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AEW - 826k
NXT - 651k
lower than I thought it would be for both
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weather vane
10-15-2020, 05:44 PM
AEW just killing WWE. Jesus. Wild times.
Bad News Gertner
10-15-2020, 06:24 PM
Lol 1 year anniversary and they've lost half their audience while struggling to beat WWE Developmental. Plan the parade.
SlickyTrickyDamon
10-15-2020, 07:07 PM
AEW just killing WWE. Jesus. Wild times.
Are you mentally challenged? Raw and Smackdown beat AEW every week. AEW is ranking 15th in cable and you call it a win?
weather vane
10-15-2020, 11:35 PM
Smoked em. Baddddd.
xrodmuc316
10-16-2020, 12:58 AM
Lol 1 year anniversary and they've lost half their audience while struggling to beat WWE Developmental. Plan the parade.
BUT ONLY THE DEMOS MATTER!!!!!!!!
Also, how did AEW gain 75,000 viewers but lose 30,000 in the demos???
Jericho needs a new shirt, The "JUST KIDDING TOTAL VIEWERS ACTUALLY MATTER TOO GOD".
NXT gained 10,000 in the demos from last week too :eek::eek::eek::wave:
xrodmuc316
10-16-2020, 01:00 AM
AEW just killing WWE. Jesus. Wild times.
Just imagine how good AEW would be doing if NXT didn't decide in 2014 to have their show on Wednesday Nights every week??? :rofl:
But yeah, they took AEW's "Spot" :yes:
weather vane
10-16-2020, 01:47 AM
Lolllllllllllllllll
A mercy move to Tuesdays could happen soon enough if NXT doesn't improve those numbers.
Sepholio
10-16-2020, 05:25 AM
tbh I think if NXT wasn't WWE's third weekly show it would be doing much better against AEW. WWE is saturating the market, even if it is technically a different product. AEW is the one thing non WWE people can watch to change it up.
I hardly ever watch NXT. After RAW and knowing I will prob watch some of SD as well I tend to want something a bit different on Wednesday, not just more of the same.
xrodmuc316
10-16-2020, 08:53 PM
A mercy move to Tuesdays could happen soon enough if NXT doesn't improve those numbers.
What are you talking about? NXT is the only show that GAINED in the demo from last week's number. Maybe AEW should move to Tuesday's by that logic.
Or maybe the 0.175 difference in the ratings isn't really a big difference like the "panic that NXT should move" narrative pretends it to be.
weather vane
10-16-2020, 10:19 PM
A mercy move to Tuesdays could happen soon enough if NXT doesn't improve those numbers.
Yeah they would be crazy not to. How long can you keep getting killed like this?
SlickyTrickyDamon
10-17-2020, 12:16 AM
A mercy move to Tuesdays could happen soon enough if NXT doesn't improve those numbers.
They are happy with staying on Weds and giving AEW consistently average ratings. NXT isn't supposed to be winning ratings as they are the WWE's third brand. That NXT won any days at all is a major failure to AEW's only show.
AEW would only improve from NXT's moving to Tuesday and I don't think NXT would improve enough to justify the move.
Yeah they would be crazy not to. How long can you keep getting killed like this?
Considering how much USA pays for NXT it'd probably be in their best interest to just cancel it altogether.
Just put some reruns of SUV or something on Wednesdays.
screech
10-17-2020, 11:25 AM
Would prefer NXT and AEW on different days, tbh. In the era of DVR and next-day replays, ratings wars are kinda pointless.
xrodmuc316
10-17-2020, 11:53 AM
Considering how much USA pays for NXT it'd probably be in their best interest to just cancel it altogether.
Just put some reruns of SUV or something on Wednesdays.
TNT pays for production and splits advertisement revenue with AEW, and they have no big advertisers. They had Cracker Barrel for one PPV over a year ago. It would probably be in their best interest to just cancel it altogether.
Just put some reruns of Falling Skies or something on Wednesdays.
xrodmuc316
10-17-2020, 11:57 AM
Yeah they would be crazy not to. How long can you keep getting killed like this?
Getting killed would be more than a 175,000 people difference, but ok lol
1.987 for brand blue this week
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Bad News Gertner
10-17-2020, 03:58 PM
TNT pays for production and splits advertisement revenue with AEW, and they have no big advertisers. They had Cracker Barrel for one PPV over a year ago. It would probably be in their best interest to just cancel it altogether.
Just put some reruns of Falling Skies or something on Wednesdays.
It's not even comparable between the two. AEW has Cracker Barrell and dick pills
#1-norm-fan
10-17-2020, 05:25 PM
1.987 for brand blue this week
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The war between WWE and Greatest #AtHome Videos heating up!
xrodmuc316
10-17-2020, 06:37 PM
It's not even comparable between the two. AEW has Cracker Barrell and dick pills
Lol, exactly. That along with all the bragging the wrestlers are doing about how they have the biggest contract of their whole careers, they are certainly not raking in profits based on getting a .175 higher rating than NXT.
FOX probably going to have to pull the plug on SD soon and air reruns of 9-1-1 on Friday.
Can't even crack 2 mil on the season premiere, very embarrassing!!
#1-norm-fan
10-17-2020, 09:20 PM
YouTube videos of nobodies sitting at home trying to make wacky content drawing more viewers than the content WWE is putting out. INCREDIBLY embarrassing.
#1-norm-fan
10-17-2020, 09:35 PM
Vince has gone from battling billionaire Ted Turner to battling soccer moms showing off home videos of their kids.
How the mighty have fallen.
xrodmuc316
10-17-2020, 10:20 PM
FOX probably going to have to pull the plug on SD soon and air reruns of 9-1-1 on Friday.
Can't even crack 2 mil on the season premiere, very embarrassing!!
9-1-1 Lone Star is where it's at. Although it is far less about the dispatchers than the original, I think it is the better version of the 2.
Bad News Gertner
10-18-2020, 09:33 PM
Lol my god do Fulham supporters HATE Tony Khan after reading Tony's twitter
1.77 million for RAW this week
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xrodmuc316
10-20-2020, 07:22 PM
1.77 million for RAW this week
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Raw KILLING AEW in the demos!
Droford
10-20-2020, 07:25 PM
Would prefer NXT and AEW on different days, tbh. In the era of DVR and next-day replays, ratings wars are kinda pointless.
I tape nxt but I sometimes wonder why I bother and not just wait til its up on the network without commercials
weather vane
10-22-2020, 05:45 AM
Gonna be an absolute shit kicking again tomorrow. God. Close this thread please. It’s embarrassing.
#1-norm-fan
10-22-2020, 10:34 AM
Do the Jaguars play on Monday Night Football this season?
Would hate to see the Khans kick Vince’s ass head-to-head TWO nights in a row.
Bad News Gertner
10-22-2020, 05:38 PM
AEW 753,000
NXT 644,000
looks like both shows got the shit kicked out of them by the World Series, which had over 9 million viewers
or
wrestling is dying
Bad News Gertner
10-22-2020, 05:48 PM
Such a terrible excuse. There's ALWAYS something else on. That number has been the same for over a year now.
That's what happens when you cater to your niche audience.
the niche audience is the only audience left tho in 2020
no company tries to get new fans at all, anywhere
Bad News Gertner
10-22-2020, 06:11 PM
But it's not though or else they'd be drawing what Raw and Smackdown does. They draw a third of that.
i think what raw and sd has are niche audiences too tho, that's why it's down to 2 mil and less
we r in the niche of a niche era
the nicher boy cody rhodes
Bad News Gertner
10-22-2020, 06:23 PM
Hahaha
Jordan
10-23-2020, 10:55 AM
But it's not though or else they'd be drawing what Raw and Smackdown does. They draw a third of that.
STOCKHOLM SYNDROME
xrodmuc316
10-23-2020, 03:02 PM
Wait, I thought 300,000 people in the demo was lighting the world on fire????
Jericho told me it's all that matters!
881k for SD on FS1
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#1-norm-fan
10-26-2020, 08:57 PM
AEW beats SMACKDOWN in the key demo this week. WOW
Total viewers not far behind at all. Vince can’t be happy!
weather vane
10-27-2020, 05:19 AM
Oh Jesus. Call the fight. AEW in 10 years will have a monopoly. RIP WWF.
Droford
10-27-2020, 05:45 AM
The WWF has been dead almost 20 years
Droford
10-27-2020, 05:47 AM
Do the Jaguars play on Monday Night Football this season?
Would hate to see the Khans kick Vince’s ass head-to-head TWO nights in a row.
The nfl isn't stupid to put jags on in prime time more than once and they played Thursday night about a month ago
weather vane
10-27-2020, 04:01 PM
The WWF has been dead almost 20 years
I meant WWWF.
Big Vic
10-27-2020, 04:38 PM
The nfl isn't stupid to put jags on in prime time more than once and they played Thursday night about a month ago
Most Thursday night games suck on paper.
1.732 million for RAW
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Halloween Havoc gave NXT a nice bump
NXT - 876k
AEW - 781k
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xrodmuc316
10-29-2020, 06:24 PM
Halloween Havoc gave NXT a nice bump
NXT - 876k
AEW - 781k
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Bad News Gertner
10-29-2020, 06:27 PM
ELLE OH ELLE!
Bad News Gertner
10-29-2020, 08:09 PM
Lol maybe AEW should take on 205 Live since they can't beat WWE Developmental
xrodmuc316
10-29-2020, 08:13 PM
Lol maybe AEW should take on 205 Live since they can't beat WWE Developmental
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:yes:
#1-norm-fan
10-29-2020, 09:47 PM
They still won the demo, genius. Once again xrod fails miserably at a “gotcha”.
#1-norm-fan
10-29-2020, 10:01 PM
Congrats to WCW, a company that died 20 years ago, for giving WWE a bump though. Hopefully WCW legend Goldberg can do the same for the main roster.
xrodmuc316
10-30-2020, 01:03 AM
They still won the demo, genius. Once again xrod fails miserably at a “gotcha”.
SMH for fuck's sake...
I am aware of that genius. The mocking is of them acting like they didn't lose when they did.
AEW wins by 100,000 viewers = NXT should just move nights, they lost!
NXT wins by 100,000 viewers = BUT MUH DEEEEEEEMOOOOOOSSSSSS!
Hence the pic genius.
Learn to comprehend stuff you genius, genius!
weather vane
10-30-2020, 04:13 AM
WWF back. What a war. I like it.
Droford
10-30-2020, 04:51 AM
This shows stupid shit like making the show Halloween Havoc and then dumping stupid gimmicks into it works for moron wrestling fans because actual wrestling wise I'd take AEWs show from Wednesday 100 times out of 100
#1-norm-fan
10-30-2020, 12:04 PM
SMH for fuck's sake...
I am aware of that genius. The mocking is of them acting like they didn't lose when they did.
AEW wins by 100,000 viewers = NXT should just move nights, they lost!
NXT wins by 100,000 viewers = BUT MUH DEEEEEEEMOOOOOOSSSSSS!
Hence the pic genius.
Learn to comprehend stuff you genius, genius!
Hey! Thanks for “choosing to view my post”!
And THAT’S how you execute a proper “gotcha”, bitch.
Damian Rey 2.0
10-30-2020, 01:09 PM
Fan remains the top star of the forum. Excellent work.
xrodmuc316
10-30-2020, 08:13 PM
Hey! Thanks for “choosing to view my post”!
And THAT’S how you execute a proper “gotcha”, bitch.
Yeah, figured I'd check it out because you would have misunderstood the point of the joke and write something dumb. You did not disappoint :rofl:
screech
10-30-2020, 08:41 PM
Fan remains the top star of the forum. Excellent work.
It's almost unfair because xrod is a fucking idiot lol
#1-norm-fan
10-30-2020, 10:45 PM
ALMOST?
#1-norm-fan
10-30-2020, 10:51 PM
I loved the explanation of his SICK BURN being that all the people who claim DEMOS are what matter now have to eat crow because... they’re still winning the key demos...?
But the “YOU’RE ON IGNORE BUT HERE’S WHAT I THINK ABOUT THAT THING YOU JUST SAID...!” option seemed more fun.
BigCrippyZ
10-31-2020, 01:02 AM
I loved the explanation of his SICK BURN being that all the people who claim DEMOS are what matter now have to eat crow because... they’re still winning the key demos...?
But the “YOU’RE ON IGNORE BUT HERE’S WHAT I THINK ABOUT THAT THING YOU JUST SAID...!” option seemed more fun.
Come on now #1Fan, you have to acknowledge the brilliance of the logic of a complete fucking moron. :lol:
xrodmuc316
10-31-2020, 02:58 PM
You are all something else.
Yes, they won the demo, nobody ever said they didn't. The meme is that when they lose the overall rating, they go extra hard pointing out that they won the demos. That even when they lose, they still won because of winning the demos.
That's the joke, it was not meant to be anything other than a joke. Gertner was the only one that got it.
There is no reason to get THIS upset over a meme.
I can’t even see the meme.
xrodmuc316
10-31-2020, 05:31 PM
I can’t even see the meme.
Just a picture of mad Jericho saying "BUT MUH DEMOS". Was legit a nothing meme, but man did it get people riled up. Knew it when WWF fan made a post, then was still pissed enough to come back 14 minutes later and make another post mocking WCW, even though it was ok when AEW did Bash at the Beach.
#1-norm-fan
10-31-2020, 06:52 PM
When did I mock WCW? And when did I say it was okay when AEW did Bash at the Beach?
xrod with ANOTHER failed “gotcha”. This is sad. Someone call the fight.
#1-norm-fan
10-31-2020, 06:58 PM
If only he could choose to improve his reading comprehension as easily as he chooses to view my posts.
:nono:
1.656 for RAW this week
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xrodmuc316
11-03-2020, 05:51 PM
Raw again murdering AEW in the demos :eek:
But I thought Jim Ross said AEW kicks WWE's ass every week???
xrodmuc316
11-03-2020, 06:01 PM
AEW beats NXT in demos by 70,000 = AEW IS DESTROYING WWE, DEMO GODS!!!!!!!
Raw beats AEW in the demos by 180,000 = BUUUT THAT'S AN ESTABLISHED SHOW, IT'S NOT FAIR :'(:'(:'(:'(:'(:'(
PLUS PLUUUS HOW CAN WE COMPETE WHEN WE ONLY HAVE 10 GUYS ON OUR ROSTER THAT CAME FROM THAT ESTABLISHED SHOW???
:(
Who are you even representing with those “quotes”? Are these the dudes on the forum that Noid spends his time on?
That 3rd hour is the lowest in RAW history btw
xrodmuc316
11-03-2020, 08:25 PM
Who are you even representing with those “quotes”? Are these the dudes on the forum that Noid spends his time on?
I don't think Noid even post here anymore, but nope. My issue is a respected guy in the industry like Jim Ross is saying essentially that a .32 in the demo is somehow better than a .46 average over 3 hours of Raw in that demo.
Jim Ross said AEW kicks WWE's ass every week. He did not say AEW beats NXT in that demo on Wednesdays, he said AEW kicks WWE's ass every week.
The way he put it out there is a lie. I point that out because I think it's funny. It has 0 to do with other people here, unless in this case one of the people posting here is actually Jim Ross.
Bad News Gertner
11-03-2020, 10:58 PM
I miss Noid
I don't think Noid even post here anymore, but nope. My issue is a respected guy in the industry like Jim Ross is saying essentially that a .32 in the demo is somehow better than a .46 average over 3 hours of Raw in that demo.
Jim Ross said AEW kicks WWE's ass every week. He did not say AEW beats NXT in that demo on Wednesdays, he said AEW kicks WWE's ass every week.
The way he put it out there is a lie. I point that out because I think it's funny. It has 0 to do with other people here, unless in this case one of the people posting here is actually Jim Ross.
Can’t say I keep up with Jim Ross. I’d have thought it was implicit that when he said “WWE” he meant “NXT” given that (to my knowledge) AEW have never beaten Raw/SmackDown in the demo.
xrodmuc316
11-04-2020, 05:56 PM
Can’t say I keep up with Jim Ross. I’d have thought it was implicit that when he said “WWE” he meant “NXT” given that (to my knowledge) AEW have never beaten Raw/SmackDown in the demo.
Nope, he specifically mentioned WWE and Vince McMahon. He did not say NXT, Wednesday nights, or even acknowledge that NXT won the total viewers last week. It's all about 70,000 more people in that specific demo on Wednesday Nights that he is using for his claims, ignoring all other data, including the numbers WWE does in that same demo on Monday and Friday nights.
As Slik said, Raw did the lowest 3rd hour in their history, but that lowest in their history is still double the total viewers AEW does. That lowest in their history still drew 110,000 more in the demo AEW crows about.
If 70,000 more in the demo is AEW kicking ass, then what does it mean when Raw's lowest hour ever got 110,000 more than AEW gets?
If 70,000 more is a monumental victory, 110,000 more can't just be ignored when they constantly talk about WWE and how much better they are.
"BUUUT THAT'S AN ESTABLISHED SHOW, IT'S NOT FAIR :'(:'(:'(:'(:'(" ~ AEW direct quote
#1-norm-fan
11-05-2020, 09:21 AM
I have my doubts that that’s an “AEW direct quote”
I also have my doubts that xrod made it out of 2nd grade.
The top 50 Wednesday night cable shows consisted entirely of news shows per Bryan Alvarez.
Neither NXT or AEW charted in the top 50.
All things considered both NXT and AEW could have done much worse than this.
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Here's the top 50
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">AEW was actually the #2 non-news show on television in P18-49 Wednesday behind only REAL HOUSEWIVES OF OC</p>— Bryan Alvarez (@bryanalvarez) <a href="https://twitter.com/bryanalvarez/status/1324459748708675584?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 5, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
weather vane
11-05-2020, 06:07 PM
Fuck AEW wins again. People who watched NXT last week said fuck this. RIP WWE.
xrodmuc316
11-05-2020, 08:46 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">AEW was actually the #2 non-news show on television in P18-49 Wednesday behind only REAL HOUSEWIVES OF OC</p>— Bryan Alvarez (@bryanalvarez) <a href="https://twitter.com/bryanalvarez/status/1324459748708675584?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 5, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
LMAO, what a spin to describe losing 70,000 viewers!
xrodmuc316
11-05-2020, 08:47 PM
The top 50 Wednesday night cable shows consisted entirely of news shows per Bryan Alvarez.
Neither NXT or AEW charted in the top 50.
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weather vane
11-06-2020, 03:18 AM
This is embarrassing. Monopoly? Barely Dream Phone.
Mr. Nerfect
11-07-2020, 07:41 PM
I miss Noid
I miss you too. :kiss:
Bad News Gertner
11-07-2020, 07:41 PM
This day keeps getting better
Mr. Nerfect
11-07-2020, 07:43 PM
Fuck Bryan Alvarez is a fucking cunt. No shit the news was going to dominate this past week, you smug little dickless wonder. That's because more people are watching the news. Ah-doi. That doesn't mean fewer people are watching wrestling. The obsessed nerds who still punish themselves with this shit are going to watch wrestling anyway. It's not some big fucking mystery or some amazing miracle that AEW and NXT did pretty average. Most people get their news from their phones.
The thing this demonstrates is that you can actually get people to tune into cable when there is something worth watching. It's just that most of the time there isn't.
Bad News Gertner
11-07-2020, 07:57 PM
There's what I missed
xrodmuc316
11-07-2020, 08:26 PM
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Droford
11-08-2020, 06:07 PM
Fox News getting their asses handed to them is great
xrodmuc316
11-09-2020, 02:56 PM
Fox News getting their asses handed to them is great
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1.69 million for RAW this week
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Mr. Nerfect
11-10-2020, 05:32 PM
Basically 1.75 million for the first two hours. That’s a whole 1 million more than AEW.
xrodmuc316
11-10-2020, 06:55 PM
Basically 1.75 million for the first two hours. That’s a whole 1 million more than AEW.
AEW beating the Empire again by getting 1 million less viewers!
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Mr. Nerfect
11-10-2020, 07:09 PM
Cody can get fucked now. Was decent when AEW first started, but it’s clear this is a vanity project.
AEW - 764k
NXT - 632k
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I forgot to post SD from last week, it did 2.21 million avg
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NBCUniversal should revamp the USA Network into their version of Fox News and just move current programming they feel like keeping to SyFy, Bravo or Peacock.
If I were them I'd cut my losses and can NXT and just move RAW as a 2 hr show to another network and see if it can help their ratings. SyFy needs all the help it can get, Bravo seems to be doing fine.
Bad News Gertner
11-12-2020, 06:21 PM
Wow, that's gotta be disappointing for AEW. I thought they would have done better coming off a PPV. But when you're a niche product of an already niche product....
They peaked in week 1.
weather vane
11-12-2020, 07:03 PM
Just crushing WWE again. What a world.
SD - 2.14 million
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xrodmuc316
11-14-2020, 09:53 PM
Just crushing WWE again. What a world.
AEW - 764
Smackdown - 2114
Looks like AEW crushed WWE by getting 3 times less viewers than Smackdown :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::cool::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
xrodmuc316
11-14-2020, 10:03 PM
NBCUniversal should revamp the USA Network into their version of Fox News and just move current programming they feel like keeping to SyFy, Bravo or Peacock.
If I were them I'd cut my losses and can NXT and just move RAW as a 2 hr show to another network and see if it can help their ratings. SyFy needs all the help it can get, Bravo seems to be doing fine.
You are joking right?
USA had Smackdown for about $200 million.
NXT get half the rating Smackdown did for USA, but it cost them 4 times less. Simple deduction suggests USA is getting a bargain.
Also, TNT should cancel Dynamite, because it gets only 100,000 more viewers than the show you think should be cancelled, and unlike USA/WWE, TNT has no long-standing relationship with that promotion. AEW is not a continuation of WCW, no matter how hard they try to pretend it is.
Mr. Nerfect
11-14-2020, 10:44 PM
NBCUniversal should revamp the USA Network into their version of Fox News and just move current programming they feel like keeping to SyFy, Bravo or Peacock.
If I were them I'd cut my losses and can NXT and just move RAW as a 2 hr show to another network and see if it can help their ratings. SyFy needs all the help it can get, Bravo seems to be doing fine.
How would moving to a less known network help them? Raw is 3 hours because that third hour performs really well for the slot. The first 2 hours also help the network out tremendously. Raw is more valuable to the USA Network than Dynamite is to TNT.
NXT is incredibly cheap programming that draws close to what Dynamite gets, but is also PG and has the WWE branding to boost its value with advertisers. They also don't split ad revenue with WWE for it. If AEW took in the same amount of ad revenue as NXT, they're only half as valuable to TNT out the gate, then you've got to work in the TV rights fees.
USA is laughing at the TV deal they've got for NXT. It's possible that in the future TNT regrets their current configuration with AEW, because they'll want that ad revenue money.
NXT has helped capped AEW's audience, which is niche anyway. But there's 200k or so people who would watch Dynamite if NXT weren't also on at the same time. That keeps their popularity at a certain level that is going to make them a flea when it comes to TV rights negotiations in a few years time. You want WWE numbers? You need WWE for that. That's the plan. WWE aren't moving NXT to "win" a ratings "war." But TNT might move Dynamite if they feel they can get the audience to follow it to a different slot and if they get the idea that they can bump up viewership by 200k to maximize what they can out of it. That's when WWE actually counter-program them with some weight and AEW drops to about 600k on a Tuesday, because it will be a Triple H produced show with main roster talent. TNT, who would have been expecting 950k-1 million viewers at the new time would be extremely disappointed and someone has egg on their face and that rolls downhill. Plus, NXT would be unopposed then and would probably be doing about 800k viewers.
So Vince ends up with SmackDown, Raw, a new show and NXT as the top four in wrestling with Dynamite and the TNT Cody Hour or whatever they call it scrapping up fifth and sixth. Marathon not a sprint.
xrodmuc316
11-15-2020, 01:08 AM
I heard Raw is only on Monday night's because WWE knew that years later AEW would want to put a Monday Night show on the air. It's totally true! Even though Raw has been on Monday Nights for YEARS before AEW even existed, Raw is still only airing on Mondays to hurt AEW.
Mr. Nerfect
11-15-2020, 02:41 AM
And even though Raw is beating AEW in the ratings, AEW is still the hot thing with the kids.
#1-norm-fan
11-15-2020, 10:14 AM
xrod makes me hate that I love Noid.
xrodmuc316
11-15-2020, 05:24 PM
Remember how AEW was making fun of NXT for "hotshotting" a theme show with Halloween Havoc (even though they did the exact same thing with Bash at the Beach (before Cody traded that and FIVE other trademarks so he could be Rhodes (thus beating the empire!)))?
It's cool though, that they are gonna hotshot a World Title match on free TV to pop an extra 50,000 viewers, right?
AEW LOGIC!!!
#1-norm-fan
11-15-2020, 05:33 PM
Was AEW actually making fun of NXT for ”hotshotting” a theme show or are you doing that weird thing where you take a scenario that happened in your mind while you were laying in bed seething about AEW and then come here to argue against it?
Mr. Nerfect
11-15-2020, 06:25 PM
I know that AEW super fans accuse NXT of hot-shotting all the time and consider Tony Khan a smart and restrained booker with ideas for years. I’ve legitimately seen people say that Sasha vs. Io was wasting a dream match on free TV because NXT is “desperate.”
weather vane
11-16-2020, 03:33 PM
This is getting embarrassing for WWE. AEW is just pounding them week after week. You hate to see it.
Mr. Nerfect
11-16-2020, 03:46 PM
This is getting embarrassing for WWE. AEW is just pounding them week after week. You hate to see it.
Yeah, look at how bad SmackDown is sucking. It’s only the third most popular thing with women 18-49. :lol: Keep trying, shirtless Roman Reigns. Nobody wants to see that anymore!
Mr. Nerfect
11-16-2020, 04:07 PM
I have AEW superfans trying to tell me that AEW is beating Raw when it comes to making new fans. This past week, Raw got a 0.56 for its first two hours versus AEW’s 0.3. It’s a 0.53 if you add the third hour (which obviously handicaps Raw).
An average of 0.31 in people 18-34, more than doubling AEW’s 0.14. A 0.25 in girls and women under 35 and a 0.33 in boys and men in the same age bracket for Raw. 0.13 and 0.12 for AEW. It’s double for girls and almost TRIPLE for boys.
Can we just stop the bullshit about this being even close to as popular? They got 45% of the viewership, 57% of the “key” demo, 45% of the adults under 35, 52% of women and girls, and only 33% of boys and men. And that’s while producing 33.3% extra content through their second most popular show.
Yep, WWE must be shaking about those TV contracts coming up.
Mr. Nerfect
11-16-2020, 04:20 PM
Raw gets a 0.67 with men in the alleged key demo. AEW got a whopping 57% of that. They got 52% of grown-ass women who no longer live with their brothers and don’t have to look at the TV to see muscles. Bring Roman Reigns over and watch that margin widen.
Fuck, I just hate this manufactured hysteria around this shitty product. Bryan Alvarez literally called them “Attitude era numbers” this past week. And no, he didn’t mean in terms of volume, he was trying to put over how many heads per home were allegedly watching, but he said “Attitude era numbers.”
I swear it’s a bigger fucking work than the actual wrestling.
xrodmuc316
11-16-2020, 07:21 PM
This is getting embarrassing for WWE. AEW is just pounding them week after week. You hate to see it.
https://i.imgflip.com/4ldjzj.jpg
#1-norm-fan
11-16-2020, 09:30 PM
Yeah, look at how bad SmackDown is sucking. It’s only the third most popular thing with women 18-49. :lol: Keep trying, shirtless Roman Reigns. Nobody wants to see that anymore!
(Third most popular out of 5 networks. And one is The CW)
Damian Rey 2.0
11-17-2020, 12:42 AM
To be fair, topless heel Roman Reigns is pretty damn sexy
Mr. Nerfect
11-17-2020, 05:39 AM
(Third most popular out of 5 networks. And one is The CW)
We’re not in the 50’s where you have to watch network television.
#1-norm-fan
11-17-2020, 09:37 AM
How are you judging its spot as the “3rd most popular thing with women 18-49?” Are you not basing that ranking directly on the network ratings?
Ol Dirty Dastard
11-17-2020, 09:42 AM
Fan, you are in an argument with two giant assholes. Both are essentially Droford at this point. You're wasting your time.
#1-norm-fan
11-17-2020, 09:53 AM
Xrod was always Droford. Right down to the cocky manner in which he says undeniably wrong/insanely stupid shit. Like with Droford, pointing it out to him will never help. But it’s too fun not to.
Noid trolls. But I always have hope that our history of fighting the CyNicks of the world together will force him to tap the brakes on the trolling when it comes to me. Probably not though.
Ol Dirty Dastard
11-17-2020, 12:07 PM
Noid is legitimately just a dick bag who vastly overrates his own intelligence.
#1-norm-fan
11-17-2020, 02:29 PM
Definitely.
But don’t we all?
weather vane
11-17-2020, 03:04 PM
Not me. I just spit facts.
Bad News Gertner
11-17-2020, 03:27 PM
Noid is owning ya'll in this thread
weather vane
11-17-2020, 03:43 PM
Noids a bum.
Ol Dirty Dastard
11-17-2020, 04:40 PM
Definitely.
But don’t we all?
Nah... I’m stupid like a fox.
1.77 million for RAW this week
https://i.postimg.cc/xdQVJhFh/Final-Cable-2020-Nov-16-MON.png
weather vane
11-17-2020, 05:55 PM
RAW stinks.
#1-norm-fan
11-17-2020, 06:22 PM
Noid is owning ya'll in this thread
He ain’t owning me. I’ve got him pegged like Droford’s asshole in those fantasies Droford has expressed having. (Not judging. But the metaphor only works if everyone knows that Droford, despite his homophobia and transphobia, has in fact expressed a need for porn where a woman uses a strap-on on a man.)
xrodmuc316
11-17-2020, 09:27 PM
1.77 million for RAW this week
https://i.postimg.cc/xdQVJhFh/Final-Cable-2020-Nov-16-MON.png
AEW - 764
RAW - 1770
https://i.imgflip.com/4ldjzj.jpg
#1-norm-fan
11-17-2020, 09:37 PM
Seems like a very odd tactic to make up a quote and then argue against that quote you made up just so you can pretend you “checkmated” someone. That’s some next-level derpiness.
Mr. Nerfect
11-17-2020, 11:09 PM
JR did say they kicked NXT’s ass every week, which is an exaggeration and trivial compared to the larger scheme of things.
xrodmuc316
11-18-2020, 12:40 AM
JR did say they kicked NXT’s ass every week, which is an exaggeration and trivial compared to the larger scheme of things.
No, he said WWE, not NXT Every Wednesday.
He legit said "Well WWE, it's just business that we're kicking your ass every night."
This is from the same piece of garbage who used his wife's death to get a new 2 year contract from WWE, then bitched how they didn't use him enough.
They gave him a sympathy contract, and he turns around and buries them every chance he gets.
It's the same way he always buried Eric Bischoff and WCW for years, well that is until he got back on Turner's network.
At least he is still honoring his wife's memory by tweeting out how much he wants to bang younger women like Sunny and how he loves her onlyfans page. :rofl:
#1-norm-fan
11-18-2020, 01:17 AM
There is literally a human being in this thread at this very moment complaining that JR (widely considered the greatest commentator of all time) is a “piece of garbage” for “using his wife’s death” to get a paycheck from WWE...
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRamSpndsuqkneEBGSkiCWx-FZnPOUcJZxOOQ&usqp=CAU
This is where Noid has the perfect opportunity to either say “AEW is indeed horrible but xrod is a fucking idiot and I do not wish to be lumped in with him.” or to just push all of his chips in to the fucktard pot.
xrodmuc316
11-18-2020, 01:37 AM
No I didn't read it, but this dude replies to every post I make KNOWING I have his posts hidden. I can only guess he told me I'm dumb and like lame things and whatever else "gotchas" he thinks I said. :eek:
#1-norm-fan
11-18-2020, 01:45 AM
I already tricked you into proving you read my posts. It was very easy because you are incredibly dumb. Going out of your way to try to convince people you don’t see them doesn’t make you look smart. Just a heads up.
But let’s not focus on your “I got you on ignore” fail. We can come back to that.
Let’s stay focused on this JR post fail. I’m anxious to see if Noid does the right thing.
Ol Dirty Dastard
11-18-2020, 12:16 PM
Noid has proven time and again to swing off the nuts off anyone who pays him the slightest compliment.
Mr. Nerfect
11-18-2020, 08:41 PM
It depends what JR said. If he said they are kicking the WWE’s ass, then I don’t see how the quote is taken out of context. If he said NXT, then he’s still being an idiot because he should see the long game. And winning by 150k viewers is not kicking ass, nor does it even guarantee that AEW is making TNT more money than a cheaper, PG NXT.
I don’t think he used his wife’s death for a sympathy job. It wouldn’t surprise me if Jan’s passing has affected JR really deeply and caused him to want to go out there and do more. Keep busy, etc. I don’t agree with those comments.
JR being an idiot about this “war,” yes. JR’s relationship with WWE, no. I hope he gets out of AEW soon though. I could see FOX wanting him to be the commentator on SmackDown. If he can get the money, then it’s that plus more exposure for him.
AEW - 850k
NXT - 638k
https://i.postimg.cc/2yfY0mzR/Final-Cable-2020-Nov-18-WED.png
https://i.postimg.cc/90thSSM4/Screenshot-2020-11-19-at-3-44-51-PM.png
weather vane
11-19-2020, 05:57 PM
Oh god. Stop the damn match.
xrodmuc316
11-19-2020, 08:45 PM
AEW - 850k
NXT - 638k
https://i.postimg.cc/2yfY0mzR/Final-Cable-2020-Nov-18-WED.png
https://i.postimg.cc/90thSSM4/Screenshot-2020-11-19-at-3-44-51-PM.png
https://i.imgflip.com/4lll6y.jpg
Now that Guy Fieri has been vanquished it would seem The Real Housewives of Orange County is AEW's biggest Wednesday night competition....
Time to hire Tamra Judge to jump ship as a manager in AEW...
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/991UM2-Fww0" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>
xrodmuc316
11-19-2020, 11:06 PM
Now that Guy Fieri has been vanquished it would seem The Real Housewives of Orange County is AEW's biggest Wednesday night competition....
Time to hire Tamra Judge to jump ship as a manager in AEW...
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/991UM2-Fww0" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>
Housewives...
https://i.imgflip.com/4kc7uk.jpg
2.22 for SD
https://i.imgur.com/DL9yD6P.png
xrodmuc316
11-21-2020, 12:25 PM
2.22 for SD
https://i.imgur.com/DL9yD6P.png
The war is over, Smackdown dominates Dynamite again!
https://i.imgflip.com/4ldjzj.jpg
#1-norm-fan
11-21-2020, 02:19 PM
JR being an idiot about this “war,” yes. JR’s relationship with WWE, no. I hope he gets out of AEW soon though. I could see FOX wanting him to be the commentator on SmackDown. If he can get the money, then it’s that plus more exposure for him.
Lol Pretty sure exposure is not a driving force for him. Doing his own thing and not having to deal with Vince being a steaming pile of shit might be though.
xrodmuc316
11-23-2020, 01:25 AM
https://i.imgflip.com/4nhkxp.jpg
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">While this happened last week <a href="https://t.co/b4m0HdhdNa">pic.twitter.com/b4m0HdhdNa</a></p>— SoDuTw (@SoDuTw) <a href="https://twitter.com/SoDuTw/status/1330938352032489477?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 23, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
#1-norm-fan
11-23-2020, 06:09 PM
xrod currently looking for a nonsensical meme to post to make himself feel better.
xrodmuc316
11-23-2020, 06:49 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">While this happened last week <a href="https://t.co/b4m0HdhdNa">pic.twitter.com/b4m0HdhdNa</a></p>— SoDuTw (@SoDuTw) <a href="https://twitter.com/SoDuTw/status/1330938352032489477?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 23, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
No competition for Raw.
Oh except the 11.5 million people that watched Monday Night Football, we will just ignore that one :rofl:
Also, they are bragging about 270,000 viewers :roll:
#1-norm-fan
11-23-2020, 07:35 PM
A .27 rating does not mean 270,000 viewers. Since xrod is pretending he can’t read my posts I’ll leave the fun up to you guys. Keep in mind he is reading this post right now but has to pretend he isn’t. So he’s clued in but “not really”. Don’t let me down, guys! Have fun!
Ultra Mantis
11-23-2020, 08:14 PM
Xrod has been performing poorly with the key demographic all year. Would not be surprising if xrod got cancelled tbh.
xrodmuc316
11-23-2020, 09:05 PM
Xrod has been performing poorly with the key demographic all year. Would not be surprising if xrod got cancelled tbh.
https://i.imgflip.com/4ldjzj.jpg
Ultra Mantis
11-23-2020, 09:31 PM
Is that even slightly relevant? Nonsensical, repetitive drivel as we have come to expect.
#1-norm-fan
11-23-2020, 09:33 PM
I give it a .27 out of 10
xrodmuc316
11-23-2020, 09:58 PM
Is that even slightly relevant? Nonsensical, repetitive drivel as we have come to expect.
https://i.imgflip.com/4kc7uk.jpg
screech
11-23-2020, 10:01 PM
Just gonna guess that xrod is posting the same three memes over and over again.
(Also there is a 200% chance he will "choose to read" this post.)
#1-norm-fan
11-23-2020, 10:19 PM
I might have to ACTUALLY block him after this latest dunce moment.
We could always assume by his horrible reading comprehension that it would come to this but when you so arrogantly disregard a demo rating while clearly misunderstanding what the number literally means... there’s no coming back from that embarrassment. And he’d never admit his own stupidity. He’s likely stuck in a brain dead meme loop forever now. Game over for ol’ Derpy. It was fun while it lasted.
1.808 for RAW
https://i.postimg.cc/1t2fRVYN/raw.png
Mr. Nerfect
11-25-2020, 07:05 PM
AEW is not likely to beat that 0.31 for people with cats between the ages of 18 and 34 this week. It’s a 0.29 and last week AEW got a 0.27. Can they see an increase in this very important and reflective demographic on cable television in 2020?
Moreover, if Raw beats them, is Dave Meltzer going to make a tweet about the comeback? I imagine it will be suspiciously quiet.
1.986 for Black Friday SD
https://i.postimg.cc/HsTR1gmD/Fast-Demo-2020-Nov-27-FRI.png
AEW - 710k
NXT - 712k
https://i.postimg.cc/3rc1D3HT/Final-Cable-2020-Nov-25-WED.png
Bad News Gertner
11-30-2020, 07:53 PM
Hahah WWE Developmental wins!
xrodmuc316
12-01-2020, 01:04 AM
Hahah WWE Developmental wins!
https://i.imgflip.com/4kc7uk.jpg
Mr. Nerfect
12-01-2020, 03:46 AM
NXT drops the elbow. That's two Thanksgivings in a row.
Big Vic
12-01-2020, 03:44 PM
The only ratings that matter are thread replies.
xrodmuc316
12-01-2020, 05:36 PM
The only ratings that matter are thread replies.
We joke about that, but it is very true here. It is almost a point of pride to over-comment on AEW and under-comment on WWE.
Noid posted one comment about the number of posts on the last AEW PPV thread, and MULTIPLE people got so riled up they are STILL going out of their way to make only 1 post in WWE threads just to point out there is not a lot of posts.
The only way to be a "good poster" here is to profess your love for every single thing AEW does, and occasionally go to a WWE thread to say WWE is bad.
The
People's
All
Elite
Wrestling
Website
Just change the site name already, cause that's all this place is anymore. Signing off, enjoy TPAEWW everybody.
Mr. Nerfect
12-02-2020, 02:07 AM
AEW just fucking sucks. Too many people watch it, but you can't accuse Americans of having good taste.
AEW just fucking sucks. Too many people watch it, but you can't accuse Americans of having good taste.
Umm...how's posting in raw or smackdown threads working out for you?
screech
12-02-2020, 08:57 AM
"You don't have good taste" from the guy who fantasy booked World Title wins for Val Venis and Doug Basham.
RAW - 1.74 million
https://i.postimg.cc/nrm1wzbW/raw.png
Chris Cuomo now tops in cable news, would be curious to see the ratings for OANN/Newsmax...Hannity/Ingraham barely above 2 million now.
#1-norm-fan
12-02-2020, 06:22 PM
Just change the site name already, cause that's all this place is anymore. Signing off, enjoy TPAEWW everybody.
Dang.
I like to think that this was the post that forced xrod to realize that he could no longer argue the fact that he is dumb as fuck...
A .27 rating does not mean 270,000 viewers. Since xrod is pretending he can’t read my posts I’ll leave the fun up to you guys. Keep in mind he is reading this post right now but has to pretend he isn’t. So he’s clued in but “not really”. Don’t let me down, guys! Have fun!
May the spirit of this fucktard rest peacefully with that of CyNick, Norman Smiley and all other overly-cocky morons who have tried to cross me.
Mr. Nerfect
12-03-2020, 08:40 AM
"You don't have good taste" from the guy who fantasy booked World Title wins for Val Venis and Doug Basham.
All better than anything AEW has ever done. I’m not being facetious. AEW fucking sucks.
Also, you are a Kane mark. I used to like Kane once upon a time too, but I grew the buds to realize how fucking daft that is too.
#1-norm-fan
12-03-2020, 09:30 AM
Nah, early Kane was pretty great. I think It was also a Cornette idea. He based it on Michael Myers.
#1-norm-fan
12-03-2020, 09:33 AM
We must give Noid his due for booking bland midcarders as world champions though since apparently WWE read his posts and have stolen that idea many times over the decade+ since.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">AEW and NXT ratings aren't available yet, but Impact placed in the top 150 on Tuesday at #121. They scored 166K viewers, with a 0.05 in 18-49, which is about 15% of what AEW does in that demo. AEW and NXT ratings should be out shortly <a href="https://twitter.com/WrestlingInc?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WrestlingInc</a> <a href="https://t.co/xcogoALtvD">pic.twitter.com/xcogoALtvD</a></p>— Raj Giri (@RajGiri_303) <a href="https://twitter.com/RajGiri_303/status/1334617383961554945?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 3, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Thank you great fans who made <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWDynamite?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWDynamite</a> Winter Is Coming a huge success for <a href="https://twitter.com/AEW?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AEW</a> + <a href="https://twitter.com/tntdrama?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@tntdrama</a>! We got our best demo rating of 2020 + a new <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEW?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEW</a> Champion <a href="https://twitter.com/KennyOmegamanX?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@KennyOmegamanX</a> + an indelible memory with Sting’s arrival, + won the night<br>AEW 913k P2+/543k P18-49<br>NXT 658k P2+/210k P18-49</p>— Tony Khan (@TonyKhan) <a href="https://twitter.com/TonyKhan/status/1334632627094085639?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 3, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Bad News Gertner
12-03-2020, 07:21 PM
Lol he's such a front running bitch.
I love Jags and Fulham fans commenting on his wrestling posts that he never posts about them because they never win.
weather vane
12-03-2020, 07:23 PM
What a beat down!
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Interesting note on how AEW and NXT performed in terms of viewers year-to-year.<br>AEW:<br>Dec. 4, 2019: 851,000 viewers<br>Dec. 2, 2020: 913,000 viewers<br>NXT:<br>Dec. 4, 2019: 845,000 viewers<br>Dec. 2, 2020: 658,000 viewers</p>— Carlos Toro (@CarlosToroMedia) <a href="https://twitter.com/CarlosToroMedia/status/1334638618342805504?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 3, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
xrodmuc316
12-03-2020, 08:53 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Interesting note on how AEW and NXT performed in terms of viewers year-to-year.<br>AEW:<br>Dec. 4, 2019: 851,000 viewers<br>Dec. 2, 2020: 913,000 viewers<br>NXT:<br>Dec. 4, 2019: 845,000 viewers<br>Dec. 2, 2020: 658,000 viewers</p>— Carlos Toro (@CarlosToroMedia) <a href="https://twitter.com/CarlosToroMedia/status/1334638618342805504?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 3, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Lol, what a great spin. Talk about observation bias.
Do you people not see how this is some of the stupidest shit ever?
AEW:
2019-10-02 1,409,000 2020-09-30 866,000
2019-10-09 1,140,000 2020-10-07 753,000
2019-10-16 1,014,000 2020-10-14 826,000
2019-10-23 963,000 2020-10-21 753,000
2019-10-30 759,000 2020-10-28 781,000
2019-11-06 822,000 2020-11-04 717,000
2019-11-13 957,000 2020-11-11 764,000
2019-11-20 893,000 2020-11-18 850,000
2019-11-27 663,000 2020-11-25 712,000
2019-12-04 851,000 2020-12-02 913,000
LOOK AT THAT AMAZING YEAR TO YEAR GROWTH,
paaaaweeze don count these weeks, not ewite
Bad News Gertner
12-03-2020, 08:55 PM
xrodmuc and noid making fools out of everyone here.
Mr. Nerfect
12-03-2020, 10:26 PM
Hahaha, they only got 913k people. And they’re making a huge deal out of it. Dead.
weather vane
12-03-2020, 10:41 PM
Poor WWE. Vince must be rolling in his grave.
Mr. Nerfect
12-04-2020, 05:18 AM
Any word on what percentage of AEW’s 18-49 demo has lost their virginity yet?
weather vane
12-04-2020, 02:04 PM
I only 69 so I brought it down for sure.
Mr. Nerfect
12-04-2020, 02:42 PM
NOW the name makes sense.
AEW #2 spot, tied in the demo for the top spot
https://i.postimg.cc/0yPDhzQg/aew.png
xrodmuc316
12-04-2020, 11:42 PM
AEW #2 spot, tied in the demo for the top spot
https://i.postimg.cc/0yPDhzQg/aew.png
Not bad for an episode promoted as
"The Biggest Episode of Dynamite EVER!"
But also...
STILL LESS THAN RAW!!!!!!!!
:mad::rant::mad::rant::mad::rant::mad::rant::mad::rant::mad::rant::mad::rant::mad::rant::mad::rant: :mad::rant: :fu::fu::fu::fu::fu:
Mr. Nerfect
12-05-2020, 02:17 AM
Couldn’t even crack a mil with their version of Goldberg/Hogan. At least they’ve got that consistent draw Sting to come in and clean up for them.
2.03 million for SD
https://i.postimg.cc/FKxZ137x/Fast-Demo-2020-Dec-04-FRI.png
Bad News Gertner
12-05-2020, 04:20 PM
Lmao Tony getting roasted on Twitter for finally tweeting about Fulham after a loss. Tony NEVER tweets about Fulham or the Jags when they lose.
xrodmuc316
12-06-2020, 04:04 PM
2.03 million for SD
https://i.postimg.cc/FKxZ137x/Fast-Demo-2020-Dec-04-FRI.png
No added special effects
No special theme
No legend debut
No World Title Change
No cross promotion partnership
As predicted...
STILL KILLED AEW IN THE RATINGS!!!!!
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
https://i.imgflip.com/4ldjzj.jpg
https://i.imgflip.com/4nhkxp.jpg
Mr. Nerfect
12-07-2020, 04:45 PM
Remember when Moxley cut a promo and then said "Just kidding" after it?
Supreme Olajuwon
12-07-2020, 05:52 PM
Lol this guy thinks he’s going to take down AEW with his sweet homemade memes
Wrestling fans man. A special breed.
xrodmuc316
12-07-2020, 07:28 PM
Lol this guy thinks he’s going to take down AEW with his sweet homemade memes
Wrestling fans man. A special breed.
If you really think that is all, more power to you. I'm geeking out over the same exact stuff, one show (Smackdown) beats another show (Dynamite) by a lot in the ratings.
It's cool to come on this board and bust nuts over .9 one day, but then doing it for 2.03 on a different day isnt? Kind of a weird double standard, no?
Volare
12-07-2020, 07:55 PM
Good thing Smeat carried the whole Smackdown thread, or I would've forgotten it existed.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Impact Wrestling last week was listed on Showbuzzdaily for the first time since its been on AXS. Presumably AXS was not previously subscribed to Nielsen.<br><br>The program was watched by 166,000 viewers and did a 0.05 P18-49 rating (about 65k).<a href="https://t.co/yTRXQaclqR">https://t.co/yTRXQaclqR</a> <a href="https://t.co/a5aNF63NtH">pic.twitter.com/a5aNF63NtH</a></p>— Brandon Thurston (@BrandonThurston) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrandonThurston/status/1336477540215558145?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 9, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
RAW did 1.74 million viewers again this week
xrodmuc316
12-09-2020, 01:02 AM
RAW did 1.74 million viewers again this week
AEW got killed again.
xrodmuc316
12-09-2020, 06:48 PM
FINALLY, an honest thread title!
Impact beat NXT in the 18-49 demo
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">SCENES <a href="https://t.co/mPCVzhndS5">https://t.co/mPCVzhndS5</a> <a href="https://t.co/iKRh6kETAh">pic.twitter.com/iKRh6kETAh</a></p>— SoDuTw (@SoDuTw) <a href="https://twitter.com/SoDuTw/status/1336833413421133830?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 10, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Bad News Gertner
12-09-2020, 09:10 PM
Lol Key Demos
Like a bunch of basement dwelling incels are buying cars and shit. Advertisers know this and that why AEW has sponsors like fucking Cracker Barrel despite their "key demos"
xrodmuc316
12-09-2020, 09:47 PM
Impact beat NXT in the 18-49 demo
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">SCENES <a href="https://t.co/mPCVzhndS5">https://t.co/mPCVzhndS5</a> <a href="https://t.co/iKRh6kETAh">pic.twitter.com/iKRh6kETAh</a></p>— SoDuTw (@SoDuTw) <a href="https://twitter.com/SoDuTw/status/1336833413421133830?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 10, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
That's a lie. AXS isn't even in 200,000 homes :rofl:
screech
12-09-2020, 10:13 PM
Well they can get Cracker Barrel delivered to the basement so AEW really knows their target audience.
drave
12-10-2020, 09:46 AM
^ lol
Impact is clearly the better show with better talent top to bottom. Also they have Rich Swann who is one of the biggest draws in the business right now.
Mr. Nerfect
12-10-2020, 04:53 PM
Impact beat NXT in the 18-49 demo
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">SCENES <a href="https://t.co/mPCVzhndS5">https://t.co/mPCVzhndS5</a> <a href="https://t.co/iKRh6kETAh">pic.twitter.com/iKRh6kETAh</a></p>— SoDuTw (@SoDuTw) <a href="https://twitter.com/SoDuTw/status/1336833413421133830?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 10, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
No it didn’t. These headlines are misleading and this is why you shouldn’t be paid to think. It’s also how this “reporting” by Meltzer, Alvarez and the like should be taken to task — because idiots latch onto the twists they make as reality.
They are doing this on purpose. They want people to run away with this bullshit and put their own spin on it. I don’t know if they are getting paid, but they sure should be.
Evil Vito
12-10-2020, 05:08 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">AEW: 995,000<br>NXT: 659,000<br><br>AEW #2 on all of cable and #1 on all of cable in males 18-49 (0.57), and an 0.45 in persons 18-49.</p>— Bryan Alvarez (@bryanalvarez) <a href="https://twitter.com/bryanalvarez/status/1337141291960782848?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 10, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Nice!
Here's the chart if anyone's curious
https://i.postimg.cc/nhdVZrrB/ratings.png
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Impact Wrestling drew 750,000 fans across AXS TV and Digital platforms <a href="https://t.co/KROv21YTKM">https://t.co/KROv21YTKM</a> <a href="https://t.co/SxnySGcb2T">pic.twitter.com/SxnySGcb2T</a></p>— WrestlingNews.co - WWE/AEW News (@WrestlingNewsCo) <a href="https://twitter.com/WrestlingNewsCo/status/1337143849853079561?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 10, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
xrodmuc316
12-10-2020, 06:34 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Impact Wrestling drew 750,000 fans across AXS TV and Digital platforms <a href="https://t.co/KROv21YTKM">https://t.co/KROv21YTKM</a> <a href="https://t.co/SxnySGcb2T">pic.twitter.com/SxnySGcb2T</a></p>— WrestlingNews.co - WWE/AEW News (@WrestlingNewsCo) <a href="https://twitter.com/WrestlingNewsCo/status/1337143849853079561?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 10, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Tanslation, 720,000 people watched it across digital platforms, and 30,000 weirdos actually have AXS TV and also watched Impact lmao
Bad News Gertner
12-10-2020, 07:20 PM
Next week will be interesting since AEW had a pretty bleh show this week
xrodmuc316
12-10-2020, 08:05 PM
Next week will be interesting since AEW had a pretty bleh show this week
Next week...
https://i.imgflip.com/4kc7uk.jpg
weather vane
12-10-2020, 09:54 PM
Holy cow. Stop the fight. Honestly. AEW changing the world.
Mr. Nerfect
12-11-2020, 05:08 AM
Unimpressive viewership in context, but a good increase with Sting and Shaq. They're not going to be able to bring people in like that every week, so they better hope they made a good impression this week. Feedback I've heard from the show has been less than stellar.
Volare
12-12-2020, 04:19 PM
<iframe width="1583" height="620" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/ijseYQLDBTQ" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>
Ol Dirty Dastard
12-15-2020, 05:15 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">AEW last week beat all three hours of Raw last night in key demo, set its record in VPH and was first in both that and youngest skewing sports audience of the week. We had pegged that next summer at the earliest and only with WWE not turning it around or else no chance.</p>— Dave Meltzer (@davemeltzerWON) <a href="https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/1338955620066578432?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 15, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
OH SHIT AEW WRESTLING CHAMPION OF THE WORLD
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Self, look at you. <a href="https://t.co/jSihGErsXh">https://t.co/jSihGErsXh</a></p>— Bryan Alvarez (@bryanalvarez) <a href="https://twitter.com/bryanalvarez/status/1338954997078245376?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 15, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This was the all-time record low number for RAW.</p>— Bryan Alvarez (@bryanalvarez) <a href="https://twitter.com/bryanalvarez/status/1338953711217885184?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 15, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
1.526 million for RAW
https://i.postimg.cc/wTBNsr2m/wwe.png
Triple A
12-15-2020, 08:59 PM
0.45 rating for last week's Dynamite, 0.41 for Raw
Time for band-aids rather than actual change!
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Talking a source just now who said the record low RAW rating news isn’t “sitting well” with those in power. To a point where they expect some reactionary decisions to be made. Time will tell.</p>— WrestleVotes (@WrestleVotes) <a href="https://twitter.com/WrestleVotes/status/1339015721230151682?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 16, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
screech
12-15-2020, 11:03 PM
So which legends will they drag out for RAW in the next week or two?
weather vane
12-16-2020, 12:42 AM
AEW may be the death of WWE. You hate to see it.
Damian Rey 2.0
12-16-2020, 01:06 AM
So which legends will they drag out for RAW in the next week or two?
Here comes the money.....HERE COMES THE MONEY!
Here comes the return of Raw Underground!!! :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
Keith Lee shortened to "Lee"
Bray's red lighting returns
Miz defeats Drew for the title, Charlotte returns and defeats Miz, Nia defeats Charlotte, new WWE Champ Nia Jax
Damian Rey 2.0
12-16-2020, 02:32 AM
What readily available stars from the early 2000s can they bring in and put a belt on?
Jeff Jarrett to defeat Drew McIntyre for title in shocking twist
WM 37 - Double J vs The Game to determine who the real icon was
Damian Rey 2.0
12-16-2020, 02:35 AM
Oh yeah. Triple H.
HBK v Roman Reigns at WrestleMania.
the fiend vs edge in an hour-long iron man match
Damian Rey 2.0
12-16-2020, 03:13 AM
the fiend vs edge in an hour-long iron man match
Edge goes over 10-0
Big Vic
12-16-2020, 09:32 AM
So which legends will they drag out for RAW in the next week or two?
Taker unretires
You all know though that AEW didn't really beat Raw in the demos THIS week, right?
AEW hasn't aired this week. By this logic, I can just pick any random week and compare it to AEW.
Every 2000 WCW Thunder in August beat every AEW rating ever, and they went out of business. Guess AEW is doomed!
ratings were not what put WCW out of business..no matter how shit the product was
806k for AEW, another strong week
NXT at 766k
https://i.imgur.com/iROWsQj.png
Damian Rey 2.0
12-17-2020, 05:23 PM
Drop off makes sense considering the card wasn't very strong
Bad News Gertner
12-17-2020, 05:43 PM
"Sting is a draw"
No he's not.
Evil Vito
12-17-2020, 05:52 PM
LMAO Gertner editing the topic title
Shisen Kopf
12-17-2020, 05:52 PM
Surfer Sting was a bigger draw than crappy crow Sting. They used to pack the Cobb County Civic Center in the early 90s. That's the pinnacle of rasslin success.
Damian Rey 2.0
12-17-2020, 06:31 PM
They should've never let out that Sting can't go or bump. Kills any intrigue people might have had in seeing him.
Bad News Gertner
12-17-2020, 06:36 PM
He's never been THAT big of a star. I've always been a Sting fan but people WAY over rate how big of a star he was/is in the wrestling world. Outside of 97 Starrcade and some late 80's early 90's matches with Flair (which in hindsight have more to do with Flair since Flair drew with Luger and Sting, but Luger vs Sting never did), he's never been a big draw. He's a 3rd tier guy if I'm going to rank wrestlers.
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