Marvel Universe Thread

[parkmania]

He can play serious.

Yeah, wasn't Leary the main character on Rescue Me for several years?

[Fignuts]

Oh ok, nevermind, I was thinking of Dennis Miller.

OUTRAGEOUS

[Innovator]

Slattery can do that role very well

[Sixx]

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[Sixx]

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[Kalyx triaD]

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[Fignuts]

I want to see Black Swan.

Also, lol at that scarf.

[Kalyx triaD]

Chris Zylka, best known from Hannah Montana and Cougartown, is reportedly joining the cast as Flash Thompson, a high school classmate of Peter Parker's who goes from bullying tormentor to eventual friend.

[Kalyx triaD]

In theory, Iron Man 3 is going to be a sequel or continuation of Thor, Hulk, Captain America, and Avengers.

Gonna assume that mean Iron Man 3 will be open to the expanded elements of the Marvel Universe, which hints to me the Manderin or facing enemies of other heroes.

[Blitz]

Blonde Emma Stone.

http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/101206/Emma-Stone-blonde_240.jpg

[Kalyx triaD]

All she needs is that hair thing.

[Nowhere Man]

Okay, now I see why they cast her as Gwen instead of Mary Jane. The resemblance is downright eerie.

[Kalyx triaD]

Back in the comics, we have a new Venom:

http://comicsmedia.ign.com/comics/image/article/113/1139513/venom-goes-black-ops-20101209013323691.jpg

He works for the US govt. and presumably still has Spidey/Venom powers along with that extra gear. No one knows who he is yet. He'll star in his own series this Spring.

[Fignuts]

Symbiote used as a recon or black ops tool, COULD make for great storywriting.

Better chance that it will be stupid.

Also, what happened to scorpion.

[Kalyx triaD]

He gets stripped of it against his will in an upcoming comic (not Thunderbolts). Whether he gets his Scorpion on after that is not certain.

[McLegend]

Jon Favreau on Iron Man 3

In a recent interview with MTV to promote his new movie, Cowboys and Aliens, director Jon Favreau revealed that Iron Man 3 will be a sequel to not just Iron Man 2, but a continuation of all of the storylines in the preceeding Marvel Studios movies, including The Incredible Hulk, Captain America: The First Avenger, Thor and The Avengers. Now, MTV has released more of that interview with Favreau and the director has revealed how the changing face of the Marvel Cinematic Universe will affect the world Tony Stark (Robert Downey Jr.) finds himself in in the third chapter in the franchise.
If you remember, Iron Man was a very normal world. It was based in our real world, with a few little things exaggerated. The technology was exaggerated slightly, but really it didn't feel like you were stepping into a superhero world. It didn't feel like you were stepping into the Marvel Universe.
By the time Iron Man 3 happens, you will have had three other superheroes revealing themselves at least, in addition to S.H.I.E.L.D. and Black Widow (Scarlett Johansson) and whoever they have in Avengers. So now you're going into a world where you open up the paper and you're reading about villains and heroes and a lot of people with different types of powers. Everything was tech-based in Iron Man, but the world is opening up very much.

One of the things that this new world means for Iron Man 3 is that Iron Man is not just stuck facing tech- or reality-based villains. When asked if that means that fans might finally get to see Iron Man square off against the Mandarin, a villain who wields ten alien rings, each with a different power, Favreau said, "I hope so."
Because all my stuff was tech-based, and now you have other worlds and inter-dimensions and this sense of history—which I think is quite cool—that we started with the Stark Expo. There was a lot of stuff we had to present to set up other future properties, so I'm well aware of the challenges that go into it. You're not just servicing one film. You're not just making the best film you can, you're setting up a playground for all of the characters to play in.

Read more about Jon Favreau on the Changing Marvel Cinematic Universe and Seeing the Mandarin in Iron Man 3 by www.reelzchannel.com

http://www.reelzchannel.com/movie-news/8526/jon-favreau-on-the-changing-marvel-cinematic-universe-and-seeing-the-mandarin-in-iron-man-3


That's going to be really hard to pull off.

[Lock Jaw]

Probably be crappy.

If they do bring in Mandarin, I hope they bring back the whole League of the Ten Rings thing from the first movie and not just completely drop that.

[Fignuts]

I don't think Favreau is the type of director to not make those connections.

[Jeritron]

I don't know why they just state it like it's a given that we all felt like Iron Man didn't feel like stepping into the Marvel Universe.
It totally did. Just because the characters weren't supernatural or from other planets didn't mean it didn't have that feel in some way. The villain types and everything totally felt comic booky.
I don't think I'd really think twice about an alien or something fantastical showing up out of nowhere in a scene.
Whoever wrote that makes it sound like it's to the Dark Knight end of the spectrum, when I really don't agree.

That's neither a good or bad thing. I think the tone of the Iron Man movies is perfect the way it is, and putting something "unrealistic" in there doesn't change it much for me.
I guess because to me it's still in the area of science fiction-y comic book movie, and not a crime drama or something.

[Sixx]

Is the first part of Iron Man better than the second?

Cause I don't think I've seen it sober.

[Funky Fly]

You know what? Just stop being sober and your problem is solved.

[Sixx]

That's not so good of an answer.

[Kalyx triaD]

You either wanna watch the movies or you don't.

The whole 'I'm interested while not being interested' was never cute to me. Often employed by people engaging in something they're not completely into and would feel shamed if they showed genuine interest outside of "I was drunk" and "I'm just wasting time" or "I got it for free anyway".

Just an observation of mine in this and the VG forum.

[Sixx]

I remember the beginning and think that whole "I'm gonna turn my back on the camera and build me a cool armour" shit was completely stupid.

But I loved the second film. So I was just asking for an opinion if the first movie was any good.

[Kalyx triaD]

I remember the beginning and think that whole "I'm gonna turn my back on the camera and build me a cool armour" shit was completely stupid.

lol wut?

[Jeritron]

wtf

[Sixx]

The beginning of Iron Man.

[Kalyx triaD]

Um...

[Miotch]

Back in the comics, we have a new Venom:

http://comicsmedia.ign.com/comics/image/article/113/1139513/venom-goes-black-ops-20101209013323691.jpg

He works for the US govt. and presumably still has Spidey/Venom powers along with that extra gear. No one knows who he is yet. He'll star in his own series this Spring.

Looks like Punisher

[Optimus Bone 69]

Looks like Punisher

looks like shite

[Lock Jaw]

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[McLegend]

I think that trailer looks pretty good,

[Rammsteinmad]

Hell yeah that looks FANTASTIC!!! I seem to get this way every time a new Marvel trailer comes out. That looks fucking awesome though.

[Fignuts]

Pretty much the same as the first trailer. with a few new destroyer clips. Still fucking salivating over here.

Thor is still my favorite book of all time.

[Fignuts]

Holy fuck balls, if you havn't checked out the recent Spider-Woman comic, get off your fucking ass. I guess it started as one of those digital motion comics or whatever? I dunno I downloaded the regular comic version, but damn if it's not the best book I've read in a long time.

It takes place shortly after secret invasion, and agent brand of s.w.or.d. offers her a job as a detective with executive order, hunting down and killing unwanted alien presences. It's like a gritty, noir detective comic with aliens. Yeah, I know making things "gritty" has become an overdone cliche at this point, but in this case it actually works really well, and is not done, just for the sake of it. Also, the artwork suits the noir style perfectly, and is really really amazing work.

Helps that given her backstory, Jessica Drew is an interesting character, made even more interesting by the position she finds herself in after secret invasion. Sure the "Hero framed and unjustly hated by everyone" story has been done countless times, but rarely on this scale. Even more rare is that you really get to see how this affects the character on an emotional level. Usually with this kind of deal, the hero barely notices the hate coming his way, and sets off to clear his name. Well in this case, Drew's name is already cleared, and almost everyone in the world still hates her anyway. And this book really delves into what that does to a person.

On top of all that, there is a ton of action too. Very well drawn and put together action, at that. I was actually shocked at how much action there was given that it's mainly a detective story, with all that character stuff I mentioned thrown in. There is a perfect balance of all that stuff though, and the story moves a very good pace, because of it.

The bad news is, that despite Bendis having really big plans for the book, it's been put on hold for the moment. The artist is burnt out on the character after the first arc, and looking at how much work goes into the art, I completely believe him when he says he had to eat, sleep, and breathe spider-woman for the entire time he was working on it. And Bendis says he doesn't want to do the book with a different artist, so he will wait until Maleev comes back. Normally I don't agree with that type of decision, but in this case the art of Maleev is just too perfect for the story to accept anyone else. This book is one of those rare cases where everything just comes together, and removing one piece, could seriously damage the work as a whole.

That said, it is inevitable that they will return to it, given Bendis' love of the character, and just because of how damn good it is.

I will be buying the trade for this, post haste. I suggest you at least download and read this asap. It's only 7 issues in, so it's a quick dl. Get it.

[Rammsteinmad]

Never really cared too much about any of the Spider-Women to be hoenst, though if it's as good as you say I may check it out. Can u post/find any pics of the artwork? Kinda interested to see it.

[Fignuts]

http://i310.photobucket.com/albums/kk427/PeteThePIPster/Spider-Woman05.jpg

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/45NFn09EzuE/0.jpg

http://www.comicsbulletin.com/news/images/0908/SpiderWoman_01_Preview7.jpg

[Fignuts]

Also, been reading S.H.I.E.L.D., and that is a really neat book. A little over the top, and one part in particular is a bit ridiculous, but it is all still pretty fun nonetheless.

[Rammsteinmad]

Nice.

[Fignuts]

I feel that in comics, the art can play a major part in whether a book works or not. The original Spider-woman mini series had a good story. It was mostly a tragic story though, and the book was ruined by this lighthearted artwork that completely ruined it. Just did not fit at all.

Similar happened some years back, during the Fantastic Four "Hell" arc. Dr. Doom murders the only woman he ever loved so he can gain enough power as a sorceror to send Valerie Richards to hell. And he adopted armor that looked like stitched together skin.

All this in a cartoony art style that you would expect in a squirrel girl comic. Awful.

[Lock Jaw]

I read the Spider-Woman series awhile back. I remember liking it, but it wasn't anything to post TPWW about.

[Inadequacy]

I loved the spider-woman series but I missed the sixth issue, still pretty bummed about that.

[Fignuts]

What, only modern fucking classics are worth telling anyone about?

Besides, people have different tastes. Someone else here might like it more than you did, you silly billy.

[Lock Jaw]

Yeah, I was just giving my opinion.

You should check out X-Factor, if you don't read it. It is also like a noir detective thing. Moments in that series have had me dropping my locked jaw with their Awesomeness.

[parkmania]

Numerous reports from Hollywood indicate that Chris Zylka (Hannah Montana) has won the role of Flash Thompson, Peter Parker’s high school nemesis in Marc Webb’s reboot of the Spider-Man franchise, which begins production this week. Thompson is a high school football star who mercilessly bullies Peter Parker, but who also, in a marvelous example of how Stan Lee manages to humanize his villains, greatly admires Spider-Man’s exploits.



Flash Thompson didn’t have much of a presence in the Sam Raimi Spider-Man trilogy, but since Webb is taking Parker back to high school, the nasty jock’s role should figure more prominently in the reboot. The Wrap has confirmed that Zylka will get the key role of Flash Thompson.



Zylka, who recently played a dimwitted surfer in Gregg Araki’s Kaboom, joins a stellar cast that includes Andrew Garfield, Emma Stone, Martin Sheen, Sally Field (see “Martin Sheen as Uncle Ben in Spidey Reboot”), Rhys Ifans, Irrfan Khan, Dennis Leary, Campbell Scott, Julianne Nicolson, and Anne Parisse (see “Spidey’s Parents Will Get Screen Time”).

[Kalyx triaD]

Tony Stark will have a new suit in Avengers! I also expect to see some Hulk Buster Armor, been that it's almost certain Hulk will be the team's first issue. I also have a feeling most of the costumes will be tweaked anyway.

Marvel's looking toward Avengers, Ant-Man, and Runaways as their next in-house ventures. It seems they reacquired the rights to Punisher as well. Whether that means he'll be assimilated in the grand scheme of things is not stated. My advice, get Thomas Jane back before DC puts his ass in a Jonah Hex reboot/sequel - although that's kinda win-win. Marvel's also looking into the females of the Marvel U, as well as the cosmic sandbox Thor will open up.

[Fignuts]

I actually thought Ray Stevens was better.

I mean yeah, Jane is the better actor, no boubt, but stevens captured the character much better, and has a better look for the role.

[Fignuts]

Just gonna let everyone know, any book with the word "Avengers" in the title has been great lately.

Except for secret. First arc was kinda dumb imo.

[Sixx]

I actually thought Ray Stevens was better.

I mean yeah, Jane is the better actor, no boubt, but stevens captured the character much better, and has a better look for the role.

Yup.

Jane is too cute for The Punisher.

[Rammsteinmad]

Jane was great as the Punisher in that he started out as the happy family guy who had just lost his family.

Stevenson was based a few years after, and definitely had that rough, gritty look of a man battling a war for so long.

But I agree, they should keep Stevenson.

[Sixx]

Didn't say Jane's creation wasn't good.

It's just his face.

[Jeritron]

If they're going to put Punisher on the big-screen again, they should just work him into another property. At least for starters.
They should also use a new actor, but doing another solo movie would be a bit overboard.

I'd rather see him as a secondary character in something, like Colossus is rumored to be in Deadpool. Or Nick Fury in the latest Marvel movies.

His roots are in Spider-Man, but I'd rather see him as a tweener character in one of the Avengers off-shoots.
Actually, if they have any intentions of making a Nick Fury/SHIELD movie, that would be a perfect place to implement him.

[Rammsteinmad]

Gotta agree with Jeritron.

I actually love the last two movies, but another movie, with another new actor etc would be overkill.

But appearing in a Nick Fury movie would be a good move, or if Black Widow ever got her own one.

[Jeritron]

His character would work perfectly if he had similar interests or objectives as SHIELD/Avengers, but wasn't working with them.
The type of deal where he keeps getting tied up in their missions, and is both in their way and helping them out.
Eventually, they could come under one tent.

[Jeritron]

Jon Favreau will not be returning to the Marvel Universe for a third Iron Man film, Vulture reports.

The article suggests that the choice was made at the director's discretion and that he informed Marvel Studios of his decision this morning. Though Favreau's reasoning is purely speculatory at this stage, it is likely that the director simply wishes to pursue other creative ventures.

[Jeritron]

10 bucks on Brett Ratner coming in and making an awful movie

[McLegend]

I don't think he liked the idea of having to do all the other Marvel stuff for Iron Man 3.

[Jeritron]

I agree. Seemed like they already did that to him with Iron Man 2

[McLegend]

And that's nothing compared to what they want for Iron Man 3.

[Jeritron]

His strength was in directing Downey Jr. as a comedic and personal character anyways. The bigger the movies get, the less appropriate he probably is for it.

It seems like the Iron Man movies should stay that way, since the Avengers movies serve the other purpose.
But Marvel obviously wants to get as much bang for their buck as they can.

[Sixx]

10 bucks on Brett Ratner coming in and making an awful movie

Dunno, I liked X-Men 3.

[Fignuts]

X-3 wasn't that bad, but Singer's X-men and the Spider-man movies set the bar so high that X-3 was a dissapointment,

[Rammsteinmad]

I really enjoyed X-Men 3. The only thing I didn't like was that half of the original team were gone by the end battle. I mean, no Cyclops?! Jean was Dark Phoenix, and Rogue was gone.

[Lara Emily]

10 bucks on Brett Ratner coming in and making an awful movie

It's not like Ironman 2 was super fantastic itself.

[Kalyx triaD]

Loving Spectacular Spidey right now. 6 eps. in and I'm feeling the story. Best Spidey cartoon, yes.

[Nowhere Man]

I'd honestly put Spectacular up there on the same tier as the holiest of holies itself (Batman: the Animated Series). I still haven't forgiven them for canceling it.

[Kalyx triaD]

It made recapture my love for Spidey. Tempted to play Shattered Dimensions for Josh Keaton alone.

[Kalyx triaD]

http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/8/2010/12/featiself.jpg

[Rammsteinmad]

?

[Nowhere Man]

So.....what, is Scarecrow hopping over to Marvel?

[Kalyx triaD]

It's the next big 'event', Marvel's saying it's as ambitious as Civil War. Details are otherwise thin.

[Rammsteinmad]

I hate when that happens.

[Jeritron]

Sounds cool, but that poster is pretty lame. Bland artwork

[Lock Jaw]

Marvel already has a Scarecrow. Who is basically a rip of DC's Scarecrow and Ragdoll characters.

[parkmania]

Marvel announced its Summer 2011 crossover event at a press conference at Midtown Comics on Tuesday. Fear Itself will premiere with a special extra-long prologue issue in March, followed by a seven issue miniseries launching in April.



Crossovers and special series will be at Secret Invasion scale, with miniseries and storylines in ongoing series tied to the main series.



The prologue (with a story at roughly 45 pages) will be written by Ed Brubaker with art by Scot Eaton.



The Fear Itself miniseries will be written by Matt Fraction, with art by Stuart Immonen.



Marvel editor-in-chief Joe Quesada promised that the series would be in a real world context in which “fear, above all else, seems to be the great motivator.”



“It feels like there’s this great shadow over all of us,” Quesada said, “and reason and discourse have taken a back seat to fear.”



The storyline will feature Marvel heroes vs. the god of fear.



Tom Brevoort, who’s helming the event, promised that, “At whatever level you choose to buy in, hopefully we’ve built this in such a way that you’ll get a fulfilling experience.”

[parkmania]

The actor playing Spider-Man (or his stunt double) fell into an open pit at the end of the stage near the end of the performance of Spider-Man: Turn Off the Dark on Monday night, according to the New York Times. The fall was followed by a woman screaming and sobbing, according to a witness who spoke to the Times. The performance was halted and the injured actor was taken away in an ambulance “for observation,” according to a statement from the production.



Some equipment fell into the audience when the actor’s fall occurred, according to the report.



The production has been plagued with problems with the stunts, both during previews (see “Spider-Man Left Hanging”) and during rehearsals. The show is currently in previews and is expected to open in February (see “Spider-Man Pushed Back”).

[Jeritron]

"The God of Fear" sounds like a really lazy way to make a conflict that has parallels to the current world.

[Lock Jaw]

I remember around the time Batman broke his back there was this really awesome Scarecrow story with him trying to set himself up as the God of Fear.

[parkmania]

Director Joss Whedon will begin principal photography on The Avengers in New Mexico in April and continue through September, according to Variety. Some shooting will also take place in New York and Michigan, according to the report.



The movie (with its all star cast, see “Movie Avengers Assembled”) will open May 4, 2012.

[Nowhere Man]

I remember around the time Batman broke his back there was this really awesome Scarecrow story with him trying to set himself up as the God of Fear.

It still annoys me that Scarecrow didn't get a Sinestro Corps fear-ring until towards the end of Blackest Night.

[LuigiD]

So far, I can't see the event being as ambitious as Civil War with such a shitty premise. However, it is way too early. Maybe as details arrive my mind will be at ease.

[Kalyx triaD]

Early hints at Civil War were literally "Superheroes fight each other, kids will love it." That's a silly premise that turned out awesome.

Anyway, some art from Cap's movie:

http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/8/2010/12/capa-art.jpg

[LuigiD]

That is true. But..I felt Civil War had an awesome concept from the get go. We have all fantasized about who would win between superhero A and B. Maybe I am just not buying this one enough. Like I said, it is very early still and I am sure as details emerge I will be more into it.

[Fignuts]

TheWrap is reporting that despite the negative talk, Jeremy Renner will first appear as Hawkeye in a cameo in the Kenneth Branagh-directed "Thor."

Renner has flip-flopped about Hawkeye's appearance and has said in many interviews that he can see Hawkeye appearing in "Thor" before "The Avengers."

"If I was a betting man, I would bet that Hawkeye would probably show up in "Thor," and then be in 'The Avengers." "But do I know for sure? I can’t say. But I’d love for that to happen. It’d be fun."

But later, Renner also denied that we would see Hawkeye in "Thor" before "The Avengers."

"That was just one of those things that got blown way out of proportion," "OK, we may throw him in 'Thor,' we may not, as a cameo. You know what I mean? So there’s truth that we talked about it, but there’s no truth to me doing it."

TheWrap has been told that Renner's Hawkeye appears in the film, but would not elaborate on the context of the character's appearance or when it will occur.

Didn't think it was possible for thor to look any more awesome, but it just did.

[Kalyx triaD]

CNN reports that Stan Lee will get his star on Hollywood's Walk of Fame on Tuesday, a week after his 88th birthday. Here are some clips from the article:

Lee jokingly asked why he had to wait 50 years after the first star was awarded and 70 years after his comic book career began.

"I'll talk to somebody about that," Lee told CNN.

Lee's characters include Spider-Man, The Incredible Hulk, X-Men, The Fantastic Four, Iron Man, Daredevil, The Avengers, Silver Surfer and Dr. Strange.

"I'm pretty proud of the fact that some of the stories I wrote so many years ago are still being read and hopefully enjoyed by the public and people are making motion pictures based on them, and television series and even a Broadway show," Lee said.

His favorite creation is Spider-Man "because he's the most popular and he's known and loved worldwide," he said. "But I really loved them all and whichever one I was writing at the moment, that was my favorite."

The movies based on Lee's comic books "have done so much for the characters" by giving them glamour and prestige, he said.

"When they were in comic books, they were still read all over the world and pretty well-known all over the world, but they didn't have, you might say, the respect that they have now because of movies," he said.

[Rammsteinmad]

88! Fuck me that guy still has the enthusiam of a ten year old in a toy shop! Good for him. :y:

[Jeritron]

Stan Lee lives up to his nickname. The man.

[Blitz]

Peter and Gwen

http://cdn.buzznet.com/media/jj1/2011/01/garfield-stone/andrew-garfield-emma-stone-spidey-gwen-01.jpg

[Lock Jaw]

Dude who is playing Peter has an oddly shaped head/face.

Also looking mighty hobo with those gloves.

[Kalyx triaD]

Perfect.

[Sixx]

He has a HUGE head and a small face to go with it.

Odd.

[parkmania]

After he leaves the Spidey franchise, dude could be the next Goku.

[Rammsteinmad]

Pretty sure Parker's hair was never that wild.

Fuck it, I'm still bitter that they're rebooting it 4 years after the original trilogy ended. :foc:

[Blitz]

Parker looks like a good approximation of what a "nerd" looks like nowadays.

[Boondock Saint]

Nothing about this Spider-Man movie sounds good at all.

[Kalyx triaD]

Perhaps you aren't reading the news right.

[Jeritron]

What was the good news?

I'm obviously there, but the casting isn't really enough to get me stoked. Parker and Gwen are pretty good casting.
I think they went weird directions with the adults so far, but we shall see.
What else has been announced?

I'm very curious to see the costume

[Jeritron]

I think the most disappointing news I've heard thus far is that they're taking it back to high school/origins.
Obviously I love the Spidey origin story, but even if it's told slightly different (Ultimates), it's still another telling of Spidey's origins in under 10 years. That feels uncalled for, especially since Raimi nailed that.

Personally I would have liked them to go later into his life.

[Kalyx triaD]

I have a feeling the costume will be the same as the Raimi suit. Don't know why.

[Jeritron]

Well, it should obviously be similar since there's only far you can go from the actual costume on screen.
I feel like they could change some things though. The texture, the shape of the eyes, and the webbing.
I loved the Raimi suit, but I wouldn't mind seeing them make the red and blue brighter, the eyes bigger, and the webbing darker. Go further towards the comic booky look.
I bet they'll make it darker though. Everything in Hollywood needs to be "darker" now.

[Fignuts]

Would love the mcfarlane eyes.

[Jeritron]

McFarlane Spidey is my favorite Spidey

[Jeritron]

That's probably part of why I want to see later in Parker's life covered in the movies. Some of the more mature years with his villains, and romantic interests.

I fully understand why they aren't though. The high school stuff, and the scientist villains make more cash. Eventually, maybe.

[Jeritron]

http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/70marvelpanel40.JPG

[Sixx]

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:xRChDBOz4MGWbM:http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTI2MjU3ODM0Nl5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTYwMTA4OTI2._V1._SX450_SY302_.jpg&t=1

[Sixx]

http://www.prenzlberglive.de/Videothek/Fantasy/ComicHelden/SpiderOld03.jpg

[Sixx]

Ahaha, I remember that "wallclimbing" shots:

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:wE-g69BVh8E2MM:http://www.cedmagic.com/featured/spider-man/climbing-wall-1648.jpg&t=1

[Miotch]

http://unrealitymag.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/fat-spiderman.jpg

[Sixx]

http://unrealitymag.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/fat-spiderman.jpg

That's most certainly Xero.

[Jeritron]

Nice utility belt on the 70s tv Spidey

[Miotch]

That fat Spidey is actually this guy in Madrid. We saw him 'perform'. He takes a break every 20 minutes where he lifts the bottom of his mask up and smokes a cigarette. He has all these hilarious poses, and probably makes close to 50 euro an hour.

[Lock Jaw]

Japanese Spidey was the best

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[Sixx]

I looked up that Madrid Spiderman.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4101/4756792339_6ea8ab5c43.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3466/3723625349_8f4775ff43.jpg
http://www.nomadicmatt.com/images/madrid7.jpg

Also:
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[Lock Jaw]

I hope Spidey has a giant robot in this upcoming reboot.

[Miotch]

I looked up that Madrid Spiderman.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4101/4756792339_6ea8ab5c43.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3466/3723625349_8f4775ff43.jpg
http://www.nomadicmatt.com/images/madrid7.jpg

Also:
<object width="480" height="385">


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The guy makes fucking bank. Seriously. Also the costume is way faded now.

[Confused]

Tis' a dream but a Spider-man 2099 movie would be absolutely fantastic.

Besides the early Ultimate Spider-man it was the last Spider-man comic I really enjoyed.

[parkmania]

Tis' a dream but a Spider-man 2099 movie would be absolutely fantastic.

Besides the early Ultimate Spider-man it was the last Spider-man comic I really enjoyed.

This. Absolutely this. I have every 2099 comic that came out - even though I was hopeful they would never have brought out a X-Men 2099.

Doom 2099 was probably my favorite.

[Confused]

Shame it will never happen.

Wasn't Doom 2099 written by Warren Ellis? great writer.

Must look about getting some of the 2099 trades, if they exist.

[parkmania]

I don't know if they exist or not - I was in college/just out at the time and bought the issues as they came out. I think I have to go down to the basement and drag a few issues out after the kid goes to bed tonight.

[Confused]

I remember looking for the Spider-man 2099 trades a few years back, they weren't available then.

All the issues I had were in UK reprint mags and have long since gone missing. We moved house when I was about 17 and nearly my entire collection went missing!

[Lock Jaw]

They have one Spider-Man 2099 and one X-Men 2099 trade out. I think they brought them out to go with that Timestorm 2009/2099 story they did last year.

[Kalyx triaD]

http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/8/2011/01/500x_cosmiccub.jpg

[Kalyx triaD]

My pal Avi Arad, producer of the new Spider-Man movie, called to tell me how excited he is about the film. Then came the surprise - Avi told me my cameo is all set for Spidey 4, and when he described it, I realized it's the best, most unusual one yet! I wish I could tell you what my cameo is, but that would kill the surprise. But I'll tell you this much-I'm finally in an action scene! Since it's common knowledge that people go to the movies just to see my cameos, I don't know why EVERY movie doesn't have one for me. After we save the world, our next mission will be to convince Hollywood to have an Oscar for Best Cameo. Till then-Excelsior!

[Rammsteinmad]

http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/8/2011/01/500x_cosmiccub.jpg

Cosmic Cube? Niiiiiiiice.

[Rammsteinmad]

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:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[Blitz]

http://s3.amazonaws.com/coolproduction/ckeditor_assets/pictures/213/original/SpideyGarfieldsm.jpg?1294949527

http://s3.amazonaws.com/coolproduction/ckeditor_assets/pictures/215/original/captainamericaew.jpg?1294952112

[Rammsteinmad]

That Cap costume looks fucking epic! Not too keen on the Spidey one. Pretty much the same fabric as the first movie, but looks like they tried to change it a bit for no other reason than to make it different to the original movie costume.

Looks okay I guess. I won't judge anything until I've seen the movie (which will no doubt rock because it's Spider-Man... fucking reboots though :foc: )

[Nowhere Man]

I actually really like the new costume. It looks a little more convincing as something Peter Parker stitched together himself. I do want to see what it looks like with the mask on.

The Cap suit does look really cool as well.

[Kalyx triaD]

The Spidey suit gives off an Ultimate Spidey vibe, I like it so far.

Cap looks like a fucking justice machine ready to put evil down. Love it.

[dronepool]

The Spider-Man and Cap suits are both great.

[Sixx]

Cap's costume looks great.

Spidey's is pretty meh.

[Jeritron]

I'd like the Spidey one more if the emblem wasn't so overly messy/ugly. I get what they're going for, but I think it can look a bit more definied than that patch of grease.

I'm curious to see the mask.

Cap looks great.

[Blitz]

Better look.

http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/110113/Captain-America_510.jpg

Sexy.

[Sixx]

Nice package.

[Rammsteinmad]

Holy shit that looks fucking incredible.

[Jeritron]

Yea that's pretty perfect

[Confused]

Looks good. I think Chris Evans will be fantastic in the role.

In the Spider-man pic, does he have mechanical web-slingers or are they sticking to organic?

[Nowhere Man]

I've seen some blown-up closeups of Spidey's hands, and he's got the mechanical web-shooters this time around.

[Lock Jaw]

I'd like the Spidey one more if the emblem wasn't so overly messy/ugly. I get what they're going for, but I think it can look a bit more definied than that patch of grease.

I think he is "battle damaged" in that pic too. Emblem almost looks like it is coming off.

[Fignuts]

Cap looks fucking amazing.

Spidey looks alright, but like superman, I don't think there is any reason to change his costume outside of story purposes.

[Jeritron]

I think one of the reasons people think Spidey looks so thin is because of the lack of the red around the waist.

I don't know why they'd get rid of that, other than to just simplify. The webbing on the red seems very minimal. I wonder what that will mean for the mask. I hope the mask isn't just a red hood with eyes and grooved but not colored webbing.
It might be, based on the shoulder webbing.

[dronepool]

http://i52.tinypic.com/33afio8.jpg

[Kalyx triaD]

http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/8/2011/01/x-men.jpg

From left to right: Michael Fassbender (Magneto), Rose Byrne (Moira MacTaggert), January Jones (Emma Frost), Jason Flemyng (Azazel), Nicholas Hoult (Beast), Lucas Till (Havok), Zoe Kravitz (Angel), Jennifer Lawrence (Mystique), and James McAvoy (Professor Charles Xavier).

[Possibly fake]

[Jeritron]

Looks fake. I hope it is

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Agreed - hope it's a fake. Looks terrible for an X movie. Looks like the Mutant X show... which is not a good sign..

[Sixx]

Emma Frost in bra and panties. Yeah, it sure as fuck is real.

EDIT: Ok, those are not panties. Still.

[Fignuts]

Ridiculously fake, come on.

Also original webshooters confirmed, for spidey. Emma Stone let the cat out of the bag, and you can actually see them in that photo up there.

[LuigiD]

Nightcrawler looks like he has a Kofi Kingston hair style in that picture.

[Fignuts]

It's not nightcrawler.

[Sixx]

It's Henry McCoy. Probably why he's in the back, as just painting him blue doesn't make a good photoshop.

[Kalyx triaD]

Hate web shooters.

[Kalyx triaD]

http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/8/2011/01/thor1.jpg

[dronepool]

First Class already sounded stupid, that "fake picture" makes it worse.



http://i56.tinypic.com/2jaxp9d.jpg

[Funky Fly]

I've seen that. Pretty bad, but worth seeing if you're a fan of the extended X-Family.

[Rammsteinmad]

I have the DVD of this film. :D

[Kalyx triaD]

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If you can't web swing you gotta do something, I guess.

Also, that First Class pic is legit. Hi res versions should hit this week.

[parkmania]

Angel is NOT a FEMALE!

Therefore, fake.

[Kalyx triaD]

Dude... it's been confirmed real...

[parkmania]

OK, imdb confirms that Zoe Kravitz is playing Angel Salvadore, not Warren Worthington/Angel. So that's a BIG difference.

But the character bio is basically the same creation story as WW's, so I'm not a happy camper.

[Kalyx triaD]

Hi res official shot of the new (old?) X-Men:

http://moviesmedia.ign.com/movies/image/article/114/1144355/XFC_Lineup_BB_9xW_w2.0_1295464371.jpg

[Rammsteinmad]

I'm sure this is an old topic, but whatever... is First Class a reboot? Or a prequel of the original trilogy? And has it been confirmed whether or not this is coming off of the Wolverine movie or has this branched out to it's own X-Movie-Universe.

Fuck, the whole situation is fucked up. Why is Mystique an X-Man here? The make-up looks identical to the Mystique from the original trilogy, but nobody ever mentioned her being a former X-Men in those films.

And to be honest these costumes look prety crap (though I'll decide properly when I see the whole things).

Fucking reboots. :foc:

[Kalyx triaD]

Prequel/Reboot/Clusterfuckjustbuyticketsemmafrostisinlingerie

I don't care about X-continuity anymore (neither does Fox), I'm game for whatever.

[Miotch]

A google image search reveals that Emma Frost is very often in lingerie. What's your problem with that?

[Kalyx triaD]

None whatsoever. In fact that's my favorite portion of the pic.

I was just being 'silly'.

[Miotch]

Would love to see Moira and Emma in a lesbian scene.

[Kalyx triaD]

Some guys in the forum would call you sexist for that. Not me, though.

[Shadow]

Angel is NOT a FEMALE!

Therefore, fake.

Different Angel tard.

[parkmania]

Different Angel tard.

OK, imdb confirms that Zoe Kravitz is playing Angel Salvadore, not Warren Worthington/Angel. So that's a BIG difference.

But the character bio is basically the same creation story as WW's, so I'm not a happy camper.

Thanks. I figured that out hours before your post, tard.

[LuigiD]

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/images/uploads/kevin-bacon-and-january-jones-xmen-first-class1.jpg
There is one thing I like and one thing I dislike about this photo.

[Kalyx triaD]

He's gonna get her foot loose.

[Fignuts]

Looks 70's-ish. Which would suggest it's not a reboot. Then again Emma Frost is old. Which suggests that it is a reboot.

[Blitz]

http://bitcast-a-sm.bitgravity.com/slashfilm/wp/wp-content/images/ZZ329CBE2E-550x366.jpg

http://bitcast-a-sm.bitgravity.com/slashfilm/wp/wp-content/images/ZZ3231E640-550x366.jpg

[Shadow]

Thanks. I figured that out hours before your post, tard.

I barely read your posts as it is. So fucking bite me.

[McLegend]

Are these pictures seriously serious?

[Kalyx triaD]

Magneto's looking... yeah.

[Fignuts]

ahahahahahahahahahaha

Look at how big magneto's head looks. He's like a bobble head.

[Kalyx triaD]

I'm sure there's a perfectly rational explanation for that terrible Magneto pic.

[Kalyx triaD]

Marvel Studios has hired Mark Bailey to write the script for The Black Panther, reports Heat Vision.

Bailey hails from the documentary film world and his credits include HBO documentaries such as "Pandemic: Facing AIDS" and "Ghost of Abu Ghraib." The trade says his latest project is a feature adaptation of the non-fiction book "The Last of the Tribe: The Epic Quest to Save a Lone Man in the Amazon," to which Doug Liman is attached to direct.

The Black Panther first appeared in the pages of the "Fantastic Four" comic in 1966. The character is the king of a resource-rich fictional African country who becomes a superhero.

Marvel Studios' Kevin Feige is producing.

Do this after Wesley Snipes goes to jail. Great.

[Kalyx triaD]

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[Kalyx triaD]

Better Pics of X-Men Origins: X-Men

http://latimesherocomplex.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/x-men-first-class-cast.jpg?w=600&h=376
http://latimesherocomplex.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/james-mcavoy-and-michael-fassbinder-x-men-first-class.jpg?w=600&h=400

[Lock Jaw]

Raising your eyebrow = telepathy

[Fignuts]

Do this after Wesley Snipes goes to jail. Great.

hmmmm, I don't think snipes would be a good fit honestly. BP has a regal air about him that I'm not sure snipes could pull off. He's like the good guy version of Dr. Doom.

I think a lot of people immediately think of snipes because he's black, and he's a martial artist. You don't even need some amazing martial artist for the role, as all the really cool stuff he'll be doing will be under the mask. You could put anyone under there for that.

[Kalyx triaD]

I miss Blade. Saw Blade II on netflix last night. Awesome.

[Nowhere Man]

Heh, Magneto looks ridiculous. Seriously, he looks like a parody of himself, like that's how he'd appear if he showed up in the next Scary Movie spinoff.

[Sixx]

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/images/uploads/kevin-bacon-and-january-jones-xmen-first-class1.jpg
There is one thing I like and one thing I dislike about this photo.

You can't tell me you don't like bacon.

[Rammsteinmad]

http://bitcast-a-sm.bitgravity.com/slashfilm/wp/wp-content/images/ZZ329CBE2E-550x366.jpg

Oh God, seriously I burst out laughing when I saw this.

[Rammsteinmad]

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This looks like footage of someone just dressing up as Spider-Man and running out into the streets lol. Not really liking the costume though. Hopefully it'll come across better on the actual screen.

[Reavant]

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that looks weird, I mean I know that they dont always shoot films in the cities they are supposed to take place in, but everything in the entire setting just looks like California with the wide streets and even the building style. The only thing they did was put nypd on the cop cars....


i dunno maybe its nothing, but i think this movie is gonna suck

[Kalyx triaD]

Based on the number of lanes in a street or...

[Kalyx triaD]

http://cache-03.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/8/2011/01/first_class.jpg

[Reavant]

Based on the number of lanes in a street or...

it just looks like a mismatch... your supposed to be in ny and everything looks like ur in cali. It just looks weird

when watching that video i thought of a guy running down the street in la and then i saw the cop cars and was like wtf?

and not just the streets but also the surrounding buildings

[Optimus Bone 69]

These look terrible just terrible, i hope im wrong though

[Lock Jaw]

it just looks like a mismatch... your supposed to be in ny and everything looks like ur in cali. It just looks weird

when watching that video i thought of a guy running down the street in la and then i saw the cop cars and was like wtf?

and not just the streets but also the surrounding buildings

Makes no difference to someone who isn't familiar with the look/architecture of either city.

[Rammsteinmad]

Y'know, this Spider-Man film and this X-Men film, this is the first time I've ever NOT been excited about a Marvel movie.

I was even pumped for Elektra (which I enjoyed). But these films have really done nothing for me.

Right now, I literally cream myself over any updates on Thor, Captain America and the Avengers, and then we get X-Men and Spidey pics etc and I'm just like 'urgh'.

No doubt I'll see them in the cinema, buy the DVD for the collection, and probably enjoy the films anyway (hey, I enjoyed Elektra!!!), but right now, hype, excitement, anticipation etc. It's not there.

[Kalyx triaD]

I get that vibe, too. You know what I think it is (well for me anyway)? I'm just tired of the old Sony-owned/Fox-owned posture of Spidey and X-Men. What's going on with the Avengers is 100% more interesting to me and I feel like I'm 'witnessing' something before my eyes. Spidey reboot and X-Men 0 just seem so... Hollywood by comparison. They're even created for the same reasons, some perceived failure of the last trilogy finales, and they wanna start over like that's always a better idea.

But yeah mostly it's the whole Spidey's over here, X-Men's over there thing. I remember even saying if they're going for these kinds of reboots Marvel should just reacquire them and assimilate them in the new movie-verse. It doesn't need to be cross-over mania at the start - but imagine a post-credits scene after Avengers where Sam Jackson is explaining the superteam to a shadowy figure sitting across from him. The camera pans and we see Hugh Jackman smoking a cigar and turning the offer down, "I already have a team." Sam would be like, "They won't be enough for what's coming." Cut to black. Boom. There you go. More hype than Magneto in that silly helmet above, I tell you what.

/rant

[Kalyx triaD]

http://splashpage.mtv.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/spider-man-575.jpg

[Corporate CockSnogger]

That looks like an action figure.

[Nowhere Man]

I'm assuming it'll look better on film with the proper lighting and everything. And yeah, that does look a little goofy, but I think a lot of that has to do with the fact that it's not a very Spidey-like pose.

[Kalyx triaD]

They could have at least adopted Ben Reily's Spidey suit (which may or may not have raised drama). That suit above just isn't a good suit, as far as all the suits compared goes.

[Kalyx triaD]

The design on the gloves seem to allude to a much cooler suit, but what we have is something seemingly unfinished. Look at the red that usually connects the glove and shoulder; why is it thinned out like that? They repeat this with the leg lining and it doesn't look attractive. And the red on the chest kinda falls down the midsection to nowhere, looking very awky without a 'belt' area.

I'm not one of those clowns who hate any change to superhero suits, I was probably the only guy who embraced the Superman Returns suit right off the bat, but this Spidey suit is rubbing me the wrong way. I don't think it looked good on paper either.

But yeah good lighting, poses, and and angles can make anything look great.

[loopydate]

Better Pics of X-Men Origins: X-Men

http://latimesherocomplex.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/x-men-first-class-cast.jpg?w=600&h=376
http://latimesherocomplex.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/james-mcavoy-and-michael-fassbinder-x-men-first-class.jpg?w=600&h=400

I'm not sure better is the right word...

[McLegend]

Not as bad?

[Kalyx triaD]

Those pics are fine.

[loopydate]

It's people standing around.

[Kalyx triaD]

Hmm...

[Blitz]

I like the new Spidey suit. I know this is stupid to say about a superhero flick, but it looks more realistic to me. Like the smaller eyes too.

[DaBrasko]

I went on Superherohype.com and the fan boys are even ripping apart Caps costume. Haters gonna hate I guess.

[Rammsteinmad]

See now that's retarded. Caps costume is incredible.

[Jeritron]

Everything on this page traumatized me. Cap's suit is great, but that's on the page before.

Also, to respond to something being discussed earlier: Spider-Man seeming like it's in NYC is very important, I think.

The new Spidey suit really just looks awful. I know that's a stunt suit, and will look "better", but I really don't like the pattern or look at all.

In general I agree that I'm just not excited for Spidey or X-Men at all this time around. With Spidey, I have interest because I love the character and world so much.

But I'm also not too enthusiastic to see them revisit his origins and youth, and try to improve.
I have next to no interest in seeing another take on Ben & Mae or the Daily Bugle already.

X-Men I just don't know what to say about. I'm almost floored by how poor the pictures look.
It doesn't make any sense to me, since Matthew Vaughn is such a talented guy and so keen on the material. I hope he really brings it together and makes a good movie, but just based on all of the creative and visual decisions I've seen so far, I'm stumped.
He was pretty vocal about how horrible he thought X3 was, so he's all-in here.

I didn't have high hopes for another X-Men movie at all, after X3 and Wolverine, but I thought Mathew Vaughn would at least provide some glimmer of hope

[Rammsteinmad]

Personally I loved Spider-Man 3 and X-Men 3. Both films made up for perfect trilogys. Wolverine was awesome too, but for reason I tend not to think of that as a part of the X-Men trilogy.

Anyways, despite both movies third outings getting shit loads of criticisms, I still think they were great, and don't see why they've had to reboot both series so soon.

Like Jeritron said, now we have to go through Ben Parkers death again, the spider bite, the wrestling scenes etc. Likewise with X-Men, which is just kind of a huge clusterfuck anyway, and I'm assuming Magneto will be the bad guy again? I mean after X-Men 3 surely they could have used any excuse to bring the team back again, and then faced against someone like Apocalypse.

Both film series in my opinion were perfectly cast. Especially X-Men. Now they've gone and thrown in all these youngsters whom I've never heard of, but are doubt rising up the ranks with Twilight or whatever those dancing movies are called.

Seriously, I'll get the DVDs regardless coz I'm a comic freak, and to be fair once I've seen the films I'll probably enjoy them (I am very easily amused with films), but right now I don't give a fuck about either of these films. And I've yet to see a single photo that has impressed me.

[Lara Emily]

Ridiculously fake, come on.

Also original webshooters confirmed, for spidey. Emma Stone let the cat out of the bag, and you can actually see them in that photo up there.


Sweet mechanical is awesome, I always hated the biological thing, the science nerd aspect of Peter Parker was sorely missing from the Raimi trilogy

[Lara Emily]

Better Pics of X-Men Origins: X-Men

http://latimesherocomplex.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/x-men-first-class-cast.jpg?w=600&h=376


LOL this looks like X-men if it was done by the BBC

[Fignuts]

Sweet mechanical is awesome, I always hated the biological thing, the science nerd aspect of Peter Parker was sorely missing from the Raimi trilogy

To be fair, the organic web shooters did make more sense.

[Kalyx triaD]

Organic shooters are way better. He gets bit by a radioactive spider, crawls on walls, gets spider-sense, 'kinda' super strength, crazy agility... and then he has to make his own web shooters? I mean in a comic book reality sort of way, you'd think shooting webs would be part of the package.

[dronepool]

The organic make sense but I prefer the science aspect of the web shooter. Peter inventing stuff was one the things that made him cool.

[Kalyx triaD]

He can still do that without having to make web shooters. I personally like the 'specialized suit' gimmick. He always had a 'middle-class Tony Stark' side about him. That's all good.

But organic webs ftw.

[Lock Jaw]

But with web shooters he gets to go "I'm all out of web fluid!" every other time he fights a bad guy.

[Lara Emily]

But with web shooters he gets to go "I'm all out of web fluid!" every other time he fights a bad guy.

I kinda missed that forced drama. It kinda worked though and created some cool moments where Spidey had to figure out alternate ways to fight the guy.

[Lara Emily]

Organic shooters are way better. He gets bit by a radioactive spider, crawls on walls, gets spider-sense, 'kinda' super strength, crazy agility... and then he has to make his own web shooters? I mean in a comic book reality sort of way, you'd think shooting webs would be part of the package.

I don't know everything you listed was essentially enhancements to his human body whereas web shooters would require glands to grow and shit which is on a whole different level.Either or are fine, I just like the science based cause to me it's cooler and fits with Parker's character.

[Kalyx triaD]

Fine, he grows glands. Is that really a different level? Like... after Peter would tell you about climbing walls and his spider-sense and stronger body, would you hear about the web glands and go, "Wait what!? Now that's crazy!" C'mon.

[Lock Jaw]

I kinda missed that forced drama. It kinda worked though and created some cool moments where Spidey had to figure out alternate ways to fight the guy.

Yeah, it isn't bad. I'm just poking fun at the 90s cartoon where he seemed to always run out of web fluid at alarming rates and at the most inconvenient times.

[Kalyx triaD]

ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: How would you describe First Class to the uninitiated?

MATTHEW VAUGHN: The best way of describing it is X-Men meets Bond, with a little bit of Thirteen Days thrown in for good measure. It’s set in the ’60s, and I basically molded a young Magneto on a young Sean Connery. He’s the ultimate spy — imagine Bond, but with superpowers.

If Magneto is Bond, then what about Charles Xavier?

You’re seeing Xavier become a professor. For me, Magneto is the good guy in the film, but he’s a sort of a good bad guy. He literally kicks off the movie, and Xavier goes along on the ride trying to figure out what the hell is going on, and trying to persuade Erik that you don’t have to kill everyone.

I know you’re under tight restrictions about what you can reveal regarding the plot, but, well, what else can you say?

In the beginning of the film, no one knows that mutants exist, and all the mutants don’t know that each other exist. They’re all in hiding. Kevin Bacon plays a very megalomaniac mutant [Sebastian Shaw] who decides that he can take over the world and that mutants are the future. Erik and Charles then meet each other and hook up with the CIA to try and prevent World War III. You find out everything about what went on between Erik and Charles.

And there are flashbacks with Erik and Charles as young children?

They’re not flashbacks — we start there. It starts in 1942, and then works its way up to 1962.

Did you have any concerns about how, no matter what you do, you may anger some of the die-hard fans?

Yeah, but I could tell those fans that they’re wrong. One thing about the X-Men world is that, if you know your X-Men universe, every writer reinvented the storyline. I did my research, and none of the histories of the characters make any sense. Each writer just totally changed the history to make their plot work. So I can quite safely say that X-Men has a history of reinventing its history for the sake of the plot.

Is the movie related at all to the First Class comics?

Not really. There are a lot of nods to the X-Men world and the X-Men movies, but it’s definitely its own beast.

You were going to direct X-Men: The Last Stand and then dropped out two months before filming started. The story is that you thought you weren’t going to have enough time to see your vision through…

That’s true. It was as simple as that. In retrospect, I probably would have had more time then than I do now, which is highly ironic. But I also have more experience now than I did then. And I had no idea how big-budget filmmaking worked, so I was just applying small-budget independent-style logic to the wrong equation. And when I saw the film, I realized that Fox would have given me all the tools I needed. I was just stupid enough not to take them. But we both decided to cross the bridge together again. I definitely had burned a bridge. But they asked, so we met and we both kissed and made up and went off to make the film.

How did you settle on James McAvoy and Michael Fassbender as Professor X and Magneto, respectively?

Professor X is a very hard character to cast. Out of all the characters, he’s the dullest if you really think about it. He’ll be in a wheelchair eventually, and he’s sort of a sanctimonious preacher half of the time. Patrick Stewart brought so much to that role, and I needed to get an actor who could do the same — who could give him a fourth dimension that’d make him sparkle. James was literally at the top of the list, and he said yes, so I got my first actor very quickly.

Magneto was a juicier role. I’ve been watching Fassbender for a long time, and I knew the guy was going to pop as a movie star. He read it and knocked it out of the park, and the rest of the cast just fell in around them. What makes me laugh is, by this time next year, half of my cast is going to be extremely popular and famous. Jennifer Lawrence [i.e. Raven Darkholme/Mystique] is going to pop. Nicholas Hoult [i.e. Hank McCoy/Beast] definitely is. People are going to find Kevin Bacon a revelation, and January Jones [i.e. Emma Frost] has got huge star potential.

And, please, one more story tease?

It’s got a lot of teenage angst. The Twilight girls will like it.

[Sixx]

Twilight girls will like it. Does not sound good.

Also, I want to see a pic of Bacon as Shaw really bad.

[Kalyx triaD]

There's some Bacon action in the last few pages somewhere.

[Sixx]

What?

That can't be, been reading this thread regularly recently.

And when I google Kevin Bacon Sebastian Shaw I only get pics comparing Bacon to the comic book Sebastian Shaw.

[Sixx]

Oh, ok. Found it, his haircut looks stupid.

Just looks like Bacon, not Sebastian Shaw.

[Kalyx triaD]

Which works for me.

[Lara Emily]

Fine, he grows glands. Is that really a different level? Like... after Peter would tell you about climbing walls and his spider-sense and stronger body, would you hear about the web glands and go, "Wait what!? Now that's crazy!" C'mon.

But if he grew glands why did he not grow other spider features, why did his eyes stay the same etc...

[Kalyx triaD]

I'll go refer to the radioactive spider venom text book...

[Kalyx triaD]

...It says Lara should stop nitpicking a perfectly fine retcon. Page 1, actually.

[Lara Emily]

Whatever, science element just adds something to the character. The mutation aspect didn't ruin Spider-Man or anything , I just like that they went back to the original source.

[Rammsteinmad]

Wow, this X-Men film sounds awful. It's a bunch of terrible Twilight actors thrown into a 60's Bond movie, with teenage angst and mutant powers that girls are going to love. Fucking awesome!

Also, I seriously doubt the cast of First Class will do anything near as good as the original. 'Xavier is a hard guy to cast', fuck this guy playing Xavier, I have no idea who he is, but I'm guessing he was in Twilight or Harry Potter or Step Up or some crappy kids movie or another. Patrick Stewart was Charles Xavier before casting for those films even began. This guy is a flavour of the month nobody.

FUCK I'm so angry at how bad this film looks.

I'll still get the DVD though. :foc:

[Kalyx triaD]

Don't think this has Twilight actors.

[Rammsteinmad]

I didn't mean that literally.

[Sixx]

The kid playing Xavier was in a movie with Angelina Jolie about making bullets turn directions with the power of your will!

Never seen it, but judging by the plot it has GOT the be a classic.

[dronepool]

I'll still get the DVD though. :foc:

At least buy it used :lol:

[Kalyx triaD]

So we're all agreed that they should have went with X4, eh?

[Lara Emily]

yup

[Kalyx triaD]

I remember dreaming up a possible X4 where Gambit would be the new lead. Somebody here didn't like that, don't remember who.

[LuigiD]

Jesus..I actually got excited for this movie for a little bit the moment the screenshots and more details came up..my worst fears came to life. I fucking knew if they did a First Class movie they were going to have to appeal to the stupid ass teen Twilight audience in some way.

[Lara Emily]

I remember dreaming up a possible X4 where Gambit would be the new lead. Somebody here didn't like that, don't remember who.


I don't remember, doubt it was me but I'd agree with that person

That would be absolutely terrible. Like I mean probably the worse than First Class, mostly because a) Gambit isn't a leader type and b) Gambit is probably the single most overrated character in comic book history and a huge metaphor for everything that sucked about 90s X-men. Though I will admit I have a huge bias towards 1980s Chris Clairmont X-men.

[Kalyx triaD]

Well your first contention can and was used against Wolverine and here we are with a (mostly) successful movie franchise a decade later. There's no reason to think Gambit couldn't have been fitted into the main role - especially played by somebody like Josh Holloway. Wolverine wasn't considered a good lead until Hugh Jackman filled out his movie version. Saying he isn't a leader type is almost moot.

Overrated? I don't know about all that. He's a total badass with destructive power yet a cool demeanor. Sure he seems obviously designed to be 'cool' but that's most comic characters to begin with. I wouldn't say one of the most underused X-Men is the most "overrated in history", though.

He could have definitely headlined a fourth movie while Hugh was off doing Wolverine solos.

[Kalyx triaD]

And he would have came at a sweet opportunity to have some interaction with Rogue, who's powers would have certainly returned in my vision of the movie. She was initially attached to Wolverine a bit, goes out with nice guy, breaks up with nice guy, and now meets this new rebel dude who reminds her of her brief father figure. He could even get Rogue to loosen up a bit and *gasp* behave closer to her flirtatious comic book version!

My X4 would have been dope, homey.

[Sixx]

There's a joke about superhero tights and Lara's crotch here somewhere.

[Lara Emily]

Well your first contention can and was used against Wolverine and here we are with a (mostly) successful movie franchise a decade later. There's no reason to think Gambit couldn't have been fitted into the main role - especially played by somebody like Josh Holloway. Wolverine wasn't considered a good lead until Hugh Jackman filled out his movie version. Saying he isn't a leader type is almost moot.

Overrated? I don't know about all that. He's a total badass with destructive power yet a cool demeanor. Sure he seems obviously designed to be 'cool' but that's most comic characters to begin with. I wouldn't say one of the most underused X-Men is the most "overrated in history", though.

He could have definitely headlined a fourth movie while Hugh was off doing Wolverine solos.

Wolverine's also a terrible leader and he was a star but never a leader in the X-movies until half way through 3, ya know the one everyone hates (I enjoyed it on same levels but iwasn't because Wolverine was in charge)

Gambit doesn't have the same history or casual recognition. When I say he's overrated I mean by a lot of comic book fnsw not the general public. BTW the fact that you think Gambit, one of the most underused characters in your own words, should somehow lead the X-men is exactly what I mean by he's overrated

[Lara Emily]

And he would have came at a sweet opportunity to have some interaction with Rogue, who's powers would have certainly returned in my vision of the movie. She was initially attached to Wolverine a bit, goes out with nice guy, breaks up with nice guy, and now meets this new rebel dude who reminds her of her brief father figure. He could even get Rogue to loosen up a bit and *gasp* behave closer to her flirtatious comic book version!

My X4 would have been dope, homey.

So it becomes the Gambit/Rogue show, aka the 1990s, I'll pass.

[Kalyx triaD]

BTW the fact that you think Gambit, one of the most underused characters in your own words, should somehow lead the X-men is exactly what I mean by he's overrated

What do you think I mean by 'lead', may I ask?

But let's say I'd like him to actually lead the team, I don't see how him being underused hurts the idea. In fact many comic characters go through a period of creative apathy before they become highlighted in something big. But I won't carry this on, you don't seem to like Gambit at all and it isn't my job to change that.

BTW, the 90's X-Men you hate so much? That era is what put X-Men in the mainstream thinks to that little cartoon with all the Gambit/Rogue drama (like there was really a lot of that).

[Lara Emily]

unrelated note am I the only one that doesn't think Thor looks fantastic?

[Kalyx triaD]

A lot of us here liked the trailer.

[McLegend]

I don't think Thor will be good. It looks like it will be entertaining though.

I have tremendously low expectations for Captain America.