Ratings Thread

[Emperor Smeat]

WWE's lucky the 3rd hour wasn't way lower since outside of the main event, that was one of the worst ever in terms of quality.

Last week's Smackdown had a poor 2nd hour in terms of quality but the first hour was better than any of RAW's last night.

[xrodmuc316]

Read the results last Friday, and it sounded like a house show.

WWE clearly has no real pressure from USA Network to improve ratings, otherwise there is no way that script gets on air.

[Mr. Nerfect]

WWE structures their rosters so weirdly. Let Heyman have all the guys Vince doesn’t “get.” Put everyone he wants on FOX. Let Heyman run Raw autonomously.

[Emperor Smeat]

Last night's WWE Backstage episode didn't crack Showbuzz's Top 150 so another abysmal number happened. Lowest viewership that got tracked was a show on Univision that did 93k at the #136 spot.

[Emperor Smeat]

Backstage ended up doubling last week's viewership according to PWI.

The 11/12 episode of WWE Backstage on FS1 failed to crack the top 150 series on cable television last night, but brought in 100,000 viewers, more than doubling last week's 49,000.

[Sepholio]

so if Backstage brought in 100k viewers and wasn't in the top 150 how the hell does Univision get ranked 136 with 93k viewers? Seems screwy.

[Emperor Smeat]

so if Backstage brought in 100k viewers and wasn't in the top 150 how the hell does Univision get ranked 136 with 93k viewers? Seems screwy.

Mainly due to generating a better key demo number than Backstage did. Lowest on Shwobuzz's chart for the night was a 0.04 in that demo.

For some reference, the #150 ranked show generated 350k viewers but was 0.01 points lower than Univision's show.

[BigCrippyZ]

WWE structures their rosters so weirdly. Let Heyman have all the guys Vince doesn’t “get.” Put everyone he wants on FOX. Let Heyman run Raw autonomously.

Don’t know why you’re surprised. When you have a currently moronic, senile and/or delusional old man running things, you’re quality is going to be shit. This shouldn’t even be remotely shocking to anyone.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Don’t know why you’re surprised. When you have a currently moronic, senile and/or delusional old man running things, you’re quality is going to be shit. This shouldn’t even be remotely shocking to anyone.

I’m not surprised.

[slik]

AEW - 957K


NXT - 750K


https://i.postimg.cc/ZKS2VSnz/EJXM782-XUAEBRH9.jpg

[Sepholio]

I think next weeks ratings are going to be a key indicator in where they are going to settle for the time being. This episode has the obvious post-PPV bump; let's see if it stays around there. I honestly think it may go up after this weeks show though.

[slik]

AEW - This week was a really good show so it could.

NXT has the Survivor Series go-home show next week as well.

[Sepholio]

Oh yeah....when the main roster will invade them :/

[Emperor Smeat]

I think next weeks ratings are going to be a key indicator in where they are going to settle for the time being. This episode has the obvious post-PPV bump; let's see if it stays around there. I honestly think it may go up after this weeks show though.

3 weeks from now is probably the better indicator since next week is NXT's go-home show for both War Games and Survivor Series while the week after is the post-PPV show which should get a viewership bump.

Those 2 weeks are also NXT's strongest chances of beating AEW because if they don't, then the only time its happening this year is when AEW takes their Christmas week break.

By then AEW will have settle in for a bit and NXT will start settling down since no more main roster shows to help boost interest.

[Droford]

NXT is consistently a better in ring product all the way around. AEW can't touch them on women's wrestling though. AEW wins on storylines and just looking better in bigger arenas plus having a much better Tag Division.

This is coming from someone who really likes AEW and has been to two shows already. I always start with AEW off my DVR when I can start watching.

[Mr. Nerfect]

AEW has got quite a few advantages, but I don’t think they can count on them long-term, especially if NXT loads itself up, pays off some big stuff and starts travelling. It’s a good thing AEW are bringing along MJF. They need stars.

[slik]

Smackdown:


Hr 1 - 2.45
Hr 2 - 2.26

Avg - 2.35 million viewers
(credit - showbuzzdaily)


Most Watched on YT:
Bray talks about DBry - 436k
Undisputed Era - 374k
Bray's new title - 362k


https://i.postimg.cc/SKFfbDsX/Fast-Demo-2019-Nov-15-FRI.png

[slik]

Here's how SD has done since debuting on FOX


https://i.imgur.com/g8BW3vW.png

[Emperor Smeat]

Not surprised it dropped since once you take out the NXT invasion stuff and Draft, Smackdown has been mostly dull and/or boring since the move to FOX.

Probably would be looking at a lot closer to a sub 2 million number if you took out the boost SD gets just for being on FOX.

[#1-norm-fan]

CyNick used to claim WWE was massively successful because it “dummied” everything on cable (even when it lost in the ratings). Would be interesting to hear him excuse it getting “dummied” 3 times over by Hawaii 50.

[Emperor Smeat]

RAW was up by around 69k compared to last week's show albeit with another sub 2-million 3rd hour.

1st hour was lower compared to last week but 2nd and 3rd hours were higher.

Took the #4, #5, and #6 spots in the demo rankings compared to last week's #4, #5, and #8 rankings.

8PM - 2,245,000
9PM - 2,211,000
10PM - 1,925,000

[slik]

2.13 average

[Emperor Smeat]

Last night's episode of WWE Backstage ended up doing 180k viewers and a #104 ranking according to Showbuzz Daily.

So basically adding Punk was worth an extra 80k viewers compared to last week's numbers.

[slik]

AEW - 893k
18 to 34 - .25
18 to 49 - .39

NXT - 916k
18 to 34 - .19
18 to 49 - .30

[Emperor Smeat]

That's one of those Good/Bad type situations for NXT.

Good that they managed to hit over 900k and break AEW's streak but at the same time, AEW still managed to rank higher than NXT (#8 vs. #14) and the gap being that small despite everything going into NXT's show.

Also seems AEW was hit a lot harder from the Presidential debates and NXT got more of WWE's older main shows audience to carry over for their show.

[xrodmuc316]

That's one of those Good/Bad type situations for NXT.

Good that they managed to hit over 900k and break AEW's streak but at the same time, AEW still managed to rank higher than NXT (#8 vs. #14) and the gap being that small despite everything going into NXT's show.

Also seems AEW was hit a lot harder from the Presidential debates and NXT got more of WWE's older main shows audience to carry over for their show.

I think both shows step it up when the ratings are that close. 25k difference is just going to make them both bring it a little more next week.

[Emperor Smeat]

Based on the Observer Newsletter, NXT's start and over-run ended up being the key reasons why they were able to beat AEW this week. If only the over-run was the strongest, NXT likely wouldn't have been able to beat AEW.

NXT's show started out higher than AEW, spiked with the Becky Lynch segment, and then went into a noticeable freefall until the final 30 minutes and over-run. AEW started out lower, was mostly steady in the 1st hour, spiked big by the time of Jericho's segment, had a noticeable fall afterwards, and then managed to rebound to around its starting level by the end of the show.

In terms of the 18-49 demo, NXT didn't beat AEW in any of the head-to-head quarters. The Becky segment was the closest NXT ever got to AEW's demo numbers.

[slik]

SmackDown:


Hr 1 - 2.7
Hr 2 - 2.5

Avg - 2.6 million
(credit - showbuzzdaily)

[slik]

Last week was:

RAW - 2.13
AEW - 893k
NXT - 916k
SD - 2.60


Will be interesting to see what post ppv bump RAW/NXT gets and how AEW/NXT/SD do airing the day before and after Thanksgiving in the U.S.

[slik]

No ppv bump for RAW, it actually went down instead


Hr 1 - 2.24
Hr 2 - 2.19
Hr 3 - 1.89

avg - 2.11 million
(credit - showbuzzdaily)

Most Watched on YT:
Rey wins US Title - 1.1 million
Rusev arrested - 1 million
KO stuns Seth - 930k

[Emperor Smeat]

If I had to guess, probably just audience fatigue considering it was the 4th day in a row of WWE shows and very little meaningful Survivor Series fallout happened. Outside of Rollins opening promo, felt a lot more like a regular RAW than something coming off of a PPV.

Smackdown used to have the same problem whenever WWE would run a TakeOver on top of a PPV for a weekend.

In terms of competition, WWE was lucky the MNF game was a blowout by half and one of the weaker games this season in terms of viewership because of it.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Raw is really the least interesting show wrestling has got going at the moment. SmackDown has the FOX presence, AEW is new and not WWE and NXT is at least something they are trying with to get over on the same night as AEW. Raw is just three hours of stale bread.

AEW and NXT being that close is basically a watch in terms in USA vs. TNT, given how ratings are calculated, but overall it has to be considered the second win for NXT, given that Nielsen goes with about 10% either way and his doesn't factor in the WWE Network numbers for NXT.

Will be interesting to see if this starts a new trend of NXT beating out AEW each week.

[Emperor Smeat]

WWE Backstage ended up doing 121k for viewers and a #125 ranking for last night's episode without CM Punk. Also a 0.5 in the 18-49 demo ranking.

Had it dropped by another 0.1 of a point, would have been in the 140 range for rankings and even possibly not get ranked at all.

[slik]

Smackdown:


Hr 1 - 2.35
Hr 2 - 2.32

Avg - 2.33 million
(credit - showbuzzdaily)


Most Watched on YT:
Roman vs Roode - 745k
Sheamus Promo - 515k
Fiend attacks DBry - 483k


http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Fast-Demo-2019-Nov-29-FRI.png

[Emperor Smeat]

Within a span of 2 months, SmackDown went from having a very sizable lead in terms of the key demo rankings and hitting the 1.0+ target FOX wants to now being under half of its initial weeks and barely beating other shows in the demo rankings.

[xrodmuc316]

Within a span of 2 months, SmackDown went from having a very sizable lead in terms of the key demo rankings and hitting the 1.0+ target FOX wants to now being under half of its initial weeks and barely beating other shows in the demo rankings.

It's because they have changed literally nothing. Smackdown isn't as horribly written as Raw, but it certainly hasn't gotten any better.

[Triple A]

Hmm...

AEW: 663,000 / 0.26 in 18-49

NXT: 810,000 / 0.24 in 18-49

NXT wins for the second week in a row. AEW gets its lowest viewer number yet...

http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-wednesday-cable-originals-network-finals-11-27-2019.html

[slik]

Everything went down last week other than NXT tho

RAW did bad and SD did bad

[Emperor Smeat]

Bit interesting that none of WWE's show got a PPV bump from Survivor Series. Not sure if that's ever happened before where no WWE show got a bump from a PPV.

Old people and AEW having one of its smallest ever advantages in the key demo were the reasons for NXT's big win last week.

[slik]

RAW:

Hr 1 - 2.42
Hr 2 - 2.28
Hr 3 - 1.93

Avg - 2.21 million
(credit - showbuzzdaily)

Most Watched on YT:
Lana/Lashley arrested - 2.6 mil
Rey saves Orton - 1.6 mil
RKO on AJ - 1.4 mil

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">663K was the number for AEW Dynamite last week. <br><br>The +3 DVR has them up to 972K <br><br>That's the difference +309K that didn't view on Wednesday b/c they had to travel or had other plans. Even after hearing the reviews they watched.</p>&mdash; �� �� �� (@DayDreamThis) <a href="https://twitter.com/DayDreamThis/status/1202301237024169986?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 4, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Emperor Smeat]

Last night's WWE Backstage episode ended up doing 138k viewers and a #103 ranking.

It also did a 0.8 in terms of the key demo.

[slik]

NXT went up to 989 after DVR was added

[Bad News Gertner]

Lol that so doesn't count.

AEW is getting desperate

[Shisen Kopf]

AEW needs to count dogs that were in the room too as part of the ratings. Maybe cats too. That'll make them win the WAR

[Mr. Nerfect]

They should also count dead people who would have watched had they been alive.

[Bad News Gertner]

All it means is people are watching NXT and DVRing AEW so there's no way that counts. They are the second option.

[BigCrippyZ]

They should also count dead people who would have watched had they been alive.

In fairness, given WWE's superiority in the 50+ age demo, WWE should certainly factor that in as well.

[Mr. Nerfect]

All it mean is people are watching NXT and DVRing AEW so there's no way that counts. They are the second option.

As predicted. People mocked the "marathon not a sprint" line, but that's very clearly been their approach. Let AEW cool before they start using main roster names and actually doing angles and whatnot.

[Mr. Nerfect]

In fairness, given WWE's superiority in the 50+ age demo, WWE should certainly factor that in as well.

I'm fairly certain anyone who still watches Raw is clinically dead.

[BigCrippyZ]

As predicted. People mocked the "marathon not a sprint" line, but that's very clearly been their approach. Let AEW cool before they start using main roster names and actually doing angles and whatnot.

Yeah, that's gonna work out really fucking well in the long run. Just what folks wanna see, NXT becoming Raw and SD. JFC. :lol:

[BigCrippyZ]

I'm fairly certain anyone who still watches Raw is clinically dead.

True. :lol:

[Mr. Nerfect]

Yeah, that's gonna work out really fucking well in the long run. Just what folks wanna see, NXT becoming Raw and SD. JFC. :lol:

I don't think that's the plan though. I mean, Meltzer said it would be at the start, but that was obviously just assumption or baseless speculation, and it didn't really make sense. I mean, this company doesn't do things logically, but AEW only really exists because of fans' frustrations towards them, so it wouldn't make sense to give them more of the same to cure that.

This is a Triple H boutique product and something that is being used to shop more content and the idea that he can run things when Vince is sitting in an Alpha Entertainment boardroom. There's nothing inherently wrong with a lot of the WWE talent, and most of them would do damn well in AEW if they were there. I think the plan is going to be more Daniel Bryan vs. Adam Cole than Natalya shows up and farts in Dakota Kai's coffee.

But hey, this is WWE. I do think that their desire to smoosh everything is even stronger than their desire to fuck everything up. It's smooshing everything that lets them fuck everything up. And so far, NXT has been a logical product. I understand the anxieties behind "This is WWE" though.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Like, not to derail this into content that much, but you could potentially be looking at the next Takeover/When Worlds Collide/whatever the fuck they call it featuring:

* Adam Cole vs. Tommaso Ciampa for the NXT Title
* Shayna Baslzer vs. Rhea Ripley for the NXT Women's Title
* Finn Balor vs. Johnny Gargano
* Roderick Strong vs. Velveteen Dream for the NXT North American Title

All of that has been built up and held off, and all of it has some sort of appeal to that hardcore fan. I think the arguments that NXT are "hot shotting" and blowing their wad with stuff is a bit premature.

[Emperor Smeat]

Worlds Collide 2020 is set to be NXT vs. NXT UK theme. The first one included 205 Live but the brand has been in bad shape due to the Draft gutting its stars and NXT taking over the branding of the title.

NXT is already giving away Baslzer vs. Ripley for the title in two weeks after just a few weeks of build.

[XL]

That shows clearly that AEW have impacted the booking of NXT; they rarely did anything like that on weekly “TV” before, it all built to the Takeover event. I don’t think the last few weeks have necessarily been good indicators for either brand tbf. Let’s see how NXT does now that the Survivor Series booking has completely wrapped up.

[Droford]

I'm fairly certain anyone who still watches Raw is clinically dead.

I knew it! Fuck

[Droford]

Like, not to derail this into content that much, but you could potentially be looking at the next Takeover/When Worlds Collide/whatever the fuck they call it featuring:

* Adam Cole vs. Tommaso Ciampa for the NXT Title
* Shayna Baslzer vs. Rhea Ripley for the NXT Women's Title
* Finn Balor vs. Johnny Gargano
* Roderick Strong vs. Velveteen Dream for the NXT North American Title

All of that has been built up and held off, and all of it has some sort of appeal to that hardcore fan. I think the arguments that NXT are "hot shotting" and blowing their wad with stuff is a bit premature.

Gargano and Dream being out put a wrench in that card

[Emperor Smeat]

Results for last night's AEW vs NXT episodes:

AEW got 851k viewers, #8 ranking, and a 0.32 in the key demo (18-49)

NXT got 845k, #12 ranking, and a 0.29 in the key demo. Besides the 50+ demo, NXT also won the 18-34 demo (0.2 vs. 0.19).

Seems AEW closing the gap in the 50+ was likely the key reason for the win in terms of viewership since it was 0.38 to 0.31 in favor of NXT while last week was 0.4 to 0.25 in favor of NXT. NXT closing the gaps in the other demos was the key reason why the viewership gap was very small.

[Emperor Smeat]

Also only the second time since the Wednesday Night War started that both AEW and NXT went up in viewership for the night compared to the week before.

The other time was on November 6th.

[xrodmuc316]

That worlds collide shit is dumb. Just another excuse to break brand exclusivity.

[Mr. Nerfect]

The Nielsen ratings are way too variable to consider that a clear win for AEW. Especially when you consider that there are no doubt people who watch NXT on the Network when it drops.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

oh god just shut the fuck up Noid.

[slik]

Smackdown:


Hr 1 - 2.54
Hr 2 - 2.36

Avg - 2.45 million
(credit - showbuzzdaily)


Most Watched on YT:
Dog food poured on Roman - 719k
Roman vs Dolph - 645k
Bray teases Miz - 398k


https://i.postimg.cc/C1Hz3RSH/Fast-Demo-2019-Dec-06-FRI.png

[slik]

Here are numbers for the week, for those curious:

SD - 2.45 million
RAW - 2.21 million
AEW - 851 thousand
NXT - 845 thousand

[Emperor Smeat]

Take away the college football games as an excuse and Smackdown is still getting very close to losing their advantage in the key demo group for FOX.

Its already been struggling to stay ahead of the viewership minimum FOX wants for the show and lost the 1.0+ weekly average needed for FOX to break even in ad revenues due to the lower ad rates.

If there is one thing that can be proven without a doubt is AEW's arrival on TV hasn't led to WWE bothering to improve their main roster shows in terms of quality. They are way too content in just letting NXT handle that issue and blow through the brand's good will in order to beat AEW.

[Droford]

I watched the college football game as I bet on the game. Smackdown is still sitting on my DVR waiting to be watched lol

Overall I found it crazy that game was responsible for any impact on wrestling ratings since Utah has no national fanbase, Oregon might have a small one, but it was a boring game..

[slik]

RAW:


Hr 1 - 2.25
Hr 2 - 2.20
Hr 3 - 1.99

Avg - 2.15 million
(credit - showbuzzdaily)


Most Watched on YT:

Rey/AJ - 1.5 million
Divorce Court - 1.5 million
Seth/AOP attack KO - 642k

[Emperor Smeat]

One of those Good/Bad type situations.

Good in the sense that the 3rd hour just barely missed the 2 million mark and the 1st to 3rd hour drop being a lot smaller compared to last week.

Bad in the sense that the 1st hour was a lot weaker than last week and the big reason for the overall number being lower.

[Emperor Smeat]

Last night's WWE Backstage episode with Punk's second appearance actually ended up being lower than last week's show. Also went down in the key demo rating.

127k viewers, #128 ranking, and a 0.6 in the key demo.

For some comparisons, last week's episode was 138k, #103 ranking, and 0.8 in the key demo.

[Emperor Smeat]

Results for last night's AEW and NXT episodes:

AEW got 778k viewers, #11 ranking, and a 0.28 in the key demo.

NXT got 778k viewers, #21 ranking, and a 0.24 in the key demo.

Seems them drawing was due to AEW's advantages in the younger demos got offset by NXT's huge advantage in the older demo.

Interesting enough AEW actually managed to beat NXT in the 25-54 demo (0.32 vs. 0.27) but NXT got carried by a huge 50+ demo that also washed away that advantage for AEW (0.38 vs. 0.29).

[slik]

SD:


Hr 1 - 2.42
Hr 2 - 2.26

Avg - 2.34 million
(credit - showbuzzdaily)


Most Watched on YT:
Roman attacks Ziggler/Corbin - 2.4 million
Firefly Funhouse in Miz's house - 457k
New Day confront Corbin/Ziggler - 294k


https://i.postimg.cc/QCXYpTWH/Fast-Demo-2019-Dec-13-FRI.png

[slik]

Here's the weekly ratings:


SD - 2.34 million
RAW - 2.15 million
AEW - 778k
NXT - 778k

[Emperor Smeat]

That disparity between the #1 and #2 most watched clips on Youtube is pretty crazy.

Also WWE would kill to get those numbers Hawaii Five-O keeps getting especially with older viewers.

[DrA]

Are there any other fanbases that obsess on ratings as much as wrestling fans do? It seems like it might be unique to the internet wrestling community.

[Emperor Smeat]

Cable news fans?

Not sure if they still do it but FOX News and its fans used to constantly gloat about their prime-time shows beating MSNBC and CNN shows.

[#1-norm-fan]

Are there any other fanbases that obsess on ratings as much as wrestling fans do? It seems like it might be unique to the internet wrestling community.

I think it’s just people holding out hope that if the ratings eventually get bad enough, WWE will start trying and wrestling will become good again. It’s unique to wrestling because, while other scripted shows might run for a decade tops and once it dips in quality you might as well give up on it, wrestling has been down and recovered many times before. It’s just taking longer than before to recover quality-wise. So the more the ratings reflect the quality, the more hope things will change.

[slik]

Are there any other fanbases that obsess on ratings as much as wrestling fans do? It seems like it might be unique to the internet wrestling community.

Yes

Cable News fans
Soap Opera fans

[DrA]

I do it too and find it more interesting than the actual product. I was trying to think of a second sentence for this post, something about Wheel of Fortune fans.

[DAMN iNATOR]

I do it too and find it more interesting than the actual product. I was trying to think of a second sentence for this post, something about Wheel of Fortune fans.

Pat Sajak took ill for the Disney Week WoF tapings, so Vanna hosted for him the whole week - on 2 hours notice. That was pretty amazing.

[slik]

RAW:

Hr 1 - 2.20
Hr 2 - 2.09
Hr 3 - 1.85

Avg - 2.05 million
(credit - showbuzzdaily)

Most Watched on YT:
Seth/AOP attack Rey - 1.3 million
RKO on AJ - 1.1 million
Lana/Lashley Proposal - 694k

[Emperor Smeat]

Wouldn't be surprised if the Gauntlet match drove away a ton of viewers.

Not only was the match itself not that good, it was also one of the biggest wastes of an hour in years. Double whammy of not having an actual winner and Rollins making it all completely meaningless when he simply named himself as Rey's next challenger.

[slik]

Hr 3 of RAW was #11 in the demos

[Emperor Smeat]

Last night's WWE Backstage episode didn't rank in ShowBuzz Daily's Top 150 shows for Tuesday.

Lowest ranked show in terms of key demo was a 0.5 meaning Backstage did less than that. Lowest ranked show in terms of viewership was 104k meaning its possible Backstage could have also done less than that.

For some comparisons, last week's episode did 127k viewers, #128 ranking, and a 0.6 in the key demo.

[slik]

Backstage ended up with 95k viewers

[Emperor Smeat]

Results for last night's AEW and NXT episodes:

AEW got 683k viewers while NXT got 795k and also won several other notable demos for the first time since the Wednesday Night War started.

Rankings and actual demo numbers haven't been released yet by ShowBuzz Daily.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">NXT wins the night with 795,000 vs. AEW Dynamite 683,000 live &amp; same-night-DVR viewers. More details soon at <a href="https://t.co/b30cDz6YY1">https://t.co/b30cDz6YY1</a>. NXT also wins adult and young male demographics for first time across the board.</p>&mdash; Pro Wrestling Torch (@PWTorch) <a href="https://twitter.com/PWTorch/status/1207769933691719682?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 19, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Soo far WWE's tactic of stunting AEW's growth by having NXT eat into their viewership has been working very well since they promoted NXT on the main brand for Survivor Series. Its also come at the cost of those lost viewers from AEW not jumping over en masse to NXT but WWE never cared about that and why the overall Wednesday audience has shrunk a lot more than it has grown.

[Emperor Smeat]

Rankings went #27 and a 0.27 key demo rating for NXT compared to #30 and a 0.25 key demo rating for AEW.

NXT's biggest wins were with Females 18-49 (+0.6), Males 12-34 (+0.4), and the 50+ demo (+0.9). AEW's biggest win was Males 18-49 (+0.3).

[slik]

Here's the full chart:

https://i.postimg.cc/MTHhy6rh/EMLs-W0p-XUAIy-Iqa.png

[slik]

Alaskan Bush People dominating NXT and AEW

[Bad News Gertner]

AEW fading. Should be on the WWE Network by 2021.

[Seanny One Ball]

I'd watch a show about Eric Bischoff and his family moving to Alaska.

Alaskan Bisch People, make it happen.

[Jordan]

The thing is, AEW will end up with 500k+ via on Demand. I just want to point out that I use Sling and regularly DVR Dynamite and I am not able to fast forward the commercials.

[slik]

You are correct @ Jordan X.

AEW is doing fine, is a good product and will continue to do fine in the forseeable future IMO.

[xrodmuc316]

Alaskan Bush People dominating NXT and AEW

Does that mean they live in bushes, or are these relatives of George W Bush that happen to live in Alaska?

Either way, I'm intrigued.

[slik]

IDK either but also VERY intrigued!

[Emperor Smeat]

The thing is, AEW will end up with 500k+ via on Demand. I just want to point out that I use Sling and regularly DVR Dynamite and I am not able to fast forward the commercials.

Only problem is live viewers are what matter the most to advertisers and AEW more than NXT needs the stronger live viewership, especially in the key demos.

If NXT fails on tv, WWE can just put it back on the Network to help strength the appeal of the service. If AEW fails on tv, they don't have a similar option available and instead either go belly up or if lucky, land on a worse tv network.

[Bad News Gertner]

Lol they can't count people who taped the show. It just means there was something better on to watch.

AEW getting desperate

[Droford]

I tape both shows and watch both later on.

Also Vince will probably bring in Bushwhackers 2000 or something

[slik]

Smackdown went back up:


Hr 1 - 2.49
Hr 2 - 2.34

Avg - 2.42 million
(credit - showbuzzdaily)


Most Watched on YT:

Miz/DBry vs Corbin/Ziggler - 940k
Mandy kisses Otis - 513k
Sasha taunts Lacey Evan's daughter - 485k


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[slik]

Weekly TV Ratings for the big four:

SD - 2.42 million
RAW - 2.05 million
NXT - 795k
AEW - 683k

[slik]

RAW:

Hr 1 - 1.96
Hr 2 - 1.86
Hr 3 - 1.69

Avg - 1.84 million
(credit - showbuzzdaily)


Most Watched on YT:

Seth/AOP attack Rey/Samoa Joe - 1.1 million
Rusev vs No Way Jose - 858k
R-Truth/Tozawa/Santa Claus - 411k


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[Emperor Smeat]

Not surprised since they faced a triple whammy of very tough sports competition, being on near Christmas, and last week's show being very bad overall.

Also Love & Hip Hop being back for the past few weeks has hurt RAW's rankings.

NXT probably going to suffer in ratings as well tomorrow since its facing off against NBA's most hyped up Christmas game of the night.

[xrodmuc316]

Not surprised since they faced a triple whammy of very tough sports competition, being on near Christmas, and last week's show being very bad overall.

Also Love & Hip Hop being back for the past few weeks has hurt RAW's rankings.

NXT probably going to suffer in ratings as well tomorrow since its facing off against NBA's most hyped up Christmas game of the night.

Don't forget taped show as well.

Besides, it's pretty clear at this point that Vince got his Billion dollar contracts and threw in the towel.

[Emperor Smeat]

Tuesday's episode of WWE Backstage ended up doing 153k viewers, #124 ranking, and a 0.5 in the key demo.

For some comparisons, last week's episode did 95k viewers but did not rank in Showbuzz's Top 150 shows.

[Emperor Smeat]

NXT's Christmas episode ended up doing 831,000 viewers, #29 ranking, and a 0.22 in the key demo.

Viewership went up compared to last week but the other two were down.

[slik]

SD

Hr 1 - 2.54
Hr 2 - 2.34

Avg - 2.44


credit - showbuzzdaily


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[Bad News Gertner]

AEW should try starting a ratings war with Main Event. It's more their level.

[slik]

RAW:

Hr 1 - 2.53
Hr 2 - 2.47
Hr 3 - 2.33

Avg - 2.44 million
(credit - showbuzzdaily)


Most Watched on YT:
Liv Morgan returns - 2.1 million
Orton/AJ - 1.4 million
KO/Joe battle Seth/AOP - 684k

[Emperor Smeat]

RAW rebounding from the Christmas week low was expected but also being up compared to 2 weeks ago is the real improvement.

Also helped that the competition was very weak since nothing outside of sports hit over 2 million for viewers or were a real threat in the key demo stuff for the Top 10.

[Mr. Nerfect]

That's a fucking surprising number for Raw.

[Evil Vito]

I wonder if it was aided by the fact that aside from NFL Sunday, networks put fuck all on TV during the week between Christmas and New Year.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Probably, but you can also imagine people just fucking around on their phones. But that doesn't hurt.

[Emperor Smeat]

Tuesday's episode of WWE Backstage ended up doing 97k viewers, #124 ranking, and a 0.3 in the key demo.

For some comparisons, last week's episode did 153k viewers, #124 ranking, and a 0.5 in the key demo.

[Emperor Smeat]

Results for last night's AEW and NXT episodes:

AEW got 967k viewers, #13 ranking, and a 0.36 in the key demo ranking.

NXT got 548k viewers, #66 ranking, and a 0.15 in the key demo ranking.

Considering the monster numbers from the college bowl games and ESPN's college football shows, AEW getting almost 1 million is pretty good. Same for NXT getting over 500k for a mostly throw-away show. Also AEW and NXT got really lucky the Rose Bowl wasn't the night game since that one was over 5 million higher than the Sugar Bowl (15.6 vs. 9.9 million).

[Mr. Nerfect]

This was probably AEW's best chance for a knockout. I wouldn't say they quite got there, but it's far from a bad number by any stretch. But it might be their best for quite a while.

[slik]

SD has a lower viewership than RAW

Hr 1 - 2.47
Hr 2 - 2.37

Avg - 2.42 million


SD struggled in the demos as well this week, not as many categories in green.

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[slik]

Lana and Rusev > Roman Reigns

[slik]

Abysmal YT optics for SD next day, usually a segment or two is at 1 or 2 million by now


Sheamus Returns - 706k
Usos save Roman - 415k
John Morrison appears - 361k

[slik]

Fiend attacking Dbry only at 281k

Womp Womp!

[Emperor Smeat]

Smackdown getting hammered in the key demos was very bad since FOX needs those numbers to be very high in order to come close to breaking even with ad costs.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Paul Heyman earning that Vince McMahon trust.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I mean, circumstances and Vince involvement aside, the only time the "B" show has beaten the "A" show has been when Heyman has had the book. I'm not watching Raw and it's not a sustained run yet, but Heyman did the same thing with SmackDown when he had the book way back in 2002/2003.

[slik]

YT views are shockingly low for the day after RAW (especially Brock, whose usually at or above 2 million views by now):


Big Show returns - 840k
6-man tag - 812k
Lana/Lashley/Rusev - 604k
Brock in the Rumble - 470k


I can't recall the last time at least one vid had not hit a million views by now

[Emperor Smeat]

RAW ended up being down compared to last week but not by much. Also didn't take advantage of the lack of major sports competition last night but did beat their blood rival Love & Hip Hop.

8PM - 2.55 million
9PM - 2.40 million
10PM - 2.19 million

Overall - 2.39 million

Next week RAW likely is going to get hammered badly since its going up against the College Football title game.

[slik]

Big drop from hour 1 to hour 3!

[xrodmuc316]

Big drop from hour 1 to hour 3!

That drop is like the total Dynamite audience :'(

[Mr. Nerfect]

Say what you want about the quality of WWE, those numbers are pretty impressive for today's day and age. A 2.39 is several time the size of the AEW audience. Heyman is doing the job he was put there to do.

[Emperor Smeat]

Tuesday's episode of WWE Backstage ended up doing 124k viewers, #145 ranking, and a 0.4 in the key demo.

Last week's episode did 97k viewers, #124 ranking, and a 0.3 in the key demo.

Despite having a better demo number than last week, the competition ended up being stronger this week in the 0.6-0.4 range for why they dropped hard in the rankings.

[BigCrippyZ]

Say what you want about the quality of WWE, those numbers are pretty impressive for today's day and age. A 2.39 is several time the size of the AEW audience. Heyman is doing the job he was put there to do.

Is he really though? I don't have the time and/or energy to tune into a 2+ hour show that doesn't matter or won't matter in 3, 6, or 9 months from now.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Is he really though? I don't have the time and/or energy to tune into a 2+ hour show that doesn't matter or won't matter in 3, 6, or 9 months from now.

Well, if he was put there to stabilize the ratings of a shitty three-hour show that isn't going to matter in 3, 6 or 9 months from now, then sure. I can't imagine Vince being anything other than happy with the past two ratings.

[Emperor Smeat]

Results for last night's AEW and NXT episodes:

AEW got 947k viewers, #6 ranking, and a 0.36 in the key demo ranking.

NXT got 712k viewers, #55 ranking, and a 0.19 in the key demo ranking.

NXT got a sizeable viewership bump but wouldn't be surprised if the drop in rankings in recent weeks is due to them dropping the ball during the holidays in terms of maintaining momentum and potential burnout starting to show in terms of audience interest for non-TakeOver quality shows since NXT went too hard in that direction and countless title matches for early shows.

All the gains NXT made in recent weeks with the key demo group pretty much are gone and AEW starting to regain their big advantage in that group.

[slik]

That's crazy

A good number of viewers for both shows, but damn @ NXT demographic tanking, that actually surprises me.

[Emperor Smeat]

Outside of a few weeks since the Wednesday Night War stared, NXT pretty much has been carried heavily by WWE's older tv audience which completely goes against Triple H's claims about the brand and the idea of NXT helping build WWE's future audience.

Even NXT's turn around in fortunes in terms of competitiveness was more due to WWE having to give it main show and roster exposure and not because of the brand's own doing. Also the idea of DVR hurting AEW way more in terms of younger viewers based on Meltzer's and others data.

NXT probably will top AEW again once the Rumble nears because of the rumors of their involvement with the event but that would just prove once again that NXT needs WWE's main shows for major ratings boosts and interest.

[#1-norm-fan]

Haven’t been paying much attention but I remember NXT finally winning the ratings war and people seemed to think the shine had worn off and AEW had officially fallen behind for good. What happened to change that?

[Mr. Nerfect]

Haven’t been paying much attention but I remember NXT finally winning the ratings war and people seemed to think the shine had worn off and AEW had officially fallen behind for good. What happened to change that?

NXT had a couple of dry weeks. They technically aired programming, but one was a taped show and another was a year recap sort of thing. AEW virtually went unopposed and they're riding that momentum. When NXT gets back into the swing of things, they'll beat AEW again.

[slik]

2.51 average for SD


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[Mr. Nerfect]

That's a pretty decent number for them.

[slik]

Most Watched on YT:


Roman/Usos promo - 631k
Morrison on Miz TV - 549k
Usos vs. Corbin/Ziggler - 375k

[slik]

Ratings for the last week:

SD - 2.51
RAW - 2.39
AEW - 947k
NXT - 712k
Backstage - 124k

[Emperor Smeat]

NXT had a couple of dry weeks. They technically aired programming, but one was a taped show and another was a year recap sort of thing. AEW virtually went unopposed and they're riding that momentum. When NXT gets back into the swing of things, they'll beat AEW again.

And NXT will likely need help or a boost from the main roster shows in order for that to happen again going by the last time. Same for them likely squandering the momentum after a few weeks in terms of the key demo stuff.

And then the cycle will repeat for every major WWE show with likely exceptions here and there during the year.

NXT has the same exact problem as RAW and Smackdown in regards to the viewership being propped up way too much by WWE's older core audience. Until that drastically changes, NXT is going to struggle to maintain any long term momentum against AEW.

Meanwhile AEW's biggest problem right now is their audience is still too volatile and swings too much in either direction almost on a weekly basis. That's due to their younger audience not really settling in yet unlike NXT.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Lol, NXT will turn this around in a few weeks. Good booking and consistency will get them there. They've lost their momentum because they took the time off and did some lazy stuff around Christmas, so people are checking out AEW. NXT had them knocked about like crazy every week except one after they got the main roster rub.

[Emperor Smeat]

RAW got hammered badly by the College football title game between Clemson and LSU.

Down by around 355k viewers compared to last week, down by around .13 in terms of the key demo (0.74 to 0.61), and down big in terms of rankings from #1-3 to #9, #10, and #13 this week.

8PM - 2,218,000
9PM - 2,059,000
10PM - 1,814,000

Average - 2,030,000

[slik]

Nothing on YT has cracked a million views, AGAIN, the following day.█

This is a curious trend.

Most watched (so far):

Brock/R-Truth - 919k
Show/KO/Joe vs Seth/AOP - 808k
Orton vs Drew vs AJ - 436k

[Emperor Smeat]

Tuesday's episode of WWE Backstage didn't rank in the Top 150 shows according to Showbuzz Daily.

Means the show did less than a 0.4 in the key demo and potentially less than 100k viewers.

Last week's episode did 124k viewers, #145 ranking, and a 0.4 in the key demo.

[Emperor Smeat]

Results for last night's AEW and NXT episodes:

AEW got 940k viewers, #5 ranking, and a 0.38 in the key demo ranking.

NXT got 700k viewers, #31 ranking, and a 0.21 in the key demo ranking.

Seems AEW's audience might be starting to settle in since that's the 3rd week in a row its been in the upper 900k and NXT finally managed to get their key demo rating back to the 0.20s since the Christmas week episode.

[Emperor Smeat]

Tuesday's episode of WWE Backstage didn't rank in the Top 150 shows according to Showbuzz Daily.

Means the show did less than a 0.4 in the key demo and potentially less than 100k viewers.

Last week's episode did 124k viewers, #145 ranking, and a 0.4 in the key demo.

Turns out it did 84k viewers and a 0.3 in the key demo.

Per Showbuzz Daily, the January 14th episode of WWE Backstage on FS1 drew 84,000 viewers which is down from last week’s 124,000. The Usos, Xavier Woods and Ember Moon all appeared on the show and next week, CM Punk is making his return to WWE Backstage just one week out from the Royal Rumble pay-per-view.

[slik]

SD:


Hr 1 - 2.62
Hr 2 - 2.54

Avg - 2.58 million


Most Watched on YT:
DBry/Kane/Fiend - 762k
Otis/Mandy - 564
Big E/Morrison - 524k
Roman/Roode - 420k

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[SlickyTrickyDamon]

CBS Reruns got better ratings than ABC and NBC airing new stuff.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Say what you want about the quality of WWE, but those ratings are...well, not great, but at that acceptable level.

[slik]

As long as the SD demo stays in that green color-coded area consistently I think FOX will be fine w/ things honestly.

[Emperor Smeat]

Pretty much that and staying within the 2.5 million range for viewers since that was FOX's minimum to stay happy with the crazy amount of money they spent on SD.

FOX likely is going to lose a ton of money from this tv deal due to SD not constantly being in the 1.0 range for the key demo nor in the 3-4 million range for viewers but they gave up on those lofty goals just a couple of weeks into the new deal.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Fox was airing reruns for the most part on Fridays anyways. We will see if the Road to WrestleMania bumps the ratings a little bit. Fox starting at WWE's weaker story period could have played a role in that.

[slik]

Ratings will be out Wed due to MLK day


YT optics still down and under a million for everything the day after....again...a very odd trend for WWE


Most Watched on YT:

Liv/Rusev vs Lana/Lashley - 825k
Seth welcomes Buddy - 550k
Brock attacks Ricochet - 420k

[Sepholio]

I'm wondering if their videos just aren't being featured or displayed as much for some reason. I've noticed a lot less visibility from them on both facebook and YT. There has to be some other factor, the drop was way too big and too fast.

[Emperor Smeat]

Probably people starting to realize why bother watching or getting quickly caught up with what happened on RAW. Also Smackdown arguably did a better job with the Rumble build than RAW despite personally not being that interested in their matches for the show.

Like the Lana/Rusev storyline was only very popular online due to the train wreck quality of the storyline and not something that was actually well written or would entice people to stick around for the long term. Same for RAW's other big storylines lacking that hook to keep people interested after a while.

[Droford]

It'll be interesting to see if NXT is able to take advantage of AEW being partially taped this week

[slik]

Isn't there a big nba debut this week that could hurt both on wednesday, some new player super hyped by b-ball media?

[Emperor Smeat]

In terms of live viewers, ESPN's NBA pre-show might do some damage but only the last 30 minutes of NXT and Dynamite are going head-to-head with the Spurs vs. Pelicans game. NXT's over-run might also suffer but that usually skews a lot more towards older viewers.

AEW and NXT's tape delay on the West Coast likely are going to get hit hard though. Those airings are going up against the bulk of the Pelicans game and any post-show stuff.

[slik]

RAW

Hr 1 - 2.55
Hr 2 - 2.49
Hr 3 - 2.10

Avg - 2.38
credit - showbuzzdaily

[Sepholio]

Those are damn near the same numbers as a couple weeks ago.

[Emperor Smeat]

Considering the Rumble go-home show is usually one of the higher viewed shows in the year, not a good sign for this year's Road to Mania if it still couldn't get back a good chunk of viewers lost from this past football season.

On the bright side, it managed to beat out both the Cs-Lakers game and its never explained blood rival Love & Hip Hop in terms of rankings. The Cs-Lakers game turning into a blowout also likely helped RAW out a lot.

[Emperor Smeat]

Tuesday's episode of WWE Backstage with Punk's return did 111k viewers, #141 ranking, and a 0.6 in the key demo.

Last week's episode wasn't ranked but it did 84k viewers and a 0.3 in the key demo.

[Bad News Gertner]

I bet my headline drove tons of traffic to the site


You're welcome Triple A

[slik]

SD


Hr 1 - 2.55
Hr 2 - 2.39

Avg - 2.47


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[slik]

Most Watched on YT:

Fiend/DBry contract signing - 636k
Kofi vs Morrison - 294k
Braun/Elias vs Shinsuke/Cesaro - 248k

[Droford]

Seems to me everyone in the WWE universe goes to bed at 10pm

[Emperor Smeat]

RAW's post-PPV bump (22k) ended up being one of the smallest in years for a post-Rumble show and post-major WWE event.

In terms of the good stuff, RAW took the top 3 spots for rankings and the last two hours were higher than last week's show.

In terms of the bad stuff, this year's post-Rumble show was around 300k lower than last year's show and the first hour was slightly lower than last week. Also had a lower key demo rating than last week.

8PM - 2,541,000
9PM - 2,441,000
10PM - 2,224,000

Overall - 2,402,000

[Triple A]

Viewers for the post-Royal Rumble Raw for the past 10 years...

2011: 5.28 million
2012: 5.22 million
2013: 5.02 million
2014: 4.71 million
2015: 4.42 million
2016: 4.10 million
2017: 3.62 million
2018: 3.40 million
2019: 2.71 million
2020: 2.40 million

[Emperor Smeat]

Assuming it has a similar drop next year, within 5 years RAW would have halved their audience and its all due to how badly WWE botched the transition from the Cena era to the Reigns era and handling of NXT call-ups.

For some reference, within the same time period NFL managed to stay relatively even to where it was five years ago despite the growing trend with cord cutters. Similar to WWE, NFL also had a period where they had the view of nobody could be bigger than "The Shield" or brand but then stopped that mentality once it started to really hurt the ratings.

[slik]

Most Watched on YT:

Orton attacks Edge - 2 million
Drew chooses Brock - 775k
Lana vs Liv - 505k

[Mr. Nerfect]

That’s a fine number for where they’re at. I don’t think anyone really expected them to them to get over 3 million or anything.

[Emperor Smeat]

Tuesday's episode of WWE Backstage did 97k viewers, #137 ranking, and a 0.4 in the key demo.

Last week's episode did 11k viewers, #141 ranking, and a 0.6 in the key demo.

[Emperor Smeat]

Results for last night's AEW and NXT episodes:

AEW got 828k viewers, #3 ranking, and a 0.34 in the key demo ranking.

NXT got 712k viewers, #37 ranking, and a 0.22 in the key demo ranking.

AEW won every demographic except the 50+.

Old people down by a sizeable amount pretty much was the reason for AEW's drop this week while NXT suffered from young women being down by a lot.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I predicted NXT would be a lot closer than they were, but it was a pretty cold show.

[slik]

SD 2.42

[slik]

RAW tumbled this week


Hr 1 - 2.32
Hr 2 - 2.16
Hr 3 - 2.02

Avg - 2.16 million


Most Watched On YT:

Brock attacks Ricochet - 826k
Orton promo - 526k
Rey saves Humberto - 498k

YT views seem 'low' again for next day....maybe people overseas are not clicking as much, IDK

[Emperor Smeat]

Pretty terrible for a Road to Mania number especially since there was no major sports competition. Only real competition was the Iowa Caucus election stuff but that did poorly in the demos except for old people compared to RAW.

[Emperor Smeat]

Tuesday's episode of WWE Backstage did 97k viewers, #145 ranking, and a 0.5 in the key demo.

Last week's episode did 97k viewers, #137 ranking, and a 0.4 in the key demo.

[Emperor Smeat]

Results for last night's AEW and NXT episodes:

AEW got 928k viewers, #11 ranking, and a 0.36 in the key demo ranking.

NXT got 770k viewers, #34 ranking, and a 0.22 in the key demo ranking.

AEW won every demographic except the 50+.

Basically Charlotte provided a 58k boost to NXT but she barely moved the needle for key demos especially with women. AEW's gains was mainly due to the rebound from their older demo group but took a notable hit with their rankings mainly due to the Impeachment stuff.

[slik]

Goldberg = Ratings

2.55 million average, slightly up


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[Seanny One Ball]

Dynasty pulling in those big numbers

[Droford]

SD had higher ratings both hours than Raw the last two weeks

[slik]

Hr 1 - 2.41
Hr 2 - 2.40
Hr 3 - 2.20

Avg - 2.33 million
credit - showbuzzdaily


Most Watched on YT:
Orton attacks Matt Hardy - 686k
Drew/MVP - 599k
Shayna bites Becky - 458k


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[Emperor Smeat]

First time in a long while RAW's 2nd hour was bigger than the 1st hour.

According to Meltzer, peak viewership happened during the Angel Garza match meaning WWE's gamble on pushing him as their new top Latino star might be working now.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Angel Garza seems like a much better choice than Humberto Carrillo.

[Emperor Smeat]

Only problem is WWE has done this song and dance plenty of times before when it comes to finding the next Rey Mysterio for the company.

Wouldn't be surprised if they eventually change their mind and go with whichever big name Latino star they end up signing next. They also have El Hijo del Fantasma (King Cuerno in LU) stashed away in the PC and supposedly he's returning soon from injury.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Angel Garza's a good looking guy and seems to instantly connect. Andrade is in the same boat, but he's a heel and he's got the hot chick. I kind of hope that is the WrestleMania US Title match.

But you're never going to get your next Rey Mysterio. You've got Rey Mysterio. Just be content with that and bring along the guys with talent as best you can.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Did Del Rio ever mean anything to ratings or the like? He was also presented as a heel out the gate, but he had face runs that I don't remember meaning anything to the figures.

[Emperor Smeat]

Not sure since by the time he arrived, Smackdown wasn't on UPN anymore. That channel played a big role in Eddie Guerrero's rise as a big star and Rey Myetsrio cementing himself as WWE's top Hispanic star.

Also WWE pretty much botched his big face run so he wasn't going to succeed as a ratings draw even had it lasted longer than it did. Even if it wasn't botched, he'd still run into the big problem of Vince cutting the legs out of anyone who was getting too close to star status to Cena.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Eddie and Rey were two stars who happened to be Latino. Everyone else WWE has tried has been pushed as a Latino star. It comes off as forced and hokey.

[Mr. Nerfect]

It surprises me that Raw is the platform they're choosing to try and get these Hispanic guys over.

[Evil Vito]

I remember during the whole original brand split there was an enormous push to always have a Hispanic star on SmackDown because the TV deals in Mexico were much better for SmackDown instead of Raw.

Now they've got FOX Deportes airing the show for Spanish viewers but the only representation is Lucha House Party who are seldom used. It's odd.

[#1-norm-fan]

“Angel Garza” sounds SO much like a mid 90s WCW cruiserweight.

[Evil Vito]

My brain keeps defaulting to Hector Garza.

[slik]

AEW 817k
NXT 757k


AEW really deserves to do better than this, they've been putting on killer shows since 2020 started.

[Emperor Smeat]

Based on the demo stuff, AEW biggest drop was where it mattered the most while NXT's biggest drop was with older viewers but didn't wreck their numbers as much.

Also NXT had a pretty sizable boost from female viewers this week compared to last week when the opposite probably should have happened because of Charlotte's appearance.

[slik]

I'm a bit surprised to see AEW fluctuate between the 800 and 900s so often.

They've really been on a roll this year.

[Mr. Nerfect]

AEW 817k
NXT 757k


AEW really deserves to do better than this, they've been putting on killer shows since 2020 started.

They did one good show the week before the boat, but then they did the boat and the one after that was borderline unwatchable. They had MJF paying off The Bunny on camera to cheesy music. Wtf? That's TNA type stuff.

Not surprised at the drop, but not surprised that they beat NXT, who have been cold as ice recently.

[Emperor Smeat]

I'm a bit surprised to see AEW fluctuate between the 800 and 900s so often.

They've really been on a roll this year.

They've done a good job settling in and fixing issues after the initial experience of dealing with producing weekly shows. Think coming in, only the Young Bucks had any real experience when it came to booking shows and working in production.

That seems to be their core range now while NXT has been hovering around the 700ks for the majority of the past 3 months.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Until they decide to boost it with major name talent again. They haven't run that horse thin yet.

[slik]

SD:

Hr 1 -2.52
Hr 2 - 2.44

Avg - 2.48
credit - showbuzzdaily


Most Watched On YT:
Dolph ruins Otis's date - 366k
Roman/DBry vs Miz/Morrison - 343k
Bray creeps out Hulk Hogan - 322k

[Emperor Smeat]

Bit surprised the Hogan video was that low for views. The Otis one probably could have done better had WWE let the whole date thing play out more before Ziggy showed up.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I haven't really been following the trends, but I wouldn't be surprised if Bray Wyatt is a ratings loser. That guy is lame as hell.

[Emperor Smeat]

Need to check to make sure but his segment usually do well and his segment last week with Goldberg was the highest of the show.

In terms of the bigger metric, he's been the company's highest merch seller for months now.

[Emperor Smeat]

This week's episode of RAW ended up being higher by around 100k compared to last week but also came close to hitting a sub 2-million number for the 3rd hour.

In terms of rankings, it took the #1, #2, and #4 spot. 90 Day Fiance took the #3 spot while blood rival Love & Hip Hop took the #5 spot.

8PM - 2,671,000
9PM - 2,559,000
10PM - 2,082,000

[slik]

2.44 avg ratings ^

Most Watched on YT:

Orton attacks Matt - 1 million
McIntyre vs MVP - 991k
KO/Vikings vs Murphy/AOP - 853k

[slik]

AEW - 893k
NXT - 794k

[Emperor Smeat]

Seems the main reason for both increases was due to teenagers since that group went up the most for both shows. NXT did better with female teenagers and young adults while AEW did better with male teenagers and young adults.

Meltzer thinks the numbers probably would have been closer due to the Democratic debates hurting NXT's old demo the most despite that group went up and not down this week. Probably felt they would have been in the .40 range if it wasn't for the debates.

[slik]

2.49 average for SD this week


https://i.postimg.cc/5ycpqCws/Fast-Demo-2020-Feb-21-FRI.png


Most Watched on YT:

Goldberg spears Fiend - 1 million
Musical Instruments match - 508k
Tucker confronts Mandy - 306k

[Mr. Nerfect]

Goldberg’s been pretty good for those ratings.

[slik]

It makes a legit case for him to beat The Fiend tbh

[Mr. Nerfect]

I’m totally in favor of that. Goldberg vs. Cena for the belt and Bray Wyatt vs. Roman Reigns in a personal issue. Goldberg and Wyatt can win and Roman can turn heel coming out of it.

[slik]

RAW down from last week's 2.44

Hr 1 - 2.25
Hr 2 - 2.28
Hr 3 - 2.11

avg - 2.21 million
(credit showbuzzdaily)


CNN Townhall only did 1.2 million viewers so they really had zero competition last night. Good news is they topped demos for the night. YT optics still down.


Most Watched on YT:
KO puts ref thru table - 740k
Contract Signing - 519k
KO interrupts Orton - 500k

[Emperor Smeat]

2nd hour going up is interesting considering it wasn't anything special and arguably the least interesting of the three hours.

Also probably didn't help last week was a somewhat dull show and this week was about the same. The build for the Saudi show has done more to hurt than help especially with it interrupting the build for the Chamber.

[Emperor Smeat]

Apparently last night's episode of WWE Backstage didn't crack the Top 150 for shows although Showbuzz Daily hinted there might have been an issue with their listing since something else was listed to have aired instead.

2nd time that has happened since Backstage's official launch in regards to not cracking the Top 150 and not because of a potential listing issue.

[Emperor Smeat]

Results for last night's AEW and NXT episodes:

AEW got 865k viewers, #9 ranking, and a 0.30 in the key demo ranking.

NXT got 717k viewers, #17 ranking, and a 0.23 in the key demo ranking.

The biggest surprise was AEW actually beat NXT in the 50+ demo for the first time ever and NXT got hammered badly in the teenager & young adult female demos compared to last week where that was the key area of their viewership increase.

NXT's over-run number should be interesting when its revealed later since TNT and AEW countered it this week with the Countdown to AEW tv special.

[Emperor Smeat]

Apparently AEW had a double win of sorts over WWE last night.

Their Countdown special also beat last night's episode of Miz & Mrs. in terms of ranking and key demo rating but lost out on viewers by just 11k.

[slik]

AEW beating NXT for the first time in all demos is interesting.

[Emperor Smeat]

Friday's episode of SmackDown ended up being the highest of the year and third highest since the move to FOX.

8PM - 2,736,000
9PM - 2,697,000

Average - 2,717,000

Also took the #1 ranking for the key demographic rating although it only went up by 0.1 points compared to last week.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Let the smark tears flow.

[slik]

Cena helping improve ratings with his visit.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Goldberg exposing that there is a major disconnect between wrestling fans that will go to wrestling shows and try to get their collective views across, and people who want to follow this shit.

[BigCrippyZ]

Let the smark tears flow.

I don’t think anyone cares that Cena got SD a good number. Except WWE and Fox of course.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I don’t think anyone cares that Cena got SD a good number. Except WWE and Fox of course.

People have been whinging about Bray Wyatt being beaten by Goldberg. Oh, they care. :lol:

[BigCrippyZ]

Oh, I thought you were talking about Cena getting SD a higher than usual rating.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Nah, I’m talking about the success of Goldberg and part-timers getting fans’ panties in a bunch.

[Emperor Smeat]

Results for last night's AEW and NXT episodes:

AEW got 865k viewers, #9 ranking, and a 0.30 in the key demo ranking.

NXT got 717k viewers, #17 ranking, and a 0.23 in the key demo ranking.

The biggest surprise was AEW actually beat NXT in the 50+ demo for the first time ever and NXT got hammered badly in the teenager & young adult female demos compared to last week where that was the key area of their viewership increase.

NXT's over-run number should be interesting when its revealed later since TNT and AEW countered it this week with the Countdown to AEW tv special.

According to an update from the Observer, AEW's weigh-in segment beat NXT's Bianca vs. Flair match in terms of head-to-head viewership for the main event. The over-run wasn't hurt by the Countdown special and instead was one of the largest ever at 225k.

What really hurt was after NXT ended, pretty much that entire over-run group switched back to the Countdown special and wrecked Miz & Mrs viewership as a result.

[Emperor Smeat]

RAW's go-home show for the Elimination Chamber ended up being higher compared to last week although the increase itself was somewhat tiny.

Monday’s Raw drew an average of 2,257,000 viewers on USA Network, up from last week’s 2,210,000 viewers.

Raw was #1, #2 and #3 on cable for the day with a 0.74 average rating in the 18-49 demographic, up from last week’s 0.71 rating.

This time last year, the March 4, 2019 Raw drew 2,783,000 viewers. The March 5, 2018 Raw drew 3,099,000 viewers.

Hourly breakdown:

8PM: 2,358,000
9PM: 2,297,000
10PM: 2,115,000

[slik]

2.25 avg for RAW seems low in Mania season

SD will top that number this week for sure.

[Emperor Smeat]

Yeah. So far this year's Road to Mania had the 2nd lowest and 3rd lowest RAW for non-holiday or sports week and there is still a month left to go to add to that list.

Last year's Road to Mania felt better mainly because it had 2 very hot stories going on despite WWE's efforts to mess it up.

[Emperor Smeat]

Tuesday's episode of Backstage didn't rank in the Top 150 shows for the 2nd week in a row.

3rd time its happened this year and 2nd time a back-to-back non-ranking has happened in series history.

Lowest ranked show for the night did a 0.4 in the key demo meaning Backstage likely did less than that and potentially less than 104k viewers.

[Emperor Smeat]

Results for last night's AEW and NXT episodes:

AEW got 906k viewers

NXT got 718k viewers

Breakdowns and other details haven't been released yet but should be very soon.

Biggest takeaway just from the viewership was AEW got a nice post-ppv bump from Revolution while NXT's plans to load up their show with 2 cage matches didn't really pay off for them in the end.


Edit: AEW got a #5 ranking and 0.35 rating in the key demo while NXT got a #20 ranking and 0.23 rating in the key demo.

[Emperor Smeat]

Tuesday's episode of Backstage didn't rank in the Top 150 shows for the 2nd week in a row.

3rd time its happened this year and 2nd time a back-to-back non-ranking has happened in series history.

Lowest ranked show for the night did a 0.4 in the key demo meaning Backstage likely did less than that and potentially less than 104k viewers.

Apparently it drew 18k viewers and a new series low at least in regards to known numbers.

Even in terms of the key demo, it was a disaster at a 0.1 rating.

[slik]

2.45 average for SD, tops the week

https://i.postimg.cc/ryjMrZgd/Fast-Demo-2020-Mar-06-FRI.png

[slik]

Most Watched on YT:

Braun/nWo - 388k
Tag Team Gauntlet - 295k
Firefly Funhouse - 288k

[Emperor Smeat]

Edit: Nevermind, the numbers got mixed up on the Frontpage:

8PM - 2,157,000
9PM - 2,222,000
10PM - 2,109,000

Average - 2,163,000

[slik]

Austin should give it a slight bump next week

[Mr. Nerfect]

When did they do Extreme Rules?

[Emperor Smeat]

3rd week in a row Backstage didn't rank in the Top 150.

Likely means it did less than a 0.4 rating and less than 101k viewers as well since that was the lowest ranked for each.

Edit: According to PWI, last night's episode drew 35k viewers

[slik]

Coronavirus tanking both shows...

AEW - 766k
NXT - 697k

https://i.postimg.cc/MK77C6ws/Screenshot-2020-03-12-at-3-18-21-PM.png

[Emperor Smeat]

Results for last night's AEW and NXT episodes:

AEW got 766k viewers, #25 ranking, and a 0.26 rating in the key demo

NXT got 697k viewers, a #42 ranking, and a 0.21 rating in the key demo.

Both shows got hit hard by the sports and news coverage over the coronavirus with AEW taking the bigger hit numbers wise. Just two shows in the Top 15 were not news and/or sports related and only one did less than what AEW generated for viewers.

50+ demo was the only group that was almost the same as last week for both shows.

[slik]

I have a feeling it will hurt SD too and RAW as well in the ratings if this all keeps up.

[Emperor Smeat]

Yeah probably will for at least the next few weeks considering how fast things have moved elsewhere in sports and entertainment.

Although with the lack of sports competition for the time being, it could also be somewhat beneficial as well.

AEW and NXT might be able to get by with next week's shows if they just air the dark matches that were taped recently and work on some pre-produced segments that wouldn't need a crowd or even an arena for it. After that it starts to get tougher for AEW and less so for NXT since they have the PC.

[Mr. Nerfect]

NXT retained 97.1% of their audience.

[slik]

The age of the average NXT viewer is most susceptible to coronavirus - so that is unfortunate.

I applaud AEW's traditional viewing block for showing concern and interest in the pandemic while still pulling off a ratings victory.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

NXT retained 97.1% of their audience.

And they still lost

[Bad News Gertner]

Wow, AEW might not make it to the summer at this rate

[slik]

SD dropped from Cena's last visit amongst CoronaMania

Hr 1 - 2.67
Hr 2 - 2.50

avg - 2.58 million viewers
(credit - showbuzzdaily)


https://i.postimg.cc/85Rr1f5z/Fast-Demo-2020-Mar-13-FRI.png


Most Watched on YT:
Cena/Wyatt - 759k
Hardy/Corbin - 632k
HHH opens SD - 303k

[Sepholio]

Kinda surprised it didn't have more views considering the lack of sports. Not gerd. Not gerd at all.

[Emperor Smeat]

Yeah.

The numbers were up compared to last week but within the 2.4 to 2.5 million range they had been doing this year so far baring the Cena return one.

So they didn't really take advantage of the lack of sports but then again still had to deal with their usual competition for Friday. Monday will probably be different since that usually has less stiff competition for non-sports.