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Rob
06-17-2008, 07:56 PM
First show is July 19. Hell of a card lined up too.

Kris P Lettus
06-18-2008, 10:57 AM
Moving Silva to 205 is ridiculous.. UFC has plenty of LHW around..

Rob, didn't you say something awhile back about WEC and UFC merging?? Is this still going to happen??

Rob
06-18-2008, 01:13 PM
I asked Dana personally last week. He said the idea to make more smaller divisions and then to have everything below 155lbs in WEC and everything above in UFC so all the WEC bigger guys (Paulo Filho for example) will move to UFC.

The CyNick
06-18-2008, 01:29 PM
Dana said basically the same thing in Montreal during the Q/A before UFC 83.

Although I think he said that it would be 155 and below when he was in Montreal. I thought that was wierd because I didnt think they would send BJ to WEC. But it makes more sense now with the rumours that BJ is going back to 170 to fight GSP.

If that happens, I could see them moving 155 to WEC.

Rob
06-18-2008, 02:23 PM
155lbs is staying in UFC for sure.

Kris P Lettus
06-18-2008, 03:13 PM
So what was the big announcement??

Did I miss something??

Rob
06-18-2008, 03:20 PM
I heard what it was but I'm not opening my mouth again until it's public. What I heard was pretty big though.

Kris P Lettus
06-18-2008, 03:25 PM
They were supposed to announce it last week?? And then yesterday??

What is the hold up??

Kris P Lettus
06-18-2008, 03:25 PM
(pm me)

:shifty:

Kris P Lettus
06-18-2008, 03:30 PM
“I told the guys it’s a blood choke, so you don’t have to squeeze hard. So I was just kind of choking him with one arm while he’s standing up. And I told him just tap when you start to feel like you’re going to pass out. Well, he didn’t tap, and at the time I’m going wow, this guy’s pretty tough, I’m surprised he hasn’t tapped yet. He just drops to the floor in the cell. Now I’m standing there with 20 prisoners around and they’re freaking out. This guy’s laying there, snoring like crazy. I’m like ‘it’s all right, it’s all right,’ then I realize they have cameras in here. I’ve just choked this guy out in jail – I could get in trouble for this. I kept telling them, ‘he’s fine, he’s fine,’ and it took this guy a minute to wake up. Finally he woke up and we had a laugh, and luckily I didn’t get in any trouble for it. That was beginning and the ending of my inmate coaching career.”

– UFC middleweight fighter Chris Leben — who recently served an 11-day bit in Clackamas County Jail in Portland, Oregon, for a parole violation (he was also under house arrest for 25 days after his release) — tells MMAWeekly.com a little bit about the the confining experience. “The Crippler” seems to be a better man as a result and has his sights set on an August return to the Octagon. While incarcerated he had to miss a planned fight against Michael Bisping at UFC 85: “Bedlam” — perhaps that match up is still on the table for later this year.


LOL

Rob
06-18-2008, 03:58 PM
That Lorenzo Fertitta is resigning from his post at the president of Station Casinos to work full-time in expanding UFC.

Fertitta is leaving a post where he was the second highest paid casion executive in Las Vegas in 2007, earning a total of $113.8 million.

Frank Fertitta III will become the man in charge of Station Casinos at CEO and retain 45% ownership in UFC, while Lorenzo Fertitta will work alongside Dana White as the co-heads of UFC.

Yeah this isn't what I was told. Blame Meltzer. He told my buddy two different stories and killed the Mayweather one the day after he told him. I saw the txts msgs myself.

McLegend
06-18-2008, 07:53 PM
So I guess Lorenzo Fertitta is gonna do contract negotiations, beucase that's obviously not Dana's strong suite?

Rob
06-19-2008, 04:40 AM
I love how a fighter with a 0-0 pro record is making his debut in the Ultimate Fighter tournament final! :D This is sooooo awesome. Go on Amir.

weather vane
06-19-2008, 03:48 PM
I'm pissed that Jesse Taylor isn't in it. Brutal.

Stickman
06-19-2008, 04:36 PM
I'm pissed that Jesse Taylor isn't in it. Brutal.

But he's a complete moron who doesn't deserve to be there no matter if he won those fights or not. He's an idiot.

Rob
06-19-2008, 05:05 PM
Bullshit. That punishment was too harsh. He does deserve to be there too because he beat 3 guys to do it. CB Dollaway lost a fight and is in the final. HE doesn't deserve to be there.

weather vane
06-19-2008, 05:31 PM
Yeah I can safely say that A LOT of UFC fighters have done worse then what JT Money did. He did not deserve to be kicked off the show AT ALL. Hell I have done worse then him. He was in Vegas with a bunch of his friends, drinking ... what did they expect to happen?

RP
06-19-2008, 05:51 PM
Chris Leben is easily one of my top 5 favorite fighters. Nick Diaz is there too.

Stickman
06-19-2008, 05:55 PM
I think Dana did the right thing. He did tell the guy that he's not ready yet and he's right, at the end of their meeting Dana did say "call me in a few months". That leaves the door open down the road, but he deserved to be punished.
What punishment do you think would fit?

Rob
06-19-2008, 07:13 PM
Er... nothing. It's none of Dana's fucking business what fighters do in their own lives. In the house, it's his rules. Outside the house, FUCK DANA.

Stickman
06-19-2008, 07:31 PM
RVD and Sabu getting pulled over and charged with pot possession isn't any of Vince MacMahon's business?

Stickman
06-19-2008, 07:32 PM
Going around acting like an idiot telling people you're a UFC fighter isn't Dana's business?

Rob
06-19-2008, 07:45 PM
1 - As independent contractors, it was none of Vince McMahon's business when RVD got pulled over. And he wasn't even charged so how is that a big deal. If I get arrested, my work doesn't punish me.

2 - Nope.

When you aren't on the clock, it ain't your bosses business. FACT.

Stickman
06-19-2008, 07:57 PM
Usually I agree with you but here I disagree.

The guy fucked up. I'm sure he'll be in the UFC one day but he deserved to be punished here. I wouldn't be suprised if Dana kept the guy out of jail.

You say, "When you aren't on the clock, it ain't your bosses business. FACT." And that I understand but the line is kind of fuzzy. If you make your bosses company look bad outside of company hours it's his business. Rampage even said to Dana on the show, "You dont' want a guy like that in your company." And I'm sure he didn't say that hoping CB would get chosen to fight in the finale.

No matter what line of work you're in, if you embarass your employeer expect repercussions.

Rob
06-19-2008, 07:58 PM
If it was anyone other than Jesse or Amir, this discussion wouldn't even be taking place.

Stickman
06-19-2008, 08:14 PM
True, because nobody else was going to big dance.

Rob
06-19-2008, 08:56 PM
Like 4 or 5 guys are fighting on that show other than the finalists. Anyways, I see your point. I just don't agree with it. Only opinion that counts anyway is Dana's and he made his clear.

weather vane
06-19-2008, 09:37 PM
It's bullshit.

Reavant
06-20-2008, 01:57 AM
When you aren't on the clock, it ain't your bosses business. FACT.

well when your a public figure and you actions can potentially affect your employer then yea it is the bosses business, but he didnt do enough to get kicked out of the finals.

Rob
06-20-2008, 04:46 AM
I just think it's weird how they let people smash the house and show people pissing their pants twice on TV and that's ok but kick in a window costs you a job.

Innovator
06-20-2008, 11:42 AM
I think the window was the least of what he did, verbally abusing women in a hotel and getting into it with security, all while saying you're "a UFC fighter, don't you know who i am" was what cost him his spot

Reavant
06-20-2008, 12:08 PM
I just think it's weird how they let people smash the house and show people pissing their pants twice on TV and that's ok but kick in a window costs you a job.

he did that in the house not in public. Cops couldnt come after him in the house. Although Im sure he had to pay for all the damage he did.

Rob
06-20-2008, 12:41 PM
I bet you he didn't pay for shit.

And they never called the cops on him out of town either.

Reavant
06-20-2008, 01:52 PM
well id be interested to see if there were any reprocussions for what he did to the house... and regardless of whether cops were involved with what he did after the show, people outside the ufc were. Which if they were so inclined could have gotten the cops involved.

Rob
06-20-2008, 08:26 PM
Others trashed the house a lot more than Jesse did.

Reavant
06-21-2008, 01:24 AM
OK... id be interested to see if they were all fined or whatever is what i meant.... anyway, I talked to gideon ray at practice today and he was saying that the producers tell the guys to fuck up the house.

HeartBreakMan2k
06-21-2008, 01:27 AM
Yeah I was gonna say that. They seem to fuck it up once a season, so I'm sure the show tells them something like that. "alright guys, have fun and destroy the house, it'll be good tv".

Reavant
06-21-2008, 01:35 AM
yea he was goin on and on today. He has a ton of stories. he said that they wont get them healthy food all the time when they request it, but if theres any alcohol they want at all its there in a drop of a hat. The house is all paid for so theres no penalty for destruction and they tell you to fuck it up. They dont wash the mats or equipment. He said that there hasnt been a single season of the show where a guy wasnt seriously hospitalized after for staph. They wouldnt let him shower after his fight with deweese right away because they wanted to interview him and he was about to vomit everywhere because hes a germaphobe. He also had some cool stories about smith, shonnie carter and spratt.

Reavant
06-21-2008, 01:35 AM
Id never do the ultimate fighter if i got the chance.

weather vane
06-21-2008, 01:45 AM
Good call Reavant.

Rob
06-21-2008, 07:33 AM
Id never do the ultimate fighter if i got the chance.

I doubt that. Any fighter out there ain't gonna refuse one of the biggest breaks of their careers.

And there ain't gonna be an Ultimate Fighter show for much longer anyway.

McLegend
06-21-2008, 01:55 PM
Yeah they gotta stop the show for like a year or two. It's gotten mad old.

Rob
06-21-2008, 03:03 PM
It's either being canned or seriously revamped. It will be over in it's current format after the next season with Nog and Mir.

HeartBreakMan2k
06-21-2008, 03:17 PM
I'd almost like to see them keep the format for the way and when the fights work, but instead of making them live in the house, send a camera crew out to two camps who have THEIR guys as contestants. They'd need to mend fences with Xtreme Couture though for me to give a shit about it.

Rob
06-21-2008, 04:50 PM
Never gonna happen this way. The average fan wants to see the personalities, not the gym work and the fights.

Plus the level of fighter on the show now is very below par with the odd exception.

HeartBreakMan2k
06-21-2008, 04:57 PM
Yeah, I know. I just think it would be sick to watch camps square off with one another. Do something where whichever camp generates the winner of the show, they're on the next season or whatever against another camp. Could generate tons of revenue for the individual camps as well. Would be sick.

And yeah, I know it's not gonna happen. Just my own little dream world.

Rob
06-21-2008, 05:07 PM
Kim Couture got bashed all over the shop last night. Lost her debut fight 30-27 on scorecards and a broken nose to boot.

RP
06-21-2008, 11:07 PM
I so tired of fighters practically making love to eachother in the ring after they finish fighting. Fuck that shit.

RP
06-22-2008, 12:15 AM
I'm rooting for Tanner to win for 2 reasons. 1) I dont think i can stomach him getting dominated again and then the possibility that he'll go fall off the wagon. 2) Kendal Grove is such waste of talent. That guy should have been knocking on Anderson Silva's door by now. And i wanna see him get the shit eating grin submitted off his face.

RP
06-22-2008, 12:54 AM
I hope UFC give Evan Tanner some sort of job. Or atleast extends a position in the company doing something. Something to keep him busy. I hope they dont just throw him out after this loss.

RP
06-22-2008, 12:58 AM
how a judge managed to score the fight in favor of Tanner is beyond me.

Kris P Lettus
06-22-2008, 02:44 AM
Why are they still calling the heavyweight championship the "interim" hwc??

Is Couture supposed to come back??

Reavant
06-22-2008, 05:02 AM
hes still an employee technically and still contracted under the UFC and hasnt been stripped

Rob
06-22-2008, 02:58 PM
CB Dolloway is a fucking homo. Can't stand his fucking attitude, his top lip or the fact he got beat by the same finish TWICE by a fighter with ZERO pro experience and then complains how he didn't tap but it was fucking clear as bright blue sky on a summers day that he did.

Evan Tanner has nothing left now. He needs to retire. Kendall is another stupid fucker though. He was calling him washed up before the fight. Good job buddy! You just admitted you beat a washed up fighter. Talk about putting yourself down.

James Steele
06-22-2008, 03:20 PM
I am glad I'm not the only one who can't stand CB.

redoneja
06-22-2008, 03:25 PM
I am glad I'm not the only one who can't stand CB.

Same here. I didn't think Amir would beat him again but I was so fucking glad he was able to do it.....and with the same technique as well.

Also, Matthew Riddle looked really good last night. I'm interested in seeing how he progresses.

James Steele
06-22-2008, 03:31 PM
I wonder how CB didn't think that would be considered a tap.

Rob
06-22-2008, 04:02 PM
He tried to lie his way out of it obviously. Good job they never gave him a mic or he would embarrass himself further. Beaten by the same finish TWICE :D This made me soooo happy. I actually popped for Amir too. Wish him all the luck in the world. CB shouldn't have even been fighting this fight so justice was somewhat done.

Innovator
06-22-2008, 05:04 PM
Stevie Wonder saw CB tap last night, what an idiot

RP
06-22-2008, 05:26 PM
Looked like he thought he was gunna get his arm broke, so insta tapped, but Amir didnt have that arm bent back at all.


I didnt watch any of this seasons Ultimate Fighter, but it seemed to me like UFC created a Forrest Griffin clone. They seem like the exact same person. Probably fixed.

Terra Ryzin
06-22-2008, 10:56 PM
soooo pumped that amir won. cant stand cb and his cocky attitude and as rob said is ugly upper lip! in a post fight interview he did admit to tapping though, said he was more shocked in himself blah blah.

my hat goes off to tanner, he is a warrior. if this is the end for him he went out on top even in a loss, battled to the end.

riddle was pretty impressive, considering his age and inexperiance he will be interesting to follow. for his next fight id throw him in with someone like cote.

RP
06-23-2008, 01:27 AM
yah Riddle looks like he has a very bright future.

Rob
06-23-2008, 01:48 PM
Amir might be my new favourite fighter now.

Destor
06-23-2008, 02:43 PM
So what did that big announcement turn out to be?

Destor
06-23-2008, 02:44 PM
While I'm in here, Hulk Hogan thinks MMA is a work, anyone's thoughts on this? Dave Meltzer seems to think MMA is just like prowrestling as well...and I have no idea why....

Destor
06-23-2008, 02:45 PM
Total bs of course, just want to here some opinion on it.

Stickman
06-23-2008, 03:05 PM
Am I the only one who found the Finale event kind of boring? No 'great' fights. The main event was lackluster. I dunno, maybe I was in a bad mood when watching.

RP
06-23-2008, 04:20 PM
While I'm in here, Hulk Hogan thinks MMA is a work, anyone's thoughts on this? Dave Meltzer seems to think MMA is just like prowrestling as well...and I have no idea why....

Where has Dave Meltzer said this? He write for Yahoo's MMA section. I'm pretty sure he wouldnt have a job if thats what he honestly thought. Its not a work, but that Kimbo Slice fight was a huge work.

The CyNick
06-23-2008, 06:17 PM
It's either being canned or seriously revamped. It will be over in it's current format after the next season with Nog and Mir.

I know they can always change their minds, but I remember hearing that the last deal with Spike called for TUF seasons throughout the life of the contract. Didnt they talk about cutting down to one TUF season per year and then adding some new live fight program?

If they go this route, I think it would be a wise move. I would want to keep some version of TUF just because its been a staple now for years in the UFC. But I also think that they cant keep doing two shows a year and keep it interesting.

Not sure how a live weekly fight show would work logistically, but it would seem like a good way to get these lower level guys more exposure outside undercards of PPVs.

Rob
06-23-2008, 06:46 PM
Where has Dave Meltzer said this? He write for Yahoo's MMA section. I'm pretty sure he wouldnt have a job if thats what he honestly thought. Its not a work, but that Kimbo Slice fight was a huge work.

Meltzer says it's shoot version of pro wrestling because it is everything a real pro wrestling match would be and they book better programs and stories and hype for shows. Hogan thinks it's a work. Hogan is an idiot.

Reavant
06-23-2008, 07:44 PM
Dont get me started on Hogan. I absolutly HATE this man. Ive met him and he is the scum of the earth and probably the most ignorant as well.

RP
06-24-2008, 08:25 PM
Also, I'll break some other news.

The next UK card is planned for October 18 in Birmingham at the NIA.

Card is planned as...

Anderson Silva vs. Yushin Okami
Dan Henderson vs. Rich Franklin
Tyson Griffin vs. Clay Guida

I'm very happy about all of this.

You've been getting some bad info

http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news;_ylt=AnfSDjqYRBMEujoxw_r3njo9Eo14?slug=ys-mmaweekhendo062408&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Reavant
06-25-2008, 09:20 AM
Rob, I think the guy that gives you information is one of the guys that the UFC feeds bullshit on purpose so that noone really knows whats up

Rob
06-25-2008, 09:46 AM
Rob, I think the guy that gives you information is one of the guys that the UFC feeds bullshit on purpose so that noone really knows whats up

To be fair, I heard the same thing from someone else too but then they booked the July 19 show out of nowhere and thinks went to shit. Also heard Franklin wants nothing to do with Dan Henderson.

Reavant
06-25-2008, 09:48 AM
haha thats probably true about franklin... he often comes accross as quite the vagoin

Innovator
06-25-2008, 11:33 AM
Why would Franklin want to fight him? He'd get worked for 3 rounds, possibly KOd

Rob
06-25-2008, 12:00 PM
Heard he is fighting Matt Hamill at 205 next.

Reavant
06-25-2008, 02:37 PM
oh nice

Danny Electric
06-25-2008, 08:24 PM
so no birmingham show :(

Rob
06-25-2008, 08:37 PM
Yeah there is a Birmingham show. October 18. Was meant to be the NIA but I think it's gonna be the NEC.

Danny Electric
06-25-2008, 08:39 PM
cool, any idea on when tickets will go on sale?

Rob
06-25-2008, 09:45 PM
About 4 weeks I think. Don't quote me on this though.

Reavant
06-26-2008, 12:52 AM
About 4 weeks I think. Don't quote me on this though.

too late

Rob
06-26-2008, 05:45 AM
Fucker

Destor
06-26-2008, 10:34 AM
So what did that big announcement turn out to be?

Reavant
06-26-2008, 11:07 AM
ferttita going to ufc

Reavant
06-26-2008, 11:08 AM
Fucker

:D

Rob
06-26-2008, 11:55 AM
There's some sort of announcement today too. Probably to do with the October show. If you're in Britain, Setanta around 7pm - check it.

Rob
06-26-2008, 05:31 PM
October 18 - Birmingham NIA (result, right off broad street) and Bisping vs. Leben is signed.

Danny Electric
06-26-2008, 09:17 PM
Nice one, my brother lives opposite the NIA, and I only live a bus ride away,

Rob
06-27-2008, 09:09 AM
I'll be back in London by then but I'm still going.

Reavant
07-03-2008, 06:29 PM
My first MMA fight is July 31st :D

Rob
07-04-2008, 09:32 AM
Make sure you record it. I'm dying to see it dude. Good luck.

Reavant
07-04-2008, 12:55 PM
It will be... my coach puts all of the fights he coaches on youtube. http://www.jeffnealjiujitsu.com/

Rob
07-04-2008, 01:19 PM
Good stuff.

Kris P Lettus
07-04-2008, 03:35 PM
As I said in the other thread, good luck, bro.. You are a beast so stick to your gameplan and you should be fine..

:D

I have to work all day/night tomorrow so I'm gonna miss Rampage/Forrest..

:(

Rob
07-04-2008, 03:41 PM
I got my tickets for the Birmingham show today. Lovely Lovely!

Kris P Lettus
07-04-2008, 03:43 PM
I need to plan a trip to Las Vegas around going to a UFC event..

Prolly be in like 2012..

:(

Rob
07-04-2008, 04:11 PM
I'm going next May.

Reavant
07-04-2008, 07:59 PM
i have to work during UFC 86 but I have off the 19th :D

Danny Electric
07-04-2008, 08:38 PM
Rob tickets don't go on sale till Sunday so how did you get yours?

Rob
07-05-2008, 07:42 AM
Pre sale. Call up now. Password is "COUNT".

Rob
07-05-2008, 07:44 AM
i have to work during UFC 86 but I have off the 19th :D

You watching Affliction or UFC?

All the Americans answer this please.

Confused
07-05-2008, 09:45 AM
Got my tickets for the UFC birmingham show yesterday. Nice.

Any word on the fights they've planned?

Rob
07-05-2008, 01:28 PM
Bisping vs. Leben and Thiago Alvez vs. Diego Sanchez so far.

And it's on Spike for the yanks.

Crimson
07-05-2008, 01:55 PM
Ooooh..Alves/Sanchez sounds good. Tastes better when it's free :D

Rob
07-05-2008, 02:10 PM
Alvez will kill that fucker.

RP
07-05-2008, 07:58 PM
This fight tonight smells like an upset. I think Forrest might win this. I think he might knock him out.

Innovator
07-05-2008, 08:02 PM
I have no preference for the fight, I like both guys. Gonna be a great fight though

RP
07-05-2008, 08:03 PM
I cant buy this one, anyone got a stream or link to one i can watch tonight?

Kris P Lettus
07-05-2008, 08:50 PM
mmashare.com will have it up after the fights..

Reavant
07-05-2008, 10:22 PM
You watching Affliction or UFC?

All the Americans answer this please.

Both :D

Reavant
07-05-2008, 10:22 PM
And fitch might be out of 87 with a broken thumb

Crimson
07-05-2008, 10:45 PM
Wow that sucks.

Crimson
07-05-2008, 10:46 PM
Alvez will kill that fucker.

Maybe, but I like all of Diego's fights..he goes all out.

Impact!
07-06-2008, 02:53 AM
Fuck that was bloody

RP
07-06-2008, 03:14 AM
I was rooting for Chris Lytle. Such a cool guy. I've met him several times in my line of work because he's a Indianapolis Fire Fighter.


I havent watched the fights, but i'm told Griffin looked fantastic.

Impact!
07-06-2008, 03:37 AM
Griffin is one tough bastard

Rob
07-06-2008, 12:52 PM
The scoring on the Jackson vs. Griffin fight was shocking. Personally, I had Rampage winning by a round but 3 was close enough that you could score it either way. No fucking way did Griffin win the 2nd 10-8. It wasn't close to being finished and that is what a 10-8 is meant to be. If this was 10-8, Josh Koscheck wins all his fights 30-24. How the hell can a crowd boo Forrest Griffin though. Fucking disgrace. Still the first 3 rounds might have been the most exciting of a title fight in history.

Koscheck vs. Lytle - No excuses for the referee performace in this one. Embarrassing. Fight should have been stopped in round 2 on the cut and there was many a time where Lytle was out on his feet or at least very dazed.

Gleison Tibau is every reason why fighters should have to weigh in on the day of the fight too. He must have been 180lbs easy going into a 155lbs fight. Thank God he lost.

Rob
07-06-2008, 01:26 PM
Oh yeah, Cote and Almeida fucking suck dick. Both should be killed. Awful fight. Let them both fight Anderson Silva at the same time and he would still kill them. Fucking wankers.


And Paul Kelly vs. Sam Stout for Birmingham has been added.

Crimson
07-06-2008, 02:41 PM
lol..I missed the ppv..but it's surprising to hear that it was a close fight and Griffin won. Usually if it is a close bout the champ retains.

Rob
07-06-2008, 03:33 PM
Griffin is a Vegas boy and judges are stupid cunts. They need to start explaining their scoring. This has been a long time coming.

Forrest is the man though. Credit where it's due.

Innovator
07-06-2008, 03:59 PM
Fez cost Rampage the fight, told him to leave his leg out there while giving him a pound before the fight

Reavant
07-06-2008, 04:32 PM
I didnt see the fight but everyone seems pissed about the forrest/jackson decision

Rob
07-06-2008, 04:50 PM
I didnt see the fight but everyone seems pissed about the forrest/jackson decision

The decision wasn't the problem. The scoring was. It could have been 47-46 either way or even a draw. It was close. The scoring totally doesn't reflect that. Hometown fighter won. Surprised?

Stickman
07-06-2008, 05:54 PM
I dont' supposed somebody could be the man and post the Rampage fight on here.

Rob
07-06-2008, 05:58 PM
Honestly I've looked and can't find it. Can only find the whole show on download.

Cactus Sid
07-06-2008, 06:13 PM
No fucking way did Griffin win the 2nd 10-8.

Personally mate, I'd have to disagree on that one.

I understand your point about 10-8 being for a situation where the round is close to being finished, but you can make the argument that if one of the fighters makes no attempt at offense in the entire round, that would constitute a 10-8 round (i.e. complete domination) Jackson attempted one punch and went for Griffin's leg which was brushed aside, and then for the next 4 and a half minutes he did nothing but defend. Griffin went for an Americana, a Guillotine and was throwing elbows and punches consistently, he rocked him with the kicks and took him down.

That said, I scored 3 rounds 10-9 to Jackson, finishing 47-47. It was never 49-46, that was bullshit.

Vastardikai
07-06-2008, 07:03 PM
I'm with Sid.

I had the Rounds Scored 10-9 'Page, 10-8 Griffin, 10-9 'Page, 10-9 'Page, 10-9 Griffin. IOW, a draw.

Apparently, counter-punching means DICK to these judges.

Forrest's first defense should be against Wanderlei. Only because I want to see him get Rape Choked...

Rob
07-06-2008, 07:44 PM
No way. Silva doesn't deserve a title shot. Rampage rematch or Liddell vs. Evans winner. As much as it pains me to say it, Lyoto Machida deserves a shot before Silva.

Terra Ryzin
07-06-2008, 11:19 PM
http://mixedmartialartvideos.com/ the fights are here

they post every fight from every league almost immediatly plus tons of older fights

The CyNick
07-06-2008, 11:25 PM
I had it a draw, but 3 and 4 IMO could have gone either way. I gave Forrest #2 10-8 because he did almost stop the fight with those leg kicks and Rampage was just trying to hang on and did nothing in the way of offense.

It was a close entertaining fight, cant believe anyone is overly upset at the decision. Even the 49-46 score, which I think was wrong, still could have made sense, because most people thought Forrest won round 2 and Rampage won 1, and the other 3 were up in the air.

For the record, Meltzer said the reaction for Forrest in the arena was good when he won, just the negative people were louder I guess.

Sounded like the undercard was better than the main card (Cole Miller and Corey Hill apparently had good fights)

Destor
07-07-2008, 12:06 AM
I agree with 49-46, really good fight and I would LOVE to see a rematch.

Reavant
07-07-2008, 03:05 AM
No way. Silva doesn't deserve a title shot. Rampage rematch or Liddell vs. Evans winner. As much as it pains me to say it, Lyoto Machida deserves a shot before Silva.



The only way Silva was getting a shot was if Rampage held the title. Now Rampage might have to beat Silva to get back to it which would be very homosexual in my opinion. Silva is up 2-0 on rampage and the only way they should do the match is if rampage is the champ.

Rob
07-07-2008, 07:55 AM
I agree with 49-46, really good fight and I would LOVE to see a rematch.

You're saying Rampage only won 1 round?


The only way Silva was getting a shot was if Rampage held the title. Now Rampage might have to beat Silva to get back to it which would be very homosexual in my opinion. Silva is up 2-0 on rampage and the only way they should do the match is if rampage is the champ.

Pride doesn't count in the UFC though even though they own it. No way are they gonna build Rampage as a guy who lost twice to Silva.

Destor
07-07-2008, 09:03 AM
You're saying Rampage only won 1 round?

I could definitely see how someone could say that yeah. The fourth round was the only one he undeniably won. The only other round I can see and argument for is the first because he almost stopped the fight, but that was still only one punch with the rest of the round going to Forrest.

Pretty irrelevent in any case. That fight was neck in neck, but Forrest looked better from where I was sitting.

Rob
07-07-2008, 09:18 AM
I absolutely can't see you're point here.

Dave Youell
07-07-2008, 09:22 AM
Yey Forrest wooh!

Destor
07-07-2008, 09:23 AM
I absolutely can't see you're point here.Point: 49-46 isn't unreasonable.

Rob
07-07-2008, 09:24 AM
I very much disagree.

Destor
07-07-2008, 09:38 AM
Not really trying to start some big debate here, but what rounds would you give Rampage?

Rob
07-07-2008, 09:42 AM
1,3,5 and I wouldn't give Forrest the 2nd 10-8.

Destor
07-07-2008, 09:43 AM
No shit?

Damn. Me and a buddy were watching it and at then end of the second we both said 10-8 Forrest. So I dunno.

1,3,5, though. Crazy, I'd give Rampage 4 easy. Dunno. :shrug:

Impact!
07-07-2008, 09:58 AM
Honoustly I'm hoping for Jackson V Liddell (loved there Pride 2003 Final Conflict fight) or if Liddell wins against Rashad, go with Jackson V Wanderlei (round 3), Liddell V Forrest, and either Rashad or Jardine V Lyoto.

Kris P Lettus
07-07-2008, 10:05 AM
No way. Silva doesn't deserve a title shot. Rampage rematch or Liddell vs. Evans winner. As much as it pains me to say it, Lyoto Machida deserves a shot before Silva.

I was talking with my brother yesterday and said pretty much the same thing.. It should def be the winner of Liddell/Rashad.. I mean Liddell pretty much made the LHW title and was the one who lost it to Jackson.. And Rashad is still undefeated in the toughest weightclass in any promotion in MMA history..

I could also see Machida getting a shot..

Fuck a Wanderlei..

Kris P Lettus
07-07-2008, 10:08 AM
Pride doesn't count in the UFC though even though they own it. No way are they gonna build Rampage as a guy who lost twice to Silva.

They did it with Liddell/Rampage though.. The built upm that fight based on Chuck losing to Rampage in Pride.. But I guess at the time alot of casual (American) MMA fans didn't really know who Rampage was so, I dunno..

The CyNick
07-07-2008, 10:28 AM
Seems like this is tailor made for Liddell to get the next shot, assuming he can beat Evans. Then they can possibly do Rampage vs Wand as a top contenders fight.

If Rashad wins, then I could see them giving the shot to Wand believe it or not, or maybe go right back to the rematch between Forrest and Rampage.

Machida needs one more win to really cement himself as the #1 contender, but it has to be against a top 5 guy. So someone like Wand or Shogun IMO would make sense.

Vastardikai
07-07-2008, 11:21 AM
No way. Silva doesn't deserve a title shot. Rampage rematch or Liddell vs. Evans winner. As much as it pains me to say it, Lyoto Machida deserves a shot before Silva.

I know, I was just amused by the idea of Forrest getting rape choked with one hand and getting punched out with the other (ala Jardine).

But yes, 'Page does deserve the rematch.

Kris P Lettus
07-07-2008, 11:41 AM
Silva couldn't beat Forrest's meat..

As much as he might want to..

Reavant
07-07-2008, 12:36 PM
Pride doesn't count in the UFC though even though they own it. No way are they gonna build Rampage as a guy who lost twice to Silva.
They did it with Liddell/Rampage though.. The built upm that fight based on Chuck losing to Rampage in Pride.. But I guess at the time alot of casual (American) MMA fans didn't really know who Rampage was so, I dunno..

I was going to say the exact same thing. Plus even the casual fans are going to realize that rampage is 0-2 against wanderlei. When they were hyping silva and liddel, they were showing clips of rampage getting beat down by silva and they hyped the match as the guy that beat rampage twice.

RP
07-07-2008, 03:44 PM
Silva would murder Griffin

James Steele
07-07-2008, 03:55 PM
WE WANT COUTURE! WE WANT COUTURE! WE WANT COUTURE! WE WANT COUTURE!

The CyNick
07-07-2008, 04:21 PM
I was going to say the exact same thing. Plus even the casual fans are going to realize that rampage is 0-2 against wanderlei. When they were hyping silva and liddel, they were showing clips of rampage getting beat down by silva and they hyped the match as the guy that beat rampage twice.

Its wierd how they do it. They will not totally ignore the history from Pride, but they tell the story that suits their purposes.

For example, when talking about Liddell-Jackson, you only really hear about the UFC 71 fight, you dont hear them say "and now Jackson is 2-0 against Liddell".

However, I would bet if they do Liddell-Jackson 3, they will play up the fact that this is huge for Liddell because he's had two loses in his career to Jackson in the Countdown show. But on the commercials to the mass audience, they will just talk about Jackson taking Liddell's title, not the backstory from Pride days.

Then, if Liddell wins that third fight, and they want to sell a rubber match (UFC), the Pride fight will be largely forgotten.

Destor
07-07-2008, 04:30 PM
Just watched it with another freind and he scored it 47-47. (Gave round 2 10-8 Griffen.)

Great fight though. They have to have a rematch in the near future.

Stickman
07-07-2008, 04:58 PM
1,3,5 and I wouldn't give Forrest the 2nd 10-8.

I'd say Forrest won the round 10-8.

Round three was the only one that was hard to score.

James Steele
07-07-2008, 05:10 PM
I just finished the Jackson/Griffin fight and scored it like this:

Round 1: 10-9 JACKSON
Rampage did more damage despite not being a constant grind. The last 90 seconds gave Rampage the round and hurt Forrest.

Round 2: 10-7 GRIFFIN
Utter domination on the ground by Griffin on Jackson and leg kicks that did their job.

Round 3: 10-9 JACKSON
Rampage dodged and blocked a lot of the blows, and hit Griffin harder until the tail end of the fight. The last flurry wasn't enough for Forrest to overcome the power of the strikes by Rampage.

Round 4: 10-9 JACKSON
Rampage and Forrest went to-to-toe in this round. I barely give the edge to Rampage just because he got out of the triangle with that slam and got the good opening slam in while Forrest got his licks in, but was on the defense for a lot of the round.

Round 5: 10-9 GRIFFIN
The first 2 minutes of the fight were giving the slight edge to Griffin. From 3:30 to 3:00 it was Rampage. From 3:00-1:40 was Griffin. The last 90 seconds were split for me. The last 45 seconds were all Rampage except for the last little burst from Griffin.

Winner: GRIFFIN 47-46

Rob
07-07-2008, 06:50 PM
10-7? Fuck right off.

James Steele
07-07-2008, 06:55 PM
Am I supposed to score it 10-9 just because he moved a little, or just because he is one of UFC's big draws?

Rob
07-07-2008, 07:04 PM
I don't think Silva would beat Griffin right now. I can see it being very similar to the Rua fight. People are still under rating Forrest Griffin. Man has big time skills now.

As for the fight Saturday, enough people are scoring round 2 10-8 that I'm not really gonna argue it now. Still disagree but whatever. Rampage only winning 1 round is insane talk though.

Future title shot. Here's my preferences in order:

1 - Jackson rematch.
2 - Evans vs. Liddell winner. Evans has enough wins now and is undefeated and if he beats Liddell, that's enough to warrant a title shot instantly.
3 - ABM

Anyone But Machida!!!

Dana White is saying that they will probably go with the rematch first. I'm fine with this. The lack of rematches has hurt guys before. Should go with whatever is hot and fuck promising people title matches.

Rob
07-07-2008, 07:05 PM
Am I supposed to score it 10-9 just because he moved a little, or just because he is one of UFC's big draws?

Was he on the verge of losing? No. 10-8 at a real stretch. 10-7 in your dreams pal.

James Steele
07-07-2008, 07:10 PM
Was he on the verge of losing? No. 10-8 at a real stretch. 10-7 in your dreams pal.

Rampage wasn't doing anything in that round, but trying to survive. He should get 8 points just because Forrest didn't go in for the kill?

Stickman
07-07-2008, 07:20 PM
10-8 yes, 10-7 no chance.

James Steele
07-07-2008, 07:26 PM
What about 10-7.5?
that is sarcasm before someones head explodes

James Steele
07-07-2008, 07:33 PM
I don't think Silva would beat Griffin right now. I can see it being very similar to the Rua fight. People are still under rating Forrest Griffin. Man has big time skills now.

As for the fight Saturday, enough people are scoring round 2 10-8 that I'm not really gonna argue it now. Still disagree but whatever. Rampage only winning 1 round is insane talk though.

Future title shot. Here's my preferences in order:

1 - Jackson rematch.
2 - Evans vs. Liddell winner. Evans has enough wins now and is undefeated and if he beats Liddell, that's enough to warrant a title shot instantly.
3 - ABM

Anyone But Machida!!!

Dana White is saying that they will probably go with the rematch first. I'm fine with this. The lack of rematches has hurt guys before. Should go with whatever is hot and fuck promising people title matches.


So, you are admitting that UFC will book what will draw more than a legitimate contender? Interesting, for a legitimate sport.

Rob
07-07-2008, 07:49 PM
When did I admit that?

And for the record, I do think that if contenders aren't exciting to watch then they shouldn't get title shots. Why the fuck would anyone want Lyoto Machida as their champion? His fights suck a dick and NOBODY wants to pay to watch him fight. Your champions and contenders need to be people your viewing people want to pay to watch. Whether you like that or not, that's the facts. Who was the last boring boxing champion that people paid to see?

Exactly the same as wrestling. You pay to see the stars.

James Steele
07-07-2008, 07:54 PM
When did I admit that?

And for the record, I do think that if contenders aren't exciting to watch then they shouldn't get title shots. Why the fuck would anyone want Lyoto Machida as their champion? His fights suck a dick and NOBODY wants to pay to watch him fight. Your champions and contenders need to be people your viewing people want to pay to watch. Whether you like that or not, that's the facts. Who was the last boring boxing champion that people paid to see?

Exactly the same as wrestling. You pay to see the stars.

Then it has no claim to being a legitimate sport. If the everything but the fight itself is full of bullshit...then it isn't legitimate. So you are saying that if there is an MMA fighter who kicks everybody's ass and is undefeated, but it is "boring" to the mass, he shouldn't get a title shot because he can't make money for Dana White?

No wonder UFC needed the rub of following WWE when it debuted TUF, because UFC is no fucking different than the UFC.

Rob
07-07-2008, 08:18 PM
Of course. And Machida isn't kicking everyone's arse. That's the point.

So boxing can't be a sport either right? Every single big fight in the history of the sport has been built up by hype. Machida has yet to beat a top 10 fighter anyway. Tito Ortiz was a borderline top 10 fighter really. And just about all the top 205lbs fighters don't want to fight Machida because he sucks a cock.

Crimson
07-07-2008, 11:07 PM
That's Rob's opinion only though..I would hate to see Machida as champ also..but if he keeps winning he'll get a title shot regardless. Unless of course all of a sudden Dana starts up shit with another contract dispute on purpose so he won't get a title shot lol.

Jura
07-08-2008, 02:45 AM
What event was Arlovski's most recent fight?

Jura
07-08-2008, 04:19 AM
Dave Meltzer chimes in about the scoring controversy:

http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news?slug=dm-ufcscoring070708&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Vastardikai
07-08-2008, 05:00 AM
I think the scoring system needs to be cleared up.

Rob
07-08-2008, 08:41 AM
That's Rob's opinion only though..I would hate to see Machida as champ also..but if he keeps winning he'll get a title shot regardless. Unless of course all of a sudden Dana starts up shit with another contract dispute on purpose so he won't get a title shot lol.

Might be my opinion but it's the way it is. Would you pay to see boring fights?

Kris P Lettus
07-08-2008, 01:12 PM
I think the scoring system needs to be cleared up.

The 10 point must system was good for boxing, it sucks for MMA..

Stickman
07-08-2008, 01:54 PM
Then it has no claim to being a legitimate sport. If the everything but the fight itself is full of bullshit...then it isn't legitimate. So you are saying that if there is an MMA fighter who kicks everybody's ass and is undefeated, but it is "boring" to the mass, he shouldn't get a title shot because he can't make money for Dana White?

No wonder UFC needed the rub of following WWE when it debuted TUF, because UFC is no fucking different than the UFC.

So Kimbo Slice headlining shows against cans is legit for the sport?

Reavant
07-08-2008, 03:25 PM
What event was Arlovski's most recent fight?
UFC 82... the same card as silva and henderson

The CyNick
07-08-2008, 06:15 PM
The Machida hype is so premature IMO. Like Rob said, he's only really beat Tito, and Tito isnt a top of the heap guy anymore.

I want to see him at least beat one of Liddell, Rua, Wand or Rampage BEFORE he gets a title shot.

He would be a nightmare as champion due to his style, but I dont think the UFC would deny him a shot when he earns it.

James Steele
07-08-2008, 06:39 PM
So Kimbo Slice headlining shows against cans is legit for the sport?

Whoever said that EliteXC was a legitimate company?

Stickman
07-08-2008, 07:39 PM
Whoever said that EliteXC was a legitimate company?

Too-shay

Danny Electric
07-08-2008, 09:05 PM
So I stayed up to watch the event and fell asleep in round 3 of the Griffin/Rampage fight.

From what I've seen of machida and that's only a few fights I have been impressed with him.

Rob
07-11-2008, 07:52 AM
If you have only seen the Soku and Ortiz fights, I'd disagree but I can understand this. Go watch the rest of his UFC fights and that will change your mind. Start with the David Heath fight. It was so bad that it didn't even air on the American showing.

Kris P Lettus
07-12-2008, 04:43 PM
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When did this start coming on?? What time etc?? Is it just an internet show??

Rob
07-12-2008, 06:10 PM
I absolutely can not grasp why certain states will not sanction MMA.

This show is good by the way. I've never seen it before but it needs to be posted here all the time.

Rob
07-12-2008, 06:13 PM
I'd totally put money on Sylvia at 3-1 too.

Kris P Lettus
07-12-2008, 06:18 PM
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07-12-2008, 06:19 PM
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Kris P Lettus
07-12-2008, 06:20 PM
That's everyone I've seen posted..

Haven't watched them all yet..

:y:

Rob
07-12-2008, 08:55 PM
I'll just stick with the new ones.

Reavant
07-12-2008, 09:52 PM
Great show

Jura
07-13-2008, 05:23 AM
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UFC: Ultimate Fight Night 14, Anderson Silva vs. James Irvin, Pearl at the Palms Theater, Las Vegas, Spike TV.
Affliction: Tim Sylvia vs. Fedor Emelianenko, Honda Center, Anaheim, Calif., Fox Sports Net/PPV.
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Elite XC: Robbie Lawler vs. Scott Smith, Stockton Arena, Stockton, Calif., CBS.

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WEC: Three title matches, Hard Rock Hotel, Las Vegas, Versus.

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UFC 87: Georges St. Pierre vs. Jon Fitch, Target Center, Minneapolis, PPV.

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UFC 88: Chuck Liddell vs. Rashad Evans, Phillips Arena, Atlanta.

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WEC: Urijah Faber vs. Mike Brown, Versus, venue TBD

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UFC: Ultimate Fight Night 15, main event TBD, Civic Auditorium, Omaha, Neb.

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Strikeforce: Playboy Mansion, Beverly Hills, Calif., main event, TV TBD.
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RP
07-13-2008, 08:10 AM
I really want to see this Silva thing backfire for Dana White. Ofcourse, theres no way that'll happen cause i'm sure James Irvin will be payed to walk into one. But still, i'd like to see him knock Silva out on live television just so to punk Dana for trying to steal Afflictions thunder and risking his #1 guy like this for nothing. But we all know Irvin is gunna get paid enough money not to win so its a mute point.

RP
07-13-2008, 08:12 AM
I'd totally put money on Sylvia at 3-1 too.

To win or to lay on his back and hold Fedors head into his chest the whole fight?

Fedor will win. I dont think Sylvia will mount much offense, but i think he'll give enough defense to make this a boring fight.

Rob
07-13-2008, 08:33 AM
I think people are seriously under estimating Tim Sylvia. Obviously Fedor is Fedor but it ain't like Sylvia doesn't have a wicked record. Ben Rothwell, Jason Lambert, Andre Arlovski, Cabbage, Ricco Rodriguez, Jeff Monson and Brandon Vera aren't exactly chumps. He is an underdog for sure but with his size and knock out power, you can't rule him out. Fedor also hasn't fought a top heavyweight in 3 years and even then people debate just how good Mirko Cro Cop really ever was.

I'd tip Fedor still but 3-1 in a 1 on 1 fight are good odds.

Reavant
07-13-2008, 11:34 AM
I think I see the fight going down like the Sylvia-nogiera fight. Except maybe a little faster.

Kris P Lettus
07-13-2008, 11:36 AM
I'd like to see it go down like Sylvia/Couture..

RP
07-13-2008, 02:22 PM
I think people are seriously under estimating Tim Sylvia. Obviously Fedor is Fedor but it ain't like Sylvia doesn't have a wicked record. Ben Rothwell, Jason Lambert, Andre Arlovski, Cabbage, Ricco Rodriguez, Jeff Monson and Brandon Vera aren't exactly chumps. He is an underdog for sure but with his size and knock out power, you can't rule him out. Fedor also hasn't fought a top heavyweight in 3 years and even then people debate just how good Mirko Cro Cop really ever was.

I'd tip Fedor still but 3-1 in a 1 on 1 fight are good odds.

Oh comon thats BS and you know it. Cro Crop was one of the best Heavyweights and the most feared striker in the world when Fedor faced him. Dont act like he wasnt now that he's lost a few. Thats bs.

Rob
07-13-2008, 04:32 PM
People do debate it. I never said I did.

And for the record, aside from Josh Barnett, what top 5 heavyweights has he beaten? That's the argument from the Cro Cop doubters.

Rob
07-13-2008, 04:33 PM
I'd like to see it go down like Sylvia/Couture..

Seriously, aside from the hype and the first 1 minute of that fight, it sucked. I'd hate to see Fedor and Tim go 5 rounds like that.

Reavant
07-13-2008, 04:40 PM
Its only going to be a three round fight

Reavant
07-13-2008, 04:41 PM
and my fight might have to be moved back until august 15th.... because i have fucking turf toe... I mean like WTF!

Rob
07-13-2008, 08:32 PM
Its only going to be a three round fight

Title fights are 5 rounds though.

Reavant
07-13-2008, 11:50 PM
not for the WAMMA belt apparently... I just watched the most recent interview of sylvia on sherdog and he said it was a three rounder but maybe hes retarded... entirely possible.

Reavant
07-13-2008, 11:52 PM
And Andrei is going to anally rape Rothwell

The CyNick
07-14-2008, 12:55 PM
I really want to see this Silva thing backfire for Dana White. Ofcourse, theres no way that'll happen cause i'm sure James Irvin will be payed to walk into one. But still, i'd like to see him knock Silva out on live television just so to punk Dana for trying to steal Afflictions thunder and risking his #1 guy like this for nothing. But we all know Irvin is gunna get paid enough money not to win so its a mute point.

Yeah I'm sure Irvin will be paid off. You sir are a logical thinker.

Silva is not their "#1 guy", if he was, he wouldnt be fighting for free on a throw together card. He may be the best fighter in the world, but he's probably not even top 5 for the UFC in terms of drawing money (which is what matters).

If Irvin wins, then Irvin becomes a big star because he beat a guy who was supposed to be unstoppable. And then he'll be put in there with the upper level guys at 205.

The CyNick
07-14-2008, 01:00 PM
When Fedor was actually proving he was a dominant champion, Matt Hughes was clearly the best 170lb fighter in the world. A lot can change in MMA in a short period of time.

Fedor may not be able to hang with the top guys anymore.

Personally I think he will catch Tim in a sub, but I dont think its out of the realm of possibility to say Sylvia can knock him out.

Of course that would be the worst thing for Affliction, because it would ruin money matches with Fedor down the road. Maybe they should pay off Tim.....

Reavant
07-14-2008, 01:05 PM
I still think theres some behind the scenes things going on with Dana white and sylvia to try and fuck up the coture-fedor fight. If Sylvia beats fedor, I see him back in the UFC being paid twice what he was making before.

Rob
07-14-2008, 01:46 PM
He is making more than twice he made in the UFC now with Affliction. Sylvia wanted $1 million a fight and Dana White laughed at him since he couldn't draw flies with two handfuls of shit.

If he comes back, it won't be for that money. I don't see him coming back anyway.

Kris P Lettus
07-14-2008, 02:32 PM
I hope he stays gone..

But, on the same note, they really need to do something with the HW division.. There has to be some quality fighters out there who could revamp the big boy division..

Reavant
07-14-2008, 10:36 PM
It is a five round fight.... sylvia is just retarded.

Rob
07-15-2008, 12:10 AM
I hope he stays gone..

But, on the same note, they really need to do something with the HW division.. There has to be some quality fighters out there who could revamp the big boy division..

They just signed 3 big hopes in the last few months. Cain Velasquez, Shane Carwin and Brock Lesnar.

Destor
07-15-2008, 12:15 AM
How well did that Lesnar fight draw? Anyone know?

Rob
07-15-2008, 12:18 AM
Yeah it drew well. I'll find a number in a minute.

Rob
07-15-2008, 12:22 AM
650,000 and just shy of 2.5 million bucks at the gate.

Destor
07-15-2008, 12:23 AM
Damn it. That's huge. Yeah, if his second fight can draw anywhere near that he's gonna be around for a long time. (Provided he can make it out of the first round.)

Impact!
07-15-2008, 05:33 AM
Shane Carwin has a load of potential for UFC

Reavant
07-15-2008, 11:18 AM
Shane has some huge power, but he admittedly has a poor ground game

Rob
07-15-2008, 08:17 PM
Rampage just been arrested.



http://www.dailypilot.com/articles/2008/07/15/publicsafety/dpt-pursuit071608.txt

Driver hits at least three cars during chase that begins on 55 freeway and ends with arrest on Balboa Peninsula.

By Joseph Serna
Updated: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 3:24 PM PDT
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Quinton "Rampage" Jackson, former light heavyweight champion of the Ultimate Fighter Championships, was arrested on suspicion of felony evading, hit-and-run and reckless driving Tuesday after he allegedly led police on a pursuit from Costa Mesa to Newport Beach, police said.

Jackson, the driver of a lifted, gray pick-up truck left crashed cars, shredded tires and sparks in his wake this afternoon when he led police on a short pursuit from the southbound 55 freeway exit onto Newport Boulevard where he hit at least three cars, police said.

The driver hit two cars at 19th Street and Newport Boulevard, then drove away at about 1:13 p.m., Lt. Paul Dondero said. A Costa Mesa police officer saw the driver southbound approaching 17th Street and tried to pull him over, police said. There, he hit at least one more car before continuing to run, now heading south toward the Balboa Peninsula, Dondero said. Some time after that, the truck blew a tire but continued to drive on its rims, Dondero said.

Jackson eventually gave up, pulled over and was arrested, police said. The whole chase lasted about five minutes, Dondero said.

HeartBreakMan2k
07-15-2008, 08:56 PM
Yeah just read that, holy shit.

McLegend
07-15-2008, 09:02 PM
That wasn't very smart.

Jura
07-15-2008, 09:12 PM
<font color="#0080FF" face="Arial" Size="2">
RAMPAGE JUST WENT ON A RAMPAGE!!</font>

Reavant
07-15-2008, 09:48 PM
KIIIIIIIIIIIIILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL FRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEENNNNNZZZZZZZYYYYYYY

Rob
07-15-2008, 10:25 PM
Nobody was hurt apparently.

Reavant
07-15-2008, 10:31 PM
the pics on TMZ are funny

Reavant
07-15-2008, 10:32 PM
LOL@ him driving a car with his picture on it

Impact!
07-16-2008, 05:46 AM
Holy shit...guess no rematch with Forrest then

Jura
07-16-2008, 06:00 AM
I just watched EliteXC Cage Rage 27 and here's what happened:

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lol What a poor sport. He's probably angry that his boy got knocked out so quick.

Rob
07-16-2008, 07:47 AM
Holy shit...guess no rematch with Forrest then

Don't be so sure.

Innovator
07-16-2008, 11:10 AM
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RP
07-16-2008, 12:06 PM
Rampage just been arrested.



http://www.dailypilot.com/articles/2008/07/15/publicsafety/dpt-pursuit071608.txt

Driver hits at least three cars during chase that begins on 55 freeway and ends with arrest on Balboa Peninsula.

By Joseph Serna
Updated: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 3:24 PM PDT
There are No comments posted. View Comments

Quinton "Rampage" Jackson, former light heavyweight champion of the Ultimate Fighter Championships, was arrested on suspicion of felony evading, hit-and-run and reckless driving Tuesday after he allegedly led police on a pursuit from Costa Mesa to Newport Beach, police said.

Jackson, the driver of a lifted, gray pick-up truck left crashed cars, shredded tires and sparks in his wake this afternoon when he led police on a short pursuit from the southbound 55 freeway exit onto Newport Boulevard where he hit at least three cars, police said.

The driver hit two cars at 19th Street and Newport Boulevard, then drove away at about 1:13 p.m., Lt. Paul Dondero said. A Costa Mesa police officer saw the driver southbound approaching 17th Street and tried to pull him over, police said. There, he hit at least one more car before continuing to run, now heading south toward the Balboa Peninsula, Dondero said. Some time after that, the truck blew a tire but continued to drive on its rims, Dondero said.

Jackson eventually gave up, pulled over and was arrested, police said. The whole chase lasted about five minutes, Dondero said.


BUT HE SO FUNNY!!!!

Kris P Lettus
07-16-2008, 12:51 PM
Silly black people..

McLegend
07-16-2008, 01:38 PM
It's all Forrest's fault.

The CyNick
07-16-2008, 04:29 PM
Not sure the differences with the laws there, but I dont think he'll get jail time for this. Even though its friggin crazy. Interested to hear what his explanation is for all this.

Kris P Lettus
07-16-2008, 05:16 PM
He'll prolly get hit and run and obstruction or misdemeanor evading..

Fines, community service, and probation at the most..

Impact!
07-17-2008, 12:24 AM
Bit random, but does anyone know the name of the song that was used in Rampage Jacksons hype video from the Final conflict 2003 ppv (for his fight with Chuck)?

Super V
07-17-2008, 01:07 AM
I just watched EliteXC Cage Rage 27 and here's what happened:

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lol What a poor sport. He's probably angry that his boy got knocked out so quick.

The most astonishing thing there is that Phil Baroni finally broke that losing streak. I thought he was gonna retire after that last fight I saw him in.

Kris P Lettus
07-17-2008, 01:18 AM
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/stadium.weblogsinc.com/tmz/images/2008/07/_0003_Layer-1-copy-8_full.jpg

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/stadium.weblogsinc.com/tmz/images/2008/07/_0002_Layer-1-copy-7_full.jpg

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/stadium.weblogsinc.com/tmz/images/2008/07/2_3_full.jpg

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/stadium.weblogsinc.com/tmz/images/2008/07/0715_rampage_02_full.jpg

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/stadium.weblogsinc.com/tmz/images/2008/07/0715_rampage_01_full.jpg

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/stadium.weblogsinc.com/tmz/images/2008/07/0715_rampage_03_full.jpg

:(

Kris P Lettus
07-17-2008, 01:18 AM
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/stadium.weblogsinc.com/tmz/images/2008/07/2_3_full.jpg

LOL

It looks like they are trying to arrest the decal..

:(

Reavant
07-17-2008, 01:37 AM
:rofl:

Jura
07-17-2008, 04:59 AM
RAMPAGE IS SO FEARED THAT EVEN HIS LIFE-LIKE DECAL SCARES PEOPLE.

Fabien Barthez
07-17-2008, 08:59 AM
Those Rampage pictures are amazing. I'd love anyone who tries to evade the police in a 2.5tonne truck with their face all over it.

Not to mention, the only reason it stopped where it did, was because his tyre, from the company who sponsor him, and also have their name on the truck blew out. Good story!

I have been out of the loop for the last 3/4 weeks with not being home and such so I need a few questions answering if possible...

1, When did Setanta get all the exclusive rights to UFC here? and what is Bravo left with?

2, Is there anywhere I can watch Rampage/Forrest streamed? I will have to download it when I get home from Malta on Saturday if not, but I have a really free afternoon ahead of me, and it would be nice to watch it.

3, Is there any way I can watch the Affliction show Live in England? That is some fucking card...

Danny Electric
07-17-2008, 11:59 AM
Setanta has always shown the UK events live, but the last event was the first one to be shown live from the USA, I am not sure what Bravo has now but I have Setanta so it's all good.

Reavant
07-17-2008, 07:04 PM
Rampage is in the mental hospital now

Reavant
07-17-2008, 09:59 PM
HOLY SHIT.... watch the end of this video it is absolutly hilarious

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Reavant
07-17-2008, 10:00 PM
:-\

http://mmarated.com/users/video/163/615.html

Jura
07-17-2008, 10:23 PM
Silvia, tell me how my pee-pee taste?

Cactus Sid
07-18-2008, 07:04 AM
1, When did Setanta get all the exclusive rights to UFC here? and what is Bravo left with?

3, Is there any way I can watch the Affliction show Live in England? That is some fucking card...

They've officially started doing all the shows since UFC 86, but they've been doing the UK shows. Bravo still has occasional UFC unleashed shows and what have you, and Bravo are gonna show the Affliction show on Sunday night.

Cactus Sid
07-18-2008, 07:20 AM
Scratch that, apparently the Affliction show isn't on Bravo on Sunday anymore....

Fabien Barthez
07-18-2008, 09:06 AM
I nearly repped you for telling me that in your first post..




Then I decided against it with the following.
Fuck Setanta. I can usually download the PPV's and be watching them Sunday night, as I'm used to with Bravo anyway.

I watched Rampage Griffin yesterday. I had rampage win 1, 3 and maybe 5. round 2 was 10-8 for sure. So draw In my eyes. The judges scoring was bullshit though. Although, if you were to judge the fight overall, Forrest won for sure.

Fabien Barthez
07-18-2008, 09:06 AM
I nearly repped you for telling me that in your first post..




Then I decided against it with the following.
Fuck Setanta. I can usually download the PPV's and be watching them Sunday night, as I'm used to with Bravo anyway.

I watched Rampage Griffin yesterday. I had rampage win 1, 3 and maybe 5. round 2 was 10-8 for sure. So draw In my eyes. The judges scoring was bullshit though. Although, if you were to judge the fight overall, Forrest won for sure.