Marvel Universe Thread

[Kalyx triaD]

Logan Vs Japan, Bub:

For the next Wolverine movie, Logan will be facing skilled warrior's who aren't even mutants. Visually, they're working on a new way for Logan to fight with his claws as this sequel seems to aim for a martial arts presentation. Have we really been watching Wolverine go all animal for ten years? This should be cool. Fox is hooking up with their Japan branch for authenticity and they will film in Japan as well. The X-Men movies are liked in Japan so this movie should be an international spooning.

Class Is In:

The X-Men reboot, First Class is looking to the latter Harry Potter movies as inspiration (I don't watch the Potter films... is this good?). They want this to be a franchise so the casting will be important. If you're anything like me the only thing on your mind is OMG THERE'S NO X4?! :( :foc:

Say It With Me, "Merc... with a MOUTH":

Hey you, reading this update - yeah YOU. Kalyx wants you to know that they're gonna ignore my cousin, Barakapool. They're gonna reboot me, baby - origin and all! In fact... if those gray suits at Fox read my threatening- ah... I mean business proposals, my movie will have all the dark comedy and 4th wall breaking I want! The tricky part is getting a writer as crazy as me... Who wrote that Chun Li movie, again? It's not what you think - there's 30Gs on his head and Mystique has a head start!

...See what I did there?

...

Whatever, go back to reading your nerdy forum, loser!

[Kalyx triaD]

Newbies Join Thor:

Jude Law and Robert De-freakin-Niro has joined Thor's impressive cast. What parts could they be playing?

[Rammsteinmad]

A Deadpool movie with the humour/4th wall breaking could be awesome. I thought Ryan Reynolds was great in the Wolverine film. :y:

[Rammsteinmad]

In fact, Deadpool in the 'Wolverine VS Hulk' animated feature is pretty much perfect. They need to do a Deadpool movie with him like that.

Played by Ryan Reynolds. :D

[Kalyx triaD]

Yeah, Deadpool in Vs Hulk was awesome.

[Kalyx triaD]

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[Vastardikai]

"Hey Logan! It's me, Deadpool! I SHOT YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

[Kalyx triaD]

Anthony Hopkins to Play Odin in Thor.

[Rammsteinmad]

Hmm... really can't picture that.

[Skippord]

Anthony Hopkins can do well at whatever he decides

[Fignuts]

Yeah, Anthony Hopkins could play a fork, and give an oscar worthy performance.

[Skippord]

gives me an idea for a new live action beauty and the beast

[mitchables]

Planet Hulk trailer:
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Hope they don't fuck it up, I really liked that series.

[Kalyx triaD]

Lots of Hulk love on the animated front.

[Lock Jaw]

Didn't know they were making a movie. I'll definitely have to check that one out.

[Shadow]

Lot easier to do Hulk stuff on the Animated front.

Think the Surfer will be in this one?

[Dave Youell]

So Hulk is Russell Crowe now?

[Kalyx triaD]

No.

[Fignuts]

AWESOME.

Hope it leads to a World War Hulk movie.

[Kalyx triaD]

It is a WWH movie. But if you mean live-action, don't hold your breath. I have a theory on how Marvel's gonna craft their live action universe in the future but it's speculation for now. I will say that I feel the days of direct comic-adaptation are coming to a close.

[Fignuts]

No, it's planet hulk movie.

World war hulk is the sequel to planet hulk, and is about hulk returning to earth to beat the shit out of the illuminati.

[Kalyx triaD]

WHOOPS. I fucked up major. Thanks.

[Shadow]

No, it's planet hulk movie.

World war hulk is the sequel to planet hulk, and is about hulk returning to earth to beat the shit out of the illuminati.

If they believe this does well you can bet they'll throw in a World War Hulk sequal.

I for one can't wait for that to happen.

[Indifferent Clox]

yeah i'm gonna pick up Planet Hulk and read WWH while waiting for the next one. I read planet hulk months ago, amazing. I never really liked hulk as much as other heroes, but now he is in my top 5

Super Heroes (non vertigo)
1. Green Lantern
2. Batman
3. Deadpool
4. Hulk
5. Iron Man

[Kalyx triaD]

Ghost Rider 2 will take place 8 years after the first. Kinda surprised they're doing this as a sequel and not a reboot. Cage is good as back.

[Dave Youell]

Ghost Rider 2 will take place 8 years after the first. Kinda surprised they're doing this as a sequel and not a reboot. Cage is good as back.

Well, I never hated the first one, I just didn't think it was all that good

[Kalyx triaD]

Ignorance Is Bliss: Singer's X3:

When Bryan Singer left to make Superman Returns he took his writer, Michael Doughtry with him - even as they were kicking around X3 ideas. What we got in it's stead was a superhero movie directed by the guy who did Rush Hour. But what of Singer and Doughtry's version of X-Men 3?

Well... it would have been fucking epic.

Here's Doughtry discussing for the first time an outline of their X3 (full quote):

"The idea was that you open up with Alkali Lake but it's completely barren and dried up and there are these odd reports of strange phenomena going on around the world accompanied by bright lights in the sky.

"The idea would be that both the X-Men and the Brotherhood realise that essentially a very god-like force had entered their reality and that it was causing disruptions around the world, you know mutant prisons being decimated, I had pitched an idea about a fleet of cargo ships getting torn apart in the Atlantic and you found out that they were shuttling mutants as slave labour.

"You found out was that Phoenix was going round the world taking things into her own hands and that she had basically returned as a god, which they did in X3. She had viewed herself as above the conflict, that she was here to end things on her terms, she was sick of the fighting and she was going to take things into her own hands and she did not give a s**t what the X-Men or the Brotherhood had to say about it.

"And ultimately the way it was going to end, at least the version I was pushing for, would be that Phoenix was kind of like the Starchild at the end of 2001, she didn't just get stabbed and die again, but she kind of chose to leave.

"The one idea that I loved, that I really wanted to do, was that Cyclops would build the Danger Room. He felt guilty that because the X-Men were too weak, they weren't strong enough or fast enough, that was the reason Jean died. If they were a little bit better at fighting, then she might still be alive. It was all about this guilt he had about her death and he built the Danger Room to train them to be better. In the end it really was about him not being able to let go of her and that causes the chaos and disruption in the movie and in the end it's about him letting her go.

"Ultimately she kind of becomes that cosmic force that Phoenix is known to be, she leaves Earth and becomes a god or at least a higher level of intelligence and she goes into the cosmos possibly to kick-start life somewhere else. The final scene for me would have been her telling Cyclops or her telling the X-Men 'I'll be watching.'"

God... dammit.

Never Cross A Black Cat:

Sam Raimi is looking for a female lead to portray Felicia Hardy, who we all know to be the Black Cat. The front runner right now is Rachal McAdams. This confirms a character never spoken about previously. They're also looking for a male lead for a villain, but that's a little more mysterious.

Dylan Baker is back has Dr. Kurt Conners, and I'm reading that he'll finally do the Lizard thing this time. Does this mean we have two villains for Spidey 4?

[Rammsteinmad]

AWESOME.

Hope it leads to a World War Hulk movie.

Exactly what I was thinking.

[Kalyx triaD]

Never Pet A Black Cat, Either:

We know Black Cat is in Spidey 4, but now we have a story to go along with the reveal:

Apparently she is the daughter of the new editor of The Daily Bugle, a man who is also referred to as ‘a viper' (more on this in a second). She falls in love with Peter Parker, and uncovers his true identity. Her father then dies, and Hardy becomes a threat to Peter Parker (presumably as The Black Cat).

Does everybody hate Peter after their father dies?

[DaveBrawl]

Well if he would quit impaling them with flying platforms...

[Lock Jaw]

So Randy Orton is gonna be the new editor of the Daily Bugle?

[Kalyx triaD]

Sources:

IGN.com
Superherohype.com
Latino Review
io9.com

[Kalyx triaD]

Marvel is confident about Thor:

We are incredibly confident [about the movie]. And there isn't much I could say to convince people beyond, "Look at these designs! Look at this script! Look at the moments in this story and tell me it won't be a huge success." But, that's obviously something I can't do, so the one thing I can say – and I've said as much to Marvel Studios head Kevin Feige – is that people are going to go into this movie with a preconceived idea about what it will be. If you're a comics fan, you'll have a preconceived notion of what you're going to get. If you're a non-comics fan, you'll have another notion of what the movie is all about. And what's really amazing is that both groups will walk away going, "I've never seen anything like this before within the super hero genre." It's so cool, and I don't want to use the word unusual, but it is unusual in the sense that it redefines what a super hero movie can be. It's not the expected story or settings. That part of it is incredibly exciting to me.

[Kalyx triaD]

Jeremy Renner is apparently in serious talks to play Hawkeye in both Thor and The Avengers.

[Funky Fly]

Not a bad casting.

[Blitz]

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/4289/im2teaserposter.jpg

[Shadow]

That's sexy.

[Vastardikai]

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/4289/im2teaserposter.jpg

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[Fignuts]

SWEET CHRISTMAS THATS AWESOME

[LuigiD]

Jeremy Renner is apparently in serious talks to play Hawkeye in both Thor and The Avengers.

I read about it.
He is already dissing the costume. I am pretty torn up about the costumes in super hero movies. While some stay true to the source and look great(Iron Man, Batman, Spider-Man) others just look awful. I mean, Hawkeye does not feel like Hawkeye if it is just a guy wearing a trench coat with a bow. But it looks absolutely stupid if it's a guy wearing a big purple mask.

[Fignuts]

ultimate hawkeye could work.

[Kalyx triaD]

Yeah, Ultimate Hawkeye is cool.

[Kalyx triaD]

Renner, BTW, wasn't dissing the costume so much as saying they're modernizing the look. I think he's coming at it with respect.

[LuigiD]

http://www.filmwad.com/marvel-theme-park-coming-to-dubai-1952-p.html

Apparently a Marvel theme park is being built and is scheduled to be done in 2012. Unfortunately..the park is being built in..Dubai?
I know that Dubai is a hot and upcoming place with tons of resorts, etc. But I am sorry..I don't see a lot of people traveling all the way to Dubai. Specially with the way the economy is going and xenophobia. I am really impressed by the decision to be honest..but whatever..seems like a dream come true but I doubt many will ever even bother to visit.

[Kalyx triaD]

An entire theme park... Should be interesting.

[Skippord]

I'll go to Dubai for it

[Kalyx triaD]

Isn't there already a superhero themed park near Universal Studios?

[Skippord]

there's a superhero part of Universal Studios Islands Of Adventure

[Kalyx triaD]

I guess that's it. I never been.

[Skippord]

it's not that good

Dr. Doom's ride sucks a cock

[Jeritron]

It's small too. The "islands" are usually one major ride, and a few small ones. Other than that its just themed gift shops and food stands.

But Spiderman The Ride is the best ride ever. Literally

[LuigiD]

I second the Spider-Man ride thought.
The park is not exciting. I mean, it is cool don't get me wrong but don't expect too much. The Hulk and Spider-Man ride are the highlights. Dr. Doom's Tower of terror or whatever is kinda lame.

[Jeritron]

but in it's defense it's not a park. It's just one section of a larger park

[Vastardikai]

I second the Spider-Man ride thought.
The park is not exciting. I mean, it is cool don't get me wrong but don't expect too much. The Hulk and Spider-Man ride are the highlights. Dr. Doom's Tower of terror or whatever is kinda lame.

Me and my friends were pissed at the lameness of Dr. Doom's Tower of Terror. A villian as awesome as Doom deserves better than this.

[Jeritron]

What's extraordinarily lame about it is that it's a common style of ride, but a really weak version. They have epic versions of the same ride at basically every Six Flags. Why they couldn't make the Dr. Doom one the same size or bigger is beyond me. It's Universal Fuckin Studios not a traveling carnival

[Skippord]

I love The Hulk's roller coaster

[Rammsteinmad]

I would travel to Dubai for a Marvel Theme Park. Seriously.

[Kalyx triaD]

It would seem Zombieland writers, Rhett Reese and Paul Wernick have been tapped to write the Deadpool movie. Word is they're crazy enough to do it. Hmm...

[Ermaximus]

I love The Hulk's roller coaster

Have you ever been during Halloween Horror Nights? They run the coaster 1 trip through and then they run it backwards right after you think you are done.

[Skippord]

I don't recall ever getting to go on Halloween Horror Nights even though I want to really bad

going to Orlando in a few days though

[Blitz]

Ummmmm....interesting...

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/43313

Movieline has some interesting SPIDER-MAN 4 casting rumors; they say the following has been confirmed by "sources close to the film".

Their scoops illuminate who Anne Hathaway could be playing in the movie, and reveals how John Malkovich might also enter the mix.

If negotiations proceed according to plan, Malkovich will be playing Spider-Man’s nemesis the Vulture, who packs a punch despite his advanced age. The Vulture is able to fly through the air and brandish his sharp wings to attack Spider-Man.



As for Hathaway? She'd play Felicia Hardy, sort of.

unlike in the comic books, this Felicia Hardy doesn’t transform into the Black Cat. Instead, Raimi’s Felicia will become a brand-new superpowered figure called the Vulturess.



Why no Curt Connors/Lizard? Movieline says:

we hear that the suits simply can’t bring themselves to sign off on such an odd-looking enemy — instead, they’d rather hew closer to villains with a human face.

Malkovich as The Vulture would be great casting. The idea of "The Vulturess", I'm not so hot on. Especially at the expense of Black Cat.

[Kalyx triaD]

Assuming the Vultress thing is a swerve.

[Kalyx triaD]

Very excited for Anne joining the series, btw. Really like her.

[Destor]

i wont go to theaters if the vultress thing hapens.

[Skippord]

lol the vultress

[Shadow]

i wont go to theaters if the vultress thing hapens.

[Jeritron]

sounds fairly awful

[Kalyx triaD]

I doubt Sam Raimi would pull a stunt like that.

[Jeritron]

like what, make an awful spiderman movie?

[Kalyx triaD]

like what, make an awful spiderman movie?

Yeah, the studio had nothing to do with that. If his biggest mistake with the franchise was listening to the studio's ideas, than we have nothing to worry about when he has Spidey1/2 control again.

[Jeritron]

Well hopefully he pulls out a great movie, because Spiderman 2 is one of the best comic book movies ever.

Unfortunately, these rumors suck. Hopefully they're just that: rumors. Lizard and Black Cat will do

[Kalyx triaD]

I wouldn't mind Felicia Hardy just appearing in the movie and saving Black Cat for Spidey 5. We don't want villain overload again.

[Jeritron]

Yea that would be even better. I feel like the villain should just be there to provide conflict. The one villain format worked so much better. Then you can put much more focus on the conflicts in Peter Parker's life and how he balances them with being Spiderman and one well developed villain.

[Kalyx triaD]

House of Mouse on Marvel:

Disney president Bob Iger spoke about the future of Disney's merge with Marvel. He wants to expand on Marvel's less famous characters and see if some new franchises could come of it. And it would appear that Sony will keep Spidey for a little longer (no cross overs still). It's already clear that Fox will keep all things mutants for at least the next 5 years, so Disney seems to have a 'live and let live' attitude for current deals while reaching out to untapped material. Smart move.

Elsewhere, Marvel Comics Editor-in-Chief Joe Quesada has seen a rough cut of Iron Man 2. He seems to like it.

[Blitz]

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/2417/im2whiplashposter.jpg

[Kalyx triaD]

Hoping he gets full armor. He may terrorize 'Nascar' Tony but he doesn't look like a challenge for Iron Man.

[Vastardikai]

Disney needs to make a Moon Knight movie.

:shifty:

[Kalyx triaD]

More likely they're gonna jump on Power Pack like yellow on banana. And to be honest, I'd be for that production.

[Rammsteinmad]

I want another Punisher movie in the style of Warzone.

Get on it Disney!

[Kalyx triaD]

I doubt Disney would touch that one. They'd allow it though, as many Marvel characters can still be use by studios as they see fit. What Disney will actually put their hand in is still up in the air.

[Kalyx triaD]

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/8/2009/12/500x_misneydisplay.jpg

Not an official poster, but kinda awesome anyway. Gizmo-Duck and Iron Man FTW!

[LuigiD]

LOL at Namor with the mermaid.

[Jeritron]

Fucking awesome that The Incredibles is part of Marvel, in a roundabout way. They should really do some stuff with that because The Incredibles are incredible

[Jeritron]

I'd love to see The Incredibles interact with the classic comic book characters that they parody

[Jeritron]

lol find Beauty and The Beast

[Kalyx triaD]

Also, Gizmo-Duck looks badass. Did he always look that cool?

[Lock Jaw]

lol Stitch on the Silver Surfer's board.

[Skippord]

Namor and Ariel are going to get it on

[Kalyx triaD]

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[Kalyx triaD]

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h230/Kalyx_triaD/IM2Cap.jpg

Peep the triangular light on Iron Man.

[Shadow]

OH SHIT!

[Blitz]

Full Iron Man 2 trailer:

http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/ironman/

[Shadow]

OH FUCK YES!

[Lock Jaw]

I don't know if I can take a villain who looks like he is playing jump rope seriously. I probably can though.

[Shadow]

Whiplash will kill your ass. Just so you know.

[Rammsteinmad]

Looks awesome. Iron Man and War Machine fighting side-by-side :drool:

[Kalyx triaD]

This gets me horny for Avengers. It's gonna be a fiesta of craziness.

[Jeritron]

Bryan Singer confirms he's directing X-Men First Class.

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=61682

Why couldn't it just be a regular X-Men movie?

[Jon Kano]

Yeah FFS carry on the fucking story to bigger and better things. Jesus.

[Kalyx triaD]

Glad to see Singer back, but rather have X4 than a prequel.

[Jeritron]

I can't blame him for not wanting to clean up the mess that X3 left though. I mean 3 of his main characters are disintegrated. Would be tough to get things back on track.

[Jon Kano]

Xavier coulda come back through that body on Muir Island that was suggested at the end?

And bring in two other main eventers, actors and characters.

But I know what you mean, too much of a mess to clean up. But still, if he doesn't do it now, it will never get done :(

[Jeritron]

I think they passed the point of no return. I don't know what possesed them to do that to the franchise, but at this point all they got left is spinoffs and prequels. I'm not a fan of them. They blew the whole thing up for the hell of it. It gave the franchise no real future. They easily could have waited a year or so for Singer to finish Superman.

Plus they're burning through mutants like crazy. What's the point? The way they used major characters like Gambit, Beast, and Collossus was pretty pointless. Juggernaut too. And they just forgot about Nightcrawler? He went back to the Munich Circus I suppose...

[Jon Kano]

Stop it, you're making me upset.

[Jeritron]

gonna watch X2 today

[Jeritron]

It's clear to see though. You watch a movie like that and you see characters like Stryker and Nightcrawler introduced. They pull their weight in a major way and are well developed. They actually contribute something to the movie.

Then you have the non-Singer sequels. They're just throwing mutants out there. Just an excuse to get them in the trailer and on the toy racks, really. Why's Gambit in Wolverine? Oh yea, he does a few card tricks and then gives Logan a lift.

Juggernaut is just randomly on a truck and they adopt him in the brotherhood. No relation to Magneto? Why would they not be after a guy like him sooner? He just kinda tags along.
Archangel was pretty terrible too.

[Jeritron]

Kelsey Grammer as Beast was a fantastic casting job, but he was very minimal in the plot. He should have been a center-peice of the plot like Wolverine and Rogue were in the first, and Nightcrawler in the second.

[Kalyx triaD]

Nightcrawler didn't stay because the X-Men led a violent life [/X-Men Official Game]. Still pretty lame.

I mean, even after X3 tried it's best to merc the series, there's still ways to go on after that. There's a lot of mutants they could have pooled to rebuild the cast, and even more stories worth adapting. And just like the comics, when in doubt - put Wolverine in it. Although I'd elect to have a new male lead (Josh Holloway as a grown up Gambit, and I'd practically let him write the contract himself) and of course... Sentinels (maybe the government got into the Danger Room's files and made prototypes based on what the mutants considered a challenge).

There's a lot of ways I would have taken it from X3, and I'm not a Hollywood writer. I'm assuming it's a not a creativity thing so much as a 'fresh start' thing. Which is weird because to continue the series from a reboot, you'll eventually tread on X1 and X2's territorial timeline... and then what? New Wolverine? Retold stories? Wolverine and by extension, Deadpool spun off the Singer verse. Fox clearly wants these features, their own continuity is looking skewed. Not that the lay man would care, these movies print money.

I just feel that if X-Men is to be rebooted at least let Marvel handle it and merge with their Avengers movie-verse.

[Jeritron]

There was so much left to do after the Phoenix saga too. As long as they kept Prof X and Cyclops in the game they could have done Appocalypse and Mr. Sinister.
Gambit and Beast obviously could have been introduced properly during this time.
And eventually Cable and Bishop could have been big hits.

[Kalyx triaD]

X3 was such a fucking mess franchise speaking. It wasn't even that bad a movie, but from a continuity standpoint - it just has weird story decisions. Who would kill Cyclops? They tried too many 'third movie must be epic' beats that they didn't have to, wasting characters and forcing plots (Rogue comes off weak).

[Jeritron]

Yea that's how I felt. I mean it was entertaining. They were just throwing bells and whistles at us, but it was watchable. Nowhere near as good as Singer's movies, but it wasn't Ghost Rider bad or anything. The only problem was there were these shocking moments where Prof X and Cyclops die and it's just like, "why?"
It's not always a good thing.

[LuigiD]

I agree with X3...
god..what an epic disappointment. I think the whole X-men movie franchise has been a disappointment. X2 was the most tolerable in my opinion. Nightcrawler was a fucking pussy in the movies. With the exception of a few character portrayals( speaking mostly for Wolverine), the whole thing is a fucking waste of time. I am all for a reboot.
By the way..how come the White Queen just looked like some lame ass from Portland, Oregon in Wolverine: Origins? The White Queen has always been hot as hell.

[Kalyx triaD]

Being that Origins takes place way back when, I didn't mind White Queen or Gambit. Between then and X3 they could easily have evolved into their comic versions (or as close as they could be).

[Jon Kano]

I agree with everything you guys just put.

Thinking about it, yinno what, I actually wouldn't care, would love it, and would see it as a brass yet awesome move if Singer just turned to the fans and said, 'yinno what, X3 was fucking shit, this is how it was supposed to of been done' - I mean its rarely done right, but how cool would it be if he just said 'I'm re-making, re-doing X3' - I'll fuckin pay to see it, and I know I'd prob love it.

[Skippord]

I'd like an X-Men movie with Mr. Sinister


by like I mean I would be incredibly super excited. just throwing that out there

[Indifferent Clox]

I made a comic about this guy who was really old and like upwards of 120 and he had been told by a doctor that he wouldn't live if he was struck very hard by a blow again. The doctor emphasizes this because the man is a warrior with many enemies, so his age is particularly intriguing.

The comic was about his last 10 days, but time skips quite randomly so it's interesting to see how it spread across ten comics. Much like my other comic about the guy whose superpowered bioengieneered advancements are found in others chosen by this crime boss. T

[Indifferent Clox]

And by much like I mean in length not premise.

[Rammsteinmad]

I think they should carry on the francise. Come on, they got Beast, Collosus, Storm, Iceman, Kitty Pryde, Wolverine, Angel, maybe Phoenix could come back and bring Cyclops with her? My point is that they've got the characters to build up a strong team. Maybe bring back Nightcrawler as well.

I'd love to see X4 with Apocalypse in it. Maybe Phoenix would come back to help the losing X-Men beat the big A, kinda like in Ultimate X-Men.

[Rammsteinmad]

Here's a pic I found that someone did on Photoshop. It's 'The Rock' Dwanyne Johnson as Apocalypse. Looks pretty cool IMO.

http://www.khanada.org/casting/TheRockApocalypse.jpg

[Reavant]

james earl jones as apocalypse would be perfect

[Reavant]

cgi'ing his head ojn the rocks body of course

[Kalyx triaD]

I would hate to have Apocalypse actually look like his comic form.

[Reavant]

would you rather have him be a shapless cloud?

[Kalyx triaD]

I'm almost certain there's something between his comic form and a fucking cloud. Degrees, people.

[Rammsteinmad]

If he looked more like Apocalypse from the Ultimate universe it'd be pretty cool.

[Reavant]

I'm almost certain there's something between his comic form and a fucking cloud. Degrees, people.

well these people making the movies dont see it that way

[Kalyx triaD]

BarakaPool

[Reavant]

and you were happy with that?

[Lock Jaw]

Kick-Ass is looking pretty kick-ass.

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[Rammsteinmad]

Wow, I've not ever heard of this Kick-Ass movie, but that looks pretty sweet!

[LuigiD]

Apparently the Magneto movie is off..which I don't care about since the whole idea did not sound very interesting to begin with.

[Kalyx triaD]

Seconded.

[parkmania]

Actually, it sounds like a large chunk of the Magneto movie might end up being covered in the First Class movie.

[Kalyx triaD]

Doubt that.

[parkmania]

Joe Johnston, the director of Marvel Studios’ Captain America has revealed that he is working toward a June start for filming the The First Avenger: Captain America, which is slated for a July 22, 2011 debut.



In an article in Fangoria about Johnston’s remake of The Wolfman, Johnston told the interviewers that he was speaking from the Marvel Studios’ art department where he was readying the Captain America film for a June start. So far none of the cast of the Cap movie has been announced, though if the film is to begin principal photography in June, casting announcements will likely be made over the next few months.

[parkmania]

Shooting on Spider-Man 4 has been pushed back and the May 6, 2011 release date is in jeopardy, according to Deadline Hollywood. The problem is the script, which has been on a second rewrite since the summer (see "Gary Ross to Rewrite Spidey 4") and is still not ready to shoot. Crew members are being told to stand down until a new shooting start date is set.



Marvel movies (both from Marvel and its licensees) have aggressively staked out the first weekend in May (Free Comic Book Day!) for years, especially for Spider-Man, so the date will not be given up lightly, but a script would have to be approved soon for production to be completed in time.

[parkmania]

Rhett Reese and Paul Wernick have been signed to write the screenplay for Deadpool (see “Deadpool Movie in Development”), according to Variety. The pair wrote Zombieland and also did a draft of the Venom script.

The Deadpool movie is set to star Ryan Reynolds, who’s about to begin shooting Green
Lantern.

[thedamndest]

It's pretty fucked up to have Deadpool be Green Lantern. And have them both be Ryan Reynolds.

[Kalyx triaD]

It would seem Zombieland writers, Rhett Reese and Paul Wernick have been tapped to write the Deadpool movie. Word is they're crazy enough to do it. Hmm...

;)

[Kalyx triaD]

Ghost Rider 2 Bullet Points:

– Mark Steven Johnson is not directing the sequel

– Eva Mendes will not return as Roxanne Simpson

– Ghost Rider 2 (or Ghost Rider Spirit of Vengeance) will be a hard PG-13

– The film is going to take place in Europe

– De Luca is open to David Goyer directing the sequel but it all comes down to his very busy schedule

– Says the sequel will be like "pushing the reset button" on the franchise (LOL what franchise? it was one movie!)

– As you might expect from the success of Avatar, Ghost Rider 2 might be done in 3D

– Says Goyer has just delivered his updated outline to the studio

– And says Ghost Rider 2 could easily be in front of the cameras this year

[Kalyx triaD]

Spidey Speaks:

"Not only do I have specific ideas, but the ideas are evolving on the page," he said. "It's all happening right now. It's all sort of coming together. It's very exciting to me. I think the evolution of the character is really exciting, to be rooted in the history of what we've done already and to have a continuity, yet have a progression or evolution."

[Rammsteinmad]

So will Ghost Rider 2 have Nicolas Cage again? I hate seeing the same characters being played by different actors, as far as I'm concerned Nicolas Cage is Johnny Blaze.

[Kalyx triaD]

As far as I know there was no talk of replacing him, and Cage spoke about returning several time before.

[Funky Fly]

Sucks tho. Ghost Rider was bullshit. Decent popcorn flick, but my inner nerd was ready to burn down Hollywood.

[Kalyx triaD]

Hugh Jackman says Wolverine 2 may shoot in a year or so - 2011-ish. This would make the movie dropping in the 2012 timeframe (guessing Spring, May specifically if they wanna be historical). The next two years will be a pretty fruitful time for Marvel fans.

[Jeritron]

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=62262

[Kalyx triaD]

Cool.

[Lock Jaw]

The Hollywood Reporter's Heat Vision Blog confirmed late today that Spider-Man 4, a movie that had recently hit the brakes due to creative differences primarily over what villain the movie should use, has been outright canceled.

Columbia, Sony, and Marvel Studios will instead reboot the Spider-Man movie franchise, launching a new series of films with Peter Parker in high school, more similar to the take on the character seen in Marvel Comics' Ultimate Comics Spider-Man. With the relaunch, director Sam Raimi and stars Tobey Maguire and Kirsten Dunst, who had been involved with the first three big screen successes, all part ways with the franchise.

Raimi presented far from sour grapes, instead wishing Marvel luck saying, "the studio and Marvel have a unique opportunity to take the franchise in a new direction, and I know they will do a terrific job."

Too bad. Spider-Man and Spider-Man 2 were really good movies. Also, I generally hate movies starring high school kids.

[parkmania]

Oh joy, the next movie is gonna be featuring your "Friendly Neighborhood Twilight-Man".

[/sarcasm]

[Shadow]

I'm really hoping Marvel pulls the rights from Sony and goes their own way.

[Vastardikai]

Why am I seeing Michael Cera being cast as Spidey?

And why is this causing me to seethe in anger?

[Jon Kano]

A Spiderman reboot? .... jesus fucking christ are they actually going to do this?

http://www.imdb.com/news/ni1399651/

[Boondock Saint]

Not much desire to see this movie before and now I don't care at all.

[Kalyx triaD]

FUCK

Damn you, Sony.

FUCK

Well... Can Marvel at least take Spidey back and add him to the Movie-verse? If this is going to happen at the very least I'd like an Iron Man or Captain America cameo.

FUCK

[Lock Jaw]

Nah. Sony is probably just going to rush making another Spider-Man movie just so they can still keep the rights.

[parkmania]

Principal photography has begun on Marvel Studios’ production of Thor, which is being directed by Kenneth Brannagh and will debut on May 6th, 2011. The cast includes Chris Hemsworth in the title role, Tom Hiddleston as Loki, Natalie Portman as Jane Foster, Anthony Hopkins as Odin, Rene Russo as Frigga, Ray Stevenson as Volstagg, Tadanobu Asano as Hogun, Jaimie Alexander as Sif, and Idris Elba as Heimdall.



One last minute casting change found American actor Joshua Dallas replacing the Irish thespian Stuart Townsend in the key role of Fandral.



Marvel Studios’ announcement that production on the film had begun included a generalized description of the plot of the film, which had heretofore been kept under wraps: “The epic adventure Thor spans the Marvel Universe from present day Earth to the realm of Asgard. At the center of the story is The Mighty Thor, a powerful but arrogant warrior whose reckless actions reignite an ancient war. Thor is cast down to Earth and forced to live among humans as punishment. Once here, Thor learns what it takes to be a true hero when the most dangerous villain of his world sends the darkest forces of Asgard to invade Earth.”

[Kalyx triaD]

Should be cool. A different kind of superhero movie.

[Kalyx triaD]

Iron Man 2 will be IMAX'd.

[parkmania]

A new director has been hired for Spider-Man 4, which will now be the beginning of a new series of films that focus on a younger Peter Parker (see “Columbia to Reboot Spider-Man”). Marc Webb, who directed the Golden Globe-nominated (500) Days of Summer, has been signed to direct the reboot, according to New York magazine.



Not only will Webb bring a new sensibility to the film, he also will be significantly cheaper than Sam Raimi, who was receiving gross points for his work on the franchise according to the report.

[Vastardikai]

^

This is making me totally think Michael Cera in the role of Parker...

[Inadequacy]

Or Joseph Gordon-Levitt. That wouldn't be so bad.

[Blitz]

I could totally see Joseph Gordon-Levitt as an older Peter Parker. In fact I think that'd be damn good casting. If they're going back to high school though, I wouldn't want it.

[Inadequacy]

I don't know I think he could do it. It's not like this would be the first time a twenty eight year old played a high school student.

[Fignuts]

I don't like the sound of "cheaper".

[Kalyx triaD]

The new director of Spider-Man Reboot is a guy named Marc Webb?

[BigDaddyCool]

Or Joseph Gordon-Levitt. That wouldn't be so bad.

Not bad

[Kalyx triaD]

(Comics) New Armor For Stark:

http://cache-10.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/8/2010/01/500x_mkxviinewlook.jpg

This is the new Iron Man armor for Stark's funny book adventures. It's the first major redesign since the mecha style introduced a few years ago (that influenced the movie armor).

[BigDaddyCool]

Doesn't the ironman armour change all the time anyhow?

[Kalyx triaD]

Doesn't the ironman armour change all the time anyhow?

Well there's usually a 'series armor' that remains for the various artist keep in mind, then there's the off-shoots (Hulk Buster, TF Armor, special classes) you might see in certain arcs.

[Kalyx triaD]

On Thor:

Clark Gregg will turn up in this film, playing Agent Coulson, the SHIELD agent he plays in Iron Man and Iron Man 2. Also, Samuel L. Jackson is definitely in Thor, and Variety seems to think that the Hulk will definitely be in Avengers along with Thor, Captain America and Iron Man.

[Variety]

[Kalyx triaD]

Spidey Reboot Details:

Webb, who has options on two sequels, will now tackle a Jamie Vanderbilt script that sees a “Spider-Man” movie that will look and feel very different from the big movies that went before it.

The plan for the movie is to be in the $80 million range and feature a cast of relative unknowns (so you can quash those Rob Pattinson or Gordon-Levitt rumors at this point). And the story will be pared down to center on a high school kid who is dealing with the knowledge that his uncle died even though the teen had the power to stop it.

The touchstone for the new movie will not be the 1960s comics, which were the inspiration behind the movies by Raimi, who grew on up on them, but rather this past decade’s “Ultimate Spider-Man” comics by Brian Michael Bendis and Mark Bagley where the villain-fighting took a back seat to the high school angst.

That's cool, I still have Ultimate Spidey's first few arcs and I loved the direction. Many of you won't because you're pussies.

[Jeritron]

So liking the original mythology of a superhero fighting supervillians in the city is for pussies? And the showcase of teen angst isn't?

I'm happy to be a pussy

I don't want to see that at all. The time given to his high school days in the first movie was enough. Any more than that is of little interest to me.

In fact, I think this time around it wouldn't even be so bad to skip the radioactive spider bite and origin altogether. We already saw the Spidey origin story done almost exact to the comics and cartoons in 2002.

[Jeritron]

I'd like to see an older Spiderman pitted against Kingpin and a whole lot of villains we haven't seen yet (Hobgoblin, Shocker, Scorpion, Smythe, Tombstone, and a proper Venom and Carnage), and sneaking off on Mary Jane to galavant with Black Cat, and things of that sort.

[Kalyx triaD]

Are you fucking serious biting like that?

[Jeritron]

Yea. You say not wanting Ultimate is for pussies and I say, sign me up on the pussy list. I'm not DEAD serious
But, yes I have no interest in the ultimate spiderman, especially when it comes to the big screen.

[Kalyx triaD]

How many times have you seen that I enjoyed the Raimi take on Spidey, and most other comic adaptions in general? I'm gonna call people pussies for not liking a certain version? This isn't out of character for me? Interesting.

[Jon Kano]

The fuck, all this teen angst shit, that is not what people want to see. We already know the fucking story, seen it in soo many forms and times already, do something new and different, jesus.

[Kalyx triaD]

Yea. You say not wanting Ultimate is for pussies and I say, sign me up on the pussy list. I'm not DEAD serious

But I'm fucking joking, the line doesn't even make sense. Are people who like the Ultimate Spidey "brave"? I mean, really.

[Kalyx triaD]

You guys are pussies for many other reasons, though. Teehee.

[Jeritron]

Also, I loved the Spidey costume in the Raimi movies but they obviously have to go for a new and fresh style.
I think it should be even closer to the classic costume, with a lighter blue and red color, and black webbing. Plus the big ugly spider on the back. Also, the eyes can be reshaped.

Oh yea, I'd like to see Spidey use web shooters in this version too.

Of course these things aren't really major. I want the movies to be good first and foremost, but these little touches would be nice

[Jeritron]

But I'm fucking joking, the line doesn't even make sense. Are people who like the Ultimate Spidey "brave"? I mean, really.

I was going along with your joke. I didn't really think you were offending my manhood, nor would I actually willingly be a pussy.
Also, Ultimate is for pussies

[Jeritron]

Honestly they better "do the Batman" and use some never before used villains from the get go.

Even Batman Begins had the sense to use Scarecrow and Ras Al Guhl, since they were next up on the list of villains that weren't used in the Burton/Schumacher movies.
Obviously it was a whole new world and they could have re-used villains right away, but I think it's pretty lame to come right out of the gates with a reboot and use old faces again.
If they start off with Green Goblin, Doc Ock, or Venom its kind of lame.

[Jon Kano]

Yeah, fuck worrying about costume colours or whatever.

The point is, rebooting the series is bullshit, they should've let Raimi done his thing - ok well that's all over now. The real point is, it's been established. There is only so many times its actually WORTH telling the same story again and I just really think that the people who fell in love with Spiderman way back in 2001/2002, don't need and are still young enough of an audience to accept what has happened.

I just don't see the point in even going over that stuff all over again, even in a different way. They should take this in the other direction - have him older, changed, different - After Spiderman 3, grow on that and bring in a new actor, new villains, new ideas.

Its giving me such a head ache thinking about it.

[Kalyx triaD]

Web shooters, ugh. As a pup I always thought Spidey just shot the shit from his own body. When I learned he actually used web shooters I remember being disappointed. It just undermines the whole 'spider transformation' of it all, "I have spider strength, wall crawling, spider sense... but I have to whip up a batch of synthetic webbing." It was always kinda lame to me and I was happy Raimi went with organic webbing. I hope it remains in the reboot.

I want Gwen Stacy to be the new lead female, as well as her eventual death. More Flash Thompson, too. And this time, give Venom a central villain role - but I wouldn't mind a redo of Raimi's Venom, with the 'broken mirror Peter' thing. That's a stronger Eddie Brock than the homosexual 'he has to be bulky' thing people jack off for.

[Kalyx triaD]

Yeah, fuck worrying about costume colours or whatever.

The point is, rebooting the series is bullshit, they should've let Raimi done his thing - ok well that's all over now. The real point is, it's been established. There is only so many times its actually WORTH telling the same story again and I just really think that the people who fell in love with Spiderman way back in 2001/2002, don't need and are still young enough of an audience to accept what has happened.

I just don't see the point in even going over that stuff all over again, even in a different way. They should take this in the other direction - have him older, changed, different - After Spiderman 3, grow on that and bring in a new actor, new villains, new ideas.

Its giving me such a head ache thinking about it.

I hate that even after Spidey 3, Sony still wanted to run things - knowing how Spidey 3 turned out. Frustrating.

[Jeritron]

I'm not really worrying about it. But it sort of fits into what I would envision as an interesting way of approaching the new series. How?, you may ask. I just think it would be cool if they went for a more colorful, populated world like the comics.

Now I don't mean campy and overcrowded like the Joel Schumacher movies, but sort of the same to Spiderman as Nolan's movies are to Batman. That is, exactly like the comics.
You would have major villains and minor villains, and things would be planned out. Villains could be in multiple movies, and have different sized roles, rather than be chosen one per movie and dominate the film.
I want to see a colorful Spiderman that spouts cheesy banter, and fight comic book villains. That means I want to see a Green Goblin that looks like a Goblin, and wears a purple hood.
None of the military project, or psuedo-X Games versions.

[Kalyx triaD]

Nolan's Batman movies are not like the comics. He takes several liberties, he just happens to be a great director using an awesome script. Sort of like Tim Burton's run.

[Jeritron]

Kano, it is possible to have a reboot that doesn't contradict or retread on anything from the originals.
They can change the style, tone, and look of the movies, but use all new villains and have an older version of Peter Parker. They could just start with Peter Parker already established as Spider-Man, and go from there.

Basically, that would be the same thing Batman Forever did. Only better.

Still, of the two possibilities I like the idea of starting fresh and making it more like the comics.

[Jon Kano]

Thing is, it totally worked for Batman, and although there COULD be some very cool things you could do with a grittier Spidey, I don't think it's the right move.

I personally LOVED Spiderman 1 & 2 and parts of 3 (overall let down though) - When I first saw Spiderman 1, I was sitting in the cinema, and I was actually trying to piece the whole feel of Raimi's version in my head, like, 'Its not camp, it's not a pisstake, it's got serious tones and themes, its funny, its fast paced...' and so on, and I fucking loved it, I loved the feeling I got from all these cool aspects coming together that told the story.

[parkmania]

Something that might just be able to appease both sides of the discussion would be to bring up SpiderMan 2099. You get to tell a completely new origin story, in a futuristic setting, with characters that are familiar, but yet not.

[Jeritron]

Nolan's Batman movies are not like the comics. He takes several liberties, he just happens to be a great director using an awesome script. Sort of like Tim Burton's run.

I shouldn't have said exactly, because they're not. What I meant is, the world of Gotham is the same.
The differences are just that it's more realistic, but for the most part his movies are very very similar to most of the best Batman comics.

I shouldn't address "the comics" as one thing anyways, since they range from stuff like Long Halloween, all the way to shit like Batman and Robin flying rocketships to Mars.

[Jon Kano]

Kano, it is possible to have a reboot that doesn't contradict or retread on anything from the originals.
They can change the style, tone, and look of the movies, but use all new villains and have an older version of Peter Parker. They could just start with Peter Parker already established as Spider-Man, and go from there.

Basically, that would be the same thing Batman Forever did. Only better.

Still, of the two possibilities I like the idea of starting fresh and making it more like the comics.

I get what you are saying, and I think in my previous post that's what I was trying to say, that it could and would be cool.

I just, I dunno, I just don't like the fact that it took so long to get to this point and now it's all going to be thrown away, all in under a decade. I was in love with the first idea that Maguire and Raimi were going to make 6 - that idea, that ambition and drive, it kinda made me fall in love with such possibilities.

I'm not saying it can't be done and in a good way - I'm not an expert on comics etc, but I am an aware cinema viewer and fan. I just don't like the idea of starting again mainly - even if they were to change the actors, director, tones, themes, rating - I would be accepting of that - but to actually start back at the beginning again - I just don't like it.

Its an obvious route for them to reboot with new cast and crew - why don't they do what I just said, keep it going, yet still make the changes. That's the best I can personally hope for anyway. That plan can't really go the way Batman did after Burton at least because I would like to think Hollywood listens to SOME of its audience SOME of the time.

[Kalyx triaD]

I wonder if we'll ever see a live action Robin. :(

[Jeritron]

Thing is, it totally worked for Batman, and although there COULD be some very cool things you could do with a grittier Spidey, I don't think it's the right move.

I personally LOVED Spiderman 1 & 2 and parts of 3 (overall let down though) - When I first saw Spiderman 1, I was sitting in the cinema, and I was actually trying to piece the whole feel of Raimi's version in my head, like, 'Its not camp, it's not a pisstake, it's got serious tones and themes, its funny, its fast paced...' and so on, and I fucking loved it, I loved the feeling I got from all these cool aspects coming together that told the story.

I agree with you. I absolutely loved Spidey 1 and 2. I think Spiderman 2 is probably the second or third best comic book movie ever made. Until Dark Knight came along I considered it the best by far.

The thing is though, Spiderman 3 did such a number on the series that it would have had a real time recovering. I'd have like to see it get another chance to continue, because I know Raimi could do it. There was still plenty of ground to cover, even though they blew a lot of good things.

But I realize now that it's too late for that and it's not going to happen. So I basically just hope this new version is done well and I can enjoy it.
I'm not against a reboot in concept anyways. It would have happened eventually anyways. I just think it's a tad too soon

[Jon Kano]

I agree with you. I absolutely loved Spidey 1 and 2. I think Spiderman 2 is probably the second or third best comic book movie ever made. Until Dark Knight came along I considered it the best by far.

The thing is though, Spiderman 3 did such a number on the series that it would have had a real time recovering. I'd have like to see it get another chance to continue, because I know Raimi could do it. There was still plenty of ground to cover, even though they blew a lot of good things.

But I realize now that it's too late for that and it's not going to happen. So I basically just hope this new version is done well and I can enjoy it.
I'm not against a reboot in concept anyways. It would have happened eventually anyways. I just think it's a tad too soon

Yeah, I think he would've redeemed himself if he got to do 4. At least there was closure on certain things in 3, like Harry. And with Venom, I would've at least liked the symbiote to have survived, no need to bring back Topher Grace. But yeah, all this doesn't really matter now :(

Like I've said, a total reboot, THIS soon, and after how far Raimi came, and how far he or someone else could've taken it - it's a bad move. Will it be a hit at the box office? - probably and I guess that's all they care about.

[Jeritron]

I just, I dunno, I just don't like the fact that it took so long to get to this point and now it's all going to be thrown away.

To be fair the point they were at wasn't so hot. They were in great shape after 2, and after 3 things were such a mess that the series main direction would have been a step back.
The angle with Harry Osborn had been completely ended. They threw away the symbiotes. The romantic angle with MJ had basically run it's course.
The only real existing plot thread was Curt Connors as The Lizard.

I still think Raimi could have brought it back to basics and saved it, but the bad taste of 3 would have always been there and to be honest I don't think it's a crying shame that it's over.
I would have been so pissed if 3 was good, and then this happened, but I honestly am only against the reboot because I think it's stupid to do it this soon. I'm not really upset about not getting to see that story continued. Sort of feels tired and resolute.

[Jeritron]

The real shame is that all of the problems of part 3 could have been solved if it were stretched over 2 movies.
Some simple tweaks from there would have fixed everything. You could have then done justice to the Harry storyline, Venom, and Parker with the blacksuit.
None of it would have been so rushed.

Then you could have had the time to avoid lazy, awful writing like Sandman wandering into a late night experiment, or having a newscast that explains 20 big plot elements in 15 seconds at the end.

[Jon Kano]

Yeah I agree, and I always thought that 3 was like two films in one. Too many villains, too much of the Parker/MJ to fit into one film.

Oh god, yeah that English bint newswoman, that nearly made me want to leave.

[Fignuts]

Doesn't the ironman armour change all the time anyhow?

Not anymore than every couple years.

[Shadow]

Huh.....how interesting they're going with Ultimate Spider-Man rather then mainstream Spider-Man. Could actuallty work as Ultimate Spider-Man was supposed to appeal to the kiddies and get them into comics. So hey....it could work.

[Rammsteinmad]

I like Ultimate Spider-Man. But a reboot of any type is way out of the question right now.

[XL]

I would much rather see them move the story 20 years into the future and see them tackle the issues as Spidey gets older/too old for his superhero antics than to cover the high school years...again.

[Danny Electric]

I agree.

[Lock Jaw]

Spider-Man: 2099 The Movie. MAKE IT HAPPEN!

[parkmania]

A few more details concerning Sony’s reboot of Spider-Man (see “Director Hired for Spider-Man Reboot”) have leaked out. According to The Hollywood Reporter’s Risky Business blog, new Spider-Man director Marc Webb has an option for two additional Spidey movies. Current plans call for film with a budget of about $80 million that will concentrate on Peter Parker’s high school years and feature a young and inexpensive cast.



Reportedly the inspiration for the film, which will be based on a script by Jamie Vanderbilt, is the Ultimate Spider-Man series written by Brian Michael Bendis and illustrated by Marc Bagley. Ultimate Spider-Man debuted in October of 2002. Bendis stretched Stan Lee’s original 11-page Spider-Man origin story into a seven-issue 180-page story arc by fleshing out Peter Parker’s high school adventures, his after school job, his relationship with next door neighbor Mary Jane Watson, and the circumstances surrounding the death of his uncle.

[Lock Jaw]

"I'm out of web fluid! DAMN BUDGET!"

[Rammsteinmad]

There's two possible options here for what I could 'tolerate' (I still think a reboot is a no-no).

1. Actually calling the film 'Ultimate Spider-Man'.
2. If they continued the saga but made small changes in flashbacks etc, similar to Punisher: Warzone.

I really like Ultimate Spider-Man. Even though it's more dialogue than action, it's a really good read. But I just really don't like the idea of rebooting a movie francise this soon.

[Jon Kano]

omg this is going to be a fucking car crash of a film

[Fignuts]

Don't worry. 8 years from now, they'll reboot it and take it in a new direction.

[Kalyx triaD]

Ya know... if every movie was a reboot and people got used to different teams on the same project (like comics now), that would be better. radical, but better in a way.

[Fignuts]

That is the dumbest idea I've ever heard.

[Kalyx triaD]

Until of course it actually goes down, then the talk of the town will be "Who's taking over next time?" and "Wow this version is the best yet!" Shit like that. If Hollywood could give a shit about continuity, then let's adopt a system that gives many creators an opportunity to present these characters.

[Fignuts]

Yes! Lets have even more X-men: Last Stand, and Batman Forevor, instead of sticking with directors that actually do a great job with the material!

And the talk of the town would be "Why the fuck don't they stick to one director."

[Kalyx triaD]

It's just barely like that now. You speak of fantasies. After two movies these series are doomed to some sort of drama. Might as well cut to the chase.

[Kalyx triaD]

And yes I know some of the best movies were sequels to director's initial efforts, I don't care.

[Fignuts]

That's the thing though. the ones that are getting rebooted right away are the ones that suck. The system we have is fine.

They make a movie. if it sucks balls, then they find someone else to make the next one. If it's good, they stick with that team.

Common fucking sense.

That's why people are upset by this, and why they were upset with singer leaving x-men. They were both good franchises, run by people who understood the material.

[Kalyx triaD]

Fuck the system.

[Jeritron]

So is this about comic movies or you being anti-establishment?

Honestly, just because franchises always go to shit doesn't mean they shouldn't strive to make them last. They managed to start making comic films into actual great films, and then they perfected the art of the sequel. I'm sure the sustainable trilogy, or even 4-5 movie series is next.

Believe it or not some studios have learned from their mistakes, and comic franchises have come a long long way.
If they just did a new take everytime not only would it get boring and repetitive, there'd be no excitement to where the franchise can go next and no lasting connection with the characters and universe.
There'd be no Dark Knight, X2 and Spiderman 2. Saying "I don't care" as a rebuttal to that is a horrible cop out. Those are arguably the best 3 superhero movies of alltime. Actually, along with Watchmen and Iron Man, that would be my list

[Kalyx triaD]

I'm always anti-establishment.

[Jeritron]

Also, the new Hulk wasn't a bad movie but look at how it suffered. It was a semi-reboot of Hulk about 4 years after his first movie and the general public didn't give a fuck. They probably thought to themselves, "didn't they already do this? No thanks."
There's gotta be sometime for people to renew their interest in the idea

[Kalyx triaD]

You saying I was for that?

[Jon Kano]

There'd be no Dark Knight, X2 and Spiderman 2. Saying "I don't care" as a rebuttal to that is a horrible cop out. Those are arguably the best 3 superhero movies of alltime.

I agree with you, but to say they (the studios) learn - Spiderman 3 and X3 were, well, not an improvement from their respective predecessor. There is no point taking one step forward if you're then going to take one back.

[Jeritron]

What about every movie being a reboot?

[Kalyx triaD]

Not a reboot, a new perspective.

[Kalyx triaD]

They would be sequels as it were. Reference comic arcs.

[Jeritron]

Oh yea. So like Figs said, X3 and Batman Forever. Even worse imo

[Jon Kano]

I know, I get what you are saying, and like I said I agree with you - I do like and want to see these new titles that have come out over the last decade have some kind of 'saga' feel to them - but still, the mistakes that they made in the third installments are ones like; too many characters used 'just because it's the third film' (X3 and Spiderman 3), which in turn rush or diminish story and character arcs that could easily be spread into another film or even spared entirely for another film.

Its like they end at 3 films anyway, and Spiderman was the ONE FUCKING FRANCHISE that we knew from the get go that they were determined to make it big, 6 films, same cast, same director - I was so fucking grateful I would get to see that shit - and now, the one that would of been comic book film's flagship, shining example, is now not going to happen.

[Jon Kano]

They would be sequels as it were. Reference comic arcs.

Are you trying to suggest this new Spiderman film to be made (high school, no Maguire/Raimi) would be classed as a sequel? because that would be incorrect.

[Kalyx triaD]

No Sinister Six finish.

Maybe the Avengers Initiative will lead the way.

[Kalyx triaD]

Are you trying to suggest this new Spiderman film to be made (high school, no Maguire/Raimi) would be classed as a sequel? because that would be incorrect.

No. Considering the setting and tone that would be a joke.

[Fignuts]

Kano, to be fair, it's sony's fault that spider-man 3 failed to live up to1 and 2. They forced raimi to shoehorn venom into the movie, when he should have been the main villain for 4. Movie would have had much better otherwise.

And that brings me to my next point. Kalyx, you realize that this is all happening because sony wants things done their way, regardless of what the director's vision is, right? Raimi didn't get tired of spider-man. He left because sony wouldn't let him do the vulture, and wanted to control the movie.

That goes against pretty much everything you're arguing for here.

[Lock Jaw]

Spider-Man 3 would have been pretty bad without Venom too. With the whole Sandman actually killed Uncle Ben thing. Unless Sony forced that too.

[Fignuts]

Sandman killing ben was fine, imo. The only problem was the scene at the end between him and peter seemed tacked on and awkward. Like he just walked up to him after the fight, said sorry and walked away.

But that's because by that point, venom was the main villain. That scene would have had a lot more impact, if sandman's character was built up a little more, and if he was the only villain in the final fight.

[Kalyx triaD]

And that brings me to my next point. Kalyx, you realize that this is all happening because sony wants things done their way, regardless of what the director's vision is, right? Raimi didn't get tired of spider-man. He left because sony wouldn't let him do the vulture, and wanted to control the movie.

That goes against pretty much everything you're arguing for here.

I'm not on the studio's side.

[Fignuts]

And just to be clear, I will give this movie a chance. However I'm not going to be super optimistic like kalyx, or be happy that they pushed away a director that captured the feel of the book perfectly.

[Fignuts]

I'm not on the studio's side.

The reboot was the studio's idea, and you seem to think it's a great idea.

[Kalyx triaD]

The reboot was the studio's idea, and you seem to think it's a great idea.

Than you haven't been reading.

[Kalyx triaD]

FUCK

Damn you, Sony.

FUCK

Well... Can Marvel at least take Spidey back and add him to the Movie-verse? If this is going to happen at the very least I'd like an Iron Man or Captain America cameo.

FUCK

[Kalyx triaD]

A loving reaction.

[Fignuts]

You seemed to change your mind pretty quick, considering you just said it would be a good idea to do this for every movie.

Good luck in that fake trial of yours.

[Kalyx triaD]

You seemed to change your mind pretty quick, considering you just said it would be a good idea to do this for every movie.

Good luck in that fake trial of yours.

Ya know... if every movie was a reboot and people got used to different teams on the same project (like comics now), that would be better. radical, but better in a way.

Defense rest. And thanks for the luck.

[Optimus Bone 69]

anyone watched Planet Hulk yet?
as usual a solid outing for the cartoon movie world
was it not silver surfer that Hulk fought in the comic?

[Kalyx triaD]

Is that out already? Didn't see it yet.

[Shadow]

Yeah...they went with Adam Warlock for some reason. Something about the Surfer's rights not being with Marvel.

[Jon Kano]

Kano, to be fair, it's sony's fault that spider-man 3 failed to live up to1 and 2. They forced raimi to shoehorn venom into the movie, when he should have been the main villain for 4. Movie would have had much better otherwise.
.

Still sucked as a film.

[Kalyx triaD]

It's not just a team super hero movie with a bunch of characters with powers, its three people, four including Hulk, five including Nick Fury-who you have seen before in other movies, coming together for the very first time.

So I presume:

Captain America
Iron Man
Thor
Nick Fury
Hulk

Possibly confirmed right there and now. We've also read about Black Widow, War Machine, Wanda Maximoff, and Hank Pym. But not nearly as conclusive as the above list. Note that they say "Hulk" a lot, and not Bruce Banner. It seems doubtful that Ed Norton will be joining this.

[Kalyx triaD]

Thor Themes:

We're doing the Stan Lee/Jack Kirby/Walt Simonson/J Michael Straczynski Thor. We're not doing the blow the dust of the old Norse book in your library Thor and in the Thor of the Marvel universe there's a race called The Asgardians, and we're linked through this tree of life that we're unaware of. Its real science, but we don't know about it yet. The Thor movie is about teaching people that.

[Lock Jaw]

I wonder if Ant-Man/Wasp will be in The Avengers.

[Fignuts]

I read every thor book, from his first appearance, all the way to the newest shit. Probably my favorite character. So it's good to hear they're going for the best runs on it, for the source.

Favorite comic book moment ever might be after civil war, when Iron man tried to make him register, and Thor bitch smacks him so hard his suit shuts down, and practically makes tony pee his pants. So fucking awesome.

[Fignuts]

So I presume:

Captain America
Iron Man
Thor
Nick Fury
Hulk

Possibly confirmed right there and now. We've also read about Black Widow, War Machine, Wanda Maximoff, and Hank Pym. But not nearly as conclusive as the above list. Note that they say "Hulk" a lot, and not Bruce Banner. It seems doubtful that Ed Norton will be joining this.

I'll bet they stick with the first 5, and save the others for the inevitable sequel.