MLB Thread

[ClockShot]

Chatter going around is that it's Carlos Gomez, Vito.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I'd jump for joy at Gomez. He's not having anywhere near as good of a year as last year, but the dude should be motivated coming to a contender. Plus he's under contract for next year and should be motivated to cash in for the big payday in 2017.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Man...Bartolo Colon is such an easy guy to root for but he just seems done. Dude pitched 8 innings of 1 run ball last time out and his ERA over his last 7 starts is still close to 7.00

Collins probably only left him in as long as he did tonight because he was too busy checking the trade rumors in the dugout like everybody else.</font>

[Droford]

Hey Vito, at the top of the MLBTR page the Mets nearing a "big trade" for a "big bat". Any guesses as to who?

Oh, and the Mat Latos trade is on hold due to someone's medicals raising a red flag.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Source: <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Mets?src=hash">#Mets</a> close to acquiring THIS &quot;big bat&quot; <a href="http://t.co/rjcXAAYCrP">pic.twitter.com/rjcXAAYCrP</a></p>&mdash; Orioles Fan Problems (@OriolesFanProbz) <a href="https://twitter.com/OriolesFanProbz/status/626537517366542336">July 29, 2015</a></blockquote>
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[Ruien]

White Sox are so making the wild card this year. Team is finally playing as projected.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Brewers: RHP Zack Wheeler and SS Wilmer Flores
Mets get: OF Carlos Gomez

OMGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG</font>

[Damian Rey]

Mets are pushing hard for Carlos Gomez. That'd be a huge pickup for them. Juan Ligares would be going back to Milwaukee, who also want a top starter.

EDIT: too slow lol

[Damian Rey]

Fucking mlbtr is having a major server issue

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>They're still reviewing medicals apparently. So Flores is still out there playing SS. Take him out NOW. Don't risky anything, Collins.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Honestly this just feels like a heist for the Mets if it's just Flores and Wheeler. Flores has been horrible on defense and his bat has been non-existent for over a month.

Wheeler won't be back until June at the earliest. I think he has the chance to develop into an incredible pitcher and I wish him the best, but the Mets have an embarrassment of pitching riches right now. And let's be real...no team in baseball could afford to keep Harvey, deGrom, Thor, Matz, AND Wheeler once they all hit their arbitration years. They needed to move someone. Plus they evidently kept Michael Fulmer who might be their next big arm on the horizon.

And they somehow kept Lagares too, evidently. They may as well just give him Tommy John Surgery. He no longer has a starting spot and it's clear his elbow has been bothering him all year.</font>

[RP]

Gomez hasn't exactly been lighting it up and he's a shit magnet

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Gomez has also been playing for a team whose season was basically over by mid-April.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Feel like the trade might help reinvigorate him. And even if he struggles a bit, he's a Boras guy going into a contract year next season. He'll be fired up.</font>

[Droford]

Chris Rose on IT said Puig should get traded to Baltimore

Can't see it happening.

I'd rather they try for Cespedes

[Emperor Smeat]

Anyone interested in some <s>really shitty</s> slightly used pitchers from the Red Sox?

No need to worry about arm fatigue with most of them since they barely pitch that many innings per game. Might even be able to convince the Sox to add in a box of Fenway franks with every deal as a sweetener.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Flores about to get an AB in a blowout game after supposedly being traded. Please please please don't get hit.</font>

[RP]

Terry Collins is a horrible manager

[RP]

Why is Collins running him out there while he's in tears. Isn't there another SS that Flores splits the position with??

Terry Collins might be the worst m manager in baseball.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>@Ken_Rosenthal: Asked official involved with Gomez trade why Flores is still in game. Reply: “No deal is done. The entire world has jumped the gun.”

fuck my life</font>

[Ruien]

Why is Collins running him out there while he's in tears. Isn't there another SS that Flores splits the position with??

Terry Collins might be the worst m manager in baseball.

Was the crowd chanting his name or something? Why would he cry? Really funny to keep him in the game though when everyone knows he will be gone after.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Ruben Tejada is the main guy at SS...in fact he's started at SS practically every day for the last month.

I know he needs a day off...but jesus. Could they not have let him play a couple of innings?</font>

[Evil Vito]

Was the crowd chanting his name or something? Why would he cry? Really funny to keep him in the game though when everyone knows he will be gone after.

<font color=goldenrod>Wilmer's one of those Latin players who signed really young. He's been with the Mets organization since he was 16, and now 8 years later and after being hyped as one of their top young hitters he's being traded for the first time. I can understand being emotional.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>And now Hamels is going to the Rangers.

HOT FUCKING TRADE DEADLINE STOVE</font>

[RP]

I wonder if Philly got Profar or Gallo or both.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>lol no Met had hit 3 homers in a home game until Kirk Nieuwenhuis did it 2 and a half weeks ago.

17 nights later, and now Duda has done it...all solo shots in a 7-3 blowout loss.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>If Wheeler's medicals are holding this thing up, there's every chance that it isn't even completed before tomorrow's 12 PM game finishes.

Poor Wilmer may need to sit in the dugout all game just like Latos and Morse with Miami tonight.</font>

[RP]

Apparently Gallo or Profar are not a part of the Hamels deal.

[Frank Drebin]

White Sox are so making the wild card this year. Team is finally playing as projected.

mmmmmnope. They'll be done by the end of August. They're 6.5 games behind the Astros and only 5.5 ahead of the Red Sox. That's where they are AFTER a six game winning streak. They still need to leapfrog 5 other teams, dude.

Kenny will do what he's good at. He'll make a trade for some crappy old guy with a name (Jr Grif, Youk, Brett Myers, Carl Everett, an Alomar brother) and you guys will get a half chub over it.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Collins was absolutely fucking FUMING in the postgame. Says nobody at any point called him about any agreed upon trade, hence why he kept Flores in the whole time. Flores himself had no idea why he got a standing O in the 7th and found out about the trade from a fan in the crowd.

There's always been a huge disconnect between Collins and the front office and stuff like this proves it. While I'm often not a fan of Terry's managerial decisions, you can tell he cares about his players. He is so pissed off that he had to put Flores through that.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>And the trade is now off.

I quit.</font>

[Droford]

<font color=goldenrod>And now Hamels is going to the Rangers.

HOT FUCKING TRADE DEADLINE STOVE</font>

Trying to figure out why the Rangers would trade for him, makes no sense.

[RP]

<font color=goldenrod>And the trade is now off.

I quit.</font>

Lol

[RP]

Trying to figure out why the Rangers would trade for him, makes no sense.

He has 3 years on his deal and the Rangers will be good next year.

[RP]

No one puts Wilmer in a corner!

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>All evidence pointed to the trade being 100% agreed upon from a player standpoint. Only holdup was Wheeler's medicals. He just had TJS in March so I presumed the Brewers wanted to see how he was doing in his recovery.

So yeah. Now we know Wheeler is basically untradeable because he clearly isn't far along in recovery yet. Flores' confidence is probably shot beyond repair. And teams now have an idea of what it will take to land Gomez. The Mets should have the talent to get something done...but it won't be someone as good as Gomez.

I don't even think I care anymore. What an absolute gut punch.</font>

[Evil Vito]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLIas4GW8AEDqL7.jpg

[Droford]

The Os are only 1 game out of the wild card

[Emperor Smeat]

Apparently Rangers were not the top choice for the Phillies in the Hammels deal since they liked the Astros offer more but Cole Hammels killed it with his no trade clause.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Alderson is the one that nixed the trade. Over concerns of Gomez' hip.

What an absolute fucking joke.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Sorry I'm going off in this thread but this is by far the biggest slap in the face the Mets have ever given to their fans. Gomez has been fucking fine and would have single-handedly transformed a lineup that badly needed a big time hitter. And they were going to get him for a shortstop playing terribly (and who had his confidence systematically killed as a result of this leak) and a pitcher who won't be back until June next year.

If they don't get a big bat by 4 PM on Friday I am finished watching Mets baseball this year. At a certain point the front office needs to stop being a bunch of fucking pussies.</font>

[Damian Rey]

I'm sorry Vito. You need a hug you handsome man?

[Damian Rey]

Mor like gun shy. Wheeler isn't as good as any of the current young studs they're currently using. And yes, Flores, a below average bat who doesn't rate well defensively is certainly expendable. I don't get it. Gomez may have been arguably the best player they could've acquired for such little talent in exchange.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>It's fucking gutless. That trade was an absolute heist. Gomez has missed all of one game since June 23. Even if something did happen with his hip, he's only signed through 2016. He wouldn't break the bank and fuck them over for years and years if he had gotten hurt like Tulo would have. What Gomez could have potentially provided far exceeds what anyone else in the current Mets lineup is capable of.

And I like Wheeler a lot...but jesus christ. If there was ever a great time to cash in on him, it's now. They still would have had Harvey, deGrom, Thor, Matz, Niese, Fulmer, Montero, Verrett, Ynoa, and the rest. They have SO much pitching. And given how salaries have been increasing there's not a chance in hell they'll be able to keep all of the established guys in that group once they all reach arbitration.

Unless Gomez had an inoperable tumor on the base of his spine, this was a fucking horrible decision that sends the completely wrong message to the entire fanbase.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>And to top all that off, I bet Gomez goes to the Cards or something now and tears shit up. Because why not?</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Hopefully all of the people reading my rants in the tri-state area did so in Mike Francesa's voice.</font>

[screech]

I don't know anything about the prospects coming here for Hamels, but I can dig getting Matt Harrison.

And JAKE DIEKMAN WAS TRADED. FUCK YES. GOOD RIDDANCE, YOU BUM!

[ClockShot]

Great. Yanks are in Texas for 1 more game. What are the chances Hamels gets the start?

Checked my phone this morning and heard the Gomez trade got eighty-sixed. Tough break for Vito and the Mets. But here's hoping they grab someone else.

[ClockShot]

MEANWHILE.


The Mat Latos trade finally got done. Somehow the Braves got in the mix and this became a 3-team deal.

Dodgers get: Mat Latos, Mike Morse, Jose Peraza, Alex Wood, Jim Johnson, and Luis Avilan.

Braves get: Hector Olivera, Paco Rodriguez, and Zachary Bird

Marlins get: Kevin Guzman, Jeff Brigham, and Victor Araujo.

[Ruien]

mmmmmnope. They'll be done by the end of August. They're 6.5 games behind the Astros and only 5.5 ahead of the Red Sox. That's where they are AFTER a six game winning streak. They still need to leapfrog 5 other teams, dude.

Kenny will do what he's good at. He'll make a trade for some crappy old guy with a name (Jr Grif, Youk, Brett Myers, Carl Everett, an Alomar brother) and you guys will get a half chub over it.

They need to get past the Twinkies, Os, and Blue Jays. None of those teams are excellent. The White Sox were suppose to be contenders for a reason.

But you seem to be one of those disillusioned Chicago people that is a Sox/Cub fan and hates the other team for no reason. You do notice that Cubs are 2.5 back from the second wildcard spot right? How many games are the Sox down by? 2.5.

I would also rather be in a race for a spot against a bunch of mediocre teams than the Giants (And Mets).

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Remember the episode of The League where Ruxin's hot wife promises him special sex only to find porn on his computer and then tell him "no special sex. not now. not ever."

That was basically me last night.

"I feel like I have 10 pounds of pudding inside of me"</font> :(

[ClockShot]

Indians send Brandon Moss to the Cardinals for Rob Kaminsky.

[RP]

MEANWHILE.


The Mat Latos trade finally got done. Somehow the Braves got in the mix and this became a 3-team deal.

Dodgers get: Mat Latos, Mike Morse, Jose Peraza, Alex Wood, Jim Johnson, and Luis Avilan.

Braves get: Hector Olivera, Paco Rodriguez, and Zachary Bird

Marlins get: Kevin Guzman, Jeff Brigham, and Victor Araujo.

Latos trade not done. He's warming up in Miami right now.

[RP]

Come on Cubbies. Do a deal!

[screech]

Latos trade not done. He's warming up in Miami right now.

Dan Haren is pitching for the Marlins today.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Sounds like Price might be heading to Toronto.</font>

[road doggy dogg]

I'm reading Norris and Alford (not confirmed)

I'm... okay with this

[screech]

Per SI: Norris, Matt Boyd, and Jairo Labourt

[Frank Drebin]

Man, Jays and Royals are all in on 2015. Seems crazy for the Jays to do that since they have such a big gap to makeup to win the division. Going all in, just to get to a one-game playoff is risky (see: 2014 A's). If they win that game though (obvs especially if Price starts it), this move is worth alot more.

[Bad News Gertner]

Per SI: Norris, Matt Boyd, and Jairo Labourt

Norris is the only one worth having. Boyd and Labourt are fringe prospects.


WOOOOOO FUCKING HOOOOOOOO!

[Frank Drebin]

Come on Cubbies. Do a deal!

They're doing what they should be doing. Theo and Jed are all about timing the market to get best value. They're under no obligation to make a trade, so they're waiting while everyone else makes deals and will probably try to get the best value from whichever pitcher is left over from a team who wants to unload a guy for something. I'd take Mike Leake for a similar package that brought Miguel Montero to Wrigley.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>lol the umps called a rain delay with 2 outs in the 9th inning. what a joke.</font>

[RP]

Lol Mets

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Game resumes, Familia comes back in and blows it again. 3 straight blown saves since the break. 7-1 lead blown. and then they call for another rain delay.

lol @ me for dreaming up playoff possibilities with this team. Nats will probably sweep them this weekend.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I hope the crew chief in this game gets a sudden visit from the Angel of Death.</font>

[Nicky Fives]

Norris is the only one worth having. Boyd and Labourt are fringe prospects.


WOOOOOO FUCKING HOOOOOOOO!

I still want AA to pick up another established reliever.....

[Bad News Gertner]

I'd like a dependable lefty out of the pen. Loup and Cecil have been horrible.

[Emperor Smeat]

Man, Jays and Royals are all in on 2015. Seems crazy for the Jays to do that since they have such a big gap to makeup to win the division. Going all in, just to get to a one-game playoff is risky (see: 2014 A's). If they win that game though (obvs especially if Price starts it), this move is worth alot more.

Baring a Yankees collapse, the division crown is likely out of the question but they probably care more about snapping their 20+ year post season drought. Would be like the Pirates a few years ago where the streak getting snapped was a bigger deal than winning a division title or having home field for the one-game playoff.

[ClockShot]

And the Yankees for reasons unknown went and got Dustin Ackley.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Tigers keep on dealing. Joakim Soria to the Pirates.</font>

[RP]

What is with this doubling up on closers bullshit.

Dammit the Cubs have fucking Hector Rondon

Dammit I almost posted this calling the Cubs the Cums.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Carlos Gomez and Mike Fiers to the Astros. No problem with his hip in Houston.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Also the Dodgers immediately designated Michael Morse for assignment. wtf.</font>

[Damian Rey]

Hahaha the Dodgers eating his entire year's salary for next season.

Not well versed on the pieces going back to Milwaukee, but Gomez definitely helps the 'Stros.

My condolences, Vito.

[Bad News Gertner]

I still can't believe in a span of 3 days the Jays got David Price and Troy Tulowitzki. I'm just in shock.

[Emperor Smeat]

:-\ Daniel Nava got designated for assignment by the Red Sox and getting released if he clears waivers.

Even though he's struggled this year, really liked him due to the "feel good" story surrounding his Red Sox career.

Team wants as many arms as possible for the main roster because of how horrible the starters have been so he became expendable.

[Frank Drebin]

What is with this doubling up on closers bullshit.

Dammit the Cubs have fucking Hector Rondon

Dammit I almost posted this calling the Cubs the Cums.

Playoff Baseball is different from the regular season. Playoff baseball is all about frontline starters and a couple of lockdown closers. Watch the Jays get smoked by KC in the divisional round.

You think one bullpen guy makes the Cubs that much better? If they got someone in a package thats one thing, but you're going to trade a top 10 prospect for one who might be a rental? The pen hasn't been great, but it was only last year they were the NL version of KC. Grimm, Ramirez, Strop, Rondon is pretty respectable if not sexy.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>It's been widely speculated that the Mets tried to get the Brewers to throw in cash for a portion of Gomez' 2016 salary. And, when they didn't, the Mets backed away citing concerns over his supposed hip condition. Seems entirely feasible that this has, once again, come down to the fact that the Wilpons are cheap.

I mean, the Astros refused to sign the #1 overall pick in the draft last year because of a concern of his medical history. But hey, Gomez passed their test with flying colors.</font>

[ClockShot]

Carlos Gomez and Mike Fiers to the Astros. No problem with his hip in Houston.

Response from the Mets fans:

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Totally feel your pain.

[ClockShot]

Supposedly Joe Girardi went all Martin Luther King Jr. and has a dream. A dream, that he'll have his own super utility player the likes of Ben Zobrist and BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRROCK Holt.

And that player, is one Dustin Ackley.

I don't get it. :?:

There's always tomorrow. Now that most of the main players are off the board, my request of a solid pitcher seems to be gone.

[DaveWadding]

I'd take Mike Leake for a similar package that brought Miguel Montero to Wrigley.

The Cubs got Miguel Montero for a bag of baseballs, a couple Malnati's pies and a slice of chocolate cake from Portillo's.

[Droford]

Tigers trying to blow a 7 run lead on the Orioles

[RP]

Apparently the Padres and Cubs are still working on something big. I don't think Starlin Castro will be a Cub tomorrow night.

[Damian Rey]

I sure hope he is. As a Padres fan, I want zero to do with him. Can't field, no power, doesn't get on base. No thanks. Especially considering his contract is only going to get more expensive. Think they're better off giving Baez a shot and hopes he hits 250 with a 300 obp to go along with awesome pop.

[Frank Drebin]

How'd that cubs pen do tonight, RP?

[Frank Drebin]

You'd be buying low on castro. He's been good in years past, but I'm all for him getting dealt. Always one step forward, one step back with him. Javier baez might be troy Glaus or jose cruz jr

[Damian Rey]

Castro is just below league average for his career, and even though he's still young, there's more than enough of a sample size for me to assume he is what he is. I personally feel he's been overrated because he's posted empty 300 batting averages with little pop and a lack of success at avoiding outs. He's never been more than 16% better than league average offensively, per ops+, and that year is sandwiched between two abysmal seasons. I'd be disappointed if he was acquired when Ross is seemingly in high demand.

As for Baez, if he routinely posted Jose Cruz Jr's career slash line he's an all-star at short.

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-cards="hidden" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING: Reds trade Mike Leake to Giants for two minor league pitchers. (via ESPN and Multiple reports) <a href="http://t.co/ZmK6rNQenh">pic.twitter.com/ZmK6rNQenh</a></p>&mdash; SportsCenter (@SportsCenter) <a href="https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/626976845330784256">July 31, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Yankees and Blue Jays were the other teams trying to get a deal for Leake done.

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The crowd reaction says it all (via <a href="https://twitter.com/TheCauldron">@TheCauldron</a>)
<a href="http://t.co/0LRXR0wc3I">http://t.co/0LRXR0wc3I</a>
<a href="https://t.co/H631adEiIc">https://t.co/H631adEiIc</a></p>&mdash; SB Nation (@SBNation) <a href="https://twitter.com/SBNation/status/626968710016839680">July 31, 2015</a></blockquote>
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[Frank Drebin]

Just fucking take Casro, Damian.

[screech]

Domonic Brown got picked off second by the catcher.

I hate watching him play so much. Someone just take him, please.

[Damian Rey]

Just fucking take Casro, Damian.

I DON'T WANNA!!!

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Fully expecting to hear about Wheeler for Bruce rumors until 4 PM. Sounds like the Reds want another piece added to the deal. So the Mets could wind up trading more for Bruce, who is nowhere near the fit for the team as Gomez. They already are too lefty-dominant, strikes out as much as Duda, would force Grandy to be miscast in CF, he costs more money, and he has awful home/away splits. He's an improvement but nothing that's going to transform the entire lineup.

At least I can admit that trading Wheeler won't cripple them even if the player they get back isn't great. Best case scenario he's back in June/July next year and on a tight innings cap in 2017 as are all young pitchers who get TJS. So you're looking at 2018 as the first year he might give you 200 innings, and he's a free agent after 2019.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>The media is fully prepared to LOLMets in almost any plausible scenario today:

A) They stand pat and do nothing. The affirms the belief to the fans that the Gomez deal fell apart due to money and that they don't truly think they can win in 2015.

B) They do the Bruce for Wheeler trade or something similar. While this eases the financial concerns of the team it will be painted as a total PR/panic move.

C) They trade for a Will Venable type of player, who will clearly help but compared to what could have been on Wednesday totally meets the "socks on Christmas" analogy compared to what could have been on Wednesday.</font>

[Emperor Smeat]

Possible trade deadline deals in the works the past few hours:

Red Sox-Padres currently in talks with Tyson Ross as the centerpiece for a deal.

Red Sox and Cubs both in talks with the Inidans Carlos Carrasco. Cubs likely the front runners while Red Sox see him more as a backup plan if the Ross deal fails.

Yanks, Red Sox, and Astros currently in talks with the Padres for Craig Kimbrel. Yanks currently the front runners with Jorge Mateo as the one the Padres want the most.

Orioles in talks with both the Brewers for Gerardo Parra and Phillies for Ben Revere.

[ClockShot]

Cubs get Dan Haren.

O's get Gerrardo Parra.

[Damian Rey]

Cue Droford with world series aspirations.

[Nicky Fives]

Jays land Ben Revere.

[Bad News Gertner]

ALL YOUR PLAYERS NOW BELONG TO US

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Deja vu. Mets/Reds talks of a Bruce for Wheeler swap that have been going on since last night have fallen apart over either medical concerns or money.

Never in my life have I seen an organization so inept.</font>

[screech]

ALL YOUR PLAYERS NOW BELONG TO US

Any word on who is coming this way?

[RP]

Cespedes to the Mets

[ClockShot]

Unless Cashman got a last minute play in the works, Yankees fans better be fucking scared right now.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>OH MY GODDDDDDDDDDDDDD</font> :love:

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Mets gave up Michael Fulmer and Luis Cessa, according to reports. Keeping Wheeler is a huge bonus.

Hate to lose Fulmer but you have to give something to get something, especially for a guy who will transform the lineup like Cespedes. I think RDD will love Fulmer before long. Dude is tearing up Double A. Needs to be added to the 40 this offseason to protect him from the Rule 5 draft.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I see the "pending medical review" tag still being thrown around.

Let's hope the Mets don't veto it because the circumference of Cespedes' left areola is bigger than his right or something.</font>

[screech]

lol areola

[Bad News Gertner]

Any word on who is coming this way?

Jimmy Cordero and Alberto Tirado. Both throw really hard, Cordero reaches 100 out of the pen. Tirado has a higher upside than Cordero who is 24 and just reached AAA

[ClockShot]

The dust has settled and Yankees are gonna promote Luis Severino. Really surprised nobody wanted him. Would have sent him to Detroit in a heartbeat for David Price.

They also cut Esmil Rogers loose so he can play in Korea. Whatever.

[DaveWadding]

Dan Haren is a plus get for the Cubs. He'll be way better than shitty fucking Jason Marquis.

[Damian Rey]

So fucking furious with the sorry ass Padres right now. Don't even have the fucking words.

[Droford]

Cue Droford with world series aspirations.

He's better than all the other of not named Adam Jones they've been using

I was shocked the Cubs took Tommy Hunter

[RoXer]

G Parra is my 3rd favorite Diamondback of all time

[Emperor Smeat]

:| Red Sox big trade today ended up being them adding another pitcher with throwing issues. Considering the problems this year, one would think that'd be the last thing they actually want.

A's traded Ryan Cook to them for a TBA player and/or cash.

[Frank Drebin]

Dan Haren is a plus get for the Cubs. He'll be way better than shitty fucking Jason Marquis.

So....angry.....at you.....right now:mad:

[road doggy dogg]

Ian krol worst baseballer of all time

[Droford]

Tigers bullpen sucks

[Bad News Gertner]

Wooo Jays walk off the Royals!

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>2 days after thinking he'd been traded and crying on the field, Wilmer Flores wins the game for the Mets with a 12th inning walkoff. Amazing.</font>

[Frank Drebin]

How'd that Cubs pen do today, RP?

[Droford]

Just wait til Tommy Hunter goes boom

[DaveWadding]

So....angry.....at you.....right now:mad:

Fuck Jason Marquis. Right in the ear.

[Frank Drebin]

You're dead to me, wadding

[DaveWadding]

Carlos Marmol >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason Marquis

[screech]

Jason Marquis sucked

[Frank Drebin]

So does the entire city of Phillidelphia

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[Frank Drebin]

Seriously now, wadding: Cubs signed Marquis to a 3/21 deal. He pitched 2 seasons for them and totaled 3.4 WAR. They paid him 13 mil and he was worth 20. Not bad for an innings eating 4th/5th starter. That's what Edwin Jackson was supposed to be.

He was "too expensive" for the last year of his deal so they shipped him to Colorado where, in the last year of that deal, he had a career year and was worth 3.4 WAR. That's a 21.4 mil value for a guy who was paid 8 mil.

He was exactly what he was supposed to be. Sometimes he was good, sometimes he was bad, but he took the hill every fifth day. Never put on the DL during that time. That's an ideal backend of the rotation starter.

[DaveWadding]

Seriously now, wadding: Cubs signed Marquis to a 3/21 deal. He pitched 2 seasons for them and totaled 3.4 WAR. They paid him 13 mil and he was worth 20. Not bad for an innings eating 4th/5th starter. That's what Edwin Jackson was supposed to be.

He was "too expensive" for the last year of his deal so they shipped him to Colorado where, in the last year of that deal, he had a career year and was worth 3.4 WAR. That's a 21.4 mil value for a guy who was paid 8 mil.

He was exactly what he was supposed to be. Sometimes he was good, sometimes he was bad, but he took the hill every fifth day. Never put on the DL during that time. That's an ideal backend of the rotation starter.


I can't believe you have such a hard on for someone who got paid $11 million dollars by the Cubs to be completely and totally average at his job. And whatever he did in Colorado has no bearing on my opinion of him.

[Damian Rey]

Think the point you're missing Dave is that being average is actually a good thing.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Average pay for an average player.

[DaveWadding]

Think the point you're missing Dave is that being average is actually a good thing.

I sure as shit wish I could get paid 11 million dollars over 2 years to just not suck.

[screech]

So in short, he basically sucked.

[Frank Drebin]

No. He was a slightly above average pitcher during his time with the Cubs. What else would a team want from a 4/5 starter? I mean, yes, every team should have Zach Greinke as their fourth starter but since that isn't possible you need someone else there to fill a role.

Look at it this way....they just got Dan Haren who they are praying is Marquis. They wanted a guy who will take the bump every five days and just hold his own. Haren is slightly above league average and that's all they wanted.

[screech]

Except I'd much rather have Haren than Marquis.

[screech]

Who does Marquis play for now, by the way? Surely some team out there needs an average starter (who sucks).

[Frank Drebin]

They're doing what they should be doing. Theo and Jed are all about timing the market to get best value. They're under no obligation to make a trade, so they're waiting while everyone else makes deals and will probably try to get the best value from whichever pitcher is left over from a team who wants to unload a guy for something. I'd take Mike Leake for a similar package that brought Miguel Montero to Wrigley.

......they stuck to their plan, btw.

[DaveWadding]

Who does Marquis play for now, by the way? Surely some team out there needs an average starter (who sucks).

He was in the majors with Cincy this year. 9 starts and a 6.46 ERA. :y:

[Frank Drebin]

Except I'd much rather have Haren than Marquis.

Since this isn't 2009, yeah I'll take haren over marquis. I'm arguing that a pitcher like marquis (which is Dan Haren in 2015) has value to a team at the back end of the rotation during the regular season. Marquis was never going to start a playoff game and neither will Haren if they get that far.

[Frank Drebin]

Glad to have a fun baseball argument and debate in this thread rather than a bunch of MLBTR bot posts.

*barfs on screech ' s head*

[DaveWadding]

Since this isn't 2009, yeah I'll take haren over marquis. I'm arguing that a pitcher like marquis (which is Dan Haren in 2015) has value to a team at the back end of the pen. Marquis was never going to start a playoff game and neither will Haren if they get that far.

um. Dan Haren was an ace in 2009. Jason Marquis was just Really Lucky Jason Marquis.

[DaveWadding]

Dan Haren was worth 6.5 WAR by himself in 2009. Marquis from 2007-2009 was worth 6.8 WAR in total.

[Frank Drebin]

Yes, you take that Dan Haren over Marquis in 09. Duh.

Again, the cubs, in 2015, needed a Jason Marquis type pitcher at the trade deadline. The reason I used Marquis as a comp was to describe to cub fans who remember him what kind of player they should expect to get at the deadline.

I'm not directly comparing the two in any way.

[Frank Drebin]

Uh oh...RP'S here.

"Dey shoudda got David Price and Cole Hamels for Starlin Castro and Jason Hammel. Dey suck now they'll never win aaaahhhhhhh"

[Frank Drebin]

*barfs on screech ' s radio microphone*

[screech]

I'm a bot because I'm telling you the truth about a pitcher you love for some reason? Look, I'm a fan of guys who aren't very good too, but I can at least admit that their bloated numbers have more to do with luck than talent.

[DaveWadding]

Yes, you take that Dan Haren over Marquis in 09. Duh.

Again, the cubs, in 2015, needed a Jason Marquis type pitcher at the trade deadline. The reason I used Marquis as a comp was to describe to cub fans who remember him what kind of player they should expect to get at the deadline.

I'm not directly comparing the two in any way.

Yes, and I remember that Jason Marquis sucked and Dan Haren does not. Therefore your comparison is invalid.

[Frank Drebin]

I'm a bot because I'm telling you the truth about a pitcher you love for some reason? Look, I'm a fan of guys who aren't very good too, but I can at least admit that their bloated numbers have more to do with luck than talent.

Dude, I'm just messing with you with the barf stuff since you're a Phills fan. C'mon.

Yes, and I remember that Jason Marquis sucked and Dan Haren does not. Therefore your comparison is invalid.

Dan Haren 2015 is Jason Marquis circa 2008 in terms of purpose, role and results.

Marquis in '08 had an FIP of 4.61, Haren's this year is 4.58. 15 Haren has a better K and BB rate than 08 Marquis, but Marquis got more groundballs and allowed way fewer homers. Haren has been worth 0.5 WAR this year and should finish with a WAR of 1.0-1.3, while 08 Marquis had a WAR of 1.8 (Marquis pitched 167 innings, Haren has pitched 129 so far and should get another 50-60).

Both 08 Marquis and 15 Haren are flawed but both have wound up with similar results at the end of the day.

[DaveWadding]

I have always seen your point. And it's basically valid, but Jason Marquis still sucks. You could have just said 2009 Rich Harden and I would have been okay with that. LOL

[Frank Drebin]

Argh...fucking wadding.....I'm going to train your class to not do their homework. You'll carefully and thoughtfully explain why it's necessary, then they'll just respond with "it sucks"

[Frank Drebin]

*barfs in screech ' s backpack*

[DaveWadding]

I get it, Jason Marquis tongued your balls in a Wrigley Field bathroom in 2007.

[Damian Rey]

I understand you Frank.

[Droford]

Parra and JJ hardy both have 15 game hitting streaks going

[Droford]

Os beat the Tigers again

[Shisen Kopf]

Would love to talk baseball but I gotta go wash my hair!

[Emperor Smeat]

:D Larry Lucchino getting demoted by the Red Sox.

Hated that guy ever since he played a huge role why Theo Epstein suddenly left the team as GM. Outside of Chicken-gate, he's been a big source of the problems the Sox have had over the past few years.

Good guy to have when it comes to building up a team/organization but becomes a huge headache once he gets too hands-on or refuses to concede power to other people.

[screech]

Phillies give the Braves a good Screech Around™ :y:

[Frank Drebin]

http://www.tpwwforums.com/customavatars/avatar12849_2.gifCant stop thinking:https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/af/cc/0a/afcc0af29d15da547182ddba767308ac.gif

[Emperor Smeat]

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Wonder if his beard is related to Brian Wilson's beard. Both majestic in appearance and like Wilson's beard at the time, already in playoff-ready mode.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Red Sox trying not to be last.

[Bad News Gertner]

Fucking Mark Lowe

[Damian Rey]

Now that I'm finally down to a stable blood pressure I can now objectively comment on the lack of movement from the Padres at the deadline.

I honestly don't get it. For four months, this team has underperformed. They've played below 500 after a 10-5 start. Injuries have exposed the lack of depth created after pillaging the farm system in the off season. Even then, the Padres had an envious amount of valuable talent in which they could move to restock the farm and possibly reload the major league team.

Instead they sat on their hands, making zero high profile moves. Industry insiders claim that gm Preller was asking for way too much in return, and that, as confirmed later on by the team in an attempt to spin the non movement, belief that the club can still win out.

So they foolishly think a club who's been losing for 60% of the season can still turn it around? Great. Why didn't they bother to add top big club? You mean to tell me there were no deals available to add a shortstop, second baseman, third baseman or centerfielder? None?

And even then,the daft thinking behind their belief brings great fear of what the future holds for this ballclub. The Padres are losing one starting pitcher to free agency in each of the next three offseasons. Ian Kennedy this fall, Andrew Cashner the next, and Tyson Ross after 2017. No, none of those guys are true difference makers, but they're quality, Ross and Cashner more so, 2 to 4 starters who have real value and whom the Padres have no prospects to replace when they depart. They can soften the blow by exploiting this year's pitching market in the offseason, since the market will be heavily overcrowded with arms. But with so much money tied into Kemp, Shields, Kimbrel, Gyorko and Melvin Upton's corpse, does a mid market team really have the financial resources to replace two or more starting pitchers? Maybe they could move some names in the offseason, but the Padres biggest trade strength is their pitching. Teams are less likely to give up quality in a trade if they can acquire comparable valuable via free agency while keeping their farm system in tact.

The even bigger issue is the everyday lineup. The Padres, as I stated, lack 4 everyday regulars going into next year as well as right now. 2 of those, center and short, are two of the three most important positions on the diamond. They couldn't have flipped anybody to at least nab some league average regulars to plug in there this year or next? Even more than the pitching, there's a giant, gaping hole in the lineup with no readily, realistically available fix in sight. Teams aren't going to be so willing and desperate in the offseason when everybody is on the market scouring for talent. The deadline was a prime opportunity for Preller to expose other teams' willingness to overpay for rentals and Preller missed the boat.

My biggest gripe here is the rumor Preller overpriced his available talent. I get the idea is to ask for the moon and settle for less. But to be so daft as to think you have complete bargaining power despite other teams,like the Tigers, A's etc, having similar or better goods they openly wanted to move is a gross overestimating of the actual talent of your roster and a clear overconfidence in oneself. I believe whole heartedly Preller is buying into his own hype as this rock star, mad man gm who can swing any move at any time. Apparently not. And by sitting on his ass as July 31 came and went, he's left with, worst case scenario, a 1st round draft pick for Upton in God know what slot, best case scenario, waiver wire August deals that will likely net far less value as well as limit the market since any team,in contention or not, can claim a player with no intention of acquiring them or working out a deal.

I miss Jed Hoyer honestly. He has the nads to admit his teams aren't built for the postseason and tears down and moves assets accordingly. My team's gm would rather deny defeat and push the team into further mediocrity for another handful of years.

Oh to be a Padres fan.

[Sepholio]

A Padres fan. More like the ex-Braves.

I WANT THEM ALL BACK.

:'( ATL

[Damian Rey]

You can have them. I'll take back Maybin, Peterson and Wisler thank you

[ClockShot]

I think A.J. Preller is gonna get canned after 1 season, Damian. That's just my thought on that.

YOU CAN'T spend all that money, make all those trades, fire the manager, and at the trade deadline, blow everyone off and don't do anything. And tell local sports radio the next day that you think the Padres are gonna go all the way. And there were teams that were offering their top guys for Kimbrel, Upton, and maybe even Shields.

If you're gonna take a page out of the George Steinbrenner Book of Running a Baseball Team, you better be damn sure you deliver a team that will give you a World Series that year.

[Damian Rey]

The Yankees were gonna give up their top shortstop prospect, Jose Mateo, and take on Craig Kimbrel and Jedd Gyorko. That's damn near $20 mil for next year at the least.

You HAVE to make that deal.

Preller won't get canned. Ownership ran Josh Byrnes,a solid gm, out of town,then fired Bud Black, all while pushing for big name trades and increasing payroll. Preller is their man. His firing would be ownership admitting fault in telling a once hot to trot gm candidate to tear down the team. They're too proud and pompous to do that.

They've been saying they believe in the team since early June.

[DaveWadding]

Josh Byrnes is not a solid GM.

[Bad News Gertner]

Woooo Jays win 3 of 4 against K.C.

[road doggy dogg]

Os beat the Tigers again

Hi

[Damian Rey]

Josh Byrnes is not a solid GM.

He was in San Diego. The only trade I hated was moving Rizzo. Beyond that,he acquired quite a bit of talent without giving up much. Yasmani Grandal, Yonder Alonso and Brad Boxberger are all above average major leaguers on the cheap,two of which all-star players, all of whom acquired for Mat Latos. He traded a couple of career minor leaguers for above average starter Tyson Ross. Boxberger went to Tampa for Jesse Hahn, a young, cheap above average starter. His front office team also continued to draft extremely well which helped facilitate many of the moves Preller executed in the offseason.

The only black eye is the Rizzo trade. Beyond that he did a whole of good and got canned for his troubles.

[ClockShot]

6-4 road trip for the Yankees. Not bad.

Hype machine is full swing for the arrival of Severino.

[Frank Drebin]

He was in San Diego. The only trade I hated was moving Rizzo. Beyond that,he acquired quite a bit of talent without giving up much. Yasmani Grandal, Yonder Alonso and Brad Boxberger are all above average major leaguers on the cheap,two of which all-star players, all of whom acquired for Mat Latos. He traded a couple of career minor leaguers for above average starter Tyson Ross. Boxberger went to Tampa for Jesse Hahn, a young, cheap above average starter. His front office team also continued to draft extremely well which helped facilitate many of the moves Preller executed in the offseason.

The only black eye is the Rizzo trade. Beyond that he did a whole of good and got canned for his troubles.

Josh Byrnes sucks

[screech]

Been reading that the Cubs are interested in Chase Utley. I wonder if they would take Domonic Brown too.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Wednesday: Flores cries on the field, Gomez trade axed due to medicals leading to a media circus and every Mets fan just feeling completely miserable the next day

Thursday: Mets suffer their worst loss of the season, having the game halted due to rain 1 out away from winning only for the game to resume and they blow it

Friday: Trade for Cespedes minutes before the deadline, Flores drives in both runs that night including a 12 inning walkoff HR

Saturday: Mets win again, Duda drives in all 3 runs including 2 HR (making it 8 HR in a 7 game span)

Sunday: Duda homers again (9 HR in 8 games), Syndergaard's 109th and final pitch of the evening blows away Harper at 99 MPH, Mets sweep the Nats for the first time since 2009 and they go into a virtual tie for first place in the NL East

WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON THIS WEEK???</font> :love:

[Frank Drebin]

Been reading that the Cubs are interested in Chase Utley. I wonder if they would take Domonic Brown too.

Do you want Starlin Castro? Will throw in Taylor Teagarden

[DaveWadding]

<font color=goldenrod>Wednesday: Flores cries on the field, Gomez trade axed due to medicals leading to a media circus and every Mets fan just feeling completely miserable the next day

Thursday: Mets suffer their worst loss of the season, having the game halted due to rain 1 out away from winning only for the game to resume and they blow it

Friday: Trade for Cespedes minutes before the deadline, Flores drives in both runs that night including a 12 inning walkoff HR

Saturday: Mets win again, Duda drives in all 3 runs including 2 HR (making it 8 HR in a 7 game span)

Sunday: Duda homers again (9 HR in 8 games), Syndergaard's 109th and final pitch of the evening blows away Harper at 99 MPH, Mets sweep the Nats for the first time since 2009 and they go into a virtual tie for first place in the NL East

WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON THIS WEEK???</font> :love:

Setting you up for your inevitable "Beltran strikes out looking" moment.

[Damian Rey]

Josh Byrnes sucks

You should be praising Byrnes for essentially handing over Rizzo while receiving virtually nothing in return. Every time I see Rizzo I think of how handsome he looked in a Padres uni. Ugh.

[Emperor Smeat]

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[screech]

Do you want Starlin Castro? Will throw in Taylor Teagarden

I will take Starlin Castro and give the Cubs an Applebees gift card if they take Dom Brown.

[Droford]

Hi

Won the season series 4-3

[Frank Drebin]

I will take Starlin Castro and give the Cubs an Applebees gift card if they take Dom Brown.

Hmmmm.....how much is the gift card worth?

[screech]

I'll let you know when the GoFundMe is done.

[Bad News Gertner]

So that David Price is pretty good

[road doggy dogg]

Won the season series 4-3

you lost 3 games against the Tigers

[StuartFinnigan]

bluejays just a lot better with theur recent trades. I think they're a good bet to make the wildcard.

[Bad News Gertner]

I agree Stuart Finnigan

[road doggy dogg]

#StuartFinnigan #HotStove

[Damian Rey]

Fair point. Tulo is an upgrade on both sides of the ball over Reyes, and Price is, well, David Price.

I shutter thinking about how the Jays have arguably the best left side of the infield. I mean, Jesus

[StuartFinnigan]

Man Jays haven't been in the playoffs in over 20 years. Would be nice if they got in again but it won't be easy.

[Droford]

Counterpoint

Fuck the blue jays. I hope the Os play them in the wild card game, or better yet I hope the Yankees have to play them.

[Damian Rey]

Dave Dombrowski relieved as gm. Al Avila takes over. Wonder if it was mutual. Guy turned that organization around.

[road doggy dogg]

great, now we'll never trade Alex

[ClockShot]

Dave Dombrowski relieved as gm. Al Avila takes over. Wonder if it was mutual. Guy turned that organization around.

Dave's contract was up at the end of the season. This is probably language/jargon saying "You won't becoming back".

[Bad News Gertner]

Dave Dombrowski relieved as gm. Al Avila takes over. Wonder if it was mutual. Guy turned that organization around.

It helps when the owner finally spends money and the rest of the division belonged in AAA for 3/4 of his tenure.

[Bad News Gertner]

Apparently the final straw was Mike Illitch didn't want the team to sell at the trade deadline, but Dave did anyways.

[Emperor Smeat]

Dave Dombrowski relieved as gm. Al Avila takes over. Wonder if it was mutual. Guy turned that organization around.

Mariners and Blue Jays currently the front runners to sign him according to Peter Gammons. If he signs with the Blue Jays, it would be for the president role.

Red Sox were rumored to be a possible choice as well but the team has no desire to make an offer for him. Same as the Blue Jays in being rumored as a possible candidate for their vacant president spot.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I can't say I'm too surprised to see Dombrowski get canned. When you get Illitch to open the wallet to the degree he has and you don't win a title, it's only a matter of time before the hammer drops. And since he effectively waved the white flag by dealing Price and Cespedes to rebuild, Illitch wanted to rebuild the front office too.

At this moment it'd be tough for Tigers fans to not have fond memories of him. When he took over they were a total laughing stock, but he molded them into a perennial contender from 2006 until this year. I'm sure he'll be viewed less favorably in a few years when the Cabrera, Verlander, and V-Mart contracts cripple the team but for right now I can see why teams would be jumping to hire him.</font>

[ClockShot]

Dombrowski would probably want GM control.

Angels sent DiPoto packing a month ago. Might be a good place for him to land.

[Bad News Gertner]

Tulowitzki and Donaldson both with home runs already. Fuck ya,

[Damian Rey]

Dombrowski won't fit in with the Angels as long as Scioscia is there. Scioscia runs the team and is the reason DiPoto walked. Blue Jays seem like a great fix. They draft incredibly well, have the money to make big time deals and their ownership group is seemingly patient enough

The playoffs are such a crap shoot. The Tigers made two world series, dominated their division, hosed the Marlins for one of the best hitters of all time, and were a legitimate powerhouse regardless of what division they played in. Memories of him should be nothing but fond to this point.

[Frank Drebin]

If Trout is #1....Who is the 2nd best player in Baseball?

[Damian Rey]

I think Bryce Harper has a currently compelling case. McCutchen has got to be right there as well.

[Damian Rey]

If Tulo could average 150 games, he could be legitimately up there as well.

[DaveWadding]

GOLDSCHMIDT

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I'd have to go with Harper as the 2nd best player. Legitimate 5 tool guy. Since he's on the biggest rival of my favorite team I have extra incentive to hate him, but I can't deny his talents.

Only thing that drives me mad about him are his constant ejections for arguing balls and strikes. When he throws temper tantrums like that you can definitely tell that he's a kid who was used to getting his way being coddled from a very young age when he was owning high school ball.</font>

[Bad News Gertner]

Woooo Jays win again!

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>If the Mets don't win the World Series in 2015, the Jays would be my second preference. Their lineup is insane, Price is always a joy to watch, and I'll always love R.A. Dickey so would be cool with him getting a ring. Definitely a team that would be fun to watch in October. Plus I love the idea of a team actually being rewarded for going balls out at the deadline.</font>

[Bad News Gertner]

Marco Estrada has been pitching his balls off. If only Hutchison were even decent...ugh.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Mets make a post-deadline deal and acquire LHP Eric O'Flaherty for a PTBNL. The better news...Alex Torres designated for assignment to make room for him. Thank christ.

O'Flaherty's ERA is nearly 6 but nearly all the damage came against RHB. He's got a pretty dominant slash line against LHB. As long as Collins only has him face lefties like he should, he'll be great. And he's an automatic upgrade seeing as Torres wasn't usable against ANYBODY.</font>

[Emperor Smeat]

Decent debut for Henry Owens in his Red Sox debut.

Bullpen stunk as usual. Took a close and possible winnable game into a blowout win for the Yanks once Owens left.

[Frank Drebin]

Where's RP to bitch about the Cubs?

Where's ruien to talk about how close the white Sox are to the playoffs?

[Damian Rey]

Wait, Vito. I'm confused. Torres has a 3.20 era and a 120 era+. He's seemingly an at least decent option in terms of run prevention. His FIP is fucking brutal but still, I don't get why you'd want him gone so badly.

[Emperor Smeat]

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:lol: at how it happened and the bench reaction to it.

[Frank Drebin]

I wonder if droford still is cool with not having jake arietta

[Ruien]

Where's RP to bitch about the Cubs?

Where's ruien to talk about how close the white Sox are to the playoffs?

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

How far out are the Sox? 3 games? We still got this!

Not really. Fuck Toronto.

[Evil Vito]

Wait, Vito. I'm confused. Torres has a 3.20 era and a 120 era+. He's seemingly an at least decent option in terms of run prevention. His FIP is fucking brutal but still, I don't get why you'd want him gone so badly.

<font color=goldenrod>26 walks in 34.1 innings. And if you look at his game log you'll see that after the first month of the season he almost never had a clean appearance where he didn't allow a baserunner via either a hit or a walk.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/gamelog/_/id/31125/alex-torres

He basically became the guy who can only be used in blowouts. Let someone else take him. Good riddance.</font>

[Frank Drebin]

A Victoria's Secret model is in the White Sox booth to pimp some new MLB clothing line for women.

1) Nothing like trying to sell shirts and jerseys to women by having the person selling it be a 23 year old size 0.

2) Thank God they had Steve Stone talk to her exclusively and left Hawk on the sidelines for that interview. Ron Santo "interviewing" Denise Richards awhile back was brutal.

[ClockShot]

Severino time, kids.

[Emperor Smeat]

Rays signed Daniel Nava from waivers.

[Damian Rey]

Brandon Morrow probably needs season ending shoulder surgery. Not surprising though it sucks since he was their best starter before getting hurt.

[Bad News Gertner]

Twins put up 3 in the first and the Jays go and put up 2 in the second off a Donaldson Home Run and 4 in the second off a Bautista Bomb grand slam in the second.


I love this team.

[Bad News Gertner]

Except for Drew Hutchison. Good God. Encarnacion with a three run jack! Three Jays now have 20 or more home runs.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Mets took a 8-0 lead into the 9th against the hapless Marlins and are about to blow it.

Losing this would pretty much kill any hope I've built over the last week. At the end of the day, they're still the Mets.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>And somehow, they hang on. Mother of fuck. WFAN would have had a field day tomorrow if they had blown it.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>O'Flaherty gave up 4 runs in 2/3 of an inning, including 3 hits to lefties. So much for being excited about that acquisition lol.</font>

[Bad News Gertner]

42 year old Latroy Hawkins gets the save.

Lol Drew Hutchison is now 10-2 with a 5.42 ERA. Incredible,

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Wonder what the over/under is on total runs scored during the next Yanks/Jays series.</font>

[Bad News Gertner]

Lol well Hutchison isn't pitching so that should shave 8 runs off the total. I don't think 50 runs total is out of the question in that series.

That series is going to be ridiculous, especially in that ballpark.

[screech]

Latroy motherfuckin Hawkins

[Skippord]

L TRAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIN

[Skippord]

:(

[ClockShot]

Red Sox send out Tim Wakefield Jr. AKA Steve Wright last night, goes 8 strong innings, and completely stumps the Yankees.

Solid outing by Severino last night. Too bad the Yankees couldn't hit a lick and get him a win.

[Bad News Gertner]

Marcus Stroman might actually be back by September. Amazing.

[road doggy dogg]

Tigers took a game from KC. KC is not a World Series team (based on this one fact)

[Damian Rey]

HOLY SHIT IT'S SKIPPORD!

You handsome bastard, where have you been? Are dead inside now that Gertner gets to call Tulo a Blue Jay?

[Emperor Smeat]

Red Sox send out Tim Wakefield Jr. AKA Steve Wright last night, goes 8 strong innings, and completely stumps the Yankees.

Solid outing by Severino last night. Too bad the Yankees couldn't hit a lick and get him a win.

Taken a long time but he's slowly finding his groove with the Knuckleball pitch. They still need a Doug Mirabelli type specialist since the catchers they have now are really hit or miss with catching it.

NESN thinks he's slowly getting to Ace status with rotation which also shows how abysmal the starters have been this season overall.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Talking about Hawkins caused me to look up how many players who debuted in the big leagues in the 90s are still officially active. Tough to determine the official number given that there are still old-ass players who are free agents but haven't formally retired yet.

But it seems likely that it will dwindle down to the single digits by next year given that Hawkins, Hudson, Aramis, and Burnett have already said they are done after 2015. A guy like Nathan probably won't be returning from major surgery at his age. Hunter hasn't ruled out continuing his career into 2016 but returning to the Twins felt like such a "victory lap" type of thing to do. Pierzynski has been shockingly good this year and should easily find work in 2016 if he wants it, but catching at nearly 40 years old isn't exactly something anybody can pull off.

Probably easier to figure out who still will be playing next year. A-Rod of course has 2 years left on his deal, and if he stays as good as he's been this year he might stick around another year past that to clinch the HR record. Beltre has another year under contract. Big Papi has heated up in the last month or so and has 2 more option years, hard to imagine Boston not having him back if he wants to keep playing. Colon has said he wants to keep going.

Of the group Beltre easily seems like the best bet to keep playing into 2020 assuming his body holds up. He'd only be 41 during 2020, so if he can keep swinging the bat like he has now he could extend his career as a DH if he wanted. Would be pretty awesome to have someone play a 4th decade in the big leagues. Jesse Orosco narrowly outlasted Rickey Henderson in the 70s-to-00s group. Omar Vizquel was the last man standing in the 80s-to-10s.</font>

[road doggy dogg]

Omar could still play today dammit

Hell in 2012 (before we got Iglesias) he teased suiting up at SS for the Tigers

[Damian Rey]

Vizquel ops+'d 50 his last season. He definitely retired at the right time.

[Evil Vito]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Major_League_Baseball_players_who_played_in_four_decades

<font color=goldenrod>There are actually more 4-decade players than I realized, although they're understandably becoming rarer and rarer. Beltre is definitely the 90's best (and possibly only realistic) hope to add another one to the list.

:lol: @ the 5 decade players. Shame that probably won't ever happen again since 40-man roster spots aren't likely to be used on publicity stunts at this point. Otherwise, Julio Franco almost definitely would have gotten that honor. He still plays in Japan at 56 years old.</font>

[road doggy dogg]

hahahaha fuck you KC

fuck youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

Chris Pratt wins

[Bad News Gertner]

Jays offence is ridiculous

[Emperor Smeat]

Mike Napoli returning to the Rangers after a trade between them and the Red Sox. Happened right before tonight's Sox-Tigers game.

Rangers get Mike Napoli and cash while Red Sox get a TBA player.

[Frank Drebin]

Scott Podsenick is in the booth with Hawk tonight. Didn't think a sox broadcast could be worse. Pods is just sucking Hawks dick and mumbling. Half an inning spent comparing Hawk to Mickey Mantle.

[DaveWadding]

he's mumbling because his mouth is full of Hawk's dick.

[Damian Rey]

Good ol' Scotty Pods

[Bad News Gertner]

Jose fucking Bautista!!!!!

[ClockShot]

Hmph. Shut out by the Blue Jays today.

Girardi and Cashman better have all the right answers Monday morning if we get swept.

[ClockShot]

Indians send Nick Swisher, Michael Bourn, and a bag of cash to the Braves for Chris Johnson.

[RP]

Roll Cubs Roll!

[Frank Drebin]

Where's the Fraze at?