Marvel Universe Thread

[Sixx]

Except for the fact there's a black Nordic god and Zeus looks like some shitty officer working on a spaceship in a sci-fi TV series, the trailer looks promising.

[Lara Emily]

A lot of us here liked the trailer.
Yeah I know that's why I asked if I was the only one that didn't like the trailer

[Kalyx triaD]

I don't think Thor will be good. It looks like it will be entertaining though.

I heard this kind of statement before so I wanna ask: Why is an entertaining movie not a good movie to you? Like I'd consider anything that manages to entertain me 'good'.

And conversely, are there 'good' movies that aren't entertaining to you?

[Kalyx triaD]

How do Nordic gods look, 6x?

[Lock Jaw]

Thor for me can still go either way. Trailer has some good and some bad. Jury is out on the movie until I see it.

[Sixx]

How do Nordic gods look, 6x?

Like Nords.

All white and mostly blonde.

[Sixx]

Also, I like how you shortenned my name by WHOLE TWO LETTERS.

[Kalyx triaD]

Um... yeah.

[McLegend]

I heard this kind of statement before so I wanna ask: Why is an entertaining movie not a good movie to you? Like I'd consider anything that manages to entertain me 'good'.

And conversely, are there 'good' movies that aren't entertaining to you?

A good movie is also entertaining. A Steven Seagal movie is just entertaining. The plot will be dumb, and the acting will be bad to questionable. The action and special effects will probably kickass and make it entertaining.

Another example

First Blood Part 2 and 3 are entertaining while First Blood is good.

[Sixx]

Um... yeah.

Care to elaborate?

[Kalyx triaD]

Care to elaborate?

No.

A good movie is also entertaining. A Steven Seagal movie is just entertaining. The plot will be dumb, and the acting will be bad to questionable. The action and special effects will probably kickass and make it entertaining.

Another example

First Blood Part 2 and 3 are entertaining while First Blood is good.

Interesting.

[Sixx]

Fair enough.

We've discussed this before, anyway.

[Skippord]

Like Nords.

All white and mostly blonde.
I don't think they can have an all white blonde cast without some sort of Hitler Zombie

[Fignuts]

Thor looks great to me, but I am heavily biased.

[Rammsteinmad]

So we're all agreed that they should have went with X4, eh?

Yeah. They could have come with any excuse to bring back people like Cyclops and Rogue, or just bring in others that we hadn't seen yet. Nightcrawler could have come back, and maybe Angel could have actually done something. But it's not like they need a totally realistic excuse since it's a comic movie.

Then I would have loved to see a different bad guy for once other than Magneto or the Brotherhood. Apocalypse would have been my first choice, but anyone like Sinister, the Sentinels, the Brood etc.

Also, I remember there was a picture someone made of the Rock as Mr. Sinister which looked awesome.

[Rammsteinmad]

Oh wait, wasn't Sinister it was Apocalypse.

http://www.khanada.org/casting/TheRockApocalypse.jpg

[Rammsteinmad]

unrelated note am I the only one that doesn't think Thor looks fantastic?

Thor looks awesome. You have no idea what you're talking about.

[XL]

The kid playing Xavier was in a movie with Angelina Jolie about making bullets turn directions with the power of your will!

Never seen it, but judging by the plot it has GOT the be a classic.
That film would be WANTED, which is actually based on a comic/graphic novel and was pretty good. And thats coming from someone that isn't an action film fan for the most part. I found it much more enjoyable than The Expendables for example.

And the "kid playing Xavier" is James McAvoy. Again, he's a pretty good actor.

But don't let the fact that you know nothing about the guy, his talents or his body of work get in the way of your bitching. ;)

[Sixx]

But don't let the fact that you know nothing about the guy, his talents or his body of work get in the way of your bitching. ;)

Actually, how was that bitching? I just said I know he was in some movie and the plot of said movie blows. Never said he's a bad actor or anything.

I think you need to read posts a tad more carefully.

[Kalyx triaD]

...It totally seemed you were 'having a tone' about James McAvoy and Wanted. Maybe not bitching but certainly mocking. You backtrack like that often, ya know.

[Rammsteinmad]

I was bitching about James McAvoy, but it's not like nobody bitches here about stuff they don't know about.

I'll wait to watch the film to actually pass proper judgement, but so far looking at the pictures I fucking hate the guy.

Patrick Stewart ftw! :foc:

[Sixx]

...It totally seemed you were 'having a tone' about James McAvoy and Wanted. Maybe not bitching but certainly mocking. You backtrack like that often, ya know.

What?

The only thing I was "having a tone" about was the plot of Wanted. I mock a lot of shit I know nothing about, like your beloved anime, but sadly this is not the case, so you just can't be a bitch about it this time. Sorry.

[Kalyx triaD]

Just making an observation.

[dronepool]

Thor looks awesome. You have no idea what you're talking about.

Thor looks amazing and I'm not even a big fan of his, just a casual one.

[Sixx]

Just making an observation.

Ray Charles is a better observator, then.

[Sixx]

And he's fuckin' dead.

[Kalyx triaD]

Nah, I'm on point about you making a foolish statement, getting called on it, and being all, "What, I didn't mean that."

[XL]

...It totally seemed you were 'having a tone' about James McAvoy and Wanted. Maybe not bitching but certainly mocking. You backtrack like that often, ya know.
Kinda sums it up.

I dunno. Maybe you weren't bitching, bad choice of word maybe. But it definately came across as you talking down on "the kid who's playing Xavier".

[Sixx]

Nah, I'm on point about you making a foolish statement, getting called on it, and being all, "What, I didn't mean that."

What "foolish statement" would that be? And I definetely meant all I said.

[Sixx]

Kinda sums it up.

I dunno. Maybe you weren't bitching, bad choice of word maybe. But it definately came across as you talking down on "the kid who's playing Xavier".

Guess I'll leave you two to chat.

[dronepool]

Looks like Spidey's "street running suit" is his wrestling outfit.


http://www.therpf.com/attachments/f24/spiderman-reboot-costumes-wardrobe-spidersuit.jpg-43486d1295714198

[Jeritron]

I don't think Gambit is "overrated." I think he's just a great supporting character who caught on very quickly and became way popular among fans because of how "badass" he was.
What his character represents and brings to the table doesn't really match that popularity. He just doesn't have the substance, (from what I've read) to match his style.

So basically what you have is a character that isn't tremendously deep, nor should it be, but their popularity has brought them to a level where people either pedestal them, or resent them for not being as realized as a Joker or Magneto. Supporting characters with the popularity of major players.

This happens all the time with pop characters, though. It's the Boba Fett effect. I can't say anything because I love Gambit (and Fett), but it's almost definitely a style thing.

[Jeritron]

Thor for me can still go either way. Trailer has some good and some bad. Jury is out on the movie until I see it.

Yea. I see parts that seem good. I'm excited to see Thor on the big screen, but I also have this strong feeling that it's going to be 50% frozen caveman gags, like Natalie Portman teaching him how to do laundry and use the internet and him being really confused and stuff.
Such low hanging fruit right there for the screenwriters.

That's sort of the direction comic book movies have decided to go, and it usually disappoints me. I'd rather them just take Thor and go all the way with it, and only worry about getting him into modern times by The Avengers.
Seems like every "Marvel" movie takes the light-hearted modern approach with a peppy romance, and it doesn't serve every character.
They know what they're doing though, and what sells. Apparently DC does too, since they're apparently taking Green Lantern from Iron Man's entire playbook.

I just don't think Thor should be tackled in the same vein as Iron Man and Spidey. I know there's plenty of Asgard and stuff in there, but ultimately I think it's obvious it's going to be a pretty standard modern-superhero flick. Whatever that ends up meaning.

Hopefully, with Cap America, Joe Johnston is able to deliver on a WWII adventure with a golden age feel. My biggest hope is that it feels like Raiders of the Lost Ark or a perfected Rocketeer.
My biggest worry is that it plays like The Mummy or something, in that it's only set in the past and doesn't capture it.
I also have concerns of it being anything like the G.I. Joe movie.

[Kalyx triaD]

I liked the Mummy movies.

[Blitz]

http://s3.amazonaws.com/coolproduction/ckeditor_assets/pictures/451/original/newspidey2.jpg?1295978463

http://s3.amazonaws.com/coolproduction/ckeditor_assets/pictures/452/original/newspidey1.jpg?1295978483

[Rammsteinmad]

That looks really gay.

[Jeritron]

Well maybe he's chasing the killer after the wrestling show? That would explain the lack of webshooters and the shitty costume.
That's just an idea though, and probably not true.

I have no excuses. Even if it was just the post-wrestling sequence, I'm all set with seeing that done again already. Raimi covered it quite well. I love that whole sequence.
If they're going to revisit everything about the origins (even in partial Ultimate style), they should structure the film differently. Maybe it should open with Parker already Spidey, and the story already at a certain place.
Flashbacks and such could show origins material.

Really I just want to see them at least do something different. And that doesn't mean I want them to make the suit look really awful or change important characters either.

But I would almost prefer Jameson to be a huge hardass and borderline villain just so that they don't have to try to re-capture what JK Simmons did, or take us back through the Daily Bugle in the style Raimi did (which was gold.)

[Jeritron]

As far as I can recall, my first impression of the Raimi Spider-Man costume was this:

http://www.traileraddict.com/content/columbia-pictures/spiderman.jpg


So...

[dronepool]

Jeritron...

Looks like Spidey's "street running suit" is his wrestling outfit.


http://www.therpf.com/attachments/f24/spiderman-reboot-costumes-wardrobe-spidersuit.jpg-43486d1295714198


Ahem'

And supposedly this will not have JJJ, this is pre-Bugle high school Peter.

[Jeritron]

I mentioned that because I saw your post earlier

[Jeritron]

Even if it was just the post-wrestling sequence, I'm all set with seeing that done again already. Raimi covered it quite well. I love that whole sequence.

[Jeritron]

If that's what he's able to throw together for a wrestling show, he sure as hell better have something nice for when he goes full-time superhero.

[Jeritron]

The one thing I love about this Spidey is the casting though. I have good feelings about Andrew Garfield in the role. I just hope they can get through this high school and origins stuff again without me finding it annoying or inferior. That's why I think it would be best if they toyed with how they structure it, but we'll see.

I'm chomping at the bit to see Parker a little bit older and self-assured. Hopefully it doesn't take 3 movies and another cast/director/reboot to get there. Leather jakcet and a staff job. And a true version of Mary Jane (Dunst was awful.)
And I want to see Kingpin, and some of the 70s and 80s villains done proper. I love the classic villains as much as any of them, but it'd be nice to see Spidey taking on more than just deranged teachers and family friends who had bad science accidents. I get the story value there, but there's also the appeal of him taking on NYC itself, and a whole crime element.
The mean Jameson would be great there, to make it all harder for him in the public eye.

[Rammsteinmad]

I'd feel sorry for anyone who has to try and top Willem DaFoe or Alfred Molina as Green Goblin or Doc Ock, if they appear in these new films.

[Fignuts]

Dafoe was good, but it wasn't something that I can't see being topped. Molina, however was perfect as doc ock.

Also, the problem with mary jane in the old movies is that they tried to make mary jane like she is in the modern spider-man comics. A mature, strong adult. Didn't work, as the story was about spidey's early years, when the more iconic, bubbley version of mary jane was around.

[loopydate]

Plus, Kirsten Dunst was absolutely terrible.

[Nowhere Man]

Y'know, I actually like the new suit. The only thing that really irks me about it is the lack of a 'belt' area, but I really don't see why everyone's getting all bent out of shape about it. It's a scrawny kid who sewed a costume together in his basement; why wouldn't it look a little off?

Anyway, I'm pretty optimistic about the reboot. I know a lot of folks aren't happy with them going back and doing another origin, but I'm honestly liking the fact that they're doing it this way. The casting all looks pretty great, they're using a villain that hasn't been used before (and ostensibly giving a proper buildup for more major villains like Osborn), making proper use of Spidey's other main love interest so Gwen Stacy's not just there to make Mary Jane jealous and bitchy like in Spider-Man 3, and yes, I'm digging the fact that he has gadget web-shooters again. If we're lucky they'll change the structure of the story a bit so it's not just a re-done version of Spider-Man 1 (I like Jeritron's idea of having Peter already be Spidey when the movie starts), but if not, I mean hey, at least they're trying to get it right.

[Jeritron]

The biggest problem with Dunst's MJ was that she started off like MJ, but by the second movie she was just a miserable bitch, for lack of a better term.
She became more and more brutal and really just served as a plot device to keep Parker unhappy and troubled. She even started to look and act in a way that was the antithesis of MJ.

They thought having her throw "tiger" into a line of dialogue once a movie was going to rememdy the shortcomings, but after the first movie it was pretty obvious that they'd decided to shitcan the Mary Jane character and just play it another way.
Granted, Spider-Man 2 is easily the best of the Spidey films and in my Top 2 or 3 of comic book films alltime, but they certainly dropped the ball on that character.

[Rammsteinmad]

It's a scrawny kid who sewed a costume together in his basement; why wouldn't it look a little off?

That's some fucking good sewing for a kid. And a male at that. :wtf:

[Kalyx triaD]

http://cache-03.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/8/2011/01/spider-man6.jpg

[Rammsteinmad]

That street looks nothing like New York! :mad:

[Reavant]

im telling you... if you are going to shoot a movie based in new york, you have to shoot in new york. It will look off

[Lock Jaw]

I have never been to New York in my life. It is not going to make a difference to me because I won't be able to tell that it is "off".

[Rammsteinmad]

Yeah I've never actually to be America so whatever.

[Sixx]

Plus, Kirsten Dunst was absolutely terrible.

I don't buy her as a sexy beast she was in the comic.

She's just not hot enough to be MJ.

[Rammsteinmad]

Durnst wasn't terrible in the first Spider-Man, I mean she wasn't amazing but she wasn't too bad, but yeah the second and third ones she sucked and just came across as selfish etc. It's like 'Hello, your boyfriend risks his life and sacrifices his own time to help people all over New York unrewarded, and she's bitching because he won't take a negative review of her singing seriously'.

Also, in 2 and 3, she didn't really have the trademark red hair, it was just like ginger/strawberry blond or something.

[Lock Jaw]

She was still alright in 2. In 3, though, yeah, she was just needlessly being whiny.

[Shadow]

Everyone in 3 was needlessly whiney.

[Rammsteinmad]

Harry's Butler wasn't.

In fact he kind of saved the day. If he hadn't spoken to Harry, Harry probably wouldn't have gone to save Spiedy.

[Nowhere Man]

He should have told him about that a couple of years earlier, though. Like, pretty much as soon as Harry started his vow of revenge against Spider-Man for killing his father, when the butler knew for a fact that he didn't.

[Kalyx triaD]

Probably let it slide for the lulz.

[Lock Jaw]

Its all jokes until someone gets a pumpkin bomb in the face.

[Kalyx triaD]

Well that was pretty much the case. lol

[Kalyx triaD]

And the new Venom (comics) is Flash Thompson! I am fucking thrilled because I've been sort of a Flash fan for many years. In fact while watching the 90's Spidey toon, I felt Flash should of been Venom rather than Brock (source material be damned). I liked his scenes in the first Spidey movie and the whole 'picks on Peter but loves Spider-Man' a character generated mixed feelings in me. So yeah, hearing that he's getting a push as the new SpecOp-ified Venom is good news for me. His first challenge will be Kraven the Hunter. Here's hopping he gets to face Spidey himself someday.

http://comicsmedia.ign.com/comics/image/article/114/1146703/venom-vol-2-20110128022914136.jpg

[Inadequacy]

I was hoping it would be John Jameson

[Rammsteinmad]

So what's his relationship with Parker like now? Is it still love Spidey/hate Peter, kinda curious as to why they would have to fight each other.

[Rammsteinmad]

And the way he's holding the gun in that picture looks incredibly awkward.

[Fignuts]

There is nothing they can do at this point, to make symbiotes interesting to me anymore. Oversaturation killed them forever for me.

Last time I was excited for anything involving a symbiote, was when sentry ripped carnage in half.

Instead of bringing back venom, they should bring back sentry, so he can throw every remaining symbiote into the sun.

[Fignuts]

Also, wtf, I know Flash served in the military, but have they referenced that at all, in the last like, 20 years? Has he ever even picked up a gun in that time?

Stupid.

[The Destroyer]

Also, wtf, I know Flash served in the military, but have they referenced that at all, in the last like, 20 years? Has he ever even picked up a gun in that time?

Stupid.
He rejoined the military a few years ago to fight in Iraq. And he came back home missing a few limbs.

[Fignuts]

Well then he obviously wasn't very good at it, so it still doesn't make sense.

[The Destroyer]

To be fair, it did earn him a recommendation for the Medal of Honor. Crazed heroics and the like.

[Nowhere Man]

Have they said that this Venom is actually a symbiote? Because he doesn't look particularly symbiote-ish to me.

[Kalyx triaD]

It is. And they're smarter about it this time, Flash has to remove the creature after a few days so he doesn't suffer the ill effects. We'll see how long that lasts, though.

[Lara Emily]

Venom needs to die off or go back to classic Brock, but preferably just die off. That new Venom looks awful and really Flash Thompson? Super lame.

[Kalyx triaD]

Super awesome.

[Lara Emily]

Not every character needs to have super powers

[Kalyx triaD]

Very true. Some of my favorite characters from our planned comic line have no powers.

[Kalyx triaD]

http://cache-01.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/8/2011/01/spidey14.png

[Rammsteinmad]

Good to see the Spider-Mobile makes an appearance in this film!

[Kalyx triaD]

http://www.empireonline.com/images/magazine/cover.jpg

Hot damn I'm feelin patriotic right now. Gonna go punch a Mexican.

[Kalyx triaD]

snip

[Rammsteinmad]

I'm so jealous of Chris Evans.

[Kalyx triaD]

GB: How much you weighing?

Hugh Jackman: Right now, I’m at 210.

GB: Wow, so you’re going to be bigger this time? Last time, you looked about, what, 190?

HJ: Yeah, right, I was 190, something like that. I don’t know how much I want to give away about it, but Darren said with the last one, ‘Hey you looked great, but you’re so tall that in those long shots you looked kind of like Clint Eastwood, and that’s not Wolverine.” He said that Wolverine, in the comics, is powerful, stocky, you know, he’s short and thick. So he said, ‘I want you to go there, get bigger.’ He’s going to come down after he gets done with all the black-tie events over and done with.

Thanks, Darren!

[Blitz]

http://comingsoon.net/nextraimages/captainamericaempirenew1big.jpg

[Kalyx triaD]

So today we are more than happy to bring you a list of young up and coming actresses who are testing for a new female sidekick part in Joss Whedon’s “The Avengers”. Samuel L. Jackson, Nick Fury himself, told the Jimmy Fallon audiences last night that he would be meeting with five actresses tomorrow for a sidekick position opposite his character, and today THR reports that four of the five young ladies are Morena Baccarin, Jessica Lucas, Mary Elizabeth Winstead and Cobie Smulders.

While I presume the character in question is SHIELD mainstay, Maria Hill (who Morena would be perfect for), I gotta have hopes for my perfect woman Jessica Lucas. This could be her break, though she doesn't seem suited for Maria Hill (if she's the character).

Notes:

- Nick Fury will appear in Captain America and Thor this summer.
- Chris Evans is set to be Cap in six movies. What ratio of Captain America to Avengers movie aren't said. Bear in mind he could appear in Iron Man and that could count. Many of these deals are unique in that actors are signed to appear as their characters, but not signed to particular movies. The sixth movie could be Civil War for all we know. I imagine Marvel will push out bargain priced movies and save big spending for cross over films. They'd also have the actors rotate as to service their own careers and keep them 'fresh'. So Chris Evans may cameo as Cap in Iron Man 3 and then star in Captain America 2 the year after. These are just my stab at 'industry analyzing'.

[Sixx]

Errr, Cobbie Smulders as Maria Hill would most definetely not work.

And Morena Baccarin? We know she looks hot even if short hair, so yeah.

http://www.thescifiworld.net/img/interviews/morena_baccarin_05.jpg

[Lock Jaw]

http://www.comicbookresources.com/assets/images/articles/1296840727.jpg

[Kalyx triaD]

Gonna go punch another Mexican.

[Fignuts]

While I presume the character in question is SHIELD mainstay, Maria Hill (who Morena would be perfect for), I gotta have hopes for my perfect woman Jessica Lucas. This could be her break, though she doesn't seem suited for Maria Hill (if she's the character).

Notes:

- Nick Fury will appear in Captain America and Thor this summer.
- Chris Evans is set to be Cap in six movies. What ratio of Captain America to Avengers movie aren't said. Bear in mind he could appear in Iron Man and that could count. Many of these deals are unique in that actors are signed to appear as their characters, but not signed to particular movies. The sixth movie could be Civil War for all we know. I imagine Marvel will push out bargain priced movies and save big spending for cross over films. They'd also have the actors rotate as to service their own careers and keep them 'fresh'. So Chris Evans may cameo as Cap in Iron Man 3 and then star in Captain America 2 the year after. These are just my stab at 'industry analyzing'.

Errr, Cobbie Smulders as Maria Hill would most definetely not work.

And Morena Baccarin? We know she looks hot even if short hair, so yeah.

http://www.thescifiworld.net/img/interviews/morena_baccarin_05.jpg

It might not be maria hill. I would guess it's Daisy Johnson, his protege in the comics since secret war.

[Rammsteinmad]

Every pic I see of Chris Evans makes me more and more jealous.

[Confused]

They done a great job with the Captain America costume.

Be interesting to see how they modify it for the modern day parts of the movie.

[Kalyx triaD]

Fuck that, use the same one.

[Confused]

Fuck that, use the same one.

If I were in charge I'd quite happily let that happen.

Seeing as its a movie company looking to make a profit making the decisions...

[Kalyx triaD]

Sure, Halloween season and such.

[Fignuts]

Fairly confident he'll be using the same look, present day.

[Confused]

Fingers crossed they do. I'm not so confident though.

Would have to say, of all the superhero costumes I've seen put together for movies, this Captain America costume is by far the best.

[Miotch]

http://www.joblo.com/newsimages1/captain%20empire1.jpg

I'm guessing that's from the newer part of the film based on the head gear.

[Sixx]

It might not be maria hill. I would guess it's Daisy Johnson, his protege in the comics since secret war.

Doesn't she look the same as Maria Hill anyway?

[Graspbymyself]

Why is the Johnny Storm playing Captian America? What the hell is Marvel thinking? They fuck up the stories to "keep it fresh" then cast the same actor for two different but huge roles in the Marvel universe. Hollywood just blows the big one.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Why is the Johnny Storm playing Captian America? What the hell is Marvel thinking? They fuck up the stories to "keep it fresh" then cast the same actor for two different but huge roles in the Marvel universe. Hollywood just blows the big one.

http://www.odoe.net/jackfaces/images/jacksmack.gif

[Fignuts]

Why is the Johnny Storm playing Captian America? What the hell is Marvel thinking? They fuck up the stories to "keep it fresh" then cast the same actor for two different but huge roles in the Marvel universe. Hollywood just blows the big one.

Because some actors can play more than one type of role, and the fantastic four movies have nothing to do with, and are not connected to the avengers movies?

[Fignuts]

See if you can GRASP that concept.

ROFL

[McLegend]

People who bitch about Chris Evans playing Human torch and Captain America are tools.

However if you are bitching because you don't think Chris Evans is good enough to play Captain America then that's legitmate.

[McLegend]

I can't wait to see the trailer btw.

[Fignuts]

Dunno, everything I've seen him in, his character was vastly different than the last. He seems really versatile. And he has the look, so no worries there.

[McLegend]

I think he plays the same thing in vitrually every movie, and I enjoy his movies. I just don't think he's Captain America.

[Sixx]

He looks awesome in the suit.

Dunno about his acting, don't recall any films with him other than F4, which I won't even comment on.

[McLegend]

He does look good and that's half the battle.

[Kalyx triaD]

It did feel strange, but Fantastic Four is with Fox (and pretty much failed/abandoned). Chris Evans got a big break, get over it.

[Fignuts]

Johnny storm was the best thing about the old ff movies.

[McLegend]

Storm was 2nd. The Thing was the best.

[Kalyx triaD]

Why the hell was Jessica Alba Sue Storm? I will never get over that.

[McLegend]

She is pretty hot.

[Kalyx triaD]

During Dark Angel.

[Lock Jaw]

Never saw any of the FF movies. Gonna be weird if I watch them after I see Captain America.

[McLegend]

During Dark Angel.

She's still hot, bro.

[Kalyx triaD]

Eh.

[Fignuts]

I'd rather nail jessica alba than jessica lucas.

BOOM

[Kalyx triaD]

Whatever frees up Ms Lucas for me.

[Kalyx triaD]

Love her.

[Shadow]

Why is the Johnny Storm playing Captian America? What the hell is Marvel thinking? They fuck up the stories to "keep it fresh" then cast the same actor for two different but huge roles in the Marvel universe. Hollywood just blows the big one.

You're a cute little troll.

[Inadequacy]

I wish they would do something with the invaders. Have like the original robotic human torch be modeled after steve rogers or something. Then Chris Evans could play Captain America and the Human Torch in the same movie.

Or whatever.

[LuigiD]

I was going to reply to that...but..half-way through I was like eh..not worth it.

[Lock Jaw]

http://blog.newsarama.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/captain-america-and-bucky.jpg

Well, that sullen looking fella beside Cap is Bucky.

[Kalyx triaD]

Is that the classic costume I see!?

[dronepool]

Not movie news but can't wait for this

http://www.bleedingcool.com/wp-content/uploads//2011/02/MK_Teaser.jpg

[Kalyx triaD]

Wait... what?

[Lock Jaw]

Oh that Moon Knight. Stealing people's hands again!

[Sixx]

http://blog.newsarama.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/captain-america-and-bucky.jpg

Looks great.

Don't know what he needs the goggles for, though.

[Fignuts]

Diving out of airplanes, prolly.

[Fignuts]

He does that. Without a parachute. Cause "Parachutes are for sissys."

[dronepool]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v497/spidermedia/142.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v497/spidermedia/140.png

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[Fignuts]

Looks like a pretty fucking good captain america to me.

[Juan]

:heart: Agent Smith

[Sixx]

So did they say if he's gonna change into Red Skull or just be Johann Schmidt the whole movie?

I'm kinda scared they might fuck up the Red Skull so I think I'd prefer the latter.

[Fignuts]

Nah, he'll be the red skull.

[Sixx]

But there are no pics yet, right?

[Rammsteinmad]

Loving the pics. Evans certainly looks like Captain America/Steve Rogers.

[Fignuts]

But there are no pics yet, right?

Not yet. Wonder if there even will be, before it comes out.

[Rammsteinmad]

He'll get 'plastic surgery' ala the 1990 movie. :mad:

[Sixx]

I don't really get how Nick Fury fits there into the WWII scenario.

I thought he aged normally?

[Rammsteinmad]

In the normal Marvel Universe he had the Infinity Formula that made him age slowly. No idea with this once since it's based on the Ultimate Fury.

[The Destroyer]

He was dosed with the super soldier serum in the Ultimate universe.

[Kalyx triaD]

The female sidekick is indeed Maria Hill.

[dronepool]

I don't really get how Nick Fury fits there into the WWII scenario.

I thought he aged normally?

This is for regular Nick, not sure which backround story they'll use

Nick Fury's aging has been slowed greatly by the Infinity Formula, a serum created by Dr. Berthold Sternberg. Fury was first inoculated with the serum in the 1940s. Fury took the serum annually for many years. Due to its cumulative effect, Fury no longer needs additional doses to prolong his life span.

[Lock Jaw]

Doesn't Thor come out before Captain America? Seems like there is like... this flood of new Cap pictures and stills.... but nothing much from Thor.

[Sixx]

So they are showing the first trailer today during the Superbowl, right?

[Kalyx triaD]

Most likely.

And Thor had a lot of press weeks ago, plenty of pics and such right here.

[McLegend]

O shit

[Fignuts]

Damn, was hoping for a longer trailer. Still looks awesome.

Hugo does indeed rip his own face off to reveal the red skull.

[Fignuts]

Right then, transformers, super 8, captain america, thor, and cowboys & aliens.

Can stop watching the superbowl now.

[McLegend]

Yes he did.

[Fignuts]

Wait, who is doing the halftime show?

[McLegend]

Black eyed peas

[Fignuts]

Call of Duty it is.

[Sixx]

Is the trailer online yet?

[Fignuts]

Prolly not. Nothing on youtube at least.

[Lock Jaw]

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[Lock Jaw]

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[Sixx]

Wow. Short but sweet.

Paused at Red Skull and that motherfucker's looking good.

[Blitz]

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[Blitz]

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[Sixx]

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He totally looks like Red Skull, yet you can still tell who's the actor.

Perfect.

[Sixx]

And wow at computer-made skinny Rogers.

Can't fucking wait.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

That Red Skull looks sweet

[Kalyx triaD]

Woooooooooooooo

[McLegend]

That is sick.

[dronepool]

Awesome.

[Kalyx triaD]

YouTube HDs:

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[Jeritron]

Still not sold on Thor, but Captain America looks great so far.

It's only a 30 second spot, but I'm getting the earnest WW2 vibe I wanted. Plus I can't get over how good the suit looks. I didn't think the Cap suit could look that good IRL.

Red Skull looking pretty badass

[LuigiD]

At 0:21 on the Cap trailer..is that guy with the hat Duggan? if so..-marks out-

[Lock Jaw]

Looks like it very well could be (and probably is)

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[Kalyx triaD]

That's him.

[Fignuts]

Fuck yeah

[Rammsteinmad]

Wow holy fucking shit! I know it's just a 30 second clip but fuck me that looks good.

'Dude, I just filled the cup' indeed.

[Fignuts]

http://i.enewsi.com/g/albums/Entertainment/Captain_America/Bucky_Sniper.jpg

[Nowhere Man]

Holy shit, they're actually throwing in the Howling Commandos? Awesome.

[Sixx]

So does the whole movie take place in the WWII era?

[Kalyx triaD]

98%, so they say.

[Reavant]

sam jackson said in an interview on either letterman or conan that he hasnt even shot the scenes in thor or captain america and that they were going to be like his apperance in iron man... im assuming 1. So he prolly wont show up in the ww2 era

[Lock Jaw]

Post credits Cap scene will probably be something like this:

Nick Fury: We've found something.

*shot of Cap in ice*

[Sixx]

Namor should be present when discovering Cap.

Then again I don't really want to see that thong-wearing motherfucker in a movie.

[Kalyx triaD]

Cause we're against that in a pro-wrestling forum.

[Jeritron]

I've just never really liked Namor. Probably my least favorite "main" Marvel hero

[Sixx]

I used "thong-wearing" for fun, I just don't like this character.

Don't be such an asshole.

[Fignuts]

Love namor. I would of thought sixx would like him too, given how big of an asshole namor is, and how he solves most problems by punching them.

[Kalyx triaD]

Ultimate Namor's pretty badass, but I can't say more about him in general.

[Fignuts]

I like the more regal tone of the regular namor better. He's like the heroes version of dr. doom.

Ultimate namor is just a punk.

[Kalyx triaD]

My kind of punk.

[LuigiD]

Can't believe the heat Namor is getting.
Have always been huge into Namor. Loved the mini-series they did with him after Civil War.
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[Lock Jaw]

Never understood the tiny wings on his feet.

[Kalyx triaD]

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"Future Foundation"

Discuss.

[Miotch]

Fucking Faggots

[loopydate]

Wow. That's pretty terrible-looking. They look like stormtroopers.

[Kalyx triaD]

Good thing I love Star Wars.

[Fignuts]

I think it looks neat. If they are just replacing johnny storm with spider-man tho, I dunno why they don't just keep going by fantastic four.

[dronepool]

They look awesome.

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[Nowhere Man]

Hmmmm.......

I actually really like the new uniforms. Makes them look more like a "crazy-super-science-bullshit" task force.

Not sure about Spider-Man being on the team, though. I don't mind him being friends with them and maybe filling in for an interim position, but Spidey just works better as a solo guy to me.

[Kalyx triaD]

They could have plucked out a c-lister and gave him a push on the revamped team, but damn Spidey looks good in that suit.

[Fignuts]

Hmmmm.......

I actually really like the new uniforms. Makes them look more like a "crazy-super-science-bullshit" task force.

Not sure about Spider-Man being on the team, though. I don't mind him being friends with them and maybe filling in for an interim position, but Spidey just works better as a solo guy to me.

Used to think so too, but the chemistry he has with his teamates on the avengers, has proven that he works great on a team.

Spidey dialogue has been one of the best parts of the past few avengers books, and I expect similar greatness from his interactions with the thing.

[Fignuts]

Hate anything with kids in it, and they have been featured prominently in ff for a while now, so I probably won't pick this up.

[Fignuts]

Speaking of avengers, if you are not reading Avengers, New Avengers, and Avengers Academy, then get off your ass. You're gonna want to read them. Especially Avengers.

[dronepool]

I read New Avengers, Avengers and Secret Avengers. Love all 3.

[parkmania]

Not really up on my Marvel continuity - any chance FF Spidey is Ben Reilly?

[LuigiD]

Never understood the tiny wings on his feet.

Then you really want to read that series. Something "special" happens to them.

[Kalyx triaD]

Where the hell is Reilly anyway?

[Lock Jaw]

Oh yeah, I remember now. (I have read that series)

[dronepool]

Where the hell is Reilly anyway?

He's been dead ever since the Clone Saga.

[Kalyx triaD]

Really? Damn.

[parkmania]

OK, then, if not Reilly, how about Anti-Venom? It's the right color scheme.

[dronepool]

It's Peter, 100%. Johnny and Pete were good friends. It does fit the Anti-Venom scheme but having Eddie and not Peter team with them makes no sense and don't forget Spider-Man does change outfits for different situations and I'm sure Reed Richards designed it for Peter, for whatever mission they need it for.

[parkmania]

Fair enough - I'm just trying to find an excuse for it NOT to be Peter.

[dronepool]

I don't mind though, actually even if he's on 3 teams+soloing, it's not all happening at once so I'm cool with it, plus remember Johnny's death was just the end of the first big chapter (out of 3) the writer has planned, so this isn't forever I think.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Sorry, don't read FF. Why and how did Johnny die?

[dronepool]

The basics from Wiki-

In the "Three" storyline, concluding in Fantastic Four #587 (cover date March 2011, published January 26, 2011), the Human Torch apparently dies stopping a horde of monsters from the other dimensional Negative Zone. The series is scheduled to end with the following issue, #588, and relaunch in March 2011 as simply FF.


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[Kalyx triaD]

That honestly tugs at me. Good panels.

[Fignuts]

I read the issue Johnny dies. He goes out like a champ, and it's very well done. Though it should be noted, it doesn't actually show him dying. I can see him coming back a while from now.

[Funky Fly]

Never understood the tiny wings on his feet.

He's a mutant.

[Fignuts]

Lifesize Venom bust. Pretty cool. Though if I'm gonna spend that kind of money I'd prolly get a different character.

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[Rammsteinmad]

I read the issue Johnny dies. He goes out like a champ, and it's very well done. Though it should be noted, it doesn't actually show him dying. I can see him coming back a while from now.

You say that as if it's possible he won't come back.

[Lock Jaw]

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Eh.

[Boondock Saint]

Better than I expected to be honest. We shall see.

[McLegend]

So this movie is related to the 3 X-men movies?

[Rammsteinmad]

Doesn't look too terrible, but not really tingling with anticipation.

[Kalyx triaD]

Gotta admit, looks watchable. Continuity gaffs still rub me wrong, I'll wait for more coverage.

[McLegend]

This is a prequel?

[Reavant]

damn... actually looks kinda cool

[dronepool]

First Class looks better than those dumb pics we had before.

[Kalyx triaD]

The slow, heavy rock track that's all the rage with trailers these days helps a bit too.

[parkmania]

So, Angel has dragonfly wings instead of "angel" wings...


:nono:

[Kalyx triaD]

She's fucking pretty, though.

But they should seriously call her Pixie.

[LuigiD]

Is that an alternate Bay of Pigs invasion with the X-Men involved? :naughty:

[Reavant]

So, Angel has dragonfly wings instead of "angel" wings...


:nono:

I thought that was wasp? :wtf:

[Kalyx triaD]

Wasp isn't a mutant.

[dronepool]

http://i.annihil.us/u/prod/marvel/i/mg/e/03/4d52c27960865.jpg

[Fignuts]

So, Angel has dragonfly wings instead of "angel" wings...


:nono:

For the last !@#$%ing time, it's based on a different angel.

[Fignuts]

Wasp isn't a mutant.

She is in the ultimate universe. And they seem to like to mix and match 616 and ultimate un these movies.

[parkmania]

For the last !@#$%ing time, it's based on a different angel.

So I finally went and wiki'd her. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel_Salvadore .

I've still never heard of her, and am willing to bet that anyone with only casual knowledge of the X-Universe will join me in assuming a character named Angel will be a permutation of the Warren Worthington III character.

[Rammsteinmad]

Isn't she the one who had babies with Beak a few years back?

Edit: Decided not to be lazy and read the wikipedia page.

[Lara Emily]

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A) Ugly as fuck b) Why the fuck did they kill off Johnny Storm, undo that shit right now. Replacing him with Spider-Man, stupid as fuck. There are certain things you shouldn't mess with the Fantastic Four lineup is one of them.

Edit: Oh what the fuck even worse this is the end of the Fantastic Four they're being renamed The Future Foundation WTF is this shit?

Seriously stupid stupid stupid stupid

[mitch_h]

I thought that X-Men trailer looked better than the lousy looking Thor and Green Lantern trailer.

[Fignuts]

A) Ugly as fuck b) Why the fuck did they kill off Johnny Storm, undo that shit right now. Replacing him with Spider-Man, stupid as fuck. There are certain things you shouldn't mess with the Fantastic Four lineup is one of them.

Edit: Oh what the fuck even worse this is the end of the Fantastic Four they're being renamed The Future Foundation WTF is this shit?

Seriously stupid stupid stupid stupid

Nonsense.

Nothing is off limits as long as there is good writing behind it. Winter Soldier should have taught everyone that.

I like bold moves like this one. It shows that people aren't willing to put creativity aside for the sake of offending traditionalist thinkers. That is probably why I like Grant Morrison, because it defines his career.

Now that isn't to say I am going to automatically praise anything like this. In fact, the risk is great with this type of move, because it is either a huge success, or a huge failure. There is no inbetween.

That said, I know enough about judging a book by it's cover, and how many times I've been wrong in doing so in this industry, to know that it would be unwise to condemn it, before I even read the fucking thing.

[The Destroyer]

A) Ugly as fuck b) Why the fuck did they kill off Johnny Storm, undo that shit right now. Replacing him with Spider-Man, stupid as fuck. There are certain things you shouldn't mess with the Fantastic Four lineup is one of them.

Edit: Oh what the fuck even worse this is the end of the Fantastic Four they're being renamed The Future Foundation WTF is this shit?

Seriously stupid stupid stupid stupid
Not like the lineup hasn't been messed with before. Even if it'll likely go back to the original status quo some day, what's the harm in trying something new?

[dronepool]

Nonsense.

Nothing is off limits as long as there is good writing behind it. Winter Soldier should have taught everyone that.

I like bold moves like this one. It shows that people aren't willing to put creativity aside for the sake of offending traditionalist thinkers. That is probably why I like Grant Morrison, because it defines his career.

Now that isn't to say I am going to automatically praise anything like this. In fact, the risk is great with this type of move, because it is either a huge success, or a huge failure. There is no inbetween.

That said, I know enough about judging a book by it's cover, and how many times I've been wrong in doing so in this industry, to know that it would be unwise to condemn it, before I even read the fucking thing.

Well said.

:y:


Blah, blah, blah, wah! change, change!

Fantastic Four has been at it's best in years, this is just part of a greater scheme of things. As for Spider-Man replacing Johnny... uh hello? They were friends and Spider-Man was ALWAYS close to them. He's smart and powerful, very useful to the team. Don't like it? Read something else or there's always "classic" stuff out there. The goal here is to sell the book better than it has been doing and it needs an epic story, this is it. Keeping things stagnant and 'safe' for too long is never a good thing either.

It's not like this is permanent anyway, they have like 12 issues and then once sales start to lower, bam! time for issue 600 because FF is getting cut off after 588. Just enough to tell a year long story and start the third chapter with a reverted issue 600.







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[Lara Emily]

Don't worry I don't plan on reading it. I follow comics through Trades every so often and mostly through plot summaries. I still say those costumes are awful.

Isn't Spider-Man now a member of the Avengers, The New Avengers and the FF?

[Fignuts]

Characters being on multiple teams has never really bothered me.

[LuigiD]

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[parkmania]

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[Rammsteinmad]

To be fair, the Fantastic Four has been a major part of the Marvel Universe for so long, it's not like they'll be this way forever. I give it a year, two at the most, before the Human Torch comes back somehow and the Future Foundation becomes the Fab 4 again.