MMA Thread

[Kris P Lettus]

Watch his hands..

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[Reavant]

Well the Lauzon vs. Florian fight would have been stopped if Mazzagati was ref when Florian was elbowing the back of the head.

i think that was stupid anyway.... he was elbowing the top of his head and lauzon started to turn away. Plus the rule is only there because they dont want you to hit the brain stem which is no where near where florian was elbowing him.

[Jura]

Irvin was ready to go and surprised him. If Alexander hadn't jabbed with his left first he would have been guarded. Alexander wasn't blocking anything when he got knocked down and could have suffered more damage and the right decision was called but I'd like to see a rematch.

[Rob]

The Alves/Parysian fight was questionable but Houston Alexander was knocked the fuck out.. Not from the blow thatn dropped him but from the first follow punch on the ground.. His hands dropped and everything..


I agree. He was out. Just 3 more seconds would have ended any debate.

[Kris P Lettus]

It's a fine line between not wanting people to bitch about an early stoppage and a fighter getting brain damage from taking undefended blows to the head..

Specially when their head is slamming the floor with each strike and has no where to go..

[Rob]

It's not that fine of a line.

[Reavant]

well the first time that line is crossed is when the sport gets into some major trouble.

[Vastardikai]

^

And McCain would be back on his high horse about "Human Cockfighting."

[Reavant]

yea he cannot be elected president

[Rob]

well the first time that line is crossed is when the sport gets into some major trouble.

Shit to say but it's gonna happen at some point.

[Reavant]

as long as its not in the ufc then it will be ok

[Rob]

Well it definately can't happen on any EliteXC show now since they have network TV.

[Reavant]

yea but theyre still not considered as big as the ufc. if it happened even in elite xc it could be spun to say that they are a lesser organization with inferior safety regulations blah blah... If it happens in the ufc, then there is no excuse

[Rob]

They won't be called a lesser organization now they have network TV. Any major issue that they had would hit UFC too now. It would be bigger on a UFC show mind you so I agree there but they share the same safety regulations so that wouldn't be any excuse.

[The CyNick]

Matt Serra is gonna humble him again me thinks.

You sir are the DEVIL!

[RP]

ROFL Matt Serra is gunna get his head kicked off.

[Savio]

Next fight for Lesnar is "Make it or Break it"

[Reavant]

Next fight for Lesnar is "Make it or Break it"

the only reason it is make it or break it is because coleman couldnt beat 75% of the heavyweights currently in the UFC right now and he has no business in the cage

[Rob]

ROFL Matt Serra is gunna get his head kicked off.

Everyone said that the first time. GSP has humbled Koscheck and Hughes since but their Jujitsu or stand up isn't close to Serra's. Again, I think people are seriously underestimating Serra going into this. Maybe even more so than last time. If I had to put money on one, I'd put it on GSP but very grudgingly. Something just tells me Serra has his number.

[McLegend]

If GSP was worried about the pressure in there last fight the pressure is now like 10 times worse.

[Crimson]

GSP will murder his ass.

And LMAO @ Houston Alexander

[Savio]

the only reason it is make it or break it is because coleman couldnt beat 75% of the heavyweights currently in the UFC right now and he has no business in the cage
maybe I should have just said break it.

[Reavant]

http://www.sherdog.com/news/news.asp?n_id=12220

Top ranked heavyweight Fedor Emelianenko (Pictures) will fight Tim Sylvia (Pictures) on July 19. The Russian mixed martial arts champion confirmed the bout to Sherdog.com on Tuesday.

"[Sylvia] is a good fighter, a strong fighter, the former UFC heavyweight champion, which is important," Emelianenko said via telephone from Stary Oskol, Russia. "I am looking forward to fighting him and training hard for this fight."

While Emelianenko was short on details, Sherdog.com has learned through sources close to the negotiations that Fedor-Sylvia would headline a card tentatively scheduled for the American Airlines Center in Dallas, the home base of HDNet Fights.

HDNet Fights CEO Andrew Simon declined to comment on the report, however sources indicate the bout will air on the Mark Cuban-owned network and is rumored to be promoted by Affliction, a clothing brand closely tied to MMA.

Affliction had been connected with Oscar De La Hoya's Golden Boy Promotions, however a June 28 Las Vegas date has since been discarded.

Emelianenko, a 31-year-old sambo practitioner, has faced criticism from media and fans alike after a string of fights against less than stellar competition. Sylvia would represent the Russian's first ranked opponent since his unanimous decision over Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipovic nearly three years ago.

Widely regarded as the top heavyweight fighter in the world, Emelianenko (27-1-0, 1 NC) was recently freed from a letter of intent binding him to the now-defunct M-1 Global promotion.

Sylvia, 32, is coming off a submission loss to Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (Pictures) in February at UFC 81. After a spirited performance that saw him batter his foe at will with strikes, Sylvia (24-4-0) eventually fell victim to a classic Nogueira come-from-behind performance and succumbed to a guillotine choke early in the third round.

[Kris P Lettus]

I was just about to post this:

Fedor Emelianenko Vs. Tim Sylvia Being Discussed For June
By Jason Perkins


A proposed contest between Fedor Emelianenko and Tim Sylvia is currently in discussions according to a source close to the negotiations. Though our source informed us that this fight is a "solid possibility" it should be noted that it is far from a done deal and would require further negotiations if a basic agreement is reached. There are also other names in the works for both fighters should this fight fail to materialize.

The fight, however, if officially agreed to, will be held in Chicago this June under the newly formed Adrenaline MMA banner. The card is also set to feature Jeff Monson taking on Mike Russow in a heavyweight showdown.

Former UFC champion Tim Sylvia was recently released from his UFC contract and has since signed with Adrenaline MMA; which coincidently employs his agent, Monte Cox as CEO of the company. The promotion has also signed Ben Rothwell and Eddie Alverez as the company looks to begin stockpiling talent as they move towards their inaugural event to be held on June 14th.

[McLegend]

I think it's a bad move for everyone involved excpet for Tim Sylvia.

[Kris P Lettus]

Fedor is going to murder him..

[McLegend]

Just like how Cro cop and every other Pride fighter was gonna murder everyone in the UFC?

Tim Sylvia will probably get more money then he is worth. Even if he is does get murdered it still be a good move for him.

[Kris P Lettus]

Nothing like Cro Cop.. Sylvia is just shit..

[McLegend]

Sylvia is actually a good fighter. Mind you I don't really watch him, but hes a tough matchup for everyone. I don't think this will be an impressive victory Fedor. I could see this being a terribly boring fight, and hurting Fedor's exposure to the American auidence.

[Kris P Lettus]

No..

Fedor can easily take down much bigger guys..

Hong Man Choi, Nog, Gary Goodridge, Ogawa, etc etc..

[McLegend]

Hong Man Choi is ten times worse then Sylvia

[Kris P Lettus]

Well, yeah but Fedor is still the best heavyweight in the world..

The only person who could give him trouble ATM is Couture..

:-\

[Rob]

No..

Fedor can easily take down much bigger guys..

Hong Man Choi, Nog, Gary Goodridge, Ogawa, etc etc..

Sylvia has better takedown defense than you give him credit for. Jeff Monson is a better wrestler than Fedor and he struggled like anything to do anything to him. This is probably the most dangerous fight out there for Fedor right now and I wouldn't be shocked at all if he lost.

[McLegend]

Fedor last fight against a top level fighter was Crocop, and it was nearly 3 years ago.

I can not say he is the best heavyweight in the world atm. In fact I honestly don't know who is.

And again with the expection of Hong man Choi (who sucks) none of those guys are as big as Tim Sylvia.

[Kris P Lettus]

All of them are over 6'3"..

I know Sylvia has a nice take down defense but Couture took him down at will..

[Kris P Lettus]

Also, Matt Lindland isn't a garbage fighter even though he is past his prime..

Mark Hunt is an awesome striker too..

[McLegend]

Yeah but see Matt Lindland naturally fights at middleweight, and didn't stand much of a chance against heavyweight figther the caliber of Fedor.

[McLegend]

All of them are over 6'3"..

I know Sylvia has a nice take down defense but Couture took him down at will..

Sylvia is 6'7 though, which is like half a foot taller then Fedor.

[Kris P Lettus]

Hong Man Choi is 7'2"..

[Innovator]

Sylvia sucks

[McLegend]

I am well aware, which is why I said excpet for Hong Man Choi.

[Innovator]

The fight will be Sylvtastic...

Sylvia might land a punch....Fedor will take him down....submit him

[McLegend]

And he really sucks. I cannot say that enough.

Syliva is much better then him. So his height difference wasn't a factor, because he is terrible.

[Rob]

I'm tipping Sylvia for the upset.

[Kris P Lettus]

Rob "Underdog" Harvey

First Serra over GSP and now this..


:nono:

[Rob]

I think Sylvia is a bad match up for Fedor and he avoided fighting him in the past. Point blank told UFC he didn't want to fight him and wouldn't fight him when Dana White was willing to do Pride exchanges. And except for Serra last time, I did good on tipping the big fights last year.

[Kris P Lettus]

Speaking of which, I thought (that faggot) Fallen Angel was gonna start a UFC Tipster League thing..

[Rob]

I'll start one tomorrow then. Are there like 10 people who wanna do it though? Otherwise I can't be fucked.

[Kris P Lettus]

me, legend, yourself, reav (even though he dropped out of our NFL one after like week 3), Inno, Mercury Bullet, RP, HBK2K, Stickman, Crimson, etc etc

We've got a few MMA fans here..

Also, you could post a link in the wrestling forum cause I'm sure their are fans in there who don't post outside of that forum..

:-\

[Rob]

Yeah if I haven't posted it by tomorrow, just remind me. I'm lazy like that. I need sleep now though or I'd do it now.

[Kris P Lettus]

All good..

[Reavant]

k fedor didnt take hong man choi down... he pulled him on top of himself. He took nog down so easily because nog wanted to be taken down so he could work his jits. A lot of the other guys that he took down were much lesser opponents. Sylvia is a tough person to fight with good skills and great takedown defense. He could be some serious trouble for Fedor. Personnally im putting my money on fedor but i could see fedor not being able to take him down and just taking shots to the face most of the fight.

[Reavant]

me, legend, yourself, reav (even though he dropped out of our NFL one after like week 3), Inno, Mercury Bullet, RP, HBK2K, Stickman, Crimson, etc etc

We've got a few MMA fans here..

Also, you could post a link in the wrestling forum cause I'm sure their are fans in there who don't post outside of that forum..

:-\

i got back in it by week 15 ima busy guy

[Kris P Lettus]

I issed one week and was too far behind to care around week 8..

Plus the Saints sucked..

[Reavant]

i missed like 4 weeks in a row and decided the same thing

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Yeah, I actually suggested the MMA tipsters a while back but couldn't be arsed to run it myself. However, I'd be all about participating.

[Rob]

I'll sort it over the weekend.

[Kris P Lettus]

Source: Frank Trigg on TAGG RADIO
Taggradio.com
listen to yesterdays show

Trigg says that when the ufc cut affliction from their shows, they cut over 50% of the fighters income who were sponsored

Thats the main reason Timmy left.

says hes already heard they are negotiating with Sherk and St. George Pierre. its pretty much a done deal

he said that when their contracts r up, they will leave and sherk has 2 fights left. thats why he didnt resign be4 the peen fight.

Dave Meltzer also said the same things in the new wrestling observer
wrestlingobserver.com

[Rob]

They had to cut Affliction once they announced they wanted to start their own MMA group. Not the UFC's problem.

[Kris P Lettus]

Isn't Rampage sponsored by Affliction too??

[Reavant]

yup... theres a ton of guys sponsored by them. Also they give a lot of fighters free shit. Even the ones that dont have a shirt with their name on it.

[Reavant]

http://dreamfighters.com/site/?action=detail&id=1207842187

Just yesterday sherdog released that Fedor will be facing Tim Sylvia over the summer. DreamFighters.com has learned through some sources, and also on the Savage Dog Show, that they have added some fights to the fight card. Here are the rumored bouts:

Tim Sylvia Vs. Fedor

Andrei Arlovski Vs. Ben Rothwell

Babalu Vs. Mike Whitehead

Pedro Rizzo Vs. Josh Barnett

Alexander Emelienenko vs. TBA

These are however rumors, and from limited sources, but we will bring you confirmation once it happens.

Interesting but I dont think its true. Now I know Rob doesnt believe me but I actually DO help Andrei train his wrestling. Hes been on vacation since his last fight and hasne been in contact with my coaches so I find it unlikly that hes got a fight coming up, but we'll see.

[Rob]

Actually I do believe you train with him.

[Reavant]

I stand corrected

[Reavant]

Im an idiot... overtime, the place i train at, is having the senior level wrestlers have their workouts there for getting ready for the olympic trials and stuff and JD Bergman and Tommy Rowlands are gonna be there and my coaches are like, hey you want to come in and work with them, they need a bigger guy to work with. and im like sure. Why i said that i dont know but yesterday i wrestled bergman and i held my own but still it wasnt pretty and today i get to wrestle rowlands... what the hell was i thinking? meh

[Reavant]

oh and i will see andrei tomm so hopefully i can get some news as to whether he is going to be on that card against rothwell.

[RP]

Best Buy has all there UFC DVD's 30% off. There like 10 bucks.

[Kris P Lettus]

I want the box set which is like UFC 50-60 for like $110..

I've been putting off buying it for 2 years..

:(

[Rob]

I don't like the UFC PPV DVD's. No intros and music and some missing hype videos. Pointless.

[Kris P Lettus]

By Dave Meltzer, Yahoo! Sports
Apr 14, 2:50 pm EDT

UFC welterweight champion Matt Serra knows he isn’t going to be the fan favorite when he steps into the octagon at Bell Centre in Montreal in front of the expected largest crowd in North American mixed martial arts history on Saturday night.

“I’m having my trainers and sparring partners boo me on a regular basis, so I’m getting used to it,” said Serra, who defends the title against hometown hero Georges St. Pierre. “It’s the same cage, it doesn’t matter the city.”

While others are talking about the expected noise level for the main event, Serra is thinking about how quiet the crowd will be if things go as he plans: a knockout or submission win.

But he recognizes they won’t be silent at the start.


“It’s not a problem,” Serra said. “I’m just going to get to feel like Tim Sylvia feels in every city.”

LOL

Serra is the man..

[Rob]

He could be the worst fighter in the world and his personality would sell this fight for me.

[Kris P Lettus]

I used to hate him and found him annoying, but after his TUF appearance, I grew to love him..

That quote about Sylvia is ROFLMFAO..

[RP]

Well, he'll have a tough time running his mouth when he gets his teeth kicked down his throat Saturday. Thats all i know for sure.

[Rob]

UFC 83 SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1!!11!!!!!11














































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[RP]

Its not going out of the 1st round. St. Pierre will KO him.

[Rob]

GSP's most convincing wins all came against grapplers - BJ Penn, Hughes, Parasyan, Sherk, Koscheck. We have already seen Serra's KO him once and although his wrestling is better, his BJJ certainly won't be close. Obviously GSP is the favourite but there is no way I'm counting out Serra.

[Reavant]

personally im happy if either guy wins

[Reavant]

i def want lutter over franklin tho

[Rob]

Franklin came off like such a pussy on the Countdown show.

In other notes from that show, Georges St Pierre's sister is smoking hot. And I'd fuck Travis Lutter's wife too in a heartbeat.

[Reavant]

word

[McLegend]

It seems like every girlfriend/wife of every MMA fighter is hot.

[Kris P Lettus]

Cept Tito's..

[McLegend]

Got em

[Reavant]

andrei said hes still talking to ufc

[Stickman]

It seems like every girlfriend/wife of every MMA fighter is hot.

No shit. Famous and tough what else does a girl need.

[McLegend]

No shit. Famous and tough what else does a girl need.

Yeah but Travis Lutter isn't really that famous, which would be my point btw.

[Kris P Lettus]

http://www.mmashare.com/images/avatars/5519965214807b50aa195a.jpg

LOL

[Kris P Lettus]

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[Vastardikai]

My (pitiful) attempt to make an MMA Caption joke...

http://mmajunkie.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/070410serra.jpg

Did Serra and White really NEED to re-enact what Serra did to get his title shot in the middle of the Octagon?

[RP]

LOL Serra called him Frenchie.


Man Serra is gunna be picking his teeth off the ground tonight. Seriously, this is over in the 1st round. Matt Serra will be shitting his own teeth.

[Kris P Lettus]

Here's an article by Frank Twinkle Toes Trigg about "flash" knock outs like that last Houston Alexander fight..

Frank Trigg on “flash knockouts”

Frank Trigg, for MMAjunkie.com Apr 17, 12:09 pm EDT

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In 10 years of fighting, I have undoubtedly concluded that the most exciting action in MMA is the knockout â whether you’re a fighter or a fan.

There is nothing more intense than watching two fighters going at it, then âBam!â In a flash, you’ve got a knockout.

However, there’s a certain type of knockout I think we should discuss, especially in light of UFC Fight Night 13.

During the April 2 event, we saw both Houston Alexander and Karo Parisyan floored by big shots. The fights were stopped, but both fighters argued the stoppages and said they would have been fine to continue â despite the flash knockouts.

As I see it, a flash knockout is a clear-cut knockout, but in the world of MMA, it is not considered a clear knock out. Many fighters are allowed to continue to fight if they become conscious after a brief moment of unconsciousness.

In most cases, when a fighter has been flashed, he believes he can still continue to fight. My personal belief is that the referee should be totally responsible for the decision of whether a fight should continue. I also believe that once a fighter is out, he should be out. A fight should never be continued after a fighter has been knocked out, no matter how short the duration of the knockout.

That’s why I think the rules of MMA need to be amended to account for flash knockouts. It’s for the safety and health of every fighter in the MMA world.

I will agree that knockouts are a very big part of MMA, but so is the safety of the fighter once he has sustained serious head trauma. And make no mistake about it: a flash knockout is serious, regardless of the duration of time the fighter is unconscious.

Fighters train every day for hours with the absolute knowledge that at any time during a fight, they can suffer a knock out. But I believe that the governing bodies of every organization should call a knockout a knockout. They need to be able to spot when a flash knockout actually occurs and prohibit fights from continuing â even if fans disapprove of the stoppages. Such measures will protect the fighter so that he may fight again another day.

Most fans’ complaints derive from the fighter complaining that he could continue to fight and was only out for a few seconds. As tough as it is for them, fighters should also stop complaining—because ultimately, this procedure will protect the sport from becoming purely barbaric.

There is a school of thought in MMA that believes flash knockouts are boring and disappointing â something of a letdown and not ârealâ knockouts. Well, in fighting, a knockout is a knockout. The safety of fighters in MMA should always be paramount to the entertainment value of the fight.

I myself have been flashed knocked, and it came during my first career loss. I was facing Hayato Sakurai in a December 2000 Shoot event. After rethinking my experience, I believe the fight should have been called right then during the KO, but I was given a standing eight count and was knocked out by a knee later in the fight.

I woke up an hour and a half later in my hotel bed fully functional but totally unaware of the fact that I had lost almost two hours of my life. Even in a sport as brutal as MMA, I cannot be more adamant about the seriousness of head trauma after a flash knockout.

I believe that the officiating of MMA matches has come a long since the inception of the sport, and referees are far more trained and knowledgeable about injury and its effects today than at anytime in history. I believe they’re in the ring, and that we should let them do their jobs. However, they must realize a knockout of any kind is a knockout. That’s it. The fighter goes home to train and live and fight another day.

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[McLegend]

LOL Serra called him Frenchie.


Man Serra is gunna be picking his teeth off the ground tonight. Seriously, this is over in the 1st round. Matt Serra will be shitting his own teeth.

He's gonna be HBK walking into Montreal.

[Kris P Lettus]

I like both of them and just want a good fight..

[Blue Demon]

I like both of them and just want a good fight..

:yes:

[Blue Demon]

And I'm gonna be watching this at Boston Pizza with all you can eat pizza :cool:

[Rob]

I like both of them and just want a good fight..

I think about 95% of the fans like both of them really.

[Kris P Lettus]

I'm like that with alot of fights though.. There's only a few guys I pull against..

[Blue Demon]

GSP owned!

[Kris P Lettus]

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[RP]

I counted atleast 3 fighters that wont ever step into a UFC fight again last night. Kalib Starnes pretty much lost his man card for good. That was the most embarressing thing i've ever seen in the UFC. I dont think i can recall any judges score card reading out as a30-24 victory. It was like Starnes went in and literally threw the fight for some reason. I was stunned. They scored it 10-8 10-8 10-8 and he didnt even have points taken from him. ROFL My god. Dana White may have had Starnes assasinated after that fight. That or Starnes should be officially on suicide watch. I'm fat and overweight and if you told me i could get in and fight Nate Quarry, i'd actually think i had a legit chance. The guy fights like he has a invisible back brace on and Starnes is literally running away from him. Quarry walks like he's Robocop and throws punches similar to the Khali Chop, and Starnes is running from him. What in the fuck was that shit. Something is up with that. I was floored by that trash.

Travis Lutter is a peice of fucking shit imo. The biggest fight in his life against Silva and he didnt make weight, then the second biggest fight in his life ( perhaps the biggest considering the Silva debacle ) and he comes in out of shape and gasses after the first round. UNFUCKINGBELIEVABLE THIS GUY. He did manage a sick arm bar. Too bad he had no wrist control or he may have escaped with an unimaginable win. This guy is a fucking joke. To come in out of shape after all the fucking shit he took for missing weight in the Silva fight? Before this fight, Lutter was arguably the most hated guy in MMA because of the Silva fight. Now...Well like i said, i dont see Dana White letting this guy back in the ring ever. Especially now with Bisping looking really good at 185. Fuck Travis Lutter.

As for McArthy. He was pretty much a jobber anyways coming into the fight against Bisping. I guess someone forgot to tell him that. I was kinda hoping Bisping would land a kick to his jaw right as he stuck his tongue out. Leave his fucking tongue laying on the ground. But that didnt happen. Still Bisping kicked the shit out of him and all the guy could do was make stupid faces and shit. That guy probably wont ever fight for UFC again either.

[RP]

http://i30.tinypic.com/sxjfc1.gif


lol seriously

[Blue Demon]

^^ :rofl: that was amazing.

[Kris P Lettus]

Kalib was a douche on the show and still is a douche..

[Vastardikai]

It wasn't so bad that Quarry did the Screech attack, which was ROFLMAO funny. What made it so sad was that Kalib ran away from it. And Kalib has no right to be pissed off, in my opinion, especially from the "running man." You can't bitch and moan like a little pussy when you went to the Eddie Sanchez school of fighting (see Sanchez-Cro Cop, Eddie was running for his life.). The fans were shitting on the fight, as they should have. But Quarry clearly wasn't to blame.

And, as far as McCarthy goes, he blocked most of Bisping's onslaught. Maybe a little too well, because of the knees that hit him square in the wrist. He probably broke his arm. Bisping vs. Franklin or Bisping vs. Silva would be interresting, but he stands a better chance against Franklin.

I don't want Matt Serra's ribs right now. I was rooting for GSP, my buddy for Serra. We saw Rush come out and I said "He looks ready." my buddy grudgingly agreed. When he's on, GSP is unstoppable. I wouldn't mind seeing GSP-Serra III, especially if it's in New York.

Travis Lutter is a bitch. He was over-weight for Silva, blown up for Franklin. Show some god damned respect for the sport. Though major props to Rich for that God-level armbar escape.

For Broadcasting purposes, Kenny Florian > Joe Rogan.

Also, the Canadian fans are AWESOME!

[Kris P Lettus]

Dunno about that whole KenFlo>Roggan thing..

But, LMFAO @ Quarry saying "how did you go from getting punched in the face to interviewing people?? I want that job.." to Kenny..

[Kris P Lettus]

http://kalibstarnessucks.ytmnd.com/

[RP]

The armbar escape was impressive in that, he kept his head and rolled through it twice. But if it was anyone other then Lutter, Franklin would have had a broken arm and tapped. Lutter just let go of his wrist. For no reason.

[Reavant]

The armbar escape was impressive in that, he kept his head and rolled through it twice. But if it was anyone other then Lutter, Franklin would have had a broken arm and tapped. Lutter just let go of his wrist. For no reason.

no look at the fight again... lutter had his leg crossed over the arm and couldnt anchor the body down so franklin could bridge out over his own head. Lutter would have had it if he had his leg over the chest but he wouldnt have been able to get the armbar at all though if he didnt tuck the leg so whatever.

[McLegend]

Tomorrow is the 1 year anniversary of the death of Cro Cop.

[Kris P Lettus]

http://i30.tinypic.com/sxjfc1.gif


lol seriously

http://i27.tinypic.com/ricieg.jpg

[Jura]

Bruce Buffer is horrible.

[Vastardikai]

^

Must Spread Rep...

You get the idea.

[RP]

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[Kris P Lettus]

Nothing compared to what Ryo Chonan did to Silva..

*check sig*

[Kris P Lettus]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/xad/gspoops.gif

[McLegend]

Bruce Buffer is horrible.

He is a massive tool.

[Loose Cannon]

lol, what the fuck? I wish I had watched it just for that. so do you guys think this one was worth the money or no?

[Loose Cannon]

oh, that response was to Kris' last post on page 34

[Kris P Lettus]

From what I've read, it was a pretty weak PPV..

[Rob]

If you are asking is the show worth buying, fuck yeah it was.

Best crowd in the history of the UFC. Bisping looked awesome. GSP is definately on another level of athlete. Nate Quarry has a personality! Good fights all round minus that fucking idiot Kalib Starnes. He is fucked now. I can't believe he was shouting cusses at people after saying they should be fighting. No motherfucker, YOU should be fighting. Little cunt. And that other fucking idiot Travis Lutter has to be the single most unprofessional fighter in the company history. Blows a title shot when he can't make weight and then shows up for this fight and can't even go 2 rounds? Wanker.

[Kris P Lettus]

I hope to never see Lutter or Kalib in any promotion again..

[Loose Cannon]

wait, was Kalib on the Ultimate Fighter? Cause his name sounds familiar

[Kris P Lettus]

Yeah, he was shit on there too..

[Rob]

Yeah he said he had a broken rib against Kendell Grove and was moving about later fine. Pussy.

[Kris P Lettus]

UFC fighting legend Ken Shamrock is suing the company that runs the show, for allegedly jock blocking his un-retirement.

In a lawsuit filed in Nevada, Shamrock claims after a controversial fight against Tito Ortiz in early 2006, which Ortiz won, defendant ZUFFA, a parent company to the UFC, made a two-fight deal with Shamrock. Under the deal, Shamrock would fight Ortiz again. Shamrock also agreed to yet another fight with someone else, but he had the option of not fighting the second fight in the deal if he chose to retire after the Ortiz bout.

On October 10, 2006, Ortiz beat the crap out of Shamrock. Immediately after losing, Shamrock announced his retirement.

In June, 2007, Shamrock had a change of heart and wanted to go for that second fight under the deal, but ZUFFA said it was over. There's this whole technical thing about confidential documents and other stuff, but the bottom line is ZUFFA didn't provide Shamrock with the second fight so he's pissed.

[Kris P Lettus]

4th time is the charm!!

[Y2Ant]

Kenneth :(

[Confused]

So, whats on the cards for GSP now? Suppose he'll fight Fitch next.

Then a re-match against Serra? another bout against Hughes or a move up in weight?

[Kris P Lettus]

There rumors of him moving up and fighting Silvia..

I dunno..

[Reavant]

at least lutter was right about saying silva was never going to beat him again!

[Reavant]

So, whats on the cards for GSP now? Suppose he'll fight Fitch next.

Then a re-match against Serra? another bout against Hughes or a move up in weight?

hed have to fight fitch next and if theres a ppv ever in newy york you better believe its gonna be him and serra in it

[Reavant]

There rumors of him moving up and fighting Silvia..

I dunno..

thats not going to happen for a long time i think because they like to make their champs look godly which is why dana wouldnt let anderson fight roy jones. i say each guy has to beat two more people before theres noone left and they have to fight. AND dont forget about BJ Penn now. Once he beats Sherk I could see him coming up to 170 and trying to avenge his loss against GSP

[Confused]

Anderson Silva v GSP! Yeah, that'd be worth watching.

Suppose seeing as they've cleaned up in their respective divisions its a very plausible, and financially lucrative option for the UFC.

[Kris P Lettus]

Any of these guys could get a shot, which is why I think GSP moving up would be stupid..

Diego Sanchez
Karo Parysian
Mike Swick
Josh Koscheck
John Fitch

I'd say Thiago Alves should get the next shot..

<table class="data_table" style="" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td colspan="7" class="data_title">Thiago Alves UFC Fight History:</td> </tr> <tr> <th>Result</th> <th>Opponent</th> <th>Method</th> <th>Event</th> <th>Date</th> <th>Round</th> <th>Time</th> </tr> <tr class="data_row_alt"> <td align="left">Win</td> <td align="left">Karo Parisyan (http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=fighter.detail&pid=320)</td> <td align="left">Technical Knock Out</td> <td align="left">UFC® Fight Night™ Kenny Florian vs Joe Lauzon</td> <td align="left">04/02/2008</td> <td align="center">2</td> <td align="left">0:34</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row_alt"> <td align="left">Win</td> <td align="left">Chris Lytle (http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=fighter.detail&pid=229)</td> <td align="left">TKO Stoppage (Cut)</td> <td align="left">UFC® 78 VALIDATION</td> <td align="left">11/17/2007</td> <td align="center">2</td> <td align="left">5:00</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row_alt"> <td align="left">Win</td> <td align="left">Kuniyoshi Hironaka (http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=fighter.detail&pid=492)</td> <td align="left">Technical Knock Out</td> <td align="left">UFC® Fight Night™: Din Thomas vs Kenny Florian </td> <td align="left">09/19/2007</td> <td align="center">2</td> <td align="left">4:04</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row_alt"> <td align="left">Win</td> <td align="left">Tony DeSouza (http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=fighter.detail&pid=157)</td> <td align="left">Technical Knock Out</td> <td align="left">UFC® 66: LIDDELL VS. ORTIZ</td> <td align="left">12/30/2006</td> <td align="center">2</td> <td align="left">1:10</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row_alt"> <td align="left">Win</td> <td align="left">John Alessio (http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=fighter.detail&pid=424)</td> <td align="left">Unanimous Decision</td> <td align="left">Ortiz vs. Shamrock 3 - The Final Chapter</td> <td align="left">10/10/2006</td> <td align="center">3</td> <td align="left">5:00</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row_alt"> <td align="left">Loss</td> <td align="left">Jon Fitch (http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=fighter.detail&pid=378)</td> <td align="left">Technical Knock Out</td> <td align="left">UFC® Fight Night™ 5</td> <td align="left">06/28/2006</td> <td align="center">2</td> <td align="left">4:37</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row_alt"> <td align="left">Win</td> <td align="left">Derrick Noble (http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=fighter.detail&pid=432)</td> <td align="left">TKO Stoppage (Referee)</td> <td align="left">UFC® 59: Reality Check</td> <td align="left">04/15/2006</td> <td align="center">1</td> <td align="left">2:54</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row_alt"> <td align="left">Win</td> <td align="left">Ansar Chalangov (http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=fighter.detail&pid=410)</td> <td align="left">Technical Knock Out</td> <td align="left">UFC® 56: Full Force</td> <td align="left">11/19/2005</td> <td align="center">1</td> <td align="left">2:25</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row_alt"> <td align="left">Loss</td> <td align="left">Spencer Fisher (http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=fighter.detail&pid=389)</td> <td align="left">Submission (Other)</td> <td align="left">UFC® Fight Night™ 2</td> <td align="left">10/03/2005</td> <td align="center">2</td> <td align="left">4:43</td></tr></tbody></table>

[Kris P Lettus]

thats not going to happen for a long time i think because they like to make their champs look godly which is why dana wouldnt let anderson fight roy jones. i say each guy has to beat two more people before theres noone left and they have to fight. AND dont forget about BJ Penn now. Once he beats Sherk I could see him coming up to 170 and trying to avenge his loss against GSP

That would be a good fight..

I'd actually like him to move up and fight Serra first (he beat him at UFC 39), leading up to a Penn/GSP rematch or Serra/GSP rubber match..

[Reavant]

That would be a good fight..

I'd actually like him to move up and fight Serra first (he beat him at UFC 39), leading up to a Penn/GSP rematch or Serra/GSP rubber match..

yea that would be a really good idea... but we'll see. The UFC likes to shit on good opportunities.

I really think that GSP will fight fitch next and Alves needs to beat Serra before he gets his. After GSP fights Serra or Alves I think that would be when the UFC starts to look at him fighting a moving up BJ or moving up to fight Silva.

[Kris P Lettus]

http://www.mmagifs.com/albums/userpics/10001/gsp_wins.gif

[Rob]

Any of these guys could get a shot, which is why I think GSP moving up would be stupid..

Diego Sanchez
Karo Parysian
Mike Swick
Josh Koscheck
John Fitch

I'd say Thiago Alves should get the next shot..

Sanchez ain't getting no title shot anytime soon. Two big loses on his record he needs to do something about first. Parysian had his chance to fight Jon Fitch to get a title shot, pussied out and wanted "easier competition" first and lost so he is fucked. Swick looked horrible in his first fight at 170lbs and will need at least 2 more wins before he stands any chance. He is fighting Marcus Davis in London next and I'd give Davis a shot before Swick right now. Koscheck needs a big win too after being humbled by GSP. Fitch is already in line for the next title shot and I personally think he really needs to up his game because GSP will tear him apart better than he did Koscheck. Thiago Alves is meant to be getting the next shot after Fitch. Personally I'd consider the third Serra fight first just to make sure you get another money fight out of him before he fights Matt Hughes. If he fights Hughes first and loses, it's gonna be real hard to book the third title fight.

[RP]

thats not going to happen for a long time i think because they like to make their champs look godly which is why dana wouldnt let anderson fight roy jones. i say each guy has to beat two more people before theres noone left and they have to fight. AND dont forget about BJ Penn now. Once he beats Sherk I could see him coming up to 170 and trying to avenge his loss against GSP

I think Silva will be GSP's next fight. It makes sense. Why wait for one of them to lose . It as big as it can get right now. And no matter who loses, neither will be hurt by a loss. I mean, if Dana wasnt atleast thinking about it, they probably already would have announced that Okami is the #1. I mean who else in the division? There not throwing Bisping to Silva in his second fight in the division.

I think GSP vs Silva will be the next fight for both.

[Rob]

GSP ain't fighting Silva and BJ Penn ain't moving up in weight. BJ reckons he would only be 160lbs at welterweight anyway and Dana White doesn't want him in that division.

In other UFC news.....

Chuck Liddell is apparently out of the Rashad Evans fight with an injury. None of the big sites have confirmed this yet. It's also known Liddell wasn't keen on fighting in London.

Kalib Starnes has been FIRED~! :D :D :D

[Kris P Lettus]

Sucks about Liddell..

WOOO about Kalib..

[Rob]

Apparently Starnes is saying he fought like a cunt in protest to the UFC for not covering his medical bills and it being the last fight on his shitty deal. What a fucking idiot!!! Even if this is all true (and I doubt it), way to fucking undervalue yourself on one of the biggest PPV shows of all time in your own fucking backyard. Fucking idot! I can't stress this enough. This man should NEVER be paid to fight again.

Correction - He should never be paid to be on a fight show again. Had to correct myself since he just got paid to run like a motherfucker for 15 minutes in a cage.

[Innovator]

30-26, 30-27, and 30-24....I mean seriously you have to suck tremendously (which he did) to get 24

[Reavant]

GSP ain't fighting Silva and BJ Penn ain't moving up in weight. BJ reckons he would only be 160lbs at welterweight anyway and Dana White doesn't want him in that division.



basically thats why there wont be any champion vs champion fights in the near future. Like I said before, Dana wants all the best guys and to have them look as good as they can. Plus with the way that they spread out fights now (4-9 months from each title fight almost), a person with two belts would be holding one belt hostage while the other was being contested. And if you havnt figured out why the big names of the ufc fight only once maybe twice a year is because they dont want to shell out the money to those people that often. Liddell makes over 500K just for fights and that goes up with every fight on his contract and when he wants to resign another contract hes going to want that to go up. Like every other fighter out there. The leverage for an incredible amout of money upon renegotiations of a contract would be unbelievable for a competitor that held two belts or beat the champions of another weight class. THATS why it wont happen until UFC realizes that they keep fucking up and losing/chasing away good fighters to other organizations and they dont have any other way to make a good fight/ card. You will know the UFC is in real trouble when these fights start happening.

[Rob]

I wouldn't mind if they were close in weight but Anderson Silva will go into the Octagon outweighing Georges St Pierre by a minimum of 20lbs. Possibly as much as 30lbs. This would be insane. Chuck Liddell fighting at heavyweight against a guy no bigger than 235lbs I could live with but that's about it.

[Rob]

http://www.sherdog.net/forums/showpost.php?p=18571400&postcount=776

Looks like Kalib Starnes is a liar too.

[Jura]

Looks like he's FFIIIIRRRREEDDDDDDDDD!!!

[Rob]

Erm... I said that like 10 posts ago dude.

[Rob]

Liddell is definately out of the London show now.

[Confused]

Gutting about Liddell. Was really looking forward to seeing him fight.

Any news on a replacement yet?

[Rob]

James Irvin is the name batted around. They are doing 2 more fights on the show so now it's a 13 fight card. Also talk of putting Matt Hughes on the show or more moving Ortiz vs. Machida on the show instead of the Vegas one. Even rumours UFC is trying to mend fences with Extreme Couture.

[RP]

I think they should send Kalin Starnes vs Travis Lutter over there. Starnes would when by TKO in the 2nd round when Lutter get gas'ed chasing him around the ring.

[Reavant]

Even rumours UFC is trying to mend fences with Extreme Couture.

thats weird. Cuz it really looked like theres something behind them letting go sylvia and then him getting the fight with fedor like a day later. Looks like they were trying to fuck up randy's dream fight to me.

[Rob]

I think they should send Kalin Starnes vs Travis Lutter over there. Starnes would when by TKO in the 2nd round when Lutter get gas'ed chasing him around the ring.

Not even funny. These two should never be allowed to be inflicted on anyone ever!

And Starnes wouldn't win by KO because he would have to throw a punch first.

[Y2Ant]

Liddell still wanted to fight even though he tore his hamstring :o

gutted :(

[Rob]

On the London show, don't know if it's the main event or just another big fight but I heard from a very reliable source Michael Bisping will be fighting Chris Leben or Jason McDonald.

[RP]

Not even funny. These two should never be allowed to be inflicted on anyone ever!

And Starnes wouldn't win by KO because he would have to throw a punch first.

NAH, Lutter would just pass out unconcious from exhaustion.

[Reavant]

I think the next question is when is Hughes and Serra going to happen

[Rob]

By the way, I want everyone to remember what I said about Bisping from "my source" whenever anyone questions me on either this forum or the wrestling one. And feel free to check the time I posted it against any website who posts it after.

Of course, it if doesn't happen, forget everything :D

[The CyNick]

Putting Bisping on the London card makes a lot of sense, even though its such a quick turnaround. Big props to him, if he does take a fight to help out the company. I think he could take either Leben or Macdonald, so both seem like good fights for him.

I would just throw Okami vs Silva on the show as the main event. The way I see it, Silva wasnt going to be on the July show (Rampage vs Forrest) and likely wouldnt be on the August show (Brock vs Coleman). So its not like they need him anytime soon to headline. Assuming both guys are healthy, I would do that fight. It would also plant the seeds of Bisping vs Silva down the line (maybe next year in England).

If you did all of that, you could get Irvin vs Rashad, Bisping vs Leben/McDonald and Silva vs Okami. That a pretty good substitute for Liddell.

[Kris P Lettus]

Lasnar is gonna fight Mark Coleman??

LOL

[Reavant]

yea that old man is gonna get his ass kicked

[Rob]

Lasnar is gonna fight Mark Coleman??

LOL

You never knew this? It was announced on a UFC PPV ages ago.

[Rob]

Putting Bisping on the London card makes a lot of sense, even though its such a quick turnaround. Big props to him, if he does take a fight to help out the company. I think he could take either Leben or Macdonald, so both seem like good fights for him.


Rich Clementi is fighting on the next show! Now that's a warrior. Replaces Rob Emerson against Terry Etim.

[Kris P Lettus]

You never knew this? It was announced on a UFC PPV ages ago.

My brother dropped his digi cable so I haven't watch a full PPV in a while..

:'(

Why do you think I bother you to link me to fights every month??

:o

[Rob]

Looks like it could be Nog vs. Mir in London for the title too.

[Reavant]

man how pissed would werdum be

[Rob]

Well Werdum is already fighting on the show. I know they were also seriously considering Gonzaga to fight Nog in London too but if he fights, it's against Mir.

[The CyNick]

Rich Clementi is fighting on the next show! Now that's a warrior. Replaces Rob Emerson against Terry Etim.

Yeah I heard about this, pretty crazy. Rich is a beast for taking that fight.

[Reavant]

I really dont like Rich but i have a ton of respect for him doing this. Although almost any fighter that is in it because they love the sport would try to fight every show too.

[Rob]

Matt Hughes vs. Thiago Alves is on for the London show.

[Kris P Lettus]

Thiago is going to fuck him up..

[Reavant]

god damnit... I want to see hughes fight serra

[RP]

You know what. I'm taking Hughes in that one. I think Alves is still a tad bit raw. Especially for someone like Hughes. I think Matt will get a big time win here.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

I'm fucking excited and angry at the same time right now. Raleigh is having the first MMA (legal) card in NC in 14 years and I'm off the show because I've been out with an injury for two months. I'm excited we finally became legal here but it just bums me out to know that for 12 years I've drove out of state to compete and I'm missing my first shot to do it in my own state. Lots of my buddies are on the card though, Team R.O.C.; we have the most fighters on the card.

[Rob]

There is something about this site that makes people want to do real fights. I've been seriously considering doing one fight (and probably just one fight) for a good few months now.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Rob, brother - there really is nothing like it. Like I said, even missing this one I've done several cards in VA and SC just because it wasn't legal here and been working towards progressing myself for MMA for 12 years (started with a wrestling base). There is nothing on this planet like stepping into a cage with someone else and just going all out.

[Rob]

Chances are your MMA skills are at a better level than mine though. My BJJ is decent and stand up is coming along. There are no wrestlers here in England though so that aspect is always gonna be shit. Plus I'm weighing just over 190lbs now and probably shouldn't even think about it until I get closer to 170lbs.

[Reavant]

thats why u cut weight haha

[Rob]

I could cut 7lbs no problems now but I'd still look and feel worse not being a smaller weight. Plus I've no intention of doing this more than once.

[Reavant]

if u did it right u could cut to 170 from where ur at no problem

[Reavant]

i mean it would be hard but u wouldnt have to cut off a limb if you get what im saying

[Rob]

I'm not in good enough shape now to even think of it. And it ain't even worth discussing since I'm not doing it until I get a purple belt at least and I'm never gonna cut over 20lbs for anything, nevermind a fight.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Yeah, i was never really a fan of cutting :o

Not even for wrestling. I always stayed pretty healthy and close to my competition weight so I never typically had to cut more than 10 lbs. I know I could if I needed to because cutting never really was hard for me, just had no desire to drop a weight class.

[Confused]

So, is the London card complete? Any more fights to be added?

[Kris P Lettus]

Event: UFC 84: “Ill Will”
Date: Saturday, May 24, 2008, at 10 p.m. ET on pay-per-view (PPV)
Location: MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas, Nevada

Main Event:

UFC Lightweight Champion B.J. Penn (12-4-1) vs. Sean Sherk (32-2-1)

Main card (televised):

205 lbs.: Wanderlei Silva (31-8-1) vs. Keith Jardine (13-3-1)
205 lbs.: Goran Reljic (7-0) vs. Wilson Gouveia (10-4)
205 lbs.: Tito Ortiz (15-5-1) vs. Lyoto Machida (12-0)
205 lbs.: Thiago Silva (12-0) vs. Antonio Mendes (14-2)

Under card (may not be broadcast):

185 lbs.: Rousimar Palhares (7-1) vs. Ivan Salaverry (12-5)
205 lbs.: Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou (4-2) vs. Kazuhiro Nakamura (11-7)
155 lbs.: Terry Etim (10-1) vs. Rob Emerson (7-6)
170 lbs.: Jon Koppenhaver (5-1) vs. Yoshiyuki Yoshida (9-2)
170 lbs.: Dong Hyun Kim (9-1-1) vs. Jason Tan (5-2)
265 lbs.: Shane Carwin (8-0) vs. Christian Wellisch (8-3)

*All fights officially confirmed by UFC.com.

Dunno if any others are gonna be added but it's a pretty stcked card even without liddell/Rashad..

[Confused]

Event: UFC 84: “Ill Will”
Date: Saturday, May 24, 2008, at 10 p.m. ET on pay-per-view (PPV)
Location: MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas, Nevada

Main Event:

UFC Lightweight Champion B.J. Penn (12-4-1) vs. Sean Sherk (32-2-1)

Main card (televised):

205 lbs.: Wanderlei Silva (31-8-1) vs. Keith Jardine (13-3-1)
205 lbs.: Goran Reljic (7-0) vs. Wilson Gouveia (10-4)
205 lbs.: Tito Ortiz (15-5-1) vs. Lyoto Machida (12-0)
205 lbs.: Thiago Silva (12-0) vs. Antonio Mendes (14-2)

Under card (may not be broadcast):

185 lbs.: Rousimar Palhares (7-1) vs. Ivan Salaverry (12-5)
205 lbs.: Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou (4-2) vs. Kazuhiro Nakamura (11-7)
155 lbs.: Terry Etim (10-1) vs. Rob Emerson (7-6)
170 lbs.: Jon Koppenhaver (5-1) vs. Yoshiyuki Yoshida (9-2)
170 lbs.: Dong Hyun Kim (9-1-1) vs. Jason Tan (5-2)
265 lbs.: Shane Carwin (8-0) vs. Christian Wellisch (8-3)

*All fights officially confirmed by UFC.com.

Dunno if any others are gonna be added but it's a pretty stcked card even without liddell/Rashad..

Err..thanks, Krispy! :shifty: :lol:

[Kris P Lettus]

I thought that was the London show!!

:foc:

:(

[Confused]

I thought that was the London show!!

:foc:

:(

:lol: :p

[Kris P Lettus]

At least I tried..

:wavesad:

[Kris P Lettus]

Matt Hughes Vs. Thiago Alves - WW
Chris Leben Vs. Michael Bisping - MW
Marcus Davis Vs. Mike Swick - WW
Rashad Evans Vs. James Irvin - LHW
Fabricio Werdum Vs. Brandon Vera - HW
Jorge Rivera Vs. Martin Kampmann - MW
Matt Wiman Vs. Thiago Tavares - LW
Nate Marquardt Vs. Thales Leites - MW
Jason Lambert Vs. Luiz Cane - LHW
Roan Carneiro Vs. TBD - WW
Antoni Hardonk Vs. Neil Wain - HW


Two fight still TBA..

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Matt Hughes saved that card IMO. And yeah, fuck you guys I'm still a Matt Hughes fan. Yay wrestlers.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Oh, and 'big shock' Chuck pulled out of the card he didn't want to do in the first place with an 'injury'.

[Kris P Lettus]

I like wrestlers..

It's uppity redneck dickheads that I don't like..

[Kris P Lettus]

Oh, and 'big shock' Chuck pulled out of the card he didn't want to do in the first place with an 'injury'.

Hey last week call, it wants it's breaking news back..

:roll:

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Hey, stop being a dick called, it wants you to stop being a fucking dick.

:roll:

[Kris P Lettus]

Also, I think he really is hurt TBH..

http://media.ufc.tv/i.cfc?method=get&s=74026625-1422-0E8C-9A858D0261A662B8.jpg&rs=95&q=75&x=-1&y=-3&w=475&h=325&ro=0

http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=news.detail&gid=11489

Looks pretty bad..

[HeartBreakMan2k]

That's someone elses leg :shifty:

Nah, holy shit though.

[Reavant]

i guess he coooould have used make-up..... just to play some devils advocate here

[Rob]

Chuck wanted to fight though and was doing promotion for weeks here. Once he was told to fight here, I wouldn't doubt he was all business from that point on.

[Confused]

Chuck wanted to fight though and was doing promotion for weeks here. Once he was told to fight here, I wouldn't doubt he was all business from that point on.

Yeah. From what i read it was Chucks coach, John Hackleman ( sp ), who didn't want the fight to take place in London.

Pretty sure Chuck would fight in the backlot if asked.

[Rob]

I've heard something about having to pay 2 lots of taxes when you fight in England but I don't know how true that is.

[Reavant]

HAHA I just found this big thread that Starnes put up on sherdog... I know that no one wants to hear about him anymore but this is pretty good:

http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f2/kalib-starnes-tests-positive-marijuana-cocaine-heroin-amphetamines-774287.html

[Reavant]

just for Krispy

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[RP]

like it was said, chuck would fight anywhere as long as he can punch you in the face.

[Rob]

Travis Lutter and Joe Doerksen both released.

Kendell Grove will be fired when he loses next month too.

[Rob]

To the Brits

I have a couple of spare tickets for the UFC show in London on the go if anyone fancies it.

[Vastardikai]

Saw Lutter's firing coming: he is a threat to anyone who can't get out of his submissions in the first round. Otherwise, he's a pushover.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Anyone watching the Dream II show?

[Kris P Lettus]

Is Dream PPV??

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Yeah, or channel-surfing.net stream.

[Gonzo]

There is going to be a segment on ESPN's show 'E:60' tonight at 7pm est about Kimbo Slice for anyone that is interested.

[Reavant]

its a repeat from the fall

[The CyNick]

To the Brits

I have a couple of spare tickets for the UFC show in London on the go if anyone fancies it.

Believe it or not, so do I.

[Rob]

If they are better than mine, I'll take them :D

[Kris P Lettus]

There is going to be a segment on ESPN's show 'E:60' tonight at 7pm est about Kimbo Slice for anyone that is interested.

its a repeat from the fall

Yeah, it's floating around online somewhere..

I'll find it for you guys later..

[The CyNick]

If they are better than mine, I'll take them :D

Probably not, I got cheaper tix.

I was supposed to be going to England around that time for work, but that fell through, so now I have no (free) way of getting there.

[Rob]

You looking to lose them then?

[Kris P Lettus]

Kalib is such a bitch..

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[Rob]

Bisping vs. Leben and Kelly vs. Goulet are both off. UFC is lining up replacement fights for the Brits.

[Confused]

Bit pissed that Leben isn't fighting. Thought Bisping and him would have been an absolute war. But i suppose theres little the UFC can do.

[Kris P Lettus]

Can't believe Leban isn't going to fight do to a DUI arrest from 3 years ago..

Fuck the police..

[Kris P Lettus]

Rob, what was his probation violation or whatever?? Like, what did he do to deserve jail time??

[Rob]

Yeah it's a probation violation from a DUI in 2005. He couldn't leave the country without handing himself in.

[Kris P Lettus]

What was the violation though?? I read he's having to serve 35 day in the pokie, and will only be release like two weeks before the fight, but I wonder what he did to fuck up his probation..

[Rob]

The DUI.

[Kris P Lettus]

So he got a DUI in 2005 that he was on probation for, and since got another DUI, which he's having to serve time for??

[Rob]

As far as I know, the first.

[Kris P Lettus]

Yeah but he had to do something to violate his probation..

[Rob]

He no showed several mandated drink education classes. Apparently he was expecting a fine. Oh well.

[Kris P Lettus]

Damn..

A few hours a week compared to 35 day in jail..

He should've gone to the classes..

[Rob]

Come on, are you questioning the smarts of Chris Leben?

[Reavant]

im suprised hes only gotten in trouble for alcohol

[Kris P Lettus]

Sunday June 1, 2008 LIVE on VS..

<table id="FightCardPrint" class="data_table" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><thead><tr><th>Name</th> <th>Height</th> <th>Weight</th> <th>Record</th> <th>
</th> <th>Name</th> <th>Height</th> <th>Weight</th> <th>Record</th> </tr> </thead> <tfoot> </tfoot> <tbody> <tr class="data_row_alt"> <td>Urijah Faber</td> <td>5' 6" (168 cm)</td> <td>145</td> <td>20-1-0</td> <td class="vs">VS</td> <td>Jens Pulver</td> <td>5' 7" (170 cm)</td> <td>145</td> <td>22-8-1</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row"> <td>Yoshiro Maeda</td> <td>5' 7" (170 cm)</td> <td>135</td> <td>22-4-2</td> <td class="vs">VS</td> <td>Miguel Torres</td> <td>5' 9" (175 cm)</td> <td>135</td> <td>33-1-0</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row_alt"> <td>Chuck Grigsby</td> <td>6' 7" (201 cm)</td> <td>205</td> <td>15-3-0</td> <td class="vs">VS</td> <td>Mark Munoz</td> <td>6' 0" (183 cm)</td> <td>205</td> <td>3-0-0</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row"> <td>Kenneth Alexander</td> <td>5' 9" (175 cm)</td> <td>155</td> <td>5-2-0</td> <td class="vs">VS</td> <td>Rob McCullough</td> <td>5' 8" (173 cm)</td> <td>155</td> <td>15-3-0</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row_alt"> <td>Richard Crunkilton Jr.</td> <td>5' 7" (170 cm)</td> <td>155</td> <td>17-1-0</td> <td class="vs">VS</td> <td>Donald Cerrone</td> <td>6' 0" (183 cm)</td> <td>155</td> <td>7-0-0</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row"> <td>Jeff Curran</td> <td>5' 6" (168 cm)</td> <td>145</td> <td>31-9-1</td> <td class="vs">VS</td> <td>Mike Brown</td> <td>5' 6" (168 cm)</td> <td>155</td> <td>9-3-0</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row_alt"> <td>Chase Beebe</td> <td>5' 7" (170 cm)</td> <td>135</td> <td>13-1-0</td> <td class="vs">VS</td> <td>Will Ribeiro</td> <td>5' 8" (173 cm)</td> <td>135</td> <td>8-1-0</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row"> <td>Tim McKenzie</td> <td>6' 0" (183 cm)</td> <td>205</td> <td>
</td> <td class="vs">VS</td> <td>Eric Schambari</td> <td>5' 11" (180 cm)</td> <td>185</td> <td>7-1-0</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row_alt"> <td>Alex Serdyukov</td> <td>6' 2" (188 cm)</td> <td>170</td> <td>8-4-0</td> <td class="vs">VS</td> <td>Luis Sapo</td> <td>n/a</td> <td>170</td> <td>6-2-0</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row"> <td>Jose Aldo</td> <td>5' 8" (173 cm)</td> <td>145</td> <td>10-1-0</td> <td class="vs">VS</td> <td>Alexandre Nogueira</td> <td>5' 8" (173 cm)</td> <td>145</td> <td>13-4-2</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row_alt"> <td>Charlie Valencia</td> <td>5' 3" (160 cm)</td> <td>135</td> <td>9-3-0</td> <td class="vs">VS</td> <td>Dominick Cruz</td> <td>5' 8" (173 cm)</td> <td>145</td> <td>9-1-0</td> </tr> </tbody> </table>
Pulver vs Faber is gonna be awesome.. Pulver isn't a one trick pony anymore because he's choked out both guys in his two fights in WEC since that last BJ loss..

I'm really look forward to this as I've been enjoying WEC events "pound for pound" more than UFC lately..

[Kris P Lettus]

I :heart: Little Evil but can't see him winning this.. Faber is a machine..

[Kris P Lettus]

I'm really look forward to this as I've been enjoying WEC events "pound for pound" more than UFC lately..

Actually, that last UFC Fight Night was excellent..

:yes:

[Rob]

I :heart: Little Evil but can't see him winning this.. Faber is a machine..

I dunno. I can see Pulver winning with a TKO.

Actually, that last UFC Fight Night was excellent..

:yes:

So was the Montreal PPV.

[Kris P Lettus]

Faber is amazing though.. The dude never gasses and he get in, and out of the weirdest positions.. He throws hellacious bows from inside the guard, easily takes peoples back from the ground, or standing, and even gave up his back to Jeff Curran for like 3 minutes and Curran was never even able to get one arm around his neck..

IMO Faber could beat anyone in, or around, his weight class ATM.. I want to see him in UFC fighting big name guys..

[Rob]

It's only a matter of time. I think it's a very good possibility they will close WEC soon and add one or two divisions to the UFC.

[Reavant]

im pretty sure the plan was for pulver or whoever beats pulver to lead that weight division into the UFC

[McLegend]

Urijah Faber must be seen by more people.

[Kris P Lettus]

New York, NY, May 7, 2008 -- On Saturday, May 31, the best mixed martial arts programming on television will be on Spike TV, as the network presents a special night dedicated to UFC® superstar Chuck "The Iceman" Liddell. The homage to Liddell will feature two Spike TV premiere events not to be missed by true UFC fans.


At 9:00pm ET/PT, Spike presents the world television premiere of "Ultimate Iceman: Chuck Liddell," an hour-long documentary which chronicles the life of one of the sport’s true titans, in and out of the Octagon™.


Spike debuts a special, "Liddell vs. Silva: UFC® Unleashed™-Special Edition" at 10:00pm ET/PT featuring the never-before-seen on cable battle between Liddell and Wanderlei Silva, which was fought last December at UFC 79: NEMESIS.


This historic contest featured the matchup that fight fans waited years to see. Liddell, the biggest name in the sport and former UFC light-heavyweight champion, sought to finally answer the challenges of the long-time PRIDE® superstar Wanderlei "The Axe Murderer" Silva. The special includes additional backstage exclusive footage.

Fighting out of San Luis Obispo, CA, "The Iceman" has a 21-5 professional record. Considered by many to be the biggest star ever in the history of mixed martial arts, Liddell successfully defended his title five times, all by knockout or submission, before giving it up to Rampage Jackson last year. He is currently recovering from a severe hamstring injury he suffered while training, which forced him to withdraw from a fight with "The Ultimate Fighter® 2" Rashad Evans at UFC 85 in June.


Spike TV will kick off this special night dedicated to the "Iceman" at 8:00pm ET/PT with a telecast of the hard-hitting special, "Ultimate Knockouts 4," also featuring some of Liddell’s most memorable bouts.


Spike TV is available in 96.1 million homes and is a division of MTV Networks. A unit of Viacom (NYSE: VIA, VIA.B), MTV Networks is one of the world’s leading creators of programming and content across all media platforms. Spike TV’s Internet address is www.spike.com (http://www.spike.com/).

[RP]

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[Rob]

Worst video ever.

[Innovator]

Announced coaches for TUF 8 ARE


Nog and Mir

[redoneja]

Awesome. Nog can teach his guys how to take a beating and then pull out a submission. :shifty:

[Rob]

That's if they understand a word he says. And Frank Mir coaching? :lol:

[Kris P Lettus]

Mir knows his shit though.. Watch WEC..

Nog will have to rely on his assistances a good bit though, due to him barely speaking English..

[Kris P Lettus]

Joe Stevenson is a fag BTW..

[Rob]

Mir struggles in training for every fight according to a guy I know in Vegas. He constantly see's him working at the Rhino or jumping from strip club to strip club.

And why is Joey Stevenson a fag?