NFL 2006 Season Thread

[Kris P Lettus]

Supposedly the Dolphins bought film that had audio of Tom Brady's signals..

LOL

You fucking lost.. Get over it..

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Gotta cheat to beat the Pats :shifty:

[AlphaBean]

LOL at Hester possibly getting nothing but a pro bowl invite for his record-breaking season. Fuck, watching that video, he has crazy vision. He should line up at HB sometimes.

[Triple A]

What do you mean nothing but a pro bowl invite? What else should he get? He is a kick returner (and only a punt returner until two weeks ago) who has broken a few big ones. I don't think he is more deserving than others for rookie of the year or any shit like that.

[Joey Slugs]

What do you mean nothing but a pro bowl invite? What else should he get? He is a kick returner (and only a punt returner until two weeks ago) who has broken a few big ones. I don't think he is more deserving than others for rookie of the year or any shit like that.

A few?

Hmmm... I think you need to return to the rock you live under.

Let's put it this way... only 6 people in the entire history of the NFL have ever returned 2 kickoffs for TDs. Only. Six. In. History. That is A LOT of NFL games. And now a rookie is one of them.

Oh yeah... and the record he broke last night has ben sitting still since 1971. 35 years.

This is also just some "punt returner" that was the main headline on ESPN.com, NFL.com, SI.com, NBCsports.com, and various other sports websites.

If it's not the Jets... just stay quiet.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I think he has averaged like 14.5 yards per punt return, I guess a few of his longer returns skew that average but still...pretty ridiculous.

I dunno about MVP or any of that shit, I could see him getting Defensive Rookie of the Year though.

Also Joey Sluggs, I'd like to add to your last line...if anyone says anything negative about Bears... just flip out about it.

[Triple A]

I am not saying he is terrible. Obviously he is a ridiculously good kick returner but a lot of kick returning is luck too. If you happen to get some good blocks here and there or if the coverage team blows its assignments, you can break a big return and it's not just because of your pure amazing kick returning talent.

HE IS A KICK RETURNER. He is not an every down guy.

Vince Young and Reggie Bush are both more deserving than him, not to mention a few others too. Maybe defensive ROY but he doesn't even really play defense so I don't think he should even get that.

[Joey Slugs]

Also Joey Sluggs, I'd like to add to your last line...if anyone says anything negative about Bears... just flip out about it.

Has nothing to do with him being on the Bears. I'm not about to start talking about Hester for MVP like RP is, but I find it funny that someone like AAA can pretty much say that just because this guy is a punt returner... he doesn't deserve award talk.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I am not saying he is terrible. Obviously he is a ridiculously good kick returner but a lot of kick returning is luck too. If you happen to get some good blocks here and there or if the coverage team blows its assignments, you can break a big return and it's not just because of your pure amazing kick returning talent.

HE IS A KICK RETURNER. He is not an every down guy.

Vince Young and Reggie Bush are both more deserving than him, not to mention a few others too. Maybe defensive ROY but he doesn't even really play defense so I don't think he should even get that.
Well he just started playing defense recently, but I think he'd be pretty deserving of the defensive award just because of his work in the kick/punt return game.

I'd say its gonna come down to him or DeMaco Ryans...or maybe AJ Hawk but I really haven't heard TOO much about Hawk, but I do know he plays like every down so maybe.

[Joey Slugs]

I am not saying he is terrible. Obviously he is a ridiculously good kick returner but a lot of kick returning is luck too. If you happen to get some good blocks here and there or if the coverage team blows its assignments, you can break a big return and it's not just because of your pure amazing kick returning talent.

HE IS A KICK RETURNER. He is not an every down guy.

Vince Young and Reggie Bush are both more deserving than him, not to mention a few others too. Maybe defensive ROY but he doesn't even really play defense so I don't think he should even get that.

I don't see Young and Bush breaking 35 year old records right now. So don't start saying that there are more guys more deserving than Hester right now.

Hester's TD returns and overall return yardage has a lot to do with how many points the team can put on the board since they are able to play on a shorter field thanks to him.

Oh yeah.... and he has already (pretty much) single handedly won a game this year.

[Joey Slugs]

awww. I got neg reped by AAA. did I hurt your feelings boss?

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Vince Young has single handly won a few games this year too though, but I don't see why Bush, Young and Hester can't all be canidates. They all are, it's not like one guy is head and shoulders above the rest (Well Hester is gonna be a canidate for a defensive, while Bush and Young will be offensive but you get the point)

[Triple A]

One of his returns was a ridiculous FG return for a TD when basically the entire Giants team just fell asleep so he would not have broken the record if it wasn't for that. And I think it's safe to assume that at least a couple of his returns were more luck/blown coverage/good blocking than him making it happen completely on his own. AGAIN I am acknowledging that he IS really good obviously but I am not going to start sucking his dick saying he is the most amazing rookie I have ever seen like everyone else is doing. If he returns a couple more by the rest of the season/playoffs though, I will start calling him Superman and admit I am wrong but not yet.

[Triple A]

awww. I got neg reped by AAA. did I hurt your feelings boss?
Yes.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I dunno everyone sucked Dante Hall's dick a few years back

[Nervous Ferret]

Oh, you mean "The Human Joystick" Dante Hall?

[Kris P Lettus]

Michael "Beerman" Lewis

[Kris P Lettus]

Michael "Beerman" Stima

[RP]

Terrance " I got nothing " Wilkins.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Well he just started playing defense recently, but I think he'd be pretty deserving of the defensive award just because of his work in the kick/punt return game.

I'd say its gonna come down to him or DeMaco Ryans...or maybe AJ Hawk but I really haven't heard TOO much about Hawk, but I do know he plays like every down so maybe.

Be pretty funny if the guy the Texans drafted in the 2nd round got DROY while the guy they drafted in the 1st gets no mention :$

As far as OROY Young is really coming up fast. For me it's about the impact a player makes on the team, Colston has done really well but the Saints have shown they can still play well without him and put up points - right now Young as a starter has a winning record, with the freaking TITANS. That deserves some serious praise.

[Gonzo]

To be honest I was going to say that although I think Hester is good but I don't think he is anything terribly special but figured it wasn't worth the idiotic backlash that would be given.

Of that one video that was posted in this thread with Hester's returns, only one really impressed me, the one I think against the Vikings where he was dead to rights but escaped like 4 defenders. I'm with Trips on the whole Giants one, they played poor football on that play and even then no one on a field goal team is going to catch the guy, they are all lineman and LB's.

Hester is good but isn't that "wow" type impressive to me.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I dunno, if it is so easy to return this kicks I don't get why it doesn't happen more often. Pretty hard to get "lucky" that many times. I can see you not thinking what he has done is worthy of Rookie of the Year, but saying he has no "wow" factor is pretty dumb.

[Joey Slugs]

I dunno, if it is so easy to return this kicks I don't get why it doesn't happen more often. Pretty hard to get "lucky" that many times. I can see you not thinking what he has done is worthy of Rookie of the Year, but saying he has no "wow" factor is pretty dumb.

Like I said to AAA... Hester is only the 6th guy in NFL history to return 2 kickoffs for TDs (that is A LOT of games). And no one has returned 6 in a season until now.

If that doesn't "wow" you... football isn't your game.

[Joey Slugs]

This is when Hester was known as "Anytime" down in Miami:

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Here is the updated highlight reel (including the game on Monday night):

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[Kris P Lettus]

Like I said to AAA... Hester is only the 6th guy in NFL history to return 2 kickoffs for TDs (that is A LOT of games). And no one has returned 6 in a season until now.

If that doesn't "wow" you... football isn't your game.

Records are broken on a weekly basis..

[AlphaBean]

Yeah seriously, the guy is awesome and you can't doubt that.

But the fact remains, there's no way he should be considered for offensive, defensive ROY or MVP. He just shouldn't. Mainly because he only plays special teams. And to say he plays defense is like saying Brad Johnson plays Quarterback. Sure, he's there on the field, but if you had someone better you'd probably put him in.

I'm not knocking the guy, I'm knocking the system that has no love for special teamers outside of the Pro Bowl. Maybe it's time they came out with, to a lesser extent, Special Teams rookie of the year.

And yeah, MVP would be fucking hilarious when you're on the same planet as Ladanian Tomlinson...

[Kris P Lettus]

Didn't Reggie Bush break a rookie TD record when he scored 4 on one game??

Let me go find some videos of him in college..

[Joey Slugs]

To be honest I was going to say that although I think Hester is good but I don't think he is anything terribly special but figured it wasn't worth the idiotic backlash that would be given.

Of that one video that was posted in this thread with Hester's returns, only one really impressed me, the one I think against the Vikings where he was dead to rights but escaped like 4 defenders. I'm with Trips on the whole Giants one, they played poor football on that play and even then no one on a field goal team is going to catch the guy, they are all lineman and LB's.

Hester is good but isn't that "wow" type impressive to me.

Not going to start with the backlash, but I do want to point something out. Even though the return against the Giants might not of been the most impressive (it is an NFL record though) it had nothing to do with the Giants playing bad football. If you watch the highlight... you will see that the Bears just simply had every Giants on their ass. There were some hard hitting blocks down field that opened up such a huge hole.

I'm sorry that he doesn't "wow" you like he does us here in Chicago... but stima is right... if it was so easy... why is the record only 6 right now?

[Joey Slugs]

Yeah seriously, the guy is awesome and you can't doubt that.

But the fact remains, there's no way he should be considered for offensive, defensive ROY or MVP. He just shouldn't. Mainly because he only plays special teams. And to say he plays defense is like saying Brad Johnson plays Quarterback. Sure, he's there on the field, but if you had someone better you'd probably put him in.

I'm not knocking the guy, I'm knocking the system that has no love for special teamers outside of the Pro Bowl. Maybe it's time they came out with, to a lesser extent, Special Teams rookie of the year.

And yeah, MVP would be fucking hilarious when you're on the same planet as Ladanian Tomlinson...

:y:

[Joey Slugs]

Records are broken on a weekly basis..

Oh are they now?

[Kris P Lettus]

Not going to start with the backlash, but I do want to point something out. Even though the return against the Giants might not of been the most impressive (it is an NFL record though) it had nothing to do with the Giants playing bad football. If you watch the highlight... you will see that the Bears just simply had every Giants on their ass. There were some hard hitting blocks down field that opened up such a huge hole.

I'm sorry that he doesn't "wow" you like he does us here in Chicago... but stima is right... if it was so easy... why is the record only 6 right now?

So you are saying it wasn't him by himself, but good blocking by the entire KR team that helped him tie the record??

Kinda proves the point..

[AlphaBean]

First off, that Miami runback was fucking absurd. Not luck, not blocking, just a guy who should gain 15 pounds and play HB.


On the other hand, it was against Duke. Didn't Duke have the longest losing streak in history recently? Dunno... It's not too hard to run through the arm tackles of a bunch of white lacrosse playing rapists.

Second off, back to that "luck and blocking" thing. No no no. People get blocks all the time. And returners usually make the mistake of thinking "I gotta get past this guy," rather than thinking "I Gotta get past the next 5 guys and score a TD."

If you pay close attention to Hester's runbacks, he's not just running scattershot all over the field (except against Duke, which means he CAN he just doesn't usually). He has ridiculous vision for where the running lane will open up, and once he sets his shoulders, he's unstoppable. That's why I think he should be a HB. Run him out of the shotgun so he can view the field, he'll be unstoppable. Even on a WR screen play now and then... or a reverse. Wickeddddddd.

[Kris P Lettus]

Oh are they now?
Almost..

Some record is tied/broken atleast 6 weeks a year..

Baronas' two FG's
LT's TD's
Bush Rookie Recieving Yards
Saints Score 42 in Dallas

etc etc etc

This happens every year..

[AlphaBean]

Didn't Reggie Bush break a rookie TD record when he scored 4 on one game??

Let me go find some videos of him in college..

*cough*Joseph Addai*cough*

[Joey Slugs]

So you are saying it wasn't him by himself, but good blocking by the entire KR team that helped him tie the record??

Kinda proves the point..

Proves what point? It's one thing to get the blocks... and it's another to have the spead and vison (like AB just mentioned) to blow past guys.

This is my point:

Hester is fucking sick. And deserves to be talked about like we are doing right now.

There it is.

[Joey Slugs]

Almost..

Some record is tied/broken atleast 6 weeks a year..

Baronas' two FG's
LT's TD's
Bush Rookie Recieving Yards
Saints Score 42 in Dallas

etc etc etc

This happens every year..

Yeah, but the record we are talking about lasted 35 years.

And how the hell is the Saints' 42 points a record? Maybe IN Dallas, but it's not a NFL record.

[Kris P Lettus]

Yeah but he's no MVP..

Just because he's a great returner doesn't mean he's MVP material..

Two years ago it was Dante Hall.. Year before that It was Michael Lewis..

He is nothing new..

[AlphaBean]

Almost..

Some record is tied/broken atleast 6 weeks a year..

Baronas' two FG's
LT's TD's
Bush Rookie Recieving Yards
Saints Score 42 in Dallas

etc etc etc

This happens every year..

I gotta say, this one is different.

It's nothing compared to LT's TDs, but on the other hand, that record is not even a year old yet. Hahaha Shaun Alexander is gonna come out next year and freak out. He's probably going to kill a safety on the way to a TD trying to get his record back.

I think the Giants thing was a fluke. It was bad play, it was a great playcall, the coach called something out to make the Giants think it was done, it was pretty good blocking, and a nice runback. Those things are pretty, but you can't judge a guy's season on one return. I mean, fuck, he's had 5 more for you to scrutinize. Try them. He was sick in college, he was drafted too high, and is absurd on the pro level. He deserves props. But like I said, who gives a fuck about special teams?

[Kris P Lettus]

Yeah, but the record we are talking about lasted 35 years.

And how the hell is the Saints' 42 points a record? Maybe IN Dallas, but it's not a NFL record.

O_o

It is an NFL record.. Just because it's specific to one stadium doesn negate that..

I'm just saying, you are acting like just because he broke a record, everyone should be on his jock.. As I said, records are broken all the time.. The game/players are just getting better..

[Joey Slugs]

Yeah but he's no MVP..

Just because he's a great returner doesn't mean he's MVP material..

Two years ago it was Dante Hall.. Year before that It was Michael Lewis..

He is nothing new.. And neither of them broke the record. Hmmm....

He might not be anywhere near MVP "material" but he has done just as much for this team as any another top guy in the league. He scores touchdowns and puts his team in a better position to win.

Last time I checked... that's what the MVP award was all about.

So stop downplaying what this kid is doing.

[AlphaBean]

Yeah but he's no MVP..

Just because he's a great returner doesn't mean he's MVP material..

Two years ago it was Dante Hall.. Year before that It was Michael Lewis..

He is nothing new..

He said "talked about like we are right now."

Because that's all he gets. A trip to Honolulu, maybe half a dozen "special team player of the week" awards, and lots of smoke blown up his ass.

The guy can't even get drafted on fantasy leagues. LOL. That's like being the best assistant coach in the NFL right there. You just have to deal with it, and be glad you're giving your team points/wins...

[AlphaBean]

And neither of them broke the record. Hmmm....

He might not be anywhere near MVP "material" but he has done just as much for this team as any another top guy in the league. He scores touchdowns and puts his team in a better position to win.

Last time I checked... that's what the MVP award was all about.

So stop downplaying what this kid is doing.

I believe Joe Nathan of the Twins got a vote or two for MVP in baseball... He's a closer. That's pretty much what Hester is. So he should get 1-2 votes, compared to Tomlinson's 300 votes, so you're right, he should be in consideration. Just not SERIOUS consideration. Do you agree there?

I mean, when you play for the Bears, you're going to see a lot more punts than any other guy in the league.

[Joey Slugs]

O_o

It is an NFL record.. Just because it's specific to one stadium doesn negate that..

I'm just saying, you are acting like just because he broke a record, everyone should be on his jock.. As I said, records are broken all the time.. The game/players are just getting better..

Once again. Stop downplaying the record just because it is on special teams. You keep saying that records are borken all the time yet this record stood since 1971. Doesn't look like that was broken every year does it?

Dude... the Saints scoring 42 points in Dallas doesn't even register as a TEAM record. It is only a record for Texas Stadium. That's it. Stop fooling yourself that it is some great NFL record for the sake of this arguement.

[Joey Slugs]

I believe Joe Nathan of the Twins got a vote or two for MVP in baseball... He's a closer. That's pretty much what Hester is. So he should get 1-2 votes, compared to Tomlinson's 300 votes, so you're right, he should be in consideration. Just not SERIOUS consideration. Do you agree there?

I mean, when you play for the Bears, you're going to see a lot more punts than any other guy in the league.

I agree 100%. RP was the one who brought up Hester for MVP, but I think it's a great idea and should be fun to see him get a few votes here and there.

[Kris P Lettus]

lol

Stop fooling yourself that it is some great NFL record

What's that smell??

Kinda metallic..

Like iron..

[Kris P Lettus]

The Vikings ran back a punt, kick off, and a int last year, for the first time in NFL history, and I don't hear Beans crying because no one cares..

[AlphaBean]

That's because *I* know that was fucking sick.

Also, because Michael Bennett also ran the ball 16 times for 11 yards and Brad Johnson is trash, and the Vikings are a horrible, horrible team.

So I have no right to talk.

BUT LOL@ last year's Giants.

But... yea you gotta give it to Sean Payton for knowing how to play against the team he used to coach. Like Gruden vs the Raiders.

Anyway, yeah, the record is an old record and people are being groomed to be full-time returners, yet nobody -- Hall, Lewis, Darrell Green, Brian Mitchell, that Lions guy from back in the day, none of them ever broke the record.

Also, look at individual records.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I don't see why breaking a record matters. If he had one less TD return I would still think the same of Hester. Like when Manning broke the TD record, it was pretty cool and all but if he had like 3 less TDs my opinion of him wouldn't have changed.

Like I said, everyone was on Hall's dick before but nobody mentioned him for an MVP - at the sametime though Hester is a lot better of a returner then Hall was. Hester is probably going to go down as one of the best returners ever, as long as he doesn't get hurt or something. I'm not just basing this off this year either, check out some of his tapes from The U. Personally I don't think Hester should be considered for the NFL MVP, I mean yeah what he is doing is important but a lot of guys are doing things just as important. Plus, I don't really like the whole MVP thing anyway since it is real subjective about what is suppose to be about, what you have to do to get it etc. Like some people think it should go to the best player, others think it should go the player who helps his team the most, but in the end, it pretty much just goes to the offensive player with the most impressive stats.

I am all for Hester being a canidate for Defenisve Rookie of the Year though

[AlphaBean]

See, I remember in Hall's crazy ass season he got some MVP consideration... again, not serious, because how serious can that be? But the "X-Factor" definitely made some noise.

As I said, even Joe Nathan got a vote or two in the MLB MVP voting... just to be mentioned in the same breath as the big boys should be enough of an award for Hester.

[Joey Slugs]

lol



What's that smell??

Kinda metallic..

Like iron..
Nice way to drop everything else I said.

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Anyways... Hester's return record is somewhere near 1000000000000000X more important than the Saints' putting up 42 on Dallas.

What's that noise?

Over there.....

Sounds like the Simpsons....

Homer?

[Joey Slugs]

The Vikings ran back a punt, kick off, and a int last year, for the first time in NFL history, and I don't hear Beans crying because no one cares..

Why would the Bears be crying about that? That was quite impressive.

[AlphaBean]

He was comparing me to you, because you think Hester deserves more credit.

I think the fact that he's on everybody's "PLAY OF THE YEAR" list should be credit enough.

[Joey Slugs]

I think Hester is getting plenty of love through out the football world. I just think it's funny that some of the "superfans" here don't see the "wow" factor.

[AlphaBean]

I think it's because nobody likes you. I'm willing to overlook my personal feelings, because I know you're just a typical Bears fan and can't help how you are.

Objectively, you can't deny that 6 TDs is fucking insane.

[RP]

What would you think if Hester ran another one back this week? See, those types of plays ( the type he does ) are backbreaking momentum changing plays. Some of those run backs have come at the perfect time to swing games in favor of Chicago. I'm pretty sure Chicago has won every game he's returned one in. Even that Vikings return was huge, that game was horrible and neither QB could make a first down. I think it was either zip/zip or zip/6 or something, but once he returned that punt, it was over for the Vikings.

I know its a stretch, but lets see how everyone feels if he runs back another.

[Joey Slugs]

I think it's because nobody likes you. I'm willing to overlook my personal feelings, because I know you're just a typical Bears fan and can't help how you are.

Objectively, you can't deny that 6 TDs is fucking insane.

Eh. Not being liked on a message board does rate as something to stress about in life.

[Joey Slugs]

What would you think if Hester ran another one back this week? See, those types of plays ( the type he does ) are backbreaking momentum changing plays. Some of those run backs have come at the perfect time to swing games in favor of Chicago. I'm pretty sure Chicago has won every game he's returned one in. Even that Vikings return was huge, that game was horrible and neither QB could make a first down. I think it was either zip/zip or zip/6 or something, but once he returned that punt, it was over for the Vikings.

I know its a stretch, but lets see how everyone feels if he runs back another.

Could you imagine if he has one of his "backbreaking" returns in the Super Bowl? Just imagine a situtation like the one against Arizona (just with a better game). Bears down late in the game, the D makes a big stop to force the punt... Hester runs 70 + yards for the game winning TD.

[Joey Slugs]

And you are right RP, the Bears have won each game that Hester has had a return in.

Green Bay (W)
Arizona (W)
New York (W)
Minnesota (W)
St. Louis - 2 (W)

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I don't even know why this is an argument when Ted Ginn is just gonna break the record in a year or two anyway.

Also Jesus Christ I can't believe I've never seen that punt return against Duke before. That was impressive even if it was against a JV high school team.

[AlphaBean]

Eh. Not being liked on a message board does rate as something to stress about in life.

I feel you there, sTiMa doesn't like me :( and it really breaks my heart, but whatever, I don't act this way IRL so whatever.

And I think the correlation between Chicago wins and Hester runbacks might be overrated when you've only lost 2 games... It's kind of the law of averages... Lots of runbacks, lots of wins. :dunno:

And if you guys make the Superbowl, and face the Chargers, he will never get a chance to return punts... he'll only have several chances at returning the Kickoff after a LT TD for his big run-back. :wave:

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I don't even know why this is an argument when Ted Ginn is just gonna break the record in a year or two anyway.

Also Jesus Christ I can't believe I've never seen that punt return against Duke before. That was impressive even if it was against a JV high school team.He had more then just one run back meng, plus he is a better returner then Ginn so I dunno about Ginn breaking his record.

[Joey Slugs]

I don't even know why this is an argument when Ted Ginn is just gonna break the record in a year or two anyway.

The record stood for 35 years and now you expect some dude to just come out and break it right away? Yeah... Ok.

[RP]

I like Ginn alot, but i think once he gets in the pro's, it'll take one major hit on special teams for him to tighten up like a dolphins asshole.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

The record stood for 35 years and now you expect some dude to just come out and break it right away? Yeah... Ok.
lol come on man even I was "semi-defending" you but lets get serious. You are acting like the record stood for 135 years. Plenty of records get broken back to back (Pretty sure LT just broke Alexander's one year old TD record...no?)

Also when I was in a HS, a kid on my team broke the career scoring record my senior year (which stood for 53 years) then the next year some other kid broke it so it can happen. Granted it was high school, its still football.

[RP]

Stima's "Most penalty yards in one game " record still stands to this day.

[AlphaBean]

How on earth did he get an unnecessary roughness flag on that play? He graduated two years ago!!!

[Kris P Lettus]

What's that noise?

Over there.....

Sounds like the Simpsons....

Homer?

LOL Says the guy who is arguing a kick returner should be the MVP..

You know for a fact that if Hester played for someone eles, you would not be on his jock like you are..

Oh and I was not saying "The Bears" would be crying about anything.. I am saying you are crying because everyone is not on Devin Hester's cock..

[Joey Slugs]

LOL Says the guy who is arguing a kick returner should be the MVP..

You know for a fact that if Hester played for someone eles, you would not be on his jock like you are..

Oh and I was not saying "The Bears" would be crying about anything.. I am saying you are crying because everyone is not on Devin Hester's cock..
Pay attention jackass.

RP started the "Hester for MVP" talk, not me.

I'm arguing the fact that you bring up the 42 points in Dallas like it's some HUGE record, yet you downplay the 6 TD returns.

And if he didn't play for the Bears, I would be just as amazed of what he has done this year... because I am a football fan. I know you'll come back with something witty like "No you wouldn't" but that's fine with me.

And I have already said that Hester is getting plenty of love from the football world, I just find it funny that the "superfans" here are acting like it is nothing... mainly because he doesn't play for their team.

[Kris P Lettus]

Thing is, no one is acting like it's nothing.. You are making a huge deal about it.. As we've been saying, there have been several impressive kick returners in the past few years.. As a "superfan" I know that.. You are questioning everyone eles' knowledge and how big of fans we are, just because no one is wanking to highlight reels of him.. He's good, just not seman worthy..

[Kris P Lettus]

Also, a record is a record.. I could care less..

[LoDownM]

Dante Hall > Hester

[FearedSanctity]

Anyone > Any Broncos returner besides Rod Smith

[LoDownM]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=k2jEfpZV7Po

;)

[Gonzo]

Not going to start with the backlash, but I do want to point something out. Even though the return against the Giants might not of been the most impressive (it is an NFL record though) it had nothing to do with the Giants playing bad football. If you watch the highlight... you will see that the Bears just simply had every Giants on their ass. There were some hard hitting blocks down field that opened up such a huge hole.

I'm sorry that he doesn't "wow" you like he does us here in Chicago... but stima is right... if it was so easy... why is the record only 6 right now?

Like I said the guy is good, I'm not disputing if he is deserving of any awards but I guess I don't get that "wow" from him. I remember the play against Duke in college which was sick. The cat has skills, I'm not denying that.

And on the Giants play, yeah it was bad football, half the Giants were walking off the damn field until they realized what was happening. The Bears did demolish the only guys that got in the way though.

I don't mind seeing the Bears win and Hester is undoubtedly a big part of that. I don't know if Grossman is going to be able to play well down the stretch though.

[AlphaBean]

Dante Hall > Hester

I remember quite a few plays in which Dante Hall ran the complete opposite direction, and the Chiefs blockers got away with several illegal blocks. Hester's runs are almost always clean.

And Hall hasn't done it in years. What happened to him?

[FearedSanctity]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=k2jEfpZV7Po

;)


That play pisses me off not because Denver lost because of it, but because I have NO idea how you can miss so many easy block in the back calls.

Also, one of the Cheifs, after laying a block on the punter stood over him and taunted/celebrated said block. Come on now, seriously. Congratulations on laying out the weakest guy on the team (then Micah Knorr)

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I remember quite a few plays in which Dante Hall ran the complete opposite direction, and the Chiefs blockers got away with several illegal blocks. Hester's runs are almost always clean.

And Hall hasn't done it in years. What happened to him?
Dante Hall's returns where pieces of shit. He got away with so much shit since he was the "human joystick" and everyone sucked his cock and wanted to see a return.

[weather vane]

Thing is, no one is acting like it's nothing.. You are making a huge deal about it.. As we've been saying, there have been several impressive kick returners in the past few years.. As a "superfan" I know that.. You are questioning everyone eles' knowledge and how big of fans we are, just because no one is wanking to highlight reels of him.. He's good, just not seman worthy..

I disagree and I think you are down playing what Hester has done. I don't know why some of you are trying to down play it or care all that much. The guy is an amazing kick returner and it's as simple as that. Should he be considered for any awards? Sure. Should he win any awards? Maybe. I just don't understand why some of you are trying to down play this. Yeah records are broken all the time but this is a 35 year old record. It's not something that should be pushed aside. Look at the highlights, this guy is ridiculous.

[DrA]

Why don't they have a Special Teams Player of a Year anyway? They have the Special Teams Player of the Month and all that.

[DrA]

Alright Krispy, I am too lazy to change the avatar so I just changed the custom title. This is 4908530948543 worse anyway.

[AlphaBean]

Why don't they have a Special Teams Player of a Year anyway? They have the Special Teams Player of the Month and all that.

Because "player of the month" is meaningless, and a "player of the year" would be, too. Except they'd expect some kind of ceremony about it, and in a year where nobody makes big returns, who wins? Rob Bironas? Special Teams Ace Larry Izzo? Or the first-ever linebacker Punt Coverage gunner, Leon Joe?

It's nice in theory, but the last three years, there has been Eddie Drummond and that Bills guy... and while they were the best, it's not like they had a lot of competition.

In the future, I think it will change. I think Hester has shown the NFL that you NEED a return man, even if you have to reach to get him. It will open the door for more pure athletes to enter the draft, and saturate the market for returners. Hester to me seems like the next Antonio Gates, completely changing the game. In turn, that will force teams to spend a lot more money on special teams, and keep their starters in on ST coverage.

[AlphaBean]

Shit, I forgot to use the analogy I had for "Special Teams Player of the Year."

It's like how the Academy Awards has awards for, like, "Best Female Vocal Lead in a Foreign Comedy or Musical Animated Short Film."

Nobody cares. It's still an Oscar, and I bet if the people of TPWW put their heads together, we could EASILY win an Oscar or a Grammy. I mean, Spoken-word albums? Gospel? Some of the categories are so desperately thin, it just makes me wonder why anyone wants to win the "big" ones, when their bagel boy could win an award for "Best Food Service Assistant for a Movie."

YOU KNOW?

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

AlphaBean, if they end up doing what you think with the kick returner thing..in true NFL fashion I bet they totally ignore football speed and just try to find the fastest guy possible. They've been doing it for wide recievers for years (Bethal Johnson?)

[DrA]

Well, you could give it to a kicker or punter or something as well. I could see a huge variety for candidates for most years.

[AlphaBean]

AlphaBean, if they end up doing what you think with the kick returner thing..in true NFL fashion I bet they totally ignore football speed and just try to find the fastest guy possible. They've been doing it for wide recievers for years (Bethal Johnson?)

The Texans did work out that track star guy after all...

And the Vikings DID draft Michael Bennett and Troy Williamson...

lol, and now Bethel Johnson is our best KR and deep threat. :lol:

And who the fuck would want to see a Kicker or Punter winning any type of award? They don't do anything. Just having a job in the NFL should be enough reward for them to be happy. It's extremely fleeting.

Just look at the most accurate kicker of all time. Go ahead, look at him. Where did he go?

[Joey Slugs]

The Texans did work out that track star guy after all...


I was just going to bring that up. :y:

[DrA]

That would be so awesome if Justin Gatlin signed with some team. If I were the Texans, since they blew BOTH Reggie Bush and Vince Young, iI would put him on the team in a heartbeat.

[Kris P Lettus]

I was just gonna get you to use my avatar, but whatever..

Who Dat??

[AlphaBean]

ROFL @ when Drew Brees said "Who Dat" in the post-game interview. He's such a white guy.

[Gonzo]

That play pisses me off not because Denver lost because of it, but because I have NO idea how you can miss so many easy block in the back calls.

Also, one of the Cheifs, after laying a block on the punter stood over him and taunted/celebrated said block. Come on now, seriously. Congratulations on laying out the weakest guy on the team (then Micah Knorr)

Not to try to split hairs because I've seen the play you're talking about and yeah its BS, but I would wager illegal blocks and to a great degree holding happens on every play. Its just a matter of whether or not players get caught. I do however think its quite ridiculous when blatant penalties get the no call.

Happened in the Giants game this past weekend, I don't know if anyone saw it here but Tim Carter was under cut the receiver in a diving motion to catch the ball and the defender was falling backwards, and as he did grabbed onto Carter's arm and started to pull it as he fell. Carter dropped the pass as a result. The referee was standing 10 yards away at a perfect angle to see the penalty...no flag. Such bullshit.

[DrA]

Having a live NFL game every Thursday is beginning to gradually ruin the NFL, especially when it's on a network that I don't even fucking get anymore. What are they thinking here?

[DrA]

You know what it is? The gamblers. They're going to have a game every day of the week on "national" TV so the addictive gamblers can bet on more games.

[FearedSanctity]

Having a live NFL game every Thursday is beginning to gradually ruin the NFL, especially when it's on a network that I don't even fucking get anymore. What are they thinking here?

Sopcast, duuuuude. Watching that shit right now. Sucks. You're not missing anything at all.

[DrA]

I do indeed have SopCast and am watching the game on SopCast at the moment. But why would I want to watch a game on the internet, especially on a low quality, half-sized screen? What is that?

[FearedSanctity]

"Seahawks looking to keep the dream alive -drive alive."
"I knew it was drive, not dream."


LOL, fire him already

[FearedSanctity]

Better than nothing is what it is. Though for this particular game, not much better. Shit's nice to have when you're the fan of a team in another state though. I live in Texas, so getting a Bronco game when we have the Texans and Cowboys isn't likely. And watching a small, shitty stream is a lot better than reading the play-by-play on NFL.com or something.

[DrA]

The thing is they shouldn't be having games on Thursday every week anyway. I like it at the end of the season when they have a couple of games on Saturday or whatever, but starting at week 10 to play games on Thursday just messes everything up.

This has been a horrible season for NFL telecasts actually. I like the way NBC presents the game, but everything feels so different this year, and I do not like that.

[DrA]

Not to mention I have to watch the Dallas Cowboy game on UPN this Saturday. That's repulsive.

[OssMan]

It's on UPN but its just the telecast of NFL network

[FearedSanctity]

Yeah, I agree with you on the Thursday game thing. I liked how last year the last few weeks they had a couple games on Saturday, but on channels like CBS and FOX.

Sucks about the UPN thing though. I remember the last Cowboy game I watched on UPN(or WB) a couple years ago. Hated everything about it presentation wise. If I remember rigth, Cowboys got shut out or something, like, 41-0 by the Raiders. Preseason though.

[DrA]

Went to that game.

[FearedSanctity]

Ah, sorry? :lol:

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Yeah I like college games being on Thrusday nights, but NFL games just don't seem right.

The production of the games is fucking awful, the colors look like real dull or something I can't put my figner on it exactly but it just looks like shit. They also have Brian Gumble and Chris Collinsworth annoucning the game.

Are they doing this for the rest of the season? If so, this will be the last time I am able to watch since I am done with finals next Thrusday and I only have NFL Network in my dorm and not at home.

[FearedSanctity]

Yeah it's for the rest of the season, but based on the schedule, you won't be missing much.

Minnesota @ Green Bay
Kansas City @ Oakland
NY Giants @ Washington

[OssMan]

Cris Collinsworth: "Alex Smith's the best I've ever seen"

[FearedSanctity]

And wtf is with them riding Vernon Davis' shit hard about his penalty? I mean, I'm sure he knew he couldn't use a prop, but I'm sure no one figured it'd be that much of a problem if he just put his foot on the pylon.

[DrA]

"Whenever someone complained in the locker room, Steve Hutchinson was always right in their face."

lol what a prick.

[DrA]

To any of you who said that the Seahawks will go to the Super Bowl: no they aren't.

[OssMan]

the seahawks are seriously given 6 free wins a year, how do they not win these games

[FearedSanctity]

lol "NOBODY IN FRONT OF HIM"

Yeah, but that doesn't matter when there's like, 5 dudes within 2 yards of him

[weather vane]

Nah the Thursday night games are the bees knees.

[AlphaBean]

Yeah it's for the rest of the season, but based on the schedule, you won't be missing much.

Minnesota @ Green Bay
Kansas City @ Oakland
NY Giants @ Washington

All three division rivalry games. Those are more often than not, good games if you like football. Those are the types of games where a team that wins all other 15 games (the Vikings) loses the one game to their division rival, who sucks (the Bucs), because nobody knows you better than your rival.

[FearedSanctity]

Yeah, but usually atleast decent teams have to be playing. Not, you know, the Raiders.

But yeah, I can see your point as to why someone might be interested.

[DrA]

God, this season has been like Madden on autopick where they have the computer pick games for the season and like 9-7 is the best record in the game.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Frank Gore

[Team Sheep]

Lmao at how much Gumble and Collinsworth couldn't stop laying the shit on Alex Smith, saying he was not good enough for the NFL, yadda yadda. Then they were basically down on their knees licking his balls by the 4th quarter.

(He did play a class 2nd half though ;) )

[AlphaBean]

I'd rather someone make bold statements and be wrong than be a huge idiot and state the obvious, or mimick what he's heard others saying.

Like the people on Brad Johnson's jock... did they ever watch him play?

Alex Smith is 22 years old and he plays on the 49ers. What the fuck do they expect? 18 years younger than Brad Johnson with a worse defense and playing just as well, or better.

[RP]

Alex Smith will be the greatest QB to ever play the game when its all said and done.

[RP]

Alex Smith will be the greatest QB to ever play the game when its all said and done.

Joking

I think Alex Smith will be a great QB. Last year i was thinking he was going to be horrible, but he's honestly progressed a ton this year. He isnt making as many mistakes and he's alot more confident in his game. I think next year we'll start to see him make a run for a Pro Bowl spot. The 49ers need some pass rushers and a really explosive reciever. If they get that, they'll win there division for alot of years to come.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Norv Turner

[DrA]

ahahahahaha

Quincy Carter was in jail for marijuana possession for twelve hours on a $120 bail, and it took the local radio personality here in Dallas to bail him out because no one else would.

[YOUR Hero]

why'd he bail him out:?:

Shoulda left himin there.

[Crimson]

Fuckin Cowboys are making Vick look like Peyton Manning out there ....ridiculous,no way Cowboys have a chance at the superbowl the way they're playing.

[AlphaBean]

ROMENTUM! Thank you Cowboys... helping take down one of the threats to the Vikings miniscule playoff hopes...

Also, WTF at Marion Barber. How many TDs does that kid have? He's unbelievable. GO GOPHERS!

[RP]

"But, T.O. being T.O., there had to be some controversy, too.

Afterward, Hall said that Owens spit in his face when the Falcons' cornerback came out jawing on the very first play.

"I lost all respect for the guy," Hall said. "We were kind of walking face to face, walking back to the huddle, and he just hauled off and spit in my face."


:love: T.O


P.S. I had no clue the Vikings were still in the playoff hunt and honestly, sometimes i forget the Vikings are even in the NFL still. :-\

[Crimson]

T.O I guess even admitted he did that. No excuse for that ,it is disgusting..no room for that anywhere.

That being said...WHERE YOU AT D-HALL? STILL BURNED TWICE BY T.O. :)

[Nervous Ferret]

Chad Pennington has about 250 passing yards in the first half here :-\

[Crippla]

27-0

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Elis Hobbs 93 yard return for a TD woooop

[RP]

I thought Kyle Boller was baned from being a QB. What happend?

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Samuel with INT #8

Carr was thrown 4 today

[Nervous Ferret]

Vikes bvrought in Tavarias Jackson. I thought Brooks Bollinger was #2 there. :(

[Mr. Monday Morning]

I think the Champagne of Quarterbacks got injured the other week when he was brought in

[Nervous Ferret]

T Jack is lighting up the Jets Prevent :-\

[DrA]

wooo Cowboys in the playoffs no matter what

[FearedSanctity]

Cutler :love:

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I really think all 16 New York Giants games are going to broadcasted in Boston, so fucking annoying. CAN I SEE ANY OTHER NFC TEAM??? Fuck

[McLegend]

Why did Jeff Garcia have to spike that ball? Christ

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

lol he a threw a pass directly into Will Demps chest

[McLegend]

God Damnit. Stupid Fuckin Eagles

[McLegend]

I knew Jeff Garcia's 1st interception was going to be thrown in a crucial part of this game

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Nice snag by LJ Smith, Eagles still got a real good chance here. Seem to be driving and they are only down by 1. Giants are a joke

[McLegend]

The Eagles will lose in the last second

[McLegend]

29-22 Eagles.

Eagles are going to blow this

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

ROFLLL I don't think they are going to after that hahahah

[McLegend]

Eli Manning Int. 36-22 Eagles :cool:

Eli is on my fantasy team though :-\

[McLegend]

ROFLLL I don't think they are going to after that hahahah
Yeah looking good right now.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

We handle this like men. If you wanna come and talk to me like a man, becuase we are men. We handle ourselves like men, look me in the eye and talk to me like a man because we are all men in this locker room

[Nervous Ferret]

lol why didn't Tiki just plow Trent Cole while the ball was in the air? Pretty sure all bets are off after a tip ball

[DrA]

Right before that play I was thinking to myself, "You know, maybe people are giving Eli Manning too much of a hard time, maybe if they just give him a chance." Then I see the ball fifty feet up in the air after the snap and was thinking the defensive end was going to call a fair catch.

[Nervous Ferret]

Also the Packers or 49ers are going to make the Wild Card in the NFC

[McLegend]

Did the Giants know they were down by 14? I guess they just gave up.

[OssMan]

Same thing every week with the Giants

[YOUR Hero]

So are my 49ers whooping the competition?

I know they beat up on the Seahawks the other night. Aren't these Seahawks supposed to be a favourite?

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

lol why didn't Tiki just plow Trent Cole while the ball was in the air? Pretty sure all bets are off after a tip ball
Yeah you're right, once its tipped there is no pass interference or anything

Actually wait, was that ball tipped though? Or did he just get hit when he threw it?

[OssMan]

NFC east is so stupid, none of the teams are good, especially the cowboys, but they "look good" and everyone thinks they are. lol at the redskins being 5-9 though after everyone predicted 15-1.

[D Mac]

Fucking bullshit.

[D Mac]

The official Chiefs motto is now under my avatar.

[Crimson]

NFC east is so stupid, none of the teams are good, especially the cowboys, but they "look good" and everyone thinks they are. lol at the redskins being 5-9 though after everyone predicted 15-1.

At least Cowboys are 9-5, not 7-7 :D

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

NFC east is so stupid, none of the teams are good, especially the cowboys, but they "look good" and everyone thinks they are. lol at the redskins being 5-9 though after everyone predicted 15-1.
lol at LT's TD runs only being 85 yards

[AlphaBean]

T Jack is lighting up the Jets Prevent :-\

T Jack is going to be "the truth."

I want all the Vikings to die for not bringing him in earlier. WE COULDA HAD ROMENTUM.

FUCK. :(

[D Mac]

Yay according to reports we are still mathematically still in it.

[Joey Slugs]

I just want to thank the NO Saints for taking the dive for us today... you guys are alright in my book!

The road to the Super Bowl could very well go through Chicago!

4th Phase!

[AlphaBean]

Hehehehe yeah way to showcase your dominance against the vicious Buccs :lol:

[Joey Slugs]

Hehehehe yeah way to showcase your dominance against the vicious Buccs :lol:

The first half was all buisness and then the defense got comfortable in the 2nd. You also have to look at the fact that any little injury was going to take a guy out of the game (so it wouldn't get worse at any point) so we had starters sitting out a lot of plays in the second half.

But just look at the way our offense handled themselves. They weren't going to take any shit today. Rex looked great and Clark is a god right now in the city.

Shit... I'll give the Bucs a ton of credit. They got fucking thumped in the 1st half and then pretty much said "fuck it, we have nothing to lose" and they just started winging the ball downfield.

A win is a win and all roads lead to Chicago right now.

[AlphaBean]

Yeah you were pretty much cocky before the Dolphins and Pats games too.

[RP]

6. Indianapolis Colts: Run defense
The Colts can't stop anyone on the ground. That has been established. But that fact could actually work in their favor come playoff time. Opposing teams will try to eat up clock by running the ball against the Colts to keep Peyton Manning off the field. But it's almost impossible to run the ball against Indianapolis without scoring in 90 seconds or less. Advantage: Colts.


LOL

We win.

[LoDownM]

lol

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Is Tommy Harris coming back?

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Anybody know if the Saints won yesterday? I haven't seen anything in here about it. They obviously won since they're Super Bowl champs but I just haven't seen anyone talking about their victory yesterday. What's going on?

[road doggy dogg]

lol Owens spit on Deangelo Hall and got fined $35,000

I feel bad for Hall, like every team picks on him. haha

[Gonzo]

I really want to see coaching changes in the Giants organization next year. I'm not talking about Coughlin because judging from press conferences he seems to know what the problems are, but he is only 1 man. I want to see new coordinators (offense and defense), because the ones we have really blow dick.

[DrA]

This might be the first season in history where every team ends up 8-8.

[UmbrellaCorporation]

This might be the first season in history where every team ends up 8-8.


I was seriously thinking the same thing earlier.

I've got my favorites (Ravens/Saints, I am looking at you), but I have quit trying to actually PREDICT this season, mainly because it's been so ridiculously insane. Seriously curious to see how this plays out.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Is anyone watching this shit on Chad Johnson? hahaha he is fucking hilarious, they showed "a day with Chad Johnson" and he went to McDonalds and got like 15 things for breakfast, then he goes to the bank and takes out like 15,000 dollars and says he is going to FedEx it to the NFL since he is getting finned tonight :rofl:

His cleats are fucking classic too, a mural of his career on his heels hahah NFL officals are going to make him take them off though. So retarded, this shit is hilarious. It takes the attention off the fact that the Bengals have 8 players get arrested this year.

[Gonzo]

Chad Johnson is pretty ridiculous but its pretty funny, harmless, and he can do it because he is actually a good player who will deliver.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

"Bush called me earlier, he said he'll be watching tonight. That's George W. Bush - not Reggie" - Chad Johnson

[Joey Slugs]

Is Tommy Harris coming back?

No. :'(

[McLegend]

How is Merton Hanks in charge of the dress code for the NFL?

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

No. :'(
That's a tough loss for the Bears then. Losing both DT's is pretty tough, especially in a cover 2 scheme. Urlacher has so much responsibilty in pass coverage and now he is going to be getting a lot more chip offs by lineman/traffic in run defense since both anchors on the Dline are missing.

[AlphaBean]

That's a tough loss for the Bears then. Losing both DT's is pretty tough, especially in a cover 2 scheme. Urlacher has so much responsibilty in pass coverage and now he is going to be getting a lot more chip offs by lineman/traffic in run defense since both anchors on the Dline are missing.

Matt Birk said that by running straight at Urlacher, they took him out of the game, because he's so soft and overhyped.

So basically, Shaun Alexander or Deuce McAlister will be able to beat the Bears...

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Well I dunno if I'd put "soft and overhyped" more like he is a MLB who depends more on speed then fighting off blocks (he returned kicks in college). That is the type of linebacker you need for the cover 2. Obviously lineman are going to hate on players like that, since they are more into out running you then trying to fight with you at the line.

Urlacher isn't the only pro bowl linebacker on defense though, Lance Briggs nigga

[AlphaBean]

Remember 2001? Washington and Traylor? Man that was a scary line.

Fuck, I see the 2001 Bears in the Vikings... immense in the middle, need a pass rush.

[RP]

Who dey? lol

Freeney was a fucking monster last night. I dont know the record for most forced fumbles, but Freeney has to be on his way to breaking it. It seems like every time that guy hits someone, its a forced fumble. He's insanley nuts and just ripped to shreds the Bengals Offensive line and Chad Palmer.

The Bandwagon is closed. No more can get on. Everyone that got off last week, seeya. This Colts team cant be broken no matter what. They proved it last night. They beat one of the hottest and most talented teams in the league when they very easily could have had there spirits broken and lost that game. They manned up and stayed focused despite two weeks of being manhandled by division foes and losing to a 60 yard field goal. They were beat up. We were starting Matt Giaradono, Rob Morris and Dexter Reid. The Bengals were hungry and on a roll. They were ready to finally topple Indy, like they've been talking about for 3 years. Indy had every reason to lose this game and somehow Tony Dungy kept this team from doubting themselves and didnt let them listen to all the critics who were ripping them ( deservedly so ).

Look. I dont know how, but i think its the year. Something is different. The last couple of years were the same. Colts were the dominant team. They were the favorites. This year, they arent even the 3rd or 4th best team in the league. There are no high expectations. Everyone thinks that Indy can be bounced from the first round by any team in the AFC playoffs. So i dont know why i think its the year. I cant tell you how we can possibly stop L.T. and beat the Chargers. But i just got a feeling. I feel like this is the most unlikely year and thats why it just might happen. I probably sound like a broken record, but I have no choice but to believe. Theirs just too much future history on this team for them to not have a Superbowl to be remembered for. I refuse to believe that the NFL Gods will keep the Indianapolis Colts without a Superbowl for the next 5-10 years. I dont believe it. This is the year. It has to be. My heart cant take another playoff loss right now. This has to be it.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

lol

[road doggy dogg]

J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS

http://graphics10.nytimes.com/images/2006/12/19/sports/19jets.1.600.jpg

[road doggy dogg]

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/19/sports/football/19jets.html?_r=1&ref=sports&oref=slogin

Thurr's the story.
Chad Pennington's son is named Cole. I think him and Liver anus should swap so he can have a kid named Cole Coles.

[AlphaBean]

Who dey? lol

Freeney was a fucking monster last night. I dont know the record for most forced fumbles, but Freeney has to be on his way to breaking it. It seems like every time that guy hits someone, its a forced fumble. He's insanley nuts and just ripped to shreds the Bengals Offensive line and Chad Palmer.

The Bandwagon is closed. No more can get on. Everyone that got off last week, seeya. This Colts team cant be broken no matter what. They proved it last night. They beat one of the hottest and most talented teams in the league when they very easily could have had there spirits broken and lost that game. They manned up and stayed focused despite two weeks of being manhandled by division foes and losing to a 60 yard field goal. They were beat up. We were starting Matt Giaradono, Rob Morris and Dexter Reid. The Bengals were hungry and on a roll. They were ready to finally topple Indy, like they've been talking about for 3 years. Indy had every reason to lose this game and somehow Tony Dungy kept this team from doubting themselves and didnt let them listen to all the critics who were ripping them ( deservedly so ).

Look. I dont know how, but i think its the year. Something is different. The last couple of years were the same. Colts were the dominant team. They were the favorites. This year, they arent even the 3rd or 4th best team in the league. There are no high expectations. Everyone thinks that Indy can be bounced from the first round by any team in the AFC playoffs. So i dont know why i think its the year. I cant tell you how we can possibly stop L.T. and beat the Chargers. But i just got a feeling. I feel like this is the most unlikely year and thats why it just might happen. I probably sound like a broken record, but I have no choice but to believe. Theirs just too much future history on this team for them to not have a Superbowl to be remembered for. I refuse to believe that the NFL Gods will keep the Indianapolis Colts without a Superbowl for the next 5-10 years. I dont believe it. This is the year. It has to be. My heart cant take another playoff loss right now. This has to be it.

You won a game, all of a sudden you're 16-0 again.

I really really really hope that the Colts lose in the playoffs, if only to imagine you hunched over in front of the TV after the Pats do it again.

[Joey Slugs]

Funny... Dwight Freeney only has 1 FF this season.

[Joey Slugs]

My heart cant take another playoff loss right now. This has to be it.

I'm sorry dude... it's not going to happen. The Bolts or the Ravens will be the AFC half of the Super Bowl this year.

Any team with a running game (thanks to Jacksonville) can expose the shit out of the Indy D and control the game. Manning is at his best when he can control the ball with a running attack, if he has to play from behind... he has a tough time. It's going to happen again this year. I would love to see the Colts and manning finally win one, but... I think he might end up as the next Marino to Brady's Montana.

[AlphaBean]

Sad to see the speed-based C2 teams incapable of stopping the run and never succeeding in the playoffs.

Chargers-Saints? How sweet would that be?

[Joey Slugs]

I want to see Bears-Saints NFC Championship.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I will laugh my ass off if the Patriots beat the Colts again in the playoffs. Broncos lurking as a Wild Card team is pissing me off though. Patriots always play like shit againest them.

I don't know what to think about the Patriots chances though, some games they look like a Superbowl team then other games they play like absolute shit.

Another thing, whats the deal with Cato June? Some plays he looks like an All Pro then you look again he is getting run over and trampled on by Rudi Johnson. He so inconsistant from play to play I really don't get it. Maybe he just overpersues or something and that gets him out of tackling position, because he missed a bunch last night.

[UmbrellaCorporation]

I want to see Bears-Saints NFC Championship.


Yeah, ditto. :y:

[AlphaBean]

I will laugh my ass off if the Patriots beat the Colts again in the playoffs. Broncos lurking as a Wild Card team is pissing me off though. Patriots always play like shit againest them.

I don't know what to think about the Patriots chances though, some games they look like a Superbowl team then other games they play like absolute shit.

Another thing, whats the deal with Cato June? Some plays he looks like an All Pro then you look again he is getting run over and trampled on by Rudi Johnson. He so inconsistant from play to play I really don't get it. Maybe he just overpersues or something and that gets him out of tackling position, because he missed a bunch last night.

Could be confidence. 375 yards rushing against you will do that to a player. :lol:

So LOMO has torn cartilage in his rib cage? :'( Done for the year? That breaks muh heart.

I have to say, on one hand I think that Rivers doesn't seem to have it "in him" to win the Superbowl. On the other hand, I think that Shottenheimer, historically one of the game's best, except when it comes to big games and blowing big leads... has grown. At 97 years old, Schottenheimer has learned that you can't sit on the ball at the end of the game, and now the talking heads of the Sports Media are saying that Marty needs to stop running up the score, and giving LT his record-breaking TD at the end of a blowout win??? What do they want from him?

It's better to go balls-out for 4 quarters and run over the opposing team even after the game is put away, than to risk losing the lead.

All the best teams with their inexperienced starters, if Peyton wasn't such a huge choke artist, I would love to see him and Brees in the superbowl, dueling it out. It would be like Brady/Delhomme, except that Brees is good while Delhomme was lucky, and Brees is actually better than ALL OF THE REST.

WHO DAT??

[OssMan]

wow fred robbins didnt make the probowl? he had a better year than any of the NFC defensive lineman including tommie harris who has been out for the season for like 5 weeks (?)

[Triple A]

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/19/sports/football/19jets.html?_r=1&ref=sports&oref=slogin

Thurr's the story.
Chad Pennington's son is named Cole. I think him and Liver anus should swap so he can have a kid named Cole Coles.

Dancing with their 2 year old kids on Sesame Street. Great guys. :love: :love: :love:

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Whyd they bring the punter?

[AlphaBean]

wow fred robbins didnt make the probowl? he had a better year than any of the NFC defensive lineman including tommie harris who has been out for the season for like 5 weeks (?)

Fred Robbins :love:

But fuck that nigga. Kevin and Pat Williams are making history.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Tom Brady didn't make the Probowl

[AlphaBean]

Neither did Brad Johnson. :(

[Joey Slugs]

Bears got 7 guys in. :y:

[AlphaBean]

Tommie won't be going. Hopefully Pat gets in instead of Robbins in that event.

[RP]

Yah, like i said. I cant tell you how the Colts will beat the Chargers.

Here's the thing about the run defense. They dont struggle as much against power runners. Hence why the Bengals ran all night and got nowhere with it. They struggle with the quick slashing cut back types. Which is why i think they can beat Baltimore. Its not like they havent seen that defense before. And Steve Mcnair is being way too overhyped right now. Jamal Lewis wont hurt us that much. He might get a hundy, but thats it.

I dont know how, but i think its the year. And i dont think they're 16-0 again whoever said that. I'm just repping my team. Eat my shit.

Rivers getting in over Brady was rediculous. Rivers hasnt been good enough to justify that.

[Gonzo]

Tommie won't be going. Hopefully Pat gets in instead of Robbins in that event.

I think Robbins should definitely go in that situation, I think Robbins is having a better season, bearing in mind I haven't seen one Vikings game this year.

Hell, now that I have looked at the stats Robbins should be going ahead of any of those guys that actually got it. Better statistics (although stats can lie), but let me say he has been involved in many plays where he didn't chalk up any stats.

[AlphaBean]

I think Robbins should definitely go in that situation, I think Robbins is having a better season, bearing in mind I haven't seen one Vikings game this year.

Hell, now that I have looked at the stats Robbins should be going ahead of any of those guys that actually got it. Better statistics (although stats can lie), but let me say he has been involved in many plays where he didn't chalk up any stats.

Wow, a Giants fan saying a Giant should be in the Pro Bowl, and a Vikings fan arguing that a Viking should go.

The fact is, Pat is a Nose Tackle. They don't get sacks or interceptions or anything, they just destroy the middle of the opposing team's OL. That's what Pat does. We're giving up under 60 yards per game rushing. That's Pat Williams. He's been one of the best tackles in the league for years and never gets props, because of "stats."

What "stats" do Offensive Linemen get? It's the same thing.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Vince Wilfork

I don't care if he plays in the AFC

[Gonzo]

The fact is, Pat is a Nose Tackle. They don't get sacks or interceptions or anything, they just destroy the middle of the opposing team's OL. That's what Pat does. We're giving up under 60 yards per game rushing. That's Pat Williams. He's been one of the best tackles in the league for years and never gets props, because of "stats."
You basically just said what I already did...

Better statistics (although stats can lie), but let me say he has been involved in many plays where he didn't chalk up any stats.

I'm not taking away from anyone here, all I was saying was that Robbins does deserve to go because he has played well whether it shows up on the stat sheet or not. Like I said I haven't seen one Vikings game, but I'm well aware of the type of player Pat Williams is.

[AlphaBean]

Vince Wilfork

I don't care if he plays in the AFC

Nah, Cato June would make it in the NFC before Wilfork.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I didn't realize JP Losman was having such a good year until I checked out some stats. He is right up there in all the major QB statistical categories with all the other good AFC QB's

[AlphaBean]

He's #1 in the NFL in the pedophile mustache category.

[Team Sheep]

Who cares. It's the Probowl...

[RP]

JP Losman has been rather average to me. I guess average would be spectacular to a Bills fan right now.

[Cooler Tom Schuler]

I can't believe Green Bay is still in playoff contention. Unlikely, but possible.

How can the Packers get into the playoffs? There are various ways, but the most likely scenario is for all of the following to happen between now and Dec. 31:

--The Packers beat the Bears to finish 8-8;
--The Giants lose twice, to the Saints and Redskins, to finish 7-9;
--The Falcons (7-7) lose once, either to the Panthers or Eagles, to finish 8-8, but behind Green Bay in conference record (7-5 to 6-6);
--The Rams (6-8) lose once, either to the Redskins or Vikings, to finish 7-9; and
--The Seahawks (8-6) either win once OR the 49ers (6-8) lose once, so that Seattle wins the NFC West and is not in the Wild Card picture.

http://packers.com/news/stories/2006/12/22/1/

Hopefully the Bears won't bring everything to the table on week 17...

[KingofOldSchool]

RON DAAAAAAYYYYYNNNEEEE, FTW

[Innovator]

It's embarrassing to be a Giants fan right now, fucking piss poor

[Nervous Ferret]

G MENNNNNNNNNN

For hecks sake they are still gunna be in the wildcard after today though :mad:

[KingofOldSchool]

KRIS BROWN, FTW

[Nervous Ferret]

Houston beat Indy :cool:

[KingofOldSchool]

Brady just got killed.

[Innovator]

I'm waiting for the Giants to start fighting each other.

Also I'm calling for the head of Tom Coughlin.

[Triple A]

GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG MEN

What a horrible team.

[Triple A]

Pats are beating the Jaguars right now 24-21 with 3 mins left.

If they win, the Jets control their playoff destiny since Denver/Cincy play each other. COME ON WHOOOO

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Have to admit I am rooting for the 49ers right now

[RP]

Niceeee we get to go on the road in the playoffs, if we even make it that far. If Ron Dayne can run on us, anyone can run on us.

[RP]

I'm pretty sure i could run for 100 yards and 2 td's on the Colts defense.

[RP]

I'm pretty sure Demeco Ryans is a beast too. Man, there defense will be amazing in 2 years.

[Nervous Ferret]

god just realized none of the 7-8 teams play each other nexst week, so a 7-9 team still might go to the playoffs :(

[Triple A]

Yessssss Pats beat the Jags. :love:

If the Jets beat the Dolphins tomorrow and the Raiders next week, they are in. This is amazing.

[Loose Cannon]

god the Jets better not do it to me this year.

[KingofOldSchool]

Have to admit I am rooting for the 49ers right now

GOOOORRRRRRE. :love:

I am sooo rooting for the Redskins right now.

If they win and the 49ers win, the 9ers playoff chances are looking pretty good.

I don't care that they'll lose in the Wild Card round, it's amazing that they could make it into the playoffs this year. :heart:

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Patriots AFC East Champs again

Dolphins are going to the Superbowl

[Skippord]

*Jumps on Tennesee Bandwagon*

YEAHHHHHHHHHHHH

[DrA]

This has been the worst NFC year I have ever seen, just dreadful.

However, this has been one of the best years I've seen for the AFC, mainly because the Tennesee Titans might be my favorite team besides the Cowboys.

All in all, I hope there is some more stability next year in the NFL. I don't like this "four teams that are 8-8 are going to the playoffs" nonsense.

Although it does make for some entertaining football next week New Year's Eve. :cool:

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Be interesting to see what some of these teams do in the offseason. Might be quite a few big names getting moved around.

[FearedSanctity]

Somehow, I am still alive

[Anybody Thrilla]

I normally don't post here, but I'd just like to take this opportunity to tell Brad St. Louis to go FUCK HIMSELF.

Thank you.

[Triple A]

If the Bengals miss the playoffs that is pretty fucked up. I feel like they are capable of beating any team in the league, really. Shame.

[OssMan]

bengals ending was stupid, maybe i wouldnt hate the broncos so much if the fans didnt do their chant after every incomplete pass? do they chant that when their team is getting blown out too?

only thing i have to say about the giants this week is the same thing i said last week. "same thing every week."

LOL at sean taylor today. he got beat like 5 times and on this 60 yard run after catch by steven jackson he just backed up for like 10 yards and was totally afraid to tackle him, then he got run over and jackson scored.

[Gonzo]

Man the defense came out playing well but you can't expect that to carry on all game long when the offense does nothing...

Coaching changes must be made.

[Innovator]

hence the two "Fire Coughlin" chants before the fans left in the 3rd quarter

[Skippord]

Somehow, I am still alive

[LoDownM]

I hope every team lose's who is ranked 6-10 next week except KC. *goes to pray*

[CNM]

Damn, crazy game. It's about damn time we won a game in the snow, we always seem to blow those ones.

[CNM]

bengals ending was stupid, maybe i wouldnt hate the broncos so much if the fans didnt do their chant after every incomplete pass? do they chant that when their team is getting blown out too?


Good thing the Broncos don't get blown out at home.

[LoDownM]

Damn, crazy game. It's about damn time we won a game in the snow, we always seem to blow those ones.


When the Bengals got that last td, I was like, "cool the Broncos might lose." Then I remembered the Bengals needed to lose and was like "shit no, god I hope they fuck up the pa"

Me: 1 Bengals: 0 :cool:

[CNM]

Haha, it was funnier because Nantz was talking about the possibility of them blowing it right before it happened

[Kris P Lettus]

Did the Bengals win??

I dunno, I haven't heard yet but I'm pretty sure they won..

Who Dey??

I mean, "Dat"..

[Kris P Lettus]

The road to the Super Bowl goes through the Chocolate Thunderdome..

Oh and Joey Slugs, see you in the NCF Championship..

Saints 34
Bears 17

Who Dat??

[LoDownM]

No they didnt Krispy. 24-23 Denver.