MLB Thread

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Future is bright though. Crawford in the minors, Nola and Velasquez already up, high pick this year. Philly is gonna be fine long-term.

[Evil Vito]

I expect the Phillies to trail off eventually but yeah, their future is bright. Ditto for Atlanta. Oh and the Marlins are pretty decent too and should get better next year.

The NL East is going to be a fucking loaded division soon, which is why I wanted the Mets to go balls out in this next year or two when they have their whole stable of cost-controlled pitching before some of the rebuilding teams are back to contention.

[Evil Vito]

Speaking of the Mets, their lineup continues to be a fucking joke and they're 100% reliant on home runs in a big ballpark. That is the only way they know how to score. It's a fucking joke that none of these guys know how to manufacture runs.

[ClockShot]

Yankees avoid the sweep.

In other news, Hal Steinbrenner blames the players for their woes. Not Joe Girardi.

Regardless, he's gone along with Cashman if things don't turn around.

[Nicky Fives]

99% of the time, its the players fault anyways and the coach just gets the brunt of it (see Atlanta's Gonzalez)....not much sense firing a manager for a sub-par record when they dump big money contracts and only sign AAA plugs....

[Evil Vito]

And Matt Harvey departs with 2 outs in the 3rd inning, having given up 9 runs.

Seriously, send this fucking bum to AAA until he sorts his shit out, or make up an injury to DL him or something. They gain absolutely nothing by running him out there every 5 days looking like this.

[Evil Vito]

Travis Wood got the super rare extra innings bullpen Superwin the other night as the Cubs continue to pile up Superwins like they're going out of style.

OFFICIAL SUPERWIN LIST
4/3: Francisco Liriano
4/6: Kenta Maeda
4/14: Jason Hammel
4/18: John Lackey
4/19: Jason Hammel (2)
4/22: Jeff Samardzija
5/1: Clayton Kershaw
5/3: Jake Arrieta
5/11: Noah Syndergaard
5/15: Jose Fernandez
5/15: Dan Straily
5/18: Travis Wood

[Ruien]

Chis Sale wins again. WOOOOO. 9-0 baby.

[Frank Drebin]

Down goes Heyward

[Frank Drebin]

looks like a broken arm or dislocated/seperated shoulder

[Droford]

Os powered by Rickard leadoff homer hit 4 homers to beat the Angels 9-4. 25-15 through 40 translates out to 100 wins

[Emperor Smeat]

MLB changing the official strike zone as early as next season due to how umps have been calling the lower part of the zone.

The committee agreed on a motion to effectively raise the lower part of the strike zone to the top of the hitter's knees, sources said. The current rules stipulate that the zone begins at "the hollow beneath the kneecap," but the change is a reaction to a trend by umpires to call strikes on an increasing number of pitches below the knees.

Also a new rule on intentional walks could happen as early as next season and one meant to save pitches and cut back game time a little bit.

The change in the intentional-walk rule would end the traditional practice of requiring the pitcher to lob four balls outside the strike zone. Instead, a team could signify it wants to issue an intentional walk, and the hitter would be immediately sent to first base, sources said.

[ClockShot]

Pinged on my phone just now that the Yankees dugout is flooded with backed up septic water/sewage over at O.co Stadium in Oakland.

Been saying it for awhile, A's and Raiders need to get out of there.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Just trying to make em feel at home.

[Evil Vito]

The Cubs have collected so many Superwins this year they were bound to be victimized by one soon. Matt Cain breaks an 0-for-48 skid at the plate and drives in 2 runs in a Superwin against the Cubs, bringing his record to 1-5 on the year.

OFFICIAL SUPERWIN LIST
4/3: Francisco Liriano
4/6: Kenta Maeda
4/14: Jason Hammel
4/18: John Lackey
4/19: Jason Hammel (2)
4/22: Jeff Samardzija
5/1: Clayton Kershaw
5/3: Jake Arrieta
5/11: Noah Syndergaard
5/15: Jose Fernandez
5/15: Dan Straily
5/18: Travis Wood
5/21: Matt Cain

[Droford]

Matt Wieters just hit a 3 run homer with 2 outs in the 9th down 1-0..on his birthday..and they won

[Nicky Fives]

Matt Wieters just hit a 3 run homer with 2 outs in the 9th down 1-0..on his birthday..and they won

And the umpires screwed The Halo's out of any chance of coming back in the 9th with a pair of terrible calls, especially on Yunel Escobar, resulting in him getting tossed....Wieters' glove touched the dirt when he caught the ball, that's how low it was....

[Droford]

Ump was shotty the whole game only way to explain how Shoemaker got 12 ks in 7.1 innings

[Frank Drebin]

How did Hawk Harrelson get ahold of your two accounts?

[Frank Drebin]

Also, for those who haven't heard it, see if you can find the clip of Hawk being so concerned for Todd Frazier after he hit his mouth diving into the seats for a foul ball that he literally left the broadcast booth to go check on him. Like it was life threatening. Like he didn't have a job to do at the time. When are they going to just tell him to stay home?

[DaveWadding]

you mean: when are they going to tell him "HE GONE!"?

[Droford]

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I get Gary Thorne for Os games about 2/3 of the time

[Droford]

Him doing the empty stadium game in a golf announcers voice was hilarious though

[Ruien]

Also, for those who haven't heard it, see if you can find the clip of Hawk being so concerned for Todd Frazier after he hit his mouth diving into the seats for a foul ball that he literally left the broadcast booth to go check on him. Like it was life threatening. Like he didn't have a job to do at the time. When are they going to just tell him to stay home?

I have found it odd the amount of Cubs fans have started to dig in on Hawk over the past couple years. He's just a damn announcer who the hell cares.

[Frank Drebin]

If I want to watch a Sox game, I want good play by play and analysis of the game. I don't want to hear a soundboard of catchphrases, silence, an aimless story about "how I played with Yaz" and blaming the umpire's strike zone everytime the Sox are down by 1.

[Frank Drebin]

A play by play TV commentator left the booth in the middle of the inning to do....what?? See an injured player? What a pro.

[Evil Vito]

Hawk Harrelson is terrible and anybody who likes him should feel terrible.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Drebin is spitting so much truth.

[Emperor Smeat]

Also, for those who haven't heard it, see if you can find the clip of Hawk being so concerned for Todd Frazier after he hit his mouth diving into the seats for a foul ball that he literally left the broadcast booth to go check on him. Like it was life threatening. Like he didn't have a job to do at the time. When are they going to just tell him to stay home?

How long was he out for since maybe the real reason was him being hungry and snuck off to eat a hot dog or two on the way to and from the booth. Checking up on the injured player was just his alibi so nobody would ever find out.

[Ruien]

WOOOO someone besides Sale won.

[Frank Drebin]

This game sums up how to beat the Cubs if it wasn't already evident in the NLCS last year and as recently as against the Brewers last week.

Take away their hitting advantage is easy. They like to work the count. The starter piles up pitches and before you know it, you're into middle relief in the 6th inning at the beginning of a series. That may work in the regular season, but not in the playoffs. If you have a starter who is confident in his stuff, and he pounds the strike zone, the Cubs are in trouble.

Look at this game so far tonight. Mad Bum throws 28 pitches in the 1st inning and loads the bases with 2 outs. Cubs don't come through, but that won't always be the case. You have to give yourself the opportunity before you can take it. The rest of the way? 6.2+ only 87 pitches. 0 runs and no real opportunities. Yes, its Madison Bumgarner. But who do you think they face in the playoffs? You can do that during a 162 game season when you face a teams 4th, 5th, 6th and 7th best starters, but doing that against a series of front line starters.....guys getting Cy Young votes? Good luck.

Cubs are going to have the best record in Baseball, but the Giants and Mets would beat them in October with the way things stand now.

The Cubs problem? I'm trying to wrap my head around it because I can't believe this could be true: they have too many good hitters.

[Evil Vito]

It also marks two nights in a row that the Cubs got Superwin'd

OFFICIAL SUPERWIN LIST
4/3: Francisco Liriano
4/6: Kenta Maeda
4/14: Jason Hammel
4/18: John Lackey
4/19: Jason Hammel (2)
4/22: Jeff Samardzija
5/1: Clayton Kershaw
5/3: Jake Arrieta
5/11: Noah Syndergaard
5/15: Jose Fernandez
5/15: Dan Straily
5/18: Travis Wood
5/21: Matt Cain
5/22: Madison Bumgarner

[Evil Vito]

Wait Jerad Eickoff got one today too. Need to give credit where it's due to the Phillies/screech

OFFICIAL SUPERWIN LIST
4/3: Francisco Liriano
4/6: Kenta Maeda
4/14: Jason Hammel
4/18: John Lackey
4/19: Jason Hammel (2)
4/22: Jeff Samardzija
5/1: Clayton Kershaw
5/3: Jake Arrieta
5/11: Noah Syndergaard
5/15: Jose Fernandez
5/15: Dan Straily
5/18: Travis Wood
5/21: Matt Cain
5/22: Madison Bumgarner
5/22: Jerad Eickoff

[ClockShot]

VITO! Got tickets to see the 51's play tonight. Any future Mets I should keep an eye on?

[Evil Vito]

Dilson Herrera who is their 2B of the future and saw some time in Queens the last two seasons.

Brandon Nimmo who is a lefty hitting outfielder. I'm actually not yet convinced he'll be an everyday option in the majors but he's still young/promising.

Also TJ Rivera/Ty Kelly are two journeyman minor leaguers who are tearing the cover off the ball this season attempting to force a call up to the Mets bench. I heard Kelly may actually be getting called up as early as today depending on if Duda lands on the DL.

[ClockShot]

Roger that.

[Lock Jaw]

A play by play TV commentator left the booth in the middle of the inning to do....what?? See an injured player? What a pro.

In our local baseball league that we cover, one of our commentators is the owner of the team and we can't get rid of him even though he is terrible. He will be drinking beer throughout the thing and you will occasionally hear the cracking open of a can very clearly through the mics. He will then also randomly leave headset to go buy some food, which he will then loudly eat on air. Then he'll get bored with baseball and start talking about the food he is eating, or start discussing football or something.

Probably the worst commentator I've ever worked with.

[poopfromweiner dude]

6 games against the jays in the next10 days,,,,,any1 want to aviatar bet me the yankees win at least 5 out of 6...

[ClockShot]

NO CHANCE.........

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[Frank Drebin]

@lock Jaw

Do people actually listen to him? If so, they don't make fun of it?

[Evil Vito]

In our local baseball league that we cover, one of our commentators is the owner of the team and we can't get rid of him even though he is terrible. He will be drinking beer throughout the thing and you will occasionally hear the cracking open of a can very clearly through the mics. He will then also randomly leave headset to go buy some food, which he will then loudly eat on air. Then he'll get bored with baseball and start talking about the food he is eating, or start discussing football or something.

Probably the worst commentator I've ever worked with.

Still better than Hawk Harrelson.

[Evil Vito]

Harrelson served as a Chicago White Sox announcer from 1982 to 1985 and briefly left broadcasting during the 1986 season to become the White Sox's General Manager. During his one season as GM, Harrelson fired field manager Tony La Russa (who was soon hired by the Oakland Athletics) and assistant general manager Dave Dombrowski (who became baseball's youngest general manager with the Montreal Expos just two years later).

:lol: @ anybody thinking that giving a GM job to Hawk Harrelson was a good idea

[Lock Jaw]

@lock Jaw

Do people actually listen to him? If so, they don't make fun of it?

We rip him all the time in the truck

[Evil Vito]

Rain delay so SNY is showing a Mets Insider special on Noah Syndergaard

[Evil Vito]

On a related note, I really want to have sex with Noah Syndergaard

[Evil Vito]

Multiple Thorgasms

[ClockShot]

Ynoa o the bump, Vito. Good stat line

[ClockShot]

Jed Lowrie is here.:shifty:

[Evil Vito]

Oh yeah, Ynoa. He's on their 40 man roster. Not sure if he'll get a cup of coffee this year or what but he's got promise as an extra starter.

[Evil Vito]

Nice to grab a win over the Nats tonight. Mets' bats finally showed up. :cool:

[ClockShot]

Pitcher for Nashville tonight got skills.

Jed Lowrie is wearing his A's helmet. Everyone else black team helmets.

[ClockShot]

Nimmo having a good night, Vito.

[ClockShot]

Eovaldi & the bullpen with a nice gem today.

[ClockShot]

Something's going on in San Diego. Trading off some players.

Mets acquire James Loney from San Diego for cash.


White Sox are in talks of possibly getting James Shields. But, nothing set in stone yet.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

FUcking Dickey vs Price today. God dammit. I know Price isn't lighting the world on fire, but he always owns the Jays, and Dickey is Mr. 50/50.

[Ruien]

WOOOO WSox blow another game.

[ClockShot]

1 hit was all the Yankees needed today.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I wonder what the ChiSox would be willing to give up for Shields if the Padres paid down his contract. They have some intriguing options, and Tim Anderson is apparently not considered untouchable.

I also wonder if the deal is done or not depends on if Shields will opt out.

[Frank Drebin]

They'll give you Clayton Richard and you will like it.

The WSOX aren't big on amateur scouting, so alot of their guys wind up not panning out. Chris Sale not withstanding, anyone else on that roster a drafted and home grown talent? While that's not entirely necessary to have a good team, a team like the white Sox needs to be better at that than they are since they aren't in the same league financially as teams like the cubs, red sox, yanks or either LA teams.

Basically, you don't want any of that garbage.

[Ruien]

Isn't Abreau home grown? Danks was fine until this year. But ya, at least we had a miracle season that we can cling onto for another 10 years.

[Frank Drebin]

Abreu is from Cuba.

[Nicky Fives]

He hasn't been anywhere else, so that's close enough lol

[ClockShot]

Yankees send Luis Severino down to AAA to get his shit together.

Probably for the best. Next will be Pineda if he can't figure it out. But the best move at this point is to think about a starting pitcher between now and the trade deadline.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I wonder if Cashman gets desperate and tries to shop the prospects they do have to bolster the rotation.

[Emperor Smeat]

Do they have enough quality prospects to do that?

Even if they fix the rotation, they'd still have serious hitting problems. Last in the division for scoring and 2nd to last in the AL.

[ClockShot]

No prospects. Got rid of like 10 during the offseason with the Castro & Chapman trades. Bags of money would work at this point.


All the Yankees can do at this point is tread water and stay the course until something changes.

[Nicky Fives]

I wouldn't deal Severino unless I was absolutely wowed at what I was getting back....

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Still can't believe how stellar the Jays starting staff has been, trying to wait for the rest of the team to catch up.

Hope they use this new found momentum and go on a nice run in June.

[YOUR Hero]

8 of the last 11 is a good start
bullpen is a big issue.
Long live Estrada!

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Yankees still have Aaron Judge and the injured Greg Bird. Judge can attract some teams looking to move talent and though Bird is hurt I'm sure they can find a taker. They also have a ss prospect who's name escapes me.

[ClockShot]

Blue Jays about to acquire Jason Grilli from the Braves for a minor leaguer. Sean Ratcliffe's name is being tossed around right now.

[ClockShot]

UPDATE:

Trade's been made official.

[Bad News Gertner]

He can't be worse than Storen

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

It's a HAPP'nin again. Nice start lastnight... kind of wish they let him go 7 but he seemed to be coming unravelled a bit in the 6th so I get bring in Joey Ears in the 7th.

Got to Betances which is great. Especially when it's friggin Pillar and Barney getting your big hits.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Marlon Bird likely suspended 162 games due to a failed PEDC test. That could mean he's finished for his career as a team would have to sign him to finish out the back end of the suspension assuming he's on a 1year deal.

[Droford]

Mookie Betts needs to be PED tested

[Droford]

Orioles have 13 runs in the 7 inning..no home runs

[Nicky Fives]

Seems like every Jays game I watch, they lose and when I don't watch, they win....

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

If they can win the socks series away it would seem like they are back in business.... But we shall wait and see

[Droford]

Last night the Orioles scored 13 runs without a home run
Tonight they scored 12 off 7 home runs

LOL

[Droford]

First team to homer in 5 consecutive innings this year
7 hrs ties the most allowed by the Red Sox in a game ever

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Smelly Kelly and Porcello fuck up what could have been good early season lead for the Sox.

[Droford]

Tonight was on your bullpen.

[Droford]

Ouch..the Padres blew a 12-2 lead on the Mariners and its 16-12 Mariners now

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

holy fuck

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Damn it, Droford. Stop stealing my thunder.

In all seriousness I'm glad this is happening to the Padres. Their sorry front office/ownership sat on their hands and tried to bandaid a shit team, selling it as a competitor.

Instead of trading Tyson Ross, Derek Norris, James Shields and possibly Matt Kemp and Andrew Cashner to try and pile up as much young talent as possible, they fooled themselves into thinking they were decent.

Now they're fucking good God almighty awful and there's zero help on the farm. This is what happens when your ownership thinks creating a winner happens overnight.

[Lock Jaw]

Slick series of cuts by director/cameras prior to final pitch... respect...

[Droford]

Mad Bum had a Superwin yesterday just to point out..

Also..the Orioles are back tied with the Red Sox for 1st after beating the Yankees 6-5

[Bad News Gertner]

Jays are really starting to heat up. Dickey was incredible tonight

[Damian Rey 2.0]

ChiSox and Padres agree in principle to trade James Shields.

[ClockShot]

For what, exactly?

[DaveWadding]

Padres want Fernando Tatis, Jr. but no confirmation yet

[DaveWadding]

it's Tatis Jr. and RHP Erik Johnson

[Ruien]

WOOOO we added some decent pitcher to our super shitty team.

[DaveWadding]

Jason Hammel scores a superwin with a 2 run double against the DBacks.

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Source: <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Padres?src=hash">#Padres</a> sending <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WhiteSox?src=hash">#WhiteSox</a> more than $30M in Shields trade.</p>&mdash; Ken Rosenthal (@Ken_Rosenthal) <a href="https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/739203258292412416">June 4, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Padres probably hoping Shields opts out this offseason since they'd only be on the hook for this year's share of the money owed.

[ClockShot]

If the ChiSox can stay in it long enough, I think Shields sticks around. 2 games separate 1-4 in the AL Central right now.

If they fall out, he's gone.

[ClockShot]

Mark Teixeira to the 15-day DL. Here's hoping he avoids the season ending surgery. Can probably ship him off to some sucker team for some prospects.

Season's pretty much a loss anyway right now.

[Droford]

Os were losing 7-0 to the Yankees going into the 7th and 3 homers and zero outs later its 7-6

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I like Tatis but realistically this is just a salary dump with the Padres getting two lottery tickets in return. I'll take it.

[Ruien]

If the ChiSox can stay in it long enough, I think Shields sticks around. 2 games separate 1-4 in the AL Central right now.

If they fall out, he's gone.

Chi Sox will be out of it by next month.

[YOUR Hero]

Never seen a batter strike out, have the catcher drop it, the runner run and be safe at 1st.... and 2 runs come in to score on the play.
too bad he Jays still lost

[Nicky Fives]

They lost it early on when Stroman pitched to Ortiz with first base open and runners on second and third.... terrible call by him or Gibbons for allowing that to happen....absolutely no reason to let Ortiz, the hottest hitter in the league, to hit at that moment

And now Donaldson, who has a bruised thumb, in the lineup as DH but not a 3B.... seems like if he's healthy enough to hit, he's healthy enough to field his position.... I'd understand if he jacked up his ankle/knee/hamstring and getting him off his feet for a day, but its his hand.....

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Stro's hit a bit of a rough patch but I think he's competitive and smart enough to get back on track.

[DaveWadding]

Arrieta time!

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Estrada took a no hit bid into the 8th, gave up a homer to Chris Young. Got through the rest of the inning.

Didn't even have "great" stuff. Love watching this guy work.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Had a feeling in my gut Boston would come back in the ninth... Was dead against Estrada coming on in the 9th because a) Boston was starting to smash the ball (albeit mostly into gloves) and b) it meant Osuna (who always has adventures against the BoSox) would have to come on with a runner on base. He did and was uncomfortable until he got the 3rd out. Good win though and big series.

[Droford]

Arrieta time!

He finally lost..

In better news the Os got 3 In the 8th off Chapman when Girardi put him in for a 5 out save after warming him up prior to a 90 minute rain delay. Not sure why he would do that seemed like a recipe fir disaster

[ClockShot]

Dodgers DFA Carl Crawford, who's due $35 mil between now and next season.

And all this time I thought he was out of the game.

[Nicky Fives]

someone will take a chance on him to increase their OF depth.... not the player that he once was, but worth a gamble to a non-contender to plug in for a few weeks when their main OF is on the DL and they don;t have a decent option in AAA

That is of course if Crawford isn't happy sitting at home letting that money roll in....

[Damian Rey 2.0]

He'll find a place to play. Once he clears waivers and is officially released some team will pick him up for the league minimum and give him a look on the cheap.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

It is crazy looking at Boston's batting line up with seemingly 70% of them hitting over .300 and the rest hitting like .280. Just ludicrous.

[Droford]

And yet they're still tied for 1st with the Orioles

[Damian Rey 2.0]

The Red Sox have a far better run differential. While that doesn't always catch up to teams, it's a good indicator of what to expect.

Even with all their dingers Baltimore is barely outscoring their competition. I'd expect them to explore the pitching market to try and avoid regressing to the mean.

The fact that the Yankees and Rays are mediocre helps their cause but the Jays are heating up and that should make it really interesting.

[Droford]

The Sox wont be able to sustain batting 20 points better than the 2nd best team (.293 vs Pittsburgh's .277) and their Team ERA is actuslly worse than the Orioles (4.38 vs 4.10). So when they go into their hitting slump they're going to fall like a rock..

As for the Jays they're a threat if they start hitting given they have best pitching in AL. But they aren't going anywhere with a team avg of .237

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Yes but they're still outscoring their opponents by a wide margin. That's more indicative of where they're headed than banking on their batting average fluctuating. While there may come down a bit if they maintain their run prevention it's not going to make that big of a difference unless their offense just crumbles.

The same could also be said of Baltimore. They're not going yo be able to keep up if they're barely outscoring their opponents. So unless the offense goes even more crazy or their pitching starts to improve greatly it's more likely they regress to a team that's above 500 but not by many games.

The jays are over 500 hitting 237. They also have a 316 team on base. So even with a low average they're still getting guys in base at a decent clip to give them chances to score.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Nonetheless it's going to fun watching the al east. Can Boston keep bludgeoning their opposition to death? Can Baltimore keep playing above their run differential? Can the Jays make another mid season turn around?

Might be the most exciting division in the league.

[Nicky Fives]

If the Jays can get Martin/Tulo (when he returns from injury) hitting anywhere close to .250 and EE/Bautista/Donaldson hitting at 75% compared to what they did at the end of last season, they will begin to run away with the division, considering how much better their SP's have been this year....

[Droford]

Lorenzo Cain just outright robbed Pedro Alvarez of a 2 run homer..I dare say play of the year candidate...ridiculous catch

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Lorenzo Cain forever. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash">#Royals</a> <a href="https://t.co/ZsdMH5wmDP">https://t.co/ZsdMH5wmDP</a></p>&mdash; Kendall (@kkaut) <a href="https://twitter.com/kkaut/status/740324832810655744">June 7, 2016</a></blockquote>
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[Droford]

Definitely better than Trouts catch in 13 which was considered a top play of 2013

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[Damian Rey 2.0]

Think the Steven Souza catch from earlier this year was better.

[Droford]

Manny got hit by Ventura and he pulled an Odor on him but didn't land the punch as good..

Ugh...

Next batter Trumbo hit HR #20
Next batter Davis smacks a HR

[Droford]

Venturas an asshole (was suspended last year for hitting guys) but Manny didn't need to rush the mound.

[Droford]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="es" dir="ltr">Yordano Ventura's Wikipedia Page: <a href="https://t.co/9qaOVElAJD">pic.twitter.com/9qaOVElAJD</a></p>&mdash; you stupid idiot (@BasedUbaIdo) <a href="https://twitter.com/BasedUbaIdo/status/740351350345748481">June 8, 2016</a></blockquote>
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[Droford]

Lol

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Manny Machado's annihilation of Yordano Ventura narrated by <a href="https://twitter.com/JRsBBQ">@JRsBBQ</a> <a href="https://t.co/1LbcVYexpQ">https://t.co/1LbcVYexpQ</a></p>&mdash; Rob Perez (@World_Wide_Wob) <a href="https://twitter.com/World_Wide_Wob/status/740348597225414657">June 8, 2016</a></blockquote>
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[Damian Rey 2.0]

Let's not pretend that Machado himself has been an asshole. However. Ventura is an asshole too. So I guess They cancel each other out.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Hard to see how clean that punch was. I don't advocate fighting but Ventura is a shit bag so maybe a solid right hand (bah gawd) will wake his ass up.

[Emperor Smeat]

Mets-Braves trade:
Mets get Kelly Johnson while Braves get prospect Akeel Morris in return.

Making things interesting is Mets did a similar trade last year only for Johnson to go right back to the Braves once the season ended.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Don't know why the Mets would want Johnson. Depth I guess. I wonder if they make a bigger move once they figure out if Wright is going to be out longer than they're hoping.

[ClockShot]

I know David Wright is the Mets' darling and all, but they need to seriously start looking their next big star in the upcoming draft. Or, get a big name either through free agency or trade.

I honestly don't think he can go much longer with the back injuries he's been through.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Man, I know the Jays staved off the Sweep today but fuck John Gibbons, shoulda been 2/3 from Detroit but he hung two of his young studs out to dry yesterday. As soon as he sent Sanchez out for the ninth I turned the game off. 2-0 up in the ninth inning means bring in your fucking closer, he had the night off the night before, don't care how overworked he's been. He gets bombed on, you tip your cap and you move on. Total incompetence. Atkins needs to shitcan him and find someone who knows what he's doing at the highest level.

I like Gibby the guy, but Gibby the manager is not elite.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

and lol I've never been a big fan of Machado but he won me over yesterday. Good on him.

[Droford]

Orioles swept the Royals allowing 2 runs in 3 games..and 3 runs in their 4 game win streak. Should be interesting 4 game series in Toronto

[Nicky Fives]

Orioles swept the Royals allowing 2 runs in 3 games..and 3 runs in their 4 game win streak. Should be interesting 4 game series in Toronto

Bachelor party weekend for me, catching Saturday & Sunday games... hoping Machado suspension isn't handed down until next week so I can see him play in person...

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Even if it is he's likely to appeal it, so you should be safe.

[Droford]

Manny only got 4 games.

[Nicky Fives]

Ventura should get double that then....

[Droford]

Ventura should get double that then....

Plus 1..

9 games. A joke really since 9 means he only missed 1 start.

[Droford]

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[Damian Rey 2.0]

I still don't get why starting pitchers aren't suspended for starts instead of games.

[ClockShot]

Chatter going around the rumor mill is that the Royals are trying to move Yordano Ventura. I guess he's become quite the head case lately.

White Sox continue their big name roster moves. DFA Mat Latos, sign Justin Morneau to a $1 mil deal for the season.

And, the Cubs brought back Chris Coghlan from the A's. Sent Arismendy Alcantara to them in exchange.

[Emperor Smeat]

I still don't get why starting pitchers aren't suspended for starts instead of games.

Either MLB is really lazy or managers would just find a loophole like demote those pitchers to the bullpen to serve the suspensions.

Since the usual rotation is 5 pitchers, MLB could multiply whatever the punishment is by 5 to get something more fairer against pitchers. Anything bigger than 2-3 starts would probably be a good deterrent against pitcher antics causing fights.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Gibby is such a twat sometimes. 5-4 game, bring in Aaron minor league Loup to face Chris Davis. Rest of the story tells itself.

[Droford]

Which is that the Orioles win and everyone thinks Battista got diarrhea and had to leave the game

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

We'll see what Mr. Estrada brings to the table tomorrow. If the Jays starters don't pitch well, they're fucked. Once they're figured out in game, they're figured out. Very frustrating team to watch sometimes.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

mind you, baltimore's line up is dangerous

[ClockShot]

White Sox roster overhaul continues. DFA Jimmy Rollins, call up their top SS prospect.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

That should be it for Rollins. He's been a non factor two years in a row. Time to move on.

[Frank Drebin]

With the Justin Mourneu signing, I'm trying to come up with a roster of former all stars the white Sox have signed long past their prime. OMG IT'S THAT GUY.......who won an mvp 12 years ago.

Jimmy Rollins, Jr Griffey, Youk, Roberto Alomar, Darin Erstad, Mike Mcgougal, Orlando Hudson, Omar Visquel, Manny Ramirez. That's just off the top of my head.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Fuck Droford you musta been shocked Brach gave up that homerun to Encarnacion I know I was, dude was dealing. Good game.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

That Givens kid is fucking nasty too.

[YOUR Hero]

All about the slider from Givens

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Wil Myers hits a 3 run bomb into the c.f. shrubbery to give the Padres a 9th inning lead and eventual win.

He's far and away the only Padres player I'd like to see them sign long term.

[Bad News Gertner]

Encarnacion is heating up big time

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Didn't see his 2 jacks today, cuz of work but his homer yesterday to win the game was an absolutely gorgeous piece of hitting.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Droford, in a series (and a season) where the Jays and the O's have had no real nonsense between them, how come some rookie with a an era over 5 is talking about how there's a reason Edwin is hitting .240 and they give him too much credit. Obviously the guy is not a perfect hitter, but if the shoe was on the other foot I feel like someone on Baltimore would be throwing bean balls.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

for the record I don't think he was trying to incite anything or insult Encarnacion but that's an awful lot to say for a rookie with a barely passable ERA, who just got beaten pretty badly.

[Droford]

Chris Davis has homered in 5 straight games

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Chris Davis has homered in 5 straight games

God can these guys hit. Knew when it was 7-1 they were going to make it difficult.

[Droford]

Have 1 decent starter and a bunch of hot garbage 2-5..

Ubaldo is worse than that though.

[Nicky Fives]

Pretty great 2 games from the Jays to be in attendance for over the weekend...

[ClockShot]

Something to think about:

Ichiro Suzuki is 1 hit away from Pete Rose's 4,256 hits. 2 to pass him, obviously do-able.

Now, 1,278 of those hits were from his 9 seasons in Japan. He's got 2,977 in MLB right now.

So, do you make him the Hit King, or should the numbers from Japan not count? Pete Rose already piped in and says no.


I think he's got a good chance of joining the 3,000 hit club this season. But, this is a big record.

[poopfromweiner dude]

He can sit in the record books right next to Sadaharu OH! as far as I'm concerned

But better. Ichiro's the man

[Frank Drebin]

If you include his hits in Japan, include everyone's numbers from the minors. Its also pro ball.

I think the fact that Ichiro spent 9 years in Japan and STILL is going to be able to reach 3000 hits is pretty damned amazing.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I think they should acknowledge that he's collected the most hits in professional baseball. Just because a quarter of them were in Japan doesn't mean they don't count for something.

Pete Rose is still the all time major league hit record. Nobody's touching that. However, Ichiro should be acknowledged for accumulating the hits he has in two different countries' top professional league.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I kinda wish Ichiro was in Seattle for his 3k hit. I don't know if they even need an outfielder but he's still a useful player and I'm a softie for homecomings.

[Droford]

Os beat David Price again. Was actually a bit of a nail biter

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Well he pitched a gem, just got out-duelled it seems.

[Emperor Smeat]

Price has pitched well the past 2-3 games but HRs have been an issue. Last two games he's given up a HR very late in the game and end up being the reason why they lost both times.

[Nicky Fives]

I love Ichiro, but those hits in Japan shouldn't count towards the total, Pete Rose FTW....

[ClockShot]

Rockies DFA Jose Reyes.

[ClockShot]

Ichiro got his 2 hits. One might say he passed Pete Rose for most all time.

[Ruien]

Why is anyone acting like hits in Japan count?

[Nicky Fives]

Why is anyone acting like hits in Japan count?

because they are stupid....

[Emperor Smeat]

Seems like the MLB considers the NPB as a "major" league which would mean his Japan career counts for the official record.

Don't think they usually reference other leagues and records unless they'd count them as MLB worthy for the books.

Rose technically would still own the most MLB-only hits record but Ichrio owns most career hits ever record.

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[Frank Drebin]

Cubs brass has always said their goal was to create a competitive team year after year. They have done that. Lots of long term viability. This is a team built to win 100 games for the next 3-5 years. The problem I see is that it wouldn't be hard to beat this team in the playoffs. If you have pitchers who can pound the strike zone, you take away their advantage of being able to draw walks and get your starter to throw 115 pitches in 5 innings. Max Scherzer and to a lesser extent Stasberg today gave the blueprints for how to beat them. You can argue that after the WC game, every team has a 13% chance with the sample size so small and I think that's what they're doing here. They know the roster is flawed in a 7 game series against top tier pitchers but as long as they keep winning the division the more spins of the wheel they get. I understand, but as I see it now the Cubs get beat by the Mets and Giants with a series against the Nats going 7 games.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Really hope Marco Estrada keeps up his numbers. It should be possible, he's a pitch to contact guy and with his array of pitches and newly found cerebral style, he may be able to keep the batting avg down where it is on balls in contact. Jays are also a great defensive team. Want him to "stick it to the haters"

What does everyone think about Marco thus far this year?

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Well I don't think his babip is going to stay under 200. But he's pitching well. He's punching more guys out but he's also walking more guys.

I think he'll regress a bit but more back to what he was last year, which is still a great for Toronto.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

yeah mid 3's era makes sense, and that's what they need him to be.

[Lock Jaw]

newly found cerebral style

The Cerebral Assassin

The Cerebral Estrada

The Cerebral Estrassin

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

The Cerebral Estrassin

All of the rep

[DaveWadding]

Cubs brass has always said their goal was to create a competitive team year after year. They have done that. Lots of long term viability. This is a team built to win 100 games for the next 3-5 years. The problem I see is that it wouldn't be hard to beat this team in the playoffs. If you have pitchers who can pound the strike zone, you take away their advantage of being able to draw walks and get your starter to throw 115 pitches in 5 innings. Max Scherzer and to a lesser extent Stasberg today gave the blueprints for how to beat them. You can argue that after the WC game, every team has a 13% chance with the sample size so small and I think that's what they're doing here. They know the roster is flawed in a 7 game series against top tier pitchers but as long as they keep winning the division the more spins of the wheel they get. I understand, but as I see it now the Cubs get beat by the Mets and Giants with a series against the Nats going 7 games.

Was going to text you about this, but your opinion has obviously not changed.

[Nicky Fives]

Really hope Marco Estrada keeps up his numbers. It should be possible, he's a pitch to contact guy and with his array of pitches and newly found cerebral style, he may be able to keep the batting avg down where it is on balls in contact. Jays are also a great defensive team. Want him to "stick it to the haters"

What does everyone think about Marco thus far this year?

Stupid Toronto media thought that they overpaid him when he first resigned, but I loved the signing a great 3-4 guy for the rotation, nothing ever flashy but eats innings like crazy and is super dependable, I'd take a rotation of Estrada & Happ's every day of the week.

Dickey is hit or miss, but all the other Jays starters have been excellent, now with the bats starting to heat up, the AL East could be in trouble.... the biggest wrinkle is the inning limit on Sanchez that will force him to the bullpen later on in the season, I assume the original plan was to bring Hutchison back up from AAA-Buffalo, but if they're at the top at the standings I don't see how they couldn't make a trade for another starter for the playoff push, likely with Hutschison as the main piece going back

[ClockShot]

ChiSox release Mat Latos.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Edwin rockin and rollin again tonight lol, when that guy gets locked in, such a beast

[Lock Jaw]

Playing the Finding Dory commercial like two times per commercial break... really tiring of that song....

[Droford]

Os got 2 of 3 from the Red Sox. I hate whoever did the schedule that the Os are playing the jays again this weekend.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

I still don't get why starting pitchers aren't suspended for starts instead of games.

1. There is no such thing as a start until the game stars. Pitch rotation is unofficial.

2. Would take weeks for suspensions to be through.

3. That would makes batters charge the mound more to try to goat them into fighting to get suspended for weks.

[Nicky Fives]

1. There is no such thing as a start until the game stars. Pitch rotation is unofficial.

2. Would take weeks for suspensions to be through.

3. That would makes batters charge the mound more to try to goat them into fighting to get suspended for weks.

1. How many times a season do teams mess with the set rotation? Unless there's an injury or an off-day to give someone a bit more rest, most teams keep the rotation set for awhile

2. And that's a bad thing?

3. If I'm a Superstar that gets plunked in a blowout by a fringe AAA kid, I'd be angry too. Established pitchers hardly ever get suspended, because managers never instruct them to plunk a guy.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Os got 2 of 3 from the Red Sox. I hate whoever did the schedule that the Os are playing the jays again this weekend.

it's a bit much. BUT I think the O's take this series at home.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

1. There is no such thing as a start until the game stars. Pitch rotation is unofficial.

2. Would take weeks for suspensions to be through.

3. That would makes batters charge the mound more to try to goat them into fighting to get suspended for weks.

1. Irrelevant. Everyone knows Ventura is a starter. There's no grey area there. He's a regular member of the starting rotation, with predetermined schedules starts based on where he's placed in the rotation. We all know.

2. Who cares if it takes weeks? How is it fair that a position player miss 5 games he'd have otherwise been in, but a pitcher misses 1 game he'd have otherwise been in? The only time a suspension based on games makes sense is for a reliever, which Ventura is not.

3. Pretty bigv reach there. Why would a batter risk fines and suspensions himself to try and get a starting pitcherv suspended when the likelihood they'd have to face that spot again in the pitcher's team's rotation during the suspension period, let alone the rest of the year, is slim and none?

A pitcher missing one start over 5 games, particular someone like Ventura who isn't very good, is not the same as an mvp/best player on his team Manny Machado missing 5 games. The guy who got plunked is getting the short end of the stick while the guy who started it all, and his team, get off easy.

[Droford]

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[Ruien]

Pitchers are more valuable than a everyday player. It evens out because the everyday player plays everyday and the starting pitcher does not.

[Bad News Gertner]

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Yeah how's that working out for ya

[Droford]

The Jays should have saved runs for the next 2 games

[YOUR Hero]

Saunders for the win

[Bad News Gertner]

The Jays should have saved runs for the next 2 games

Fucking Jays. Always peaking.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Pitchers are more valuable than a everyday player. It evens out because the everyday player plays everyday and the starting pitcher does not.

No they're not. At least not in the blanket statement you are presenting it as. Mike Trout is not less valuable than any pitcher. Except maybe Kershaw, but probably not.

[Ruien]

Any normal pitcher has more of an effect on the game than any starting normal everyday player. So yes they are.

[Ruien]

Maybe you need more of a breakdown. A pitcher is on every defensive play. If a pitcher has a bad game then multiple runs are given up and it's probably going to be a lose. If a everyday player has a bad game then they go 0 for 4 and might post an error. Those stats will not doom the game for the team.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

The Jays should have saved runs for the next 2 games

Jays only really needed one in this series. Obviously the goal is to win the series, but they've put a dent in Baltimore with what they've done so far. Obviously if Baltimore wins this series it's great for them, but moreorless their best outcome is to go 4-3 against the jays in this last stretch of games they've had.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

used obviously a coupe times there, obviously.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Maybe you need more of a breakdown. A pitcher is on every defensive play. If a pitcher has a bad game then multiple runs are given up and it's probably going to be a lose. If a everyday player has a bad game then they go 0 for 4 and might post an error. Those stats will not doom the game for the team.

A pitcher is not in on every defensive play. Once the ball is in play the pitcher is largely uninvolved.

Unproductive players doom the game. If your 2 or 3 hitters are pulling 0fers they're killing your chances to win.

In that one night, yes, the pitcher has a direct impact in the game he's throwing. But pitchers are not "more valuable" than position players. Position players create offense and score runs. The pitcher does not. It's a working relationship. Some pitchers are more valuable than everyday players and vice versa.

To try and blanket statement it is silly. Are you saying Mike Trout is not the Angels most valuable player? Their most important player?

[Ruien]

I forgot you are unable to read. On the day pitcher A is pitching and Everyday Player B is playing, player A has more of am effect/is more valuable than player B. And player B is only on defensive plays that involve him and most are routine.

You just said if the number 2 AND 3 hitters are pulling 0ferz then the chances of winning is slim. If the pitcher (1 player) throws a terrible game then that game is doomer. 1 to 2 players. This averages out because the starting pitcher only plays 1 of every 5 games. To suspend a starting pitcher per starts is retarded due to everything I said.

[Ruien]

Maybe you will understand this way.

Game 7 of the World Series. Arrieta is pitching and Trout is playing. Who is going to effect the game more and cause their team to win/lose the last game of the season?

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

If your starting pitchers can't keep you in the game, your every day players can hit you 6 thousand homeruns and you aren't going to win.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

as proven by mike wright lastnight. They were putting pressure on sanchez who bent but never broke... wright fell apart and the jays took over.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

But then I guess you look at Felix Hernandez during the lean years with Seattle and wasn't he having an era nearly under 2 and finishing the season below .500 cuz the rest of the team was so shit.

I say every day players and pitching staff are of equal value. I think personally, to have a competitive team, your hitting, starting pitch and relief pitching need to have at least 2/3 elements working for them.

[Ruien]

That was an entire team hitting like shit for him. Not just 1 player. It took the entire team to suck that bad to cause him to lose games.

Overall, they are equal in value because they play everyday.

[Ruien]

Which is why they should all be suspended the same amount of games instead of making a starter pitcher lose 5 starts instead of 5 games.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

being suspended for 2 starts would have sufficed though, so "14 games" to ensure it.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

5 starts is 5 games for a starting pitcher. He's not involved in the other 4 games he'd be suspended for. How is it fair to impact a team losing an everyday player for 5 games but losing a starting pitcher for one? That makes no sense.

And no. A pitcher is not more valuable than the players behind him. Dale said it best that they're equal in value, though that's going to vary based on the talent of the player. Now you're saying they're equal value, after trying to say pitchers are more valuable. Which one is it?

[Damian Rey 2.0]

And I'm still wondering if you think Mike Trout is not the most valuable player on his team.

[Ruien]

being suspended for 2 starts would have sufficed though, so "14 games" to ensure it.

That makes sense. But having a pitcher miss 5 starts because an everyday player misses 5 is stupid.

[Ruien]

5 starts is 5 games for a starting pitcher. He's not involved in the other 4 games he'd be suspended for. How is it fair to impact a team losing an everyday player for 5 games but losing a starting pitcher for one? That makes no sense.

And no. A pitcher is not more valuable than the players behind him. Dale said it best that they're equal in value, though that's going to vary based on the talent of the player. Now you're saying they're equal value, after trying to say pitchers are more valuable. Which one is it?

And I'm still wondering if you think Mike Trout is not the most valuable player on his team.

He said an entire team has to suck ass to make Fenix lose games. Not 1 player.

I never said Trout was not the most valuable. You are 100% missing the point.

Seriously, read what I am saying. On the given day a starting pitcher is starting he is more valuable. Over a 5 day period they are equal since the starting pitcher only pitches once.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Pitchers are more valuable than position players. This is your argument. And it's not true.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I get what you're saying in theory. The starting pitcher does have a larger impact on the outcome of the game. Obviously. But it doesn't mean they're more valuable. Those are two different things.

[Ruien]

The argument is having a starting pitcher miss 5 starts instead of 5 games is stupid because of 5he impact they have on the game.

You are just changing the argument because you do not like a certain word I used.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I'm not arguing based in what I do or don't like. Your word choice was poor. You said "more valuable" and that's not true. Bigger impact? Sure. Bigger role? Sure. More valuable? No. That's a blanket statement that doesn't work. Every player provides a different amount of value.

A position player missing 5 games and being replaced with a bench player is not the same as a starter missing one game. The team losing the suspended player is not receiving the same punishment.

The Angels would hurt more losing Mike Trout for 5 games than they would losing Garrett Richards for one start/game. Because Trout is their most valuable player. Richards, and his 4 starting brethren, are not.

To which I ask, who is losing out more, Baltimore for losing their best player for a week or Kansas City losing their 3rd or 4th best pitcher for one game?

[Ruien]

Any normal pitcher has more of an effect on the game than any starting normal everyday player. So yes they are.

You keep bringing up Trout. Not me. I am talking players of equal talent. You want to talk about a superstar and a average player.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Of course because the suspension in question involves a superstar (Machado) and an average player (Ventura).

I've already conceded that I'm theory you're not wrong but given the context the suspensions are not equal.

[Droford]

2 runs for the Blue Jays so far thru 7. Told you

[Droford]

Also Ventura got his suspension recuced to 8 games and start it tonight..Manny should at least get hus 4 to 3.

[Droford]

Update Manny took his suspension and starts tomorrow

[Bad News Gertner]

Jays definitely had their chances yesterday.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Jays struggle against Gallardo (Whom I wish they picked up in the offseason), and Baltimore's bullpen is very good. Jays need to strike early for the most part to get to Baltimore.

[Evil Vito]

OFFICIAL SUPERWIN LIST

4/3: Francisco Liriano
4/6: Kenta Maeda
4/14: Jason Hammel
4/18: John Lackey
4/19: Jason Hammel (2)
4/22: Jeff Samardzija
5/1: Clayton Kershaw
5/3: Jake Arrieta
5/11: Noah Syndergaard
5/15: Jose Fernandez
5/15: Dan Straily
5/18: Travis Wood
5/21: Matt Cain
5/22: Madison Bumgarner
5/22: Jerad Eickoff
5/24: Jason Hammel (3)
5/24: Jake Odorizzi
6/2: Madison Bumgarner (2)
6/9: Jorge De La Rosa
6/11: Tanner Roark
6/18: Chris Hatcher

[Evil Vito]

As much as I hate to say it I'm quite certain that the Mets' hopes of winning the division are already fucking dead.

I knew the Nats would be a good team but I never expected them to be THIS good. Yes there is plenty of season to go but since the six division format was implemented over 90% of teams with a 6+ game lead in their division at this point in the season have held on to win it. That bodes well for the Nats, Giants, and Rangers who are all above that threshold. Oh and of course the Cubs who had theirs in the bag a long time ago.

[Evil Vito]

And really as I look at the Mets' schedule, the only bad team they play between now and the break is the Braves. And they just lost their series to them this weekend with a 4 game set against them next weekend. They also have the Royals, Cubs, Marlins, and 7 games against the Nats before the ASG. If they play the way they have lately through that stretch they could be sub-.500 by the break.

They have looked like ass for the better part of a month and a half and are only 5 games over .500 because of their hot end to April. The starting pitching is still there minus Harvey but they can't hit anything other than solo HRs, they have no speed, and their bullpen is coming back to earth after a great start.

In the two Wild Card era they should stay in the mix for a postseason spot most of the season even if their recent slide continues but there is no reason at all to expect a Cespedes-esque trade this year. They gutted the farm to go for it all last year and unfortunately they fell just short of a title. It was a worthwhile gamble because 2015 was such an incredible ride, but there is a very real chance that this group of pitchers won't get to October again. Not with the offense they have now they won't.

[ClockShot]

Red Sox place Rusney Castillo on waivers. Who's due $10.5 mil. this season and about $50 mil. going to 2019. Looking like nobody's gonna grab him.

Yankees are off the hook if Boston just gives up on him. Doesn't make the Kei Igawa signing look so bad.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Dale Scott got smashed in the balls and had to leave the game, game is currently delayed while Dan Ayasonia (sp) puts on the home plate ump gear.

[Lock Jaw]

Jays falling apart

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Meh. Stroman was pathetic. Not much you can do when your starting pitcher comes in and gives up 7 runs and can't get through the third inning.

[Lock Jaw]

Yeah, by "Jays" I mostly meant Stroman....

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

The East has solved him..... he's going to have to make some adjustments [/buckmartinezpattabler]

[Droford]

I hate to say I told you so lol

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Jays put up 6 runs today.

[Lock Jaw]

I hate to say I told you so lol

I sincerely doubt that, good sir.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Never really understand opposing team fans who are naturally antagonistic and are unable to look at the game objectively. What did you tell us?

Jays pitching today cost them, not any inability to get runs. Baltimore certainly had something to do with that, given that 1-9 in the order can do damage. You aren't winning many games when your starter gets shelled for 7 runs before the end of the fourth inning.

Looking forward to the next time they play tho. Been a good season series so far, and not much bullshit between the 2 teams.

[Droford]

Jays put up 6 runs today.

Wasnt enough though..

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Wasnt enough though..

:| you are really odd

[Droford]

Blue Jays score 21 runs in 3 games still lose 2 out of 3

[Evil Vito]

I think I'm checking out of Mets baseball for a week or so. Getting swept at home by a 100 loss Braves team is bad enough. Scoring 4 runs total in said series and getting fucking 1 hit today is just a joke.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Blue Jays score 21 runs in 3 games still lose 2 out of 3

Reminds me how Baltimore lost 3 of 4 in Toronto after scoring a boatload of runs.

[Droford]

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[Damian Rey 2.0]

Jesus that hat is savage.

[Emperor Smeat]

:D Walk-off win by the Red Sox today. Needed that after how abysmal the series with the White Sox became.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

was an awful game tho, i had the misfortune of watching it.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I'm still so confused how the Jays were able to swindle Oakland into giving up J.D. for Brett Lawrie. That guy is such a dink lol

[Frank Drebin]

Forgot to say Happy Rod Beck Day yesterday.

So happy belated RBD!