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AlphaBean
10-28-2006, 12:57 AM
You have zero fucking idea what you are talking about.
Hahahaha Kreuts is a cross-eyed douchebag who beats up his teammates, and gets made Pat Williams' bitch.
1K POST NEGROES. *streamers and balloons come down*
Savio
10-28-2006, 04:42 PM
No..
It's their terrible O-Line..
p.s. I fucking love Chad Johnson.. I mean, "Ocho Cinco"..Throwing the ball to three NYG linemen doesn't help.
Crippla
10-28-2006, 06:23 PM
How about an avatar bet for the MNF game this week?
If they really want to do that overseas thing, I say they should count it as a road game for both teams. It would be stupid if they take one home game away from a team, since there are only eight during a season anyway.
Joey Slugs
10-29-2006, 02:37 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
*ahem*
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Joey Slugs
10-29-2006, 02:39 PM
Hahahaha Kreuts is a cross-eyed douchebag who beats up his teammates, and gets made Pat Williams' bitch.
1K POST NEGROES. *streamers and balloons come down*
And he's the best fucking center in the league. Suck that.
And where is Williams now?
Learn how to count homey... it was post 1001.
RoXer
10-29-2006, 02:40 PM
It was the 1,000th reply though :o
Joey Slugs
10-29-2006, 02:42 PM
It was the 1,000th reply though :o
I was post #1001. That's all the counts. Plus he's bashing my boy... so fuck him.
Joey Slugs
10-29-2006, 03:26 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
41-0 at the half.
Is it just me, or is watching teams like Denver and Indianapolis every week on CBS seem a little bland? It just seems like the color schemes and everything is just so LDSKFJ. I would like to see them show one of those teams on FOX for once.
Also, the Cowboys season is on the line tonight. I still feel that Romo still has a chance to do well, but we shall see tonight.
Mr. Monday Morning
10-29-2006, 07:43 PM
Yep, Roethlisberger is ruined
ClockShot
10-29-2006, 07:50 PM
Jesus the horses game is gonna be tight. Back and forth every drive.
Kris P Lettus
10-29-2006, 07:56 PM
OMG
We looked like we did last year..
Mad penalties and turnovers..
HORRID
p.s. That McNair fumble that was reversed was the shittiest call I've ever seen..
FUCK
:(
Skippord
10-29-2006, 08:04 PM
I'm gonna go cry for a while
Triple A
10-29-2006, 08:07 PM
Wow Jets game. Fucking piece of shit ref. BAKER WAS EASILY PUSHED OUT. He would have landed fucking flat in the endzone, with plenty of room to spare. FUCK
Game ends on a 50/50 judgment call by a ref. Fuck
ClockShot
10-29-2006, 08:07 PM
DAMMIT! Broncos couldn't hold it.
Skippord
10-29-2006, 08:18 PM
I'm going to murder Reggie Wayne
Mr. Monday Morning
10-29-2006, 08:21 PM
I love how all the fantasy football experts were saying not to play Reggie because he'd never had a big game at Mile High and how great the Broncos D was.
Yeah I'll take 138 yards and 3 TDs thanks
Evil Vito
10-29-2006, 08:32 PM
<font color=goldenrod>Was at the G-Men game today. Windy as fuck. Not the best of games either but a wins a win. Awesome D today</font> :love:
Once they converted that 2 point conversion ( to Reggie btw ), it was pretty obvious that Denver would tie, Peyton would lead the 2 minute drive, and Vintieri would kick the game winner.
Yah, Peyton Manning is MVP so far. I'm not sure we even lead our division if any other QB is playing for the Colts right now.
I love how all the fantasy football experts were saying not to play Reggie because he'd never had a big game at Mile High and how great the Broncos D was.
Yeah I'll take 138 yards and 3 TDs thanks
There's no such thing as a fantasy football expert.
NO ONE that has a column or show on fantasy football has ever played football a day in their life.
D Mac
10-29-2006, 09:17 PM
Pats and Bears look unstopabble right now.
I am so tired of this shit.
Fuck Vanderjagt. Fuck Parcells. Just fire everyone on the team and start fresh.
The Outlaw
10-29-2006, 11:24 PM
Pats and Bears look unstopabble right now.
Typo?
Jesus Shuttlesworth
10-30-2006, 12:28 AM
That last play to Reggie Wayne was gross. Got a feeling Colts are going to beat the Patriots now since they there where able to drop that many points on Denver, we'll see tho
Hopefully Manning fucks it up somehow though, that'd be fucking awesome.
Jesus Shuttlesworth
10-30-2006, 12:31 AM
ROFL why is Parcells kissing everyone on the cheek?
Joey Slugs
10-30-2006, 12:36 AM
I'm still laughing over that Bears 1st half....
AlphaBean
10-30-2006, 12:39 AM
I was post #1001. That's all the counts. Plus he's bashing my boy... so fuck him.
Your boy? You grew up with him? Do you feel a kinship with him because you're cross-eyed too?
Way to be a stereotypical douchebag Chicago fan.
Jesus Shuttlesworth
10-30-2006, 12:51 AM
Romo rockin' his high school football tshirt under his pads (saw it during the press conference) thats tight
Crimson
10-30-2006, 12:52 AM
Proud of my Cowboys tonite..Romo looked pretty good, if Bledsoe was in there i'm not sure we win that game ,but Carolina shot themselves in the foot so many times maybe we still win. But this should make these analysts shut the fuck up for at least a week , saying Cowboys were a mess..haha
Joey Slugs
10-30-2006, 01:28 AM
Your boy? You grew up with him? Do you feel a kinship with him because you're cross-eyed too?
Way to be a stereotypical douchebag Chicago fan.
You know... why don't you go fuck yourself faggot. There.... was that stereotypical enough for you? Fucking blow me. Who the fuck do you root for bitch?
You bash one of the premiere offensive linemen in the NFL and you call me the douchebag? What the fuck ever.
Joey Slugs, calm down, everything is going to be just fine. Your team is 7-0 and look to be a Super Bowl contender come January. There's no need for any blowing or fucking or any of that crude behavior going on at this moment in time.
Joey Slugs
10-30-2006, 02:59 AM
Joey Slugs, calm down, everything is going to be just fine. Your team is 7-0 and look to be a Super Bowl contender come January. There's no need for any blowing or fucking or any of that crude behavior going on at this moment in time.
No. It's cool. He wanted a stereotype and I fucking gave him one.
That last play to Reggie Wayne was gross. Got a feeling Colts are going to beat the Patriots now since they there where able to drop that many points on Denver, we'll see tho
Hopefully Manning fucks it up somehow though, that'd be fucking awesome.
Well, it wouldnt be the first time he fucks up in New England. But he's about as locked in as i've ever seen him right now. Last year the defense was making plays to win games and was very efficient. This year, its not at all. Injuries, FA loss's. Its bad right now, yet Manning hasnt really flinched and not even the best defense in the league could even slow him.
I hope the Pats win tommorow, for the sake of the Indy game.
Mr. Monday Morning
10-30-2006, 03:30 AM
Hold that thought
:lol:
Savio
10-30-2006, 08:39 AM
I would have really pissed me off if the cards beat the bears and then lost to the raiders
AlphaBean
10-30-2006, 11:38 AM
You know... why don't you go fuck yourself faggot. There.... was that stereotypical enough for you? Fucking blow me. Who the fuck do you root for bitch?
You bash one of the premiere offensive linemen in the NFL and you call me the douchebag? What the fuck ever.
Way to take it personally. Seriously. You ARE a stereotype. A fucking meatball. Go beat your wife and call her AlphaBean, it will make you feel better, guido.
Kris P Lettus
10-30-2006, 11:55 AM
The Raven's D intimidated our O-Line and Reggie Bush..
Turnovers and penalties killed us..
The "cool composure" that we've shown all season was nonexistent..
Well, we do have the Bucs next week..
:(
Who Dat??
Joey Slugs
10-30-2006, 01:55 PM
Way to take it personally. Seriously. You ARE a stereotype. A fucking meatball. Go beat your wife and call her AlphaBean, it will make you feel better, guido.
Way to take me serious there retard. And if you think that I'm going to be bothered by you pointing out racial stereotypes.... then you have another thing coming.
Next time... don't try to act like you know me and try to act like you have SOME football knowledge before you bash a player.
Kris P Lettus
10-30-2006, 01:59 PM
AlphaBean has an IQ of well over 1,000...
D Mac
10-30-2006, 02:18 PM
Still a spaz out.
Kris P Lettus
10-30-2006, 02:40 PM
Kinda like this DM??
Trent Green hurt bad on a fucking bullshit hit while he was sliding.
Fucking Bengals faggot.
Yeah the Bengals resorted to low tactics because that's the kind of bitches they are.
If it was Palmer instead of Green you'd be singing a different tune so shut the fuck up.
FIRE HERM EDWARDS
Supreme Olajuwon
10-30-2006, 02:43 PM
Didn't you hear? The Raiders beat Super Bowl winners.
Nervous Ferret
10-30-2006, 03:31 PM
FUCKing Charlie Frye
I am now on the bring in "Kellen Clemens" campaign :(
Savio
10-30-2006, 04:56 PM
I would have really pissed me off if the cards beat the bears and then lost to the raiders
Hey wasnt Darrent Williams the guy whos said, earlier this week, that if the Manning decided not to throw at Champ Bailey and throw at him 12-13 times, he'd pick two of them??????
ROFL
Someone show Darrent Williams where the kiddie game is please.
Dont fuck this up New England. We have an epic regular season matchup next week.
Did Darrent Williams come back to Invesco and pick up his gear on the 20 yard line?
If not, we'll just take it to the lost and found and set it near Duane Starks gear and Champ Baileys 2004 playoff gear.
AlphaBean
10-30-2006, 06:10 PM
And the rest of the Colts' gear after the AFC championship game when they go home.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
AlphaBean
10-30-2006, 06:14 PM
Way to take me serious there retard. And if you think that I'm going to be bothered by you pointing out racial stereotypes.... then you have another thing coming.
Next time... don't try to act like you know me and try to act like you have SOME football knowledge before you bash a player.
I'm sorry, since when does talking shit about a player make me have no football knowledge?
I would think your ignorant spasms of rage showed a far greater lack of knowledge on your part, to be honest.
Kreutz is and always will be overrated. When you have to play politics and mind games to try and gain an advantage, that says something about your abilities. Kind of like Fred Smoot talking shit -- it covers up his defficiency as a cornerback. Matt Birk, amongst others, is way better than Kreutz. If Kreutz wasn't juicing, he'd be worthless. And if you think he's not juicing, you need to be tweaked on something to break your teammate's jaw.
Or maybe he was aiming at someone else and missed because of his crossed eyes.
CAUGHT!!!!!!!!
TOUCHDOOOOOOOOOOOOWNNNNNNN!!!!!!!
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
NOOOOOOO!
AlphaBean
10-30-2006, 06:27 PM
Well glad you have one game to hold on to for the Vikings... all I have is the last 5 years for the Colts... I can't even decide which one to pick. Maybe the Vandershank from last year? Or all the Pats embarrassments... hmm...! Decisions!
I'd talk about the Vikings playoff performances, but..yah.
Jesus Shuttlesworth
10-30-2006, 06:40 PM
Guys lets talk about the Patriots instead
Joey Slugs
10-30-2006, 06:40 PM
I'd talk about the Vikings playoff performances, but..yah.
:lol:
AlphaBean
10-30-2006, 06:43 PM
Yeah let's talk about the Patriots. Who cares if your team made it to the playoffs more in a weaker conference? You go to the playoffs only to get embarrassed? In the end, none of our teams are any good. Way to go top seeded Bears, way to get raped by Steve Smith at home.
So again, let's talk about the Patriots... the only team who can talk shit... I mean, Steelers maybe... but LOL... way to eat it off the Raiders.
Jesus Shuttlesworth
10-30-2006, 06:50 PM
When did the Patriots get embarrassed?
Supreme Olajuwon
10-30-2006, 06:54 PM
Super Bowl XX
AlphaBean
10-30-2006, 06:56 PM
I was talking about the Colts/Bears... last year nobody really saw the Pats getting too far because all the coaches and half the line left... but for the past 3 years, the Colts were "Hands down" the class of the NFL... last year it was by far the Bears... :dunno:
Funny how a Colts fan can laugh at any other team choking... when that's all his team ever does... ever... :(
Joey Slugs
10-30-2006, 07:17 PM
Way to go top seeded Bears, way to get raped by Steve Smith at home.
We were the #2 seed... but then again... we never lost to the Cardinals and missed the playoffs....
Insult after insult is not the proper way to have a football conversation you assholes.
Like what Big Vito and Gonzo do: talk about the strengths and weaknesses of your local team and make casual observations on others, because there is no way any of us can watch all 256 games during a season.
Nervous Ferret
10-30-2006, 07:50 PM
Hmm New England plays Minnesota tonight and Indy next week, outsdie shot the Jets could be going to Foxboro in 2 weeks looking for a share of the division title.
Lets gooooooooooooooooooooo Chester Taylor
ps Chris Baker would have been so inbounds its not even funny :(
Gonzo
10-30-2006, 08:20 PM
Yeah, amazing fucking catch, shitty what happened.
Jesus Shuttlesworth
10-30-2006, 08:22 PM
Super Bowl XX
LOL
Wasn't expecting that
Vikings going down 2niiiiiiiiiiite. After early reports, I guess Seymour is not hurt and will be playing tonight.
Jesus Shuttlesworth
10-30-2006, 10:26 PM
10-0 Pats, should be ahead by much more tho :mad:
Gonzo
10-30-2006, 10:39 PM
Not watching the game but I hate when your team misses oppurtunities. Like for instance when the Giants played the Cowboys last week it was like 12-7 going into halftime (Giants leading) but it should have been more. The Cowboys would have had the lead 14-12 if Sam Madison hadn't picked Bledsoe deep in the red zone. That would have been shitty considering we outplayed the Cowboys in pretty much all phases up until that point.
Triple A
10-30-2006, 10:45 PM
Fucking Pats are mad good.
Jesus Shuttlesworth
10-30-2006, 10:53 PM
lol Brady told the guy who threw a drink on Watson to fuck off
PATS LOOKIN GOOD
Jesus Shuttlesworth
10-30-2006, 11:58 PM
31-7 nukkas
BCWWF
10-31-2006, 01:41 AM
WOW. Brad Childress was completely outcoached today. I have never seen such a good example of it. The Pats just ate the Vikes defense up, and the offensive line made it easy for Brady to find open recievers.
Eh.
Skippord
10-31-2006, 02:27 AM
If not, we'll just take it to the lost and found and set it near Duane Starks gear and Champ Baileys 2004 playoff gear.
.....And Peyton Mannings Superbowl ring
I was talking about the Colts/Bears... last year nobody really saw the Pats getting too far because all the coaches and half the line left... but for the past 3 years, the Colts were "Hands down" the class of the NFL... last year it was by far the Bears... :dunno:
Funny how a Colts fan can laugh at any other team choking... when that's all his team ever does... ever... :(
YOUR TEAM DIDNT MAKE THE PLAYOFFS YOU STUPID ASSHOLE! So i'll laugh at your team all i want. MAKE THE PLAYOFFS BEFORE YOU START LAUGHING bitch. I cant talk about your team choking, cause your team never does anything significant enough for there to be a possible choke situation involved. Get your highest paid players off the fucking boats and go win a few games. You're fucking right i laugh at your team. I rather get there and choke, then watch my team be horrible all the time. So do me a favor and stfu. YOUR TEAM SUCKS. YOUR TEAM GOT THERE ASSES HANDED TO THEM. STFU. OMG I"M LAUGHING SO HARD. " Atleast my team doesnt choke " :lol: No one cares about your team.
CAUGHT!!!!! TOUCHDOWN!!!!!!!!!!!
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
NOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Kris P Lettus
10-31-2006, 11:20 AM
lol Brady told the guy who threw a drink on Watson to fuck off
PATS LOOKIN GOOD
lol
I saw that..
I think the Pats will beat us this week.
Well... Is Duane Starks playing?
Jesus Shuttlesworth
10-31-2006, 01:06 PM
Pats coming in pretty much 100% healthy on Defense, Eugene Wilson was the only stratch last night but Hawkins is a pretty capiable back up.
Vikings offense is horrible though, so we'll see how they'll match up againest the Colts. Gonna be a hot game I think, Patriots coming in playing a lot better then last year when they got romped.
Doug Gabriel for MVP
Jesus Shuttlesworth
10-31-2006, 01:24 PM
Nope, No rookies either
Kris P Lettus
10-31-2006, 01:26 PM
Belichick's 19 year old son got 6 months probation for getting popped with some weed..
lol
Nope, No rookies either
WTF! I demand that Duane Starks be guarding Reggie Wayne!
Crippla
10-31-2006, 02:37 PM
Duane Starks isn't even on the Patriots anymore...
Crippla
10-31-2006, 02:45 PM
Ya.
Jesus Shuttlesworth
10-31-2006, 04:31 PM
10 different people caught passes last night, not over paying Branch still a bad idea?
Triple A
10-31-2006, 04:51 PM
Belichick's 19 year old son got 6 months probation for getting popped with some weed..
lol
Yeah that was like the top story on NFL.com for hours. Who cares? Retarded.
Gonzo
10-31-2006, 09:21 PM
Yeah that was like the top story on NFL.com for hours. Who cares? Retarded.
I know right, just because he is the coache's son. That kind of shit happens on a daily basis to thousands of people.
Gonzo
10-31-2006, 09:37 PM
Don't know why I put an 'e' in "coache's."
10 different people caught passes last night, not over paying Branch still a bad idea?
Honestly, i never thought it was that bad, I thought it sucked in terms of the big picture and the fact that, I thought they werent doing right by Tom Brady. I actually thought Seattle was nuts giving what you got for him.
That Doug Gabriel pick up was huge. Jackson has looked better and better. I think Cadwell will find a way to blow a game somewhere down the line. I'd actualy be worried about the recievers inexperience in the playoffs, but you do have Tom Brady so..
Hey, enjoy your 240 yards rushing next week. :p
AlphaBean
11-01-2006, 12:29 AM
I think Belicheck should come out and admit the weed was his, and that the police should apologize to him.
They totally would, because it's fucking Bill Belicheck. The judge would say "I'm sorry, but I have to uphold the la----" then Bruschi would appear at the back of the courtroom.
Then Bruschi would be shot in the face.
AlphaBean
11-01-2006, 01:48 AM
Only to be back on the field in like, 3 days.
Kris P Lettus
11-01-2006, 11:24 AM
Drew Brees might be suing his mom.. Something about, they don't have a good relationship to start, and now she is using a picture of him, in a Chargers uni, for some ad campainge for whatever political office she's running for in Texas..
Weird..
Kris P Lettus
11-01-2006, 11:26 AM
Belichick's 19 year old son got 6 months probation for getting popped with some weed..
lol
Yeah that was like the top story on NFL.com for hours. Who cares? Retarded.
Maybe if him and Tony Dungy's son had been buddies, things would be different in the Dungy house..
Crippla
11-01-2006, 01:18 PM
Only to be back on the field in like, 3 days.
Yeah, fucking right.(see avatar.)
Jesus Shuttlesworth
11-01-2006, 02:49 PM
Wow have a fucking microeconomics test at 9 am on Monday morning FUCK YOU
Looks like I'm not drinking during the game
Kris P Lettus
11-01-2006, 08:00 PM
Why??
The game will be over by midnight.. You could be asleep by 1AM and you could wake up at 8AM..
If you're still hungover from beer after 7 hours of sleep, you are a lightweight..
p.s. Just chug a bottled water for every 3 beers you drink..
The Outlaw
11-01-2006, 09:29 PM
Lol economics is ridiculous. Had Macro but didn't have to take micro. :cool:
Jesus Shuttlesworth
11-01-2006, 10:06 PM
Why??
The game will be over by midnight.. You could be asleep by 1AM and you could wake up at 8AM..
If you're still hungover from beer after 7 hours of sleep, you are a lightweight..
p.s. Just chug a bottled water for every 3 beers you drink..
Don't really like drinking the night before a test, not my style
Well I will probably still drink, but I was planning on getting tanked. Its not so much the hungover thing, I just become like a dead body I don't get what it is. Once I am up I am fine but I sleep threw my alarm all the time when I am shitfaced the night before. Like totally have no reaction to it
Maybe if him and Tony Dungy's son had been buddies, things would be different in the Dungy house..
Maybe you should die from dumb disease.
I don't know why people are writing off Pittsburgh so much. Even with Batch, they have a hell of a team. Somebody today said they weren't even going to make the playoffs. Come on, they lost Randle El and Jerome Bettis.
Textbook example as to why you shouldn't base a team off of one game.
Kris P Lettus
11-02-2006, 08:55 AM
Maybe you should die from dumb disease.
Or I could follow in the Dungy tradition and die from "I'm a huge pussy who can't handle my teenage problems" disease..
Jesus Shuttlesworth
11-02-2006, 02:24 PM
Textbook example as to why you shouldn't base a team off of one game.
That was a pretty safe predicition tho, the loss of Bettis and Randle El aren't the big issue with the Steelers being terrible. It is the fact that Ben Rothliesberger enjoys throwing it to the wrong team.
AlphaBean
11-02-2006, 03:00 PM
I think that Bettis was a big loss, with him in the game the win was almost guaranteed, because you couldn't not respect the run when a team runs 80% of the time.
Roethlisberger has been out of sync all year because every game it seems he's getting injured or whatever. Come on. The bike crash, the appendix and the concussion? I think if he can play like, 2-3 more games without dying, he can settle into a rhythm.
Also, Santonio Holmes should be benched, they should sign Charles Rogers or something, fuck. Yeah, good idea to get the ball to your overrated rookie in the clutch.
But yeah, ROFL@ James Dungy. I heard he signed on to do a beer commercial. He plays the dude who comes in and says "You guys hangin' out? I'll hang out."
AlphaBean
11-02-2006, 03:01 PM
I think Stima and the sports media should cut Roethlisberger some slack. But then, I felt someone should have cut James Dungy some slack last year, too... :lol:
Joey Slugs
11-02-2006, 03:22 PM
Maybe Roethisberger just isn't that good.
AlphaBean
11-02-2006, 03:41 PM
Undefeated in the regular season as a rookie... wins a superbowl in his 2nd year...
No, he's pretty good.
Joey Slugs
11-02-2006, 06:44 PM
Undefeated in the regular season as a rookie... wins a superbowl in his 2nd year...
No, he's pretty good.
And he had a team around him. Shit... Kyle Orton won 10 games his first year, does that make him an NFL starter?
Ben Roethlisberger has the same team around him that he had last year for the most part, so there's much, much more to it than that.
That motorcycle accident might have ruined his career.
Triple A
11-02-2006, 06:50 PM
I never really thought Roethlisberger was that good. He would throw the ball like 12 times a game and everyone would talk about how incredible he is. He is alright but I think most quarterbacks could have done well with the system that was set up.
Jesus Shuttlesworth
11-02-2006, 08:34 PM
Yeah I sort of agree with all of you, I thought he was more of a Trent Dilfer Superbowl winner to tell you the truth. Sametime though I agree that all the shit going on with him this year he is going to have a negative effect on you.
No run game? They still have Willie Parker - I dunno, dude only had 1,200 yards last season. Ben's bad play is hurting the running game, the running game isn't hurting Ben's play.
AlphaBean
11-02-2006, 11:41 PM
And he had a team around him. Shit... Kyle Orton won 10 games his first year, does that make him an NFL starter?
Being third on the depth chart makes Orton not an NFL starter.
Ben won some games on his own last year. He was on his way to becoming elite. It can still happen, but he took several steps back this season.
AlphaBean
11-02-2006, 11:43 PM
He's 24 years old, isn't he? And he already has a Superbowl ring. He's prone to do young, stupid things. He's younger than I am. Cut him some slack, he will mature.
And to say his career is going the way of Ryan Leaf? Nigga please. He has a ring. That ring does magical things. Look at Brad Johnson, everyone thinks he's a star; why? Because of the ring. Not because the Bucs D was the best ever... oh no.
Jesus Shuttlesworth
11-02-2006, 11:48 PM
I don't think anyone is comparing him to Ryan Leaf, way to go way overboard though.
I just don't think he'll ever be a consistant Pro Bowl player, maybe he'll sneak in once or twice but I personally don't invision him developing into a great QB.
AlphaBean
11-03-2006, 12:03 AM
Ahahahahahhhhhhhhhhhhh fuck someone on another message board brought up the Leaf comparison. Nevermind.
BCWWF
11-03-2006, 04:26 AM
The Steelers aren't bad for any of the reasons you predicted them to be bad for, so that doesn't really justify anything.
Joey Slugs
11-03-2006, 04:34 AM
He's 24 years old, isn't he? And he already has a Superbowl ring. He's prone to do young, stupid things. He's younger than I am. Cut him some slack, he will mature.
And to say his career is going the way of Ryan Leaf? Nigga please. He has a ring. That ring does magical things. Look at Brad Johnson, everyone thinks he's a star; why? Because of the ring. Not because the Bucs D was the best ever... oh no.
I'll take Brad Johnson over Roethlisberger any day ofthe week.
AlphaBean
11-03-2006, 11:46 AM
Because he's a meatball? You can't expect intelligent posts from him ever, so we should just ignore it.
Brad Johnson protects the ball, like he did on Monday night, with three picks. Yeah.
The Outlaw
11-03-2006, 02:30 PM
I think people really underestimate how important the Bus was to the Steelers.
Joey Slugs
11-03-2006, 02:38 PM
:nono:
Because Johnson is a veteran. He has proved that he can win. It's the reason he still has a job in the league. Right now he has a bad Minnesota team in the thick of things for a wild card birth.
Roethlisberger had a good year (nothing record breaking) and won the Super Bowl. Winning the Super Bowl does not automatically place you in an elite group and make you a Hall of Famer. It does not grant him a place along side guys like Montana and Elway. A guy like Brady is on his way there, not "Big Ben".
Just as winning the Heisman does not guarantee you a long NFL career.
Crippla
11-03-2006, 02:40 PM
:nono:
Because Johnson is a veteran. He has proved that he can win. It's the reason he still has a job in the league. Right now he has a bad Minnesota team in the thick of things for a wild card birth.
Roethlisberger had a good year (nothing record breaking) and won the Super Bowl. Winning the Super Bowl does not automatically place you in an elite group and make you a Hall of Famer. It does not grant him a place along side guys like Montana and Elway. A guy like Brady is on his way there, not "Big Ben".
Just as winning the Heisman does not guarantee you a long NFL career.
Yeah, not to mention Big Ben played like shit in the actual SuperBowl though he did lead his team there.
Joey Slugs
11-03-2006, 02:48 PM
I think people really underestimate how important the Bus was to the Steelers.
Bettis made Roethlisberger a better QB.
Look at last year's rushing stats compared to the first half of this year. Last year Pittsburgh rushed the ball a total of 549 times for 2,223 yards (good for 3rd in the AFC) with 21 TDs. They averaged 138.9 yards per game and 4 yards per carry.
Through 7 games this year they have 204 attempts for 773 yards (good for 9th in the AFC this year, behind Oakland) and 6 TDs. They are averaging 110.4 yards per game and 3.8 per carry.
They were 11-5 last year and won the Wild Card and 2-5 so far this year.
If their rushing stats continue this way, they won't come close to what they did last year... thus making losing "The Bus" all that more important.
Joey Slugs
11-03-2006, 02:55 PM
Yeah, not to mention Big Ben played like shit in the actual SuperBowl though he did lead his team there.
Good point, but he also didn't have a record breaking season either.
He was 168/268 for 2,385 with 17 TDs and 9 INTs.
For the record (in the Super Bowl) he was 9/21 for 123 with 0 TDs and 2 INTs.
Crippla
11-03-2006, 02:57 PM
Yeah, that was the point, he choked in the SuperBowl. I've said this before and I'm gonna say it again, if I could pick one QB that's clutch and will come through in a game that counts like that, it's Tom Brady.
Joey Slugs
11-03-2006, 03:02 PM
And just to close the Johnson arguement.
In only 9 games last year he was 184/294 for 1,885 with 12 TDs and 4 INTs. Compare that to Roethlisberger's "elite" Super Bowl Champion stats.
Jesus Shuttlesworth
11-03-2006, 03:30 PM
The Steelers still have Willie Parker no? 1,200 yards last year
I guess Bettis was the man at getting 1 yard TD runs last year though, that 386 rushing yards being taken off the team is definetly why the Steelers are playing bad.
Joey Slugs
11-03-2006, 03:46 PM
It has nothing to do with how many yards Bettis got last year and it has everything to do with teams having to play the run from two different styles and respecting both at any given moment.
dablackguy
11-03-2006, 04:02 PM
The Steelers are awful right now because of Roethlisberger. Its that simple. he's been awful and his other side stuff like the motorcycle accident and appendectomy the concussion are distractions because he continues to play through them and play poorly. Hell, he's tied for the league lead in interceptions with Charlie Frye.
dablackguy
11-03-2006, 04:06 PM
What also hurts is that when Bettis and whomever else were there, he never had to do much, maybe make the occasional big throw. Now, the team gets behind and he HAS TO make plays. A bit different than before.
Also, the defense hasn't been as good. This is both cause and effect of Joey Porter's injury. Thought he did play last week, they need to go back to what made them good, a run heavy offense and that kept a vicious defense on the sidelines and fresh.
Kris P Lettus
11-03-2006, 07:27 PM
I bought the Official NFL Rule Book today for $10.. Current as of this season..
Pretty sweet..
It's my new bathroom reader..
BCWWF
11-03-2006, 08:51 PM
OK, Joey Slugs, seriously just take that back.
Ben Roethlisburger is not only a better quarterback than Brad Johnson, but he is younger, has more potential and has won just as many Super Bowls. The only reason the Vikings are in the "thick" of the wildcard chase is because the defense has been solid and the NFC, especially NFC North, is awful.
Heard about Roethlisburger? Says he wants to be a rappa.
Jesus Shuttlesworth
11-04-2006, 01:10 AM
It has nothing to do with how many yards Bettis got last year and it has everything to do with teams having to play the run from two different styles and respecting both at any given moment.Lets face it, Bettis had a great career (obviously) but last season he was merely a short yardage back. Yeah it hurts to lose a short yardage back but hurt this bad? I think the lose of Bettis is being overrated a lot, not underrated. Najeh Davenport can be a shortyardage back (He is currently averaging 4.1 yards a carry, while Bettis had 3.3 last season) So I really don't see how you say the Steelers are playing bad due to the loss of Bettis, I don't think that is the case at all.
AlphaBean
11-04-2006, 02:02 AM
Lets face it, Bettis had a great career (obviously) but last season he was merely a short yardage back. Yeah it hurts to lose a short yardage back but hurt this bad? I think the lose of Bettis is being overrated a lot, not underrated. Najeh Davenport can be a shortyardage back (He is currently averaging 4.1 yards a carry, while Bettis had 3.3 last season) So I really don't see how you say the Steelers are playing bad due to the loss of Bettis, I don't think that is the case at all.
Difference being, Davenport PROBABLY will get you 1st down on 4th and inches... Willie Parker MIGHT get you 1st down on 4th and inches... but Jerome Bettis DEFINITELY got you 1st down, every time. For 3rd and 4th down, short-yardage etc, Bettis was the man.
Which is why I don't get this... why aren't there more 250 pound HBs in the league? Take the Vikings... their "bruiser" back is 215. What the fuck is that?
And Brad Johnson played against very poor teams when he was "successful" last season. Facing the Steelers and the Ravens and the Giants, he was embarrassed. He's like my brother... he can torch you on rookie, but when you put it on All Pro, you better have a killer offensive line, an awesome running game, big, sure-handed receivers, and a top-5 defense in the game that will score points for you, otherwise... :wave: Hi Patriots!
Yah, but did Bettis get up, pull his pants down and shit in a closet?
AlphaBean
11-04-2006, 02:14 AM
He probably shit in the closet Matt Hasselbeck came out of.
But to answer your question, Dookie Davenport snuck into his ex GF's dorm room while she was sleeping, opened her closet door, and took a shit in her clothes hamper.
Fuckin' shit in the fuckin' hamper. That's legendary. I was sad the Vikings didn't pick him up. :( We'd be getting more than 2.5 YPC that Chester Taylor's getting...
Jesus Shuttlesworth
11-04-2006, 02:19 AM
Which is why I don't get this... why aren't there more 250 pound HBs in the league? Take the Vikings... their "bruiser" back is 215. What the fuck is that?Never been a big fan of short yardage backs myself, unless you have a smaller running back like a Barry Sanders or something, I really don't see why an average sized running back can't get the first down. You don't need a 260 pound guy "busting through" for 2 yards, I'm sure your 220 pound back who just did all the work to get you to the 1, can easily get that 1 yard TD .
Not really buying the YOU KNEW IT thing with Bettis either, seeing how he coughed up the ball in the "biggest short yardage situation" of his career.
AlphaBean
11-04-2006, 02:42 AM
Haha true, about the fumble... but hey, he got yardage... he just happened to leave the ball behind. :shifty:
But yeah, the way I see it... the closer a back is to a linebacker, the more punishment he can inflict and impose on the defense. Like you know in those old football movies when they give it to Kubiak from Parker Lewis, aka Jerry from ER, or whichever "big dude" happens to be on the team? They have a guy on each leg, and two people on their back trying to take the guy down...
Really, you take a 210 pound back who can be tackled by a cornerback, how well are you going to tire out a defense?
Granted, you've got backs out there, like Moe Williams, who never quit on a run, and have wicked leg strength who can push the pile... I just like the idea of giving a Ray Lewis or Julius Peppers the ball, rather than handing the ball off to Ronde Barber's IDENTICAL TWIN BROTHER.
That's why I love Corey Dillon... he's not 260, but he's still a bruiser, and it's guys like him and Jamal Lewis who are breaking the single-game rushing records... not Tiki, not Portis... and you know why? Come 3rd, 4th quarter, that defense is sick and tired of working their ass off to bring the big man down. When you have a quick back, like we were discussing with a QB who can get rid of the ball... you get an elusive, slippery back... and you get him in your sights, you're going to crush him. You take a 260 pound bruiser, and you need to worry about bringing him down, not laying wood. You need to wrap that guy up, where's the fun in that?
I have a question maybe someone can answer for me. I've been looking for the reasoning behind the Colts having to go to New England 3 (4?) years in a row. My question is basically .. Why? Why dont the Colts get a home game in the regular season against New England. I havent found a definitive reason.
Gonzo
11-04-2006, 03:44 PM
Bruising backs are far less versatile, I'd much rather have the more athletic backs of the league. Kind of excited for the day Brandon Jacobs takes over. 6'4" 250lbs. and this dude has some speed.
Kris P Lettus
11-04-2006, 04:03 PM
That day will be the end of the regular season, due to the Giants not making the playoffs and Tiki retiring..
:wave:
Kris P Lettus
11-04-2006, 04:08 PM
Also, I kinda have a similar question to RP's about how they make up the schedule.. I've noticed that the rest of the NFC South have a very similar schedule to the Saints.. It seems everyone in the NFC South plays everyone in the NFC East and the AFC North.. Is this just a coincidence or is it always like this.. Like, one division plays two other divisions every year?? If so, this' the first year I've noticed..
Gonzo
11-04-2006, 04:35 PM
Yes. Let me break this down:
We will use the NFC East as an example. This year everyone in the NFC East plays everyone from the NFC South and the AFC South. (So what this means is that each team in a single division plays two other divisions a year, and this rotates year to year.) This comprises 8 games of your schedule.
Then there are 6 games, 3 home and 3 away against your divisional opponent. You're now at a total of 14 games.
Then, based on your previous year's record, you play two other teams. For example those two teams this year for the Giants are the Seahawks and the Bears. The way they determine who plays home/away (now I'm not totally 100% positive on this portion but anyways) is whoever had the better record. For example the Giants played the Seahawks in Seattle this year because last year the Seahawks were 13-3 and the Giants were 11-5. The Giants and Bears were both 11-5 last year, but the Giants must have won the tie breaker. You're now at a total of 16 games, plus one week for a bye week.
Anyways, right-o Kris, probably see you in the playoffs. ;)
Kris P Lettus
11-04-2006, 04:50 PM
Yeah, I guess I just never noticed until this year..
Don't have to wait until the Playoff's, homes..
12-24-06
Christmas Eve will bring redemption for week two last year..
Bet an avatar??
Nervous Ferret
11-04-2006, 04:58 PM
Gonz has got it
Gonzo
11-04-2006, 06:21 PM
Yeah, I guess I just never noticed until this year..
Don't have to wait until the Playoff's, homes..
12-24-06
Christmas Eve will bring redemption for week two last year..
Bet an avatar??
Oh yeah son, I'm game on your avatar bet. I already antied up in your thread in casual.
BCWWF
11-04-2006, 06:35 PM
Bruising backs are far less versatile, I'd much rather have the more athletic backs of the league. Kind of excited for the day Brandon Jacobs takes over. 6'4" 250lbs. and this dude has some speed.
Agreed. If there were more 250 pound men who are agile enough to play running back, they would. We played Texas A&M in football a few weeks ago, and they had a big ass guy like that, huge yet very mobile. After the game, people were like "Why don't we get a guy like that?"
It's simply because a 250 pound guy with good feet is not easy to find.
Jesus Shuttlesworth
11-05-2006, 12:51 AM
A lot fast 250 pound guys land on defense, as well
Like when Kellen Winslow Jr came around everyone was like "Why the fuck isn't there more athletic guys like this dude?"
Because all the athletic tight ends end up as defensive ends once they hit college.
Kris P Lettus
11-05-2006, 09:18 AM
Deuce is 6'1" 232lbs.. He gained about 20lbs once he got to the NFL..
I think the combo of a big "power back" and a smaller "all over" back is the best..
I don't know why we haven't run Deuce and Reggie in Splitbacks yet..
Kris P Lettus
11-05-2006, 01:04 PM
Joe Horn is out this week due to a pulled hammy..
:(
Jesus Shuttlesworth
11-05-2006, 02:09 PM
Yeah the combo thing is different from just a staright up short yardage back. I just think a short yardage back is a little unnecessary sometimes
Gonzo
11-05-2006, 03:20 PM
I don't know why we haven't run Deuce and Reggie in Splitbacks yet..
I do it in Madden all the time. :D
Crippla
11-05-2006, 03:57 PM
Joe Horn is out this week due to a pulled hammy..
:(
:y:
weather vane
11-05-2006, 04:11 PM
DOLPHINS RIGHT FUCKING NOW
Joey Slugs
11-05-2006, 04:13 PM
WHAT THE FUCK.
weather vane
11-05-2006, 04:14 PM
wooooooooooooooooooo!
Jesus Shuttlesworth
11-05-2006, 04:48 PM
lol wow Bengals/Ravens game ends on a non-call on balant pass intereference
weather vane
11-05-2006, 04:49 PM
PHINSSSSSSSS
Joey Slugs
11-05-2006, 04:52 PM
The Arizona game had to come back and haunt us at some point....
and today was the fucking day.
Ain't over yet though.
Supreme Olajuwon
11-05-2006, 04:57 PM
Isn't the reason the NFL doesn't want high schoolers skipping college because they aren't mature enough? Because half the players on the Bengals act like they're 5 year olds and it's really embarrassing to watch.
RoXer
11-05-2006, 05:04 PM
OMG DALLAS COME ON
RoXer
11-05-2006, 05:05 PM
WOOOOWWWWWWWWW
Joey Slugs
11-05-2006, 05:06 PM
This is why there hasn't been an undefeated team since 1972.
RoXer
11-05-2006, 05:06 PM
Half this dorm just exploded when that happened
Jesus Shuttlesworth
11-05-2006, 05:12 PM
Joey Harrington = 5-3 as a starter againest the Chicago Bears
Joey Slugs
11-05-2006, 05:13 PM
Eh. It happens.
Joey Slugs
11-05-2006, 05:14 PM
Atleast there will be no undefeated teams after tonight.
Mister Sinister
11-05-2006, 05:16 PM
I'm rich bitch!!! I called it on an whim, betting my entire paycheck for the fins...I really felt I would be regreting it, but guess not
Jesus Shuttlesworth
11-05-2006, 05:22 PM
I thought you said you didn't bet anything?
Jesus Shuttlesworth
11-05-2006, 05:23 PM
Last edited by Helmsphere : Today at 03:52 PM.
Mister Sinister
11-05-2006, 05:23 PM
I made an last minute transaction before the game
Kris P Lettus
11-05-2006, 05:33 PM
Gonzo, so do I.. Specially with the McAllister option..
:cool:
Great game.. That rookie tackle that replaced Jamal Brown did an excellent job against Rice.. He did have one false start but I'll take that..
Brees picked apart their zone D.. Devery Henderson and Marques Colston looked good..
They stuffed the running game but we didn't need it.. Passing game and field position won for us.. I mean, even when Bush/Deuce looked bad, their presence is enough to make our passing game look awesome..
Beerman looked good, minus that one drop..
Good game all around..
Did ATL lose to the Lions??
If so, LOf'nL..
Who Dat??
Kris P Lettus
11-05-2006, 05:35 PM
Steelers next week..
Who Dat??
D Mac
11-05-2006, 05:43 PM
Another good Chiefs win. But now we have to take on the Fins after they beat Chicago. And they will prolly be confindent but we can take em.
Spilchuk :p
Joey Slugs
11-05-2006, 05:46 PM
I made an last minute transaction before the game
Unless there is picture proof of said betting slip or something: I call bullshit on this one.
Kris P Lettus
11-05-2006, 05:48 PM
I call bullshit on yall being the best team in the NFC..
I mean, I know the Dolphin are an AFC powerhouse and all, but come on...
...
Joey Slugs
11-05-2006, 05:57 PM
Coming in to today's game: the Bears had the #1 offense, #1 defense, #1 special teams unit.
Kris P Lettus
11-05-2006, 06:01 PM
So on paper yall beat a 1-7 team..
All those great statistical triumphs didn't really help in REAL LIFE..
Kris P Lettus
11-05-2006, 06:02 PM
Too bad games aren't played on paper..
If they were, Reggie Bush would have over 1000 yards and like 15 TDs already..
Again, it's too bad stats only matter in fantasy..
Joey Slugs
11-05-2006, 06:19 PM
Wow... the Saints have one good year in the last 20 and fucking people becomes assholes. Nice job Leafy.
RoXer
11-05-2006, 06:23 PM
Good one, Beary.
ClockShot
11-05-2006, 06:55 PM
Wow. What happened today. The Bears lost to the Dolphins. Slick Vick walks into the Motor City only to be eaten alive. The Giants barely escape the Texans.
Talk about a huge backfire in alot of fantasy leagues.
Evil Vito
11-05-2006, 07:01 PM
<font color=goldenrod>Sloppy game today, but a win's a win
If Strahan is out for any length of time though, talk about screwed.
Hopefully Strahan, Madison, Osi, Plax, and Short can all be ready for the Bears next week</font>
Calm down, fellows. If you guys remember, the only loss the 1985 Bears had was to the Dolphins, a game everyone thought Chicago will dominate.
Upsets happen. Your record has no indication as to how you're going to play in certain contexts or situations. Both Chicago and Atlanta are going to make the playoffs this year; all these games are are momentary lapses.
Jesus Shuttlesworth
11-05-2006, 07:19 PM
My views on Chicago don't change after one fluke loss to the Miami Dolphins
Jesus Shuttlesworth
11-05-2006, 07:21 PM
Wow just saw an interesting stat line during the Steelers game, showed that the Steelers are statisticly right around the same area as they where last season (Like total offense, rush offense, total defense etc)
weather vane
11-05-2006, 08:18 PM
ahahah vikes
Kris P Lettus
11-05-2006, 08:27 PM
Wow... the Saints have one good year in the last 20 and fucking people becomes assholes. Nice job Leafy.
LOL
Until today, the Bears were the best team in the NFC.. You know, the same NFC that my team plays in..
Settle down..
Kris P Lettus
11-05-2006, 08:28 PM
Wow just saw an interesting stat line during the Steelers game, showed that the Steelers are statisticly right around the same area as they where last season (Like total offense, rush offense, total defense etc)
But they prolly have like 20 more turnovers..
I mean, Big Ben threw for over 400 yards today..
He also turned the ball over 6 times..
Jesus Shuttlesworth
11-05-2006, 08:43 PM
Yeah that was my point
One of those turnovers was kind of BS though, he just hucked it down field on a 3rd and 19 and it ended up working out since Champ picked it off at like 3 yard line.
D Mac
11-05-2006, 09:07 PM
LOL at Supreme.
WE NOW HAVE A BETTER RECORD THEN YOU.
Jesus Shuttlesworth
11-05-2006, 09:11 PM
SO MUCH FOR NOT DRINKING TONIGHT
FUCK THE COLTS
McLegend
11-05-2006, 09:44 PM
Where was the tauting?
Kris P Lettus
11-05-2006, 10:26 PM
Yeah..
That was a complete bullshit call, unless they just didn't catch it on the replay..
Joey Slugs
11-05-2006, 10:33 PM
LOL
Until today, the Bears were the best team in the NFC.. You know, the same NFC that my team plays in..
Settle down..
Bears still have a one game lead in the NFC over the Giants and Saints.
Kris P Lettus
11-05-2006, 10:36 PM
I realize this..
They still lost to one of the shittiest teams in the league..
OssMan
11-05-2006, 10:42 PM
BOB SANDERZ
OssMan
11-05-2006, 10:44 PM
lol at mario williams sackin manning and doin the jumpshot also :cool:
OssMan
11-05-2006, 10:45 PM
Shut the fuck up KRIS P LETTUS the bears are good and are better than the saints
Kris P Lettus
11-05-2006, 10:48 PM
lol
Kris P Lettus
11-05-2006, 10:49 PM
Giants almost lost to the f'n Texans..
Kris P Lettus
11-05-2006, 10:53 PM
Colston was 00.2% away from being the player of the week..
I should have voted..
:wavesad:
DaveWadding
11-05-2006, 11:09 PM
VINATIERI FUCK YEAH
Jesus Shuttlesworth
11-06-2006, 12:11 AM
FUCK
10 minutes left down 10
COME ON MOTHERFUCKERS
McLegend
11-06-2006, 12:30 AM
lol 2 missed field goald by Vintari.
It's time for the Golden boy.
McLegend
11-06-2006, 12:31 AM
Kevin Faulk killed the Patriots tonight
Jesus Shuttlesworth
11-06-2006, 12:31 AM
Way to blow the fuckin game Faulk, not only did you drop a TD you also go and tip a ball straight into Cato June's hands to win the game
ARE YOU FUCKIN KIDDIN ME
WHERE'S YOUR TOM BRADY NOW!!!
Jesus Shuttlesworth
11-06-2006, 12:44 AM
Bob Sanders is a fucking beast I'll give you that
2 of Brady's INTs where bullshit though, tipped balls right into a defender's hands :-\
Oh well, atleast Vinateri missed 2 FGs
Jesus Shuttlesworth
11-06-2006, 12:45 AM
5 turnovers againest the Colts and only losing by a TD, I'll take that as well.
Nah, i agree, Brady got screwed by Faulk, but man, pretty tasteless imo by New England booing Vinateri for " leaving for the better contract " as Madden and Michaels put it. Tasteless cause the Patriots had so much room under the cap and refused to give him a couple more 100k's.
5 turnovers againest the Colts and only losing by a TD, I'll take that as well.
A loss is a loss.
Jesus Shuttlesworth
11-06-2006, 12:51 AM
Yeah a win in November is a win in November
Just saying, its not like last year when they got housed.
Jesus Shuttlesworth
11-06-2006, 12:54 AM
Nah, i agree, Brady got screwed by Faulk, but man, pretty tasteless imo by New England booing Vinateri for " leaving for the better contract " as Madden and Michaels put it. Tasteless cause the Patriots had so much room under the cap and refused to give him a couple more 100k's.
Dude this Boston, did you really think they where going to cheer him while he was on the Colts? It was like the Johnny Damon thing, if Vinateri went to like the Vikings or something he would have been getting cheers. He didn't though, so he is getting boo'd. I am sure he can take it, he makes 3 million to kick a football.
Crimson
11-06-2006, 01:01 AM
lmao
It's nothing like the Johnny Damon issue. Damon said he wouldnt leave for more money and he did, to Bostons biggest rival. Adam just wanted a few more hundred thousands, cause he's worth it and the Patriots were like 13 million or more under the cap. And they refused. After all he's done for that team. Tom Brady would have 2 less rings if it werent for tha guy. He's not worth 200,000 more? Give me a break. And lets not try to spin this as " He's lost his touch " or " He's no longer clutch " cause he missed 2 field goals tonight. I dont need to refer any further back then last week when he kicked on down the middle to beat the Broncos. I get booing him, but if i was a New England fan, i'd show some respect.
I think this is the year the Colts make it to the Super Bowl. Really, I suppose a team like the Patriots or the Chargers could make it to the AFC championship game, but no other team in the AFC has a Super Bowl feel to them at this point.
Jesus Shuttlesworth
11-06-2006, 01:30 AM
It's nothing like the Johnny Damon issue. Damon said he wouldnt leave for more money and he did, to Bostons biggest rival. Adam just wanted a few more hundred thousands, cause he's worth it and the Patriots were like 13 million or more under the cap. And they refused. After all he's done for that team. Tom Brady would have 2 less rings if it werent for tha guy. He's not worth 200,000 more? Give me a break. And lets not try to spin this as " He's lost his touch " or " He's no longer clutch " cause he missed 2 field goals tonight. I dont need to refer any further back then last week when he kicked on down the middle to beat the Broncos. I get booing him, but if i was a New England fan, i'd show some respect.
While I agree I kinda wish the Patriots did just resign Vintiari, I think they felt different. Pretty sure he has already missed 2 games this season..hasn't he?
Also, it was more than a difference of $20,000 dollars, so I really don't know where you get your stats sometimes (probably outta your ass)
It was a small percentage of the salary cap though, so yeah I was pretty surprised when they didn't resign him but I've yet to see game where this choice has hurt them. It didn't even hurt the Patriots tonight while playing the Colts, since Vinatieri missed 2 kicks.
And it is like the Damon thing, people would still boo Damon even if he never said that thing about taking more money. This is Boston man, I don't know why are so shocked by this (especially from guy like you, I can't believe you are really talking about booing someone being tasteless)
Also, it was more than a difference of $20,000 dollars, so I really don't know where you get your stats sometimes (probably outta your ass)
I said 200,000 more and it was from NFL.com. But thanks for reading. Goodbye
Corndad
11-06-2006, 01:40 AM
Freakin had Brady on my fantasy team.
4 TD's last week.... 4 ints this week. Damn man.
Oh and when you start complaining about QB situations try having Worthlisburger as your "Francise QB" that the Coach refused to bench regardless of how many terrible throws he makes.
I've never seen a team have so much offense and blow it so often in at like the 5 then I do this year with my Steelers.
Oh well, True fans stay on the wagon I suppose. Top 10 pick here we come baby!
Jesus Shuttlesworth
11-06-2006, 01:44 AM
I said 200,000 more and it was from NFL.com. But thanks for reading. Goodbye
Pretty sure its more than just a different of 200,000 too though, you have to take into account the signing bonus - the amount of money spread out over the years of the contract etc. Pretty sure it was something like 1 million more a year.
Still though, this move has yet to really hurt the Patriots so I dunno. I personally wouldn't have boo'd Vintieri if I was there but I'm not really surprised he did get boo'd. I don't see why this matters though, and I don't see how you can call it "tasteless"
BCWWF
11-06-2006, 02:26 AM
I think it is a completely legitimate thing for Pats fans to boo him. It isn't the same exact thing as Damon, but it is very similar. The Pats of the last five or six years and the 2003-04 Red Sox have become cult teams, teams that will be remembered for generations. Johnny Damon was probably the most identifyable player on the Red Sox because of the hair and everything, and then he turned his back on this team and went to the biggest rivals for more money.
For Adam (can't spell last name), it was very similar. When you talk about the Patriots dynasty, there are really two names that stick out more than others: Tom Brady and Adam Vinatieri. There were a lot of other big players, but those two played a huge role in both Super Bowls, and forever would have been heros in New England. The fact of the matter is that kickers are replaceable. AV had some game winning kicks, but he is not the only kicker in the league who would have hit both of those, like the Miz always says, he just got the opportunity and converted it. The whole system of the Patriots is to not overpay players, and this guy is a fucking kicker. He can stay, be in this system, and be forever a hero in Boston. Instead, he goes to the Colts. Not neccessarily the Yankees, but fuck, they are about the biggest rivals the Patriots have. More than that, they are the Patriots bitch. So leaving the Pats for the Colts is almost sad, I look down on him for it. Like Stima said, if he went to just about any other team, even a team in the division, it wouldn't have been as stupid.
Basically, this was a really long winded explanation, but Vinatieri took more money. That is completely reasonable, a lot of players do it. He also went to a team that gives him a good chance of winning another Super Bowl. What makes it dumb are his reasons for leaving. Whenever an icon of a dynasty or really famous team leaves for more money, he will get booed.
I'm pretty sure Roy Williams of the Lions, smokes a bag of really nice quality crack before he talks to the media after the games.
D Mac
11-06-2006, 05:13 AM
http://cdn.news.aol.com/aolnews_photos/0f/05/20061106031509990001
DaveWadding
11-06-2006, 05:56 AM
I think this is the year the Colts make it to the Super Bowl. Really, I suppose a team like the Patriots or the Chargers could make it to the AFC championship game, but no other team in the AFC has a Super Bowl feel to them at this point.
Broncos? Who beat both the Pats and the Steelers...and still get no respect.
Jesus Shuttlesworth
11-06-2006, 10:46 AM
Broncos? Who beat both the Pats and the Steelers...and still get no respect.
Steelers? lol
Mr. Monday Morning
11-06-2006, 11:03 AM
Calm down, fellows. If you guys remember, the only loss the 1985 Bears had was to the Dolphins, a game everyone thought Chicago will dominate.
Upsets happen. Your record has no indication as to how you're going to play in certain contexts or situations. Both Chicago and Atlanta are going to make the playoffs this year; all these games are are momentary lapses.
I have a hard time believing Atlanta will get into the playoffs.
D Mac
11-06-2006, 04:28 PM
I think this is the year the Colts make it to the Super Bowl. Really, I suppose a team like the Patriots or the Chargers could make it to the AFC championship game, but no other team in the AFC has a Super Bowl feel to them at this point.
CHIEFS
I havent even said anything about that second TD catch Marvin Harrison had last night. Which words cant really describe how amazing it was.
I'm just used to it i guess.
Skippord
11-06-2006, 06:07 PM
Broncos? Who beat both the Pats and the Steelers...and still get no respect.
Gonzo
11-06-2006, 06:18 PM
K so the Pats Colts game was pretty titties. Can't believe the Pats were even in it after all those turnovers. The Troy Brown taunting call was BS, but that catch by Harrison was SICK.
I dont think he taunted at all, but if you're a field ref and you see him throw the ball towards the LB who just ran him out, you probably call that everytime.
Colts are 30-3 in there last 33 regular season games. Fuck we need a superbowl.
Broncos? Who beat both the Pats and the Steelers...and still get no respect.
The Broncos are great except where it matters: quarterback. Last year was about as good as they're going to get. They'll make the playoffs this year, yeah, but unless they get home field advantage somehow, they aren't going anywhere.
AlphaBean
11-07-2006, 02:44 AM
I think this is the year the Colts make it to the Super Bowl. Really, I suppose a team like the Patriots or the Chargers could make it to the AFC championship game, but no other team in the AFC has a Super Bowl feel to them at this point.
ROFL. Don't forget... the Colts are going undefeated this year, too. 19-0.
But honestly, at this point, it's the absolute WORST time for the Colts to have a "Super Bowl" feel.
Now, if they still have that feel in 6 weeks without getting ass raped by Shawne "Lights Out" Merriman and the Chargers, like they did last year, which was followed by James Dungy (lol) followed by Vanderjagt... then we'll talk.
But remember: Last year, the Steelers didn't have the Super Bowl feel, either. Until they ran the board for the last half of the season and the playoffs. Momentum is a huge thing, and when you start strong, it's almost impossible to keep that momentum going for 22 weeks. (Reg season Bye, First round Bye, Superbowl week included)
Skippord
11-07-2006, 03:43 AM
The Broncos are great except where it matters: quarterback. Last year was about as good as they're going to get. They'll make the playoffs this year, yeah, but unless they get home field advantage somehow, they aren't going anywhere.
Plummer is fine, and Javon Walker is the man
D Mac
11-07-2006, 04:00 AM
Nah they suck
ROFL. Don't forget... the Colts are going undefeated this year, too. 19-0.
But honestly, at this point, it's the absolute WORST time for the Colts to have a "Super Bowl" feel.
Now, if they still have that feel in 6 weeks without getting ass raped by Shawne "Lights Out" Merriman and the Chargers, like they did last year, which was followed by James Dungy (lol) followed by Vanderjagt... then we'll talk.
But remember: Last year, the Steelers didn't have the Super Bowl feel, either. Until they ran the board for the last half of the season and the playoffs. Momentum is a huge thing, and when you start strong, it's almost impossible to keep that momentum going for 22 weeks. (Reg season Bye, First round Bye, Superbowl week included)
Chargers dont play the Colts this year.
Gonzo
11-07-2006, 04:30 PM
Man Strahan out 2-4 weeks, possibly longer. This blows, this is the same shit that happened to us last year.
As far as I know we have injuries to Osi, Strahan, Madison, Tuck, Short, Arrington and thats just on defense. Plaxico didn't play this week against Houston because of back spasms (I assume he'll be back) and even Toomer was hobbling around at one point during that game. I swear if this season gets fucked by injuries again I'm going on a rampage.
Kris P Lettus
11-07-2006, 06:00 PM
I am so tired of people talking shgit about how Reggie Bush doesn't have the stats to back up his hype.. The simple fact that two of the TD passes Drew Brees threw were because the Bucs D bit on Bush play action, is enough for me to love him.. Fuck stats.. He's the biggest decoy in the NFL..
As long as we're winning, I could care less how he effects your fantasy team..
Kris P Lettus
11-07-2006, 06:03 PM
That was a random rant for random people who talk shit to me about Bush, in real life..
The Outlaw
11-07-2006, 06:10 PM
A. The Colts don't play the Chargers.
B. Shawne "Lights Out" Merriman needs to put the illegal substances down.
C. Vanderjagt isn't on the team this year.
Kris P Lettus
11-07-2006, 06:14 PM
They might play them, in the playoffs..
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