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Ol Dirty Dastard
08-01-2016, 04:23 PM
What's the scuttlebutt on Scott Feldman? Good swing guy?

Innovator
08-01-2016, 04:40 PM
Niese back to the Mets

Evil Vito
08-01-2016, 04:43 PM
I fucking hate Jon Niese but I'd rather have him and his expiring contract than Bastardo's inflated 2017 salary. It's a crap for crap deal that makes sense for the Mets.

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-01-2016, 05:17 PM
Jays get liriano, hopefully Russ Martin is the remedy for Lirianos problem.

Emperor Smeat
08-01-2016, 05:30 PM
Red Sox-Twins trade:
Red Sox get Fernando Abad
Twins get a prospect (Pat Light)


More bullpen help is nice but then again probably wouldn't have been needed if recent trades for pitching didn't end up being bad. Bit relieved Dombrowski didn't cave in and go after starting pitchers like Chris Sale since the White Sox were asking for too much. He hinted before the trade deadline he had around 5 offers in the talks but didn't take them due to the demands asked.

ClockShot
08-01-2016, 05:38 PM
I'd figure some team would pay up and grab Chris Sale. Kenny Williams' price must have scared a lot of teams away.

Chris Archer's name was being tossed around. Would have liked the Yankees to make a play for him.

Emperor Smeat
08-01-2016, 05:43 PM
Yeup, White Sox were asking for too many prospects for a deal to get Sale. A rumored Red Sox deal would have involved them losing around 4 prospects with 3 being top tier just to get Sale.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">heard chisox and red sox recently talked on sale. scuttlebutt is CWS seek at least 4 guys from BOS, including 3 of best.</p>&mdash; Jon Heyman (@JonHeyman) <a href="https://twitter.com/JonHeyman/status/760127443609026560">August 1, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Droford
08-01-2016, 07:12 PM
What's the scuttlebutt on Scott Feldman? Good swing guy?

The Orioles traded a future Cy Young winner for him 3 years ago

Evil Vito
08-01-2016, 11:28 PM
Cool. Mets blow two leads and lose to the Yanks. 3rd game they've blown a late lead in the last week.

Good thing they had to trade their 2B of the future for Jay Bruce.

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-02-2016, 01:07 AM
John Gibbons has replaced Jesse Chavez with Scott Feldman right off the bat... and by that I mean the reliever he's going to abuse and hang out to dry. He literally threw 40 pitches yesterday out of the bullpen, and Gibby trots him out there in the 15th to pitch to his old team. Would have rather had Dickey come in, in that kind of situation.

What drives me nuts is Gibbons escapes the wrath of the media. Nobody ever points the finger at him. He's a nice guy, he is a man of character... but I just don't think he's equipped to be an elite manager. He is just not a thinker.

SlickyTrickyDamon
08-02-2016, 01:15 AM
Sox win. Pull within 1 of the Os again.

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-02-2016, 01:32 AM
such a dogfight in the east. Gonna be a stressful 2 months for all of us methinks.

Droford
08-02-2016, 05:20 AM
Well the good news for the Jays and Red Sox is they'll both probably be the wild cards

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-02-2016, 09:31 AM
you're rather arrogant for someone on a team without starting pitching.

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-02-2016, 09:31 AM
Also, great job on the weekend from Baltimore taking 2 of 3 from the Jays.

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-02-2016, 09:31 AM
....oh wait.

Nicky Fives
08-02-2016, 10:37 AM
John Gibbons has replaced Jesse Chavez with Scott Feldman right off the bat... and by that I mean the reliever he's going to abuse and hang out to dry. He literally threw 40 pitches yesterday out of the bullpen, and Gibby trots him out there in the 15th to pitch to his old team. Would have rather had Dickey come in, in that kind of situation.

What drives me nuts is Gibbons escapes the wrath of the media. Nobody ever points the finger at him. He's a nice guy, he is a man of character... but I just don't think he's equipped to be an elite manager. He is just not a thinker.

Yup. Lots of head scratching decision for sure.

Damian Rey 2.0
08-02-2016, 11:41 AM
The thing with Gibbs is that he's likely to see his club surge into the playoffs in back to back to years. And while that's largely independent from him, it doesn't give Toronto a reason to go another direction.

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-02-2016, 11:49 AM
The more the games play out, the more it seems Russ Martin is managing the team lol

Droford
08-02-2016, 01:45 PM
you're rather arrogant for someone on a team without starting pitching.

2nd best bullpen in baseball. Vs the Jays they pitched 16. Innings Outside of the disaster on Saturday 3.2 ip 4 er the rest was scoreless.

Let's also not forget that the Red Sox and Blue Jays starting pitching is also questionable so it's not like either of them have some huge advantage in their rotations. Plus the Blue Jays best starter is about to go to the bullpen for Scott Feldman lol. And the Red Sox traded for Pomeranz who has a 7.53 ERA in 14 innings over 3 starts..

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-02-2016, 01:54 PM
The Jays starting rotation has the most quality starts in the league along with either the 2nd best or best ERA in the league. Yeah, there's the Sanchez question, but their starting pitching is better than Baltimore's.

All 3 teams have problems. Baltimore definitely has the best bullpen but plain bad starting pitching.

This is your problem, you're such a homer. I'm totally willing to talk baseball with you, but you're such a condescending little fuckwad about your home team. Get a fucking life.

RP
08-02-2016, 03:21 PM
Dude the GM for the Reds is so bad. I feel for the Reds. I really do.

Droford
08-02-2016, 03:36 PM
The Jays starting rotation has the most quality starts in the league along with either the 2nd best or best ERA in the league. Yeah, there's the Sanchez question, but their starting pitching is better than Baltimore's.

All 3 teams have problems. Baltimore definitely has the best bullpen but plain bad starting pitching.

This is your problem, you're such a homer. I'm totally willing to talk baseball with you, but you're such a condescending little fuckwad about your home team. Get a fucking life.

The Orioles rotation is not that bad even when compared to the Jays.
Tillman and Happ are basically equal. Sure Estrada and Sanchez are better than Gausman and Gallardo now but when Sanchez goes to the bullpen and it's Estrada and Liriano it's a little less lopsided unless Liriano turns around with Martin as his catcher a la their time in Pittsburgh. Then you have Miley and Bundy vs Stroman and Rickey which I will call a wash

The Orioles had a sub .500 July on account of their offense going stone cold as they only scored more than 5 runs 3 times (6 runs each time) and not between July 7th and July 30th. The pitching was good enough to win games if they were scoring runs as even over that 3 week stretch they still managed to go 9-10.

Damian Rey 2.0
08-02-2016, 03:54 PM
Droford, you realize we now have access to endless information that makes what you're saying look completely foolish, and in turn makes you look like an idiot.

Toronto ranks number fucking 1 in the AL starting pitcher WAR with 10 WAR. Baltimore ranks 11, i.e bottom third.

Toronto ranks 1 in ERA. Baltimore ranks 13.

Toronto ranks 4th in fielding independent pitching. Baltimore ranks 12th. I.e., Toronto's starters are far more dominant and less reliant on luck and defense, while Baltimore isn't.

Toronto's starters also lead their league in accumulated innings pitched. Baltimore is dead fucking last.

It's not even close. Why are you so incapable of just telling it like it is. Baltimore has one of the worst starting rotations in the league.

Yes, the bullpen is better. But a bullpen is useless if your starters are going 5 innings and giving up runs left and right. Not to mention, we've seen it time and again that relying on your pen all season can disastrous.

The Orioles are 2nd in the AL in reliever innings pitched. They are surrounded by the Twins, Angels, Athletics and Royals. None of those teams are contenders. The Orioles lucked out in that their offense was able to bandaid over their pitching problems. But that's starting to crater. Boston and Toronto are on their ass, each 1game behind. Each making upgrades at the deadline and in Boston's case, having depth on the farm to bolster the roster.

The gap is closing for Baltimore.

Evil Vito
08-02-2016, 04:02 PM
Dude the GM for the Reds is so bad. I feel for the Reds. I really do.

He played Sandy Alderson like a fiddle.

It was supposed to be Brandon Nimmo and two pitching prospects for Jay Bruce. A reasonable trade. Mets already had Conforto so Nimmo was expendable especially with Bruce having another year under contract.

Instead they found some bullshit in the medicals for one of the pitchers the Mets were giving up and told Sandy at the last possible second that he can keep Nimmo and the "injured" pitcher if he throws in Herrera, and Sandy caved because he'd have gotten reamed for doing nothing.

Trading Herrera was such a mistake. Makes me sick just thinking about it.

Evil Vito
08-02-2016, 04:05 PM
Assuming the Mets don't re-sign Cespedes or Walker...which both seem highly likely. The Mets are gonna have something like this:

C: Travis d'Arnaud
1B: Lucas Duda
2B: Jose Reyes
SS: Asdrubal Cabrera
3B: David Wright
OF: Jay Bruce, Curtis Granderson, and a Michael Conforto/Juan Lagares platoon in the other spot

That's 5 players with expiring deals (Bruce, Granderson, Reyes, Cabrera, Duda) and 2 massive injury risks who aren't even guaranteed to play well at this point (d'Arnaud, Wright).

2017 might be a fucking rebuild year to get to the Amed Rosario, Dom Smith, and Gavin Cecchini "era". Having a rebuild so soon after winning the pennant is a fucking joke. I feel terrible for the pitchers.

Damian Rey 2.0
08-02-2016, 04:06 PM
This trade, yes. The Reds made out. However, they were fleeced in the Cueto and Chapman deals. They did get prospects, but they took quantity over quality. You look at how the Braves and Padres and even Yankees have boosted the strength of their farm by netting quality returns and it makes Cincy look really bad.

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-02-2016, 06:04 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if Baltimore finished number one. Showalter is a great manager... albeit if fucking asshole. Makes better decisions than Gibbons. Their closer is a stud, and the rest of the bullpen is awesome, and they definitely have talent up and down the lineup. Plus the dingers, my god the dingers.

But to discount the 2 teams in the division that are literally right up their ass with 2 months in the season is homerism I cannot abide by.

I will say, #teamshatkins is doing the teams in the East a huge favour putting Sanchez in the bullpen. It will prove to be a cataclysmic decision, and proves amongst many other moves made, that this team is all about low risk, medium reward. I think it's hilarious that will all the experience between Shapiro and Gibbons that they think somehow Sanchez having started all year, will be lights out in the bullpen. He has to change his entire approach. Either let him keep starting or shut him down.

ClockShot
08-02-2016, 06:18 PM
Kinda pissing me off some of the writers/analysts are saying that Yankees selling off was them giving up on the season.

No. Season was lost when we were sitting at .500 for the entire season so far and not gaining any ground. And, the Steinbrenners finally realized they weren't winning any championships with this old, veteran loaded team.

Droford
08-02-2016, 06:22 PM
Droford, you realize we now have access to endless information that makes what you're saying look completely foolish, and in turn makes you look like an idiot.

Toronto ranks number fucking 1 in the AL starting pitcher WAR with 10 WAR. Baltimore ranks 11, i.e bottom third.

Toronto ranks 1 in ERA. Baltimore ranks 13.

Toronto ranks 4th in fielding independent pitching. Baltimore ranks 12th. I.e., Toronto's starters are far more dominant and less reliant on luck and defense, while Baltimore isn't.

Toronto's starters also lead their league in accumulated innings pitched. Baltimore is dead fucking last.

It's not even close. Why are you so incapable of just telling it like it is. Baltimore has one of the worst starting rotations in the league.

Yes, the bullpen is better. But a bullpen is useless if your starters are going 5 innings and giving up runs left and right. Not to mention, we've seen it time and again that relying on your pen all season can disastrous.

The Orioles are 2nd in the AL in reliever innings pitched. They are surrounded by the Twins, Angels, Athletics and Royals. None of those teams are contenders. The Orioles lucked out in that their offense was able to bandaid over their pitching problems. But that's starting to crater. Boston and Toronto are on their ass, each 1game behind. Each making upgrades at the deadline and in Boston's case, having depth on the farm to bolster the roster.

The gap is closing for Baltimore.

Wonder what happens to Toronto's pitching ranks when they replace Sanchez With Liriano who has an almost 5 ERA.
And The Orioles are 11th having started Ubaldo and his 7+ ERA and 1.95 WHIP 18 times. Essentially replacing him with Miley will be a huge improvement. It would seem to me that they'll even out.

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-02-2016, 06:28 PM
But what if Stroman keeps rounding into form? He is seeming to be trending upwardly.

And Wade Miley while pitching better lately hasn't exactly lit the world on fire.

These are 3 very even teams with many different issues, but also many different strengths. Which is why there's only a fucking game between them, you gargantuan knobhead.

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-02-2016, 06:32 PM
And keep in mind, Toronto's bullpen was by far the worst in the league for the first 6 or so weeks of the season. Now they have also rounded into form, with Cecil pitching better, Grilli filling the 8th inning gap and Osuna being very reliable as a closer. Benoit seems to be fitting in quite nicely, as the 5 or 6 appearances he's had for Toronto have seen his ERA drop almost 100 points lol. Joe Biagini hasn't given up an earned run in I don't know how long. I mean i'm not going to act like it's a pen that lights the world on fire for one second, but just the same as Baltimore has VERY SLIGHTLY improved a glaring weakness with their starting pitching, the Jays have actually much improved their leaky bullpen. A bullpen which was pretty damned sturdy against a frustrated Orioles team on Friday night.

I am still holding out on the head office pulling their heads out of their asses with Sanchez and letting him pitch the season out.

Damian Rey 2.0
08-02-2016, 07:22 PM
Wonder what happens to Toronto's pitching ranks when they replace Sanchez With Liriano who has an almost 5 ERA.
And The Orioles are 11th having started Ubaldo and his 7+ ERA and 1.95 WHIP 18 times. Essentially replacing him with Miley will be a huge improvement. It would seem to me that they'll even out.

While Miley is an upgrade, he's not going to even out the entire staff. Even if you take Sanchez out of Toronto's rotation, they're still better than Baltimore. Adding Miley doesn't change that.

Droford
08-02-2016, 08:15 PM
Dylan Bundy had a perfect game through 5 last Wednesday vs Rockies and has a no hitter tonight through 5 vs the Rangers.

Edit Bundy 7 inning 1 hit 1 walk 7 ks 88 pitches

The kids alright

If everything stays as is I'll get to see him pitch next Friday in San Francisco

Droford
08-02-2016, 09:00 PM
Orioles have 3 solo homers off Darvish (plus another off the bullpen). Only other time the Os faces Darvish amazingly was the 2012 wild card game

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-02-2016, 09:07 PM
Orioles have 3 solo homers off Darvish (plus another off the bullpen). Only other time the Os faces Darvish amazingly was the 2012 wild card game

Greatest team of all times.

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-02-2016, 11:19 PM
Jays win 2-1 against Astros tonight. Greatest starting pitching, greatest bullpen and clutchest bats of all times. Going to sweep the playoffs. Baltimore may get lucky and get the 2nd wildcard spot.

Droford
08-03-2016, 01:30 AM
At least the Sox lost. David Price went 7 scoreless and then have up 4 runs (3 off him directly) in the 8th. Abad came in for his debut and gave up a homer to the first batter (Cano) he faced.

Sox have bigger pitching problems than the Orioles. If it wasn't for Porcello theyd be really in a mess..

RP
08-03-2016, 12:43 PM
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RP
08-03-2016, 09:36 PM
The one sad thing at this point in the season is that, despite the Cubs being the best team in baseball, the Washington Nationals have been completely overlooked. That is a heck of a baseball team. My mouth waters at a Cubs vs Nats NLCS.

Damian Rey 2.0
08-03-2016, 09:39 PM
Daniel Murphy has a legit stake in this year's mvp convo.

RP
08-03-2016, 09:47 PM
And no one is talking about it.

RP
08-03-2016, 09:49 PM
Honestly, i cant possibly make an argument for Bryant or Rizzo over Murphy right now. I'm the biggest homer ever and i cant make an argument.

RP
08-03-2016, 09:50 PM
He's literally putting on the greatest season any 2nd Baseman has ever had.

Lock Jaw
08-03-2016, 10:50 PM
Joe, be a genie tonight

Evil Vito
08-04-2016, 12:09 AM
Murph will definitely win MVP. No Met has ever won MVP in history so of course a guy they fucking let walk away for nothing is going to win it.

Droford
08-04-2016, 12:10 AM
He's literally putting on the greatest season any 2nd Baseman has ever had.

Better year than when Pedroia won the MVP in 08 but I think the big factor is Pedroia played for the Red Sox..Murphy ain't winning the MVP

Also would like nothing more than os vs Nats WS because of the while lawsuit thing between the two and MLB

Only team I wouldn't want them to play is the Cubs just because I don't want the Orioles going in history as the team the Cubs finally beat..and theyd basically beat themselves with the trades to the Cubs and thats bad enough.

Evil Vito
08-04-2016, 12:12 AM
Cespedes misses like a week with a quad injury. Then plays tonight and hurts himself further in his last AB, meaning he now goes on the DL without the option of backdating it to a week ago.

The slimmest hope the 2016 Mets had of making the postseason is gone. The Bruce trade was fucking pointless and the team sure looks like it will be fielding a worse roster to start 2017 than they did in 2016.

Fucking kill me.

YOUR Hero
08-04-2016, 12:27 AM
Don't look now, but Detroit has won 8 in a row and are tied with the Red Sox for the 2nd widcard.
Go Jays

RP
08-04-2016, 12:52 AM
Better year than when Pedroia won the MVP in 08 but I think the big factor is Pedroia played for the Red Sox..Murphy ain't winning the MVP

Also would like nothing more than os vs Nats WS because of the while lawsuit thing between the two and MLB

Only team I wouldn't want them to play is the Cubs just because I don't want the Orioles going in history as the team the Cubs finally beat..and theyd basically beat themselves with the trades to the Cubs and thats bad enough.

:lol:

No, i'm pretty sure Murphy will win it.

RP
08-04-2016, 12:56 AM
Murphy is only 1st in average, 1st in Slugging, 1st in OPS, 2nd in RBI, 8th in runs, and 21 HR's.

Damian Rey 2.0
08-04-2016, 01:03 AM
He's also terrible in defense, average at best on the bases. Defense and base running matter.

I'd give Bryant the nod. He does everything plus. Hits for average, gets in base, hits for power, runs the bases well, plus defender.

Better overall game gets my vote. Murphy def deserves a look, but he's not the best PLAYER.

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-04-2016, 01:07 AM
Don't look now, but Detroit has won 8 in a row and are tied with the Red Sox for the 2nd widcard.
Go Jays

dangerous, dangerous team.

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-04-2016, 01:10 AM
What about Jose Altuve in the AL? This is my first real chance getting to see him but what a fucking hit machine, has power. Good defence and great base runner.

Damian Rey 2.0
08-04-2016, 01:14 AM
Unless he's hurt and misses significant time, I just pencil Trout in each yearl. He's been jobbed 3 times in 4 years. Will probably get the shaft again this year because his team sucks, which is stupid.

Nicky Fives
08-04-2016, 06:43 AM
To me, and MVP means whichever player you take him from his team, that team becomes significantly shittier.... you can take Bryant from the Cubs, and they'd still be pretty decent, same for Donaldson & Murphy. If you take Altuve from Houston, they lose a shit ton, therefore he's my vote....

Damian Rey 2.0
08-04-2016, 10:23 AM
So would the Angels. I think basing an individual award on a team is unfair. The player(s) cannot control the team built around them. Bryant shouldn't be penalized just because his team happens to be stacked. That's not in his control. He's still putting up numbers regardless, and to me, for an individual award, that's what counts most.

If you want to talk about how shitty a team would be, as bad as they are now, the Angels might be worstv team in the league if they didn't have Trout.

Nicky Fives
08-04-2016, 11:44 AM
That's very true, especially with all their injuries.....

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-04-2016, 12:09 PM
Trout and Donaldson #1 and #2 and WAR. Don't get to see enough of Trout but it's odd that he keeps getting snubbed.

Emperor Smeat
08-04-2016, 04:20 PM
Maybe he's the Leo Dicaprio of baseball for the MVP snubbery.

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-04-2016, 06:41 PM
Jays decide to go with 6 man rotation to protect Sanchez. It may throw the pitcher's rhythm off a tad but i think it is an infinitely better decision than putting your young stud in the bullpen. I actually think putting Sanchez in the bullpen would have been more detrimental to him than just shutting him down for the season. He would have been forced to pitch in high leverage, high stress situations, when all year, he has spent most of his time keeping runners off of bases.

Droford
08-04-2016, 07:58 PM
Don't look now, but Detroit has won 8 in a row and are tied with the Red Sox for the 2nd widcard.
Go Jays

Then they go lay up a stinker vs the white sox

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-04-2016, 08:40 PM
8/9 is pretty good Droford

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-04-2016, 10:57 PM
Jayce struck out 60 times in a 4 games and took 3 out of 4. Su h an irritating series to watch. Batting avgs drop, team's record rises

Damian Rey 2.0
08-05-2016, 01:13 AM
As long as they get in base and score runs, it's all that matters. A strikeout, at the end of the day, is just an out.

weather vane
08-05-2016, 01:40 AM
I need to be up to nurse in 4hrs. Red Sox please go yabo. I'm tired.

weather vane
08-05-2016, 01:40 AM
Not breastfeed. Be a nurse. Nndbkbd.

weather vane
08-05-2016, 01:41 AM
Mayor of Ding Dong City just poked one. Let's go Sandy.

weather vane
08-05-2016, 01:43 AM
BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOCCCKKKKK

weather vane
08-05-2016, 01:43 AM
K nite

weather vane
08-05-2016, 01:46 AM
Dolph Ziegler don't miss no more baby.

weather vane
08-05-2016, 01:46 AM
Text me if they come back please.

weather vane
08-05-2016, 01:46 AM
Nudes only.

weather vane
08-05-2016, 01:47 AM
#nofatchicks

weather vane
08-05-2016, 01:47 AM
#onlyfatdicks

weather vane
08-05-2016, 01:47 AM
#syke

weather vane
08-05-2016, 01:51 AM
come on

weather vane
08-05-2016, 01:53 AM
One more

weather vane
08-05-2016, 01:58 AM
Boom. Suck it.

Emperor Smeat
08-05-2016, 01:59 AM
Ziegler made that a lot harder than it should have been.

Innovator
08-05-2016, 09:35 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mark Teixeira expected to announce his retirement later today, at 36, effective at the end of the season.</p>&mdash; Buster Olney (@Buster_ESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/Buster_ESPN/status/761548967473733632">August 5, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Ol Dirty Dastard
08-05-2016, 09:36 AM
As long as they get in base and score runs, it's all that matters. A strikeout, at the end of the day, is just an out.

The pitching was also great. They gave up 5 runs in 4 games.

ClockShot
08-05-2016, 05:01 PM
:wavesad: Teixeira.


I'll miss him. But the winds of change are blowing strong in The Bronx.
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RP
08-05-2016, 05:25 PM
Teixara wont be retiring. Thats my prediction. He has too much power bat left to retire. If the Yanks dont want him, someone else would. Yanks failed cause they signed him to such a contract that makes him untradeable. He will be playing again. I'm sure of it. Fuck the Cubs should make a play for him.

Damian Rey 2.0
08-05-2016, 06:03 PM
The guys slugging 340. I don't think any team would give him more than a minor league invite. He looks toast.

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-05-2016, 06:10 PM
Liriano making his debut with the boys in blue tonight. Don't really buy that Russell Martin is some magic cure, even though the guy manages the rotation wonderfully. Pittsburgh has been just as good with its pitchers (as it was where J.A. Happ found his mojo) and Cervelli is apparently as good if not better than Martin.

Only thing that may help is it's a change of scenery and a chance to pitch for a competitor. By all accounts he is an amazing team guy with the right attitude. He's made it clear that if he isn't up to standards he'll be content with a bullpen demotion if that's what helps the team.

Damian Rey 2.0
08-05-2016, 07:29 PM
I like the 6 man rotation idea. All Liriano has to be is average and he'll pay off. Btw, Dastardly, I love that Toronto basically bought top prospects from Pittsburgh. It's adv aggressive move with a possible short term and perhaps even better long term benefit.

ClockShot
08-05-2016, 08:06 PM
Add injuries almost every season, Yankees probably weren't gonna pick up the option for Teixeira after the season anyway.

Last year he was having a hell of a season and pretty much kept the team afloat for the most part. Again, injury did him in.

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-05-2016, 08:16 PM
Yeah, I like that Liriano is ideally serving as more of a shield for Sanchez. Eat up some innings, hopefully find some form and ensure Sanchez isn't over extended and can help the team. You just hope it doesn't throw the stellar rotation out of sink. But once again, by the sounds of it they were all thrilled with the idea.

What do you think of Pete Walker as a pitching coach, Damo?

Damian Rey 2.0
08-05-2016, 09:14 PM
To be honest I don't know much about him. I do know whatever he refined with Marco Estrada has worked out. Also have to point to both Stroman and Sanchez developing under him, as both had questions about whether they'd start.

Droford
08-05-2016, 11:31 PM
Zach Britton has thrown 37.2 scoreless innings since April 30th

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-06-2016, 12:56 AM
Britton is dope af as a closer. Virtually unhittable.

Droford
08-06-2016, 01:58 AM
Pedro Alvarez has 6 hr in last 5 games. Probably the only guy hitting right now consistently.

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-06-2016, 09:15 AM
I see he's only played in 72 games. Was he injured?

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-06-2016, 11:46 AM
Liriano A plus in the first 4 innings. C plus in his last 2. Overall, ate up innings, kept team in the game. Management sent him out there and just said "Do what you do" which is awesome. They'll make adjustments as they go. Guy obviously still has something, but 3rd time through the order is going to be an issue.

Emperor Smeat
08-06-2016, 03:10 PM
A's ended up suspending a coach after discovering he planted hidden cameras in the team's weight room.

www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/17229856/oakland-athletics-discover-hidden-camera-suspend-strength-coach-mike-henriques

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-06-2016, 05:56 PM
Would his motivations be of the erotic variety or just an attempt to sell the tape to another team for scouring purposes? I don't get it.

RP
08-06-2016, 06:39 PM
You know, I feel like the Oakland A's should be such a better organization than they are. I feel like if they were owned buy someone willing to spend some money there, they would blow up big time and that city would show to the games. Still some of the coolest looking colors in the MLB.

ClockShot
08-06-2016, 08:14 PM
Angels DFA Tim Lincecum. His comeback hasn't been that great.

I bet if he converts himself to be a closer, might be able to salvage what would be a great career.

ClockShot
08-06-2016, 08:21 PM
Hoo hoo hoo. A-Rod & the Yankees got a press conference scheduled tomorrow.

I could think of many things that could happen. :D

Here's one of 'em.

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Damian Rey 2.0
08-06-2016, 08:26 PM
Hahaha.

Lincecum fucking sucks. Been that way for a while now. Even as a closer I'd have a hard time seeing him be decent again.

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-06-2016, 08:29 PM
Yeah, he just cannot pitch anymore.

Droford
08-06-2016, 09:38 PM
I see he's only played in 72 games. Was he injured?

Only plays vs RHP

Ruien
08-06-2016, 10:38 PM
Lol Baltimore lost to White Sox with Rodon pitching.

Droford
08-06-2016, 11:18 PM
Blue Jays lost to Kansas City
Boston lost to the Dodgers

So lol

Ruien
08-07-2016, 07:54 AM
Rodon and the White Sox are a hell of a lot worse than those other teams.

You literally just threw a lunch at Detroit for losing to the White Sox too. But Baltimore lost to fn Rodon lol.

ClockShot
08-07-2016, 11:44 AM
The End has arrived.

Alex Rodriguez is finished. Last game is on Friday. He'll remain with the Yankees as a special advisor and instructor.

Something Tex said has his conference must have made him realize he ain't got much left.

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-07-2016, 02:06 PM
Rodon and the White Sox are a hell of a lot worse than those other teams.

You literally just threw a lunch at Detroit for losing to the White Sox too. But Baltimore lost to fn Rodon lol.

In fairness the jays have also lost to Epson. White Sox have had their number this year :-(

Droford
08-07-2016, 03:50 PM
James Shields stinks

Manny has 3 hr and 7 rbi 2nd player in history to hit hr in 1st 2nd and 3rd innings.

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-07-2016, 04:06 PM
Jays bats are comatose. Oh well.

Droford
08-07-2016, 05:41 PM
Just as the Orioles bats come back off life support. 19 runs in 3 games.
Onward to Oakland where I will be Tuesday night.

ClockShot
08-07-2016, 07:33 PM
Congrats to Ichiro Suzuki. Joined the 3,000 hit club tonight.

Droford
08-08-2016, 09:26 AM
Dylan Bundy had been better than even I anticipated him to be at this point after 6 innings 2er and 9 ks in a win yesterday. If there's any minor quibble it's his pitch count (90+ in 6 innings yesterday) gets him pulled but if he can keep going 6 it'll be fine..5 starts 27 innings 33 ks 9 ER

RP
08-08-2016, 02:39 PM
Dylan Bundy had been better than even I anticipated him to be at this point after 6 innings 2er and 9 ks in a win yesterday. If there's any minor quibble it's his pitch count (90+ in 6 innings yesterday) gets him pulled but if he can keep going 6 it'll be fine..5 starts 27 innings 33 ks 9 ER

I know. I cant wait for him to be a Cub next year

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-08-2016, 10:29 PM
Nice win for the Jays tonight. Tbay sucks but you gotta play the games and Rays can play the division tough when they want to. Fucking Forsythe on base 4 times tonight.

weather vane
08-08-2016, 10:50 PM
Baseball sucks.

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-08-2016, 11:39 PM
Fuck Boston. Honestly. Paying David Price the idiotic amount of money makes me hope for their imminent failure. Teams like Boston ensure problems within the league will always exist because they'll sign a great (nothing more than great) pitcher to all that money.

Love Price though, feel bad for him that he's having all of those struggles.

weather vane
08-08-2016, 11:59 PM
That is a dumb take.

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-09-2016, 12:06 AM
Why is it dumb? You really think Bryce Harper should be making 300 mil?

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-09-2016, 12:18 AM
We'll see how Spilchuk feels when the Yankees buy their next team.

Emperor Smeat
08-09-2016, 12:47 AM
Fuck Boston. Honestly. Paying David Price the idiotic amount of money makes me hope for their imminent failure. Teams like Boston ensure problems within the league will always exist because they'll sign a great (nothing more than great) pitcher to all that money.

Love Price though, feel bad for him that he's having all of those struggles.

Part of it is due to Scott Boras being his agent I think and them missing out on last year's crop of big names to grab an Ace. Also didn't help how bad last year's rotation for starters were.

MLB is a lot similar to the NBA in regards to no salary cap or luxury tax not being a real determinant for bigger and attractive market teams. Took until very recently for the Yankees to feel the real effects of the luxury tax.

Innovator
08-09-2016, 10:40 AM
We'll see how Spilchuk feels when the Yankees buy their next team.

Pretty sure the Yanks are done giving 30 year old 7-10 year deals worth a buttload.

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-09-2016, 10:46 AM
Pretty sure the Yanks are done giving 30 year old 7-10 year deals worth a buttload.

One can only hope they've FINALLY learnt their lesson.

Damian Rey 2.0
08-09-2016, 12:30 PM
The Red Sox are almost entirely built on homegrown talent with their offense. Yes they have made some free agent signings, but 3/4 of their infield and their entire outfield are products of their farm system.

It's why they're likely to sustain long-term success. I view them almost as model an organization as the Cardinals.

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-09-2016, 12:37 PM
I'm fond of the homegrown talent. I like their lineup. But I cannot abide by 217 million dollars for a snake bitten ace, it makes a complete mockery of everything. In my opinion, that signing was a complete fucking joke. I like David Price, but at most that guy is worth a lengthy 150 million dollar contract and even that is all kinds of gaudy and gross.

I will say, even the Yankees when they were buying and selling the league had tremendous scouting and a lot of their best talent was home grown. But there is always that breaking point when it seems all the big money players go there and they are signing these game killing contracts.

Damian Rey 2.0
08-09-2016, 12:37 PM
Oh look. Blue Jays are tied for first. Perhaps Baltimore has peaked too soon.

Damian Rey 2.0
08-09-2016, 12:44 PM
I'm fond of the homegrown talent. I like their lineup. But I cannot abide by 217 million dollars for a snake bitten ace, it makes a complete mockery of everything. In my opinion, that signing was a complete fucking joke. I like David Price, but at most that guy is worth a lengthy 150 million dollar contract and even that is all kinds of gaudy and gross.

I will say, even the Yankees when they were buying and selling the league had tremendous scouting and a lot of their best talent was home grown. But there is always that breaking point when it seems all the big money players go there and they are signing these game killing contracts.

The Yankees gave up on homegrown talent after their initial dynasty. Early 2000s is when they literally started buying everyone and became the evil empire. They're finally realizing that's a poor way to do things.

And Price is getting paid what his market value is. He deserves to go to the highest bidder, just like any of is in our own job market. The owners rake in so much money that the discrepancy between what they make, and what the players who generate that income make, is still a large one at the least.

Grienke got an equally lengthy, gaudy deal. Because that's the new market. The Yankees are eating A-Rod's contract like it ain't shit. Because it isn't. Look at what J.A. Happ and Estrada got this year. Guys who've had zero previous extended success. No way they make out on those types of deals even 5 years ago.

Even my sorry ass Padres are eating a large sum of money to jettison players. Revenue streams are greater than they've ever been. $30 mil is the new $20mil now. This has been trending in that direction for a while now.

And to answer your earlier question, yes, Bryce Harper is def worth whatever contract he signs. Just like A-Rod was when the Rangers gave him the then "worst contract ever".

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-09-2016, 01:08 PM
Don't get me wrong, I think these guys should sign what is offered, I just think what is being offered is fucking ridiculous. There needs to be better regulations on this sort of nonsense.

poopfromweiner dude
08-09-2016, 01:14 PM
stfu

this is goddamn AMERICA last time I checked

poopfromweiner dude
08-09-2016, 01:18 PM
@Damien Ray - isn't there a way to use WAR to determine whether a player "plays to, above or below" their contract

Not sure exactly how else to phrase that. But the original A-Rod contract is def a good example...

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-09-2016, 01:19 PM
Oh look. Blue Jays are tied for first. Perhaps Baltimore has peaked too soon.

lol I dread Baltimore finish 1st, not because of anything to do with Baltimore, but because Droford will act as though he is Buck Showalter's right hand man.

I'm amazed at how bad both the Jays and O's are vs the West.... the A's and Sox are both SO SHIT, and the amount of games dropped to them just blows my mind. These are both teams 15 games over .500 and they have struggles against 2 very mediocre teams. O's are 10-17 vs the West I can only assume the Jays are as bad if not worse.

poopfromweiner dude
08-09-2016, 01:25 PM
some 538 article I searched for:

FanGraphs has a way of converting a player’s WAR into his monetary value on the open (free agent) market. The site calculates how much teams spend per projected WAR in a given season1 and then applies that “market price” to each player’s output at the end of the season. That gives us a sense of how much it would cost to buy the WAR he created. FanGraphs isn’t the only one to perform this calculation — so we’re dealing with a bit of estimation here — but if you take a consensus average, teams were willing to pay about $7.7 million for every additional WAR this season.


Not really trying to relaunch the "WAR debate" but "in theory" to play up to his contract, David Price should only need to average a WAR of just above 4.0 over the next 7 years to be "worth" his contract. A feat he accomplished in 6 of his 7 previous full seasons and a mark he'll likely still hit this season

correct?

baseball is fun

Damian Rey 2.0
08-09-2016, 01:36 PM
You are correct. The value of a win is typically in the $5-$7 range. A-Rod was worth about 25 WAR in his time in Texas. By today's standards he as more than worth the money. Brian Kenny from mlb network did a nice breakdown yesterday that said as much.

Evil Vito
08-09-2016, 02:19 PM
Bryce Harper is going to only be 25 when he's a free agent, heading into his age 26 season. If the Yankees are going to hand out one more batshit crazy contract, he's easily the guy to do it for.

Granted he's having a massive regression from where he was last year but I think teams have just wisened up to pitching around him and it's gotten into his head. He'll make the adjustments and he'll still hit like 50 HR a year with that short porch.

Ruien
08-09-2016, 02:56 PM
lol I dread Baltimore finish 1st, not because of anything to do with Baltimore, but because Droford will act as though he is Buck Showalter's right hand man.

I'm amazed at how bad both the Jays and O's are vs the West.... the A's and Sox are both SO SHIT, and the amount of games dropped to them just blows my mind. These are both teams 15 games over .500 and they have struggles against 2 very mediocre teams. O's are 10-17 vs the West I can only assume the Jays are as bad if not worse.

To be fair, if you go against Sale and Q back to back against the WSox you will probably lose 1 or 2 games.

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-09-2016, 02:58 PM
Yeah that's true. Plus the amount of great teams who will drop 2 of 3 or even get swept to crap teams is staggering. Just the nature of a 162 game season.

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-09-2016, 03:02 PM
I think it also has to do with the lower tier teams really loving to play spoiler and take a dump on the top tier teams.

Damian Rey 2.0
08-09-2016, 03:29 PM
I don't by buy into that teams looking to play spoiler nonsense. Bad teams all of a sudden play above their heads to the detriment of their division rival, but wait until they're out of the race and their own wins and losses don't matter? Sounds silly.

Emperor Smeat
08-09-2016, 04:24 PM
Prince Fielder expected to announce his retirement tomorrow according to Fox Sports. Teased to be related to his recent neck surgery and the results doctors gave after it was done.

weather vane
08-09-2016, 04:24 PM
Dale why do you care how much teams spend or give to players?

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-09-2016, 04:25 PM
I don't by buy into that teams looking to play spoiler nonsense. Bad teams all of a sudden play above their heads to the detriment of their division rival, but wait until they're out of the race and their own wins and losses don't matter? Sounds silly.

I think it has to do with lack of pressure. When guys all of a sudden can relax and have nothing to play for, they'll play some better baseball. When the games matter, they are complete and utter shit.

You see it in all sports.

Droford
08-09-2016, 07:15 PM
Going to the Os game in Oakland tonight..very weird being 2700 miles from home

Droford
08-09-2016, 07:16 PM
I'm sitting front row 3rd base side have an Os flag if they don't take it away

Evil Vito
08-09-2016, 07:19 PM
That's really sad news about Fielder. The guy is only 32 years old and was great a year ago.

Damian Rey 2.0
08-09-2016, 07:20 PM
He's technically not retiring. Rather, he's announcing he's not physically able to play. If he retired he'd forfeit his remaining salary.

Evil Vito
08-09-2016, 07:24 PM
Still doesn't change the fact that he can no longer do what he loves to do at a relatively young age.

Droford
08-09-2016, 09:14 PM
Calling the Colosseum a dump insults dumps

Emperor Smeat
08-09-2016, 10:36 PM
:y: Red Sox beat the Yanks tonight.

Sox probably need a sweep in order for this series to be successful considering they are barely hanging on to a wild card spot and Yankees cleaning house on their roster.

Damian Rey 2.0
08-09-2016, 11:06 PM
It's early August. As long as the continue to win series after series they'll be fine.

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-09-2016, 11:13 PM
It's early August. As long as the continue to win series after series they'll be fine.

Emperor Smeat
08-09-2016, 11:25 PM
It's early August. As long as the continue to win series after series they'll be fine.

For them, that's actually been a big problem in recent years once the season gets to August and September since the 2011 collapse. Usually somewhere in August where things really go downhill.

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-09-2016, 11:44 PM
Dale why do you care how much teams spend or give to players?

it creates an uneven playing field

Damian Rey 2.0
08-09-2016, 11:47 PM
Not really. The Royals made it to back to back world series titles with a mid level payroll. The Cardinals continue to succeed despite not signing top free agents. The Pirates have had continued success as well.

Nicky Fives
08-10-2016, 02:13 AM
I think it has to do with lack of pressure. When guys all of a sudden can relax and have nothing to play for, they'll play some better baseball. When the games matter, they are complete and utter shit.

You see it in all sports.

And they want to pad their stats to help them make more $$ in the off-season. Don;t have to listen to the coaching staff telling them what to do and potentially inhibiting their production, they can just go out there and look for hits/RBI to turn that potential 1-year, $4M deal in the off-season into a 2-year, $10M deal or better.....

Droford
08-10-2016, 03:12 AM
Orioles sort of pissed me off tonight couldn't do anything vs some scrub Zach Neal..ugh

At least Toronto lost bad..but they're letting Boston back in now

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-10-2016, 10:51 AM
lol toronto losing close or losing bad doesn't make a difference in the standings.

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-10-2016, 11:07 AM
Not really. The Royals made it to back to back world series titles with a mid level payroll. The Cardinals continue to succeed despite not signing top free agents. The Pirates have had continued success as well.

Which is amazing and I believe what the game should be focused on.

which is why I believe the league should be capped, and those 2 teams should be the model of how teams should be built.

Ruien
08-10-2016, 11:11 AM
No way the players ever agree to a cap.

Evil Vito
08-10-2016, 02:25 PM
Cecil Fielder career home runs: 319
Prince Fielder career home runs: 319

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-10-2016, 10:09 PM
16-3 J Happ.

Evil Vito
08-10-2016, 11:48 PM
Mets now only one game over .500. Haven't won back to back games in over a month.

Gutless. Absolutely gutless.

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-11-2016, 12:21 AM
brutal Vito. That shit just sucks.

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-11-2016, 12:44 AM
Prince Fielder's interview makes me so sad :(

Evil Vito
08-11-2016, 07:34 AM
brutal Vito. That shit just sucks.

Collins has to go. I really don't see how they can justify keeping him.

They are probably too cheap to pay two managers at once, and Sandy will cite last year's WS appearance and all of the injuries as reason why Collins shouldn't be blamed. But doing that implies that Collins had anything at all to do with last year. They won in spite of him, not because of him.

Plus firing the manager is usually the first sign that a GM's vision is beginning to crumble apart.

Evil Vito
08-11-2016, 01:56 PM
Not even halfway through the third game of a three game series and the Diamondbacks have stolen 13 bases on the Mets this series.

That is fucking mortifying.

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-12-2016, 09:59 AM
Baltimore losing 3/4 to Oakland in close games seems like something the Jays would do

RP
08-12-2016, 10:14 AM
Giarardi is being a punk bitch. Pretty lame to promise something in the press and then reneg on it. Yankees arent jumping 4 teams. Let the guy play 3rd. What a punk ass bitch Giarardi is.

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-12-2016, 10:46 AM
By the sounds of it, it's political. I will say, they did just gain some ground on their immediate wildcard rival.

Droford
08-12-2016, 10:50 AM
Baltimore losing 3/4 to Oakland in close games seems like something the Jays would do

They were all low scoring 1 run games..at least yesterday the bats woke up and hopefully that carries over to the Giants series

poopfromweiner dude
08-12-2016, 11:01 AM
GAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY-ROOOOOOOOOODDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

Evil Vito
08-12-2016, 11:15 AM
People can hate A-Rod all they want, but he has said all the right things the last couple years and the Yankees are completely embarrassing him and essentially forcing him into retirement.

"A-Rod can't play third because we're trying to win games." Sure made sense then that they routinely trotted Jeter and his terrible defense out there every night in 2014 when they weren't sellers and closer to a playoff spot than they are this year.

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-12-2016, 11:41 AM
Hard to feel bad for A-Rod since he's a piece of shit.

weather vane
08-12-2016, 11:43 AM
I do not hate A Rod anymore.

Emperor Smeat
08-12-2016, 12:10 PM
Should at least let him play 3B for his final game. Maybe its just his tone but ever since they went on a selling spree, Girardi has sounded at times like he feels he's getting the axe after the season.

Yankees had a few chances to wash their hands from A-Rod the past few years but did nothing and even changed their tone when he had to bail them out a few times. The rumored Miami trade a few years ago was their best chance mostly because they actually found someone dumb enough to take his contract at the time.

ClockShot
08-12-2016, 12:54 PM
He's done.

The Yankees Youth Movement has finally arrived. That's the only thing that matters.

If he plays tonight, fine. If not, whatever.

RP
08-12-2016, 01:41 PM
People can hate A-Rod all they want, but he has said all the right things the last couple years and the Yankees are completely embarrassing him and essentially forcing him into retirement.

"A-Rod can't play third because we're trying to win games." Sure made sense then that they routinely trotted Jeter and his terrible defense out there every night in 2014 when they weren't sellers and closer to a playoff spot than they are this year.

Yep. Going out of there way to do so. Almost is if they think Baseball fans have nominated them to do it. My problem isnt the hatred for A-Rod. It's the fact that Gerado said A-Rod could dictate his play time the next 4 games however he wants and then cowardly backed off of it. The guy looks like a bigger fool than A-Rod now.

RP
08-12-2016, 01:45 PM
Should at least let him play 3B for his final game. Maybe its just his tone but ever since they went on a selling spree, Girardi has sounded at times like he feels he's getting the axe after the season.

Yankees had a few chances to wash their hands from A-Rod the past few years but did nothing and even changed their tone when he had to bail them out a few times. The rumored Miami trade a few years ago was their best chance mostly because they actually found someone dumb enough to take his contract at the time.

Oh i think he is getting the axe after this season. The guy looks like a punk. You know who else looks like a little bitch with all the quotes he's been dropping the past few years... Bryan Cashman. Would not be shocked if he got the boot either.

Innovator
08-12-2016, 03:48 PM
People can hate A-Rod all they want, but he has said all the right things the last couple years and the Yankees are completely embarrassing him and essentially forcing him into retirement.

"A-Rod can't play third because we're trying to win games." Sure made sense then that they routinely trotted Jeter and his terrible defense out there every night in 2014 when they weren't sellers and closer to a playoff spot than they are this year.

Jeter was playing shallow left, not short

McLegend
08-12-2016, 04:28 PM
I love A-Rod, but it's really hard to feel bad for the guy.

I would want him to go to if I were The Yankees.

Damian Rey 2.0
08-12-2016, 08:09 PM
I'm sorry Vito

Innovator
08-12-2016, 08:22 PM
A-Rod with an RBI double

Droford
08-12-2016, 08:58 PM
http://i.imgur.com/gXcJLQE.jpg
Beautiful day for a ballgame

Damian Rey 2.0
08-12-2016, 10:44 PM
Att park was voted top 3 parks by USA today I believe

Evil Vito
08-12-2016, 11:08 PM
I'm openly rooting against the Mets at this point. If them continuing to look like dogshit the rest of the way is the only way to get rid of Collins then it's for the greater good.

Droford
08-13-2016, 12:48 AM
Att park was voted top 3 parks by USA today I believe

I like it..but Camden Yards did it first and better..plus it's not 50 and cold in August in baltimore

Nicky Fives
08-13-2016, 01:51 AM
I like Kaufman in KC better than SF, but its #2 in my eyes....

Damian Rey 2.0
08-13-2016, 03:03 PM
Russell FUCKING Martin! Tuned into mlb network to see Martin blast a 3 run dinger into centerfield to take a 4-2 lead.

Emperor Smeat
08-13-2016, 06:36 PM
Nationals released Jon Papaelbon after he requested for it to be done.

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-13-2016, 08:04 PM
Russell FUCKING Martin! Tuned into mlb network to see Martin blast a 3 run dinger into centerfield to take a 4-2 lead.

I love Martin. Numbers aren't ALWAYS there (heaven forbid, the guy is a catcher) but he is a fucking boss. Threw out Altuve twice in two days.

Damian Rey 2.0
08-13-2016, 08:14 PM
Got to see Aaron Sanchez toss a bit as well. Like the stuff but I've always read he had poor lower half mechanics and I saw it today. Doesn't take a long stride to the plate despite being as tall as he is. But in turn, it makes this year that much more impressive and if they ever do lengthen out his stride he's only going to get that much better.

If he keeps up I think he's a very strong Cy Young candidate.

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-13-2016, 09:38 PM
The advantage he has is he put on a bunch of weight in the off season (good weight because he is really lean) so that helps at least with something. I'm know nothing of mechanics other than the basic need to drive as much as you can from your lower half to avoid putting strain on your shoulder, but I wouldn't be able to tell if Sanch has a small stride.

Did you get to see Grilli's inning? Since he's come to the Jays his ERA is below 2. It's fucking ridiculous. Plus, Gary Sheffield is his agent.

Overall while I think the Jays will make the playoffs, I'm not completely sold on them... but they have finally started consistently winning close games which since their big run last year, has been the main knock against them. So it's a start.

Also, I fucking love Jose Altuve. Can he please hit .400?

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-13-2016, 09:45 PM
Oh shit. Pads called up Brandon Morrow. I had so much hope for that guy :(

ClockShot
08-13-2016, 09:51 PM
Day 1 of the post Alex Rodriguez era. The Judge & Stone Cold Tyler Austin hit back to back home runs in their first MLB plate appearances.

Loving this right now.

ClockShot
08-13-2016, 09:52 PM
Nationals released Jon Papaelbon after he requested for it to be done.

Somewhere Drew Storen is laughing.

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-13-2016, 10:03 PM
Somewhere Drew Storen is laughing.

And walking a batter then giving up a homerun.

Evil Vito
08-14-2016, 10:33 AM
Jacob deGrom has 9 no-decisions this season, and he has put up a 1.92 ERA in those games.

Reason 101 why the Wins stat is utter bollocks.

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-14-2016, 12:46 PM
not be all and end all that's for sure. But a 20 win season is a nice complement to some good stats.

Evil Vito
08-14-2016, 03:37 PM
Wins are a joke. It wasn't that long ago that writers lived and died by the wins stat. The 2005 AL Cy Young race was the most notorious example I can think of.

Colon 2005: 21-8, 3.48 ERA, 222.2 innings, 157 K, 1.16 WHIP
Santana 2005: 16-7, 2.87 ERA, 231.2 innings, 238 K, 0.97 WHIP

I love Bart but jesus, no way he should have won that award let alone in a blowout like he did. There is no objective metric that Colon was more deserving. He just happened to be on a far better team that actually gave him a ton of run support. Johan allowed less than a baserunner per inning for christ's sake.

Evil Vito
08-14-2016, 03:39 PM
Meanwhile there probably hasn't been a manager in recent history happier to see his own starter lose a no-hitter than Terry Collins just now.

Matz threw 120 pitches his last start despite dealing with bone spurs and it's a brutally hot day. Finally gave up a hit with 1 out in the 8th. Collins could not have booked it out of the dugout fast enough to remove him after 105 pitches.

Damian Rey 2.0
08-14-2016, 03:55 PM
Matz hasn't pitched with one full season of health has he? I don't blame him for yanking an injury prone starter.

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-14-2016, 04:04 PM
Wins are a joke. It wasn't that long ago that writers lived and died by the wins stat. The 2005 AL Cy Young race was the most notorious example I can think of.

Colon 2005: 21-8, 3.48 ERA, 222.2 innings, 157 K, 1.16 WHIP
Santana 2005: 16-7, 2.87 ERA, 231.2 innings, 238 K, 0.97 WHIP

I love Bart but jesus, no way he should have won that award let alone in a blowout like he did. There is no objective metric that Colon was more deserving. He just happened to be on a far better team that actually gave him a ton of run support. Johan allowed less than a baserunner per inning for christ's sake.

I don't see much a difference between 16-7 and 21-8, that should not decide fuckall, I will agree with you. But they do mean something.

Evil Vito
08-14-2016, 05:17 PM
Matz hasn't pitched with one full season of health has he? I don't blame him for yanking an injury prone starter.

This is his first full season in the majors. Terry was mum on whether or not he'd have let Matz finish out the game had he kept the no-no going through 8.

I'm inclined to say no, which is funny because he used Gabriel Ynoa to finish the game. Ynoa hasn't pitch in relief in four years and so Collins throws him out there back to back days, which is mind-numbing levels of stupidity if your goal is to try to protect guys' arms.

Emperor Smeat
08-14-2016, 05:24 PM
Marlins considering talks with A-Rod to see if he would play for them after losing Giancarlo Stanton for the rest of the season.

Damian Rey 2.0
08-14-2016, 07:03 PM
You're killing me Dale.

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-14-2016, 07:04 PM
hahaha

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-14-2016, 07:05 PM
droford is abou to have an orgasm

Droford
08-14-2016, 07:23 PM
I actually got to watch the game too

7 run rally 7th inning on to win 8-7

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-14-2016, 08:24 PM
Against a good team too.

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-14-2016, 08:27 PM
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Evil Vito
08-15-2016, 09:17 AM
I can't lie, I'd laugh my balls off if the Marlins won a ring with Ichiro and A-Rod.

Then I'd cry realizing that they had won more World Series titles in 24 seasons of existence than the Mets have in 55.

Innovator
08-15-2016, 03:27 PM
I can't wait for Aaron Judge's HOF speech.

Evil Vito
08-15-2016, 04:41 PM
A-Rod's rep confirms that he will not play again in 2016.

He hasn't ruled out keeping in shape and playing in 2017. Since the Yankees are on the hook for his salary any team that signs him would just have to pay league minimum.

Maybe a few AL teams float offers bring him aboard to try to market the chase for 700 home runs. At the same time though, any team that does that is basically advertising that they don't really view themselves as contenders. Tough to imagine A-Rod bothering at this point.

ClockShot
08-15-2016, 05:34 PM
I can't wait for Aaron Judge's HOF speech.

Be dressed in robes, drop the gavel, and call for order.

Totally.

Droford
08-15-2016, 08:38 PM
I can't wait for Aaron Judge's HOF speech.

The Yankees should trade for the Law guy in SF s bullpen..

The Judge and the Law

RP
08-16-2016, 10:19 PM
Baez just obliterated a baseball.

RP
08-16-2016, 10:20 PM
I'm not even fucking around, Baez might be the most talented Cub.

RP
08-16-2016, 10:22 PM
It only measured 408, but i swear when you see the replay it looks like its 470

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-16-2016, 10:43 PM
centre field, pulled or opposite field?

RP
08-16-2016, 11:32 PM
centre field, pulled or opposite field?

between pulled and center.

RP
08-16-2016, 11:33 PM
Oh ya this happened tonight to. Probably the National League MVP for sure.

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RP
08-16-2016, 11:34 PM
Food for thought. Theo has fleeced two teams for a Cy young winner and a very very potential MVP now. Traded Cashner for Rizzo. And traded ( i dont know ) for Arrieta.

Damian Rey 2.0
08-17-2016, 12:13 AM
Scott Feldman

RP
08-17-2016, 12:16 AM
Scott Feldman

oh my

weather vane
08-17-2016, 12:18 AM
Mookie Betts is outrageous.

Droford
08-17-2016, 12:43 AM
Only vs the Orioles though

Damian Rey 2.0
08-17-2016, 12:44 AM
No he's a stud pretty much all the time

Droford
08-17-2016, 01:21 AM
11 games vs os 7 hr 20 h 17 rbi
Other 104 games 20 hr 72 rbi 137 h

He's put up about 25% of his homers and rbi vs the Orioles in about 10% of the games

Damian Rey 2.0
08-17-2016, 02:09 AM
And yet he still has great numbers when he's not playing them. Your team isn't special Droford. He's a stud regardless of opponent.

Damian Rey 2.0
08-17-2016, 02:10 AM
And of course he has higher counting numbers against Baltimore. They're in the same division.

Damian Rey 2.0
08-17-2016, 02:12 AM
And the Orioles have a shit bag rotation. No surprise he rips them a new ass hole.

RP
08-17-2016, 03:32 AM
There is no way in hell Palpebon comes to the Cubs. The Cubs dont want his cancer in the locker room. It will not happen. Go back to Boston you bum!

ClockShot
08-17-2016, 08:21 AM
Yankees had the Blue Jays on the ropes last night.

But, the bullpen blew up in the 8th inning.

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-17-2016, 08:41 AM
Shrieve is brutal. I know it was Swarzak and Warren who fell apart first, but I've not seen Shrieve do anything impressive.

I don't know what's worse, being the team to lose 1-0 and blow 1st and 3rd with 1 out in the ninth or being the team to blow a 6-0 lead after the fifth inning following a rain delay.

I know blowing the game is quite shit, but one is blowing a good pitching/defensive performance the other is wasting a great bit of hitting.

Gary Sanchez seems like he could be pretty good. Fuck Brian Mccann that fat sac of shit.

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-17-2016, 08:41 AM
Oh ya this happened tonight to. Probably the National League MVP for sure.

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That was fucking amazing.

poopfromweiner dude
08-17-2016, 11:30 AM
Dale I bet you $100 my team beats your shitty ass favorite team today

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-17-2016, 11:47 AM
Either way it goes you will probably take it far more personally than me, while some how trying to make it seem like you don't. I'll just be upset for the rest of the night.

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-17-2016, 11:48 AM
And at least my shitty ass favourite team (who is actually kind of playing like shit) didn't give up a 6 run lead with a clear chance to sweep the series ;)

PS I love Aaron Judge. Hope that guy turns into a masher.

ClockShot
08-17-2016, 11:51 AM
Shrieve is brutal. I know it was Swarzak and Warren who fell apart first, but I've not seen Shrieve do anything impressive.

I don't know what's worse, being the team to lose 1-0 and blow 1st and 3rd with 1 out in the ninth or being the team to blow a 6-0 lead after the fifth inning following a rain delay.

I know blowing the game is quite shit, but one is blowing a good pitching/defensive performance the other is wasting a great bit of hitting.

Gary Sanchez seems like he could be pretty good. Fuck Brian Mccann that fat sac of shit.


Shreve got punished and sent down after the game. :)


As for McCann, think he's getting sent back to Atlanta anytime. Either during this season or at the post season.

Damian Rey 2.0
08-17-2016, 02:53 PM
Melvin Upton Jr hits his first homer for Canada. A 3 run dinger off Sabathtub.

RP
08-17-2016, 09:31 PM
I'm not trying to brag, but the Cubs pitching will destroy everyone in the playoffs. I cant see anyone beating them. I'm not even counting there amazing defense and great bats. The pitching alone is incredible.

RP
08-17-2016, 09:33 PM
4 of the Cubs starters are in the top 20 in ERA in all of baseball. 5 are in the top 20 in all of the NL.

Havent even got to the bullpen, defense, bats, manager.

wow

RP
08-17-2016, 09:35 PM
And of all the starters the Cubs have, Kyle fucking Hendricks is a legit C.Y Young contender.

RP
08-17-2016, 09:35 PM
If Kyle Hendricks can pitch a complete game shutout his next game, I think he's the frontrunner.

Damian Rey 2.0
08-17-2016, 09:40 PM
You're not bragging. The Cubs are the best team in baseball. They're just fucking stacked. My favorites to win it all.

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-17-2016, 09:45 PM
Plus they have Joe Cool as their manager.

SlickyTrickyDamon
08-17-2016, 10:45 PM
Sox win the 2-game series against the Os.

RP
08-17-2016, 10:49 PM
Its sureal. As a life long Cubs fan, i cant believe i'm watching a Cub team this good. It's incredible. Watching them night in and night out i'm like..." Wow! ". I dont even know how to describe it and the fucking crazy thing is, they're doing it without Schwaber. Like this team actually could be so much better right now if Kyle Scwarber doesnt tear is knee up. It's incredible. I think we're going to win the World Series. I'm literally making plans to be in Wrigleyville when it happens. I cant afford Series tickets, but i want to be there.

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-17-2016, 10:51 PM
deep breaths RP.

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-17-2016, 10:53 PM
Arietta is on my top 10 Sports Hunk All Star team.

RP
08-17-2016, 11:00 PM
Arietta is on my top 10 Sports Hunk All Star team.

I'm not trying to be as gay about it as you are, but i agree.