MMA Thread

[Crimson]

I'm liking the may ppv..Ortiz/Machida, Sherk/Penn..Evans/Silva

[Reavant]

yea thats a great card

[Rob]

jesus christ Shogun/Iceman for june kjcxhcjchejc!!kel

I'll be there and the Vegas show in May :D

[Blue Demon]

I'm hoping to get tickets to the show in Montreal :cool:

[Innovator]

Montreal gets an amazing card and the east coast get Rashad vs. Bisping....ugh

CMON PASS IN NEW YORK

[Rob]

Get over it.

[Innovator]

Eventually, heard UFC will get in New York around 2009

[Reavant]

illinois gets fully santioned in july... im sure theres a chicago ppv pretty soon after

[Rob]

Should be a hot crowd there.

[Jura]

I found out how much the guys in UFC 81 were getting paid:

<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td class="yspsctnhdln"> UFC 81 Fighters Salaries
</td> </tr> <tr> <td height="7"><spacer type="block" height="1" width="1"></td> </tr> </tbody></table> Dann Stupp, MMAjunkie.com
February 4, 2008 Despite suffering a first-round submission loss to Frank Mir on Saturday, Brock Lesnar collected a cool quarter-of-a-million dollars in his UFC debut.

The former NCAA Division I national wrestling champion and World Wrestling Entertainment performer was the highest-paid fighter at UFC 81, according to paperwork acquired by MMAjunkie.com (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=AhLcUxV42fvXKl64VjwjrLqtEo14/SIG=10quqj7e7/**http%3A//mmajunkie.com/) (www.mmajunkie.com) from the Nevada State Athletic Commission.






UFC 81 took place at the Mandalay Bay Events Center in Las Vegas and aired live on pay-per-view.

Mir earned a base salary of $80,00 for the fight -- which was the fourth-highest behind Lesnar and main-event fighters Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira ($200,000) and Tim Sylvia ($100,000).

The total disclosed payroll for the event was $892,000.

The full list of salaries included:


Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira ($200,000) def. Tim Sylvia ($100,000)
Frank Mir ($80,000) def. Brock Lesnar ($250,000)
Nate Marquardt ($52,000) def. Jeremy Horn ($25,000)
Ricardo Almeida ($40,000) def. Rob Yundt ($5,000)
Tyson Griffin ($36,000) def. Gleison Tibau ($11,000)
Chris Lytle ($24,000) def. Kyle Bradley ($4,O00)
Tim Boetsch ($12,000) def. David Heath ($6,000)
Marvin Eastman ($14,000) def. Terry Martin ($12,000)
Rob Emerson ($16,000) def. Keita Nakamura ($5,000) All the winning fighters received pay that awarded 50 percent "to show" and 50 percent as a "win bonus" -- except for Lesnar, who would have earned a $200,000 win bonus.

Now, the usual disclaimer: the figures do not include deductions for items such as insurance, licenses and taxes. Additionally, the figures do not include money paid by sponsors, which can oftentimes be a substantial portion of a fighter's income. They also do not include any other "locker-room" or special bonuses the UFC oftentimes pays.

In other words, these are simply base salaries reported to the NSAC and do not represent the total amounts earned by each fighter.

For complete coverage of the event, including the list of winners for fight-night bonuses (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=AtuOVnD6B86GyoYImD2cx8GtEo14/SIG=1395ptf7m/**http%3A//mmajunkie.com/2008/02/03/nogueira-sylvia-lytle-and-mir-earn-60000-ufc-81-fight-night-bonuses/), be sure to check out MMAjunkie.com's UFC 81 archives (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=Al1sPsOYfZoP_Ltbk2ow8AmtEo14/SIG=11aj900gi/**http%3A//mmajunkie.com/category/ufc-81/).

And here's the Mazzagatti interview: http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news?slug=mmajunkie-Mazzagatti_Interview_Mir&prov=mmajunkie&type=lgns

[Rob]

Seriously, one man got more than 1/4 of the total salary. This is insane.

[Kris P Lettus]

But, he is a huge draw to alot of people who aren't already fans of the UFC.. It'd be like Floyd Mayweather fighting at a PPV (and getting slaughter)..

[Rob]

Lesnar was unproven draw though.

[Kris P Lettus]

As would any proffesional athlete who is not an MMA fighter.. I mean, Kimbo fought Ray Mercer, who was like 44 at the time, and Mercer prolly made better money than all the other fighters on the card.. That ex-NFL WR (can't remember who it was ATM) fought and got destroyed, but I bet he banked on that one fight just because of namesake alone..

:-\

[Innovator]

Johnny Morton....85 seconds

[Reavant]

Andrei is going to destroy Jake Obrien... heard it here first haha

[Kris P Lettus]

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Kimbo is gonna destroy Tank in the first minute..

I'd put $100 on it..

[Kris P Lettus]

Urijah Faber is the motherfucking truth..

I wish UFC had a FeatherWeight division..

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Mirko Filipovic is leaving the UFC and joining a new MMA Promotion by the owner's of K1.

http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/12/mirko-cro-cop-will-announce-his-arrival-to-k-1-tomorrow/

[Kris P Lettus]

Great..

He'll prolly be overhyped and quite disapointing there also..

[Rob]

Saw him fight twice live and twice he got humbled. I'm surprised he even still has marquee value.

[RP]

wait...dont he still have fights left on his contract?

[RP]

So UFC released him out of his contract...ok. That dont make sense. Even tho he's lost twice in a row, he's still a bigger draw then basically everyone in the Heavyweight division aside from Nog. They're sure as hell not resigning Arvolski. Its almost like they want to phase the Heavyweight division out.

[Kris P Lettus]

WTF

No way.. Not with Silvia, Lesnar, Mir, Gonzaga, etc etc etc..

[RP]

You mean, Boring, Unproven, Washed Up and Overated?

[RP]

Oh ya, and none of those guys can draw like Mirko. Maybe Lesnar, but only because of his WWE bs.

[Kris P Lettus]

Kimbo will be the Savior..

[Rob]

Oh ya, and none of those guys can draw like Mirko. Maybe Lesnar, but only because of his WWE bs.

Get your head out the clouds dude. Nobody in the States knows who the fuck Mirko Cro Cop is and when they saw the hype, he got totally humbled by Gonzaga. With his own finish I might add. And then Kongo bullied him for 3 rounds in London. He did nothing to deserve his contract. Should just retire and be done. His 3 fights didn't draw. Sorry they didn't.

[RP]

Get your head out the clouds dude. Nobody in the States knows who the fuck Mirko Cro Cop is and when they saw the hype, he got totally humbled by Gonzaga. With his own finish I might add. And then Kongo bullied him for 3 rounds in London. He did nothing to deserve his contract. Should just retire and be done. His 3 fights didn't draw. Sorry they didn't.

Name me 3 Heavyweights that draw more then Cro Crop currently.

[Kris P Lettus]

Fedor, Couture, Lesnar

[RP]

Fedor, Coutore, Lesnar

I was talking UFC obviously. Suprised you didnt realize that ( no i'm not ). Couture is retired and wont fight in UFC. Fedor isnt in UFC and you can say Lesnar, but lets be honest. He's only drawing because of his fake fighting.

I'm talking about current Heavyweights. Think of it like this. Say UFC has a main even with an opponent ( just random ) like Jeff Munson. Who draw more attention to that fight, Frank Mir, Kongo, Gonzaga, Sylvia, or Cro Crop?

[Kris P Lettus]

Mir ATM TBH

[RP]

You think Mir would draw more then Cro Crop in a fight against an average opponent? I disagree, but ok.

[Kris P Lettus]

Mir is much closer to a title fight and is on a two fight win streak (one against a uber hyped future HWC) while Cro Cop is on a two fight losing streak and is pretty much out the door..

You gotta think, prolly like 80% of American MMA fans have never seen PRIDE..

[RP]

Nah, i dont agree with the 80% thing. Cro Crop was one of the most recognizable in the sport in 2006. I dont disagree with Mir being closer to a title fight. I'm not saying anything about that. Obviously Cro Crop isnt close to a title fight cause he's not in UFC anymore. My point was, why release a guy thats a top 3 draw in your weakest division. Its not like they have better.

[Innovator]

Busty "The Bust" McBusterson

[Kris P Lettus]

Look, Cro Cop was supposed to be the "Savior" of the heavy weight division, but he wasn't.. UFC has never had a great Heavy Weight division, ever.. They've had some great fighters here or there but LHW was always the marquee division..

It's not that big of a deal that he is leaving TBH.. Couture leaving was much more devastating IMO..

[Rob]

Name me 3 Heavyweights that draw more then Cro Crop currently.

What does this prove? Only that UFC has heavyweights that don't draw. Sylvia and Lesnar are far bigger draws for a start. I'd argue Mir and Nog as well. The US fans now know Big Nog as the champ. That's more of a pull for a new star than anything Cro Cop did.

I would have loved Cro Cop to have been a huge star in the UFC but he blew it. Not anyone else. UFC pushed him like a superstar and he got fucked. He didn't even start training in a cage or using elbows on the floor until his third fight. HIS OWN FAULT.

[RP]

Sylvia is not a bigger draw. Everyone boo's him cause he so boring. No one is buying a PPV to watch Sylvia fight.

[Kris P Lettus]

Sylvia is not a bigger draw. Everyone boo's him cause he so boring. No one is buying a PPV to watch Sylvia fight.

That's right, people buy PPVs to watch Liddell, Rampage, Anderson Silva, GSP, etc etc etc..

Just as Rob said, I would have loved Cro Cop to come in a dominate but he didn't.. He didn't kill the weak division, just didn't save it..

[Rob]

Sylvia is not a bigger draw. Everyone boo's him cause he so boring. No one is buying a PPV to watch Sylvia fight.

Really? How come the shows he main events sell out and do better numbers on PPV than Cro Cop then? They didn't have faith to even put Cro Cop on PPV! One time! That was it. He main evented a free show and was KO'd and was mid card on a free show and was humbled!

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Supposedly the new promotion Mirko signed with (Dream) has signed a talent sharing deal with M-1. M-1 has Royce and Fedor signed. Rumor is the innagural DREAM show will be Mirko vs Fedor for the world title.

Fedor is an idiot if he takes this fight, it's a no win for him. If he stomps Mirko so what - Gonzaga did it. If he struggles... fuck, even Kongo stomped him.

[Rob]

Cro Crap is a joker saying he didn't run from UFC and doesn't like the cage.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

I agree whole heartedly. Cro Crop is running from the UFC, he doesn't like the cage cause he doesn't train for it, and he SHOULD be running from the UFC.

[Reavant]

no he trains for a cage... but the cage and the north american rules are not good for a fighter like cro cop

[HeartBreakMan2k]

He didn't start training with a cage until his last match is the information I had. That and he hates elbows.

[Stickman]

Cro Cop was not really a draw in the States just like Fedor would not be.

[Reavant]

He didn't start training with a cage until his last match is the information I had. That and he hates elbows.

he started training in a cage after his match with gonzaga... and he didnt start even training for the north american rules until that time too which the main difference basically is the use of elbows.

[Reavant]

Cro Cop was not really a draw in the States just like Fedor would not be.

it would depend who fedor fought. if fedor were to fight randy in the ufc, it would probably be the biggest ppv they ever had. now that may be because of randy, but the ufc would also hype it like they did with rampage and liddell. By the time the ppv came everyone would know who fedor was and if he were to beat randy he would instantly be a draw. now if he were to fight anyone else in the division no one who is a casual fan would pay to see him.

[Reavant]

King Kimbo kills tank

[Kris P Lettus]

Anyone got a link to a video of that fight??

[owenbrown]

Anyone got a link to a video of that fight??

http://youtube.com/watch?v=5H6C8DEaIO8

:cool:

[Jura]

I think Kimbo's beard absorbs the punches. It's like Sampson and his hair. I bet you if you shave it off then you can knock him out.

:shifty:

[Stickman]

I want to see Kimbo fight somebody decent.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

I'm sorry, if Kimbo were to fight a decent takedown artist I can't see him doing well. Kimbo has fought a bunch of washed up bums, no one important enough for me to think he has a ton of real talent.

Yes, I said Tank was a bum - deal with it.

[Kris P Lettus]

I'm sorry, if Kimbo were to fight a decent takedown artist I can't see him doing well. Kimbo has fought a bunch of washed up bums, no one important enough for me to think he has a ton of real talent.

Yes, I said Tank was a bum - deal with it.

His non MMA fights proved he has talent..

He will beat some good fighters in the next year.. Bas Rutten wouldn't be fucking with him if he wasn't good..

I am hype about Anderson Silva vs Dan Henderson

Also, there is a live WEC event free on VS. on like March 26..

Urijah Faber :love:

[HeartBreakMan2k]

He also got beat by a scrub MMA fighter in a street fight because the guy broke out some Jits (including a standing guillotine). I'm not saying he doesn't have talent, I just don't think he can hang with a strong wrestler or a good jits guy. And I've seen list where people have him cracking top 15 and 20 in the world? Are people seriously that delusional?

I hope Dan Hendo wins, though I still think Anderson is amazing. WEC puts on some of the best shows period.

[Reavant]

kimbo has good movement and a ton of punching power but thats all he has shown as of yet and based off of that he would not beat very many successful hwt fighters.

[Innovator]

I can't wait for Silva vs. Hendo

[Reavant]

if anyone can beat silva its hendo.... if silva beats hendo tho i dot see anyone beating him for the next couple years

[Kris P Lettus]

He also got beat by a scrub MMA fighter in a street fight because the guy broke out some Jits (including a standing guillotine). I'm not saying he doesn't have talent, I just don't think he can hang with a strong wrestler or a good jits guy. And I've seen list where people have him cracking top 15 and 20 in the world? Are people seriously that delusional.

He fought Gannon a few years ago and it was by far his worst fight.. But that was before he was actually training to fight, let alone training for MMA with El Guapo..

I'm not saying he's gonna be of of the best of all time or that he won't get beat, but I think he'll put on some awesome matches and KO a bunch of guys in the next few years..

[Rob]

if anyone can beat silva its hendo.... if silva beats hendo tho i dot see anyone beating him for the next couple years

I agree but I also thought the same about GSP and then Matt Serra knocked him the fuck out.

[Reavant]

I agree but I also thought the same about GSP and then Matt Serra knocked him the fuck out.

well yea theres always a chance of a freak occurance... i meant a dominating performance or at least a one sided performance by either fighter

[Reavant]

He fought Gannon a few years ago and it was by far his worst fight.. But that was before he was actually training to fight, let alone training for MMA with El Guapo..

I'm not saying he's gonna be of of the best of all time or that he won't get beat, but I think he'll put on some awesome matches and KO a bunch of guys in the next few years..

just wait till andrei comes over to elite xc and knocks him the fuck out!!!

[Rob]

Arlovski and Kimbo is so bad a mis match they should never allow it.

[Kris P Lettus]

I just saw a guy fighting in IFL that weighed 266lbs.. Is the 265 weight limit just for Nevada??

[McLegend]

for non title matches you are allowed to be 1 pound over

[Rob]

Cro Cop is saying he'll do 3 fights in Japan and then back to the UFC. :lol: That Gonzaga kick did more damage than thought.

[Kris P Lettus]

Dangerous Dan Henderson is on Rome is Burning right now on ESPN..

[Rob]

Can't wait for this fight.

[Kris P Lettus]

It was a good interview.. He talked about how MMA wasn't supposed to be his career but was just something to make money after his olympic appearance, how he feels more comfortable at 185lbs, the transition for ring to cage, how well UFC treats it's guys, and that Wanderlei and Rampage were the two hardest hitters he's fought.. He is mad humble and seems like a really good guy.. He laughed off Rome when talking about guys who hit hard b/c Henderson supposedly has a tough jaw.. He said he's just been lucky and works on not getting hit on "the spot"..

He is the man..

[Rob]

I'm officially tipping him to beat Silva. I've been going back and forth and really have no idea who is gonna win but I gotta back someone in my prediction stakes and I can't see Silva bullying Henderson like he has for others.

[Crimson]

Jardine/Wandy added to that already stacked May ppv.

[Kris P Lettus]

I hope Jardine destroys his face..

[weather vane]

GSP is a homo

[Reavant]

I hope Jardine destroys his face..
not gonna happen
GSP is a homo

ur a homo

[weather vane]

I hope he dies in a plane crash.

[Rob]

I hope you die in a plane crash.

[weather vane]

well that's not very nice

[Rob]

Sorry I thought it was the game.

[Kris P Lettus]

Man Rob, you were way out of line..

[McLegend]

--MMAjunkie.com has a report that CBS and Elite XC have reached an agreement for live prime time shows. The story said the shows would take place every other month. That is the deal UFC had been working on for months and may represent the most important MMA news since UFC got on Spike TV three years ago. While not in the story, the show is expected to be on Saturday nights.


So now the real question... How the fuck does UFC not get that deal done?

Seriosuly now.

[Innovator]

UFC Countdown on Spike....I'm so ready for this fight

[Innovator]

Also, LETS GO HERRING

[Kris P Lettus]

UFC doesn't need it TBH..

I mean, it'd be awesome, but I bet you a million dollars that CBS tries to gay it up and hires like Marv Albert to commentate or some shit..

Spike should just do live weekly events..

[McLegend]

Well Mart Albert is great, but doesn't work for CBS. So maybe they could get Gus Johnson to do it, which would be the greatest thing ever.

You will get a bigger audience which in theory would increase PPV revenue for the future. I think it's a mistake they didn't get it done.

[Innovator]

Fights announced for May UFC card:

BJ Penn vs. Sean Sherk

Keith Jardine vs. Wanderlei Silva

Tito "please don't make me fight I wanna do the apprentice!" Ortiz vs. Machida

[Rob]

Man Rob, you were way out of line..

Why?

[HeartBreakMan2k]

I think I've finally settled on my prediction for Hendo/Silva - Going with Hendo in the third.

[Reavant]

MAIN CARD

Champ Anderson Silva vs. Dan Henderson--I pick Hendo by a big right after a spinning backfist
Heath Herring vs. Cheick Kongo -- I have visions of herring curling up into a ball as he is getting beaten
Chris Leben vs. Alessio Sakara-- The only reason this fight is on the main card is because Andrei wouldnt resign when Dana flew out to chicago 2 weeks ago to give him a contract... ill go leban what the hell
Yushin Okami vs. Evan -- I want tanner but ill go Okami
Jon Fitch vs. Chris Wilson --Fitch
PRELIMINARY CARD

Andrei Arlovski vs. Jake O’Brien -- Andrei
Luke Cummo vs. Luigi Fioravanti -- Im too lazy too look them up Ill go Luigi
Dustin Hazelett vs. Josh Koscheck -- Koz
David Bielkheden vs. Diego Sanchez -- Diego
Jorge Gurgel vs. John Halverson -- Again too lazy umm Gurgel

[Crimson]

Card doesn't look too strong...but the main event is sweet. I can't see Silva losing so i'll take him. As long as the rest are good fights I don't care who wins.

[Kris P Lettus]

Why?

Sarcasm..

[RP]

i just ordered tonights ppv

I'm not ruling out Dan Henderson yet. He's got the right tools to possibly beat Silva. If Silva knocks Henderson out though, no one will ever beat Silva. I cant imagine Silva knocking Hendo out. Hendo has one of the toughest chins in the world. What an interesting fight. I cant wait.

[Kris P Lettus]

I like both fighters but am def pulling for Henderson..

[Stinkfist]

Kongo shouldnt get a title shot if he wins this

[Kris P Lettus]

I have a small request from one of you fine chaps..

Could someone PM me a link to the Henderson/Silva fight sometime after it happens??

I'm really looking forward to it, but have to work and I'd like to see it unspoiled..

Rep for life to anyone who helps me out..

[RP]

tvsitcoms.com usually has it up within 24 hours after

[Rob]

For some reason, I've got the feeling Silva will take this now and had it not been too late to change my prediction, I probably would have.

[Danny Electric]

There's some strong fighters on that Undercard.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Well... I guess it doesn't get easier to be Brock Lesnar.

[Innovator]

Poor Tanner, eats a knee from Okami

[road doggy dogg]

Next UFC event, I predict crossrine in the 4th round.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Spoiler in black: Anderson Silva will never lose... ever. Not after tonight.

[Blitz]

Silva was tremendous that 2nd round. Like he just got fed up after Henderson took the first and just decided to end him.

Also I :heart: Yushin Okami.

[Rob]

For some reason, I've got the feeling Silva will take this now and had it not been too late to change my prediction, I probably would have.

Damn!

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Everyone is going to laugh when I say this, but Matt Lindland is the last person who may have a shot without them doing a catch weight match with GSP. Henderson showed me that someone can take Anderson down and lay on him, Lindland is Dan's wrestling coach and I don't think he'd even think about standing and banging with Silva.

It would be a boring ass fight but I think Lindland could win with charge in, take down and just lay on top for 5 minutes; repeat. It would be a long shot, but it's the last possibility I can see and even then I think Anderson destroys him.

[RP]

I've long said Matt Lindland is one of the top 10 fighters in the world. But honestly, seeing Silva flip the switch in that second round last night was unreal. It was like Hendo was on his level and then Silva jumped up 2 more levels.


BTW Chris Leben is a sick sick man. And he's becoming one of my favorite fighters. Because thats just it. He's a fucking fighter. Dude is sick. I didnt think he'd win last night.

[RP]

Yushin Okami is such an interesting fighter. I thought he really fought nicely against Franklin, but he lost a decision and it kinda derailed him a bit. Now he's beaten McDonald and Tanner . I think he'll probably be Silva's next fight. And Okami wont win, but he'll make it pretty interesting. He's a definate dark horse. I kinda love him too.

[Rob]

Everyone is going to laugh when I say this, but Matt Lindland is the last person who may have a shot without them doing a catch weight match with GSP. Henderson showed me that someone can take Anderson down and lay on him, Lindland is Dan's wrestling coach and I don't think he'd even think about standing and banging with Silva.

It would be a boring ass fight but I think Lindland could win with charge in, take down and just lay on top for 5 minutes; repeat. It would be a long shot, but it's the last possibility I can see and even then I think Anderson destroys him.

Wouldn't laugh but Silva would fucking KILL Lindland right now.

[Innovator]

So I guess Okami is next for Silva?

And seriously, Okami's name is Thunder?! Jushin Thunder?!?! BLASPHEMY

[Rob]

So I guess Okami is next for Silva?

And seriously, Okami's name is Thunder?! Jushin Thunder?!?! BLASPHEMY

That's where the name came from. They wanted him to have a nickname and he couldn't think of one and then someone came out with that idea and he liked it because he is a mark for Liger.

[Kris P Lettus]

No one PMed me..

:(

Can someone PM me a link to the video, cause youtube doesn't have it and I don't want to risk going to sherdog or somewhere because I'd like to watch it UNSPOILED??

:wavesad:

[Innovator]

That's where the name came from. They wanted him to have a nickname and he couldn't think of one and then someone came out with that idea and he liked it because he is a mark for Liger.
As long as he's a mark...

[Rob]

No one PMed me..

:(

Can someone PM me a link to the video, cause youtube doesn't have it and I don't want to risk going to sherdog or somewhere because I'd like to watch it UNSPOILED??

:wavesad:

www.mmashare.com

Sign up. Nothing is spoiled in the video forum

[Innovator]

Is it me or does Leben have a ridiculously huge head?

[Reavant]

He looks like an angry billy kristal

[Rob]

Ummm Andrei looked like shit. He didnt work on any of the shit we worked on. His game plan was to take jakes back off the shots or circle away and drop bombs. Jake is not a very good wrestler and he looked great against Andrei. That trip andrei had was good but still. He didnt throw any power behind his punches.

O'Brian is a better wrestler than you think. Obviously UFC thought Arlovski would need to up his game to have an exciting fight or he'd be out wrestled and be in another bore fest. Since he lost the title, he looks like he is scared to take a punch.

[Jordan]

Random question - Do you think Kimbo Slice will ever be inside The Octagon?

[Rob]

Nope.

[Vastardikai]

Random question - Do you think Kimbo Slice will ever be inside The Octagon?

Kimbo vs. anyone with a modicum of skill = Kimbo getting annihilated.

[Rob]

He needs to grow all his facial and body hair back.

[Reavant]

I agree on that too

[Rob]

Shogun is out of the London show against Liddell.

[RP]

wtf

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Yeah, hurt himself training. No idea who they'll put Chuck against now?

[Rob]

Who the fuck is there really? Silva and Jardine are fighting each other. Ditto for Machida and Ortiz and Griffin and Rampage. Bonnar isn't good enough. Sokoudjou ain't gonna happen and I think he has a fight lined up. Houston Alexander would get killed. Wilson Gouveia is about the one guy or Rashad Evans.

[Reavant]

rashad is fighting tiago silva the month before

[Reavant]

UFC 84: Ill Will
Date: May 24, 2008

Location: Las Vegas
Venue: MGM Grand Garden Arena
Broadcast: TBA
Champ B.J. Penn vs. Sean Sherk (for lightweight title)
Keith Jardine vs. Wanderlei Silva
Lyoto Machida vs. Tito Ortiz
Rashad Evans vs. Thiago Silva
Terry Etim vs. Jeremy Stephens
Kazuhiro Nakamura vs. Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou
John Koppenhaver vs. TBA
Wilson Gouveia vs. Goran Reljic
Rousimar Palhares vs. Ivan Salaverry
Dong-Hyun Kim vs. Jason Tan

[Reavant]

The only possible match would be henderson. That or a 185 moving up or Chuck fighting a heavyweight.

[Rob]

Hmmm Henderson. That's not bad.

[Innovator]

Hendo wouldn't be bad...what about Silva making a claim to be the best pound for pound fighter and go up against Chuck?

[Innovator]

Brandon Vera fights around 223, he had 18 lbs to lose...

[Reavant]

Vera wont fight below hwt

[McLegend]

Wasn't it his goal though to hold both titles at the same time?

[RP]

Houston Alexander makes the most sense

[RP]

I've heard Anderson Silva wants the Liddell fight. I've also seen Vitor Belforts name tossed around.

[Rob]

Silva isn't going to 205lbs.

[Reavant]

Houston Alexander makes probably the least sense.... yea he beat jaardine, but he got crushed against thiago so why would they hjave him headline an event? Also why would Silva go up to 205 to fight someone who isnt the champ? Even if he wants that fight his management and probably Dana wont let him take it. I would put money on UFC pressuring Hendo into this fight.

[Innovator]

I'm trying to think of big middleweights who wouldn't be too hurt going to 205...any ideas?

[Innovator]

Well speaking of middleweights at 205...Rashad is stepping in to fight Chuck Liddell.

Yup, at UFC 85, Chuck Liddell vs. Rashad Evans

[SammyG]

Kurt Angle

[Stickman]

I pick Liddell via Murder.

[Reavant]

well i would have lost some money.... man chuck loves fighting the TUF2 cast

[Rob]

Saw this coming.

[Reavant]

haha how? evans was already signed for a match.

[McLegend]

Rashad is gonna win.

[Rob]

haha how? evans was already signed for a match.

Did I not mention earlier it could only be him or Wilson Gouveia? Bottom line is who the fuck else was there that wasn't in a big match? Without signing Richardo Arona, it had to be one of those two.

[Rob]

Rumour has it that Fedor is done with M-1 and will be in talks with UFC as soon as next week.

I hope they sign him and then blackball Randy Couture.

[McLegend]

I would think they would let Randy back if they signed Fedor.

And on the flip side I would think Randy would want to come back if they signed Fedor.

[Rob]

They want Randy back regardless. They should still blackball him though.

[Reavant]

Yea they should but I think they will be more worried about PPV buys then fucking randy over

[Destor]

which is the right mindset

[Destor]

Gee, retarded grudge or good buisness descision...dunno...

[Rob]

Hardly a grudge. They wanted him back fighting the whole time. Randy started everything. And if he came back after everything he said he is a fucking wanker.

[Kris P Lettus]

Random question - Do you think Kimbo Slice will ever be inside The Octagon?

Yes..

I think he will continue to tear through Elite XC until Dana White sings him.. Prolly this time next year..

:y:

Roggan is big on him..

[Reavant]

Hardly a grudge. They wanted him back fighting the whole time. Randy started everything. And if he came back after everything he said he is a fucking wanker.

Well Randy did say that hed only return if he could fight Fedor so he wouldnt exactly be going back on his words.

[Rob]

The bickering about money and the lies he told about not being paid money that he was is what I'm on about. He can't have 2 fights left on his deal and refuse a fight anyway.

[RP]

I would think they would let Randy back if they signed Fedor.

And on the flip side I would think Randy would want to come back if they signed Fedor.

Shit trust me. If UFC can pull Fedor in once M-1 goes to the shitter ( havent even had there first show yet ), then all bad things with Randy will be forgotten. That fight will happen and tons of money will be made. I wouldnt even be shocked if this whole damn thing has been a work just to build this fight up even more.

[Rob]

Anyone watching the Cage Rage show tonight?

[Reavant]

Holy shit! UFC is bringing in Cai Valesquez. He is a beast. I worked out with him in high school when I was visiting colleges and he was still at Iowa central college. He is an amazing wrestler and incredably athletic. hes a really good pick up.

[Rob]

Ken Shamrock got KO'd by a journeyman fighter Buzz Berry. He looked like crap and very much his age. Time to jack this fight game in Kenny.

[Crimson]

UFC 100- Ortiz/Shamrock 4- The Golden years

[Kris P Lettus]

They were saying he was gonna fight Kimbo at that first CBS Elite XC show..

[Rob]

They were saying he was gonna fight Kimbo at that first CBS Elite XC show..

:lol:

[Reavant]

Ken is gonna die i think

[Jura]

Yo is his head really that huge? He's like Mr. Potato Head or Glen Quagmire from Family Guy.

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/tools/med/2008/03/ipt/1205206615.jpg

[Jura]

Kurt Angle Admittedly not Ready for MMA

John Morgan - TAGG Radio, for MMAjunkie.com Mar 14, 5:33 pm EDT

Although professional wrestling superstar Kurt Angle will compete against UFC heavyweight champion Randy Couture in a submission grappling match later this year, don’t expect Angle to immediately follow in fellow professional wrestler Brock Lesnar’s footsteps—at least not yet.

Angle discussed his upcoming grappling match, as well as a possible foray into MMA with a potential seven-figure deal with the UFC, while a guest on Thursday’s edition of TAGG Radio (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=AoMJO_fysEEQDWWCeObDpaCtEo14/SIG=10q41c8b4/**http%3A//taggradio.com/) (www.taggradio.com (http://www.taggradio.com)), a content partner site of MMAjunkie.com (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=AgvxWOGZh85th3PTLGy84omtEo14/SIG=10quqj7e7/**http%3A//mmajunkie.com/) (www.mmajunkie.com (http://www.mmajunkie.com)).

“I’ve always wanted to do (MMA), from after the Olympics, and I just never got the shot,” Angle said. “I’ve been keeping myself in really, really good shape, but not in the fighting shape you have to be in to go into MMA.”

Instead, Angle will first try his hand at submission wrestling, which is essentially MMA without striking. The match will be Angle’s first in Rico Chiapparelli’s Professional Submission League, while Couture has competed in the organization before, battling Brazilian jiu-jitsu world champion Ronaldo “Jacare” Souza to a draw. The date of the event has not yet been determined, but Angle believes it will take place in late summer or early fall.

“A lot of people are pretty much counting me out, which I don’t blame them,” Angle admitted. “But you can’t count out an Olympic gold medalist.”

After the match, Angle will continue to pursue a transition into MMA, something the 39-year-old has been trying to do for several years. Angle has had contract negotiations with several organizations, including the UFC, though none of those discussions led to a deal.

“(UFC President) Dana White gave me more than any other fighter could ever dream of,” Angle said. “He wanted me to sign for a long period of time where I didn’t have to fight that much. But, he wanted the complete rights to me. I guess he wanted Kurt Angle the name and the person to be affiliated with the UFC for the next whatever years. But the figure was staggering. I could tell you that all the deals that were done were all in the seven-figure mark for the fight.”

Angle’s training for a possible MMA debut has been hampered by the difficulties of constant travel while working as a professional wrestler. He also has a history of neck and shoulder issues that have required numerous surgeries. He hopes to land with an organization that will allow him ample time to prepare properly for a fight.

“Last year I trained about four straight months, and I’ll tell you what, the training is as grueling, if not more grueling, than the training I did for the 1996 Olympics,” Angle said. “Within four months I was so broken down, and I was trying to wrestle full time on the road as well, and I couldn’t do it.”

So while Angle is excited about the opportunity to test his abilities in submission grappling against one of the UFC’s most decorated fighters, an MMA debut is still far from a sure thing.

“I don’t want (you) to misunderstand me,” he said. “When I say I am in shape, I am in no shape at all right now to go into an octagon or on a platform and have a fight with Randy Couture or Chuck Liddell or ‘Rampage’ Jackson or Brock Lesnar or whoever it is. Right now I cannot.”

Angle also discussed at length his previous battles with addiction to painkillers, his thoughts on Lesnar’s recent UFC debut, and his less-than-amicable departure from the WWE. To hear the full interview, download Thursday’s edition of TAGG Radio, available for free in the TAGG Radio archives (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=AvRaqtbFG6fJ_9oCnLzRR02tEo14/SIG=11oi3v15o/**http%3A//www.taggradio.com/index2.php%3Fpage=archives).

[Kris P Lettus]

WEC™ Live On Versus
Name Height Weight Record Name Height Weight Record
Doug Marshall 5' 10" (178 cm) 205 7-2-0 VS Brian Stann 6' 1" (185 cm) 205 4-0-0
Chael Sonnen 6' 1" (185 cm) 185 21-8-1 VS Bryan Baker 6' 3" (191 cm) 185 6-0-0
Ed Ratcliff 5' 10" (178 cm) 155 6-0-0 VS Marcus Hicks 5' 6" (168 cm) 155 6-0-0
Steve Cantwell 6' 2" (188 cm) 205 4-1-0 VS Tim McKenzie n/a 0
Hiromitsu Miura 5' 9" (175 cm) 181 7-3-0 VS Blas Avena 6' 0" (183 cm) 185 4-1-0
John Alessio 5' 10" (178 cm) 170 27-11-0 VS Brock Larson 5' 11" (180 cm) 170 21-1-0
Sergio Gomez 5' 4" (163 cm) 155 6-1-0 VS Richard Crunkilton Jr. 5' 7" (170 cm) 155 17-1-0
Ryan Stonitsch n/a 0 VS Alex Serdyukov 6' 2" (188 cm) 170 8-4-0
Chris Manuel n/a 0 VS Kenji Osawa 5' 7" (170 cm) 135 13-7-1
Logan Clark 6' 2" (188 cm) 185 9-0-0 VS TBD n/a 0

Next Wed night Live on Versus..

I can not wait..

[Kris P Lettus]

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj8/ozmafioso/andersonsilva.jpg

LOL

[Crimson]

Tight ass pic

[Kris P Lettus]

Yeah, it's sweet but it's funny as fuck too..

[Kris P Lettus]

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OMG LMFAO

[Destor]

wow

[Rob]

Yeah that was awesome.

[Kris P Lettus]

EliteXC Offers Fedor Emelianenko Four-Fight, Seven-Figure Deal

by Dann Stupp -

ProElite, Inc., the parent company of Elite Xtreme Combat, has offered former PRIDE heavyweight champion Fedor Emelianenko a four-fight contract that could put the famed Russian on the first two EliteXC-CBS shows.

The news was first reported by Chad Edward , though MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) has learned some additional details about the deal.

Emelianenko's managemenet and EliteXC officials could not be reached for comment.

According to a source close to the negotiations, the deal would call for a base pay somewhere between $300,000 and $500,000 per fight. Additionally, after the two fights (which would air on CBS or Showtime), Emelianenko's next two fights would air on pay-per-view. As part of the deal, he would receive a portion of the PPV revenue, and the "per-buy bonus" would scale as the total number of buys increases.

The length of the contract would run 18 months.

As Nokaut.com reported, EliteXC officials would also have to introduce the fighter as "M-1 Global's Fedor Emelianenko." Sherdog.com recently reported that Emelianenko never actually signed with the recently restructured M-1 Global organization and that the return of a $1.5 million signing bonus would essentially make him a free agent. M-1 Global executives deny the report.

MMAjunkie.com has also learned that the EliteXC offer would call for Fedor's brother, Aleksander Emelianenko, to compete on the same fight cards if terms for a fight contract can be reached. Other Russian Red Devil Fight Team members could also earn consideration for future events.

The first EliteXC-CBS show is scheduled to take place May 31 in Newark, N.J., and Kevin "Kimbo Slice" Ferguson is tentatively scheduled as the night's headliner. However, Ferguson and Emelianenko are unlikely to fight each other if Emelianenko signs with the organization.

EliteXC is just one of many fight organizations reportedly interested in signing Emelianenko (27-1), who last competed in December at the Yarennoka! New Year's Eve 2007 show. There, he defeated 7-foot-2 Hong Man Choi with a first-round armbar.
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[RP]

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OMG LMFAO

LOL

[Kris P Lettus]

Cuban: HDNet to Carry Angle-Couture Match
by MMAjunkie

Mark Cuban, owner of HDNet and the growing HDNet Fights brand, says the all-high-definition cable station will broadcast a Randy Couture vs. Kurt Angle submission grappling match if the bout comes to fruition.

Cuban confirmed the broadcast plans in a recent interview with fightticker.com, a new site operated by our friend Pramit Mohapatra.

Angle recently talked about the potential match during a segment on TAGG Radio, a recap of which can be found here on MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com).

According to the Olympic gold medalist and current professional-wrestling performer, the match will be Angle's first in Rico Chiapparelli's Professional Submission League. Couture, the UFC's estranged heavyweight champion, has previously competed in the organization, battling Brazilian jiu-jitsu world champion Ronaldo "Jacare" Souza to a draw.

The date of the Angle-Couture fight has not yet been determined, but Angle believes it will take place in late summer or early fall.

"They are trying to make it happen and it will be on HDNet," Cuban said.

HDNet Fights, which has hosted two of its own shows to date, has also presented live and tape-delayed fights for a number of other organizations, including Strikeforce, the International Fight League, Hardcore Fighting Championships, Matt Lindland's SportFight and others. They've also hosted specialty programming, such as an Xtreme Couture smoker with Randy's wife, Kim Couture.

As Cuban told fightticker.com, that type of co-promotion is simply a way to grow the sport.

"Having all that entrepreneurial energy is great for MMA," Cuban said.


I didn't think this fight would ever really happen..

[Rob]

Angle said he signed for it last week.

Don't believe it still.

[Kris P Lettus]

Also, Phil Baroni is gonna fight Ninja Rau at that Elite XC show on CBS..

[Kris P Lettus]

WEC™ Live On Versus
Name Height Weight Record Name Height Weight Record
Doug Marshall 5' 10" (178 cm) 205 7-2-0 VS Brian Stann 6' 1" (185 cm) 205 4-0-0
Chael Sonnen 6' 1" (185 cm) 185 21-8-1 VS Bryan Baker 6' 3" (191 cm) 185 6-0-0
Ed Ratcliff 5' 10" (178 cm) 155 6-0-0 VS Marcus Hicks 5' 6" (168 cm) 155 6-0-0
Steve Cantwell 6' 2" (188 cm) 205 4-1-0 VS Tim McKenzie n/a 0
Hiromitsu Miura 5' 9" (175 cm) 181 7-3-0 VS Blas Avena 6' 0" (183 cm) 185 4-1-0
John Alessio 5' 10" (178 cm) 170 27-11-0 VS Brock Larson 5' 11" (180 cm) 170 21-1-0
Sergio Gomez 5' 4" (163 cm) 155 6-1-0 VS Richard Crunkilton Jr. 5' 7" (170 cm) 155 17-1-0
Ryan Stonitsch n/a 0 VS Alex Serdyukov 6' 2" (188 cm) 170 8-4-0
Chris Manuel n/a 0 VS Kenji Osawa 5' 7" (170 cm) 135 13-7-1
Logan Clark 6' 2" (188 cm) 185 9-0-0 VS TBD n/a 0

Next Wed night Live on Versus..

I can not wait..

TONIGHT

[Kris P Lettus]

Marcus Hicks is about to destroy this kid..

[Kris P Lettus]

Hicks beat his ass standing and choked him out in like 1:30..

Second first round choke..

[Kris P Lettus]

Brian Stann KO'd Marshal in the first with a left hook..

He was celebrating before Marshal hit the floor..

[Kris P Lettus]

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[Rob]

I need to start downloading WEC shows.

[Kris P Lettus]

I :heart: that site you linked me to, Rob..

That whole WEC show the other night was good..

[Rob]

Tim Sylvia was fired by the UFC today with 1 fight left on his deal. This guy has to be more stupid than Jeff Hardy. Top heavyweight in the biggest company in the world and he leaves because he thinks he isn't making enough.

[Kris P Lettus]

Where did you hear this??

I heard he had some "huge announcement" to make yesterday and it turned out to be that he was going hunting..

Link??

[Kris P Lettus]

Sylvia may be set to announce he's leaving UFC

The Fight Network

Updated: March 27, 2008, 1:18 PM EST Two-time UFC heavyweight champion Tim Sylvia could announce his decision to leave the Las Vegas-based promotion as early as Friday, according to a source close to the situation.Sylvia, who has one fight remaining on his current contract with the UFC, submitted to Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira in a bout for the interim heavyweight championship at UFC 81 in February.
Sylvia's departure could set the stage for a lucrative match with former Pride heavyweight champion Fedor Emelianenko later this year. Still widely regarded as the top pound-for-pound fighter in the world, Emelianenko's services are being sought by a number of potential suitors, including EliteXC.
Sylvia (24-4) has won seven of his last nine fights — the lone defeats coming to Nogueira and Randy Couture, two of the greatest heavyweights of all time. Based out of the Miletich Fighting Systems camp in Bettendorf, Iowa, the gangly, 6-foot-8 Sylvia underwent back surgery following his unanimous decision loss to Couture at UFC 68 in March 2007. He made a successful return to the Octagon in October, as he handed Brandon Vera his first professional defeat at UFC 77.
The 32-year-old Sylvia owns victories against former UFC heavyweight champions Andrei Arlovski (twice) and Ricco Rodriguez. He has also defeated the American Top Team's Jeff Monson, Mike Whitehead (twice) and Ben Rothwell. Nineteen of his 24 career wins have come by knockout, technical knockout or submission.


That's all I could find..

[Rob]

Where did you hear this??

I heard he had some "huge announcement" to make yesterday and it turned out to be that he was going hunting..

Link??

He was gonna announce he was leaving on HD Net tonight. UFC however have decided to break the news earlier. I think Meltzer is reporting it now but a guy from the UFC office over here told me they were just told he was fired.

[weather vane]

George St. Pierre is gay.

[Rob]

Matt Serra is gonna humble him again me thinks.

[Kris P Lettus]

http://my.break.com/content/view.aspx?ContentID=478570

You can tell Sylvia made the right decision in that video.. Look at the confidence on his face..

[Reavant]

he looks like hes being held captive haha

[Vastardikai]

Watching Shamrock-Le gave me two realizations and an observation.

Realizations:
1. Frank Shamrock is an idiot. Don't stand and trade with Cung Le. When he got tripped in the second, Frank dared him to come down to his level. Cung shook his head. Frank is a submission specialist. Cung is a target just WAITING to be put into a submission. End of Story.

2. Based on his post-match commentary, Cung Le is a douchebag. He said that he was aiming for the wrist, as in TRYING to break his arm. Well, to his credit, it worked.

Observation:
Cung Le is definitely beatable. Several of his kicks SHOULD have been turned into leglocks. He doesn't have one shot knockout power, as evident in several of his fights. He also doesn't seem agressive enough. Strategy-wise, I'd charge him, wanting him to kick me. If I can't get the leg lock, I'd keep coming, until I'm inside. Le doesn't have an inside game, and Frank did expose that. Dirty Boxing was where Frank did the most damage, and a better thai clinch would have done Le in. In other words, Cung Le would NOT want to face Anderson Silva.

[Rob]

Fuck me that was an awesome 3rd.

[Vastardikai]

It was an awesome 3rd. I'll give Shamrock his due for standing with him, but the fact is he shouldn't have. Which is why he's an idiot with a broken arm right now.

Cung Le will bring in some revenue, as long as they do for him what they'll also have to do for Kimbo Slice: Protect him from any real threat. In other words, don't look for Cung to fight a Robbie Lawler (who I think can take him), and don't expect Kimbo to fight anyone who's not over the hill or has anything closely resembling talent.

[Jura]

I loaded up parts 1 and 2 and fell asleep now I watched them and I tried to find 3 but they are being taken down :(. I can't see the end of the fight!.

[Kris P Lettus]

dailymotion.com has it up..

[Jura]

I just saw the rest a few minutes ago. I don't follow Frank and I hear he's a submission artist so I'm thinking he can't punch but if he could I think he would have won.

[weather vane]

I can't see Serra beating GSP again, he is too good. WHICH MAKES ME SO ANGRY BECAUSE I HATE HIM.

I so hope Serra breaks his arm.

[Reavant]

Theres talks of the fight being fixed so that they can get a rubber match in 1-3 years down the road

[Kris P Lettus]

Frank Shamrock To Undergo Surgery Today
By Jason Perkins | March 30, 2008

Frank Shamrock and his wife Amy Shamrock were both admitted to San Jose's Valley Medical Center last night.
Frank Shamrock was admitted to the hospital to receive treatment for a broken right forearm he suffered in his fight against Cung Le. Dave Meltzer of Yahoo! Sports is reporting that the arm was snapped in two. Shamrock was in so much pain due to the broken arm that he could not answer the bell for the fourth round and Le was declared the winner due to TKO/Doctor's Stoppage.

Both Frank Shamrock and wife Amy ended up in San Jose's Valley Medical Center on Saturday night.

Frank Shamrock went to the hospital for the treatment of injuries suffered during his Strikeforce middleweight title loss to Cung Le, including what is believed to be a broken right forearm. Meltzer is also reporting that Shamrock will undergo surgery to insert a plate into his forearm.

Amy Shamrock actually thought she was going into labor during the match. She was quickly rushed off to San Jose's Valley Medical Center only to be released a short time later after doctors realized that she was going through a "false alarm". She is due to have Shamrock's second child in May.

[Rob]

Theres talks of the fight being fixed so that they can get a rubber match in 1-3 years down the road

That talk is shit.

[McLegend]

Montreal screw job Deux?

[Reavant]

lets just hope it isnt true

[McLegend]

lol it's not.

Fixing a fight would kill UFC.

[Reavant]

greed is one hell of a motivator... im not saying the talk is true and i hope its not but i dont put it past anyone

[McLegend]

greed is one hell of a motivator... im not saying the talk is true and i hope its not but i dont put it past anyone

If it was found out they fixed the fight the money would not be as much in the long run. The thing MMA has for itself is credibilty, and that is tough to get back.

[Crimson]

Yea that makes sense^..it's not like they are fighting for millions like in boxing

[Reavant]

Boxing is also way easier to fix

[Rob]

greed is one hell of a motivator... im not saying the talk is true and i hope its not but i dont put it past anyone

Seriously shut up about this shit. If you seriously think UFC is gonna fix a fight under license, you are insane.

And if they were gonna do it, they would have done it long before now. No point in pissing millions of dollars up the wall with all these upsets if you can just work them.

[Bad Guy]

Mir vs McCully

[Reavant]

Seriously shut up about this shit. If you seriously think UFC is gonna fix a fight under license, you are insane.

And if they were gonna do it, they would have done it long before now. No point in pissing millions of dollars up the wall with all these upsets if you can just work them.

man ur easy to piss off... i hope they dont do it, but i keep seeing in other places that there has been leaks about it.

[Rob]

People talking nonsense winds me up. And you know better anyway.

[Fabien Barthez]

:shifty::shifty::shifty:

[Rob]

You fell for an April Fools pal.

[Reavant]

thats why i usually wait till the second to do my april fools jokes.... they never expect it

[Fabien Barthez]

I read it on mmascoops, and didn't even think about the date. Feeling quite gutted about my naivity to be honest. :(

[Rob]

You weren't the only one trust me.

UFC Fight Night tonights kids by the way.

[Reavant]

1 Anthony Johnson beat Tom Speer via TKO (Strikes) in round 1 in 0:51
2 George Sotiropoulos beat Roman Mitichyan via TKO (Strikes) in round 2 in 2:24
3 Clay Guida beat Samy Schiavo via TKO (Strikes) in round 1 in 4:15
4 Manvel Gamburyan beat Jeff Cox via Submission (Guillotine choke) in round 1 in 1:41
5 Marcus Aurelio beat Ryan Roberts via Submission (Armbar) in round 1 in 0:16

[Reavant]

undercard bouts

[Reavant]

not an april fools by the way

[Reavant]

how the hell do you get armbared in 16 seconds? seriously what the fuck?

[Kris P Lettus]

Houston Alexander got KO'd in like 10 second via the Superman punch..

WTF

:(

[Kris P Lettus]

Nate Diaz

:love:

[Kris P Lettus]

Nate Diaz is a fucking stud..

[RP]

Florian will KO Lauzon probably in the first round.

[RP]

that was one helluva triangle choke lol. Pushing off the ring.

[Kris P Lettus]

He was flexing and flipping the double birds like 30 seconds before Batman tapped..

:cool:

[Kris P Lettus]

It's not like Hamil can hear all those cheers..

He looked dominant in that second round..

That Botsch guy looked decent though..

[RP]

DUHRRRRRRRRRRUHDU DAH ONM:GPD ODU DURRRRRRRRR DIKO WUNNNNNNNNN FARRRRRRRRRT FUTTTTTTTTT DUR DAYER OFNNJE "G

[RP]

Karo looks out of shape

[RP]

HUGE win for Thiago Alves

[Kris P Lettus]

Thiago is the man..

Huge knee and I don't think that was a bad stoppage.. The refs have to protect the fighters..

[Kris P Lettus]

LOL

Forrest Griffin: "Rampage said that when I wipe, I don't get it all which is only half right, but I'm not gonna tell you which half.."

[Kris P Lettus]

Tommy Speer is about to get fucked up..

[Kris P Lettus]

And there it was..

[Kris P Lettus]

KenFlo is fucking J-Lo up..

[RP]

best 1st round of the year

How was Lauzon not getting that ankle lock hooked. He had it twice. I thought he had it big tim with 15 secondss left

[Kris P Lettus]

He he looked good at the end of the round..

Flo in the mount..

[RP]

Florian is to strong. Lauzon couldnt get out of the mount at all.

[Kris P Lettus]

He got out of it once (Florian into side control) but yeah Ken-Flo was too much for him..

Good night of fights..

TUF NEXT!!

[Reavant]

only one fight went to a decision... gotta love it

[Kris P Lettus]

Yeah it it was the best fight of the night IMO..

Maynard looked like a beast..

[Rob]

I think Steve Mazzagati needs to let a few things go in fights. The two decisions he called here wouldn't have been debatable if it went another 3 seconds. Instead you have the Karo and Houston crying and bitching for the next 3 months.

[Innovator]

I think Mazzagati is just lazy

"Well I already ran over....might as well stop it"

[Vastardikai]

Mazzagati let a kick to the back of the head go during Shamrock-Le, as well.

He's replacing Herb Dean as the worst ref. ever.

[Rob]

Well the Lauzon vs. Florian fight would have been stopped if Mazzagati was ref when Florian was elbowing the back of the head.

[Kris P Lettus]

I think Steve Mazzagati needs to let a few things go in fights. The two decisions he called here wouldn't have been debatable if it went another 3 seconds. Instead you have the Karo and Houston crying and bitching for the next 3 months.

The Alves/Parysian fight was questionable but Houston Alexander was knocked the fuck out.. Not from the blow thatn dropped him but from the first follow punch on the ground.. His hands dropped and everything..