Marvel Universe Thread

[Shadow]

But how's Scarlet Johanson gonna play two characters in the MCU?

[slik]

I think Shang Chi is bc of how badly Iron Fist was received by the General Public, so they want a character of Asian descent the GP isn't disillusioned with. Could possibly be an Iron Fist film w/ the character going by the name Shang Chi instead tbh.

[Sixx]

But how's Scarlet Johanson gonna play two characters in the MCU?

Wait, who other than Black Widow?

[XL]

He’s playing on the controversy over Johanson being cast in Ghost In The Shell.

[XL]

Heard a rumour there will be a new Captain Marvel trailer released tonight, and Avengers 4 trailer will drop Wednesday.

[Sixx]

I know nothing about Ghost in the Shell, but I take it the protagonist is supposed to be Asian?

[slik]

Yep

[Fignuts]

No she's not. Fuck off.

[Destor]

Shes 100% not asian

[slik]

Motoko Kusanagi is too Asian

[slik]

An Asian Robot but Asian

[Fignuts]

No, you fuck, she’s an Asian woman whose consciousness is inside an artificial body. In the manga it is Caucasian, and plays into the identity crisis the character experiences.

For the anime it’s not specifically stated in the show or movie, but you anyone with functioning eyes can see the character is drawn as Caucasian while Asians are drawn with Asian features. Also, the director outright says the body is not Asian.

[Destor]

An Asian Robot but Asian

The robot is not asian. There are asian characters in the show. They are clearly not the same ethnicity

[Destor]

Silk youre very very wrong

[slik]

oh well!

it happens

[Fignuts]

What is infuriating is that so many people are so very very wrong. They’ll go on patting themselves on the back, thinking they “stood up to injustice”. And then they will continue to attack perceived social and cultural crimes without doing any research at all into anything.

[Sixx]

So if the robot was caucasian in the anime, why was there outrage because of casting Scarlett?

[Sixx]

I mean, she is pretty boring and always looks like she's about to fall asleep, but oter than that they chose ok.

[Fignuts]

So if the robot was caucasian in the anime, why was there outrage because of casting Scarlett?

Because none of those people know anything about the manga or show and just assumed it was white washing as soon as they saw a white chick was cast in an anime adaptation.

The whole debacle was a perfect example of what’s wrong with society. People taking up a cause just for the sake of it. Because it’s the popular thing to do. Not because they actually care. If they really cared they would actually investigate into the subject. But they don’t. They just want more likes on twitter.

[Sixx]

I really don't like race-swapping in movies, but sometimes it works.

Still think casting Idris Elba as Heimdall was a dumb idea, but he's a good actor and delivered.

[RP]

Has it been talked about that Jake Gylenhall is going to be Mysterio? Gylenhall is fucking fantastic!

[Kalyx triaD]

Yeah he was spotted on set months ago in a blurry pic wearing the Mysterio get-up (not with the fish bowl).

[Fignuts]

I’m really looking forward to it. Given the nature of Mysterio’s abilities there’s a lot you can do with that visually and creatively. Limited only by imagination really.

[Sixx]

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no idea what this is

[Kalyx triaD]

Set pics.

[Sixx]

It's very weirdly recorded.

[Fignuts]

So I guess cyclops is back, but it’s Jim lee era cyclops?

Because boy howdy, that sure is an interesting character. I can’t wait!

[RP]

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[Kalyx triaD]

Well let's see if they can integrate in Phase 4. Should be interesting seeing how they integrate mutants this late in the game.

Also DOOM.

[Tom Guycott]

While Doom is possibly cool, I was always dreading this.

Part of the reason why the MCU got better was because X-Men was initially killing it. The rights separations meant allowances and substitutions had to be made and better storytelling had to shore up some of those holes and alterations. Yeah, there is all kind of love for Black Panther - time and place in history and whatnot - but do you *really* think there would have been a feature film if they didn't have to dig that far down the well of not being able to use mutants or the Fantastic Four? It took a few iterations of Hulk movies to get the one we have now, and if the pissing match weren't happining and everyting were in one house, BP would likely would have been replaced by either a new attempt at Hulk or another Iron Man move that the studio could hump until the comic movie bubble burst.

I fear a "Mortal Kombat: Anhilliation" future. Shoving in everyone just for the sake of "look, we have them all now!!!" and the need for well crafted stories diminishing because everyone is back in one place and it's no longer a theatrical arms race of sorts. Shit's going to get worse in the effort department simply for the pants creaming that will come from the first time everyone is able to see Wolverine, Deadpool, and Spider-Man show up in a MCU movie.

Yoda's couple minute ass kicking spree didn't make up for the three lackluster prequels to me, and the potential of having a moment or two doesn't make me feel better about the future of the franchises going forward. Once the ink is dry, feels like the only thing left to do is Secret Wars. It's another form of WWE buying WCW.

It can't last forever, but this speeds up the inevitable.

[Fignuts]

I don't see that at all. If anything, the pressure is going to be on Marvel Studios to deliver due to both their own success, and the troubled past of these fox franchises. People are going to be expecting the best X-men and Fantastic Four movies ever, and Marvel Studios knows it.

[Rammsteinmad]

Kinda saddens me that there's always talk/rumors etc of guys like Chris Evans and Robert Downey being done etc. I don't want any of these characters to miss out on interactions with MCU X-Men or Fantastic Four.

[Sixx]

Kinda saddens me that there's always talk/rumors etc of guys like Chris Evans and Robert Downey being done etc. I don't want any of these characters to miss out on interactions with MCU X-Men or Fantastic Four.

Neither do I, but they ain't getting younger. And we don't want them to give them the CGI treatment FOX gave Patrick Stewart, now do we?

https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/cD7onriN4cnaEvbSXHN29c.jpg

[Shadow]

Yeah that wasn't....bad but RDJ and Evans do a lot of their own stunts and it's wearing on 'em.

Besides, I kinda trust Marvel's casting department to know what they're doing.

[Kalyx triaD]

Cap, Stark, and Thor will almost certainly carry on as mentirs or some such. If any of em don't die, but it's just more likely their sub-series are done at three movies and they'll only suit up for supporting roles or big crossover movies.

On what Tom said, I'm with Fig that Marvel Studios knows better than to coast on sheer volume of characters. I mean we're totally getting Secret Wars now, but other than that they'll still experiment with lesser knowns. Especially since the two big acquisitions are teams, so we're looking at two new sub-series max. That's IF they don't mix and match or send characters to Disney+.

[Kalyx triaD]

The de-aging tech got way better since X3 but that's moot since Evans and RDJ look perfectly fine. MCU also progresses in real time so if they look older, okay.

[Seanny One Ball]

While Doom is possibly cool, I was always dreading this.

Part of the reason why the MCU got better was because X-Men was initially killing it. The rights separations meant allowances and substitutions had to be made and better storytelling had to shore up some of those holes and alterations. Yeah, there is all kind of love for Black Panther - time and place in history and whatnot - but do you *really* think there would have been a feature film if they didn't have to dig that far down the well of not being able to use mutants or the Fantastic Four? It took a few iterations of Hulk movies to get the one we have now, and if the pissing match weren't happining and everyting were in one house, BP would likely would have been replaced by either a new attempt at Hulk or another Iron Man move that the studio could hump until the comic movie bubble burst.

I fear a "Mortal Kombat: Anhilliation" future. Shoving in everyone just for the sake of "look, we have them all now!!!" and the need for well crafted stories diminishing because everyone is back in one place and it's no longer a theatrical arms race of sorts. Shit's going to get worse in the effort department simply for the pants creaming that will come from the first time everyone is able to see Wolverine, Deadpool, and Spider-Man show up in a MCU movie.

Yoda's couple minute ass kicking spree didn't make up for the three lackluster prequels to me, and the potential of having a moment or two doesn't make me feel better about the future of the franchises going forward. Once the ink is dry, feels like the only thing left to do is Secret Wars. It's another form of WWE buying WCW.

It can't last forever, but this speeds up the inevitable.


I can't understand this fear after 20 films of very consistent calibre and the way the whole universe has been interlinked and expanded so beautifully.

At this stage Marvel Studio is at the top of their game, all I can do is trust them.

[Kalyx triaD]

They could announce Taskmaster on Disney+ and I just know it'd be awesome. Their only real failure was Inhumans.

[Shadow]

And even Inhumans wasn't as bad as even the worst critics say. It was just bland.

[Lock Jaw]

Add a "Lady Sif" show to the Disney+ multitude of MCU shows.....

[dronepool]

Can't wait for Cap Marvel

http://i67.tinypic.com/2r5zxc7.jpg

[slik]

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[JimmyMess]

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That would be the greatest thing ever

[Kalyx triaD]

Maybe possibly who-knows but Taskmaster may be Black Widow's main villain.

[Fignuts]

Taskmaster is cool. I'd be down for that.

[Kalyx triaD]

I was hoping he'd get a run on Agents of SHIELD.

[Kalyx triaD]

Rejoice and sing; set photos reveal the Black Widow movie will include Taskmaster as a villain.

[Seanny One Ball]

I just don't see why I would be expected to care about Black Widow of all people.

[Kalyx triaD]

It's your preference, of course, but I happen to like that the first female Avenger finally gets her due. Just a shame it really can't go past a single movie.

[Seanny One Ball]

You sound like a sexist impression of a feminist.

[Kalyx triaD]

Then I suppose you never met one of those.

[Seanny One Ball]

I've met everybody

[slik]

new cosmic level villain for MCU?


https://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/captain-marvel-sequel-rumored-feature-familiar-villains/

[Fignuts]

eh, never really cared about Korvac

Rogue would have been a much cooler choice,imo.

[Lock Jaw]

Thor 4 with director Taiki Waititi, or however you spell his name, is official

[Fignuts]

Figured they’d skip Thor 4 in lieu of having him around for Guardians 3.

Much as I’d like to see Gorr, the tone of that story is completely different from Taiki’s style.

[Kalyx triaD]

Phase 4 is 10 movies long.

[Destor]

3 years seems about right for a transitional phase

[Destor]

Means we could have x men and ff around 2023-2024

[Seanny One Ball]

Blade with Mahershala Ali could be cool, I do love the GDT originals though.

[Kalyx triaD]

Correction: 5 movies, 5 shows.

[Kalyx triaD]

Phase 4 will be relatively brisk, all these projects in a two year span. No big team up.

Confirmed projects without dates (so they could be Phase 5 or still 4):

- Captain Marvel 2
- Black Panther 2
Guardians 3
- Fantastic Four project
- Mutants project

[Kalyx triaD]

Black Widow will be close to Jason Bourne in terms of grounded action. Taskmaster is the villain. Probably a girl. Obviously a prequel, and we'll get to see what the hell happened in Budapest.

Falcon and Bucky will face off against Zemo in the series. Curiously Sam isn't being marketed as Captain America, so I'm guessing the shield passing on isn't so settled between these two guys.

The Eternals will be pre-historic and show off Thanos' race among others. The 'big gamble' of Phase 4 since these people aren't even traditional superheroes. DC should watch closely as this is basically New Gods with hotter people.

Shang-Chi will face the real Mandarin in the MCU's dive in martial arts. Trevor may in fact return. I'm mixed emotions here because ideally this should have been an Iron Fist movie.

WandaVision concerns Wanda's resurrection of Vision in a trippy 50s aesthetic series. Perhaps this is all in her head, because it wouldn't be the first time in her character's history.

Loki series is not completely a past events anthology, since Hiddleson is playing the Loki that escaped in Endgame.

Dr Strange: Multiverse of Madness will feature Wanda and will be MCU's go at horror. Madness is often a facet of cosmic horror or Lovecraftian horror. Also this will be interesting seeing Wanda finally deal with magic in the MCU.

What If will be narrated by The Watcher (likely Oatu) and feature several animated alternate scenarios, the only one confirmed being Peggy Carter as a super soldier. All MCU will voice their roles. This is significant to be featured on the main MCU timeline.

Hawkeye series features Kate Bishop, the girl Hawkeye. Renner is there of course.

The main even (so far) is Thor: Love and Thunder. Jane Foster returns and will have a go at her FemThor persona somehow, what with a destroyed Mjolnir and all. Valkyrie will be looking for a queen to lead New Asgard with.

[Seanny One Ball]

The unreleased 1994 Fantastic Four has a better rating than the 2015 reboot. It's roughly on par with Rise Of The Silver Surfer :lol:
There's a great documentary about it.

[ClockShot]

So Andy Serkis is directing Venom 2.

Okay. He's got a tall order, but I think he can fix it.

[Fignuts]

Eh, movie was a fun watch overall. Just had some problems. Shouldn’t be too hard to get right the second time.

[Destor]

Movie was bad. Sonyverse looking to be on par with the DCU.

[Seanny One Ball]

Venom was great fun, got boring towards the end because the movie splits from comedy into action but if they even that up it could be excellent.

[ClockShot]

Gemma Chan being eyed for a role in The Eternals movie.

Which, of course, got a lot of people talking/panicking right now because she's already established as Minn-Erva in Captain Marvel.

[Sixx]

Gemma Chan being eyed for a role in The Eternals movie.

Which, of course, got a lot of people talking/panicking right now because she's already established as Minn-Erva in Captain Marvel.

Oh, come on! You know Asians all look alike!

[Destor]

one is a blue alien and the other isnt. its fine.

[Lock Jaw]

I can get people "talking"/"complaining", but why "panicking"?

[Sixx]

one is a blue alien and the other isnt. its fine.


I DON'T SEE COLOR, I SEE PEOPLE

[Kalyx triaD]

Panic?

[Destor]

I for one am terrified

[Lock Jaw]

All I know is I read some Eternals comic once and found it dreadfully boring

[Destor]

thats how i felt about guardians and the movie turned out great. *shrug*

[Lock Jaw]

I enjoyed the Guardians comic.

I found some Inhuman stuff I read pretty boring, though....

[Fignuts]

Eternals introduced the Celestials, so that will be cool to see.

I also found old schoolEternals a hard read, despite being really into marvel's cosmic stuff.

But like Destor said, Marvel Studios can make a hit out of anything at this point. I'm waiting for Forbush Man in Phase 5.

[Seanny One Ball]

After 20+ movies they are due a big drop off.

Black Widow is where I want to see them eat humble pie.

[Sixx]

After 20+ movies they are due a big drop off.

Black Widow is where I want to see them eat humble pie.

Make it porn and it's another homerun.

[Fignuts]

After 20+ movies they are due a big drop off.

Black Widow is where I want to see them eat humble pie.

Why do you even want them to fail?

[Fignuts]

Make it porn and it's another homerun.

I mean, there's plenty of that already.

[Sixx]

I mean, there's plenty of that already.

Not with Marvel budget and Scarlett Johansson.

[Destor]

If they make it a spy thriller black widow could be good. Budget needs to be lower though. Film could tank.

[Seanny One Ball]

Why do you even want them to fail?


I don't want them to fail. I want them to eat a wee bit of humble pie. Black Widow doesn't need a film, especially now.
I think now is a likely time for a drop in interest after so many hits and a well concluded story. The films are going to make money anyway, I just think a couple of the storylines are bound to start off as unsatisfactory and end up improving after the creative get together and fix the flaws or do whatever they did after Incredible Hulk, Thor 2, Age Of Ultron and presumably what they will do with the unappealing Captain Marvel to make people actually like her and not just the franchise she is in.

The 20+ film streak can only last as long as people feel committed to seeing it through.
After Endgame they need to give people a damned good reason to spend that much money again and I don't see it happening without a misstep here or there.

Fixing errors of judgement improves the end result.

Anyone remember when Scarlett Witch was Russian? They knocked that on the head damned sharp.

[Seanny One Ball]

I mean her accent changed, not her race. Dumb way to write it :lol:

[Sixx]

If they make it a spy thriller black widow could be good. Budget needs to be lower though. Film could tank.

Spy thriller porn?

Now that's a hit right there.

[Kalyx triaD]

I kinda sorta agree that the MCU will very likely have blow to it's quality in Phase 4. I dunno if it'll be Black Widow, I think Eternals may not pan out. The big Phase 1 risk was Thor and the risk in Phase 2 was Guardians. But these properties were always cool - just a bit out there among the other MCU films of their respective phase.

Eternals is just not 'cool'. Great for Marvelphiles in terms of mythology but let's be real; It's a so-so New Gods. It's not 'catchy'. To be fair MCU has turned nobodies into box office hits before... but the last time I felt exactly like this was Inhumans. Didn't believe in the movie, didn't believe in the show.

It's the MCU's first real flop. Movie canceled, show bombed.

[Fignuts]

I mean her accent changed, not her race. Dumb way to write it :lol:

I think they changed it because she was just bad at it.

[Destor]

TV is meaningless.


Antman. Theres something thats flopped. Its not likelly we get a solo antman film again. Possible but unlikely. Team ups are probably his future.


Phase 4 will be pretty cold though. They have to rebuild from here.

[Seanny One Ball]

I think they changed it because she was just bad at it.

Yeah, they change the bits that don't work. That is my point.

[Blonde Moment]

Looks like Hickman is going to try to fix the X men, the First couple of issues of the new series are interesting to say the least

[Kalyx triaD]

As an odd experiment of sorts, Thor Love & Thunder is not just happening to be the last movie of Phase 4, it will be a finale of the phase the way Avengers movies tend to be in a story telling sense.

[Kalyx triaD]

Also I think Fignuts would like the villain being rumored.

[Fignuts]

Much as I’d like to see Gorr, the tone of that story is completely different from Taiki’s style.

https://i.imgur.com/dSkLH9e.png

[Kalyx triaD]

In other news, Sony is dumb.

[ClockShot]

Spider-Man has been cut out of the MCU due to Sony and Disney not being able to come to an agreement on how to work together. There might be a chance things work out, but they're at an impasse right now.

https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/08/20/breaking-spider-man-out-of-the-mcu-marvel-sony-cant-reach-deal

In other news, Sony is dumb.

Well, maybe the Movie division.

[Destor]

Current deal still includes 2 more crossover appearances if Disney so chooses. But i dont think the deal is done just yet. Disneys ask was insane. They wanted a 50/50 and profits and production fees and they wanted to have that same deal and assume control of all spidey adjacent properties. Thatsa huge play.



Disney already gets 100% of the merch. Sony ONLY has the back end. 50/50 on their only major franchise? Cmon. Disney knows theyre the reason the brand is hot and theyre wanting sony to acknowledge that, i get it, but theyre being greedy. 5% is too small though for what theyre doing. Fair enough.



Disney is driver, sure, but Sony has the title. Make a real offer. Sony will absolutely tank the brand out of spite before they take that deal.



That said a strong spidey brand lets disney sell more merch and they can make tv shows and what have you. Theres a lot of incentive to want the brand strong.

[Kalyx triaD]

Being that Disney produced two successful Spidey movies and on principle Spider-Man is Marvel's to begin with Sony should have went with whatever they wanted.

[Destor]

"Thanks for making us money. Here's all the money you made us"


Brilliant plan.

[Destor]

More reasonable offer would be let sony make movie tie in merch. Full toy line. Whole nine. Strict time window for manufacturing/retail. Sony takes full or at least 80% depending on cross over characters in the film. Then disney can have 30ish% of the back end but disney ponies on 50% of the production.


Disney pays 80 mil sony pays 80 mil. Disney takes around 300 mil off the next film. Sony loses 25% off their last haul but if they can move the merch they stand to make double. Everyone makes more than they were making going in.



Come back in 5-7 and take the temperature from there.


50/50 no merch? Yeah right. Thatll never happen and anyone dumb enough to pen that deal would be fired in a week. Only Disney wins in that offer. Its a ridiculous ask especially when you dont actually hold the cards.

[Destor]

And keep in mind the 50/50 was reported as production. Meaning sony would shoulder the marketing cost. Shit deal.

[McLegend]

I think this deal gets done. No one wants to walk away from a billion dollars.

[Destor]

Disney is walking away from 50 million. Thats what they took from the past 2 films. Its the adjacent branded properties they sell that they can make money off of. Shows, merch, games, etc


Still 50 mil will finance half a production of another title so its better than nothing i suppose

[Destor]

And the next 1-2 spidey films will draw with or without disney at this point.

[Kalyx triaD]

If Sony could nail a Spidey film they'd never need to lend Parker to the MCU in the first place.

[Shadow]

Pretty much. But the deal is not done. Fan backlash on social media has driven Sony back to the table.

Well that and a massive dip their stock took.

[RaginRonic]

I'd not be shocked if Disney just ended up with the whole Spider-Man franchise under their control in the end. Sony doesn't have any more good ideas for it anymore, and it's time for Spidey to move on to much greener pastures.

=P

[slik]

Sony will probably make a superhero team out of Spidey, Venom and like Black Cat or something

[Rammsteinmad]

And I can honestly imagine people being sour on that simply because it's not in the MCU.

[Kalyx triaD]

Moon Knight, She-Hulk, and Ms Marvel announced for Disney+. All confirmed MCU.

[ClockShot]

Kit Harrington cast in the Eternals movie as Dane Whitman.

To be determined if this Dane Whitman is in fact the Black Knight.

[Sixx]

Kit Harrington cast in the Eternals movie as Dane Whitman.

To be determined if this Dane Whitman is in fact the Black Knight.

According to Marvel's page, it is.

[Destor]

More reasonable offer would be let sony make movie tie in merch. Full toy line. Whole nine. Strict time window for manufacturing/retail. Sony takes full or at least 80% depending on cross over characters in the film. Then disney can have 30ish% of the back end but disney ponies on 50% of the production.


Disney pays 80 mil sony pays 80 mil. Disney takes around 300 mil off the next film. Sony loses 25% off their last haul but if they can move the merch they stand to make double. Everyone makes more than they were making going in.



Come back in 5-7 and take the temperature from there.


50/50 no merch? Yeah right. Thatll never happen and anyone dumb enough to pen that deal would be fired in a week. Only Disney wins in that offer. Its a ridiculous ask especially when you dont actually hold the cards.
Rumors indicate that disney will get 25% of the cut and the production costs are split 50/50. Disney will get no control of additional IPs. Other than disney not giving sony any merchandizing i was pretty spot on. Disney over bid, and then caved.

[Destor]

It also appears that spidey will be appearing in the sony spidey-verse more as time goes on as well. Currently spidey 3 and one unannounced mcu appearance is all thats agreed on though

[Lock Jaw]

I read some "newz" awhile back that said Disney had "lost faith" in Captain Marvel and wanted to put Spider-Man in her next movie in an effort to try to get Captain Marvel to be more "likeable" via interactions with Spidey.....

[Destor]

She needs something to have "cross the isle appeal"

[Kalyx triaD]

A fucking personality.

[Seanny One Ball]

Just have her learn that she has a lovely face, much better for smiles than frowns.

[slik]

Kevin Feige is the new Chief Creative Officer of Marvel Comics, replacing Joe Quesada


https://www.bleedingcool.com/2019/10/15/marvel-shocker-kevin-feige-takes-over-comics-as-new-chief-creative-officer/

[Kalyx triaD]

Hmm...

[ClockShot]

Cloak & Dagger over on Freeform cancelled after 2 seasons.

[Destor]

S1 was solid. Didnt watch s2

[Lock Jaw]

Didn't watch any

Didn't see S2 of Runaways either because my DVR didn't record it...

[Destor]

I dropped hulu so i missed both...

[JimmyMess]

https://ca.ign.com/articles/2019/10/27/martin-scorsese-now-says-marvel-movies-are-a-new-art-form-mcu-disney-the-irishman-james-gunn-samuel-l-jackson-natalie-portman

Scorcese doubling back and trying to save face by the looks of it.

[Kalyx triaD]

There's nothing to 'save', he's allowed to have an opinion. Especially him.

[JimmyMess]

I didn't say he wasn't allowed to have an opinion.

[Seanny One Ball]

Apparently he's allowed to have two completely contradictory opinions about the same thing. One to be a prick, one to say sorry after when people get mad.
Nobody should ever be allowed to get away with that, even if they directed a few good films.

[Destor]

Who gives a shit what he likes dislikes or says. Its totally meaningless.

[Lock Jaw]

No. People aren't allowed to dislike things that I like

[Seanny One Ball]

Who gives a shit what he likes dislikes or says. Its totally meaningless.

It's good to talk.

[Seanny One Ball]

No. People aren't allowed to dislike things that I like


Word

[Seanny One Ball]

White people saying "Word" was big in the 90's, I think we can all agree on that.

[Fignuts]

https://i.imgur.com/6wPUJqe.png

[Sixx]

White people saying "Word" was big in the 90's, I think we can all agree on that.

There was this one guy in my neighbourhood that would do that. But it's not a thing in Poland so everyone was like WTF?

Him saying "słowo" all the time.

[Fignuts]

https://i.imgur.com/4rvOznF.png

[ClockShot]

Disney announced they're bringing WandaVision to Disney+ this year instead of 2021.

No exact date pinned down yet.

[Kalyx triaD]

Nice

[ClockShot]

Scott Derrickson drops out as director of Doctor Strange 2 due to "creative differences". But, he's still hanging around as an executive producer.

Well, that's not good. Did a hell of a job with the first movie.

[Destor]

Everyone was worried about antman and its creative differences with directors and its a gem

[Lock Jaw]

Dr. Strange one of the Marvel films I have only ever seen once.... I enjoyed it and it wasn't bad or anything.... just never really felt the urge to watch it again

[Kalyx triaD]

Everyone was worried about antman and its creative differences with directors and its a gem

That's a bit different. Scott's already played ball with the MCU standard whereas Wright didn't see a meta-franchise coming that would force changes. If Scott dropped out, that's pretty unique for the MCU.

if I had to guess, I'd say it has something to do with Feige's recent comments that it's not going to be as horror as initially promised (which I knew was a long shot anyway).

[Destor]

Its the same in the sense tha new directors have come in and its not impacted the final product in a negative way.. at all. Marvel needs to strike out before we treat them like a fimbling dufus.

[Fignuts]

https://i.imgur.com/DqZo5fF.jpg

[Kalyx triaD]

One of the greatest panel/memes I ever seen.

[Seanny One Ball]

Yeah that is pretty special.
Giggled like an idiot reading that.

[Seanny One Ball]

Dr. Strange one of the Marvel films I have only ever seen once.... I enjoyed it and it wasn't bad or anything.... just never really felt the urge to watch it again


I felt the same way initially but after two additional viewings I have to admit it is a lot better than I first thought.

So far the only one I can't bring myself to watch again is Captain Marvel.

[Lock Jaw]

I think in addition to Dr. Strange, I haven't watched Black Panther, Ant Man & The Wasp, Captain Marvel, and Thor: Ragnarok again.

I actually really liked Ragnarok and think it was one of the better ones and keep meaning to watch it again..... the rest are enjoyable, just haven't watched them again and don't feel an urge to....

[Destor]

Ive never rewatched any marvel film

[Lock Jaw]

Most of them just aren't that memorable and don't really have the need to..... I'll still go out to see the new "episodes", but don't feel the need anymore to rewatch previous episodes.....

[Kalyx triaD]

I'm lowkey terrified of an MCU without Iron Man and Captain America. Spider-Man could hold the universe on his back provided they expand his corner of the universe past being Iron Boy (which they can't do forever), but even he can't do it alone. Captain Marvel is absolutely not going to inherent the pillar Stark or Cap had with zero charisma, and she's not even necessary for expanding the cosmic sandbox with the Guardians out and about. Shang Chi will probably be bitter sweet in a "should have been an Iron Fist movie" kind of way, and Eternals can go either way since Marvel Studios does have a star maker record with little known characters.

The big test is an Avengers movie without Cap or Stark. Their dual leadership was critical and I fear they're gonna emulate that dynamic with Cpt Marvel and Panther - except not in a million years will they allow their biggest female and black characters have 'beef'.

I dunno. It's just bothered me. I used to be HYPE thinking of the next phase but I'm full of doubt here.

[Destor]

I think thats most of us. Its unproven waters and the general wokeness of the top brands they have left is off putting to many. Spider-Man will in the future revert back to Sony full time (a reality that many havent considered for whatever reason [2023 or so is roughly when this extension will be up]) at which point they are going to need some traction with other characters.


That will need to be the X-men

[Lock Jaw]

Sequel to Venom (which I still haven't watched) is now very subtlety called "Venom: Let There Be Carnage"

[Kalyx triaD]

I have half a mind to skip this movie on the count they didn't use the obvious title, "Maximum Carnage".

[ClockShot]

Marvel grabs the licences for Alien & Predator.

So, a new line of comics is incoming.

[Destor]

That makes xenomorph a disney princess

[Shadow]

Xenomorph's been a Disney Princess since the Fox acquisition.

[Fignuts]

Same person who leaked a bunch of other correct predictions, including the she hulk show, and taskmaster, has said that Disney and marvel have come to a decision on the future of black panther.

They’re going to continue with Black Panther 2, and Shurri will take over the mantle.

[Lock Jaw]

Yeah, that seemed like the most logical path to me....

[Destor]

as far as box office goes recasting is the most logical path but she has a fanbase. hopefully they can grow it

[Kalyx triaD]

Guess Ryan's off the job.

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jonathan Majors has been cast as Kang the Conqueror in ‘ANT-MAN 3’.<br><br>(Source: Deadline) <a href="https://t.co/ADhV7M7RI8">pic.twitter.com/ADhV7M7RI8</a></p>&mdash; DiscussingFilm (@DiscussingFilm) <a href="https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1305541406300278785?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 14, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Fignuts]

In Ant-man?

The fuck are they using Kang in Ant-man for?

[Destor]

*crosses fingers for fantastic four reboot in the middle of antman 3*

[Destor]

also if kang is black is reed richards going to be black too?

[Lock Jaw]

What does one have to do with the other

[Destor]

kang is a descendent of reed richards

[Sixx]

Hard to find a blue actor.

[Fignuts]

kang is a descendent of reed richards

I mean yeah, by a couple of thousand years. Totally plausible that the Reed women could have gotten a taste of dark chocolate in that time.

[Fignuts]

First arc of the new Thor comic wrapped up. Cates has massive shoes to fill as Aaron’s run is one of the greatest Thor runs of all time, and my personal favorite.

A couple things irked me, but overall really enjoyable. I hope Thor having to make more hard choices as king and realizing why his father was the way he was, is something they explore even more in the future.

Nic Klein’s art is astonishing. To the point where I feel like he was born to draw this book.

[Destor]

I mean yeah, by a couple of thousand years. Totally plausible that the Reed women could have gotten a taste of dark chocolate in that time.
thats a fair point. though i think its a firm thousand years and not a couple

[JimmyMess]

The Wanavision trailer is the first time I've watched a comic book movie trailer and had absolutely NO idea what was going on. But I'm super excited.

[Fignuts]

Wanda’s powers revolve around altering reality. The working theory is that her grief over Vision pushes her powers to new levels and she’s creating this new reality without even realizing it.

[Destor]

I hope the arc for her is she does a reverse house of m and creates mutants

[Destor]

over the course of this phase, not the 1st season of the show

[Kalyx triaD]

I'd be fine if the MCU goes TV from now on. Longer stories and more variation.

[Lock Jaw]

I hope the arc for her is she does a reverse house of m and creates mutants

That's a good idea. They should steal it.

[Fignuts]

It’s an interesting idea.

I kinda want them to really shake things up though and have Scott and Emma as headmasters with Xavier having died already. I’m not sure if that would fit in well with destor’s pitch.

My idea was that mutants have been around all this time but Fury and SHIELD have kept it it quiet to avoid fear and panic, and helped get new mutants to the school. In return, the X-men do some occasional black ops missions for shield.

[Lock Jaw]

I wonder if SHIELD ever appears again....

[Fignuts]

I think the project Fury is working on in space, is going to be SWORD.

They could bring back SHIELD or leave it dead. The people within shield, like Coulson and Fury were always more important to the story than the organization itself.

[Kalyx triaD]

MCU Phase 4 basically pushed back a year.

[Kalyx triaD]

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e9/53/e8/e953e8191a28cbd2efaf0e28e9929584.gif

She aight. 7/10

[Fignuts]

I didn't even know about this until today. A Daimon Hellstrom show, completely unconnected to the MCU. You probably don't even know who that is.

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So random

[Destor]

Satana isnt nearly hot enough

[Fignuts]

Jamie Foxx is apparently reprising his role as Elektro for the next MCU spider-man movie.

So that's a thing.

[Destor]

the writing was the issue not foxx

[Fignuts]

Oh no, I'm not saying it's a bad thing.

There are a lot of implications with it though.

On one hand it could just be Foxx wanting to reprise a role he enjoyed doing and nothing more. But given we do know Marvel is exploring the ideas of a multiverse, it could end up being something crazy. Like, maybe Andrew Garfield and Tobey Maguire showing up too?

[Destor]

theres dwf going to be some multiverse shenanigans coming in spidey films since they will be disconnecting it from the mcu in the next 3-4 years

[Kalyx triaD]

Fucking mess, tbh.

[McLegend]

While we are talking about Multiverse Spider—man.

I’m late to the party on this, but into the Spider-Verse was beautiful. Top 1-3 comic book movie of the decade.

[Kalyx triaD]

Yes it was very good.

[Lock Jaw]

Reports coming in that Andrew Garfield and Tobey Maguire have signed on to appear in Spider-Man 3

[Fignuts]

Yeah okay this is getting awesome.

[Lock Jaw]

Rumours that they are looking to cast Miles Morales as well

[Kalyx triaD]

Between Sony's vanity project, MCU's sudden interest in multiverses, and Raimi's rumored stealth Spidey 4 ploy this mess could transcend being an MCU movie.

[Fignuts]

As long as the MCU movie is good, they can make as much of a mess outside of it as they want. I really don’t give a fuck.

[Blonde Moment]

If one thing sticks from the X of Swords I hope it's what they have done with Apocalypse.

[slik]

Great casting

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Oscar Isaac has been cast as Moon Knight in the Disney+ ‘MOON KNIGHT’ series.<br><br>(Source: Deadline) <a href="https://t.co/SB6B7x0YL2">pic.twitter.com/SB6B7x0YL2</a></p>&mdash; DiscussingFilm (@DiscussingFilm) <a href="https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1320772684708564992?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 26, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[ClockShot]

Yeah. How serious/crazy is Disney going with this is what I want to know.

[slik]

True

I cancelled my D+ a while ago bc I'm not really a Star Wars fan but I'm tempted to bring it back for Wandavision and I'm very interested in Moon Knight. I remember reading somewhere it might have Werewolf By Night in it too, which I am very curious about.

[ClockShot]

Apparently over the weekend the Daredevil TV rights went back to Marvel Studios from Netflix.

[Kalyx triaD]

Yeah people are rallying to get Charlie back in there.

[Shadow]

I can only pray they can still get him back.

[Kalyx triaD]

Oh he'd do it. It's on Kevin.

[slik]

Speaking of Daredevil...


In the comics starting in Daredevil #25 Electra will become the new Daredevil for a while

[Fignuts]

Marvel is moments from imploding just like DC did

[slik]

DC has their big non-reboot coming up after FUTURE STATE

They basically aren't going to worry about continuity anymore, 'everything happened', and if there's a continuity issue readers are supposed to assume it takes place on a different earth in the multiverse...which is honestly probably the best idea for DC instead of them obsessing over making everything match and then haphazardly ignoring it when new creative teams take over.

[rez]

Nerdz

[M-A-G]

DC has their big non-reboot coming up after FUTURE STATE

They basically aren't going to worry about continuity anymore, 'everything happened', and if there's a continuity issue readers are supposed to assume it takes place on a different earth in the multiverse...which is honestly probably the best idea for DC instead of them obsessing over making everything match and then haphazardly ignoring it when new creative teams take over.

Well that's just lazy.

[Kalyx triaD]

Wait so Future State isn't some alt-future universe?

Eh, I don't care anymore.

[slik]

Future State is what is replacing all the titles for two months in January and February and will show a alternate/possible future for DC...DC has said some elements will stick though, for example Yara Flor as a new Amazon.

Bruce not having access to the Wayne billions they've already done in the current Bat-title and that will be the same post-Future State. I like that they've said he's moving out of Wayne Manor and into a brownstone in the middle of Gotham City itself. That should mix things up, along with not having as much access to Iron Man levels of tech.

[Kalyx triaD]

I think I'm the only person in the universe who see no problem with a classical status quo and painting within those lines. That makes shake ups impactful (Civil War, Court of Owls, etc). Stunts like this just doesn't amount to everything after coming off 2 events that 'shook things up'. My opinion on Future State went up when it appeared to be some extended elseworlds thing but now some things will stick - before it's even out.

Other elements from alt timelines and such do stick time to time, but after the fact when they prove popular or add to the Status Quo. But DC just guessing that something will work is exactly the type of presumptive marketing that's been murdering comics the last near decade.

Good art tho.

[Lock Jaw]

Kirsten Dunst coming back as Mary Jane, and Alfred Molina coming back as Doc Ock in the upcoming Spider-Man 3 movie.

Joining Jamie Foxx Electro and Spider-Men Andrew Garfield and Tobey Maguire

[Kalyx triaD]

Stealth Spidey 4. Raimi and Derickson are plotting.

[Lock Jaw]

Charlie Cox joining Spider-Man 3 as Daredevil

[Lock Jaw]

I guess Tobey isn't actually confirmed 100% yet...

[Shadow]

He's been spotted headed to costuming.

[M-A-G]

Charlie Cox joining Spider-Man 3 as Daredevil

That'd be some epic team-up if we're still talking Tom Holland's version. Maybe he's Parker's lawyer like in the animated series?

[Kalyx triaD]

OMFG guys

Jesus Christ

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Charlie coming back as Daredevil/Murdock is so great. If they can get Berenthal back....

[Lock Jaw]

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[Lock Jaw]

- Fantastic Four directed by Jon Watts announced for unknown date
- Guardian of the Galaxy Live Action Holiday Special announced for 2022
- Ironheart Disney+ series announced
- "Secret Invasion" (featuring Samuel L. Jackson and Ben Mendelsohn returning) and "Armor Wars" )featuring Don Cheadle) series announced
- Mark Ruffalo and Tim Roth (Abomination) confirmed to be in She-Hulk to some capacity

[Lock Jaw]

Oh, and Christian Bale confirmed to be playing Gorr the God Butcher in the next Thor movie

[M-A-G]

Sorry, but that Loki series looks like the least interesting of the bunch. I'm sure I'll eat my words later.

[M-A-G]

Fucking boss that Jaimie Alexander is returning as Sif. I missed her and she would've looked awesome amongst the rest of the women in that one scene in Endgame. :love:

[RP]

This type of shit is why I dont care about comics anymore.


https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/guardians-galaxy-comic-confirms-star-203107805.html

[M-A-G]

Let me guess: more "I can't connect with this character unless they like the same genitals I like" whining?

[Destor]

the political motivation behind the decision are whats irksome. proud christian plays the character. make the character bi to mock him. not surprised in the least though. everything is permissible except traditional.



that said i couldn't care less who a fictional character fucks.

[Shadow]

The thing is....he played Star Lord like he was bisexual. I'm sorry if you disagree with the decision but maybe blame Chris Pratt.

[Lock Jaw]

How did he play Star Lord as bisexual?

[Kalyx triaD]

The thing is....he played Star Lord like he was bisexual. I'm sorry if you disagree with the decision but maybe blame Chris Pratt.

Wut

[Kalyx triaD]

And how does one play a bisexual?

[M-A-G]

The thing is....he played Star Lord like he was bisexual. I'm sorry if you disagree with the decision but maybe blame Chris Pratt.

I mean, if he's bi, he's bi but I never got that vibe from the MCU version. He seemed like James Bond but just in space and dealing with alien women. His ship's name is the Milano; I can only assume that was named for Alyssa Milano. Was she a thing in 1988?

[Lock Jaw]

Willem Dafoe and Thomas Hayden Church reportedly in talks to come back as Green Goblin/Sandman now.....

[Lock Jaw]

No sign of Topher Grace

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Willem Dafoe and Thomas Hayden Church reportedly in talks to come back as Green Goblin/Sandman now.....

Dafoe my gawd yes!

Lmao if they being in Topher only to have him Harder Venom destroy him in seconds

[Lock Jaw]

Spider-Man's new costume:

https://static2.cbrimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/ASM2018063-VAR.jpg?q=50&fit=crop&w=740&h=1133&dpr=1.5

[Kalyx triaD]

Wut

[Lock Jaw]

https://static1.cbrimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/ASM2018062-VAR.jpg?q=50&fit=crop&w=740&h=1134&dpr=1.5

[Sixx]

But... why?

[Blonde Moment]

hate the colour scheme, Maybe Harry beats him a little too much.

[Sixx]

Those pajamas are more prone to get dirty.

[Lock Jaw]

But... why?

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[JimmyMess]

Word on the internets is that Chris Evans is in talks to come back as Cap.

I'm all for that!

[ClockShot]

Ethan Hawke signs on to the Moon Knight series as "the main villain."

That could be anybody. But I know Raoul Bushman was a frequent pain in the ass. Could be him.

[Lock Jaw]

Read a few Moon Knight series and appearances from the couple of years I read Marvel.... was not that interesting.... still better than the couple of Eternals things I read I guess....

[M-A-G]

https://static1.cbrimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/ASM2018062-VAR.jpg?q=50&fit=crop&w=740&h=1134&dpr=1.5

Looks cool. There was outrage over black suit Spider-Man and we all managed to move on.

[Shadow]

Episode 1 and 2 of WandaVision came out. I am so here for the sinister undertones throughout this show.