MLB Thread

[Damian Rey 2.0]

They didn't

[Evil Vito]

Fuck Brandon Phillips. If the dude had accepted the trade to the Nats last offseason, he'd have been on a winning team AND my Mets wouldn't have spent the whole season getting ass fucked by Daniel Murphy.

[Evil Vito]

The Twitter beef between Noah Syndergaard and Mr. Met is nothing short of amazing.

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[Damian Rey 2.0]

Lmao that's amazing hahaha.

[Nicky Fives]

Blue Jays are now Latos intolerant, signing Mat Latos to a minor league deal.

[ClockShot]

Update to the potential Marlins sale as it turns out Jeffrey Loria might be Trump's pick for Ambassador of France.

If that happens, the Kushners will not make a bid so there won't be any controversy.

[Droford]

Amusing the biggest news the Cubs have so far is the bullpens are moving off the field at Wrigley

[ClockShot]

Nick Swisher calls it a career. Gonna join FOX as an analyst.

One of the better personalities in the game.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

His wife is hot af.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Padres sign Jered Weaver to one year, $3 million deal. If they were gonna sign a washed up ace with declining velocity, I'd have preferred Jake Peavy.

[Emperor Smeat]

Sox recently added more pitching depth after signing a deal with Mexican League pitcher Hector Velazquez

Red Sox have purchased contract of 28-year-old right-hander Hector Velazquez, who had 2.47 ERA and 120 strikeouts in 131.1 innings last year for Monclova in Mexican League. The deal is pending a physical.

[Evil Vito]

It rarely works out to the two best teams record wise actually getting into the World Series due to the overall randomness of the playoffs - but the Cubs and Red Sox really do seem to be in a tier of their own ahead of some other really good teams.

[Droford]

Guaranteed the Red Sox will not win the AL East

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Guaranteed the Red Sox will not win the AL East

By saying this you guaranteed that they will. Thanks broford.

[Droford]

No I'm not being a jinx so far this year in fact I came fairly close to predicting the score of the SB..

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Shut up Droford. You have zero objective method to even insinuate the Red Sox aren't the best team in the division. The only player on your team better the anybody on the Red Sox is future Yankee Manny Machado

[Droford]

Chris Davis .221/.332/.459 with 38 hr is better than Mitch Mooreland .238/.298/.422 with 22 hr

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I guess I'll give you that. Boston is still better.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

wow

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Boston wins because Chris Davis hits .221 and is better than Mitch Mooreland. Never mind the influx of Cy Young calibre pitchers in Boston's starting rotation and tremendous hitting starting line up.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

That's besides the point, Dale.

[Evil Vito]

Droford's complete inability to be objective is hilarious

[Droford]

We'll just see what happens

[Droford]

Orioles traded for Vidal Nuno from the Dodgers .

He's a former starter he started 28 games a couple years ago..

[Ruien]

He's way better than Chris Sale.

[Droford]

Apples to oranges considering he's going to be a lefty long reliever

I suppose I should just mention as well the Orioles bullpen is superior to the Red Sox bullpen.

Enjoy your awesome starters pitching only to have Francisco Abad who was so bad after they got him he wasn't on their playoff roster come in and give up the game.

[Emperor Smeat]

Nationals signed Matt Wieters to a 2 year, $21 million deal.

[Evil Vito]

Intentional walks are a thing of the past.

Now you just hit a button in the dugout and the runner automatically trots to first.

[ClockShot]

Score one more rule change for Commissioner Manfred.

[screech]

Finally

[Droford]

Nationals signed Matt Wieters to a 2 year, $21 million deal.

My opinion is In gonna miss him but he isn't worth that kind of money. The TJ surgery ruined him

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Finally

Terrible change. The risk of screwing it up has to be there. Boo this. Boo I say.

[road doggy dogg]

I feel dirty agreeing with STD (filthy Sox fan) but I hate this change too. But life goes on and ultimately it doesn't really affect anything dramatically.

[Emperor Smeat]

Like the decision since outside of rare occasions, the end result is always the same. Might as well let pitchers save those 4 pitches for later or more important situations. MLB doesn't really save that much time overall but pitchers get to save a bit of their arm for games.

Think it might have been Busty Olney recently who said the amount of times that play gets contested every season is tiny. Like around 4 times or so where it gets botched or doesn't result in an auto-walk.

[Lock Jaw]

Like the decision since outside of rare occasions, the end result is always the same. Might as well let pitchers save those 4 pitches for later or more important situations.

I always saw those 4 pitches as part of the "exchange"...... you want to intentionally walk the guy, fine, but you will be "using up" 4 pitches that you could have used "later" or "more important situations"........

[Lock Jaw]

But life goes on, and ultimately it doesn't really affect anything dramatically.

[road doggy dogg]

That's quite the hot take you have there

[screech]

Terrible change. The risk of screwing it up has to be there. Boo this. Boo I say.

lolwhat

Meaningless to waste four pitches when the outcome is rarely anything other than a free pass. Keeping it just for "the risk" is dumb.

[poopfromweiner dude]

I know major leaguers don't just "lob them in" on the intentional, but is it really wasting pitches

[Nicky Fives]

My opinion is In gonna miss him but he isn't worth that kind of money. The TJ surgery ruined him

I originally wanted him with the Jays, but definitely not for this kind of money.... way more than I thought he would get....

[Droford]

Axe Bat will be the next big thing in baseball (http://www.popsci.com/how-an-axe-handled-bat-is-going-to-take-over-baseball)

The magazine article im reading focused on Dustin Pedroia using an axe bat last year he hit .335 in 422 Axe Bat ABs vs .289 in 276 regular bat AB (and his 11 for 11 streak was using an Axe Bat). The Pop Sci article said Mollie Betts started using it last year too...

Only Oriole I know of using one is Hyun Soo Kim

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Mookie! If you can get some Korean name right you can get that right!

[road doggy dogg]

the name Mookie just sounds inherently racist idk

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

lol wut

[road doggy dogg]

It sounds like a racial slur, is what I was getting it.

[Nicky Fives]

Spearchucker Betts.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

It sounds like a racial slur, is what I was getting it.

that is just crazy

[Lock Jaw]

Poo holes

[road doggy dogg]

have v fond memories of obnoxiously yelling POO-HOLES at a bar while drinking fishbowls and he was up @ bat

v good times

[Droford]

Boston already losing 3-0 and no hit thru 4

[road doggy dogg]

how's ol' Spearchucker doing

is he playing

[Droford]

Its very annoying the Os are playing and no way to watch or listen

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

lol Droford getting into spring training games thinking they represent anything that'll happen in the regular season.

[road doggy dogg]

Its very annoying the Os are playing and no way to watch or listen

game is on At-Bat app (radio only)

[Droford]

Lol red Sox getting no hit on 1st day of ST

[Droford]

game is on At-Bat app (radio only)

I have XM and even though the game is on detroit radio its not on XM

Actually..it is on xm online

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Lol red Sox getting no hit on 1st day of ST

lol you still thinking Spring Training games mean a shit.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Lol red Sox getting no hit on 1st day of ST

Game is so important NESN is airing a 2-hr Replay of a Bruins Game.

[ClockShot]

Baby Bombers looking great their first time out.

All I need is YES back on the air, and I'm set.

[Droford]

The Red Sox are in last place..lol better get used to it

[Evil Vito]

The Mets very nearly batted around without putting a ball in play. 6 walks, 2 strikeouts.

[road doggy dogg]

Is Delabar pitching?

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

The Red Sox are in last place..lol better get used to it

Do not speak of records in Spring Training again.

[DaveWadding]

The 2016 World Champion Chicago Cubs

[DaveWadding]

Still doesn't seem real to me, even though I'm wearing my Champions tshirt right now.

[DaveWadding]

Like it was all a dream

used to read Word Up magazine

[Droford]

Do not speak of records in Spring Training again.

Why

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Because it means nothing? Useless as any of your Droford Stats.

[Droford]

The Orioles lost their first 14 spring games last year it feels good they're 2-1

[Ruien]

Didn't the White Sox win spring training last year? Suck it.

[Droford]

MASN is repairing 6/30/09 game vs the Red Sox as the 6th greatest game in Oriole Parks 24 years.

Its currently 9-1 Red Sox in the bottom of the 6th..

[Droford]

QCErdzE2iG0

One of the craziest gamed I remember seeing

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

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[Droford]

That was 5-0 not 10-1

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Yeah but it was all in the 9th. There was nothing in the 9th in your game.

[Droford]

Yes cause the os scored 5 in the 7th and 5 in the 8th.

[Droford]

Very next day Red Sox scored 4 in the 9th to win 6-5..uhg

[Droford]

I know game 162 has to be in the top 5 Oriole Park games..it was better than this game. Its like the moment you can point at ad the turnaround for the Orioles franchise..

[Ruien]

Turn around? Huh?

[Droford]

1998 to 2011 orioles 14 straight losing seasons

Haven't had one since. Game 162 was the last game of 2011 knocking the Red Sox out if the playoffs.

And clearly hiring Buck in the middle of 2011 was the turnaround point but they were still bad in 2011

[Ruien]

Oh. Didn't know being a decent team was considered a turn around. My bad.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Lol turn around. They haven't done anything of significance. Making a few wildcard games and one round playoff appearances isn't a "turn around".

The Cubs had a franchise turn around. Even Cleveland. Toronto has had more of a turn around than Baltimore and their cameo playoff appearances

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

The Orioles lost their first 14 spring games last year it feels good they're 2-1

what the fuck is wrong with you

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I guess the Orioles are on their way to the pre season world series championship

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Lol turn around. They haven't done anything of significance. Making a few wildcard games and one round playoff appearances isn't a "turn around".

The Cubs had a franchise turn around. Even Cleveland. Toronto has had more of a turn around than Baltimore and their cameo playoff appearances

Jays went from barely getting 15-20000 a game to averaging like 40 thou plus a game.

unfortunately if they're poo this year that attendance is plummeting. Toronto is a fickle fan base.

[Evil Vito]

At a certain point I just accept it's best to block Droford for a bit instead of just seeing the constant bickering nonstop. We all know he's an idiot.

[Evil Vito]

David Wright won't be able to throw a baseball for weeks.

He looked done last year and now it seems even more apparent. :(

[Droford]

Lol turn around. They haven't done anything of significance. Making a few wildcard games and one round playoff appearances isn't a "turn around".

The Cubs had a franchise turn around. Even Cleveland. Toronto has had more of a turn around than Baltimore and their cameo playoff appearances
5 straight winning seasons after 14 straight losing seasons is the fucking literal definition of a turn around. Hell from 2007 to 2011 they never won more than 69 games and from 2012 to 2016 they've never won fewer than 81.

[Droford]

Lol turn around. They haven't done anything of significance. Making a few wildcard games and one round playoff appearances isn't a "turn around".

The Cubs had a franchise turn around. Even Cleveland. Toronto has had more of a turn around than Baltimore and their cameo playoff appearances

The Orioles won 3 more games in 14 when they won the AL East than the a blue Jays team that won it in 15. Also just in the past 5 years the Orioles have a better record (424 wins vs 415) than the Jays and made the playoffs 3 times vs the Jays 2. But whatever the Blue Jays are clearly better than the tram that has more wins than every team in the American League since 2012. Boston is clearly better cause they won a world series despite the fact they've also finished LAST 3 out of 5 years.

[Evil Vito]

This thread is fucking dreadful.

Might be time for a Casual MLB Thread

[Ruien]

Droford is 20 times worse with baseball then football.

[Droford]

I would be amazed if Trumbo hit over 30.....

Wait wait wait ...you think he's gonna do well based on 58 games worth of at bats? Really?

I'll ask a better question. What had Trumbo done since his first full season that would lead one to believe he's going to get better instead of being the same boom or bust out machine or declining?

Well he missed half of 2014 with a fractured foot..

Plus he hits pretty well in AL East ballparks (ironically not Camden Yards though )
Camden Yards (10 games): 7-for-35, 1 HR, 3 RBIs, .200 avg., .256 OBP, .343 slugging
Fenway Park (10 games): 12-for-40, 3 HR, 12 RBI, .300 avg., .375 OBP, .550 slugging
Yankee Stadium (15 games): 13-for-53, 4 HR, 7 RBI, .245 avg., .322 OBP, .491 slugging
Tropicana Field (9 games): 10-for-33, 2 HR, 7 RBI, .303 avg., .303 OBP, .545 slugging
Rogers Centre (14 games): 16-for-55, 6 HR, 15 RBI, .291 avg., .298 OBP, .727 slugging

Theres no reason his Camden numbers continue to be that bad over a full season.

Davis / Jones / Machado / Trumbo should all hit above 30 HR.

I said Trumbo, not Davis.... I'd put money on Trumbo and the under, but no interest in betting Davis either way....

He hit .254/.354/.550 at camden yards with 25 hr. His home road splits were near identical save for the fact his OBP was higher at home from more walks.

Was reading back in the thread. This stood out as proof to me none of you know anything. But again whatever I'm just a blind homer that knows nothing

[Damian Rey 2.0]

2015
262/310/449 107 ops+ 1.6 WAR

2016
256/316/533 120 ops+ 1.6 WAR

How about instead of cherry picking stats you just call it as it is. Surprise surprise, Trumbo was the same barely major league regular he's always been.

Do you really want people to go back and point out all the dumb shit you say, like Jonathan Schoop is better than Jason Kipnis? Or how Joey Rickard was a good player?

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I'm just a blind homer that knows nothing

Nice to see you're coming to your senses.

[Droford]

2015
262/310/449 107 ops+ 1.6 WAR

2016
256/316/533 120 ops+ 1.6 WAR

How about instead of cherry picking stats you just call it as it is. Surprise surprise, Trumbo was the same barely major league regular he's always been.

Do you really want people to go back and point out all the dumb shit you say, like Jonathan Schoop is better than Jason Kipnis? Or how Joey Rickard was a good player?

Schoop will be better than Kipnis because he's 5 years younger and already hit 25 hr and was on pace for 30 in the 2nd half of 2015 (15 in 86 games) . Kipnis didn't even start playing til 24 and didn't hit 20 hrs til last year age 29.
Schoop will be in the 30 hr group with Trumbo Davis Machado and Jones this year. Plus he played in all 162 games last year which Kipnis has never done in his career.

I was wrong about Rickard to the extent of how he played when he was healthy but he was on the DL for a large portion of the year. Speaking of the Indians they seem to want Anthony Santander back from the Orioles..he's going to have a bigger impact as a Rule 5 pick than Rickard did.

[poopfromweiner dude]

@Droford can you pls predict AL East final standings

not a hater just genuinely curious!!!!! As usual I have the Yankees penciled in for 162 wins and 0 losses...

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Schoop will be better than Kipnis because he's 5 years younger and already hit 25 hr and was on pace for 30 in the 2nd half of 2015 (15 in 86 games) . Kipnis didn't even start playing til 24 and didn't hit 20 hrs til last year age 29.
Schoop will be in the 30 hr group with Trumbo Davis Machado and Jones this year. Plus he played in all 162 games last year which Kipnis has never done in his career.



Dog home runs mean jack shit as a second baseman. Come on now. Low obp and free swinging, not great speed and not great defence. Who gives a shit about his fucking home runs you numb nut.

[poopfromweiner dude]

chicks

[poopfromweiner dude]

chicks dig the long ball

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

well yeah

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

And Schoop probably has a bigger penis than Kipnis too. Chicks dig that as well.

[Droford]

@Droford can you pls predict AL East final standings

not a hater just genuinely curious!!!!! As usual I have the Yankees penciled in for 162 wins and 0 losses...

Orioles
Blue Jays
Yankees
Red Sox
Rays

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Schoop will be better than Kipnis because he's 5 years younger and already hit 25 hr and was on pace for 30 in the 2nd half of 2015 (15 in 86 games) . Kipnis didn't even start playing til 24 and didn't hit 20 hrs til last year age 29.
Schoop will be in the 30 hr group with Trumbo Davis Machado and Jones this year. Plus he played in all 162 games last year which Kipnis has never done in his career.

I was wrong about Rickard to the extent of how he played when he was healthy but he was on the DL for a large portion of the year. Speaking of the Indians they seem to want Anthony Santander back from the Orioles..he's going to have a bigger impact as a Rule 5 pick than Rickard did.

30 homerun club? Jones hasn't hit 30 homeruns in 2 years.

Schoop has a career 283 career in base lmao. He's a career below average hitter lmao. His career "best" is a 306 on base unless you count the 5 games he played his first year lol. His "best" is worse than Kipnis' worst on base lmao. Kipnis is an all-star and Schoop is barely major league average, if that. Kipnis is Like 5x better lolololol.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

You weren't wrong on Rickard to the extent of blah blah blah. You were just wrong lol.

And you mean 21 year oops Andy Santander, who never played above A ball? Lmao who's the last rule 5 pick who didn't make it past A ball to make any mind of impact offensively? Lmao he Will probably get sent back to Cleveland.

[Droford]

The Indians blog I read wants him back because he projects out to a Victor Martinez type player and he's only 22. They figured the Orioles figured they could stash him on the DL due to a shoulder surgery he had in December to satisfy the rule 5 25 man roster requirement and because the surgery wasn't a major one like previously thought he's healthy and won't be going to the dl barring another injury. But no way he goes back to Cleveland. The Orioles can use a backup OF with his potential in the future and they've never shyed away from using a roster spot for a rule 5 player before (mist famous being Flaherty from the Cubs in 2011 he's still a bench player)

OF Trumbo Jones Kim Smith
IF Davis Schoop Hardy Machafo Flaherty
C Castillo Joseph
SP Tillman Gausman Bundy Jimenez Miley
RP Britton Oday Givens Brach Hart

There's 4 slots open for RP and utility players so there's a spot for Santander at least.

And Jones had 29 hr in 152 games last year and 27 in 137 in 2015. He's a 30 hr guy when he doesn't miss games (32 in 2012 in 162 and 33 in 2013 in 160).

[Damian Rey 2.0]

The Indians blog I read wants him back because he projects out to a Victor Martinez type player and he's only 22. They figured the Orioles figured they could stash him on the DL due to a shoulder surgery he had in December to satisfy the rule 5 25 man roster requirement and because the surgery wasn't a major one like previously thought he's healthy and won't be going to the dl barring another injury. But no way he goes back to Cleveland. The Orioles can use a backup OF with his potential in the future and they've never shyed away from using a roster spot for a rule 5 player before (mist famous being Flaherty from the Cubs in 2011 he's still a bench player)

OF Trumbo Jones Kim Smith
IF Davis Schoop Hardy Machafo Flaherty
C Castillo Joseph
SP Tillman Gausman Bundy Jimenez Miley
RP Britton Oday Givens Brach Hart

There's 4 slots open for RP and utility players so there's a spot for Santander at least.

And Jones had 29 hr in 152 games last year and 27 in 137 in 2015. He's a 30 hr guy when he doesn't miss games (32 in 2012 in 162 and 33 in 2013 in 160).

So the Indians blog not written by the Indians want him back? Great. Lmao Victor Martinez. Per mlb.com, real scouts rate him as an average regular at best. AT BEST. That's assuming he develops.

Likelihood is he's gonna set sent back because the Orioles think they can compete and having a dead bat on the roster who is maybe a backup outfielder long-term is a wasted roster spot for them.

But ok. He projects to be a Victor Martinez type. Based on a blog. Sure.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Jones is a good player

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

just Dro's hyperbole is too much

[Droford]

When he’s healthy, you see a hitter, as farfetched it may sound, that actually does look like Victor Martinez from the left-handed side.

Duquette also commented on Santander, where he was quoted as saying, “If you see him play, he has a lot of [Victor] Martinez’s mannerisms. He has a similar stance. Excellent young hitter. He was the best young player in the Carolina League.”

And he really does. Santander has developed a leg kick in which he uses in sync with his load. He has a very loose swing and for a 22 year old, it’s difficult to find a flaw in his approach at the plate. Much like Martinez, you see a guy whose bat-to-ball skills have aided his reputation. Comparing Santander to one of baseball’s most consistent bats over the last decade should sound like rubbish, but the tools speak too loudly too ignore.

From Camden Chat (http://www.camdenchat.com/2016/12/29/14108216/anthony-santander-brings-as-much-intrigue-as-insecurity)
Which is where the comparison to V Mart comes from

Indians blog article I mentioned earlier (http://www.letsgotribe.com/2017/2/27/14749700/anthony-santander-injury-baltimore-orioles-cleveland-indians)

The funny thing is Santander has never met Martinez and his batting stance and etc is all natural to him not trying to copy Martinez's

[Damian Rey 2.0]

So who do you think has a more valid opinion? A fan blog who's citing batting stance as a reason for a player comp, or a site run by mlb with real scouting reports by actual scouts measuring tools and ability instead of silly things like batting stances?

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Jones is a good player

He is. I've always been a fan. He's a good guy who does community stuff here in San Diego during the offseason. And he's always been a solid player.

[RP]

http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/18805460/boston-red-sox-left-hander-david-price-get-second-opinion-sore-elbow

Goodbye David Price

[Damian Rey 2.0]

The Chris Sale trade looks even more important now. Imagine not acquiring him and Price going down.

[RP]

They are about in the same place they were now. I'm not convinced Sale is that elite of a pitcher.

[Evil Vito]

Sale is one of the best pitchers in baseball.

Price had a down year, not sure if that's the new norm for him though or if it was just bad luck.

[RP]

He had a good 2014. Everything after that was about run of the mill really.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Sale or Price?

[Evil Vito]

http://m.mlb.com/video/topic/21753540/v1228729083/mianym-guillorme-catches-hechavarrias-errant-bat/?partnerId=as_mlb_20170302_70481526

lol this was awesome

[Emperor Smeat]

http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/18805460/boston-red-sox-left-hander-david-price-get-second-opinion-sore-elbow

Goodbye David Price

:-\

Seems odd he waited till now to deal with the problem if it kept bugging him every year. Either his previous doctor(s) were bad or Rays/Jays just took his word on it not being serious.

[Ruien]

Sale is one of the best pitchers in baseball.

Price had a down year, not sure if that's the new norm for him though or if it was just bad luck.

RP is a Cubs fan. It's like debating Droford on a O's issue.

[RP]

Sale's numbers dont say he's is one of the best pitchers in baseball.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

He can be pretty fucking dominant though.

[Droford]

Orioles scrub team got 1 hit vs the Yankees

Ugg

[Droford]

I'm not convinced that Sale will be good going from pitching in the AL Central which has been the worst division in baseball the last couple years to the AL East which has been the toughest division in baseball for like the last decade plus

If Sale isn't top shelf, David Price is out..that puts a lot of pressure on Porcello to replicate 2016. Not to mention Pomeranz has a bum arm too

[Nicky Fives]

I bet BoSox are wishing they had Buchholz back right about now....

[Emperor Smeat]

I bet BoSox are wishing they had Buchholz back right about now....

Nah still a smart decision to move on from him even with today's news about Price. Just too injury prone and inconsistent the past few years. Had he not tanked his trade value, his time with the Sox would have been over a lot sooner.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

I bet BoSox are wishing they had Buchholz back right about now....

No, I had about enough 5+ run innings with enough walks that Aerosmith should have been his theme song.

[Emperor Smeat]

Red Sox dodged a bullet with Price. Only needs rest and not surgery so just 1-2 Spring Training starts are missed.

Red Sox ace David Price won't need surgery after a second opinion on his throwing arm, manager John Farrell said Friday.

Price will undergo rest and treatment for the next 7-10 days.

Price underwent an MRI exam on Wednesday after experiencing soreness in his left elbow and forearm. The MRI showed swelling and fluid but was largely "inconclusive." Price then sought a second opinion from Dr. James Andrews and Dr. Neal ElAttrache -- two of sports' foremost orthopedic surgeons -- on Friday in Indianapolis, where they are attending the NFL scouting combine

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Phew.

[Nicky Fives]

Once elbow problems start, they won't quit for a while.... they're going to have to be really careful with him....

[Evil Vito]

For the second year in a row, the Mets have stuck to their hardline stance of not negotiating with their pre-arbitration eligible players and simply renewing their contracts. It was deGrom last year, and now Thor. Neither player signed their deals because they disagreed with what the team was offering them.

Reportedly the Mets and Thor were only $9k apart. Seems baffling to me that they'd miff their ace over what amounts to pennies in baseball.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

It's probably not about the money but the principle of the thing.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Once elbow problems start, they won't quit for a while.... they're going to have to be really careful with him....

Reports are that he has had elbow issues at Spring Training in years before. Could be just a winter rust situation.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Some wank material for Droford

http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/mlb-30-30-dare-bet-orioles/

[Evil Vito]

WBC starts tonight :love:

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Some wank material for Droford

http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/mlb-30-30-dare-bet-orioles/

30 in 30. How long have they been doing that? That's not trying to them with something else is it?

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

WBC starts tonight :love:

They really should do it after the season ends. Pick some nice places where it's warm AF year round.

When I said I wanted more day games 4am is not what I had in mind.

[Evil Vito]

Literally nobody important would play if it was after the season.

[Emperor Smeat]

Would also be competing against the Caribbean Leagues players like to go for winter baseball.

Unless MLB ever considers going in a similar route like MLS and NHL does for World Cups and Winter Olympics where they have a special break in the middle of the season, Spring Training is the only real time possible to hold the WBC.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Literally nobody important would play if it was after the season.

I think they might. If they get hurt they will have the off-season to get better. If they get hurt in the current set up they might miss the season.

[Droford]

I think the WBC is stupid since there's only like 4 good teams. DR Cuba Korea and US.

[Droford]

http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2017/3/6/14820392/know-your-enemy-baltimore-orioles

More like know your World Series benefactor

[Evil Vito]

Bill Webb has passed away :(

Directed Mets games for 40 years and also directed MLB on Fox

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

I think the WBC is stupid since there's only like 4 good teams. DR Cuba Korea and US.

Not Japan anymore?

[Nicky Fives]

Call me crazy, but I'd take Brett Lawrie back with the Jays in a heartbeat.

[Evil Vito]

Israel and Netherlands advance out of Pool A, Korea and Chinese Tapei are done. Wow.

[Droford]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Guess who's on the cover of Korea's version of 'MLB The Show 17'? <a href="https://t.co/cjU71Cov0Q">pic.twitter.com/cjU71Cov0Q</a></p>&mdash; Dan Kurtz (@MyKBO) <a href="https://twitter.com/MyKBO/status/839855385985093632">March 9, 2017</a></blockquote>
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I'm getting it and I want that cover instead of Griffey

[Evil Vito]

Italy comes back from down by 4 in the bottom of the ninth to beat Mexico!

[Nicky Fives]

Aaron Sanchez is on the Canadian cover. Seems smart to feature different athletes in different countries. They could even have a dozen different covers just in the States and I bet it would help sales....

[Evil Vito]

The starting outfield for today's Mets Spring Training game:

LF Yoenis Cespedes
CF Curtis Granderson
RF Tim Tebow

[Ruien]

Why is Tim Tebow playing in these games?

[Evil Vito]

The Mets have the lost 11 of 55 players from their spring training roster to the WBC, and they have a split squad today.

So they need to use a whole ton of minor leaguers to get through these games. And it's a cheap way to drum up interest in an otherwise meaningless spring game.

[Ruien]

Haha awesome. Hope he gets on a hot streak.

[Droford]

http://calltothepen.com/2017/03/09/mlb-are-baltimore-orioles-fans-overly-optimistic-for-2017/


Here is the entire list, with projected wins, Optimism Score ranking and the difference in ranking in parentheses. A positive difference means the fans are overly optimistic and a negative ranking means the fans are overly pessimistic. The teams are ranked from most overly optimistic fans to most overly pessimistic fans.

72 wins, 14th in Optimism Score (+14)—Philadelphia Phillies

80 wins, 4th in Optimism Score (+12)—Baltimore Orioles

71 wins, 20th in Optimism Score (+9)—Chicago White Sox

82 wins, 8th in Optimism Score (+5)—Detroit Tigers

73 wins, 21st in Optimism Score (+5)—Cincinnati Reds

85 wins, 5th in Optimism Score (+4)—Seattle Mariners

84 wins, 7th in Optimism Score (+4)—Texas Rangers

77 wins, 15th in Optimism Score (+4)—Miami Marlins

75 wins, 19th in Optimism Score (+4)—Kansas City Royals

73 wins, 22nd in Optimism Score (+4)—Milwaukee Brewers

90 wins, 2nd in Optimism Score (+3)—Washington Nationals

81 wins, 13th in Optimism Score (+2)—New York Yankees

77 wins, 17th in Optimism Score (+2)—Colorado Rockies

67 wins, 28th in Optimism Score (+2)—San Diego Padres

94 wins, 1st in Optimism Score (+1)—Chicago Cubs

88 wins, 5th in Optimism Score (+1)—Boston Red Sox

92 wins, 3rd in Optimism Score (+0)—Cleveland Indians

74 wins, 27th in Optimism Score (-2)—Atlanta Braves

87 wins, 10th in Optimism Score (-3)—San Francisco Giants

85 wins, 12th in Optimism Score (-3)—Toronto Blue Jays

75 wins, 26th in Optimism Score (-3)—Oakland Athletics

87 wins, 11th in Optimism Score (-4)—New York Mets

82 wins, 17th in Optimism Score (-4)—St. Louis Cardinals

80 wins, 22nd in Optimism Score (-6)—Los Angeles Angels

77 wins, 25th in Optimism Score (-6)—Arizona Diamondbacks

95 wins, 8th in Optimism Score, (-7)—Los Angeles Dodgers

76 wins, 30th in Optimism Score (-8)—Minnesota Twins

83 wins, 22nd in Optimism Score (-10)—Pittsburgh Pirates

92 wins, 15th in Optimism Score (-12)—Houston Astros

80 wins, 29th in Optimism Score (-13)—Tampa Bay Rays

[Droford]

watching WBC and they keep showing the Puerto Rico tourism ad and all I can think of is "Where are the Shining Stars?"

[Droford]

Adam Jones the hero for team USA

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Moonax can you send me another fantasy baseball join request. Accidentally deleted cause I thought it was Wadding's league that never started last year.

[Droford]

Angel Pagan didn't pass the Orioles physical (unsure when) which might be why he hasn't signed anywhere.
Pedro Alvarez signed a minor league deal with the Orioles and he's going to be playing OF in AAA.

[Evil Vito]

DR just came back from a 5-0 deficit against Andrew Miller and Team USA.

At this point I fully expect the DR to run the table on the whole tournament again. They're scary good.

[ClockShot]

This Japan/Netherlands game is pretty good.

[ClockShot]

That was good.

[Evil Vito]

Man this automatic base runner rule sucks. Completely ruined an otherwise great game between Columbia and DR.

I get they kinda have no choice, can't be playing 15 innings in March. But if MLB ever adopted these rules it would be shit

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I agree. For the purpose of the tournament it's fine, I guess. I mean, it's tolerable considering the circumstances.

But yeah, doing this in an actual MLB game would be a terrible idea and I hope the results sway the commissioner's office from moving forward with it.

[Droford]

What did we learn today?

Christian Yelich's mom looks younger than him.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Man this automatic base runner rule sucks. Completely ruined an otherwise great game between Columbia and DR.

I get they kinda have no choice, can't be playing 15 innings in March. But if MLB ever adopted these rules it would be shit

Manfred will probably try to adopt it. I don't like him very much.

[Droford]

Manny Machado Pool C MVP
With Wellington Castillo and Adam Jones making big plays

Plus Schoop was playing good for the Netherlands

[Droford]

Learned this

Fun fact: Vidal Nuno was once involved in a trade where the Diamondbacks sent him, along with Mark Trumbo, to the Mariners in exchange for a package that included Wellington Castillo. It’s a small world.


Vidal nuno is on the Mexican team and with Chris Tilmsn being hurt he's in the running for a spot in the os rotation

[Droford]

This Mexico Venezuela game has been crazy

Mexico just hit a better with bases loaded to make it 11-9 Mexico in the 7th with 1 out

[Droford]

The Orioles are Slow (https://theringer.com/2017-mlb-preview-baltimore-orioles-team-speed-manny-machado-buck-showalter-a4bdf2e04760#.g13vs0wym)

who cares

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Was feeling baseball but now we're getting a foot of snow. Shit.

[SammyG]

Fast forward to Dodgers Cubs plz

[RP]

LMAO RIGHT NOW

http://www.indystar.com/story/sports/ftw/2017/03/14/anthony-rizzo-inspired-the-2016-cubs-with-a-naked-clubhouse-speech-before-game-7/99182242/

From the excerpt:

An hour before the seventh game of the World Series, Rizzo stripped off all his clothes, cranked the theme from Rocky on the clubhouse stereo one more time, jumped on top of a coffee table and began quoting lines from the movie and throwing his best shadow-boxing punches. Pitcher Héctor Rondon, joining in on the hijinks, picked up an aerosol can of shoe cleaner and sprayed it in the direction of Rizzo's groin.

Startled and angered, Rizzo stopped and yelled, "What the heck, man!" He cut the music and stormed off toward the showers to clean off the spray.

"I'm thinking, Dang, what's he doing?" Ross said. "We can't have this negative vibe right before the game. I go by there. I can tell he's a little irritated."

Ten minutes went by. Rizzo finally emerged from the shower. He walked back silently to his locker with a towel around this waist. The room was quiet and uneasy.

Ross walked up to Rizzo and broke the silence.

"Hey! It's not how many times you get knocked down … it's how many times you get up!"

Rizzo chuckled. "You know what?" he said. "You're right!"

Said Ross, "He rips the towel off, runs up, turns the music on again, and he jumps back on the coffee table and starts doing the Rocky motions again."

Now, as Schwarber got ready to hit, Ross turned in Rizzo's direction and yelled at him, "Hey, it's not how many times you get knocked down…."

On cue Rizzo completed the battle cry, yelling back, "It's how many times you get back up!"

Eventually, Rizzo would find clothing for the rest of his speech, but he set the tone for the Cubs' historic night.

It's just another reminder that baseball clubhouses are, uh, unique.

You can read the entire excerpt here.

[RP]

WBC is wonderful. Baez celebrating before he even makes the tags. Love it.

[Emperor Smeat]

Mexico is currently upset at both the MLB and WBC in regards to tiebreaker rules for the WBC.

Asked several times what was needed to advance on tiebreakers prior to their last group stage game and got no responses back.

First found out what was needed by announcers from the tv broadcast during the game. Then found out after the game, the announcers were wrong and WBC's Twitter account said an elimination game was needed instead.

Then found out afterwards WBC's Twitter account was wrong and they were already eliminated since the WBC rules committee used a different tiebreaker instead.

http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/18917684/los-angeles-dodgers-adrian-gonzalez-criticizes-world-baseball-classic-organizers-mexico-elimination

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

lol fuck the wbc. What a disaster.

[Droford]

Adam Jones saves the day again

[Evil Vito]

lol fuck the wbc. What a disaster.

The WBC has been great this year.

[Evil Vito]

Also Adrian Gonzalez has already said he's boycotting the 2021 WBC over these rules. What a baby.

[Nicky Fives]

Also Adrian Gonzalez has already said he's boycotting the 2021 WBC over these rules. What a baby.

Like he'll even be playing baseball at 40....

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Gonzalez is a known cry baby. He comes off as a spoiled brat. He will prob be toast by the time the next WBC rolls around.

[RP]

Like he'll even be playing baseball at 40....

I dunno. Ryan Dempster just started for Canada this year.

[Droford]

The Orioles were getting no hit in the 9th..came back with a single and hr to tie the Phillies.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Good thing those games don't matter

[Droford]

Being no hit would have been horrible

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Except it wouldn't have been. Because it's spring training, where games don't matter and guys wearing number 97 are getting multiple at bats. Nobody would've cared. Unless they're dumb. Dumb people would care.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Except it wouldn't have been. Because it's spring training, where games don't matter and guys wearing number 97 are getting multiple at bats. Nobody would've cared. Unless they're dumb. Dumb people would care.

Yeah this reaffirms how retarded Droford is.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Orioles well on their way to grapefruit world series.

[Ruien]

Don't make fun of the games Tim Tebow plays in.

[screech]

I want someone who wears number 97 to become a HOF guy.

[Droford]

65 is the highest a player in the HOF (Bill McKechnie) wore

[Droford]

Adam Jones is the new Captain America

[road doggy dogg]

Tigers got no-hit by the Yankees hollaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[RP]

Who cares lets start the fucking season already!

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Miggy Cabrera out for WBC with back strain. Should be ok for opening day.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Speaking of leagues that don't really matter. PM me your yahoo email to get invited to the TPWW Fantasy Baseball League!

April 2 is the draft date before RassleMania.

[Sepholio]

Netherlands is gonna win the WBC. I think that might be a great thing for baseball in general.

[Droford]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jonesy robs it. Clippard can't believe it. Manny loves it. Wow. <a href="https://t.co/R7MRImSPc1">pic.twitter.com/R7MRImSPc1</a></p>&mdash; Connor Newcomb (@ConnorNewcomb_) <a href="https://twitter.com/ConnorNewcomb_/status/843327690262433792">March 19, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Adam Jones American Hero(although whyd he have to rob Manny Machado?)

Bonus points for manny basically hitting a HR off a Yankee though..they won't have Jonesy to save them in the regular season

https://content.sny.tv/assets/images/1/3/0/188771130/cuts/USATSI_9374905_xrtjdmq8_n1jaxw4y.jpg

[RP]

He robbed Machado because Machado will be a Yankee this season.

[poopfromweiner dude]

me getting hype for machado in pinstripes http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/510555/baseballyankeefans.gif

[road doggy dogg]

is that SammyG's brother

[DaveWadding]

Think it's @FakeLaser

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Was at the USA game last night. Adam Jones robbed that homerun literally feet from my buds and I. Fucking amazing.

[Droford]

You weren't one of the people in the pic getting made fun of for their reaction?

[Damian Rey 2.0]

No thank God. I was outside that frame

[Droford]

Drew Pomeranz got shut down due to a triceps issue for the Red Sox

And people still think they're going to win the AL East

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Lol Pomeranz is at best their 4 starter. Losing him isn't as big of a deal. He was actually terrible for them so I'm reality it's prob a wash if they have to summon a replacent level arm to f fill his spot.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Pablo Sandoval may not win the starting job. And people still think they're gonna win the East.

[Droford]

Tim Tebow is going to the Columbia Fireflies in the SAL which the Orioles Affiliate Delmarva Shorebirds are a part of and I live 5 min from the stadium. Might have to go to the only time they play them here May 10-12 if he's still hanging aroubd

[Droford]

Related note..they should have Bray Wyatt throw out a pitch

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Making my very first spring training trip this Thursday. Pretty excited, as I have family scattered throughout Arizona and plan on getting very, very drunk.

[Evil Vito]

I don't care about the actual spring training stats, but with guys coming off of injury I do care about how they appear to be physically.

Matt Harvey is hitting 91, 92 on his fastball and getting hammered as a result because his secondary stuff isn't at the level of a guy like deGrom who was still dominant early in the year last year even when his velocity took a while to come back.

The Mets have 7 legit MLB starters. They can't afford to give games away in a tough division just to keep Harvey happy. Put Gsellman and Lugo in the rotation and let Harvey stay in extended spring training until his velocity is at a point where he can thrive on the big stage. There's no point in having starting pitching depth if you aren't going to use it.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Agree with Vito. You can gage health in spring training and a guy who is sitting 3 to 5 mph lower than his typical velocity is not a good sign. Keeping him in extended to build health is a good thing. Send him on some rehab starts while they're at it.

[Evil Vito]

Exactly. If Harvey's curve or change were good enough for him to overcome the lack of a fastball, it'd be fine to let him start the year. But they're not. And his slider never was the same after his TJS.

There's no shame in starting the year in extended spring with the rotation the Mets have. Wheeler's gonna stay back in extended too so he can pitch in controlled games as a way of limiting innings, and he seems 100% unlike Harvey. He probably won't be up until May and even then he may start in the pen just to let them stick to their plan of keeping him in the low 100s range for innings.

Syndergaard-deGrom-Matz-Gsellman-Lugo is still a damn fine rotation to open the year. They don't get a Wild Card berth without those last two. I really think Gsellman could be a legit ROTY candidate if he was in the bigs all year, and Lugo's been killing it in the WBC with the spin rate on his curveball.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Gsellman is sneaky good.

[ClockShot]

YES Network returns to us Comcast customers on March 31st.

Just in time for opening day.

[YOUR Hero]

Hope the Jays are still a playoff team. I feel a regression might be coming. I hope not.

[YOUR Hero]

Speaking of leagues that don't really matter. PM me your yahoo email to get invited to the TPWW Fantasy Baseball League!

April 2 is the draft date before RassleMania.

Fantasy Baseball - 2017

sign up, spots open!

https://yho.com/mlb?l=26241&k=284ed0...7959b822a780f5

[Nicky Fives]

Hope the Jays are still a playoff team. I feel a regression might be coming. I hope not.

It all hinges on Morales and Stroman.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Not even. No reason to think Stroman and their pitching staff won't keep them competitive. Morales will probably provide league average like offensive production.

The big problem right now in Toronto is left field. It is a giant hole and I don't think Melvin Upton is the answer.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

They're very good everywhere else, tough, and I think they'll be competitive at the worst.

[Droford]

Lol
Jays will barely be a .500 team

[Evil Vito]

I wonder what that last Droford post says?

Oh wait, no I don't because having him on ignore makes the MLB thread much more bearable.

[Nicky Fives]

Not even. No reason to think Stroman and their pitching staff won't keep them competitive. Morales will probably provide league average like offensive production.

The big problem right now in Toronto is left field. It is a giant hole and I don't think Melvin Upton is the answer.

Its been like that for quite a few seasons, its nothing new in TO....

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Agree with Vito. You can gage health in spring training and a guy who is sitting 3 to 5 mph lower than his typical velocity is not a good sign. Keeping him in extended to build health is a good thing. Send him on some rehab starts while they're at it.

yeah you can tell physical things that's for sure.

You need guys to be able to get their "shit in" house show styles.

[Droford]

Japan looks like the Yankees instantly want to hate them 100x more

[Emperor Smeat]

Blue Jays currently working on a deal to extend manager John Gibbons' contract for 2 more years with an option for a 3rd year. His current contract is set to expire after this season.

[Droford]

I was going to write a post about how John Gibbons is a terrible manager but it aint even worth it.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Yeah remember the time he trotted out Ubaldo Jimenez in extra innings to face the heart of the Jay's batting order when he had Zach Britton waiting in the bullp- oh wait.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

But yeah I am actually not big on Gibby. 2 Alcs appearances means you should reep some benefits though.

[Droford]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">OMG, you don't want to miss the April issue of <a href="https://twitter.com/Baltimoremag">@Baltimoremag</a>! I mean, look at these photos! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/IBackTheBirds?src=hash">#IBackTheBirds</a> <a href="https://t.co/7h3bioNQeD">pic.twitter.com/7h3bioNQeD</a></p>&mdash; OLIVIA witherite (@Oliviawitherite) <a href="https://twitter.com/Oliviawitherite/status/844270945284096005">March 21, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Manny isn't going anywhere but they need to pay Schoop too

[Damian Rey 2.0]

He sure is going somewhere. But you keep telling yourself he isn't.

[RP]

Is someone on the Yankees wearing Machado's number right now?

[Evil Vito]

Nope, A-Rod's retired so #13 is available.

THE STARS ARE ALIGNING

[Damian Rey 2.0]

It's ok guys. Droford's plan of having Machado take a discount the first 3 years of his deal while Davis' contract withers away is bulletproof. And we all know Schoop is better than Kipnis.

[Droford]

Backloading contracts happens all the time.

And Schoop is better than Kipnis

[DaveWadding]

Making my very first spring training trip this Thursday. Pretty excited, as I have family scattered throughout Arizona and plan on getting very, very drunk.

BRUH. I live like 5 minutes from the Padres complex. Let's grab a beer at some point.

[screech]

And Schoop is better than Kipnis

He really isn't, though. We've been over this.

[Droford]

Well considering Kipnis is out for a month and Schoop is healthy I guess Kipnis sure is better alright

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Lol Kipnis is still better. He's a better hitter, better fielder and better base runner. Schoop is better at making lots of outs so I guess that's where your argument is from.

And yes, contacts are back loaded, but not to the ridiculous extent you insinuated. Machado isn't going to take 15 mil a year for the first 3 years. That's absurd when he's probably gonna make 25 to 30 mil a year. You're thinking he'll take half that when somebody will happily pay it upfront if ridiculous.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

BRUH. I live like 5 minutes from the Padres complex. Let's grab a beer at some point.

I'd be down. I'll be there to catch I think the Padres angels game.

[Droford]

The Cardinals are doing what the braves did last year. $30 a month gets you a guaranteed standing room spot for every Cardinals game. Supposedly MLB is pushing teams to do this although I can't see the Cubs or Yankees doing it..

[Ruien]

The Cardinals are doing what the braves did last year. $30 a month gets you a guaranteed standing room spot for every Cardinals game. Supposedly MLB is pushing teams to do this although I can't see the Cubs or Yankees doing it..

Does the Chi Sox have standing room only? Feels weird having to stand when there are 100,000 open seats.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I wish the Padres would open up the sun deck out on centerfield for standing room. However it's group tickets only.

Thankfully there's deck right above it with a bar.

[Emperor Smeat]

USA just beat Puerto Rico for the World Baseball Classic crown.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

And it was glorious. Love the wbc. Glad USA finally has a trophy to show for themselves. Was already a Marcus Stroman fan but he'sc won me over once again

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Not-Braunnnnnnnn wins the WBC.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

WBC tournament confirms the importance of series in playoffs. Both Japan and Puerto Rico didn't know defeat until yesterday and today.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

That's what gives it the edge. I like the way it's currently set up as its very different compared to the usual playoff structure.

[Evil Vito]

No Trout, no Harper, no Bryant, no Kershaw, no Syndergaard, no Bumgarner, no problem.

[road doggy dogg]

The Cardinals are doing what the braves did last year. $30 a month gets you a guaranteed standing room spot for every Cardinals game. Supposedly MLB is pushing teams to do this although I can't see the Cubs or Yankees doing it..

That's awesome. I'd say probably 80%+ of Tigers games I go to, I get SRO. Beautiful view, you're close to vendors, you don't have to worry about "sitting together" if you're with a large group, etc.

$30/month for that would be fucking incredible. I doubt it would be that cheap though. Must vary on a team-by-team basis