hope your fans cherish this and dont take it for granted remember many clubs including my own will never have this experience.

[Danny Electric]

I would have liked if he stayed, I think he's a great player to have on the bench and he's done great for us.

[Danny Electric]

I aint the biggest liverpool fan by any means but i offer my congratulations. I just hope your fans cherish this and dont take it for granted remember many clubs including my own will never have this experience.

Have faith in Stevie Bruce :)

[Dazz]

To be fair, Gary Neville is a better right back than him. Carragher has come into his own as a centre-back, he belongs there as a pure defender.

Gary Neville, for all the shit he gets, is a brilliant full back.

Wayne Bridge is as good as Gary Neville, and they are both not worthy of being first choice defenders. Neville always has someone good inside him, and I absolutely hate the way they both don't pick up the wide man till he has the ball, and it then gives them time to run at them, cross it or do something else. I seriously don't see Gary Neville as a great right back, I see him as a Carlos like player, average at the back, but a helluva lot better attacking, Gary Neville's crosses and passing is the only thing thats that good about his game. And his leadership skills but I am talking purely about on the actual football ability

[packt up]

I think Djibril Cisse is another Guiv'arch.

He scored against Liverpool :y:

Open goal and he just about got it in off the post. Also went on to lose 4-1. Good times.

[Dazz]

He had a quality shot against us in October that either hit the post or went just wide, think it went just wide, but he was playing really well that game. I like him.

[Rob]

I'm not sold on Gerrard staying at Liverpool now. They are hardly going to do any better than this and without 4 or 5 players, they won't challenge for the league. Maybe he thinks this is his Liverpool peak and wants to move on to Man United.

Okay, the last part was a dream.

[Karlsberg]

Have faith in Stevie Bruce :)


I have faith in bruce but i am realistic and the best we can probably achieve is a uefa cup spot.

Since liverpool fans are in a good mood whats are your opinions of heskey

[Dazz]

I'm not sold on Gerrard staying at Liverpool now. They are hardly going to do any better than this and without 4 or 5 players, they won't challenge for the league. Maybe he thinks this is his Liverpool peak and wants to move on to Man United.

Okay, the last part was a dream.

I said to my mates at the start of the match that I think that Gerrards decision to stay wouldn't be influenced on tonights game. Rafa will sit him down, ask him to wait till July when the transfers have largely been done, and then try to persaude him to stay. If Gerrard leaves before the end of July I will be shocked.

[Danny Electric]

I have faith in bruce but i am realistic and the best we can probably achieve is a uefa cup spot.

Since liverpool fans are in a good mood whats are your opinions of heskey

Seriously, he falls down to easy but he always gave a good show and his hold up play was awesome. I have nothinga gainst him and I'm happy that he's done well at your place.

[Karlsberg]

Dazz do you reckon chelsea will let us have forsell

[Dazz]

RBF reckons Pompey want him for 3.5 Million. I hope neither of you get him, I love him, he is class, if we loan him out I hope it's only till January, and then when injuries take their toll we'll have him around.

Hope we don't sell him.

[Karlsberg]

what about parker then

[Dazz]

He is as good as gone to Everton, I'd be suprised if that wasn't wrapped up soon, Jose wants him to stay, but will let him leave. He has been in talks with them and will go there for £6million soon, such a shame, he could have been the next Makelele

On other news I just remembered that me and Fabien Barthez (The poster on here obviously) had a £20 bet on who would win the Champions League I picked Juve and he picked Milan, so now I don't owe him shit :cool:

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Well theres a torrent of the first half up:

http://www.torrentspy.com/search.asp?mode=torrentdetails&id=309328

They'll probably up the 2nd half later.

Also, good to see Dazz's reaction as I just read the response of one Chelse fan on skysports.com:

What can you say, the best team lost. Should Liverpool be allowed to defend it- NO. Rules are rules. they were not good enough to finish in a Champions League spot and were nearly 40 points behind the real Champions. Let them skulk in the Uefa Cup where they belong with the other second rate teams.

[Jonster]

Good to see it Jonster, you are a rubbish football fan by your own admission, but it was such a good game to get into.
Completely true :y:
Definately glad I watched it though.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Liverpool were linked with Stelios the other day, with Diouf going the other way to Bolton. Dunno about that :meh:

I dunno if they'll get Aimar cause since Ranieri left Valencia he's been playing again from what I understand. He would be a top player for them though.

Maybe they'll buy Owen back, lol :$

[Dazz]

Well theres a torrent of the first half up:

http://www.torrentspy.com/search.asp?mode=torrentdetails&id=309328

They'll probably up the 2nd half later.

Also, good to see Dazz's reaction as I just read the response of one Chelse fan on skysports.com:

What can you say, the best team lost. Should Liverpool be allowed to defend it- NO. Rules are rules. they were not good enough to finish in a Champions League spot and were nearly 40 points behind the real Champions. Let them skulk in the Uefa Cup where they belong with the other second rate teams.

If I wasn't on a 56.6K modem I'd download that :(

And I hate the views of most Chelsea fans, I can see why people don't like us with idiots who say stuff like mentioned above. That Liverpool banner said it all 'Form is temporary, Class is permanent', not only because they are the Champions of Europe but also because of the teams they have beaten shows that the competition will be devalued next year without them. The team that wins the competition isn't as deserved as a team that comes fourth in their domestic league? How would that make sense.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

2nd half:

http://www.torrentspy.com/search.asp?mode=torrentdetails&id=310386

ET and penalties to go

[Wengerland]

I have faith in bruce but i am realistic and the best we can probably achieve is a uefa cup spot.

Since liverpool fans are in a good mood whats are your opinions of heskey

This is coming from a Leicester fan, but he's the man. Liverpool have been one of my favoured premiership sides though, and i always defended him then, they were a much better side with him and Owen, rather than Owen and Baros or whatever.

I know he was one of Birmingham's best players this season and he deserves it, top professional. He helped Leicester through administration and played for the same junior team as me, a good few years ahead of me but there's a match report and picture of him from when he was there in the bar.

As for Aimar, it would be great to see him in the premiership, have to see if Valencia's new manager rates him but he only takes over in the summer. He almost scored an amazing goal on Sunday though, did that cross which Kewell and Cristiano Ronaldo, in the Millwall cup final, have done, it went over the keeper, hit the inside of the post and bounced along the line and out :'(

[PSIcological]

just a few points

first off, well done liverpool. They won the champions league on merit and hard graft, and completely deserved it.

secondly, is it just me who thinks that gerrard is the most overrated tosser on the face of the earth. Just look at the facts. If Shevchenko had scored his penalty, its likely that Gerrard would have been next for liverpool. Then whats the odds he would have missed? He's definitely quite inconsistent from the spot. If he'd missed and milan had won, then he would definitely have gone off to chelsea. But since they won, Liverpool are suddenly still good enough for him, the same man who scored an own goal against chelsea in the league cup and only performs when he wants to show the fans he still loves liverpool. maybe i'm being harsh but i really cannot stand him at the moment.

Then last but definitely not least, c'mon the neale cooper! :)

[Danny Electric]

Stevie G apart from a few games at the end of the season has always given his all for this football club so that's complete crap.

[Dazz]

Also, good to see Dazz's reaction as I just read the response of one Chelse fan on skysports.com:

What can you say, the best team lost. Should Liverpool be allowed to defend it- NO. Rules are rules. they were not good enough to finish in a Champions League spot and were nearly 40 points behind the real Champions. Let them skulk in the Uefa Cup where they belong with the other second rate teams.

http://www.cfc-net.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7762

:$

[El Capitano Gatisto]

The winners should always be allowed to defend their trophy. UEFA have fucked themslves over because they never thought this would happen again. Luckily for them the last time it happened, it happened with Real Madrid, since Madrid have the Spanish FA in their pockets and the decision was made for UEFA.

Liverpool should be in it next year, and they will be, I'm fairly certain.

[Dazz]

Yeah I can't see them not in it, and UEFA should chuck out Everton and put Liverpool in if they really don't want a fifth English team there. It's their competition not the FA's. Liverpool have got to be in it regardless IMO, no way the holders cannot defend their title, that really would devalue the competition.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Everton should be in it. They played all season for their place knowing 4th position would get it. It cannot be taken away from them.

Liverpool simply have to be let in. Stick them in the qualifiers, give a few smaller teams a boost, the chance to play the European champions.

[Dazz]

I am just saying that IF we couldn't have a fifth team in it, UEFA should over rule the FA and let Liverpool in it. Liverpool are much more worthy of a Champions League place.

They both deserve it, I amjust saying though that if it had to be one, it would be criminal not to let it be Liverpool. I think half the reason the F.A picked Everton to go in it was because they were sure that if Liverpool won it UEFA would still let them in.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

UEFA will let them in. If they denied Everton a place it would be disgusting. They should both be there, but if one has to be sacrificed it has to be Liverpool because those were the existing rules.

But neither have to be.

[Dazz]

I am also very sure that UEFA will let them in, but come on, from UEFA's point of view it will definitely devalue the competition for them not to be in it. I hope that they say that they will make an exception next season, and after that if this event happens again then the 4th place team don't qualify.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

You can't do that, it's not fair giving the league teams a target to play for then make it dependent on what other teams do. Everton are out buying players now based on the fact they have a Champions League season ahead. It wouldn't be fair for a club to play all season and win a place, only to have it taken away because of what some other club does in an unrelated competition. The competitiveness of the league has to be protected. The simple matter is that a place should always be open for the winners of the tournament.

[Ogen]

Liverpool clearly should be allowed defend it but if it came down to Everton or them then Everton have to go in. They've worked harder for it fairness over a whole leauge season. It'll be fairly stupid have 25% of the premiership in it next year but it really has to be done.

[Dazz]

Well IF it had to be one or the other, Everton can go fuck themselves.

Whoever wins the Champions League next season will always wonder if they'd have done it if the Champions of Europe were there defending their crown. It would seriously devalue the competition, if Everton got to the quarters and played us and we won, I'd be happy, sure, but I'd still wonder if we'd be in the semi's if it was Liverpool we had to face. It takes something away from the competition, like we both say, Liverpool will be allowed in, just IF they weren't, it'd be in UEFA's interests to let the scouse in.

I don't think you can take it away from Everton, but then you can't from Liverpool either, UEFA have fucked up and must act very quickly.

If there is going to be any play-off at all between Liverpool and another team, it should be Liverpool and Everton. They should battle out against each other for the last English spot.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

No, fuck that. Everton earned their spot, they played a Premiership season for it.

[Dazz]

Oh that's right and Liverpool didn't earn their spot. They both earned the spot, they both deserve it, but if one can't get in it should be Everton, UEFA shouldn't have let the FA make the choice, you're right though, they can't now tell Everton they can't goin, so a fairer way would be a play off between the two sides, for our fourth spot.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

No, there shouldn't be a play off. Everton have already qualified. What can you not grasp about that concept? Everton's place is theirs, it has nothing to do with Liverpool.

[Dazz]

The fact that if it came to Liverpool not being in it at all it would be ludicrus. They cannot not be in it, someones place has to be contested, and if UEFA only want four English teams in it then it's gotta be Everton's.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Nope, can't shift the posts now. It would have to be Liverpool's. If Everton were shifted out, it'd make me sick.

[Dazz]

If the Champions of Europe couldn't defend their crown because UEFA only let four teams in, I would be equally as disgusted as you would be if Everton were 'shifted out'.

[packt up]

If Everton were dropped instead of Liverpool I'd be fucking pissed because noone deserves it more than them. To do what they have done this season is amazing. Liverpool had a great run in the biggest cup competition. Everton got it done week in week out in the League on a transfer budget swallowed up by probably a months wages of Roy Keane. David Moyes is the bigger miracle worker here.

I'm not belittling Liverpools achievement because obviously its fantastic and I've already said I'm as happy as a non Liverpool supporter can be for them but Everton completely and utterly deserve to be in there. If they get booted out for Liverpool Everton will never ever let this rest. The rules as shitty as they are were there and you can't just change them due to extreme circumstances at the cost of Everton. I agree there must be some sort of comprimise to allow Liverpool in and hopefully that can be found.

[Rob]

Oh that's right and Liverpool didn't earn their spot. They both earned the spot, they both deserve it, but if one can't get in it should be Everton, UEFA shouldn't have let the FA make the choice, you're right though, they can't now tell Everton they can't goin, so a fairer way would be a play off between the two sides, for our fourth spot.

Why don't they just kick out Chelsea? Everton and Liverpool earnt their spots just as much as they did. UEFA fucked up and now they have to fix it. They'll probably take away a spot from a lower ranked league and enter more teams from that league into the UEFA cup.

[Dazz]

Because Chelsea are the Champions of England you sye. Everton are in the lowest qualifying position and so they should be the team in question.

[Rob]

At the end of the day, everyone knew the top 4 qualify so Everton deserve their spot as much as Chelsea, Arsenal and Man U. It was just on the BBC news that apparently UEFA's webiste says the champions gain automatic qualification.

[yianni]

LOL @ Rivaldo celebrating Olympiakos winning the Greek league the other day:

http://www.sport.gr/football/hellas05/050526/photo2/12.jpg

He's getting more Greek by the day. :lol:

[yianni]

Dunno if any lads have seen this but

http://tinypic.com/5dougk

:lol:

[Wengerland]

Everton shouldn't be kicked out, they've got just as much right to be there as Liverpool. When you consider that Brazil have to qualify for the World Cup and then Liverpool failing to finish in a qualifying position over 38 games then Everton deserve it more. Everton missed out after winning the league because of the Heysel ban, it wouldn't be fair to chuck them out again.

If TNS are serious about offering Liverpool a play-off game for their spot in qualifying then i'd take that. Should be an easy win for Liverpool and if it's played at the Millenium Stadium as they are indicating then TNS would get more gate receipts than if they played someone from another small country.

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">the FAW aren't allowing the TNS thing :(

anyway, a few weeks back i posted about how my mate at college who runs a paintball site and didn't have a clue about football had had the Liverpool team in after they played us and had shot Gerrard in the arse. I was just looking around and I found some pictures of it, although theres none of him getting shot :(
</font>

http://www.paintballingworld.com/paintballingworld/Liverpool%20fc%20paintball.htm

[Dazz]

Everton shouldn't be kicked out, they've got just as much right to be there as Liverpool. When you consider that Brazil have to qualify for the World Cup and then Liverpool failing to finish in a qualifying position over 38 games then Everton deserve it more. Everton missed out after winning the league because of the Heysel ban, it wouldn't be fair to chuck them out again.



Bollocks to the 'they were screwed because of Heysel', like anyone would give us pity that 50 years ago the F.A forced us to not enter the European Cup because they had a dispute with UEFA. Whats happened in the past has happened, it doesn't matter now, you canot take pity on something that happened 20 years ago.

[The Mackem]

Yes, you can.

[Wengerland]

Well whatever, Everton should be there. Liverpool being a better side and club doesn't come into it when they finish 5th.

[The Mackem]

You know thinking about it, Sunderland are champions, maybe they should be entered instead of Everton and Liverpool.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Inter Milan's place should be given to Liverpool.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Roy Carroll has been released.

Any comments about him releasing the ball into his own net against Spurs are entirely welcome.

[The Mask]

thank fuck. guarenteed first team football my fucking arse.

[Rob]

Roy Carroll has been released.

Any comments about him releasing the ball into his own net against Spurs are entirely welcome.

If I've said it once, I've said it a million times... Roy Carroll is a cunt.

[packt up]

At the end of the day he was no where near good enough for Man U.

[packt up]

Also England team vs USA:

England team: James, G Johnson, Brown, Campbell, A Cole, J Cole, Jenas, Carrick, Richardson, Crouch, A Johnson.

Jobber central :y:

[Rob Ban Fan]

<Font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">it says on the BBC site that the USA are fielding a weakened team too :| whats the fucking point, who really wants to see England's D team vs America Reserves?</font>

[yianni]

Lads, who do you think United should sign as a keeper?

I have randomly the following names being linked
1) Buffon - 35m offer already been done according to tomorrows papers.
2) Robinson - Fatty for 10m.
3) Casillas
4) Frey
5) Hildebrand

Realistically why the fuck would Buffon or Casillas bail? Robinson would be good - I reckon Cudicini though.

[packt up]

United have no chance in signing either Buffon or Casillas given their financial state. Robinson is the goods - I've always said Arsenal or Man U should have gotten in their before Tottenham. Frey is good and is a possibility I guess. Doubt Chelsea would sell Cudicini to their rivals - if he leaves at all it will be abroad. As a Newcastle fan I fear they may sell Given and I think thats who they'll get if they sign anyone.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Hildebrand is on a free transfer this summer. I will not, could not, understand it if a top team does not give him a go on a free.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

If they don't go for Hildebrand realistically I can't see how Shay Given could turn them down.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Very loyal, loves Newcastle. He should go, he belongs at a better team. He's just coming to his peak now, he could spend 4 or 5 years with a top team. Manchester United would be tough to score against with Given in nets.

[Wengerland]

Hildebrand signed a new deal in the end didn't he? Very good keeper anyway.

Casillas's contract talks are meant to have stalled, so i guess United could make an effort for him aswell.

Anyway, Crouch is out of the England game with an ankle injury i think, Alan Smith is meant to be replacing him.

[Wengerland]

Oh yeah, and Van der Vaart is going to Hamburg for £4.5m :|

He's meant to have an attitude problem but i'm certain he can do better than that.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Very loyal, loves Newcastle. He should go, he belongs at a better team. He's just coming to his peak now, he could spend 4 or 5 years with a top team. Manchester United would be tough to score against with Given in nets.

Well it's not as if he's causing a ruckus trying to get out. But as you say he is loyal, so for him to come out and say some of the stuff he's said towards the end of the season (i.e. being disappointed, wanting to win trophies etc) I'd take as a sign he's ready to up sticks (pun not intended). He's already been there what, 8 years now? I don't think the Newcastle fans would begrudge him a move if it comes down to it, to be honest.

[Rob]

Apparently, Real Madrid are gonna be making an offer for Buffon this summer.

[Ogen]

So wheres Casilas meant to be off to then if they want Buffon

[Rob]

That's the big question

[packt up]

BBC Sport says that it looks increasingly likely that Liverpool will be given a place straight into the Champions League next season probably at the expense of Fenerbache. The qualifiers clash with some other committment that Liverpool had I think the European Super Cup. Good news all round I believe.

[toxic rooster]

Why Fenerbahce?

I'd say if they're going to kick a team out, let them kick out Inter

[packt up]

I was thinking that too. I have no idea where Fenerbahce came from to be honest. But heres the link for everyone:Reds getting in? (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/4590899.stm)

[Mr. Monday Morning]

I think it's because Turkey have the lowest ranked league out of those that are given automatic qualifying spots.

[toxic rooster]

That would make sense. Are they the lowest/only team to qualify from Turkey?

[El Capitano Gatisto]

They should boot Inter Milan out and give Liverpool the place. The Italians need to be punished properly for the crowd trouble.

[Cactus Sid]

No, I think Turkey get 2 places, top team qualifies automatically.

I haven't been around since last Monday, I don't think I need to say anything more about Wednesday that hasn't already been said, just the most amazing night, and for once, and I honestly mean this, I wasn't negative at half time, and genuinly believed we could do it.

In Rafa we trust. Absolutely amazing.

Also, I hope Harry Kewell has his legs broken so he knows what its like when something really does "snap"

[Cactus Sid]

They should boot Inter Milan out and give Liverpool the place. The Italians need to be punished properly for the crowd trouble.

Couldn't agree more.

Frankly, the very fact that AC fans behaved so well, both after they were beaten on Wednesday and through the whole Inter thing, shows that the Inter fans need to be punished severely.

I'm not sure exactly how they should sort out this whole thing, but I do think it is ridiculously backward that they hadn't thought of this possibility in the past. Everton deserve the Champions League spot and it shouldn't be taken away from them, just like it shouldn't have been taken away from the Spanish club when the same thing happened with Real.

[toxic rooster]

So Fener finished second in Turkey then?

[Mr. Monday Morning]

No Fenerbahce are champions. As it stands they go through to the group stages automatically, same as Chelsea and Arsenal. The idea is to give that spot to Liverpool and put Fenerbahce into the qualifying rounds. Which the Turks are a bit pissed about.

[toxic rooster]

Ah k, and the team that finished second in turkey is in the qualifiers too anyway?

I see now

[Wengerland]

Awesome League One play-off final, finished 4-2 to Sheffield Wednesday after extra time.

[LK]

Roy Carroll has been released
In the end he simply wasn't good enough.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Awesome League One play-off final, finished 4-2 to Sheffield Wednesday after extra time.

Felt a bit sorry for Hartlepool really, two dipshit mistakes and it cost them the game :-\

West Ham - Preston has a lot to live up to.

[Rob]

2 for 2 in play off predictions.

Come on Preston!

And look who finished top scorer in La Liga too :D

[Rob]

Since you pussied out of my bet already you'd do well to not make any predictions :roll:

Just noticed this. Make it £50 and Give me a deadline for when Hoddle can leave and I'll take it (I don't think he'll be there a year one way or another)

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Alright £50, if he stays past December 31st

[Rob]

January 31?

[LK]

Come on Preston. Don't like West Ham at all and I've actualy got a Preston shirt som come on Preston.

Oh and Congrats to Diego for last night. I would say Villiarreal could be a bit of a suprise package next season in the Champs League. Some of the times I have seen them, they have played some magic football.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

They'll probably lose Riquelme this summer.

[Rob]

They will certainly lose Riquelme this summer as he is going back to Barca and they can't afford his wages to keep him.

[LK]

Yeah that will be a big blow to them. Riquelme's an awesome player.

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">Bobby Zamora you bastard.</font>

[Mr. Monday Morning]

January 31?

:wtf: k

[Wengerland]

Well done West Ham, were the better side but it was a poor game.

Riquelme and Saviola will both be allowed to leave by Barça to get some money and more non-EU spaces.

[Danny Electric]

Barcelona want to sell Riquelme and Villareal can't afford his wages, according to Skysports.com they want to sell him as part of a deal with Saviola.

[Rob]

:wtf: k

I just thought it might as well be the end of the transfer window for Premiership teams. Anyway, if I win, I want it all in 50p's :D

[packt up]

lol Figo's been released apparently. Lets see all these ridiculous Tottenham stories come up again.

Good to see Newcastle interested in Van Buyten he looked like a good defender (whilst at Man City who were shambolic defensively at the time) though I feel its more in the full backs that we need to strengthen. I believe hes just a centre back.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Last I saw it was more likely Figo'd go to Liverpool :$

[Wengerland]

ahahaha have it Figo you cunt.

Looks like Darren Bent has joined Charlton.

[The Mackem]

Wolves have rejected a bid from Sunderland for Kenny Miller...after all those player we gave them pfft!

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">rumour is we're close to signing Andy O'Brien :cool::cool::cool::cool:!!!!!!!</font>

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">the ":cool::cool::cool::cool:!!!!!!!!" was because we will be able to play three of Dazz's favourite defenders

Griffin de Zeeuw O'Brien Taylor

</font>

[packt up]

lol RBF ({) he's terrible seriously bad. But if it makes Dazz angry then its worth it :cool:

Also SHOCK HORROR Chelsea Cole and Mourinho guilty. Well I for one never suspected. "Unprescedented" fines on the way so probably like a million for Chelsea and two weeks wages for Cole and Mourinho :roll:

[toxic rooster]

Why the fuck do they fine people that have so much money?

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Wolves have rejected a bid from Sunderland for Kenny Miller...after all those player we gave them pfft!

No sodding way is Miller worth the same price as Jody Craddock :mad: :rant:

[packt up]

COS NOW NO ONE WILL EVER DO IT AGAIN WEE GOONER - particularly not Chelsea cos they are poor :(

[Karlsberg]

Apparently us and charlton have made offers for vladamir smicer

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Traore's going to be given a new deal :|

[Team Sheep]

C'mon Owen, sign for the Toon. We're gonna' have a good season I can sense it :cool:

[Cactus Sid]

Traore's going to be given a new deal :|

I really don't see the problem in giving him a new contract, he's played really well at times this season

[Danny Electric]

:|

[El Capitano Gatisto]

I really would love to see Figo in the Premiership for a couple of seasons. Hopefully not at Spurs, preferably at a good side.

[packt up]

I really don't see the problem in giving him a new contract, he's played really well at times this season

Really well on occasion as well as fucking terrible on others.

[Wengerland]

Liverpool are in talks with Zenden too.

Traore would be decent backup, i wouldn't want him in the first choice eleven though.

[Danny Electric]

Traore is a liabaility and a weak link.

[Cactus Sid]

Liverpool are in talks with Zenden too.

Traore would be decent backup, i wouldn't want him in the first choice eleven though.

I agree with that 100%

Traore has shown touches of brilliance at times, he has the ability to put in some absolutely superb challenges and is good in the air, unfortunatly at the same time he can be incredibly clumsy and his positional sense is lacking. The second half of this season he has been excellent, but I would certainly like to see someone ahead of him, even if it means moving Riise back and bringing in another left sided midfielder....

I don't want that to be Zenden.

Zenden is a good player, he's creative and has excellent passing, but we already have 2 players like that in the centre of midfield, and I think we need 2 proper speedy wingers next season.

If we do go ahead with Morientes and Cisse up front, we have one player who is awesome in the air, who can get on the end of crosses, and another who is quick and can get in behind the defence, so we really need wingers.

I know we've been linked to Joaquin (although he's probably Real bound) and he'd be perfect, especially if we had Garcia on the left. Hell, SWP would be a good right winger to have. We just need something special on the wings

[Mr. Monday Morning]

You'd have to spend your entire budget to get Joaquin

[Wengerland]

I'd rather you played Cisse and Morientes too, but should Aimar arrive it's really unlikely that all 3 would start as you don't leave Gerrard or Alonso out as you've got one of the best central midfield pairings in the world in those two.

You'd have to be in the champions league to get Joaquin as he could get it by just staying with Betis now, and as Adam said, he'd be costly. I'd snap Zenden up if he's alright to compete with Riise or someone else, as he's a good player and free, or you could give Kewell another chance.

Milito's a sound defender, but if you just move Riise back or get Evra at left back then the defence with Hyypia in would be fine. The goalkeeping thing is the main area, Kirkland and Dudek on their day are both good keepers but one is always injured and the other is inconsistent, but Carson is good enough to be at least second choice so you could let both go and get Reina, i'm not sure about that myself.

I hope you get SWP, but he'd be pretty costly and Reina and Milito will cost about £12m at least between them, not sure how much you'd get for Dudek and Kirkland, so SWP could be out of range, could just go for Figo instead.

[Cactus Sid]

Its hard to say whats gonna happen because its all about who we sell first, I've heard Rafa has quite a kitty if we are accepted into the Champions League.

The goalkeeper situation is strange, because I can't see us having 4 quality keepers on the books. I can't see Dudek playing second fiddle to Reina, so my guess is he's off. Kirkland's supposed to be going to West Brom on loan for the season as well. Mind you, everything could change, because we've released Luzi and Harrison. The talk on the LFC board is using Dudek has a make weight for a bid for Dirk Kuijt but I'm not so sure.

Diouf is gone, probably for about 3 million, Cheryou is bound to be off to Marseille or wherever, but we wont get much more than a million for him. Diao will probably go as well.

Then we have the maybe's.

Now, I have a feeling that if Didi does leave (and I have a strong suspicion that he will) we might bring Alou Diarra back. Played brilliant for Lens and has broken into the French National side, so he mau come back. On the other hand, if Rafa has no plans for him, his stock will have risen in France, so he could be worth a couple of mill.

Dudek may leave, but again, it wont be for more than 2, 2 and a half million. Baros may go, probably for around 5 million, maybe Kewell off, but no-one knows how much we'd get for him.

We are releasing or probably releasing, Smicer, Pellegrino and Didi, which'll save us a 100,000 a week on wages.

So, assuming all of those players left, we'd get about....£15 million maybe.

Then we can look at buying players.

The thing about Aimar.....is he's a Rafa player. Benitez loves the idea of 4-5-1, and Aimar is one of the best players in the world for that position behind the strikers. But I just don't think 4-5-1 works in the Premiership. Its down to Rafa to think, does our European style work in the Premiership? And last season showed that it doesn't. So I think he may think twice about signing Aimar.

I think Joaquin is gonna go to Madrid anyway, there was just something on the LFC website about him maybe signing from us, from a fairly good source usually, it was basically him saying he loved Benitez and thought that Liverpool played a great style of football, nothing to suggest he'd sign for us though.

Milito and Evra would be great additions, plus we could probably get them both cheap (ish) considering Zaragoza and Monaco have money problems. At least, thats the theory.

We were linked with Figo back in January, so its a possibility. I wouldn't be disappointed if we signed him, although it might push Luis Garcia out of the side, which would make me cry :'(

We'll have to wait and see, there are so many factors to consider, and things to happen before you can say what we need, and what we'll have to get it.

Suffice to say, I think Merseyside will be the busiest place for transfers this summer.

[Danny Electric]

I don't know about Luis Garcia, I'm still undecided. His control lets him down alot, he's sloppy with his passes and sometimes he doesn't look up quick enough.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Got a funny feeling Liverpool might enter the bidding for Robbie Keane, if it kicks off. Don't know why, I can just see it happening.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

And Liverpool can't afford Joaquin, unless Benitiz pulls another fast one and gets him for a ridiculous knock-down price like he did Xabi Alonso. Joaquin is in no hurry to leave Betis, they don't want to sell him, and Chelsea opened the bidding at £24 million.

But Real Sociedad were quoting £30 million for Alonso before there was any talk of Liverpool getting him, and it was all Manchester United or Real Madrid.

[Dazz]

RBF, O'brien is absolute shit, and Pompey are going down.

Also, I used to have nightmares about Figo smashing the fuck out of me in dark alleys :$, he looks so scary its beyond true, I really think he looks so fucking hard, I'd really hate to see him in a dark alley

[Mr. Monday Morning]

I bet you admire his hair as well

[Dazz]

I used actually, used to style it similar to his for abit :p

[Cactus Sid]

we might bring Alou Diarra back.

Lens are taking up an option to sign him for 3 million Euros, so whats that..... 2 million???

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Just about £2m yeah

[The Mackem]

Dazz bringing up people's hair again.

At the moment Sunderland seem to be being linked to every promising player in the country but as yet no what I would class seasoned Premiership players, which are a necessity. I think we need somebody who is pushing 30 and has played in the Premiership for the last 5 plus years of his career with proven quality otherwise we are going to have a load of kids turning out against some good teams.

[packt up]

Hey Mackem you should get in there for Lee Bowyer he fits your description perfectly ;)

[packt up]

_edit_ double post

[Rob Ban Fan]

RBF, O'brien is absolute shit, and Pompey are going down.


<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">Jealous much? He shits all over your no mark shite defenders.

Why don't you cry about it some more, Dazz?

:'( <--- Dazz</font>

[El Capitano Gatisto]

O'Brien isn't too bad. Good defender. Not a great footballer or anything, but he's ugly and gets in the way. Newcastle are stupid.

[packt up]

Nah ECG O'brien is really bad nowadays. I always thought he was alright maybe two seasons. This season just gone though he was a complete liability I can remember at least 3 or 4 occasions where his mistakes led to goals. His close control is terrible and too often it let him down and he handed the ball to the opposition on the edge of our box.

Bramble and Boumsong are a good bet for next season. All the better if we can throw Van Buyten in there too.

And yeah he is fucking ugly.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

O'Brien is fine. Boumsong isn't much cop for whatever ridiculous amount Newcastle paid for him. To suggest O'Brien has caused some goals to be given away through mistakes and seconds later type that Bramble would be a good bet is laughable, considering Titus Bramble is the single biggest lump of shambolic positioning sense and concentration lapses ever seen in a big black defender. And that's saying something.

Van Buyten is average. Newcastle will pay over the odds for him, and will have gotten rid of 2 of their better professionials in O'Brien and Hughes, and have another mercenary in the side. Boumsong and Van Buyten are a couple of mercenaries, and all through the rest of the side are a pile of wankers who will never achieve anything in football because they are too thick and too lazy.

Souness needs to address that, instead of selling off good, solid players and replacing them with over-priced foreigners who'll move on when a tasty signing-on fee is waved in front of them.

[Rob Ban Fan]

http://gfx.dagbladet.no/sport/2004/01/11/tryne.jpg

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">would John Terry do that, Dazz?

No he wouldn't and you know it. He'd cry like the little bitch he is and then go and get pissed at an airport with Jody Morris.

":'("</font>

[Y2Ant]

Bramble had started to play alright like a few weeks before he got injured, Boumsong looked really dodgy at first but toward the end of the season played well, especially in the FA Cup semifinal against united, O'Brien has just been complete shit this season, every time I see him he always fucks something up.

Theres a few City fans at work that all say how they wished they had kept Van Buyten since he went there on loan, so hopefully he will be decent, with Bramble and Boumsong aswell as him, we should be ok in central defence. Babayaro needs to stay healthy all season and we will be sorted at left back, Carr i'm starting to have doubts about though.

The only thing we need IMO is a striker or two, with kluivert (and soon Bellamy) gone, Ameobi doesn't deserve a place in the starting lineup.

Butt, Bowyer and (unless he gets his act together and stays healthy all season) Dyer all need to go, getting rid of Robert was a step in the right direction. N'Zogbia, Milner and Ambrose are all class and all deserve a run in the first team, Faye is a decent holding player and Jenas is solid too.

If we bring in a couple of decent players, we should do pretty well, on paper. Top 10 finish at the very least, anything less isn't good enough :mad:

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Newcastle have a crap side, to be honest. I really envisaged them struggling last season, and I don't that will change much this time around. Terrible squad, awful manager = bad news.

[Cactus Sid]

Newcastle have a crap side, to be honest. I really envisaged them struggling last season, and I don't that will change much this time around. Terrible squad, awful manager = bad news.

I was looking at the Newcastle team on Pro Evo earlier (not as a guide but just looking at the names) and it is utter shite. Without serious improvements they wont finish in the top half again for a long time

[packt up]

Y2ant pretty much summed up most of what I feel. Bramble is starting to get his act together and Im not denying he can be shocking at time ECG but before his injury he was putting in some top quality performances. Certainly better anything that "England International" Luke Young was pulling out of his ass. Boumsong too looked shady but has slowly improved and if they both played together their performances improved no end. If they both can stay fit I feel fairly confident.

I echo the relative confidence in Babayaro and doubts over Carr. Seriously think Taylor might be a better bet at right back he gets stuck in and has no fear of anyone. Carr has more and more looked poor positionally and terrible with distribution.

A striker is needed too as Y2ant mentioned (yeah you're the man) although I was a Robert fan and still am :p.

And I have confidence that Newcastle as terrible as we are, and we are bad, can get no worse. Last season was a huge underperformance - no way are we the 14th best team in the Premiership. I think Souness is an idiot most of the time and hopefully we can get someone better in but I doubt even Souness could take us any lower than 14th. *fingers crossed*

I heard good things about Van Buyten, he looked quality at Man City and has just been voted into the Bundesliga team of the season so he cant be all bad.

[Cactus Sid]

Oh yeah

Just saw this on the Liverpool website

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N149025050602-1427.htm

Nice to see they're not bitter, I would've happily supported Chelsea in the final....

[packt up]

LOL good times.

[toxic rooster]

Paul Mcgoochan

If Liverpool win, I'm going to avoid every newspaper and tv for the next 3 months.

[Cactus Sid]

:D

[packt up]

Bye Bye Kluivert :wave: don't let your shit footballing skills hit you on the way out. Off to Valencia apparently.

[packt up]

Should probably qualify that to "lazy arse" rather than "shit footballing skills" - I'm sure he hasnt turned into a terrible player in one season he was just fucking lazy and never did anything.

[The Mackem]

lol poor Dazz

[Dazz]

http://gfx.dagbladet.no/sport/2004/01/11/tryne.jpg

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">would John Terry do that, Dazz?

No he wouldn't and you know it. He'd cry like the little bitch he is and then go and get pissed at an airport with Jody Morris.

":'("</font>

Do you not remember that insane block that Huth did near the end of the season, I cannot remember for the life of me who it was against, but it was at our gaff infront of the Shed end, and someone launched a volley and Huth jumped into the way of it and it hit him sqaure in the face, he was on the floor for literally two seconds before getting up and getting on with it. I love Huth, he has just snubbed Shalke, he snubbed Munich in January too, he is top, plus him driving that vehicle round Stamford Bridge after we won the league was great. I think I am gunna get 'HUUUUUTH 29' on the back of my Chelsea shirt next year. God Bless Robert Huth, the big angry nazi.

No if's, no but's
He'll trample on your nuts
Robert Huth, Robert Huth.

When Terry blocks a ball it's normally with his arm, he is gunna get found out soon, it always looks like it's his chest/stomach but it rarely is.

[Dazz]

Oh and given how slow and dopey De Zeeuw is, I garuntee that O'Brien gives away at least four penalties next season, probably more. He only doesn't give away as many at Newcastle because he normally has someone with at least a little pace alonside him, De Zeuuw is such a slow little faggot you can just see him getting skinned and O'Brien comes in with a shit late challenge and gives away a penalty.

We are going to piss all over Portsmouth's defence next season, and they are going down, garunteed.

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">I remember Huth copping one right in the bollocks, it hit his right one, then bounced and hit his left one too, so I will give credit where its due.

If we sign O'Brien he will probably replace ZOOOOOOO over the course of the season and we'll end up with O'Brien and Stefanovic. Im sure I don't need to tell you that Stefanovic absolutly cleared up when it came to the Portsmouth Player of the Season votes. Dejan will keep O'Brien in line.

Needless to say, Stefanovic would have HUUUUUUTH easily, he is Serbian.</font>

[Dazz]

Huth is an angry Nazi, I garuntee Huth would destroy any of your faggoty little players.

[Dazz]

I hate you RBF :mad:

http://img174.echo.cx/img174/3167/champo3qu.jpg

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">i see two players got braces in that game, shame only one of them is world class :rofl:

(Owen Price)</font>

[packt up]

Fucking hell Chelsea have approached Spurs Director of Football Arnesen without Spurs permission and now he wants to leave and so has been suspended by Spurs.

I admire Chelsea for all the brilliant things they can do on the pitch but off it they are becoming too arrogant for my liking and running over the rules like they don't apply to them. I'm not even refering to Mourinho and the stuff he says here because he is a brilliant man who is supremely confident in his team. But breaking the rules over the approach of other people under contract to other teams is wrong and I think its time to bring out the points penalising for Chelsea.

[Cactus Sid]

I'm just wondering what will happen if (and that is a huge if) this turns out to be true

I'm not exactly sure on what the rules are for positions in a club which are not specificly directly linked to the football on the pitch (directors etc... rather than coaches, managers and players) but if it turns out to be a breach AGAIN, surely the F.A should clamp down more than just the 3 point ban they've already stated. So close together, and continued flouting of the rules has surely gotta lead to stiffer penalties.

[Cactus Sid]

Also, Scotland 2 Moldova 0 :D

[packt up]

I hate to judge them already with so few facts surfacing but the fact that Arnesen has already stated that he wants to leave for Chelsea indicates to me that some sort of tapping up has already taken place.

[Cactus Sid]

Yeah thats what it seems like

Ok, players might say "I want to sign for Real Madrid" or whatever, because thats a dream, but that doesn't seem to be the case here, which would indicate clearly that Chelsea have approached him illegally

[packt up]

Yeah plus the fact that Tottenham have suspended Arnesen shows that they don't think everything is above board. Otherwise surely they would have just let him get one with his job? I dunno it just seems to coincedental (again).

[Cactus Sid]

I'm beginning to believe that teams who cheat (nothing to do with Chelsea) should be banned from football.

I.E Israel

[packt up]

What did Israel do exactly?

[Cactus Sid]

You not watching the game?

Fucking assholes are falling over every chance they get, staying down for ages

The keeper got Andy O'Brien sent off for a "headbutt" then stayed down for an hour.

Thank god they've added 7 minutes for all the cheating

[Cactus Sid]

Actually, its not just the Jews cheating, the referee has been utter shite

That said he just booked the keeper...... in the 94th minute, about 20 minutes too late.

[Dazz]

LOL ANDY O'BRIEN IS SHIT, HAVE IT RBF.

[LK]

Well 2-0 Scotland. Dreadful stuff, some players shouldn't be anywhere near the team but today was about the result so I suppose that there is something to build on.

[Ogen]

Cheating bunch of tosser cunts

Thats all I'll say


Disgusted

[packt up]

Nah sorry wasn't watching it :$ wasn't even aware it was on to be honest.

Sounds like they were being shits throughout though.

[yianni]

Turkey 0 Greece 0

Fucking intimidating atmosphere for the Greeks but we came to play, Stellios missed a glorious chance for the 0-1, hit the post. However Turkey had a few chances of their own, Greece allowed them far too much space on the right and some dangerous crosses almost resulted in goals. Still, considering the enormous task, I'm gladly taking the 1 point and getting the fuck out of there. Ukraine won 2-0 however, they're opening up a bit of a lead. MUST BEAT THEM IN ATHENS ON WEDNESDAY NIGHT!

[yianni]

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[Cactus Sid]

I wonder if Ashley Cole realises what a complete and utter cock he is

I just find it so funny that he's blaming everybody except himself for what has happened, and keeps coming out with some utter rubbish.

He said that he wanted 60k a week, but Arsenal said they'd give him 55, doubling his wages. If he loved Arsenal so much, why didn't he just say....its 5 grand a week, what does it matter. He also said something about "people don't want me to pull on my beloved Arsenal shirt". Wasn't so beloved when Chelsea were shoving a 100,000 a week under your nose and certainly didn't stop him from meeting them when under contract to Arsenal.

I hope the F.A throw the book at him after his appeal.

[toxic rooster]

I'm sad to say I agree with Cactus Sid. Apparently his agent's a bit of a cock too, but they knew what they were doing meeting Chelsea, and they're trying to blame everyone under the sun bar themselves. Cole would get a lot more sympathy if he put his hand up, said he fucked up and let's get on with it.

It's a shame, why do they give all the talent to the fucking cunts?

[toxic rooster]

When I first heard about it, first thought I had was 'trying to get higher wages from Arsenal'

[El Capitano Gatisto]

The two games against Israel are the two most sickening Ireland matches I've seen. Last minute equaliser out there, then that shambles last night. That referee was a fucking joke, and the Israeli goalkeeper deserves to die in a suicide bombing.

[Cactus Sid]

Apparently Man U have agreed a fee with Fulham for Edwin Van Der Sar

Should be a good signing for them, if only for a season or two.

[Y2Ant]

lol they should have signed him like 5 years ago, bit too late now.

Fulham are gonna go down now :cool:

[Cactus Sid]

FIFA have rejected Ireland's appeal over O'Brien's Red Card

What the fuck is wrong with them, to me this is a complete endorsement of cheating in the game, and a big thumbs up to all the bullshit the keeper did yesterday

My betting is they didn't even look at the incident and just said "a card is a card", but if that isn't the case, then it is utterly disgraceful

[LK]

I wonder if Ashley Cole realises what a complete and utter cock he is

I just find it so funny that he's blaming everybody except himself for what has happened, and keeps coming out with some utter rubbish.

He said that he wanted 60k a week, but Arsenal said they'd give him 55, doubling his wages. If he loved Arsenal so much, why didn't he just say....its 5 grand a week, what does it matter. He also said something about "people don't want me to pull on my beloved Arsenal shirt". Wasn't so beloved when Chelsea were shoving a 100,000 a week under your nose and certainly didn't stop him from meeting them when under contract to Arsenal.

I hope the F.A throw the book at him after his appeal.
I have said it before and I will say it again. Ashley Cole = prick

[LK]

Van der Sar was one of the guys I wanted United to go for so he would be a decent purchase.

[Oxstar]

Who thinks Palace are going straight back into the premier league? We have made 3 great signings of Jobi Mcanuff, Darren Ward and John Macken, i think we have the best team in the championship currently.

[Oxstar]

United should have went for Sebatian Frey or the czech number 2 goalkeeper Jan lastuka what ever he is called!

[Rob]

We should have signed Van Der Sar on a Bosman in January.

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">fantastic signing, might get some money on Fulham going down now, van der Sar was the reason that absolute shambles of a defence didn't ship thousands of goals.</font>

[LK]

Who thinks Palace are going straight back into the premier league? We have made 3 great signings of Jobi Mcanuff, Darren Ward and John Macken, i think we have the best team in the championship currently.
Well you have the manager there to take you up but I am not sure if you have the players. See how Southampton look when the new season starts cause I would say they have the best team at the moment.

[packt up]

Good signing by Man U, Fulham are gonna struggle this year.

[Wengerland]

Yep, good move for United. Fulham are meant to be after Robert Green to replace van der Sar.

That Israeli keeper is a cunt, staying down for ages, getting O'Brien sent off and then a few pretty fortunate saves, god.

At the minute Palace look good for promotion, yes, but there's still a lot of moves to be made. Macken wouldn't work well alongside Johnson on paper, so he could be his replacement. He wouldn't have wanted to go from a premiership sub/occassional starter to a championship one.

[Karlsberg]

Who thinks Palace are going straight back into the premier league? We have made 3 great signings of Jobi Mcanuff, Darren Ward and John Macken, i think we have the best team in the championship currently.

I think you have a very good side but the chapioship/1st division is a tight league (I know from experience) so i think you might have to settle for second behind norwhich. I think they have the most settled side.

[Altar of Helmsley]

I think it will be Norwich going up, with (and this hurts) Palarse in second, play offs will be as tight as ever.

But i can see Southampton, Wolves, Ipswich and Sheffield United or Sheffield Wednesday (mainly because of sturrock) being there or there about.

[Wengerland]

I might put some money on Wednesday, 40/1 with a good manager and a young, talented side, not bad at all.

We've signed Rab Douglas.

[Dazz]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">fantastic signing, might get some money on Fulham going down now, van der Sar was the reason that absolute shambles of a defence didn't ship thousands of goals.</font>

Yep, I no longer think you are dead certs for the drop, Fulham cannot stay up, I just can't see it.

[Rob Ban Fan]

http://www.pompeyfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/News/NewsDetail/0,,10396~671903,00.html

<Font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">Pompey are playing a pre season friendly against Iran. I take it our resident Iranian exiles Dazz and Danny Electric will be there supporting their boys.</font>

[Dazz]

When ticket details are on sale lemme know, and I may well go.

Also, unles you are planning to give out your username and password for the site, no one will be able to read it, you stupid spastic.

[Rob Ban Fan]

<Font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">well, anyone who supports a club with a premium TV site can read it, you just need to sign up to one and you can view them all. Wengerland and Metal Mike can read it.

They also run the official website of the Carling Cup. Did you know that? Well you do now, Dazz.</font>