Marvel Universe Thread

[dronepool]

I don't.

Last thing Fantastic Four should be, is dark.

I meant Daredevil.

[Fignuts]

YES WE'VE ESTABLISHED THAT THANK YOU DRONEPOOL

[Kalyx triaD]

I'm sure this is floating around somewhere but I made a screen capture of that great shot with the Avengers capturing Loki:

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h230/Kalyx_triaD/AvengersGotYouLA.jpg

For some reason it didn't come out the same size I saved it as. Ah well. I've been enjoying the DVD-rip that went online this week. You can enjoy the little things, like Hulk's expressions.

[Lock Jaw]

DVD-rip, you say? I will be purchasing said DVD, but it doesn't come out for another month. *goes to search*

[Kalyx triaD]

Yeah it went up this week for stream sites so I guess the file is floating around somewhere.

[Schlomey]

Picked up Gambit #2 today. Can't wait until next week for hawkeye2 and the following week for the monthly avengers assemble.

[Lock Jaw]

I have heard about this Avengers Assemble book. Is it in continuity?

[Kalyx triaD]

All associated MCU material (comics) are meant to be canon. There's a series that pretty much introduces the Leader after his accident in Incredible Hulk. This is before Whedon took the helm, though, so I don't know if he'll consider the books tied to the movies.

[Reavant]

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/18863/2573398-avengers.jpg

[Reavant]

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/18863/2573546-wolverine3_super.jpg






wolverine set photo

[Kalyx triaD]

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/18863/2573398-avengers.jpg

Are they serious with Thor's armor being part... spandex or whatever?

[Kalyx triaD]

Way too many members, imo.

[mitchables]

You'll find the DVDRip files are legit. DVD/Blu-ray Avengers was released here in Australia on August 29.

[Inadequacy]

CannonBall and hindsight lad?

[Fignuts]

Oh god, please tell me that isn't cannonball.

Should name the book avengers army. Christ.

And Thor looks stupid.

And where the fuck is Luke Cage? How can you have spider-man on the team without Luke Cage? Their chemistry together has been the best part of spider-man joining the avengers.

Iron Man looks like a crappy movie toy. Like arctic attack batman or something.

[Fignuts]

Hickman's run on Future Foundation was brilliant though, so I guess we'll see.

[dronepool]

Thor and Cap look silly.

[Kalyx triaD]

I like Greg Land's Iron Man redesign. Cap is alright as well, being that their are shades of the movie attire in there, which I liked a lot.

Thor is stupid. Like... Spider-Thor or something with the half-pattern thing on his arms and legs. Completely trivializes the point of an armored God.

[dronepool]

I mostly really dislike Cap's helmet.. in Avengers and 'now' this.

[Boondock Saint]

Nice to see Cannonball (and possibly Sunspot?) getting a push

[Lock Jaw]

http://io9.com/5940888/weird-secrets-of-the-avengers-that-youd-never-have-guessed

Really interesting "trivia" about the Avengers movie

[Sixx]

Hm, this is weird.

The Avengers is coming out on Bluray and DVD in Poland today. So earlier than US?

Also, they showed not only The Avengers with subtitles in theatres here, but also a version with dubbing. This must be horrible, I thought they only dubbed cartoons.

[Schlomey]

You really just need to bite the bullet and move to the good ol USA. I mean Poland? Seriously? ;)

[Sixx]

You really just need to bite the bullet and move to the good ol USA. I mean Poland? Seriously? ;)

Hey, your ancestors loved it here.

[Shadow]

There's a reason they left. Perhaps your's should've taken the hint.

[Sixx]

There's a reason they left. Perhaps your's should've taken the hint.

Getting murdered isn't exactly "leaving".

[Schlomey]

Your mom loves it here ;)

[Fignuts]

You fuckers better stop talking shit about Poland. Shit's gonna get real in here in a hurry.

[XL]

Hm, this is weird.

The Avengers is coming out on Bluray and DVD in Poland today. So earlier than US?

Also, they showed not only The Avengers with subtitles in theatres here, but also a version with dubbing. This must be horrible, I thought they only dubbed cartoons.

Comes out on the 17th in the UK.

[Kalyx triaD]

Ultimate Iron Patriot:

http://i.newsarama.com/images/IronPatriotCoverF_02.jpg

Likely not Ultimate Norman Osborne.

Marvel has also begun trademarking "Iron Patriot" for mainstream use. He's set to appear in Iron Man 3 as War Machine's new duds.

[Kalyx triaD]

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[Schlomey]

Sweet

[dronepool]

http://i49.tinypic.com/207nhug.jpg


Wow, this is the only *new* book that isn't already on my list (Deadpool, Uncanny X-Force and Amazing Spider-Man) that I'm thinking of getting and not waiting for trades.

Way is mediocre, but I like the team.

[Sixx]

Why is Punisher a member of the Thunderbolts?

And Deadpool?

Who the fuck are these guys?

[The Destroyer]

Looks like Venom, Elektra and the Red Hulk.

Really not getting the concept of the Thunderbolts at all with this. They're meant to be villains trying to do right!

[Kalyx triaD]

I don't give a fuck that is one of the most badass teammates I've ever seen. Holy shit their enemies are screwed.

[dronepool]

http://www.newsarama.com/comics/marvel-now-thunderbolts-red-hulk.html

With the news of the December-debuting Marvel NOW! Thunderbolts still fresh — starring Red Hulk, Punisher, Elektra, Venom and Deadpool — Newsarama now brings you the first interview with series writer Daniel Way on the book.

Way makes it clear that it's not a black ops team like Secret Avengers or Uncanny X-Force — being led by Red Hulk might make that tricky — and that instead the Thunderbolts will be hitting their targets in the "loudest way possible." Series editor Jordan D. White told us earlier that this incarnation of Thunderbolts is not a government-sponsored team; as Way puts it, "They are the consequence of evil deeds, pure and simple."

The writer also discussed re-teaming with Preacher artist Steve Dillon, who he previously worked with on Wolverine: Origins, Supreme Power: Nighthawk and Bullseye: Greatest Hits; plus detailed his thoughts on each of the five initial team members — including Deadpool, who Way's sticking with after wrapping his four-year run on the character's solo ongoing series in October.

Newsarama: Daniel, Thunderbolts is a series with a very unique place within both Marvel and the comic book industry in general. It's one of the few new series from its era that's really endured, and though it's been characterized by frequent overhaul, it's usually retained a recognizable central concept. What was attractive to you about Thunderbolts? And though it looks like you're definitely going in a different direction, what would fans of past runs on the book find familiar with what you're doing?

Daniel Way: I can't help but think the reason this title has endured while others from that era haven't is because of the incredible work that [Kurt] Busiek and [Mark] Bagley did when the title was first launched. I think comics fandom is still gasping from that particular gut-punch — last page of the first issue, everything you thought you knew flew right out the window.

It's that sense of danger, of volatility, that I'm trying to preserve with my take on the series. In addition, I really enjoyed the political themes introduced by Warren Ellis, so that will also be an aspect with which fans (especially recent fans) will be familiar.

Nrama: It looks like the most prominent difference from most past Thunderbolts incarnations is that while everyone in this group can certainly be considered antiheroes, they're not villains, and are in fact being led/gathered by an Avenger. So, presumably, their goals are very different than past Thunderbolt squads — so what's their mission statement? It sounds sort of like an X-Force-type team, without being mutant-centric. What threats are they uniquely suited to take on? And, to cram one more question into this paragraph, will this be an uneasy team dynamic as one might expect, or will they find that they actually work together quite well?

Way: Yes; this is not "another X-Force." This is also not a covert ops team. When the Thunderbolts hit a target, they'll do so in the loudest way possible. Separately, on their own, these characters were waging open-ended campaigns. Why were they on their own? Why has no one stepped in to help them? Would not the world be a better place if organized crime was eliminated, or The Hand summarily wiped out?

Whether due to indifference, moral quandary or political agenda, there are pockets of infection throughout the MU that have been allowed to fester and grow. This team of Thunderbolts exists to cut out that infection, wherever it is found. They do not recognize boundaries or borders, be they moral, political or geographical. They can and will strike anyone, at any time, without warning. They are the consequence of evil deeds, pure and simple.

Nrama: You're certainly familiar with artist Steve Dillon (and he's certainly familiar with drawing the Punisher) — what do you think makes him the right choice for Thunderbolts, and is your approach to this series any different than your past collaborations with him?

Way: Well, this is definitely a "bigger" book... I mean, once you throw Red Hulk into the mix, the scale automatically goes through the roof. This team doesn't tackle small problems, and it doesn't provide discreet solutions.

What I've asked Steve to do — and which he's done, incredibly — is complement the global scale of this series. We all know that, of the small group of artists who can do it at all, Steve Dillon is one of the best there is at communicating nuance and human emotion through his artwork and visual storytelling. What we tend to forget is that this guy cut his teeth doing some of the most bombastic comics ever in 2000 AD and Warrior. What you're going to see in this new series is an amalgamation of these styles; a perfect storm of shock and awe. As comics fans, we're used to seeing insane, widescreen destruction. With Steve, you'll feel it.


Nrama: Let's look at the team members individually. At the forefront is the Red Hulk, which in some ways seems like a no-brainer — back when the Thunderbolts first debuted in the '90s, people guessed that Thunderbolt Ross might have something to do with it, and now he finally does. What do you like about the character, and since he's the leader of the team (and this looks to be the main series featuring the character thus far in the Marvel NOW! era), is it fair to say that he's the de facto main character?

Way: Red Hulk is the metaphorical 800-pound gorilla in this situation. He's also a former general with decades of battlefield experience. Only Red Hulk has the capacity to lead this team, and only Thunderbolt Ross has the clarity of vision to effectively deploy them.

Nrama: Deadpool is in the book, certainly good news for fans of your run on the character's solo book. What aspects of the character are you looking to explore that you couldn't in his own series? And since he's part of the seemingly similarly structured Uncanny X-Force series, would you say he'll be filling a similar niche in this book as he does there?

Way: Though he's not a mutant, Deadpool is a member of X-Force for one simple reason: He's a killer. That's not, however, why he's a member of the Thunderbolts. Red Hulk has plenty of killers, already — what he doesn't have is someone versed in non-linear tactics. Red Hulk — Ross — knows every play in the book but what Deadpool knows isn't in the book.

That being said, Deadpool does kill a whole lotta people in this series


Nrama: Venom is also in another team book right now, Secret Avengers. Is his playing the same type of role in this book? And though the Venom you wrote back in the 2003 series is very, very different from where the character is now, do you see anything in common with what you did then and what you're doing now?

Way: The only common thread in those two series is that the symbiote is a character separate from the host, and that is definitely something that I'll be using.

Previously, Flash Thompson was given an incredible weapon to use... and was then told not to use it to its full potential. This was not acceptable to Flash or the symbiote. Within the Thunderbolts camp, however, there are no such restrictions.

Nrama: Elektra is an intriguing choice; she hasn't been seen much in the past couple of years, and isn't known for being a team player. What can you share at this point about her motivations, and how she'll fit in with the rest of the group?

Way: Well, none of these characters are really "team players" but Elektra is definitely a standout in this regard. Elektra remains on the same path she set upon when her father was murdered, the same path that has led her time and again to her own death. Her motivation is to reach the end of that path... alive. And for that, experience has taught her, she'll need allies.

Nrama: Then finally, the biggest x-factor, so to speak, is Punisher. Not only is he definitely known as a solo act, Red Hulk's Avengers teammates are declaring war on him starting in October with the War Zone miniseries. What's exciting to you about placing Punisher in a group dynamic?

Way: Punisher's involvement — why Red Hulk wants him on the team — is actually an important plot thread in this series. After all, he's the one character on the team without any superhuman or supernatural powers. He's just a man, committed fully to a course of action that will surely lead to death and failure... and yet, he soldiers on. Does this make Punisher less human, or more? Suffice it to say that "savage" is a term never far from Thunderbolt Ross' mind.

[Schlomey]

Have yet to learn why we have a red hulk and where he came from

[Sixx]

Why is Spiderman/Venom weilding an ingram?

[Miotch]

Have yet to learn why we have a red hulk and where he came from
Red Hulk, from what I've pieced together, is the general that always was chasing down Hulk. Radiation made him this way, and he was a bad guy. Now he's a good guy.

Red Hulk is pretty gay to be honest.

[Kalyx triaD]

I thought Red Hulk was cool until his identity was revealed (cop out, imo, same with Red She-Hulk - which now that I look back should have been obvious). He'll probably be more fun in the upcoming cartoon series which actually sounds okay.

And since he is Thunderbolt Ross-

WAIT!: Thunderbolt General Ross in the Thunderbolts, very cute Marvel, I just now got that.

...Anyway, since he is Ross, they should keep his goatee and make it black in Hulk form to make him more than a palette swap character. A Hulk with a goatee would look cool to me.

Edit: All Thor 2 updates/analysis/media will now be in its own thread now that some assets are out.

[Sixx]

A Hulk with a goatee?

That shit would look just dumb.

[Kalyx triaD]

Very soon Cyclops will cement himself officially as the biggest dick in the Marvel Universe. This should be very interesting.

[ClockShot]

R.I.P. Professor X.

[Kalyx triaD]

I wouldn't have quite said that.

[Miotch]

Cyclops has always been the biggest dick in the marvel universe. Seriously have always hated him.

[Fignuts]

When I started AvX, I wasn't a huge fan, but now I can't wait to see the conclusion. The whole 5 Phoenixes twist, completely turned it around for me.

[dronepool]

Why is Spiderman/Venom weilding an ingram?

Because it's *Flash Thompson* (his high school bully/big Spider-Man supporter) and he was in the army, but lost his legs... so they have some secret program where they gave him the Venom suit to do missions for them (before him joining Thunderbolts)

[Nowhere Man]

*Thompson

But yeah, that's pretty much what's going on with Venom these days. I think Eddie Brock is currently bonded to the Toxin symbiote, who was spawned off of Carnage. So Brock is now running around in the first suit's grandkid.

[dronepool]

Thanks for that.

Whatever happened to the cop who had Toxin?

[Nowhere Man]

I don't think they ever actually said what happened to him. Presumably, either Blackheart killed him in order to separate the symbiote from him (since the next time Toxin showed up, Blackheart was trying to make clones of the symbiote for some reason or another), or he'll show up at some point to try and take the symbiote back from Brock.

[Fignuts]

Hope every symbiote dies except for the original venom. Hate how oversaturated they were in the 90's, and then they go and make Toxin, just when it was getting back to normal.

Will always have a special place in my heart for Sentry, after took Carnage into outer space, and ripped him in half.

[Skippord]

I thought Anti-Venom looked pretty cool

I have not read anything involving him though

[Schlomey]

Avengers Assemble #7

Features Thanos on the cover. Getting in to the story I was very pumped for the release of #7. I hate waiting an entire month for the next issue! This one did not deliver. Thanos was barely in it. Most of the action and dialog was lame and a set up for things to come later....i hate that I wasted a month in anticipation.

2.5/5

[Sixx]

Hope every symbiote dies except for the original venom. Hate how oversaturated they were in the 90's, and then they go and make Toxin, just when it was getting back to normal.

Will always have a special place in my heart for Sentry, after took Carnage into outer space, and ripped him in half.

Carnage was amazing. Only one of the Venom-like characters that was worth something.

Maximum Carnage is probably my favourite Spiderman story.

[Kalyx triaD]

I liked the game.

[Boondock Saint]

AvX did not need to be 12 issues. Jesus Christ. Please end.

[Reavant]

Looks like Venom, Elektra and the Red Hulk.

Really not getting the concept of the Thunderbolts at all with this. They're meant to be villains trying to do right!

umm outside of elektra and i say that because i dont know her history... i believe you made your own point and are still confused by it

[Fignuts]

He's not confused. No one on the team is a villain. Anti-hero at best, but no villains at all. Red Hulk was on the avengers, for crying out loud.

[Reavant]

when red hulk debuted he trashed the avengers, the watcher, the hulk and others until his identity was revealed.. so he was written as a villain and was even seen as such when he first joined the avengers

Noone really knows that its flash in the symbiot... Remember Mac Gargen? He was in no way ever a hero in any sense and he wore the venom symbiot for a long time. So yes the symbiot was once a major villain.

Punisher fights with heros and villains. say what you want in terms of his motives and his moral ground, in the eyes of the public and other heros, hes a villain if not terrorist.... same goes for deadpool for the most part.

[Reavant]

sandman was on the avengers too ya know... i think everyone would classify him as a villain

[Reavant]

Hope every symbiote dies except for the original venom. Hate how oversaturated they were in the 90's, and then they go and make Toxin, just when it was getting back to normal.

Will always have a special place in my heart for Sentry, after took Carnage into outer space, and ripped him in half.

they did for the most part... when brock lost the antivenom suit, he killed hybrid, scream and all the others. The only living ones are venom, toxin, carnage and the purple one from the latest carnage series.

[Schlomey]

Where do you guys go for comic book news and stories etc....here is where I visit:

1. Marvel.com to check the current and future release dates
2. Newsarama.com for articles news and stories
3. Midtown Comics.com to buy back issues and look at stuff I can't afford
4. ComicBookMovies.com to learn about CBM's and updates from the movies being filmed
5. WhatCulture.com for all sorts of good shit
6. ComicBookResource.com for news and shit
7. zergnet.com for interesting lists


Ok post that and also any places you go to download digital comics

1. Piratebay.org
2. freecomicsdownload.com

[Reavant]

comicvine.com

[Kalyx triaD]

You cover the same sites I cover, and then there's SuperHeroHype.com, which does a well job with movies and TV shows.

[Schlomey]

ok next question:

I'm looking for a comic based message board to join. Similiar to this site and one with a good amount of traffic....

anyone?

[Epic]

G.M. Reinfeldt imagines that one day, someone will make a comic of his work.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0096U8EEO

[Kalyx triaD]

ok next question:

I'm looking for a comic based message board to join. Similiar to this site and one with a good amount of traffic....

anyone?

I used to post on Comic Book Resource's forums years ago. It was alright.

[Schlomey]

I just signed up there actually. It's a vBulletin site like I wanted and so far so good. Just creepin' for the time being.

[dronepool]

I post at Cbr sometimes. Mostly just read news and thoughts on certain comics or other comics I don't buy or read. anymore.

[Epic]

I once spoke to G.M. Reinfeldt and he commented that comics are crutches for the literaly challenged. I tend to agree. If you want a good story, read a good book, like G.M. Reinfeldt's latest release,available here, http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0096U8EEO

[Schlomey]

you are bullshit. and that comment about comics are crutches is bullshit. I read literary works and I read comics. You should fuck off. Die. Regenerate like DeadPool and then die a few more times.


oh yeah. And quit spamming me you fucktard.

[Epic]

you are bullshit. and that comment about comics are crutches is bullshit. I read literary works and I read comics. You should fuck off. Die. Regenerate like DeadPool and then die a few more times.


oh yeah. And quit spamming me you fucktard.

You remind me of an angry macacque throwing poop in it's cage. Please calm down. It is not my fault that you are not intelligent enough to appreciate a truly erudite work of art, like G.M. Reinfeldt's "Thea's Final Entry ", found here, http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0096U8EEO.

[Reavant]

I once spoke to G.M. Reinfeldt and he commented that comics are crutches for the literaly challenged. I tend to agree. If you want a good story, read a good book, like G.M. Reinfeldt's latest release,available here, http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0096U8EEO

hmmm considering I'm pretty sure he said "literary" and not "literaly" (which isn't a correctly spelled word by the way *literally*) I'm thinking that you may be just as challenged as the people here who like comics so please keep your thoughts to yourself. Thanks.

[Kalyx triaD]

http://i.newsarama.com/images/x-forcenow_02.jpg

[Miotch]

I heard that G.M. Reinfeldt touches little boys.

[Reavant]

i wonder if colossus gets rid of the cyttorak

[Shadow]

Can we report this idiot for spamming?

[Kalyx triaD]

He already has. Gears are turning and all that.

[Sixx]

http://i.newsarama.com/images/x-forcenow_02.jpg

His robotic hand looks awkward.

I used to love this guy in this X-Men something crossover I don't remember the name of. The one that revealed he was Cyclops' son and travelled in time and whatnot.

[Nowhere Man]

His robotic hand looks awkward.

I used to love this guy in this X-Men something crossover I don't remember the name of. The one that revealed he was Cyclops' son and travelled in time and whatnot.

That would be Cable, I'm pretty positive.

[Sixx]

That would be Cable, I'm pretty positive.

Yeah, that I know. I just don't remember the name of the crossover.

[Nowhere Man]

Ah, sorry, I misread that.

[Sixx]

X-Cutioner's Song.

That's the crossover I meant. Had to dig up a comic book.

[Rammsteinmad]

I thought it was that Cyclops/Phoenix mini-series from the 90's. I can't remember anyway.

[Fignuts]

http://geek-news.mtv.com//wp-content/uploads/geek/2012/09/AvengersArena_01_Cover_575.jpg

Not even trying to hide the fact that it's a Battle Royale rip-off.

[Reavant]

no its a hunger games rip off

[Reavant]

http://1.media.dorkly.cvcdn.com/31/71/e3971a55a8acb260e2c2411f70a05d9f-unbelievable-venom-body-paint.jpg

http://blastr.com/assets_c/2012/09/VenomBodyPaint1-thumb-550x413-100530.jpg

[Nowhere Man]

Neat.

[Fignuts]

no its a hunger games rip off

Can't tell if this is a joke post.

Really hope it is.

[Fignuts]

http://yellmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/cover-battle-royale.jpg

[Reavant]

Can't tell if this is a joke post.

Really hope it is.

its avengers academy characters in a death battle royal.... avengers academy is kids... not a joke post

[Reavant]

i mean yea they riped off the cover of battle royal but lets not look past the content

[Kalyx triaD]

Hunger Games = Battle Royal

[Fignuts]

its avengers academy characters in a death battle royal.... avengers academy is kids... not a joke post

Battle Royale is kids as well.

[Kalyx triaD]

Since the Falcon will more than likely be a SHIELD agent, you think they're gonna have a thing between him and Hawkeye? Some avian rivalry perhaps? And will they use Stark tech to enable his flight abilities?

[Blitz]

http://geek-news.mtv.com//wp-content/uploads/geek/2012/09/AvengersArena_01_Cover_575.jpg

Not even trying to hide the fact that it's a Battle Royale rip-off.
Is that fucking Darkhawk in the back row? Didn't even know he was still around.

[Miotch]

So I'm looking for some recommendations for something new to read.

A bit of background here...

I read comics as a kid. Loved them. Then for whatever reason I just sort of stopped. I think the last big thing I read as a kid was the Infinity Gauntlet shit. Dopplegangers, etc.

As an 'adult' I've read a few things that I thoroughly have enjoyed. 100 Bullets, Watchmen, Civil War (meh), World War Hulk (meh), but nothing consistent. The Walking Dead books were good too.

Fast forward to today. I recently have gone on something of a reading binge because of the Marvel app on my ipad. They gave away some free teaser issues, and in turn I burned through Runaways (loved it, especially the first run) and just caught up with AvX. So I'm looking for something else to read, and I figure I'd ask you guys for some ideas.

[Sixx]

So I'm looking for some recommendations for something new to read.

A bit of background here...

I read comics as a kid. Loved them. Then for whatever reason I just sort of stopped. I think the last big thing I read as a kid was the Infinity Gauntlet shit. Dopplegangers, etc.

As an 'adult' I've read a few things that I thoroughly have enjoyed. 100 Bullets, Watchmen, Civil War (meh), World War Hulk (meh), but nothing consistent. The Walking Dead books were good too.

Fast forward to today. I recently have gone on something of a reading binge because of the Marvel app on my ipad. They gave away some free teaser issues, and in turn I burned through Runaways (loved it, especially the first run) and just caught up with AvX. So I'm looking for something else to read, and I figure I'd ask you guys for some ideas.

Try Preacher.

Honestly, I only read Marvel as a kid and thought I couldn't go through with anything else, but this comic blew my mind. Read it on the PC, cause you can't get it here.

[Miotch]

I'll look into that. Thanks.

This request is obviously not limited to Marvel by the way. I'm just looking for great shit to read.

[Schlomey]

To Miotch:

Personally I have LOVED reading Ed Brubakers 1-25 of Captain America and can direct you to torrent or can help you get digital copies....OR you can by the run in hardback form on Amazon.

If you don't like Captain America I can give other suggestions.


here is the amazon link to the ed brubaker captain america book: http://www.amazon.com/Captain-America-Omnibus-Vol-1/dp/0785128662/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1347913699&sr=8-2&keywords=ed+brubaker+captain+america





(I just started the Daredevil 2011 run and is up to the 18th issue coming out this week...so far so good but I am too new to it to call it an official recommendation)

[Miotch]

http://geek-news.mtv.com//wp-content/uploads/geek/2012/09/AvengersArena_01_Cover_575.jpg

Not even trying to hide the fact that it's a Battle Royale rip-off.

Just so I understand this, the book falls outside of the normal 'marvel timeline', correct? Because if not, that's a shit load of characters they're going to kill off.

Also, X-23 pretty much has to win this.

[Fignuts]

I don't think it does.

I'm sure X-23 will be the main character, and one of the top competitors, but she's not quite wolverine. Hell, Hazmat could probably slow her down quite a bit, if not outright killing her.

[Blitz]

Go Darkhawk.

[Fignuts]

I don't even know who most of those characters are. Recognize darkhawk, x-23, and hazmat.

Also, I thought darkhawk was an adult. And a cosmic assassin, or at least rebelled against his fellow cosmic assassins.

[Kalyx triaD]

Actually X23 may be deadlier than Wolverine. Not just saying that as a fan.

[Fignuts]

In some ways she is, but I think overall, Wolvie's experience gives him the edge.

[Kalyx triaD]

Yeah.

[Blitz]

No one's beating Darkhawk, guys.

[Miotch]

Nico and Chase are also in there from The Runaways.

[Miotch]

Also it seems like they're doing this to kill off quite a few characters.

[Lock Jaw]

I don't really know anything about it.... but... is it confirmed that they are going to be killing each other? I mean, you can have a series have a cover that is an "homage" to Battle Royale without meaning that the series is actually about them killing each other.

[Miotch]

Everything I've read is that Arcade (I believe) brings them all to an island where they must fight or die, last man standing sort of deal.

[Fignuts]

Yeah, but I doubt the body count will be as high as BR. 3 or 4 characters that no one will give a shit about, will die, and the rest will figure out a way off the island.

[Kalyx triaD]

Clearly, there's a purpose to us putting him in the end of that movie. We do have plans for him[Thanos]. [...] I wouldn't say we ever feel the need to rush anything one way or the other. We succeeded in Phase One because we stuck to our guns and stuck to the plan. That plan took place over many, many years and it ultimately paid off. I see Phase Two unfolding in the same way of us taking our time, us doing what's right for each individual movie, while folding in elements that will not only build up to the culmination of Phase Two, but even Phase Three.

[Kalyx triaD]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/307755_473039586063414_1919384491_n.jpg

[Miotch]

Gross

[Fignuts]

Yeah, still not feeling the gold-centric suit. Love the actual design, but the red and gold need to be swapped.

[Triple Naitch]

Way too much gold. Makes him look naked.

[Lock Jaw]

I'm sure it will look better in motion and when not a drawing.

Maybe.

[alvarado52]

I would like to see the colors swapped as well, but i thought Caps suit looked ridic in pics and it turned it decent in motion.

[Miotch]

Wait that's from the movie?

[Reavant]

well, the marvel NOW suit looks just like that so all their doing is sticking with what will be current comic design

[Fignuts]

No it doesn't.

[Reavant]

http://www.fanboybuzz.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/IM2012002_DC11.jpg
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9mg5lHHqh1qc63ooo1_1280.jpg

[Reavant]

not quite as much gold but its not that far off

[Miotch]

I can't wait til they turn into motorcycles and let Sam Witwikki drive them around.

[Fignuts]

We are talking about the amount of gold in the suit, not the actual design.

I'm fine with the design. Looks cool. The gold is very jarring though.

[Fignuts]

TOTAL MISUNDERSTANDING

DON'T REAR NAKED CHOKE ME

[Reavant]

yea i kinda wish they reversed it like the marvel now design but whatevs

[Fignuts]

These are cool.

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll266/koyuki7/ironmanarmory1.jpg

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll266/koyuki7/ironmanarmory2.jpg

[Fignuts]

And finally the Bleeding Edge Armor. Might be my favorite.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_W8Yjt1yVVOM/TNRGfCpD-qI/AAAAAAAAAow/M0S-AYoaOMw/s1600/newironmanarmor.jpg

[Miotch]

I quite like the Ultimate armor.

http://www.bleedingcool.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/ultimate.jpg

[Kalyx triaD]

Extremis all the way.

[DaveBrawl]

The Modular armor was always my favorite.

[Fignuts]

ew

[Fignuts]

Extremis is a close second, but I like the placement of the gold in the BE armor. It's different without being too drastic like the new movie armor.

[DaveBrawl]

Don't you ew me Fignuts.

[Lock Jaw]

http://i.newsarama.com/images/hugh-jackman-the-wolverine.jpg

Hugh looking jacked, man.

[The Destroyer]

Dear god, those abs. :'(

Roll on a trailer or something. :y:

[Kalyx triaD]

Nice. I fuckin love this guy.

[Fignuts]

It appears that Hugh Jackman ages about as much as the character he plays.

[Blitz]

Just read Deadpool Kills The Marvel Universe. Fun.

[Schlomey]

Just read Deadpool Kills The Marvel Universe. Fun.



A quick throwaway 4 issue series but I loved the artwork and it was totally original. Good choice.

[Fignuts]

It was good, but way too short.

[Schlomey]

I would rather he killed people off one by one than pages of dead characters.....felt kind of cheated at times. So ya I agree....but it was still a fun mag.

[Lock Jaw]

http://www.comicbookresources.com/assets/images/articles/1348588777.jpghttp://www.comicbookresources.com/assets/images/articles/1348588779.jpg

Looks like the "League of the Ten Rings" thing from the first movie will probably play a big part.

[Kalyx triaD]

Big part? The fucking Mandarin is in the movie.

[Rammsteinmad]

First look at the Mandarin in Iron Man 3. Holy fucking shit this is gonna be sick!

Potential Avengers 2 spoiler alert!

Really fucking pumped for this thing now!

http://www.aroma-pure.com/images/mandarin.jpg

[Lock Jaw]

Big part? The fucking Mandarin is in the movie.

So? They could have ignored the League of the Ten Rings thing completely if they wanted to.

[Kalyx triaD]

Very unlikely they'd have him and not bring out the Ten Rings, especially after hinting at it for two movies (less so in IM2).

[Lock Jaw]

More like NONE in IM2.

[Kalyx triaD]

The guy who gave Whiplash his papers to get to that race was a Ten Rings agent.

[Lock Jaw]

I must have missed that. Have only watched Iron Man 2 a total of two times. Have watched every other MCU movie upwards of that.

[Kalyx triaD]

It's a Word of God thing anyway.

[Lock Jaw]

Oh. So one of those things that didn't actually happen, then. Gotcha.

More like NONE in IM2.

[Kalyx triaD]

The term WoG is important for a reason.

[Lock Jaw]

Except that it isn't important at all. Except that we have argued about this before, I think... so I do not really wish to go into it again.

[Kalyx triaD]

Very well.

[Fignuts]

Get a room.

[Fignuts]

lol did everyone see that?

I told them to "Get a room."

[Fignuts]

Oh, and still not liking how The Boys is shaping up to end.

So fucking dumb.

[Kalyx triaD]

Was this posted?

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/dehn8RqOt7U" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[Skippord]

good God that was depressing

[Fignuts]

Damn, I really wish that would have gotten left in.

[Kalyx triaD]

Yeah I feel for the guy.

...But he should have gotten her number. And this makes her shots in the final battle more fitting, including what she said in that interview afterward.

[Fignuts]

Cap definitely deserved a bit more thorough intro than he got in the final cut, considering he is kind of the field leader. Or at least he is once they stop pummeling each other in the face.

This would have been perfect.

[Blitz]

Yeah great scene, shoulda been in there.

Just the shot of his reflection in the computer screen after turning off the propaganda film...genius.

[Kalyx triaD]

<iframe src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/47911531" width="500" height="281" frameborder="0" webkitAllowFullScreen mozallowfullscreen allowFullScreen></iframe> <p><a href="http://vimeo.com/47911531">the scene.</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/user6854350">Daria K.</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>

[Fignuts]

That one I'm okay with being cut.

[Skippord]

I enjoyed the Maria Hill Framing devices that got cut out

[XL]

Pretty lacklustre set of extras on the Avengers Blu Ray, tbf.

[Fignuts]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/10/02/article-2211488-154CB6FF000005DC-94_634x609.jpg

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Not sure if it's aready been mentioned but some of the main characters for SHIELD have been named. Not sure how credible a source this is though.

http://tvline.com/2012/10/01/joss-whedon-s-h-i-e-l-d-casting/

SKYE | This late-20s woman sounds like a dream: fun, smart, caring and confident – with an ability to get the upper hand by using her wit and charm.

AGENT GRANT WARD | Quite the physical specimen and “cool under fire,” he sometimes botches interpersonal relations. He’s a quiet one with a bit of a temper, but he’s the kind of guy that grows on you.

AGENT ALTHEA RICE | Also known as “The Calvary,” this hard-core soldier has crazy skills when it comes to weapons and being a pilot. But her experiences have left her very quiet and a little damaged.

AGENT LEO FITZ and AGENT JEMMA SIMMONS | These two came through training together and still choose to spend most of their time in each other’s company. Their sibling-like relationship is reinforced by their shared nerd tendencies – she deals with biology and chemistry, he’s a whiz at the technical side of weaponry.

Are they established Marvel characters or original characters?

[The Destroyer]

Never heard of any them.

Not necessarily their final names though, looks like they could be from casting ads and I've seen a lot of those in the past which just use any old name.

[Sixx]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/10/02/article-2211488-154CB6FF000005DC-94_634x609.jpg

Is that Iron Patriot?

[Kalyx triaD]

Yes visually, but that is actually War Machine in some fresh propaganda paint. Great to see them use the whole suits rather than the football mocap stuff.

[Kalyx triaD]

IM3 is filming in Miami, I think in South Beach. I should get out there and... do something.

[Sixx]

IM3 is filming in Miami, I think in South Beach. I should get out there and... do something.

Invade the set swinging your Thor's hammer.

[Kalyx triaD]

Complete with lines from their fight.

[Fignuts]

Avengers vs X-men 12 comes out tomorrow.

Was kinda "meh" on the first couple issues, but they quickly turned it around, and now I can't wait to read the conclusion. This has been the best major crossover since civil war. Maybe better.

[Fignuts]

Great ending. Gonna buy the trade when it hits.

[loopydate]

Not sure if it's aready been mentioned but some of the main characters for SHIELD have been named. Not sure how credible a source this is though.

http://tvline.com/2012/10/01/joss-whedon-s-h-i-e-l-d-casting/

SKYE | This late-20s woman sounds like a dream: fun, smart, caring and confident – with an ability to get the upper hand by using her wit and charm.

AGENT GRANT WARD | Quite the physical specimen and “cool under fire,” he sometimes botches interpersonal relations. He’s a quiet one with a bit of a temper, but he’s the kind of guy that grows on you.

AGENT ALTHEA RICE | Also known as “The Calvary,” this hard-core soldier has crazy skills when it comes to weapons and being a pilot. But her experiences have left her very quiet and a little damaged.

AGENT LEO FITZ and AGENT JEMMA SIMMONS | These two came through training together and still choose to spend most of their time in each other’s company. Their sibling-like relationship is reinforced by their shared nerd tendencies – she deals with biology and chemistry, he’s a whiz at the technical side of weaponry.

Are they established Marvel characters or original characters?

I'm guessing not particularly credible, because I'd hope that a casting call would know the difference between "cavalry" and "calvary."

[Lock Jaw]

I have seen the same info reported elsewhere (spelling mistake included), so I am guessing it is legit.

[Kalyx triaD]

Remember Whedon likes to use placeholder names and characters for his projects.

[Kalyx triaD]

Then again, the media has been largely on point with Marvel happenings.

[Kalyx triaD]

Started a proper Iron Man 3 thread where all news and media will be posted. Official trailer was announced to launch Oct 23.

[Kalyx triaD]

The Walking Dead recurring player Michael Rooker, who previously appeared in writer-director James Gunn's Super and Slither, says he wants to play Rocket Raccoon in the upcoming Marvel movie: I love raccoons. Raccoons are my friends (Laughs)!...Oh, yeah. Most certainly. I know that James Gunn is doing it. He is directing it, and he is re-writing it. He is a very loyal director. He is a very loyal writer, when it comes to working with people that he knows and loves. He really appreciates the efforts that each actor puts into these roles. And I would be very honored and pleased to work with James Gunn again... Whether it will happen or not, I don't know. But he is a dynamite guy, and we have remained friends ever since we worked together on Slither.

He also notes that he has particular experience relevant to the role of Rocket Raccoon, as he did motion capture work for Call of Duty: Black Ops 2. More at the link, including his call for fans to campaign for him to get the role.

[Reavant]

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/40/2629022-dp_nationaltacoday_oct_4_super.png

[Kalyx triaD]

If you look at the Ultimate Spider-Man cartoon as a superhero JD from scrubs, you begin to hate it less.

[Kalyx triaD]

http://i.newsarama.com/images/deadpool-avengers-gangnam.jpg

[Shadow]

Oh Deadpool...always on top of culture.

[Kalyx triaD]

I would love it. I would love it. I personally have close ties to Marvel because of Kevin Feige, because Kevin worked for me. But to take our characters and mingle them in the way that they were written, yeah, absolutely.

...In regard to an X-Men vs Avengers movie. This is her humoring a question but I found it interesting.

[Kalyx triaD]

http://i.newsarama.com/images/supriorspider-man_02.jpg
http://i.newsarama.com/images/supspider-man1_02.jpg

[dronepool]

Superior Spider-Man with Dan Slott looks cool and it'll stick with it. I'm glad I still will only buy 3 monthly Marvel books and not a crap ton of NOW books.

[Nowhere Man]

Dan Slott has been incredibly good on Spider-Man, but after reading up on what they're going to do with it, I have no interest whatsoever in a "dark and gritty" Spider-Man. I read Spidey because he's a fun, wise-cracking smartass who's able to grin and bear it even through the worst of times, not because he's fucking Batman with web-shooters.

Also, ten bucks says the whole thing that turns him into a dark and violent anti-hero is that somebody kills Mary Jane. That's pretty much the only thing they haven't done to him yet.

[Kalyx triaD]

Read AvX 12. Cute.

[Fignuts]

I like that Cyclops isn't just absolved, and in fact, he almost seems remorseless.

[Kalyx triaD]

Yeah he's going down a dark path. Logan seems to pissed to talk to him.

[Miotch]

I would like to see Scott Summers die a brutal death, but I felt that way long before he killed Xavier.

[Kalyx triaD]

More than likely he'll come out of this a new major villain.

[Fignuts]

I dunno about that.

Marvel pussed out on the scarlet witch. Still pissed they redeemed her, when she could have been a great new addition to the Avengers rogues gallery.

[Kalyx triaD]

If Magneto can flip/flop why not Cyke. He has heat as it is.

[Rammsteinmad]

I'm (as always) behind with my comics. Why so much heat on Summers?

[Kalyx triaD]

He's a dick.

[Miotch]

He's always been a dick, too. It's not just his recent doings.

[Fignuts]

If Magneto can flip/flop why not Cyke. He has heat as it is.

Yeah, Magneto flipped because marvel pussed out on him too.

New x-men? Grant Morrison? Epic destruction of New York that was so awesome that it was emulated in X-men 3: Last Stand?

Far too bold for Quesada, apparently.

Love marvel, and will always prefer it over DC, but they need to grow a set, ffs.

[Kalyx triaD]

http://geek-news.mtv.com//wp-content/uploads/geek/2012/10/Avengers.jpg
http://media.comicbookmovie.com/images/users/gallerypictures/49271L.jpg

These cartoons will debut next Summer and expand on the 'Disney-verse' started in Ultimate Spider-Man. I'm only now starting to accept USM, but AA will be produced by Man of Action (Ben 10), and Paul Dini is working on HAoS. That's some quality staff there.

Clark Gregg, everybody's favorite SHILD agent, will be in the pilot of the SHIELD TV series. Whether this retcons his death or will be a flashback is not revealed. He is currently playing an undercover agent in USM.

[dronepool]

They canceled EMH for that? Bastards.

[Shadow]

The fuck they do to A-Bomb?

[Kalyx triaD]

Have him voiced by Seth Green.

[Boondock Saint]

Looks shit

[Schlomey]

http://www.newsarama.com/common/media/video/player.php?videoRef=NA_121014_nycc_alonso


video. Axel Alonso talks about Marvel NoW! and the end of A vs X.

[Lock Jaw]

Ant-Man movie finally gets a release date of November 6, 2015. That's after Avengers 2.

[Boondock Saint]

That's considered Phase Three then?

[Kalyx triaD]

I suppose so.

[Lock Jaw]

Doesn't even have to be part of any "Phase". Could just be a standalone with no references or ties to the larger universe. Then, only if it is successful, they can bring in Ant-Man into the bigger picture.

[Lock Jaw]

CM Punk to write the introduction to the Avengers vs X-Men collection: http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/2012/10/15/wwe-cm-punk-avengers-x-men-collection/1634211/

[Schlomey]

I am assuming that Hank Pym/Ant-Man will be making his debut slowly over the course of the next few films or possibly just be in Avengers 2. Giving people a reason to see his stand alone movie is key. Ant-Man is a great character to us, who know him and what he has done...But to an average movie-goer they will need some reassurance this isn't a spoof hero flick due to the corny name.

I assume he will show up as a scientist if Thor ventures to earth in the new film and maybe the same in Cap 2 and definately see an appearance if not a co-starring role in Avengers 2.

Any leads on who is playing Hank? And please don't say Ryan Reynolds.

[Lock Jaw]

Last I heard, Hank Pym wasn't even the main character. He was gonna be in it in flashbacks, but Ant-Man would be either Scott Lang or Eric O'Grady.

[mitchables]

Coulson is apparently not only in the pilot of the SHIELD series, but apparently its main character.


One sec, I'll find a source on that.

[mitchables]

http://populationgo.com/post/33533018982/coulson-lives-as-the-main-character-of-whedons

Fan favourite character, Agent Phil Coulson, has been revealed as the main character of Joss Whedon’s SHIELD television series at NYCC today.
During the Marvel TV Panel, Clark Gregg himself was present as a memorial video was shown. However, the video soon changed to Joss Whedon and Kevin Fiege, who announced that Coulson will be headlining the SHIELD show, and the show was developed with that in mind since the beginning.
How Coulson will return to the screen has yet to be revealed, though Gregg himself suggested a few theories himself—returning as the Vision as some websites have speculated, or the use of a Life Model Decoy or the Tesseract to explain his death in The Avengers.

[mitchables]

Also lol @ that Avengers cartoon. "All your favourites from the movie, plus Falcon, I guess"

[Fignuts]

Ultron for phase 3 then, one would assume.

[Kalyx triaD]

If Coulson returns with the explanation of being Vision, or having used a LMD, this would point to Ultron as a Phase Three villain, especially since Hank Pym may debut in that era of the MCU.

This is assuming Marvel thought that far ahead, but it sorta lines up.

[Kalyx triaD]

We're talking a movie series getting into 10+ years of length at Phase Three. I'm thinking it'll be reboot/recast city after Avengers 2.

And to be honest, I rather Phase 3 be the final act of the greatest experiment in comic book movies (nay, action movies in general), and going out with Avengers 3: Civil War. Ultron's cool but seriously, nothing can be as epic as that.

And into the future, the next step is universal crossovers. Avengers/JLA 2021?

[Fignuts]

Ultron is the penultimate villain, for the avengers. More so than even Thanos, despite his greater power.

Speaking as someone who has read EVERY issue of avengers ever, it has to end with him. Civil War was epic, but Avengers fans know that whenever Ultron shows up...hell, when even his name is mentioned, the entire atmosphere of the story changes. It's unexplainable really, but an Ultron story in Avengers just has a different feel from everything else. It's a always a total "shit just got real" moment whenever he shows up, and not even the civil war concept can match it, imo.

[Kalyx triaD]

Team Captain America vs Team Iron Man. Big screen. I'm there.

[Kalyx triaD]

http://i.newsarama.com/images/deadpool-avengers-gangnam.jpg

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/182dd2ay23mpojpg/original.jpg

[loopydate]

Lo- Lo- Lo- Lo- Lo- Logan Gangnam Style!

[loopydate]

Heeeeeeeey, sexy laday!

*snikt* *snikt* *snikt* *snikt* *snikt*

[Schlomey]

Avengers Assemble #8 was a slight step up from #7....Pretty let down with how the run ended. Seemed called in like it was nothing.

[Kalyx triaD]

Last week, it was reported that Shailene Woodley was in negotiations for the coveted role of Mary Jane Watson in The Amazing Spider-Man 2. This news was confirmed earlier today, as was the actress' likely involvement in Spidey 3.

[Lock Jaw]

I never did see The Amazing Spider-Man. There seems to be an early torrent out. Downloading now. Will let you know my very important thoughts.

[Lock Jaw]

It was "ok". Nothing great. Spider-Man and Spider-Man 2 are definitely better.

[Schlomey]

Woodley is a despicable actress. Not happy news.

[Skippord]

I liked The Amazing Spider-Man way better than any of the other ones

[DaveBrawl]

I liked The Amazing Spider-Man way better than any of the other ones

Same here.

[Skippord]

this is why we're best friends

[Nowhere Man]

I was quite a fan of Amazing Spider-Man. The actors are way better, Emma's Gwen is such a better love interest than Dunst's MJ, and Spidey actually makes quips while fighting. What's not to love?

[McLegend]

I prefer the Toby Tobey Maguire movies. Excpet for Spider-Man 3.

It was quite good though.

[Kalyx triaD]

Amazing wasn't quite as fun, but it captured the modern comics better.

[Kalyx triaD]

With the Young Justice episode posted a while back I was inspired by that and the posting of the Little League comics to maybe begin posting embeds of entire episodes of Marvel/DC 'toons from a very reliable site I've been using for a while now. How would you gentlemen feel about evolving the comic threads to be deposits of the latest cartoons and even live-action shows (Arrow, etc) when uploads are found?

[Crossrine]

So I just got a Kindle Touch as a gift from my boss, does anyone know of any way for me to put comics on this thing? Sorry for cutting off any ongoing conversations, just didn't feel like making a thread


p.s. tried the cbr to zip file image blah blah blah thing didn't work.

[Blitz]

Is it a Kindle Fire? Regular Kindles can only read ebook files. Don't think you can put comics on them.

[Crossrine]

Nah its a regular kindle i guess...says it could read pdfs but I guess id have to pinch and zoom or some shit on each fucking panel which sounds awful blahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh1stworldproblemssfvgt4rwes

[Blitz]

Yeah PDF reading is no fun on this things.

[Reavant]

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/38862/2644372-deadpool_4_cover_super.jpg

[The Destroyer]

I think I heard Kindles now have some kind of comic support, but I have no idea how they work. Probably better sticking to books though, can't imagine reading a comic on a Kindle is much fun.

[Kalyx triaD]

Ming-Na Wen, formerly from ER and Stargate Universe, will play a "soulful" and "damaged" pilot named Melinda May in Joss Whedon's new S.H.I.E.L.D. TV show. Melinda May is described as "an ace pilot, a weapons expert and a soldier who can - and has - gone beyond the call of duty." And apparently she's the character who was originally named Special Agent Althea Rice, aka the Cavalry, in the first casting breakdown. Also, judging from some of the reports out there, it sounds like the late Agent Coulson (Clark Gregg) might only be in the show's pilot, not an ongoing character.