Marvel Universe Thread

[Sixx]

He's awesome because they keep you guessing as to whether he is the real deal or not.

Also, as much as I love 616 Thor, he's kind of one dimensional. The Ultimates version is at the very least a more interesting take on the character.

Also, Ultimates 3 is garbage by the way. Takes everything cool about Ultimates, throws it out the window, and basically turns it into a generic 90's team superhero book.

Think I read a few issues of that before I really got into Ultimate Marvel.

Was that the one about: some crazy society led by Reed Richards? Or am I mistakin' that for some other Ultimate Marvel books? Because thaty was pretty bad and made me stay away from UM for quite some time.

[Sixx]

And back to Thor, ok, I gotta agree it's pretty fun with this whole "is he crazy or really a god", but that activist bullshit gets on my nerves. Never met a norse god, but that doesn't seem like shit they'd get into.

[The Destroyer]

Nah Ultimates 3 was the awful one by Jeph Loeb involving terrible stuff that I don't even remember. Think it was the Scarlet Witch getting shot, or something.

[Fignuts]

They get back on track with Ultimate Avengers though.

[Sixx]

Yeah, I found the one I meant.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultimate_Comics:_The_Ultimates

Only entertaining part of this was the Asgardians breaking into a brewery.

[The Destroyer]

Strange since that series is generally regarded to be fairly good, although I've not made it that far yet myself.

[Sixx]

Strange since that series is generally regarded to be fairly good, although I've not made it that far yet myself.

To be fair I only made it to issue 5. Hated it so much I just deleted the rest and didn't bother reading another Ultimate till just now.

[Blonde Moment]

I loved the inital concept of the whole Ultimate line but they shit the bed so badly with it that Spiderman is the only title left i even remotely look at

[loopydate]

Ultimatum is probably the worst thing I've ever read. It's like the comic equivalent of a sociopathic 9-year-old's action figure playtime. "And... and... Then Blob EATS HER! And like 20 people drown over there but we won't show it!"

[DaveBrawl]

So apparently Thor is soon to be replaced by a female Thor.

BY JOSHUA YEHLToday on ABC's The View it was announced by Whoopi Goldberg that Thor will no longer worthy enough to wield his magic hammer Mjolnir, so a new female Thor will be taking his place.
http://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/stg.ign.com/2014/07/THOR-001_cover-720x1093.jpg

“It’s a huge day in the Marvel Universe. Thor, the God of Thunder, he messed up, and he’s no longer worthy to hold that damn hammer of his. For the first time in history, that hammer is being held by a woman. That’s right. Thor is a woman!” Goldberg said.

As to who the new female Thor is, it's hard to say. There's little to go on, as she is masked and is also going by the name Thor. The one detail we've been given is that she was once saved by Thor. But given his Superman-level powers in the Marvel Universe, who hasn't?
http://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/stg.ign.com/2014/07/Thor-001-720x1023.jpg

The debut of this female Thor will see a brand new Thor series launched, which means the end of the current Thor: God of Thunder series by writer Jason Aaron and artist Esad Ribic. Aaron will stay on as the writer of the new Thor series, but rising star Russell Dauterman will now be on art duties. Aaron is adamant about the new Thor's gender not being a gimmick or anything less than the original.

“This is not She-Thor. This is not Lady Thor. This is not Thorita. This is THOR. This is the THOR of the Marvel Universe. But it’s unlike any Thor we’ve ever seen before," Aaron said in a press release.

This new Thor makes for yet another Marvel comic with a female lead. Others include Black Widow, Ms. Marvel, Captain Marvel, Elektra, She-Hulk, and an upcoming Storm comic. The new Thor series will be launching later this year.

What do you think of the new Thor? Who do you think it could be? Let us know in the comments!

[DaveBrawl]

Seems kind of dumb seeing as how Thor was the character's name not the persona's name like they could do with Spiderman. Whatever though, it's Marvel so I'm sure usual Thor will be back by next summer when Avenger's comes around.

[loopydate]

Well, considering that Thor has been a frog and a lizard-alien thing, I don't think a woman is that big a stretch.

[slik]

Huh.

I don't "hate" the idea I just don't understand it. Was Thor selling bad or something?

[Kalyx triaD]

*sigh*

[Fignuts]

Well, considering that Thor has been a frog and a lizard-alien thing, I don't think a woman is that big a stretch.

Thor was transformed into a frog, so still calling him Thor was fine. As for the lizard-alen thing, no one ever called him Thor. He was always Beta Ray Bill, even when he had Mjolnir.

So yeah. Naming her Thor doesn't make sense to me either.

Also, they've already had a female Thor for years. She's called Valkyrie. Dunno why they didn't just give her a series.

Will wait to read tho, as any concept can be good if written well.

[DaveBrawl]

Yeah the concept of the story I have absolutely no problem with, could be very cool, just calling her Thor seems odd.

[DaveBrawl]

I remember years ago when they had Eric Masterson (sp?) replace Thor for whatever reason, I thought that was pretty cool, but again I don't think he was called Thor they gave him some other name.

[Drakul]

Someone just showed me that. I'm not a comic reader so I didn't know if it was breaking news or something. I came here to tell you about it anyway but it's not as new as I thought. http://marvel.com/news/comics/2014/7/15/22875/marvel_proudly_presents_thor

I do know that comics undo things like crazy, though. A character dies "for realsies" but is ressurected by something or someone a few issues later, for example. Male Thor will do something to make up for whatever he did to mess up and be back eventually,

Why the sigh from Kalyx? New character for MvC4. Just 10 more years to wait.

[Kalyx triaD]

I commented on i09 that her keeping the Thor name was very senseless, in that Thor is 'Thor' because that's the name his parents gave him. The hammer gives you the power of Thor, but it doesn't make you Thor. You're just worthy at the time. Essentially they wanted to keep the title on the book for sales.

Bear in mind it's already been mentioned that Valkyrie is essentially Batwoman to Thor's Batman. She could have the hammer without having the name (it could very well be her, though). And what about Lady Sif? She's had way more exposure after two movies and one of the most fun episodes of Agents. Just comes off strange, abrupt, and desperate - sense this is mostly to score points with the SJW/Feminist crowd. Falcon may well take a turn as the new Captain America for similar reasons (though there's more narrative weight to that at least).

So no this doesn't excite me for a new character in a game. She's not gonna last long enough to be in a game anyway. Alt costume DLC fodder, at best.

[Kalyx triaD]

Like the suit, though.

[Kalyx triaD]

http://www.tencentticker.com/projectrooftop/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/20140716-230624-83184383.jpg

I wondered if he'd keep his wings or not. Guess so.

[Kalyx triaD]

http://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/stg.ign.com/2014/07/avengers-now.jpg

At the very least that 'Superior Iron Man' is still Stark.

[Drakul]

I wonder if people will be as pissed about Captain America being black as they are about Thor being a woman.

This looks like it's just an alternate series of comics but the "real" Captain America and Thor will continue. Is that it?

[Kalyx triaD]

No, it's the 616 Universe. These are the replacements for now.

And it's Falcon, he more than earned the title long ago. It makes more sense than a possibly random chick being named Thor. A woman wielding the hammer isn't really an issue (at least for people who aren't assholes).

[Drakul]

Is it 616 as in the devil?

It's hard to tell who is mad because it's a woman and who's mad because they hate change of any kind.

[Kalyx triaD]

Nerdrage can be anything.

616 is the designation for the main Marvel comics universe.

[Drakul]

It's also the real number of the beast. Some ancient king read it and said it must be a mistake and it must actually be three 6's. It always was supposed to be 616.

[DaveBrawl]

I wonder if people will be as pissed about Captain America being black as they are about Thor being a woman.

Only if they change his name from Sam Wilson to Steve Rogers.

[Nowhere Man]

I'm cool with Falcon being Cap-- in fact, I kinda wished that he inherited the mantle back when Rogers died after Civil War.

I do think, though, that this isn't being done as any sort of natural progression of characters or story, and more just a way to garner attention and get pats on the back for being 'so progressive.' Otherwise a black Cap and a female Thor wouldn't be rolling out at the exact same time.

So, it's a good move, but it leaves a bad taste in my mouth because I feel like they're doing it for cynical reasons.

[Kalyx triaD]

It's also the real number of the beast. Some ancient king read it and said it must be a mistake and it must actually be three 6's. It always was supposed to be 616.

You realize I don't believe in that stuff. Interesting trivia, though.

[Kalyx triaD]

Superior Iron Man

http://www.newsarama.com/images/i/000/132/738/original/SUPIM2014001_CinarVariant.jpg?1405605708

Stark's required 'dark side' saga sees him changing his armor to something Apple would approve.

[Sixx]

Blah, was hoping it would be Octavius in that suit.

Anyway, any particular reason stated for that many changes to Marvel characters this year?

[Sixx]

Oh and why is Falcon Cap now?

Rogers dies again?

[Kalyx triaD]

Just a shake up for the Avengers line of books (Avengers NOW) similar to what they did a little while ago across the whole slate. Things may return to normal by the time Avengers 2 drops in theaters.

Most of these changes are coming off the AXIS event. Don't know what happened there, don't think anybody died.

[DaveBrawl]

Apparently the Super Solider Serum is no longer working for Cap and he ages 65 years fairly quickly and thus is unable to be Cap. No idea why this happens though.

[Sixx]

Apparently the Super Solider Serum is no longer working for Cap and he ages 65 years fairly quickly and thus is unable to be Cap. No idea why this happens though.

Yeah, heh, just read that somewhere. Think I'd actually rather him get killed and resurrected again (ok, I know it was suspended animation), cause this stuff just sounds retarded.

[DaveBrawl]

I used to have a run of comics from the 90s with this idea, I think Stark developed a suit or something to keep him going until they found a cure. He didn't really age though.

[Fignuts]

Just a shake up for the Avengers line of books (Avengers NOW) similar to what they did a little while ago across the whole slate. Things may return to normal by the time Avengers 2 drops in theaters.

Most of these changes are coming off the AXIS event. Don't know what happened there, don't think anybody died.

the fuck is AXIS?

I thought Original Sin was the big event this year.

God, I am way behind.

[The Destroyer]

AXIS is yet another big event, coming later in the year. Avengers and X-Men versus the Onslaught-ed up Red Skull, basically.

[Fignuts]

I honestly don't like this Marvel trend, of showing a bunch of new teams and status quos before the event that leads to them even finishes.

[Sepholio]

Is Iron Man being sexed up by GlaDOS in that picture up there!?

[Sepholio]

Oh and the new suit looks freaking awesome IMO.

[Fignuts]

Feel like Iron Man has been changing his armor too much the past few years.

He's had quite a few different armors over the years, but he's always kept them long enough that they become memorable and iconic in their own way. Lately it seems they've been changing him up before I even get a chance to really appreciate the armor.

[Kalyx triaD]

Official MCU film dates:

Phase Two

Guardians of the Galaxy: August 1, 2014
Avengers: Age Of Ultron: May 1, 2015

Phase Three

Ant-Man: July 17, 2015
Captain America 3: May 6, 2016
Untitled Film: July 8, 2016 (Probably Doc Strange)
Untitled Film: May 5, 2017 (Avengers 3? Bear in mind this would be Justice League's year)

Likely Phase Four(!)

Guardians of the Galaxy 2: July 28, 2017
Untitled Film: November 3, 2017 (Almost certainly Thor 3)
Untitled Film: July 6, 2018
Untitled Film: November 2, 2018 (Interesting)
Untitled Film: May 3, 2019 (Civil War if there's a god)

[Lock Jaw]

Why is November 2, 2018 interesting?

[Shadow]

Wait they announced a phase 4?

[Lock Jaw]

They didn't "officially" announce a phase four, but they announced a bunch of movie release dates. Kalyx is just speculating the Phase Three/Phase Four dates.

[Kalyx triaD]

Why is November 2, 2018 interesting?

Aside from Thor, this is outside their usual dates. And I don't think there will be a Thor 4. November is a very 'safe' bet for movies that may not bank in the summer. I'm thinking we'll an outlier like Black Panther or Captain/Ms Marvel here.

[Sixx]

AXIS is yet another big event, coming later in the year. Avengers and X-Men versus the Onslaught-ed up Red Skull, basically.

Yeah, they seem to have a thing for "huge events" lately.

Like "this is the biggest event evah" only to say the exact same thing about the one that comes next.

[Sixx]

I honestly don't like this Marvel trend, of showing a bunch of new teams and status quos before the event that leads to them even finishes.

They sometimes can't even make up their fuckin' mind.

First AXIS preview:

http://x.annihil.us/u/prod/marvel/i/mg/f/f0/537cc8df5ef1f/landscape_xlarge.jpg

Second AXIS preview:

http://i1341.photobucket.com/albums/o748/alex_jones10/42555196-b2f8-4c61-b101-ef739e8926e1_zpsfae9520a.jpg

[Kalyx triaD]

They switched Green for Hob, what?

[Sixx]

They switched Green for Hob, what?

Yup.

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2014/06/17/rick-remender-and-tom-brevoort-tease-marvels-axis-event

Sharp-eyed fans will notice that the first AXIS teaser showed the Green Goblin, but in the latest version he is now colored as the Hobgoblin. IGN asked for clarification and Brevoort said that Green Goblin was originally going to be in the story, but the character will be too tied up in what’s happening in Spider-Man’s comic to participate. Remender said that Hobgoblin works just as well to fill the spot of a Spider-Man enemy

"Works just as well"...

[Fignuts]

If they have Hobgoblin, then what's Carnage doing there?

[Sixx]

If they have Hobgoblin, then what's Carnage doing there?

Huh?

As in "why 2 Spiderman villains"?

[slik]

What's the deal with Red Skull's costume? He looks like Magneto Skull.

[DaveBrawl]

In a way that's correct.

Not sure of all of the details, but he has the power of Onslaught which was Prof. X and Magneto's subconscious together if I remember correctly.

[Sixx]

In a way that's correct.

Not sure of all of the details, but he has the power of Onslaught which was Prof. X and Magneto's subconscious together if I remember correctly.

Should be in a wheelchair, too.

[slik]

So he is now like a universal level threat?

Wasn't Onslaught supposed to be like Thanos/Galactus levels of danger?

[Sixx]

Yeah, he was.

They're trying to one-up themselves again and again with those new super powerful villains.

[Kalyx triaD]

I always found Onslaught kinda goofy. Badass costume, sure, but he was overpowered for the sake of being overpowered. And he didn't really pan out anyway. Made for a cool boss in one of those Marvel Vs games, though.

[Sixx]

I always found Onslaught kinda goofy. Badass costume, sure, but he was overpowered for the sake of being overpowered. And he didn't really pan out anyway. Made for a cool boss in one of those Marvel Vs games, though.

I remember that game. It was the first time I've ever seen Onslaught and I was like "what the fuck happenned to Magneto?"

[Fignuts]

I don't think anyone thought Onslaught was cool outside of his look. He could have been cool if he really was Prof. X driven insane, like he seemed to be at first. But then it turned all gay with the explanation of what it was.

[Fignuts]

Marvel doesn't have the balls to see anything through to the end.

[Kalyx triaD]

Just read a cool theory that Stan Lee's cameos are actually him portraying Uatu the Watcher.

[Sixx]

Just read a cool theory that Stan Lee's cameos are actually him portraying Uatu the Watcher.

Yeah, that's a pretty old theory.

Kinda surprised that you of all people haven't heard it so far.

[Kalyx triaD]

First I heard of it.

[Shadow]

Behind the times Kalyx.

[loopydate]

Yeah heard that like a decade ago. But it's awesome and I hope it's true, so I'm always up for it being reintroduced.

[Fignuts]

Original Sin is pretty awesome so far. A little "all over the place" at the start, but so are most conspiracy stories, and it's starting to all come together and make sense now. Just hope it doesn't take a turn in the last 2 issues, cause this could be a great book once it's done.

Also like that you don't need to read a single tie-in (so far) to know what is going on. Infinity felt incomplete, and I felt like I was missing a ton of context while reading it.

[Shadow]

http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/i/2014/07/23/Ant-Man-Comic-Con_612x942.jpg

[Kalyx triaD]

NICE

[Kalyx triaD]

Joaquin Phoenix is the now rumored to be Dr. Strange.

[Fignuts]

Joaquin Phoenix is a mystical wizard in real life, so that's a good fit.

[Fignuts]

Marvel Unlimited is only 99 cents this month using the promo code SDCC14

[The Destroyer]

I should really look into Marvel Unlimited instead of pissing away money on the all too frequent Marvel sales on Comixology, but I keep hearing bad things about the reading interface.

[Kalyx triaD]

Official MCU film dates:

Phase Two

Guardians of the Galaxy: August 1, 2014
Avengers: Age Of Ultron: May 1, 2015

Phase Three

Ant-Man: July 17, 2015
Captain America 3: May 6, 2016
Untitled Film: July 8, 2016 (Probably Doc Strange)
Untitled Film: May 5, 2017

Likely Phase Four(!)

Guardians of the Galaxy 2: July 28, 2017
Untitled Film: November 3, 2017 (Almost certainly Thor 3)
Untitled Film: July 6, 2018
Untitled Film: November 2, 2018 (Interesting)
Untitled Film: May 3, 2019 (Civil War if there's a god)

[Sixx]

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/MarvelFreshman/news/?a=104630

Deadpool test footage apparently. Doesn't really sound like Ryan Reynolds to me but they say it's him.

[Sixx]

According to imdb there's gonna be an X-Force movie and Stephen Lang is rumored to play Cable.

First I hear of this.

[Kalyx triaD]

"imdb lol"

[The Destroyer]

That rumour's been doing the round for years.

I'll start to believe it if and when X-Force appears from development hell.

[Lock Jaw]

I thought it was already officially announced awhile ago. Just no release date yet.

[Sixx]

I like Stephen Lang but I really hope those are just rumours. I know Cable is grey-haired but never imagined him being old.

[Kalyx triaD]

They are rumors. IMDB has never broke something before other sources. Ever.

[The Destroyer]

I thought it was already officially announced awhile ago. Just no release date yet.

The film isn't rumours, the casting is.

[Sixx]

Think I'd rather see the black ops version of X-Force on film.

[The Destroyer]

Probably end up being the pouch covered 90s version.

[Kalyx triaD]

Nah, I'm thinking spec-ops version as well, with elements of the 90's version. It's also probably the best shot at seeing a proper Deadpool, because he may not get his own movie anytime soon.

[Jura]

https://s1.yimg.com/cd/resizer/FIT_TO_WIDTH-w500/b1e7faa6d8e8d26d2e3eeac9cf93f82165acefb8.jpg

https://s.yimg.com/cd/resizer/FIT_TO_HEIGHT-h658/7f21c4b2bcb57ab21cbf845e8397382592b96e4b.jpg

[Lock Jaw]

In that pic, Lou Ferrigno legit looks like he could be a gamma-roided-up Mark Ruffalo.

[Sixx]

Really enjoying The Ultimate universe now. I get that it's a different universe, so I don't mind the changes to characters, heck I even like Samuel L. Fury.

What I don't like is Nick Fury Jr. in 616. That's just a lame ass attempt to introduce Samuel Jackson to mainstream universe.

[Fignuts]

Yeah that is really awful, and completely unneeded.

[Shadow]

I've been watching Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes on and off for the past couple of weeks and honestly loving how they're Nick Fury started off as just Nick Fury who happens to be black and now...he's Sam Jackson.

Kinda a good development.

[Kalyx triaD]

That show was awesome.

[Fignuts]

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Fuck everyone who kept this from happening. Seriously. Right in the ass.

[Nowhere Man]

That was fun, but I can see why the Deadpool movie didn't get made. Superhero movies are ridiculously expensive to make, and an R-rating would cut off a huge portion of the audience that a PG-13 movie would otherwise get.

Plus, IMO Deadpool gets really annoying, really fast if you're not into "LOL totally random!" humor. Maybe I'm just lame, but I don't think I'd be able to watch two hours of that.

[Kalyx triaD]

Nerf it down to PG13, keep the pop culture gags, downplay violence and language, 4th wall breaking is non-negotiable. It would be a fucking hit. What you want is more kids to be able to see this. Deadpool can play all kinds of demographics.

[Sixx]

So I'm reading this Divided We Fall storyline and there's this black Spiderman kid. He just got the webshooters from Aunt May which kinda baffles me (he's been learning how to swing, too). This is like a year after his first appearance so did Miles Morales go for that long without shooting webs?

[Sixx]

Also, sentient brain tumor. Wow.

[Sixx]

God, I don't even know what's going on in those comics anymore.

Just after United We Stand, the next issue somehow deals with Nick Fury being a traitor and working for Hydra. And the Nick Fury in question is the original 616 version.

[Sixx]

Oh, ok it was some bio camouflage.

Nevermind.

[dronepool]

Nerf it down to PG13, keep the pop culture gags, downplay violence and language, 4th wall breaking is non-negotiable. It would be a fucking hit. What you want is more kids to be able to see this. Deadpool can play all kinds of demographics.

Hell now that you mentioned it, before a violent kill I want him to look at the camera and say "Now, this is where the camera pans away for dramatic effect, this isn't really PG-13 of me" or something.

[Kalyx triaD]

Epic Phase 1+2 Mega-Trailer Retrospective:

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[Kalyx triaD]

http://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/stg.ign.com/2014/08/thanos-hd.jpg

[Jura]

Official MCU film dates:

Phase Two

Guardians of the Galaxy: August 1, 2014
Avengers: Age Of Ultron: May 1, 2015

Phase Three

Ant-Man: July 17, 2015
Captain America 3: May 6, 2016
Untitled Film: July 8, 2016 (Probably Doc Strange)
Untitled Film: May 5, 2017

Likely Phase Four(!)

Guardians of the Galaxy 2: July 28, 2017
Untitled Film: November 3, 2017 (Almost certainly Thor 3)
Untitled Film: July 6, 2018
Untitled Film: November 2, 2018 (Interesting)
Untitled Film: May 3, 2019 (Civil War if there's a god)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BtmW3m7CMAEsUbq.jpg:large

Seems like phase four will be from 2018 Hulk movie to 2021 with Avengers 4. Looking at some of the titles name it sounds like shit is kicking off.

[The Destroyer]

Except that image isn't real.

[Jura]

After doing more research you are right. The date for Avengers 3 is most likely right though, at least the year.

[Jura]

Not a huge enough nerd to have known any of these: http://www.businessinsider.com/marvel-easter-eggs-2014-8

[XL]

Video not available in my location.

Why would you tease me like this? Are you some kind of cunt!?

[Fignuts]

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/nailbiter111/news/?a=105049

Soooo Fantastic Four is done filming...already. That's ah, not a good sign is it?

[Kalyx triaD]

Good movies have been filmed quickly before. Fox values swift production like that.

[Kalyx triaD]

Not saying this will be good because I've been hearing weird shit.

[Jura]

Most of a movie is probably post-editing these days. They must have shot all the scenes they wanted and now it's a matter of putting all of it together.

[Kalyx triaD]

Well really that's any movie ever.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

So Kyle McLaughlin's gonna play a character called "The Doctor" in Agents of SHIELD.

There's so many Marvel Universe/Twin Peaks/Doctor Who crossovers running through my mind right now.

[Sixx]

So Kyle McLaughlin's gonna play a character called "The Doctor" in Agents of SHIELD.

There's so many Marvel Universe/Twin Peaks/Doctor Who crossovers running through my mind right now.

Read that same thing, but the update said he would actually be playing Skye's father.

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/notyetamovie/news/?a=105523

[Corporate CockSnogger]

As long as he asks for some damn fine coffee, I'll be happy.

[Sixx]

Something Afterlife shared on facebook:

http://www.tickld.com/cdn_image_article/a_760_20140810161606.jpg

[Kalyx triaD]

I seen that one. Tad unfair in some portions, but mostly agreeable.

[Fignuts]

Wait so there's a new Ms Marvel too?

So is Danvers Thor? She's definitely worthy enough to lift Mjolnir.

[Lock Jaw]

Danvers is Captain Marvel now

[XL]

No One-Shot on the Winter Soldier release. Disappointing.

[Nowhere Man]

Wait so there's a new Ms Marvel too?

So is Danvers Thor? She's definitely worthy enough to lift Mjolnir.

Danvers being Thor would be pretty awesome, but no, she just changed her name to Captain Marvel.

I've read the first five issues of the new Captain Marvel, and I kinda love it. Kamala Khan being this superhero-obsessed fan-girl is adorably dorky, and they've been pretty creative with her shape-shifting powers. She's filling the "teenage uber-nerd superhero" spot that Spider-Man once held, which is nice. Probably not my favorite book on any given day, but it's still really fun.

[Lock Jaw]

http://www.comicbookresources.com/imgsrv/imglib/0/0/1/Thing-afd17.jpg

[Kalyx triaD]

Pic is old, right?

[The Destroyer]

It's not that old, think it only came out just before Comic Con.

[Fignuts]

Journey into Mystery is fucking awesome you guys. Both Loki's and Sif's runs in the book are great.

Really mad now that they made kid Loki older, cause he was a great character, and added a lot to the the Thor universe.

[Kalyx triaD]

It's not that old, think it only came out just before Comic Con.

Which was like over a month ago?

[XL]

Pretty much retro in modern terms.

[Kalyx triaD]

Has the Mandarin invented Trevor, or has Trevor invented the Mandarin? Which is which?[...]The Mandarin could be so supremely intelligent that he could have said, 'You know what? I'll invent this actor, and he will be my mask.' You know, which is which? Who's pulling the strings. Now, this is me just free-thinking here, but I would love to revisit that world. But Trev, bless him, may have made an indelible mark on that world. So everyone might say, 'Is it Trev under there?' So they'd have to approach it quite carefully, and so would I, but I would love to go back to that world, yeah.

This is Kingsley just riffing, but bear in mind The Mandarin could have had him killed while Trever was in prison. The long and short of it is; Trevor was busted out.

In any case, with SHIELD rebuilding and HYDRA splintered, The Ten Rings could really make their move against Stark or anyone. Coulson may well have to deal with them.

[Sixx]

So when does Original Sin end?

I want to download the whole crossover when it's done.

[The Destroyer]

I think the final issue is out this week.

[The Destroyer]

Makes me realise how bloody far behind I am, actually. I've still not read anything beyond Fear Itself. :(

[Sixx]

Makes me realise how bloody far behind I am, actually. I've still not read anything beyond Fear Itself. :(

So Original Sin #8 is the last of the whole crossover? Including the tie-ins?

[The Destroyer]

I think there's still some tie ins to go, like the Guardians of the Galaxy issues. But I dunno how directly they tie in.

[Sixx]

Eh, never gave a fuck about GoG comics.

[Fignuts]

You should. They're good stuff.

[Sixx]

Dunno, never got into the space Marvel stuff, though I liked Infinity so I guess I might give it a try some day.

[Fignuts]

Dr. Doom in the new FF movie.

https://twitter.com/SuperheroReport/status/504983986486411264/photo/1

eesh.

[Sixx]

I really hope they add a ton of CGI to him.

[Lock Jaw]

Looks more like Ragman.

A poorly done Ragman.

[Sixx]

Looks homeless.

[Kalyx triaD]

I'd like to think they're gonna 'Iron Man' CG armor on him but I don't see any mocap trackers.

Ya know what? I'm gonna go dark on this. Most of what I hear and see is suspect, but so was First Class. I'll just hope for the best.

[Rammsteinmad]

Lol at some of the comments on some pics.

Seriously, do we need to go into the whole "wait until it comes out" spiel?

Remember when the first pics of Magneto in First Class leaked and everyone lol'd at how ridiculous his helmet looked and how the film was gonna suck?

[Lock Jaw]

No, because I thought it looked sweet.

[XL]

And conversely how everybody's concerns about Dawn Of Justice seem to have been placated by shots of the suits?

[Fignuts]

Original Sin gets a big thumbs up from me. First major crossover I've enjoyed all the way through since World War Hulk.

[KIRA]

And conversely how everybody's concerns about Dawn Of Justice seem to have been placated by shots of the suits?

Well personally I'm somewhat comforted by the fact that Affleck seems comfortable with the direction.

I hate to say but that list Sixx posted is pretty spot on.Seriously what is DC's problem here's hoping they take more chances in the coming years film wise anyway.

[dronepool]

Original Sin gets a big thumbs up from me. First major crossover I've enjoyed all the way through since World War Hulk.

Worth buying in trade when its cheap? Hmm

[Kalyx triaD]

Um... grain of salt and all that but...

I think Cap 3 will be Civil War. Marvel Studios prez says that his idea for Cap 3 was something he wanted to do for a decade (as in before Cap had a movie franchise, or that there was even an MCU - but Civil War was still reverberating in the 616). He hints that it will be a game changer in the vein of Winter Soldier.

If this pans out, I would have expected Avengers 3 to be Civil War, but it seems Thanos is all over that. Now that I think about it, Civil War is firmly a Cap led thing (in that his side was more sympathetic). It would also be great for Thanos to strike after something so messy topples the heroes of Earth.

There's also word that Drax would show up in Avengers 3, sure.

[Lock Jaw]

I could see it. Kind of set it up a bit with Black Widow's speech before that committee at the end of Winter Soldier. She was basically like "What are you going to do? You need us."

With her checkered past out in the open, plus with the "Hydra Scare" going around, I could see some politicians wanting to have all the heroes sign up, register, pledge allegiance.... etc.

You would have to do the story on a much smaller scale in just a Cap movie, as it won't have millions of cameos. Could do something where Cap learns of the bill before it is passed.... some conspiracy stuff.... Cap thwarts some evil villain's plan.... but at the end of the movie the bill is passed anyways, setting the stage for further movies and The Avengers.

[Shadow]

Um... grain of salt and all that but...

I think Cap 3 will be Civil War. Marvel Studios prez says that his idea for Cap 3 was something he wanted to do for a decade (as in before Cap had a movie franchise, or that there was even an MCU - but Civil War was still reverberating in the 616). He hints that it will be a game changer in the vein of Winter Soldier.

If this pans out, I would have expected Avengers 3 to be Civil War, but it seems Thanos is all over that. Now that I think about it, Civil War is firmly a Cap led thing (in that his side was more sympathetic). It would also be great for Thanos to strike after something so messy topples the heroes of Earth.

There's also word that Drax would show up in Avengers 3, sure.

*slams you with a chair*

THERE CAN BE NO CIVIL WAR IF HALF THE PARTICIPANTS ARE OWNED BY OTHER STUDIOS!

[Lock Jaw]

They don't have to be exact. In fact, an exact adaptation would be terrible.

[Kalyx triaD]

By Phase 3 they'll have a lot of heroes.

[Sixx]

No way Cap 3 is gonna be Civil War.

Those movies are Cap focused with a little side action and Civil War was not like that. You can't make a Civil War movie all about Cap with some gymnastics from Black Widow.

[Kalyx triaD]

Yeah you really can.

[Sixx]

No, unless you totally change the concept of said Civil War.

[Fignuts]

Nah, Sixx is right. You either have to change the solo movies to include a lot more heroes, or drastically change the scale of Civil War.

If I had to pick, I'd go with the latter, as seeing all the heroes on screen together should be an avengers thing. Lessens the impact when they are all together in the solo movies.

If I really had my choice, I'd say fuck civil war, cause it's dumb.

[Lock Jaw]

Yeah, that's what I was saying... It literally can't be a close adaptation. Pretty much the only thing I would take from it is the idea that the government wants heroes to register.

[Clerk]

Really? Marvel Comics. This is comical, grown adults reading childrens super-hero books. Why not grow up and read an actual book for adults not children.

[XL]

Y'know what? I never thought about it like that. I think you're right. You've changed my life. Thank you.

[Innovator]

Clerk, are you supposed to be edgy?

[Shadow]

That's so edgy it goes back to being a soft as fuck troll.

[Sixx]

Really? Marvel Comics. This is comical, grown adults reading childrens super-hero books. Why not grow up and read an actual book for adults not children.

I'll reread War and Peace now. Thank you.

[Sixx]

Enjoying Death of Wolverine so far. He's badass without the healing factor, not being the first one to get dropped in a fight and all.

[Jura]

http://media.zenfs.com/en-US/homerun/comicvine.cbs.com/afdaf4fc12461315b009cbef42f7fb9d

[Jura]

http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/ap_webfeeds/9664bbf97bf1df245f0f6a706700af0b.jpg

[Sixx]

Wow, Captain Citrus, you're a fag.

[Kalyx triaD]

That's the kid-centric line. All is forgiven.

[Kalyx triaD]

Deadpool movie a go for 2016. We can only assume that leaked test footage did the trick.

[Lock Jaw]

Fantastic Four also pushed back, but no one cares.

[Sixx]

Shot in like 3 months.

Probably need another 10 for CGI now.

[Sixx]

God, vol. 3 of Savage Wolverine is awful.

Now he's talking to elephants and hippopotamuses (hippopotami?).

[Kalyx triaD]

It was a bygone conclusion but Bryan Singer is confirmed to direct X-Men Apocalypse.

[XL]

Foregone conclusion, surely?

[Kalyx triaD]

Everybody knew it to be the case, let's go with that.

[JimmyMess]

So is Ryan Reynolds playing Deadpool?

[Kalyx triaD]

That would be another foregone conclusion.

[JimmyMess]

that's what I figured.

[Lock Jaw]

http://i.imgur.com/0fyMesb.png

Pulp heroes have sure come a long way.....

[Sixx]

Scroll up a bit, guy's already here.

Dunno, is that like a Florida sponsored comic book?

[Lock Jaw]

I know he's already there. This is a different image. Yeah, it is some promotion with some Florida Orange company or something....

www.captaincitrus.com

[Sixx]

http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/ap_webfeeds/9664bbf97bf1df245f0f6a706700af0b.jpg

Fucking look at his hair.

He looks like a trimmed pineapple.

Hate those shitty sponsored comic books. There was once Avengers sponsored by some shitty Home Depot knockoff and the Avengers went on some mission and their handyman defeated the villains with a multitool or some bullshit like that.

[Sixx]

OK, sorry, that wasn't Avengers, but Justice League.

http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/justice-league-craftsman-195x300.jpg

[Lock Jaw]

Remember when Spider-Man tied in with Captain Crunch?

http://blogintomystery.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/smcapn1.jpg
http://blogintomystery.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/smcapn2.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/5/55750/1039829-spider_man_capn_crunch.jpg

[Sixx]

Remember when it turned out Hulk is angry cause he doesn't sleep comfortably?

http://i.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/article/3/4/5/180345_v2.jpg

http://i.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/article/3/3/1/180331.jpg?v=1
http://i.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/article/3/3/2/180332_v1.jpg

[Kalyx triaD]

Figures Florida has something to do with that guy.

[Kalyx triaD]

Days of Future's Past home release will have a 'Rogue Cut' that not only returns the cut scene featuring Rogue, but other director's cuts featuring other mutants.

[slik]

Ralph Macchio wrote Captain Citrus...the Karate Kid?

[Lock Jaw]

Different guy, same name.

[slik]

who would win a comic book fight:

Krypto vs. Lockjaw

@Lock Jaw

[DaveBrawl]

Ace the Bathound

[Lock Jaw]

who would win a comic book fight:

Krypto vs. Lockjaw

@Lock Jaw

Krypto. He is the Superman of dogs.

[loopydate]

I'm a little surprised nobody's commented on the Kirby settlement.

[Nowhere Man]

I'm still rather amazed they were able to settle at all. I kinda figured this was going to be one of those legal battles that goes on forever, like the Siegel estate vs DC over the rights to Superman.

[Jura]

http://media.zenfs.com/en-US/homerun/comicvine.cbs.com/e4db70637556304eded6785a1693004a

[Kalyx triaD]

I'm sorry I'm just not digging Onslaught Skull.

[Reavant]

theres some really wild stuff going on behind the scenes with avengers and new avengers. Theyre building up a 8 months thing and its a very good story that they have going.

[Fignuts]

I haven't read Uncanny Avengers in a while, where they first cameoed this Onslaught red skull thing, but it was reeeeaaaaallly good up to where I got. Same writer as the Black Ops X-force books which were fucking phenomenal, and since he's writing this crossover, it's got a chance to be good.

[Fignuts]

Also, stating next week I'm gonna give that Marvel Unlimited service a shot. I'll let ya'll know it's worth the 9.99

[Kalyx triaD]

Here's some rumors...

While Avengers 3 may not split into two movies, there is now talk of a huge project - larger than an Avengers film, that would include characters from the movies and Agents of Shield.

Rumors, though.

[alvarado52]

Think Sony is gonna budge on Spidey and piggy back off the MCU?

[Sixx]

Here's some rumors...

While Avengers 3 may not split into two movies, there is now talk of a huge project - larger than an Avengers film, that would include characters from the movies and Agents of Shield.

Rumors, though.

There are also rumours MCU are in talks to get the rights to Spiderman.

[Sixx]

I just read the Cap comics where he loses the super-soldier serum and thought it was pretty cheap, some random new guy shows up and shoots shit out of his chest that just sucks it out.

And I'm not digging Falcon as the new Cap so far, gonna have to see more of this than just the last Cap vol. 7 issue to really say.

[Nowhere Man]

Has anyone else been reading Ms. Marvel?

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b73/nowhereman716/MMlockjaw_zpsf717971a.png (http://s17.photobucket.com/user/nowhereman716/media/MMlockjaw_zpsf717971a.png.html)

....because I kind of love it.

[Sixx]

Hate the new Ms. Marvel cause she's just pretty much Mr Fantastic. Shitty powers.

Just read the Spiderman that came out today, team-up with her and it was awful.

[Sixx]

Oh and this AXIS event looks pretty good so far. Read all the "Road to AXIS" comics and the first part of the core series and it might be really cool.

[Shadow]

Hate the new Ms. Marvel cause she's just pretty much Mr Fantastic. Shitty powers.

Just read the Spiderman that came out today, team-up with her and it was awful.


Racist.

[Sixx]

Racist.

Clearly, you meant "gross and racist".

[Kalyx triaD]

I like her character and design but yeah her powers are goofy. Not everybody can pull off Dhalsim/Mr. Fantastic and still be taken seriously.

[Nowhere Man]

Well, it's largely a comedy book, so I doubt being taken seriously is that big of a concern. I'd also say she's more on the Plastic Man end of the spectrum of stretchy-powers, which isn't all that different from your Mister Fantastics or Dhalsims of the world, just a little more creative with the stuff she transforms into.

On the subject of characters than can and should always be taken seriously, though, I've started reading Magneto's solo book. And it's pretty hardcore-- he's like the mutant version of the Punisher now.

[Sixx]

Well, it's largely a comedy book, so I doubt being taken seriously is that big of a concern. I'd also say she's more on the Plastic Man end of the spectrum of stretchy-powers, which isn't all that different from your Mister Fantastics or Dhalsims of the world, just a little more creative with the stuff she transforms into.

On the subject of characters than can and should always be taken seriously, though, I've started reading Magneto's solo book. And it's pretty hardcore-- he's like the mutant version of the Punisher now.

Solo Magneto is fucking awesome. Wait till you get to "Road to AXIS", these are like issues 9-10.

[Fignuts]

Ok, so maybe I'm not trying out Marvel Unlimited.

It's one of those things where they advertise it as 9.99 a month, but you have to pay for like 8 months up front.

So fuck that.

[Kalyx triaD]

Age of Ultron toys reveal Hulk's new team shorts:

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--E_By2Eqi--/pwu1b9ffbn5tvbbjyllx.png

[Miotch]

what. why.

[dronepool]

The last "event" I bought was X-Men vs Avengers, only been buying Superior/Amazing-Spider-Man, Scarlet Spider and Deadpool comics. I picked up new Captain America #25 for the hell of it and Avengers/X-Men: Axis. Didn't read Cap yet but enjoyed Avengers/X-Men: Axis just unsure if it's worth 5 dollars an issue.

[Fignuts]

Holy shit, is that how much they are now?

Glad I rip torrents and buy trades then.

[Fignuts]

Also, I know it's not Marvel but...

http://media.instocktrades.com/large/JUN140062.jpg

METAL AS FUCK

[dronepool]

Holy shit, is that how much they are now?

Glad I rip torrents and buy trades then.

Most regular sized books are $3.99- anything 40 to 48 pages is $4.99 now. For some reason most of the main Axis books/Avengers "8 months in the future" books were $4.99. Uncanny Avengers #25 was 5 bucks, Cap #25 was 5 bucks. It seems like 40% of the books are $4.99.

I mean I get 15% off everything at Forbidden Planet NYC but still, that's why I only get Amazing and Deadpool regularly.

[Fignuts]

Just found out those two gay X-force books were cancelled in may, and they went back to having a black ops X-force book. Awesome. Awesome to the max.

Fucking Bishop being a good guy again was so stupid. "Hey guys, it's okay. I'm good now because...uh...vampires. Yeah."

[Sixx]

Holy shit, is that how much they are now?

Glad I rip torrents and buy trades then.

Check out my Original Sin torrent, bitch.

Fucking downloaded each fucking issue one by one, then decided I'm a nice person and uploaded that shit as a whole.

[Nowhere Man]

So apparently the alternate-universe Gwen Stacy version of Spider-Woman from Edge of Spider-Verse was enough of a hit that she's going to get her own ongoing series, set to launch in February (link (http://comicsalliance.com/back-by-popular-demand-spider-gwen-gets-ongoing-series-in-february-nycc/)). No word if she's going to stay in her own universe or make her way over to Marvel 616 or what.

[Kalyx triaD]

I like the costume.

[Kalyx triaD]

New X-Men/Guardians crossover comic series "The Black Vortex" shall launch 2015, the same year as the new Guardians cartoon.

[Nowhere Man]

I like the costume.

Me too. The issue she appeared in was pretty good, too, so I think Spider-Gwen's got some real potential. Though I kinda hope she gets stuck in 616 Marvel so she can interact with Spider-Man and the rest of the 616 characters.

[Kalyx triaD]

Well if Spidey-2009 gets to stick around.

Also:

<iframe width="640" height="360" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/mLAU6jF0qwY?feature=player_detailpage" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[Shadow]

And Marvel finds a way to get Gwen Stacy back in 616.

Wonder how Normon's gonna deal with her.

[Fignuts]

prolly just rape her again

[Kalyx triaD]

It would be interesting having Pete deal with a new Gwen, who also has powers.

And I wonder; did her Peter get killed by her Goblin?

[dronepool]

Spider-Gwen and Silk, in 2015

http://i61.tinypic.com/11b3wjm.jpg

http://i62.tinypic.com/xn7mld.jpg

[dronepool]

And I wonder; did her Peter get killed by her Goblin?

I read the issue, nope. he creates a lizard serum and turns into that version of the Lizard, trying to be "special" like her.

[Kalyx triaD]

I remember somebody saying if Peter wasn't Spider-Man he'd be a supervillain of some sort all the same.

I read up about Silk. She has a Tarantula (DC) Mary Sue vibe about her in the way she trounced Peter hard enough that I think the writer had something to say. But overall she's kinda cool.

[dronepool]

It was a cool read, wish he had more than a page or two but still an interesting twist. Silk is cool. I like how they connected her to Ezekiel and whole totem thing. I'm I love all the progress in Slotts Spider-Man and I'm loving that he's doing Spider-Verse.

The last issue was fun.

[dronepool]

http://i62.tinypic.com/28u0gig.jpg

[Kalyx triaD]

That looks like a fun take.

[Lock Jaw]

Robert Downey Jr. apparently confirmed to have joined the cast of Captain America 3. Looking more and more like some sort of Civil War will kick off.

[Kalyx triaD]

Will you look at that. Who'd a thought.

And we might as well consider that Iron Man 4, he's not doing an extra.

[Lock Jaw]

I hope that RDJ doesn't "take over" Cap's own movie. Winter Soldier was sweet because of the espionage/spy/conspiracy feel to it.... RDJ doesn't really "fit in" with that tone.

[Kalyx triaD]

Civil War is inherently political. Iron Man's own series dealt with those themes in its own way. I'd say he'll be perfectly fine.

Cap 3 itself may be the catalyst to Civil War, and the event will play out over several movies (into Avengers 4). I imagine Agents of Shield and Daredevil will work off it as well.

[Shadow]

Hell why not have Ghost Rider get dragged back to earth with Civil War as well as Dr. Strange and the Defenders? Possibilities are endless.

[Kalyx triaD]

No Nic Cage no go.

[Sixx]

So, Wolverine is dead.

It was a good story, though I'm not sure about the ending.

Also, wonder how long he'll stay dead.

[Shadow]

When's the next big universe shaking cross over event? Next month? Back by then.

[Sixx]

When's the next big universe shaking cross over event? Next month? Back by then.

It's called Axis and it already started.

Second issue of the core series came out today. It's also in Captain America, Magneto, Uncanny Avengers and Loki: Agent of Asgard.

[loopydate]

He'll stay dead until Disney gets the film rights to the mutants.

[Fignuts]

When he murdered his own son, it kind of ruined the character for me.

[Sixx]

I was shocked he didn't do it way earlier.

Still, Daken is fine now.

Also:

Remember the time he actually killed like 5 of his children? Some group obsessed with Wolverine made him fight them, then everyone commited suicide except for one boy who told Wolverine those were all his kids. Was a weird story.

[Fignuts]

Yeah, didn't read that one.

I dunno, it's just that as many bad things as Wolverine has done, he's at least always had a code that's kept him somewhat honorable. He was on the precipice, but he hadn't crossed the line so much that he couldn't still be considered a hero. Killing Daken ruined that at least for me. Daken wasn't even pure evil. He was a bad person for sure, but he wasn't so far gone that he couldn't eventually redeem himself.

And yeah, I know that future Wolverine told him Daken would kill all the students if he let him live but that's stupid too. How many glimpses have we gotten of a future where Genesis becomes Apocalypse and kills everyone? That kind of thing happens in comics all the time. "Oh if you don't kill this dude a horrible future will take place" But they always find a different way to avoid that future because that's what keeps them heroes. Even if they're not the most virtuous of heroes like X-force.

Also, the fact that Daken is alive again doesn't make the fact that Logan killed him any easier to swallow for me.

[Sixx]

So who do you think is the female Thor?

My bet is on either Frigga or Angela.

The first issue would suggest Frigga as more likely, but who the fuck knows.

[Reavant]

Or valkerie

[Shadow]

Or an unknown woman who is worthy of the power of Thor.