MLB Thread

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

You can't help but be as gay as me when it comes to big Jake.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Kris Bryant for me. Those eyes. That smile.

[RP]

Dude has to have a tight butthole for sure.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Not after I'm done with him :shifty:

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Yeah he's dreamy.

I personally believe Russell Martin fucks anything in his path. Understatedly handsome, I say.

[RP]

I'm just saying. He spreads those buttcheeks and it looks like a pin prick.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Francisco Cervelli is pretty rugged

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

i see it

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

In the same ilk as RP, it is so strange being a Jays fan right now. The Yankees did in this series, what the Jays used to do with the Yankees for most of the past 2 decades. Clockshot said how they had the Jays on the ropes and they did. If Pineda stays in the game, I think Yankees sweep the Jays. But the storm hits, the delay happens and everything changes and the Jays escape the series with a 2-1 win.

Yankees fans would have a hard time understanding this, but what happened to you this weekend (and other series in the past 2 seasons) has happened to the Jays almost every season since 1994. It is really weird to see the Jays do crazy things in Yankees stadium.

[Evil Vito]

I hope the Cubs do win the pennant if not the whole thing. There really aren't any other possible NL teams I could see myself pulling for, except for maybe the Pirates if they find a way in.

Fuck the Nats/Murphy, fuck the Dodgers/Utley, fuck the Cardinals and Marlins in general. I don't hate the Giants but I'd like to see the even year thing die.

I'd be happy with pretty much any of the AL teams except for Boston, which has been done to death. I wouldn't even mind the O's winning it all because I could simply put Droford on ignore.

[Ruien]

I want the Jays or Rangers to win the AL. Nats or Marlins would be my choice for the NL.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Who is your team again Ruien?

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Don't get me wrong, I'm not huge on Baltimore as they are direct division rivals, but I feel I would hate them a lot less if it wasn't for Droford.

[Nicky Fives]

I'm not trying to brag, but the Cubs pitching will destroy everyone in the playoffs. I cant see anyone beating them. I'm not even counting there amazing defense and great bats. The pitching alone is incredible.

If Toronto can get hot like last year heading into October they're the only team that can give Chicago a run in my eyes, and that's only if the Jays pitching can at least hold there own (which as a Jays fan, I'll admit is a stretch)....Lots of 8-6, 11-9 games....

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Jays Cubs please. So many fun players on each team.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Like, Jays Cubs would have a ridiculous amount of superstar flavor. Bautista, Donaldson, Encarnacion as the established power houses. Stroman and Sanchez as the up and comers.

For huge Cubs they have Lackey and Lester reaching the promised land once again, with legitimate superstar tandem Rizzo and Bryant, Russell is a future star, probably Contreas too.

Just seems like such a fresh matchup.

[weather vane]

Fucking bullpen.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Fucking bullpen.

Boston should be winning the division with the guys they have. I blame that toolbag Farrell.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

If Toronto can get hot like last year heading into October they're the only team that can give Chicago a run in my eyes, and that's only if the Jays pitching can at least hold there own (which as a Jays fan, I'll admit is a stretch)....Lots of 8-6, 11-9 games....

Estrada I'm worried about a bit but he usually rises to the occasion. I think Happ has turned a big corner in his career and if you get Stroman consistent (which he has been since that awful 2 month stretch) you have a decent pitching core... nevermind Sanchez who we have no fucking clue what they're going to do with.

[Droford]

The Orioles unloaded a lot of frustration out on the Astros..it's 12-3 in the 6th on 5 homers

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Too bad they can't swing their way two games up.

[Emperor Smeat]

MLB considering some big changes for future seasons with the earliest they could take effect be around 2018/2019.

Limiting pitching changes, restricting defensive shifts, altering the strike zone and installing pitch clocks are among the ideas Major League Baseball may consider as it undertakes a multiyear review of the game that could include the sport's most radical changes in decades.
Out of the group, the commish is currently favoring pitch clocks since it would be the quickest to do and already set as part of the offseason debates with the union.

Other potential bigger ideas like lowering the pitcher's mound are unlikely to get approved any time soon.

http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/17340694/mlb-owners-see-presentation-limiting-pitching-changes-shifts

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Can't see any of those being beneficial. The limiting of shifts and reliever changes is so stupidl. It's an active move against strategy. Why would they limit strategy? Christ.

[Emperor Smeat]

More attempts to cut back the time lengths of games since its been the new comish's goal ever since his reign started.

The idea of a pitch clock would be the easiest mostly because its already done in the minors and MLB already has enough data to feel it was effective.

Stuff like changing the pitchers mound would be way too drastic since it would require a ton of changes to happen just to shave off a bit more time. Probably wouldn't see any real effect until the next gen or two of pitchers since they would have been used to the new mound by then.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

The only way they're going to shave off any real time is by cutting ad time during commercial breaks. Which isn't happening.

[Evil Vito]

I might just stop watching baseball if they implement some of those changes.

[Evil Vito]

Mets get a grand slam off of of Bumgarner. Then deGrom who has been their clear ace and only starter worth a shit of late serves up 5 runs the very next inning including a 2 run bomb to Bumgarner.

This team is a failure on every level imaginable.

[Evil Vito]

Aaaaand deGrom gives up 3 more runs. 8 runs given up on a night when they were fortunate enough to score 4 off of Bumgarner in game they absolutely needed to have.

Thanks Jake :y: and to think he was the only player on this roster that hadn't turned into a gutless turd over the last month

[Ruien]

Who is your team again Ruien?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not huge on Baltimore as they are direct division rivals, but I feel I would hate them a lot less if it wasn't for Droford.

White Sox and I 100% agree with the Baltimore thing. I actually liked then before Droford happenes.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

The White Sox are perplexing to me because they seem like they should have no issues competing at the top of the division and yet... they don't? What's the deal, Ruien?

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Aaaaand deGrom gives up 3 more runs. 8 runs given up on a night when they were fortunate enough to score 4 off of Bumgarner in game they absolutely needed to have.

Thanks Jake :y: and to think he was the only player on this roster that hadn't turned into a gutless turd over the last month


lol the guy is allowed to have a bad start :p

[Ruien]

The White Sox are perplexing to me because they seem like they should have no issues competing at the top of the division and yet... they don't? What's the deal, Ruien?

The bullpen is terrible. I don't have any stats but I am certain the White Sox have the most blown leads going into the 7th, 8th, and 9th inning. If it wasn't for that the Sox would probably be contenders win the division.

Seems like there are a ton of issues inside the club house with players and upper management too.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Yeah, is Kenny Williams just a total fucking twat or what?

[Nicky Fives]

Estrada I'm worried about a bit but he usually rises to the occasion. I think Happ has turned a big corner in his career and if you get Stroman consistent (which he has been since that awful 2 month stretch) you have a decent pitching core... nevermind Sanchez who we have no fucking clue what they're going to do with.

Happ has been the MVP of the team by far and was a great signing in the off-season. Never going to be an ace, but a solid #3 option just like Estrada.

[Evil Vito]

lol the guy is allowed to have a bad start :p

I'm just frustrated. The guy has pitched his heart out and gotten almost no run support. Then they finally give him some and he lays a total fucking egg. Nothing has gone right for this team at all and a year after a pennant it's upsetting.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Happ has been the MVP of the team by far and was a great signing in the off-season. Never going to be an ace, but a solid #3 option just like Estrada.

I'd say in this particular year he has been the team's ace. Probably not in the future, but he's been THE guy this year for this team (as you said with your MVP declaration).

If he's consistently turned the corner for the rest of his career, with his use of the fastball, I think that makes him a reliable #2. Estrada is great but he has to be perfect or else balls start leaving the ballpark, which makes him a really go 3 or 4. Happ can be a bit off, but he's got real gas and a deceptive fastball where he uses "all 4 quadrants of the plate" blah blah blah making him a real mainstay as a legit #2 in any rotation. But it all depends on how he performs from hereon in and how he looks next year. But as a one off year, this season in itself has been one hell of an accomplishment, and nobody can take that away from him.

[Evil Vito]

And there isn't any real reason to be optimistic about the team next year. But people want to keep pointing to the pitching. People said that in the second half this year they'd have deGrom, Thor, Harvey, Matz, and Wheeler all together.

Well Wheeler never threw a pitch in the big leagues this year. Harvey sucked and now has a potentially career-derailing TOS injury. Matz has pitched through bone spurs in his elbow for two months and now is being shut down with a shoulder injury. Thor's also pitching through elbow bone spurs and is clearly a Tommy John candidate. That leaves you with only deGrom.

You can't build a team entirely on pitching anymore because pitchers are far more injury prone than they used to be. And good luck thinking the offense will bail them out as Sandy loses Cespedes and Walker to free agency and continues to try to assemble a team of free-swinging hackers.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Happ's ERA is 3.05 and his FIP is almost 4. lol if you've watched the guy pitch this year that is a load of utter shit.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

With the exact same defence, Marcus Stroman's FIP is 3.85 with an ERA of 4.6. Once again, if you've watched him pitch, it hasn't been a matter of "luck" it's been a matter of not pitching well with runners in scoring position.

I'm sorry, but that stat is wildly stupid.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

It's because Stroman has a lesser homerun and walk rate while facing more batters than Happ.

It's only stupid because you're not trying to understand what it's telling and how.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I feel like you're thinking that fip thinks Stroman is better. That's not what it's for. It's a stat that gives you expected performance for a player based on their rates of walks, homers and strikeouts.

Fip is saying that you should expect/project Stroman to do a little better and Happ to regress a bit.

WAR is the stat you'd use to judge who's better in any given year.

[Droford]

The Orioles have hit 4 homers in the 1st inning first 5 batters

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

The Orioles have hit 4 homers in the 1st inning first 5 batters

Greatest team of all time

[Droford]

Greatest team of all time

First team in mlb history to hit 4 homers in 1st inning without recording an out.

Game is 7-6 now going into just the 3rd inning

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

First team in mlb history to hit 4 homers in 1st inning without recording an out.

Game is 7-6 now going into just the 3rd inning

Better than the 27 yanks

[Droford]

Jays got walked off on an inside the park hr

Lessens the pain of losing 14-8 slightly

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Sox in a virtual tie for ALE. Loss Column same as the Jays.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Jays got walked off on an inside the park hr

Lessens the pain of losing 14-8 slightly

Better than the '67 Red Sox.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Red Sox are about to overtake the division with what I think will be relative ease.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I'm still pulling for Toronto baby

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

You and me both, handsome ;)

Tough loss lastnight but unless your Zach Britton you can't save'm all, plus the whole team apart from the pitching was dreadful last night. Serious concentration lapses.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Nah. I think it's just the peaks and valleys of a season. They have a very, very good rotation and their lineup is legit. They'll be fine.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Nah. I think it's just the peaks and valleys of a season. They have a very, very good rotation and their lineup is legit. They'll be fine.

oh 100 per cent. But they just weren't very good, mainly in the field. Devon Travis was woeful. Just issues of concentration on his part.

No issue with Osuna getting smacked around. Would rather he went out there and gave up bombs then went out there and walked guys. He'll shake it off like he always has.

Was VERY impressed with Liriano. Buck Martinez and Pat Tabler called it before game, and said in his side session he was throwing a nasty 4 seam fastball and it really paid dividends in the start.

Grilli and Benoit were also very good. Grilli this year has been sensational for the Jays and is the glue holding the bullpen together.

Biggest issue for the team is 7-9 in the line up. And by 7-9 I mean Justin Smoak and BJ Upton. Upton I can deal with because he is a very potent ball player when he wants to be, but Justin Smoak has proven time and time again he cannot hit with runners on base and frankly isn't that good with the bases empty. His strikeout rate is staggering. He's a good defensive first basemen but at this point, you may as well have a pitcher batting in his spot. He's been extended, but he deserves to be DFA'd.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

When you can only complain about the bottom third of your lineup you're in a good spot lol

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

well I could complain about a few other things but at the end of the day they're 16 games over .500 and they play hard.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

When Upton lines a pitch up, he has a gorgeous swing.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

He does. He's a fun player to watch when he gets going.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Another nailbiter in Cleveland.

[Ruien]

Damn Baltimore is going to be behind both teams by a couple games now. So happy.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

But they're the best team to ever be 2 games behind in their division. Best. Ever.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Droford has been awfully quiet

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

lol I don't care to give him too hard of a time about Baltimore not doing well, afterall they have a decent enough team to go on a run. As you said Damo, peaks and valleys of the season.

[RP]

Brett Gardner.. PLAY OF THE FUCKING YEAR HOLY SHIT

[RP]

HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

...... videeo?

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I saw it, great grab.

[Ruien]

lol I don't care to give him too hard of a time about Baltimore not doing well, afterall they have a decent enough team to go on a run. As you said Damo, peaks and valleys of the season.

Ya but if you let both teams grt like a 4 game lead over you its really doubtful you are coming back from that on both teams. And right now it's all about winning the division instead of the toss up wild card game.

[Droford]

Droford has been awfully quiet

2 nights ago was terrible..amazing they could hit 5 hrs and still lose 15-8. I had last night's game split screened with the Ravens game while also watching Takeover on my phone so it was probably a good thing my attention was diverted since it was probably top 3 worst they've played all year...

[Damian Rey 2.0]

With his blessing, Toronto is going to option Aaron Sanchez down for a ten day break.

[Droford]

The Orioles managed to win by dodging Strasburg..

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Thanks Tampa Bay. Sox in first place tie.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I only saw one play in that game and it was the home run robbing catch in bottom 8.

[Droford]

Frustrating and Amusing that the Orioles can suck so bad vs the Astros but go crazy vs the Nationals

[poopfromweiner dude]

orules are gunna get their ass swept dude

bet on it

[Droford]

Swept by who? They're up 5-2 in the 1st of 2 in DC and they took both games in Baltimore. Of Scherzer wasn't pitching vs Ubaldo tomorrow id like their chances for a 4 game 2 city 2 series sweep. Stranger things have happened

Plus the Angels are up 6-0 on Toronto..

[poopfromweiner dude]

the DAMN yankees thats who

[Droford]

Rays trying to beat the Sox via walk off

Blue Jays getting haloed by the Angels

[Frank Drebin]

lolllllllllllllll

Guaranteed Rate Field

lolllllllllllllll

[Frank Drebin]

Where the fuck is Ruien?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

[Droford]

Doesn't beat Hard Rock Stadium for the Dolphins though

[Droford]

Zach Britton gave up a run :(

On the bright side they still won 10-8

[Ruien]

lolllllllllllllll

Guaranteed Rate Field

lolllllllllllllll

Don't hate.

[Ruien]

I thought that was a joke on Facebook.

[Droford]

Sox lose. Woo! Only 1 GB now

[Frank Drebin]

I thought that was a joke on Facebook.

Nope. Your new logo is an arrow pointing down. How apt.

[Droford]

When Manny hits his next HR the Os will have 3 guys with 30+ no other team has more than 1 although Boston and Toronto are close to having 2. Adam Jones is sitting on 24 so they will have 4 guys with 30+ more than likely

[Ruien]

Nope. Your new logo is an arrow pointing down. How apt.

Haha no way. It means our ticket prices will be falling. WOOOO

[Evil Vito]

The last time Curtis Granderson got a hit with runners in scoring position, Roger Maris was chasing the home run record.

[Emperor Smeat]

Even though they dropped the last 2 games, Red Sox did better on this road trip than their last long one. Rotation is getting a boost since Wright's ready to come back from his injury.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Jays re acquired Dioner Navarro. Fans loved that guy, nice to see him back and so soon as well.

[RP]

Welp! NL Mvp just got sealed up. Congrats Kris Bryant. Sorry Dodgers for feeling his wrath tonight.

[DaveWadding]

Can't see any of those being beneficial. The limiting of shifts and reliever changes is so stupidl. It's an active move against strategy. Why would they limit strategy? Christ.

Chicks don't dig the shift, my man....

[Nicky Fives]

Jays re acquired Dioner Navarro. Fans loved that guy, nice to see him back and so soon as well.

I was upset they didn't try and get Ruiz, but I like this better. Mostly improve by subtraction by getting rid of Thole, but with no Thole its not looking good for Dickey to make the postseason roster, which doesn't hurt my feelings.

[ClockShot]

Hey Droford,

How 'bout that Yankees win last night?

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

2016 Orioles- Best team in major league history

[Ruien]

Damnit. Q was pitching for the Sox and it is bobble head night but it's supposed to storm. Now to hope the game just gets cancelled to grt new tickets.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I noticed Droford's been relatively quiet since the O's fell and have stayed out of first place.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I'm still waiting for Joey Rickard not to suck.

[poopfromweiner dude]

lol everytime the Orioles threw a pitch it was like BOOM HOME RUN LOL

Gay Orioles going to get another cum filled asshole today

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

lol everytime the Orioles threw a pitch it was like BOOM HOME RUN LOL

Gay Orioles going to get another cum filled asshole today

Then you'll have something in common with them you Fucking cum dumpster

[poopfromweiner dude]

LOL WHERE DROFORD

I CANT EVEN RUB MY DICK BC BOOM HOME RUN AGAIN AND AGAIN

ORIOLE PITCHING = so bad

[poopfromweiner dude]

Even ellsbury can hit the wall on the fly...

can't believe Orioles are this bad = what a joke

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

shutup

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Jays came back from 5-0 to win 8-7. Ugly fucking game but take'm how you can get'm.

I think the series against the O's is gonna be tough, but if they can take 1 it keeps the O's at bay.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Also, no matter what team you're playing, comeback wins I feel are essential in getting hot as a team. Gives you the feeling that you can overcome anything.

Feel bad for the Twins and mostly Paul Molitor. They can swing the bats, but that bullpen... yeesh!

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Dennis Eckersley is the most annoying fucking commentator. Shut the fuck up.

[Ruien]

Q pitched a hell of a game and I got my bobblehead tonight! WOOOOOOOOOO.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Dustin Pedroia went 11 for 11

[Droford]

I'm still waiting for Joey Rickard not to suck.

I like to think him going on the DL was about the time they started playing bad

He should be coming back though

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Would be funny if the Cubs win the Series the year after BTTF2.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Nothing more frustrating than watching a pitcher pitch well and little squibbers squeak throough on him seemingly all game. Stroman was dealing pretty good yesterday and couldn't catch a break.

I remember earlier in the year I was watching Sabathia vs the Rangers and fuck the dude was dealing, and everything that could have went wrong in an inning went wrong, the guy could not catch a break and by the end of the inning gave up 7 runs... it was like COME THE FUCK ON lol. Baseball can be a cruel game.

[Ruien]

Yankees going for the sweep today right? Going to be amazed if they somehow grt the 2nd wildcard spot but they are sticking around.

[Evil Vito]

I'm fully expecting either the Yankees or Royals to make the playoffs, get to the World Series, and then be vanquished by the Nationals led by World Series MVP Daniel Murphy.

That would be the worst possible scenario for the Mets, so I'm assuming it will happen.

[Droford]

Kevin Gausman won a game on the road first time since August of 2014. He was 0-16 in 25 road starts since.
Trumbo got #40. Outside shot of him getting to 50. Needs 10 in 32 games.

[Droford]

I'm actually NOT looking forward to upcoming 3 games with the jays. Miley Ubaldo and Gallardo starting. Maybe I'll be shocked..the first two pitched decently last time out and Gallardo can't pitch much worse than his last start

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Don't worry dro, I'm sure the jays will go out of their way to make those bums look like cy young candidates

[Bad News Gertner]

Gallardo kills the Jays

[Droford]

Red Sox getting pummeled by KC.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

KC is the most pesky, irritating team to play against. FUck those guys, but also thank you for beating the Sox at Fenway.

[Heyman]

KC looks like they're heating up. I know there are a few teams right now that have a better record than KC, but I still think KC is the team to beat.

p.s.________I hardly follow baseball. :shifty:

p.p.s.____________Go Jays!

[Droford]

The ump tonight is calling the worst strike zone I've seen the whole year..but to be fair it's both teams..

[Droford]

Orioles are only the 6th team ever to hit 50 HR twice in one month as a team.

Currently at 205 with 31 games left which is 59 short of tying the record of 264. They had 56 homers in June so if they could hit a few more in this Jays series they could have a shot at the record.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Ump is calling it consistently, nothing wrong with his strikezone, just big side to side.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Woo hoo go Toronto. Oh Canada!

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

lol. Nice game tonight. Pretty much a tailor made victory. 7 innings from your starter, big hold from bullpen in the 8th. Add on runs in the top ninth, 1-2-3 bottom ninth from Joaquin The Crippler Benoit.

Hopefully they take advantage of that fucking plug, Jimenez tomorrow night.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

-edit- double post

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I was right about the Jays making Miley look like a Cy Young contender though.

[Evil Vito]

Yeah I'm done with the Mets if they don't re-sign Cespedes this winter. They can't win without him. He's a fucking beast.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

There's nowhere to put him Vito. He's not a centerfielder and clearly doesn't want to play there. They still have Granderson on the books, Conforto needs to play everyday, and God knows what they're gonna do with Bruce.

What they need to do is figure out their centerfield situation and second base. I thought I read they might extend Walker. But nonetheless. 3rd base is also a position of need.

[Ruien]

Didn't Cespedes say he plans on staying there? That he would not option out if need be? Could have sworn that was on ESPN which shows he wants to be a Met.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Also, we all know that Vito will never be done with the Mets.

[Evil Vito]

There's nowhere to put him Vito. He's not a centerfielder and clearly doesn't want to play there. They still have Granderson on the books, Conforto needs to play everyday, and God knows what they're gonna do with Bruce.

What they need to do is figure out their centerfield situation and second base. I thought I read they might extend Walker. But nonetheless. 3rd base is also a position of need.

You make room for Cespedes. He is their only bat. Grandy can be a 4th outfielder in his last year. Conforto in CF where he's been playing in AAA, Bruce in RF. Conforto to RF full time in 2018 when Bruce and Grandy are both gone.

I don't see them extending Walker given the amount of time he's missed with his back injury, but it'll look bad if they don't keep him considering they traded Dilson goddamn Herrera. As for 3B, Reyes has a league minimum option for next year since Colorado is paying his regular salary. He'll be back and be the insurance policy at 3B for when Wright inevitably gets hurt again.

[Evil Vito]

Didn't Cespedes say he plans on staying there? That he would not option out if need be? Could have sworn that was on ESPN which shows he wants to be a Met.

He's said he wants to stay but he immediately walked back his opt out comments saying "I'll leave that to my agents".

We all know his agents will tell him to opt out because it's a horrible free agent market and he's going to get the $100+ million offers he didn't get last offseason.

[Ruien]

Still the fact remains, he wants to be a Met. And yes, you make room for the best player on the team.

[Ruien]

Toronto needs to take 1 more from Baltimore to send them on their way down to a no wild card spot.

[Evil Vito]

Also, we all know that Vito will never be done with the Mets.

I will be if they let Cespedes go. I waited through 4 terrible Alderson seasons to finally see the team be good, letting their best player leave is going to make their lineup even worse than it has been this year. There's little point in having a stud rotation (which is injury prone as hell, btw) if nobody in your lineup can score.

I was the same way last offseason, very adamant that they bring Yo back and he's showed everybody why this year.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

.... I'll believe it when I see it :lol:

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Toronto needs to take 1 more from Baltimore to send them on their way down to a no wild card spot.

God it'd be great, only so Droford could suffer.

[Evil Vito]

.... I'll believe it when I see it :lol:

You won't see me in this thread again if they let him walk. Except maybe a video of me burning every piece of Met gear I own (and that's a lot).

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

lmfao Vito you are the best.

[Evil Vito]

God the thought of Bruce, Granderson, and Duda all being regular starters in the lineup next year is vomit inducing. They're all the exact same player. Left-handed hackers with no strategy at the plate other than to swing for the fences every AB.

#SaveUsYo

[Evil Vito]

http://m.mets.mlb.com/nym/video/v1111981083/mianym-cespedes-sends-mets-home-with-walkoff-jack

God I love a fucking home run when everybody immediately jumps up the second the ball hits the bat.

[Ruien]

God it'd be great, only so Droford could suffer.

Exactly. Although, he will probably stop posting. But deep down we will just imagine how much he is suffering.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

They'd be dumb to have Conforto share time. He needs to play everyday. And not in 2018. Right now. And not in centerfield. Because he's not a centerfielder. It didn't work with Cespedes in c.f. this year, and it won't work throwing Conforto out there either. You can't just run a guy out there, out of position, and expect it to stick.

They're not gonna bench Granderson, who's making $15 mil. The only thing I can think of is they move Granderson and in turn one of Cespedes, assuming he doesn't opt out, or Conforto goes to right and they live with Lagares in center or look for an upgrade.

If they run out an outfield of corner outfielders they're gonna have the same issues they've had this year out there.

[Evil Vito]

Conforto made a great diving play in CF earlier this year and has been getting excessive work there in the minors along with now taking RF reps. It's clear they're committing to him being comfortable at the other two OF positions because he's going to need to play there if he wants to help at all down the stretch in September. Whether or not idiot Terry gives him ABs over Bruce or Grandy in September remains to be seen.

[Droford]

God it'd be great, only so Droford could suffer.

Os are 1 game ahead of Detroit 2 ahead of KC And 3 ahead of Seattle. So it's not the end of the world just yet.

[Evil Vito]

Given how big of a colossal bust Jay Bruce has been with the Mets I wouldn't even be averse to them just paying him the $1 million buyout after the season and letting him go so Conforto can play RF next year. Bruce is a fucking dullard.

[Evil Vito]

As for Grandy, the best thing he can do for this team is going to be to pull a Cuddyer and retire this winter. He can't play at this level anymore. If he has to be an expensive backup next year then so be it but they CANNOT use Grandy's contract as an excuse to not pay Cespedes.

[Evil Vito]

You pay Cespedes whatever he wants and you put him in LF next year. You work the rest of the OF around him. He's the heart and soul of this team and a fucking New York franchise has no business letting a guy like him get away.

The window of contention with these pitchers will be slammed shut if Cespedes leaves, because he is the only surefire offensive weapon the Mets have. They have no chance of winning without him. None.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

A diving catch does not mean he's good in center. It's just a diving catch. I think if they pay down the contract they'll be able to move Granderson. The question is whether or not they'll pay it down.

Or trade his contract for another at a different position.

[Evil Vito]

All I'm saying is he's seemed comfortable there. A lot more comfortable than I would have expected. Not saying he's a long-term solution there, but if CF is the only way to get him into the lineup in 2017 because they insist on trotting one of Bruce/Granderson out in RF, so be it. He can move to RF in 2018. This is all contingent on retaining Cespedes, which they simply need to do.

In a perfect world...I'd like Cespedes in LF, Conforto in RF, and enough offense coming out of the infield that you can get by with Lagares playing CF every day. Juan is still amazing defensively and kills LHP but is useless against RHP. If you have a strong 1-7 though it doesn't matter as much.

Doubt the Mets could get to that point though. Wright and d'Arnaud are always going to be hurt, Flores is the same as Lagares in that he can't hit RHP, and Duda is inconsistent. All of these are more reasons why they need to keep Cespedes as he's the one guy that consistently mashes everybody.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Baltimore Orioles, greatest team of all time.

Jimenez looked good tonight. Happ was a bit off, but battled and kept the team in the game.

We'll see which Gallardo and which Sanchez show up tomorrow. Gonna be fun.

[Emperor Smeat]

Dodgers outfielder Yasiel Puig has been claimed on revocable waivers by an unknown team, Today's Knuckleball reported Tuesday. The Dodgers can now try to work out a trade with the team.

[Emperor Smeat]

It's possible to challenge a play even after losing an earlier challenge?

Rays manager just did a second challenge even though he lost the first one earlier in the game. Guess the guys on NESN said its possible to use an ump's challenge but didn't seem like the ump himself disagreed with the call at first.

Could see if it was the ump who initiated but it was the Rays manager who requested it be done.

[Droford]

prediction : Boston falls out of the Wild Card before the aorioles do

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Prediction: wishful thinking

[Droford]

They're 1 game ahead of the Orioles.

[Evil Vito]

Granderson with 2 HR off the bench tonight. I think he'd be motivated being an expensive bench player next year. ;)

[Evil Vito]

Granderson 2016 HR: 22
Granderson 2016 RBI: 38

lol that is almost impossible

[Damian Rey 2.0]

They're 1 game ahead of the Orioles.

On July1. Baltimore was 4 games up in the division. On August 1 they were one game up.

29 days later, they've not only lost first place, they're now one game behind Boston and have dropped to 3rd place.

Context is s real thing Droford. You make it sound like Baltimore is sounding the charge and making a run from behind. The reality is the opposite. Their lousy pitching and run differential is catching up to them and they're falling out of it.

[poopfromweiner dude]

ORIOLES are gunna get there ass swept this weekend dro

[Droford]

On July1. Baltimore was 4 games up in the division. On August 1 they were one game up.

29 days later, they've not only lost first place, they're now one game behind Boston and have dropped to 3rd place.

Context is s real thing Droford. You make it sound like Baltimore is sounding the charge and making a run from behind. The reality is the opposite. Their lousy pitching and run differential is catching up to them and they're falling out of it.
Same for Boston really..

[Damian Rey 2.0]

No Droford. Not really. Boston didn't go from 4 games up to 3rd place in less than 2 months.

[Ruien]

Lol

[Droford]

Boston was 2 games up in 1st on June 1st

July 26h they were 2.5 games back in 3rd

[Damian Rey 2.0]

So 2 is the same as 4?

[Droford]

How much of a difference is there between 2 games and 4 games..it not like the Orioles blew a 10 game lead. I don't think either Red Sox Jays or Orioles have had bigger than 4 game lead so far..

[Droford]

Fangraphs (http://www.fangraphs.com/depthcharts.aspx?position=Standings) has the Orioles going 16-14 remaining 30 games to finish 88-74 and get the 2nd wildcard playing Boston.

If 88 wins is the magic number then Detroit would have to go 18-12, Houston 19-11, The Yankees 21-10, KC 20-10 and Seattle 21-9. None of these teams could play .600+ ball the entire year and now I'm supposed to be worried..nah. Plus Seattle and Houston play 6 more times and Detroit and KC play 6 times..

[Droford]

Orioles claimed Drew Stubbs..If only it were like..2011 although he has 8 SB which is 6 less than the entire orioles team

[Droford]

Also looking at Michael Bourn from the Dbacks

[Bad News Gertner]

Did the O's pick up a garbage can in those deals? Because that's where those players belong.

[Ruien]

Lol. Tied with Detroit now.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Did the O's pick up a garbage can in those deals? Because that's where those players belong.

lmfao

[Ruien]

Remember when Droford said Boston and Toronto had no show at winning the division? Lol.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Saunders was eating dickcheese until the Oriole series. Couldn't fucking believe he hit a bomb off of Brach.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Remember when Droford said Boston and Toronto had no show at winning the division? Lol.

It's almost like he'd never seen a season of baseball before.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

4 games is pretty much the same as 2 games guys.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

In fairness to the Orioles if their starters pitch how they pitched against the Jays, they actually have a good chance of getting back into it.

[poopfromweiner dude]

SPREAD YOUR ASS CHEEKS DROFORD ILL GET THE BROOM

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I don't think we'll be seeing Dro for a while.

[Ruien]

Lol.

[Emperor Smeat]

The unknown team that claimed Los Angeles Dodgers outfielder Yasiel Puig on revocable waivers was more interested in blocking him from going to another team than in trading for him, a league source has told ESPN's Jim Bowden.

[Droford]

Fuckin Yankees


With just three days remaining for the Orioles to add players to their roster who would be able to play in the postseason, the scramble is on. However, the Yankees—who are lower in the standings—have priority on waiver claims. That means that any player put on waivers—including revocable ones—must first pass through every team lower in the standings than the Orioles in order for the Orioles to be able to work out a deal.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

lol

[Nicky Fives]

Smart moves by Orioles to sure up their outfield, I'm disappointed Jays didn't add another left-handed reliever, come postseason time I don't think the combo of Cecil & Loup will be enough to get it done....

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Smart moves by Orioles to sure up their outfield, I'm disappointed Jays didn't add another left-handed reliever, come postseason time I don't think the combo of Cecil & Loup will be enough to get it done....

I'm sure they tried but mo move was available to make. Cecil could potentially find his form.

[ClockShot]

Fuckin Yankees



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You honestly think we're the only team doing this?

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Bourn brings zero to Baltimore. He's not the base runner he once was and he's a zero at the plate. They'd be better off giving Joey Rickard more playing time, and that guy fucking sucks.

[Nicky Fives]

I'm sure they tried but mo move was available to make. Cecil could potentially find his form.

Even if he does, I want more than one reliable lefty to come out of the pen.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Well we can hope Aaron Loup is possessed by the ghost of of Randy Johnson.

[Droford]

Bourn brings zero to Baltimore. He's not the base runner he once was and he's a zero at the plate. They'd be better off giving Joey Rickard more playing time, and that guy fucking sucks.

He has 1 less SB (13) than the entire Orioles team. And Rickards season is done he got out on the 60 day DL

[Droford]

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You honestly think we're the only team doing this?
I'm regards to Puig i know it was the Yankees

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

It's called gamesmanship Droford. They are now direct wild card rivals since you know, Baltimore has completely shit the bed after the all star break.

[poopfromweiner dude]

So excited to watch dro's horny O's get completely ASSfucked <<< nudey girls click here

[poopfromweiner dude]

Dro what's going to happen on Monday when the Orioles are in 4th place

[Damian Rey 2.0]

He has 1 less SB (13) than the entire Orioles team. And Rickards season is done he got out on the 60 day DL

Stolen bases and base running are two different things. The latter is all encompassing. The former is not.

He also gets on base 30 points below league average and hasb zero pop. So you have a guy who's an out machine who's one decent skill is contingent on doing something he sucks at; getting on base.

He sucks Droford. There's no way around it.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

And good for Baltimore that Rickard is out. He sucks. Losing a terrible defender who can't hit is addition by subtraction. Except when you replace with a player almost as bad in Michael Bourn.

[Droford]

Dro what's going to happen on Monday when the Orioles are in 4th place

The Orioles will still be in 3rd. Primarily because they're 2.5 up and even though it's a 3 game series there's little chance they play tomorrow's game.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Hawk Harrelson went on a mini rant insinuating that Kris Bryant isn't much if at all better than Todd Frazier. Said that because Bryant is hitting 90 points higher it's skewed the perception.

Then went on to say Frazier is better defensively and is right on Bryant's tail in homers and ribbies.

Lmao someone take Hawk out to pasture. The game has passed him by.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Is he not ranked the worst commentator in baseball?

[Droford]

6-0 os in the 2nd knocked Green out already
Alvarez Davis and Trumbo with HRs

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Don't get ahead of yourself Droford. Your ridiculously pro Baltimore comments aren't much better than Hawk's homer shtick.

[Evil Vito]

Jay Bruce is so fucking bad. Holy shit.

I would honestly be fine with firing Sandy for that trade alone. He brings NOTHING to the table. Nothing. And it only cost us the prospect that made Sandy deem it worth to not even try to bring back Daniel fucking Murphy.

[Droford]

Don't get ahead of yourself Droford. Your ridiculously pro Baltimore comments aren't much better than Hawk's homer shtick.

Os 2 hit the Yankees 8-0 and the Rays beat the Jays 8-3

3 GB now

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

best team in baseball history. They won a game.

[Droford]

Toronto is on their way to being tied for 1st with the Red Sox and os only 2 gb. Can't wait to mock them when they lose a 4 game lead

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

19-3 for Porcello and first place in the ALE. Cy Young?

[DaveWadding]

I wonder if Zach Britton gets his PEDs from Eric Gagne.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Toronto is on their way to being tied for 1st with the Red Sox and os only 2 gb. Can't wait to mock them when they lose a 4 game lead

lol just remember the only reason we rip on the Os is because you are insufferable. If you read my posts, I'm quite complementary of them. You're just a huge baby.

Fucking pesky Rays. Could see this coming. If the pitching for the Rays stays the same next year they could have a good year.

Snell was really good, but I was more impressed with Cobb on Friday. First start in a long time, gets a bit roughed up in the first inning and then proceeds to deal for the next 4.

Archer, Cobb, Snell and Odorizzi is a pretty scary rotation.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

The Rays just need some offense outside of Longo. For a team that was so well built internally they've actually whiffed on some drafts the past couple of years in terms of position players.

And did the Jays ever have a 4 game lead on the 2nd place team? Feel like Boston and Toronto have been neck and neck for a while. Unless Droford means Baltimore was 4 games back, in 3rd place, which is completely different to when they dropped a 4 game lead over the second place team.

But 2 and 4 is the same guys. Just like Baltimore's pitching staff isn't much different than Boston's, and Chris Davis and Adam Jones aren't overpaid underperformers.

[Ruien]

I think Boston will tale the division. They just seem consistent where the Jays and O's are streaky. I want Toronto to win it though since Droford thinks they are garbage.

[Evil Vito]

MLB is praying for Boston to make it to the World Series so they can milk the Big Papi Retirement Tour angle as long as possible.

Big Papi retirement vs. Cubs World Series drought is the matchup they most certainly want, although the Even Year Giants making yet another run to the playoffs is an easy sell for them too.

[Evil Vito]

http://m.mlb.com/video/topic/70089766/v1132065183?cid=nym

Michael Conforto: Major League center fielder

[Evil Vito]

Much as I love Thor, he desperately needs to work on holding runners on. Opposing baserunners have stolen 45 bases on him this year, that's nearly double the second highest total in the league. He's also closing in on the single-season record of 60.

He has a really high leg kick pitching out of the stretch and he comes to set so deliberately that he's tipping off runners that he's 100% committed to throwing to the plate. A lot of the stolen bags against him come without a throw even being made because they've gotten such a huge jump.

He rarely even throws over to first or second. It's like he pays the runners no mind because he just assumes he can strike everybody out. Obviously when he's on he's fucking filthy, but he's still gotta pay attention to the runners.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

You're being really nit picky I think. Guy has stranded roughly 75% of runners each of the last 2 seasons. Stolen bases don't mean squat if they can't score. Greg Maddux used to say he dgaf about stolen bases for the same reason.

[Emperor Smeat]

I think Boston will tale the division. They just seem consistent where the Jays and O's are streaky. I want Toronto to win it though since Droford thinks they are garbage.

Sox can be just as streaky as the Jays and Os though.

Biggest positive right now for the Sox is Price finally getting into an Ace-like groove for the rotation. Been pretty good the last 5-6 starts and not a huge disappointment or streaky like earlier in the season.


MLB is praying for Boston to make it to the World Series so they can milk the Big Papi Retirement Tour angle as long as possible.

Big Papi retirement vs. Cubs World Series drought is the matchup they most certainly want, although the Even Year Giants making yet another run to the playoffs is an easy sell for them too.
Always wondered how much MLB regretted Sox-Cubs not happening in 2003. That probably would have been the greatest World Series ever in terms of hype.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Much as I love Thor, he desperately needs to work on holding runners on. Opposing baserunners have stolen 45 bases on him this year, that's nearly double the second highest total in the league. He's also closing in on the single-season record of 60.

He has a really high leg kick pitching out of the stretch and he comes to set so deliberately that he's tipping off runners that he's 100% committed to throwing to the plate. A lot of the stolen bags against him come without a throw even being made because they've gotten such a huge jump.

He rarely even throws over to first or second. It's like he pays the runners no mind because he just assumes he can strike everybody out. Obviously when he's on he's fucking filthy, but he's still gotta pay attention to the runners.

No, I'd rather have somebody have Josh Beckett's approach. He focuses on the batter and tries to strike them out. Clay Bucholtz always pisses me off because he focuses all of his attention on the guy on first base. Throws a shitty pitch and it's a 2 run-home run or walks the guy.

[Evil Vito]

You're being really nit picky I think. Guy has stranded roughly 75% of runners each of the last 2 seasons. Stolen bases don't mean squat if they can't score. Greg Maddux used to say he dgaf about stolen bases for the same reason.

The other night Trea Turner (remember him???) led off the game with a single, then stole second and third by a mile and later came on to score on a sac fly. You're nuts if you don't think holding runners on matters. Absolutely nuts. It can be the difference between a free run.

[Evil Vito]

You learn how to hold runners on in Little League.

Again I'm not trying to bury Thor as he's been great but it's still a clear weakness in his game. They've had to saddle him with Rene Rivera as his personal catcher solely because he has a better chance of throwing out runners than d'Arnaud. They know teams will run wild if he allows a baserunner.

[Evil Vito]

Oh yeah and also Maddux's motion out of the stretch was a hell of a lot less extreme than Thor's. He didn't actually need to worry about runners because he didn't telegraph it every time he was going to the plate.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

The other night Trea Turner (remember him???) led off the game with a single, then stole second and third by a mile and later came on to score on a sac fly. You're nuts if you don't think holding runners on matters. Absolutely nuts. It can be the difference between a free run.

Stealing 3rd is such a rarity it shouldn't really be brought up when trying to make the argument.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

75% of the time Vito, a runner who gets on is stranded against Thor. You're being really nit picky and pointing out one instance where a run happened to score is not evidence. It's confirmation bias.

Thor is just fine as a dominant, top of the rotation starter. He's top 10 in WAR, ERA, FIP, K9, BB9, earned runs allowed, strikeouts, etc.

You're literally complaining for the sole reason of complaining. For some guys, yes, holding runners is important. For Syndergaard, it's not. He does more than enough with runners on to limit them scoring, specifically by punching out guys.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Dastardly Devon Travis with a 2 run single to tie it

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

One thing impressive about the Jays is I can't remember the last time they lost 3 in a row. Yeah, they'll fuck around and lose 2 against shitty teams, but they're a very good team at stopping the bleeding. I feel like most of this year has been them stopping the bleeding, which is why they are where they are at, positive and negative.


And LOL Damo. GIMMICK INFRINGEMENT YOU MOTHERFUCKER

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

honestly think if Russ Martin wasn't a catcher (ie. the toll on his body) he could hit 30 home runs a year. Dude is a beast. He had 7 home runs 3 weeks ago

[Damian Rey 2.0]

He was originally a 3rd baseman I believe.

The strength with Toronto is its rotation. They have an incredibly strong staff and when you're that deep, it's not hard to avoid going into extended slumps.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Bullpen saved them today. Anything to avoid a losing skid.

lol poor Chris Archer. I really like that guy too.

[Evil Vito]

Stealing 3rd is such a rarity it shouldn't really be brought up when trying to make the argument.

People have been stealing third on Thor all season.

[Evil Vito]

75% of the time Vito, a runner who gets on is stranded against Thor. You're being really nit picky and pointing out one instance where a run happened to score is not evidence. It's confirmation bias.

Thor is just fine as a dominant, top of the rotation starter. He's top 10 in WAR, ERA, FIP, K9, BB9, earned runs allowed, strikeouts, etc.

You're literally complaining for the sole reason of complaining. For some guys, yes, holding runners is important. For Syndergaard, it's not. He does more than enough with runners on to limit them scoring, specifically by punching out guys.

Nobody here is saying that Thor isn't good. I'm saying that he could be that much better if he actually started to pay attention when people are on base.

Right now any runner with the slightest bit of speed who is able to work out a single or a walk against Thor is a cinch to take second. So those singles ostensibly become doubles. And on days when Thor doesn't have his best stuff, it leads to a lot of free runs.

That 75% runners stranded figure would get even better, which would make him even better than he already is. I have no doubt it's gonna be something he works on this winter since he's otherwise not gonna be throwing.

[Evil Vito]

Glad Bill Simmons said today was the worst Red Sox loss of the season...I'm sure he's only watched about 7 games this year since he's usually too busy jerking off to NBA material.

#BillSimmonsPost

[Damian Rey 2.0]

He's putting up a 5 WAR season Vito. At 23. Maddux put up the same kind of season at the same age. Of course every pitcher has room to improve. But I still think you're reaching. Syndergaard is an absolute stud and he's yet to peak physically. Just enjoy it while it lasts.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Oh and Maddux's left on base rate is nearly identical to Syndergaard's is now. Thor will be just fine.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Glad Bill Simmons said today was the worst Red Sox loss of the season...I'm sure he's only watched about 7 games this year since he's usually too busy jerking off to NBA material.

#BillSimmonsPost

How is it any worse than any other loss? They took 2 of 3 and got bit late in a game like it could happen to any other team. I get there was a no hit bid, but shit happens. Unless it is a clinching game or you blow a huge lead in a game I can't see how any one loss is worse than another.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Even if it's one of those types of losses, it counts as just one loss.

If nothing else it might push Rodriguez in the right direction to give him some confidence. He's had a disappointing season.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Well yeah that's pretty much what I was getting at. Just in a clinching game (ie. you get clinched on) you're completely fucked, and a really badly blown game is a lost opportunity.
But I 100 per cent agree in that no matter how you lose it, it's a loss. Some sting worse in the moment, but it can all be changed by going out there and winning the very next night.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Agreed you handsome bastard.

In other news, I see Baltimore has dropped back down to 3 games out. The rate they're going they will be fighting for a second wild card spot, and I like Detroit with either Verlander or Michael Fulmer, who I like more than anything Baltimore has.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Dickey apart from maybe 3 starts since the break has been utterly woeful. And the best part about his starts is Josh Thole gets to play, which means essentially an auto-out in your lineup.

Oh and Gibbons decided it a great idea to sit Troy Tulowitzki lol

[Droford]

Ubaldo with a CG 2 hitter..no hit the Rays the final 8 innings. Crazy.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

he looked good against the Jays too

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Padres aren't going to do either of you two favors. They're about to get stomped by Boston.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

:'(

[Emperor Smeat]

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[Droford]

Padres aren't going to do either of you two favors. They're about to get stomped by Boston.

If by get stomped you mean losing..er..winning.. 2-1 then I fully endorse their actions

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I was stunned they won. But I wouldn't expect it to continue. At this point I want the Padres to lose so they can net a higher draft spot and bigger bonus pool

[Evil Vito]

What are everybody's thoughts on expanded rosters in September? It seems to be an annual point of contention amongst the talking heads.

The usual complaints are that there are 5 million substitutions which contradict Manfred's pace of play initiatives (looking at you, Dusty Baker) and that in general it's just dumb to play the crucial final month of the season with a different set of rules.

I get all that, but at the same time I think a month in the big leagues is a great reward for players who had good years in the minor leagues, and it can help to replenish a battered team late along with letting teams who are out of it give looks to their young players.

The only real solution I can find would be that you can call up as many players from your 40 man roster as you want after rosters expand, but you have to submit a list of 25 available players for each game like you would in the Wild Card Game.

[Ruien]

I like the expanding rosters. The crappy teams get to let their young players try to shine on the big stage.

[Evil Vito]

Yeah I'd never want to take away the expanded rosters entirely, but I'd be okay with having a 25 man roster per game. So between 25-40 guys travel with the team in September depending on how many you want to call up, but only 25 can play in a specific game.

Pretty sure most managers would just declare the 4 starting pitchers that aren't pitching that day inactive, so that would theoretically free up 4 spots on the "normal" roster. A manaer could choose to activate 2 extra relievers and 2 extra bench guys, for instance.

[Evil Vito]

Actually I'd love a full-on expansion to a 27 man roster in general if it encouraged teams to carry extra bench players. If I were managing a club I'd use both of those extra spots on my bench, especially on a NL team.

[Emperor Smeat]

Always saw expanded rosters more as a way for fans of teams that stunk a chance to get happy for next season because of prospects getting a chance to shine and teams in the hunt for the playoffs a chance to set their post-season rosters.

Maybe if MLB tweaked the minor league system or playoff rules, they could have expanded rosters be longer than just the final month of the season. If anything, MLB's playoff rules for rosters might be a bit too strict especially if injuries happen. Not sure if they changed it recently but think if an injury happens either in the Wild Card or Divisional series, teams can't replenish the spot with someone else for either that series or the next one.

[Droford]

Yankees about to beat the Jays again.
Tigers losing
Royals losing

Orioles winning 9-2