Marvel Universe Thread

[Kalyx triaD]

Kevin Feige had a recent interview about crossovers and had a very different tone about Sony's Spidey franchise in particular, whereas the usual answer was 'no chance in Hell'. I found his language telling.

Once upon a time something like Avengers was wish stuff, and a billion dollars later here we are. I think somebody's looking to make a deal. I also think it would be a less risky, more flexible deal between the rebooted Spider-Man and the Avengers.

This is just my speculation and I just told my roommate this; something big is going down between Sony and Marvel/Disney. And if Fox is looking to get the jump, perhaps something will happen there as well (and it would only include Hugh Jackman).

They have to know that the only thing that could match Avenger's epic concept is adding Spider-Man or Wolverine to the mix, characters currently in their respective studios. But with all that money and hype on the line, pride will be laid aside.

Spider-Man or Wolverine will be a part of the Avengers franchise by the end of Phase Two. That is what I'm thinking.

[alvarado52]

They have to be open to it. The real question is how much Marvel wants those IP's back. At first, it was strongly considered 'b-list' characters Marvel had on their hands (in terms of popularity and marketability), but now its pretty obvious they have the strongest lineup.

Why would Marvel want to share revenue with other 'competitors'? The only way i see them wanting to hear any sort of deal would be to negotiate getting their characters back home.

[Kalyx triaD]

Well Sony and Fox aren't bombing their movies. Raimi's Spider-Mans and Fox's X-Men movies were all hits (some relatively). So they won't let them go easily. A mutual deal for cameos is more realistic right now. After Avengers, Marvel holds the cards. They would be doing Sony or Fox a favor by adding their marquee characters. Much less to gain having Nick Fury appear in Spider-Man or The Wolverine.

[Rammsteinmad]

Enough talk of this Spider-Man/Wolverine/Avengers crossover. I don't think my heart can take it.

[Kalyx triaD]

http://i.newsarama.com/images/AvengersVSXMen_8_CoverVariantKubert.jpg

[Kalyx triaD]

Ultimate Iron Man's New Armor:

http://i.newsarama.com/images/NewIronmancutout_02.jpg

[Nowhere Man]

Cyclops's costume looks like he hopped over to DC for a day and raided Nightwing's wardrobe.

[The Destroyer]

What the fuck is Cyclops wearing? That looks awful.

[The Destroyer]

In fact, seeing a Phoenix theme in those costumes in general. I'm sure it's plot related, so best not to explain it I guess. Still running way behind on Marvel.

[Nowhere Man]

Yeah, apart from the logo, they all seem to be on fire. I guess they got a hold of the Phoenix Force.

[Kalyx triaD]

The Phoenix was split by Iron Man and it possessed the X-Men.

[Kalyx triaD]

http://i.newsarama.com/images/ThisIsWAR_CaptAmerica_02.jpghttp://i.newsarama.com/images/ThisIsWAR_Thor_02.jpghttp://i.newsarama.com/images/warwolverine_02.jpg

[Fignuts]

Interesting.

Hopefully it's not as shit as the last couple events.

[RP]

Any details?

[Kalyx triaD]

To be at Comic-Con.

[Kalyx triaD]

http://i.newsarama.com/images/ThisIsWAR_IronMan_02.jpg

[Lock Jaw]

I wonder if this war will be very civil.

[DaveBrawl]

So has anyone been keeping up with the new Age of Apocalypse series? I just bought the first few issues on Midtown Comics site while I was getting my other stuff. I remember really liking the old series, but I never see anyone mention the new one good or bad.

[dronepool]

Another event? Damnit. I hope it's just the 'after effects" like Dark Reign and not another damn mini series.

[Kalyx triaD]

What else would it be?

[The Destroyer]

Can't see them diving into another crossover so soon after AvX.

In other Marvel news, Bendis is going to be leaving the Avengers titles (and apparently switching to X-Men, somehow) and Ed Brubaker is finally leaving Captain America.

[Kalyx triaD]

- Iron Man 3 is currently shooting with a release date of May 3, 2013.
- Thor 2 is the next project gearing up for a shoot and has a release date of November 8, 2013.
- Captain America 2 is planned for April 14, 2014.
- Guardians of the Galaxy (sometime in 2014) will lead directly into Avengers 2 in 2015.

Somewhere in there, the relatively smaller production Ant-Man should sneak its way in. There's a rumor that Iron Man 3's tag is essentially Ant-Man cinematic introduction. And considering who may be the villain for Avengers 2, Guardians leading into it makes sense. The backdrop for Phase 1 was patriotism, Phase two is looking more sci-fi and cosmic.

Now let's see if Sony wants in on this. Amazing Spider-Man is already slated for 2014.

[Kalyx triaD]

And by the way, it's The Punisher fucking the heroes up in those This is War teasers. The event is Punisher: Warzone.

[Reavant]

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/md-DQheHBcM" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[Reavant]

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/PJNS-j_gFUA" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[Reavant]

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/18863/2436806-punisherwarzoneteaser_super.jpeg

[RP]

That looks awesome.

[Fignuts]

Fuck yeah, that's fantastic.

[Fignuts]

Can't see them diving into another crossover so soon after AvX.

In other Marvel news, Bendis is going to be leaving the Avengers titles (and apparently switching to X-Men, somehow) and Ed Brubaker is finally leaving Captain America.

That sucks. Captain America and all the Avengers titles have been absolutely on point for years now.

[RP]

If I want to start reading the punisher series, where do I start and is there books? Or do I have to find all the comics? I don't want to read off the computer.

[The Destroyer]

Punisher stuff is a bit all over the place, really. I've never been a huge fan of his stuff set in the mainstream Marvel universe, although Garth Ennis' "Welcome Back, Frank" series is excellent. The Marvel MAX series is great too, although it's set a lot more in the "real" world with a Frank Castle who must be pushing 70,

Not been reading the recent Greg Rucka series and the whole Frankencastle stuff in the previous series just seemed a bit ludicrous, so I can't really say where's a good place to catch up with his recent stuff. Was never a massive fan of the War Journal series that Matt Fraction did either.

Should be able to catch most of it in trade form though.

[Skippord]

lol can't wait to see Rocket Raccoon in movie form.

[Lock Jaw]

I can't imagine a Guardians of the Galaxy film doing well, unless they really really stress on Avengers connections. Or have seeds for Guardians of the Galaxy planted in Iron Man 3/Cap 2/Thor 2.

[Shadow]

Knowing Marvel Studios the way I do now...probably will be planting seeds.

Glorious seeds of movie magic.

[Kalyx triaD]

I can't wait. I'm unfamiliar with the Guardians outside of that episode of EMH and 'Coon in UMvC3.

[Fignuts]

Never read the old Gaurdians books, but the current run following Annihilation has been fantastic.

[dronepool]

Can't really get into 'Guardians', but I'll just wait and see and hope it's good.

[Skippord]

I honestly know nothing about Guardians Of The Galaxy with the exception of that one episode of The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes

and that the raccoon is adorbz

[The Destroyer]

Never read the old Gaurdians books, but the current run following Annihilation has been fantastic.
Shouldn't be an issue, that's the incarnation of the team the movie's seemingly going to focus on.

I'm a bit concerned the film will be a bit of a flop, since there's not any "name" characters in the team. But who knows, maybe it'll be a pleasant surprise.

[Rammsteinmad]

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/18863/2436806-punisherwarzoneteaser_super.jpeg

Awesome picture. Kinda reminds me of this, though...

http://www.longbox.net/catalog/ThePunisherKillsTheMarvelUniverse-0001.jpg

[Funky Fly]

Note the 90s era outfits on everyone.

[The Destroyer]

I have that in the ridiculous Garth Ennis' Punisher hardcover I decided to treat myself to a few years ago. Not read it in a while though.

[YOUR Hero]

what does the punisher have as abiities :?:

[Kalyx triaD]

Guns.

[XL]

Never heard of Guardians of the Galaxy. Somebody give me the lowdown. Who are they? What is their relation to the Avengers/Marvel Universe?

[Kalyx triaD]

They are essentially Avengers in space.

[Skippord]

AND THERE IS AN ADORABLE RACCOON WHO KNOWS MILITARY STUFF

[Lock Jaw]

Yeah, basically they are a team of heroes who operate on the galactic level.

I did highly enjoy the comic series that followed Annihilation Conquest.

[McLegend]

Did anyone just see Avengers: Earth Mightiest Heroes?

I love Captain America

[Kalyx triaD]

Name of Eps? I most likely seen it.

[Optimus Bone 69]

Met Jim Starlin at gasgow comic con today classy guy did sketches and signings for free while an indie scottish guy charged £10-£15 quid, got to him just before he went to a panel
long story short he spelled my name wrong didnt have time to do another so he signed and gave me an amazing thanos sketch he was selling for £95 what a fecking result
Also hadt some interesting things to say about spiderman movie rights
said that each comic ie Amazing & Spectacular and the rest were sold seperately and that James Cameron still owns one!!!
also said he really really didnt care for the new movie
great guy think he was surprised by how terrible Glasgow comic con was

[Kalyx triaD]

The Spidey rights thing is very interesting indeed, particularly in wake of my recent speculations.

[McLegend]

Name of Eps? I most likely seen it.

The newest episode tonight...

Prisoner of War

[Optimus Bone 69]

If correct it is he said an incarnation of Spidey is legally possible in an FF movie or the avengers but who knows if its true

[Kalyx triaD]

The newest episode tonight...

Prisoner of War

I'm a few episodes ahead because of this stream site.

But that is a great episode.

[Kalyx triaD]

Marvel Comics working on a Thanos origin story.

[Fignuts]

Very Jealous of Optimus right now, Thanos being my favorite villain ever.


Don't particularly care for the fact that they are making a Thanos origin story. Feel like we already know just enough to understand his motivation, yet still keep that mystique about him.

[Fignuts]

Same feelings toward Rise of Apocalypse really.

[dronepool]

EMH: New Avengers was awesome. Fuck everyone involved in canceling this show.

[Kalyx triaD]

>> Marvel.

Still hate Spidey's Ultimate voice but Grimm and Wolverine were cool. FASTBALL SPECIAL.

[Fignuts]

Have had no interest in DC comics since new 52, but animated stuff is fantastic. Exact opposite with marvel.

[Krimzon7]

New Iron Man?

http://www.google.com/url?source=imglanding&ct=img&q=http://images.wikia.com/marveldatabase/images/1/12/NewIronMan.JPG&sa=X&ei=RkfzT_aJDIeg8gSGu_XNCQ&ved=0CAkQ8wc4lwE&usg=AFQjCNH9-C5J1E5RRA2FEWwfLJ7-Eq6OAQ

[DaveBrawl]

ITron Man

[Lock Jaw]

http://www.comicbookresources.com/assets/images/articles/1341336468.jpg

[The Destroyer]

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=39525

Link to the article to go along with that picture.

Only Hickman's Avengers doesn't make me go "hmm, sounds bad". And not liking some of the designs in that image.

[Kalyx triaD]

Concept art from Iron Man 3 shows new armor pieces:

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17rpevag8x6d8jpg/original.jpg

[Fignuts]

Looks closer in style to the bleeding edge armor, than the extremis.

[Nowhere Man]

True, but the Extremis armor looked pretty close to the movie armor already, so I guess they needed to pick one that looks significantly different.

[Fignuts]

I do love the helmet for extremis though. Hope they at least keep that.

[dronepool]

http://www.comicbookresources.com/assets/images/articles/1341336468.jpg

I have 6 monthly books, 3 DC and 3 Marvel and 2 mini's (Avengers vs X-Men and Spider-Men) and that just makes me want to stick with what I have, I rather just read about it from boards or wiki if it's that big.

[Kalyx triaD]

"Item 47", the Marvel short-film to be added to Avengers DVDs:

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17rptsmj6e9jsjpg/original.jpg

A down-on-their-luck couple, Claire (Lizzy Caplan) and Benny (Jesse Bradford), get their hands on it and "proceed to make some incredibly bad decisions." Meanwhile, two S.H.I.E.L.D. agents try to track the gun down: one played by Maximiliano Hernández, who appeared in The Avengers, and a new one played by Titus Welliver, aka the Smoke Monster from Lost.

[RP]

"Item 47", the Marvel short-film to be added to Avengers DVDs:

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17rptsmj6e9jsjpg/original.jpg

Smoke monster dies


This looks cool.

[Shadow]

What gun is that?

One of the Not-Skrull guns?

[Kalyx triaD]

Yes, a Chitauri weapon.

[Shadow]

Nice.

Also the end of AvX has been leaked. Jean Grey does come back...but it's a version of her from the past.

*headesks*

[Kalyx triaD]

You guys could really give a fuck about spoilers, huh? Not that I personally care for comic spoilers, but somebody around here probably did.

[Blitz]

Shadow is just retarded. You should know that by now.

[Tom Guycott]

Don't particularly care for the fact that they are making a Thanos origin story. Feel like we already know just enough to understand his motivation, yet still keep that mystique about him.

They already opened Pandora's Box with making an origin story for the biggest mystery of all in Wolverine. If Marvel pulled the trigger on that, anything after that has to be considered fair game.

I will say that it's funny how the reasoning behind said origin story (paraphrased: "so Hollywood won't mess it up") was 100% negated with the movie.

[RP]

http://media.zenfs.com/en/blogs/sptusfantasyexperts/Anthony-Rizzo-finally-gets-the-call-Getty-Images.jpg

[Fignuts]

They already opened Pandora's Box with making an origin story for the biggest mystery of all in Wolverine. If Marvel pulled the trigger on that, anything after that has to be considered fair game.

I will say that it's funny how the reasoning behind said origin story (paraphrased: "so Hollywood won't mess it up") was 100% negated with the movie.

Yeah, but wolverine is arguably the most popular marvel character there is, outside of spider-man. And the whole memory wipe thing was pushed so hard that eventually they really HAD to do an origin story.

Not the case with Thanos.

[The Destroyer]

Nice.

Also the end of AvX has been leaked. Jean Grey does come back...but it's a version of her from the past.

*headesks*
Not necessarily part of AvX, as it's not been leaked. It's been announced my Marvel themselves as part of a post-AvX series and was mentioned in that article I linked. Can't see them ruining the ending of their own event somehow.

[Kalyx triaD]

All New X-Men, I think.

[The Destroyer]

That's the one.

[Reavant]

Nice.

Also the end of AvX has been leaked. Jean Grey does come back...but it's a version of her from the past.

*headesks*

they leak doesnt confirm anything.... they havnt said if its a flashback or what

[Kalyx triaD]

It's definitely Jean Grey, she's definitely from the past. She'll be with the other original X-Men.

[Blitz]

Awesome medieval Avengers art, spoiler tagged for shit connections.


http://www.geekologie.com/2012/07/05/fantasy-avengers-2.jpg
http://www.geekologie.com/2012/07/05/fantasy-avengers-3.jpg
http://www.geekologie.com/2012/07/05/fantasy-avengers-4.jpg
http://www.geekologie.com/2012/07/05/fantasy-avengers-5.jpg
http://www.geekologie.com/2012/07/05/fantasy-avengers-6.jpg
http://www.geekologie.com/2012/07/05/fantasy-avengers-7.jpg
http://www.geekologie.com/2012/07/05/fantasy-avengers-8.jpg
http://www.geekologie.com/2012/07/05/fantasy-avengers-9.jpg

[Kalyx triaD]

You'd think Thor and Loki would look the same. Also World War Hulk. But they all look cool. Love the 'Iron Mage' concept.

[RP]

You guys could really give a fuck about spoilers, huh? Not that I personally care for comic spoilers, but somebody around here probably did.

I didn't spoil shit this time. I think.

[Kalyx triaD]

Looking back I don't think you did. Sorry.

[RP]

R.i.p. Coulson. I miss you bro!

[Kalyx triaD]

Nick Fury used that death to great advantage, he's a man with Vision.

[RP]

Heyo!!!

[Krimzon7]

http://crazymoviepeople.com/blog2/2012/05/20/is-agent-coulson-of-the-avengers-really-the-vision/

Talk about the way back machine

[LuigiD]

Awesome medieval Avengers art, spoiler tagged for shit connections.


http://www.geekologie.com/2012/07/05/fantasy-avengers-2.jpg
http://www.geekologie.com/2012/07/05/fantasy-avengers-3.jpg
http://www.geekologie.com/2012/07/05/fantasy-avengers-4.jpg
http://www.geekologie.com/2012/07/05/fantasy-avengers-5.jpg
http://www.geekologie.com/2012/07/05/fantasy-avengers-6.jpg
http://www.geekologie.com/2012/07/05/fantasy-avengers-7.jpg
http://www.geekologie.com/2012/07/05/fantasy-avengers-8.jpg
http://www.geekologie.com/2012/07/05/fantasy-avengers-9.jpg

http://www.comics101.com/comics101//news/Comics%20101/50/avengers2.jpg

[dronepool]

Here's my more in depth thoughts on why I'm not really hyped about Marvel Now:

I was already trying to have a smaller pull list because of my deflation in enthusiasm and interest in most books, I can actually wait longer to pick up my monthlies without being on the edge now. I mean sure, I'm curious to what happens in Marvel and how characters I know evolve but it doesn't feel like I 'must' stay on top of things every week.

So this news of 'relaunched' books doesn't get my that excited, sure I'm enjoying Avengers vs X-Men (I still need to pick up issue 6 and 7) but I have no desire to go for the long haul on any of the new books so far unless the ones I already get end up getting relaunched (Uncanny X-Force, Deadpool, Amazing Spider-Man) If anything, I can just pick up a few trades at half price 2 or 3 months later and if I like it, keep buying the volumes over singles.

[LoDownM]

Really hate the Scarlet Spider costume from the "reboot" I guess. Only thing good about it are the eyes on the mask.

[RP]

Just downloaded a couple apps. Marvel CoMics and Comixology. They look the same except one is Marvel only. Anyone using these?

[The Destroyer]

Don't bother with the Marvel app unless you just want to filter out the clutter of non-Marvel stuff, it's basically Comixology but only with Marvel titles. Also watch out if you're using it on a Kindle Fire, as apparently you can't buy any DC titles through that version of the app for some reason.

I like it as an app, big fan of how it converts comics to fit on my phone's screen and I really like the way it flows.

What I do hate them for is constantly putting great titles on sale. Like right now they've got a big Walking Dead sale on with the first 99 issues for $0.99 each (or £0.69 over here), last week they had a load of cheap recent Amazing Spider-Man and Ultimate Spider-Man titles on sale to tie in with the new film. It's getting to be constant "take my money!", which combined with the limited storage space on my phone is going to get annoying fast.

http://www.comixology.com/comics-sale keep an eye out there for new offers, generally new stuff every day or two

[RP]

The first Amazing Spiderman is free. Might take a gander. The search option is failing for some reason. Won't look up what I search.

[The Destroyer]

Strange. You can also find/buy stuff through their website and sync it your phone/tablet.

[Kalyx triaD]

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17sj2x5ibfdv3jpg/original.jpg

[Kalyx triaD]

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s720x720/552635_10151017404312290_94092305_n.jpg

IM3 at the Con.

[Shadow]

WANT ALL OF THOSE!

[Kalyx triaD]

Aside from the Item 47 screening, it seems Marvel Studios is going to announce something big today. Or rather... something very small...

[Skippord]

YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[Kalyx triaD]

Mark 8:

http://x.annihil.us/u/prod/marvel/i/mg/5/30/5001a0d8c03f3.jpg

http://x.annihil.us/u/prod/marvel/i/mg/2/30/5001a0d8d3242.jpg

[Nowhere Man]

That is way too much gold on that armor.

[Kalyx triaD]

If they were gonna do that to the body, they should have inverted the helmet; red face gold head.

[Lock Jaw]

Yeah, kinda ugly. Not enough red. Hopefully just an "alt" and not what he wears for the majority of the film.

[Fignuts]

I like it.

[Tom Guycott]

Awesome medieval Avengers art, spoiler tagged for shit connections.


http://www.geekologie.com/2012/07/05/fantasy-avengers-8.jpg
Red Warrior needs food badly!

http://www.geekologie.com/2012/07/05/fantasy-avengers-4.jpg
Blue Elf shot the food!

http://www.geekologie.com/2012/07/05/fantasy-avengers-5.jpg
Red Valkyrie, your life force is running out!

http://www.geekologie.com/2012/07/05/fantasy-avengers-6.jpg
Red Wizard shot the potion!

http://www.geekologie.com/2012/07/05/fantasy-avengers-7.jpg
BLACK MUTHAFUCKIN' WIZARD NEEDS MUTHAFUCKIN' FOOD!!!

http://www.geekologie.com/2012/07/05/fantasy-avengers-3.jpg
Green Elf is doing it wrong!




(comments in the spoiler tag for the same reason the pics were spoiler'd in the first place)

[Droford]

Aside from the Item 47 screening, it seems Marvel Studios is going to announce something big today. Or rather... something very small...
scraping the bottom of the comic book barrel i see

[Lock Jaw]

Marvel Comic-Con Movie News (Source Newsarama):

The long-rumored Guardians of the Galaxy movie is official, and was announced Saturday evening at the Marvel Studios panel during Comic-Con in San Diego. The film is scheduled for release on Aug. 1, 2014.

http://i.newsarama.com/images/gotgconcept_02.jpg

Additionally, the full titles for the Captain America and Thor sequels were announced:

http://i.newsarama.com/images/thor2logo_02.jpg

http://i.newsarama.com/images/cap2logo_02.jpg

Test Footage from Ant-Man was shown, but no release date set.

http://i.newsarama.com/images/antmanlogo_02.jpg

On the Iron Man 3 front, it has been confirmed that Ben Kingsley is indeed The Mandarin.

[Lock Jaw]

Pumped for the Winter Soldier arc on the big screen.

[Fignuts]

Mad psyched for winter soldier, and for Thor 2. I said before, that I think that Hela would be my villain of choice for Thor 2, and going off that title, I'd say chances are good.

[Fignuts]

Jessica Biel will apparently be playing Viper in the new Wolverine flick.

She's got a great look for it, but I don't recall her ever being in a role as an antagonist. Hope she can pull it off, cause Viper is one of my favorite wolvie villains.

[Kalyx triaD]

That would make two Blade alumni getting into a Wolverine movie. Close nit group here.

[Kalyx triaD]

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/ri1CItlMHfo" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[Blitz]

Anthony Mackie rumoured to be in talks for the part of The Falcon in Cap 2.

[Kalyx triaD]

Does anybody else find it strange that Biel is going to be Madame Viper in The Wolverine, a chick with ties to Hydra?

[Lock Jaw]

Nah. They don't have to mention Hydra at all.

[Kalyx triaD]

It would be sort of an elephant in the room, no?

[Kalyx triaD]

http://i.newsarama.com/images/MinimumCarnage_Teaser.jpg

Venom and Scarlet Spider team up to take on Carnage.

[Fignuts]

Hate that they redeemed the scarlet witch. I thought she would of made a great, long lasting addition to the avengers rogues gallery.


Love marvel, but sometimes they don't have the balls to stay the course. *cough* Xorn *cough*

[Lock Jaw]

It would be sort of an elephant in the room, no?

Nope. Most of the general public will have no clue who Madame Viper is. So they won't be sitting around thinking it is weird that they don't mention Hydra.

[Reavant]

Theres a chance that they do mention hydra though... how cool would that be? remember if they had the time, they were going to put oscorp in the avengers

[Lock Jaw]

Says who

[Kalyx triaD]

Marvel/Disney admitted that they were in fact going to put the Oscorp building from Amazing Spider-Man in the New York during the Avengers final battle. I posted about it a few pages ago.

[Kalyx triaD]

I mean, I understand keeping your expectations low and taking things with a grain of salt, but this isn't Lady Deathstrike remixed as a female Wolverine - this is a character explicitly connected to an organization that played a major role in Marvel's Phase One. There should really be more speculation than what I've seen since this was announced.

In fact, people just sorta glossed over news of a direct fucking link between Sony's new Spidey-verse and Marvel/Disney's Movie-verse. And now a known Hydra villain is going to play a part in The Wolverine - a story very much based on the Japan arc, making Viper a delayed even off-tone inclusion.

Why was that?

[The Destroyer]

Jessica Biel won't be playing her anyway, negotiations have fallen through.

[Kalyx triaD]

Oh fuck. Well, my speculation remains if the character is recast.

[Fignuts]

I mean, I understand keeping your expectations low and taking things with a grain of salt, but this isn't Lady Deathstrike remixed as a female Wolverine - this is a character explicitly connected to an organization that played a major role in Marvel's Phase One. There should really be more speculation than what I've seen since this was announced.

In fact, people just sorta glossed over news of a direct fucking link between Sony's new Spidey-verse and Marvel/Disney's Movie-verse. And now a known Hydra villain is going to play a part in The Wolverine - a story very much based on the Japan arc, making Viper a delayed even off-tone inclusion.

Why was that?


Because while Viper has connections to hydra, she is more of a stand alone villain than say Baron Von Strucker. You can easily do Viper without even mentioning Hydra.

[Kalyx triaD]

Oh okay.

[Sixx]

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17sj2x5ibfdv3jpg/original.jpg

Ok, so the Avengers sequel is gonna be about a shoe?

[Lock Jaw]

It is an alien shoe that makes the wearer run superfast. They are using it to introduce Quicksilver into the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Even though he should be owned by Fox with their X-Men rights, they somehow found a loophole to use the character because of his Avengers connections. Obviously his origin has been changed.

[Kalyx triaD]

Also Batman is in it.

[Krimzon7]

And Spawn.

[Shadow]

And also Ash.

[Lock Jaw]

Stop trying to confuse the poor guy.

[YOUR Hero]

What about Chuck Norris?

[dronepool]

Chuck Norris is an asshole.

[Kalyx triaD]

http://comicbook.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/iron-man-3-concept-art.jpg

[Nowhere Man]

Looks a little better than in the Comic-Con display. Still too much gold, though.

[Kalyx triaD]

Unofficial yet epic banner:

http://www.comingsoon.net/nextraimages/g83Uv.jpg

[Fignuts]

no pic

[Kalyx triaD]

Dammit, Superherohype. I thought that was adjusted.

[Sixx]

Does anyone know if there's a good version of Avengers to download already?

[Kalyx triaD]

DVD rips should be out in a few months.

[Lock Jaw]

Scheduled for release on "Home Video" on September 25, so there probably won't be anything until closer to that time.

[Sixx]

Damn, you could usually find whatever versions other than cam like a month after the movie premiere.

Waiting till Sept. 25 is gonna suck.

[Lock Jaw]

Sometimes you will find an R5 leaked version way earlier than the DVD release, but I have not seen any from Avengers.

[Sixx]

I'd appreciate if you let me know when you do.

[Lock Jaw]

You could have just seen it in the theaters.

[Schlomey]

Anyone have thoughts on the new Marvel NOW initiative beginning in October? If you don't know what it is go to Marvel.com they have a lovely front page story with interview.

[Inadequacy]

As long as Dan Slott stays on Spiderman I don't really care what happens

[dronepool]

Anyone have thoughts on the new Marvel NOW initiative beginning in October? If you don't know what it is go to Marvel.com they have a lovely front page story with interview.

Here's my more in depth thoughts on why I'm not really hyped about Marvel Now:

I was already trying to have a smaller pull list because of my deflation in enthusiasm and interest in most books, I can actually wait longer to pick up my monthlies without being on the edge now. I mean sure, I'm curious to what happens in Marvel and how characters I know evolve but it doesn't feel like I 'must' stay on top of things every week.

So this news of 'relaunched' books doesn't get my that excited, sure I'm enjoying Avengers vs X-Men (I still need to pick up issue 6 and 7) but I have no desire to go for the long haul on any of the new books so far unless the ones I already get end up getting relaunched (Uncanny X-Force, Deadpool, Amazing Spider-Man) If anything, I can just pick up a few trades at half price 2 or 3 months later and if I like it, keep buying the volumes over singles.

[Sixx]

You could have just seen it in the theaters.

SICK BURN

Polish prisons suck, as they didn't think of having theaters.

What kind of treatment is that?

[loopydate]

It's still in some theaters.

[Sixx]

Oh.

[Lock Jaw]

SICK BURN

Polish prisons suck, as they didn't think of having theaters.

What kind of treatment is that?

I'd say cruel and unusual!

[Schlomey]

Picked up The Avengers: the initiative books 1 thru like 14 at my public library. So far so good!

[Kalyx triaD]

Get used to this guy:

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17uqcjuk0351jjpg/original.jpg

...And the fact that Christopher Eccleston (GI Joe: Rise of Cobra's Destro) will portray him.

Also the sequel to First Class will indeed be based on Days of Future Past. I suspect they will use to this to fully reboot/remix/combine their two main X-Men movie timelines. Bryan Singer also mentioned diverging Fox's X-franchise into it's own Cinematic Universe like the Avengers movie-verse. While this pretty much shuts down any chance of seeing Wolverine in the Avengers, it does mean there could be movies highlighting our favorite mutants (a proper Gambit and Deadpool for sure).

[Kalyx triaD]

Just a Venom Themed Photoshoot:

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[DaveBrawl]

Finally a reason to care about Venom.

[Sixx]

What's the point of this session?

Kalyx probably has a boner for Venom, cause he's black.

[Kalyx triaD]

Venom's a white jock now. I like black jocks.

[Sixx]

I meant the symbiote.

[Kalyx triaD]

There some connection between black people and alien slime I don't know about?

[Sixx]

Both are black.

And both love watermelon.

[Kalyx triaD]

Ah the racist thing. I missed that. Very good show.

[Sixx]

Were you honestly expecting something intelligent and shit?

[Kalyx triaD]

No, I knew it was a color thing from the start. I need as much documented stupidity from you for me to make a decision. Keep it up.

[Sixx]

What decision might that be?

[Schlomey]

Is avengers vs x men worth starting?

[Kalyx triaD]

Is avengers vs x men worth starting?

I guess. Seems like there's better events coming out.

[Fignuts]

Malekith?

You've got Hela, Enchantress, Executioner, Ulik, Kurse, Ego, Kamilla, Fenris, and Radioactive man, and they choose Malekith?

Fucking hate Malekith.

[Kalyx triaD]

We could still see Enchantress and Hela, I think.

[Schlomey]

Bummed. My comic book store had ZERO copies of Avengers vs X-Men 1-4. Looks like I'm stuck reading digital copies...which I am not a fan of!

[Sixx]

Bummed. My comic book store had ZERO copies of Avengers vs X-Men 1-4. Looks like I'm stuck reading digital copies...which I am not a fan of!

Feel my pain.

I'm stuck reading digital copies cause like none of the comic books I want to read come out here.

[Schlomey]

is Hawkeye #1 out yet?

And Sixx I'm sorry to hear that. We are just lucky to have a comic book shop but they are the typical "know it all nerds" who pick on people who don't know everything about everything...Really considering going straight to the source and buying things online and having them shipped to my house. Seriously felt like a jackoff last night when I went in there asking for Avengers vs XMen 1...Like I should have already read it and even worse that I should have known it "flew off the shelves".

[Sixx]

Oh, we have comic book shops, too.

It's just shit.

I don't think there are even any X-Men, Spiderman etc. comic books still coming out. We used to have one monthly Spiderman book, one monthly X-Men book, one monthly Punisher book and one monthly Mega Marvel as they called it, which was just a random comic, that could be anything. Still, I had all of them.

[Schlomey]

Are there comic book companies producing original material in your country? America has Marvel and DC as the "big 2" does your country have their "big 2" ?

[Sixx]

I don't think so.

In fact, I can't think of any modern Polish comic books.

We used to have some retarded children's books like Kajko i Kokosz (look it up) and one about a captain of the commie forces. I thought Thorgal was Polish, but it turns out it's not.

[Schlomey]

Proud to be an Amerrrican :(

[parkmania]

Get used to this guy:

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17uqcjuk0351jjpg/original.jpg

...And the fact that Christopher Eccleston (GI Joe: Rise of Cobra's Destro) will portray him.

Looks like Eclipso (from DC) with long hair.

Not impressed.

[Kalyx triaD]

His look can be intimidating with the right artist, like every character ever.

My knowledge of him goes as far as that one episode of Earth's Mightiest Heroes, being that I don't read comics anymore (at least not often). I enjoyed him in that show and found him to be a legit threat. I wonder if he'll start out 'accursed' or will the movie be his origin.

[Lock Jaw]

Never heard of the dude. Explain his "gimmick" to me. Too lazy to wiki.

[dronepool]

Looks like Eclipso (from DC) with long hair.

Not impressed.

Yeah, that's who I thought of. I forgot him. Who's villain is he?

[Kalyx triaD]

So I gave myself a Phase One marathon this week, and noticed some things:

- In both his movie and Avengers, Cap jumped out of a plane with somebody advising him not to.
- Thor and Loki both tried to boast about themselves before getting humbly cut off. Welcome to Earth, Sons of Odin.
- Agent Coulson, er... Phil, may have been the main reason behind Cap's modern suit being so close to his USO garb. Phil was a Cap fanboy, collecting his cards and most likely any other merch he could find. This meant Phil only ever seen Cap in his USO suit. He most likely seen his old movies as well, which had Cap in the USO suit. All of Cap's actual missions were secret and nobody outside of the military seen his real attire. So when Phil gave his input for the modern suit, of course it would resemble the costume Phil grew up seeing. His lines with Steve gave allusion that he still believed in the old fashioned scheme. Cap's modern suit is more or less a SHIELD spy-suit with the USO design.
- With Hawkeye at the site of Mjolnir, and placed at the facility where the Tessaract was housed, it seems Clint is the go-to guy for especially weird shit. Interesting.
- I would very much like to see Black Widow vs Catwoman. Then they could make out on the Batpod. They'd fit.
- When Hawkeye was perched and ready to take out Thor, he pressured Coulson to make a call and joked that he was starting to root for Thor. Probably wasn't a joke, since we know he would make a different call. I don't think he would have shot Thor at all, or at least wouldn't kill him.

[Kalyx triaD]

Logan Looking Grizzly:

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17uy888ntejusjpg/original.jpg

[Rammsteinmad]

Sweet.

Hugh Jackson is getting old. :(

[Kalyx triaD]

Which works for the character either way.

[Rammsteinmad]

SWEET!

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[Schlomey]

OMG HOly Freaking Balls that looks awesome. SUCK IT WOLVERINE!

[Kalyx triaD]

Why are people making this game out to be an answer to Wolverine? What... like... the Origins Wolverine game?

I don't get it. It's like if Arkham Asylum released its trailer and people would be like, "Take that Superman/Green Lantern/whoever."

Can somebody explain this to me? I asked in the VG forum and was unexpectedly ignored. Help me out, Schlomey.

[Schlomey]

I have no idea the answer you seek. I said "suck it Wolverine" because Deadpool says that at the end of the trailer.

[Kalyx triaD]

It just seemed people really picked up that and I wanted to know if people were seeing this as some thing against Wolverine.

I'll drop it then.

[Schlomey]

It could have been in reference to how the Origins movie portrayed the Deadpool character and maybe a slight against the creators for "fucking it up" (according to fanboys). Who knows...

[Kalyx triaD]

That's a broad stroke, man.

[Kalyx triaD]

It seems in a bid to keep Daredevil in Fox's house by extending the deadline to make a movie, Fox may have let the Silver Surfer (and by extension Galactus) head back to Marvel Studios.

In the past a character returning to Marvel would have meant not seeing a movie for a while longer, but since Marvel has gotten their shit together I'm kind of rooting for Fox (and Sony) to somehow fuck up, as this is the only thing keeping the Marvel Cinematic Universe from being as fleshed out as the 616.

I love hearing that Silver Surfer and his boss could return at a perfect time when Marvel Studios' Phase Two seems to be going galactic. I do still have my belief that Sony and Marvel are currently kissy face about the idea of Amazing Spider-Man elements appearing in the MCU (a full cross-over may be too much to ask for).

[Schlomey]

Galactus is my favorite villain. I would swoon for a movie featuring the ACTUAL Galactus.

[Rammsteinmad]

Why are people making this game out to be an answer to Wolverine? What... like... the Origins Wolverine game?

I don't get it. It's like if Arkham Asylum released its trailer and people would be like, "Take that Superman/Green Lantern/whoever."

Can somebody explain this to me? I asked in the VG forum and was unexpectedly ignored. Help me out, Schlomey.

It sounds like you're taking this all a bit too seriously.

Deadpool says at the end of the trailer "suck it, Wolverine". People are most likely picking up on it because it's a cool, unexpected thing that he says, and I guess in some ways it fleshes the game/character out in the Marvel Universe (basically, it's not just DEADPOOL in his own game-universe).

And of course, why wouldn't Deadpool himself say something like that? Him and Wolverine have always had a rivalry going on between them. Wolverine has been the main character of three X-Men movies, received his own solo movie, has had his own video games and even, to a degree, his own cartoon. Deadpool finally has his moment to shine here, and couldn't help but take a shot at Wolverine about it. Fans probably like that small display of continuity in the game.

Relax, man. :wave:

[Kalyx triaD]

Aye.

[Schlomey]

I admit, Hugh Jackman is the perfect Wolverine. i love him in the role and marked out during his small cameo in First Class. However, the catalog of Marvel characters is so vast I wish they would expand past the same characters. Another Wolverine sequel? Why not another origins story or hell even another x Men movie bringing back some forgotten characters....I guess it's too much to ask to be original...just stick with what they know works. Maybe one day someone at fox will grow some balls.

[Rammsteinmad]

Wolverine = $$$

&

Hugh Jackman = $$$

[Rammsteinmad]

So by that logic, Wolverine + Hugh Jackman = €€€

[Schlomey]

Dead pool kills the marvel universe.....what an odd book. Read #1 last night. The artwork is very nice and the story blew by in what seemed like three pages. I guess I'll keep reading these for now....but not like anything will come of it EVER.

[Kalyx triaD]

http://i.newsarama.com/images/marvelnowironman_02.jpg

Nice.

[Schlomey]

when does that launch?

[Kalyx triaD]

This November.

[Schlomey]

Whedon confirmed for avengers 2 and some avengers universe tv show for abc. Sweet!!

[Kalyx triaD]

Fuck yes fuck yes fuck yes.

Now - LET HIM WORK ON GUARDIANS. A space hopping group of outcasts? Whedon for sure.

[Shadow]

Well there is a Guardians of the Galaxy movie that's supposed to tie in with Avengers 2 so....

[Kalyx triaD]

That doesn't guarantee his involvement, though I am all for just letting him oversee macro-arcs of the MCU.

[Kalyx triaD]

...And they're all for it too:

Not only is Whedon doing Avengers 2, he signed a 3yr contract that makes him overseer of the MCU's entire Phase 2 development.

[Schlomey]

Brian Posehn, comedian from the Sarah Silverman Show, is taking the writing lead on the new Deadpool MarvelNOW! series. Interesting news.....

[Inadequacy]

Fuck yeah Joss Whedon

[dronepool]

Meh... even the new Deadpool is a question mark... only for Deadpool I'm getting it, but very weary.... but besides that.. no thank you. Might trade wait Remender and Hickman stuff... if Slott leaves ASM and it isn't Bendis... or somebody who knows Peter, count me out.

Once Morrison is done with Batman and Supes... damn my interest is dropping like flies.

[Inadequacy]

They'd be pretty crazy to take slott off of spiderman

[Schlomey]

Go to Marvel.com for some "huge" announcement at 3pm today.

[Sixx]

Go to Marvel.com for some "huge" announcement at 3pm today.

Where did you get that info from?

[Schlomey]

from Marvels facebook page.

http://marvel.com/news/story/19220/next_big_thing_liveblog

[Sixx]

Join Marvel for a major announcement at 3 PM ET on Tuesday, August 13!

Good luck announcing anything on Tuesday, August 13th.

[Schlomey]

hah yes that was made fun of in the comments section on FB.

[DaveBrawl]

August 13th is a Tuesday next year.

[Schlomey]

13 minutes until our minds are blown. Everyone get their Sea World Splash Zone ponchos on!!!!!

[Schlomey]

Meh I feel let down so far. Simply a new creative team for Journey Into Mystery...a book I have never read.


Just read one: Still Meh.

[The Destroyer]

A creative team I've never even heard of.

[Sixx]

This is shit.

I blame you, Schlomey.

[Kalyx triaD]

Daredevil is going back to Marvel. Fox will focus on Fantastic Four. Also... this means Galactus and Silver Surfer remains at Fox.

[dronepool]

Daredevil is going back to Marvel. Fox will focus on Fantastic Four. Also... this means Galactus and Silver Surfer remains at Fox.

Pretty cool. I hope they actually make a really intense dark movie from this.

[Kalyx triaD]

Did anybody see that director's cut of Daredevil? It's supposed to be 'better'.

[dronepool]

Did anybody see that director's cut of Daredevil? It's supposed to be 'better'.

It's a bit more violent and a bit better, but it still feels like a made for TV movie to me.

[Blitz]

Joe Carnahan put together a reel to show what his vision of Daredevil would've been like. He didn't shoot anything, it's more to convey the general tone he would've went for, but damn, I would see this flick.

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[dronepool]

That's pretty cool, it would be awesome to see Daredevil take place either in the 70's or 90's. He should be an urban myth like Batman.. ect

[Fignuts]

Pretty cool. I hope they actually make a really intense dark movie from this.

I don't.

Last thing Fantastic Four should be, is dark.

[The Destroyer]

I assume he meant Daredevil.

[Fignuts]

Ah, okay then.

Carry on.

[Schlomey]

Finally getting around to starting the Ed Brubaker Captain America first 25. Read the first one and I'm hooked. He is amazing.

[LuigiD]

Joe Carnahan put together a reel to show what his vision of Daredevil would've been like. He didn't shoot anything, it's more to convey the general tone he would've went for, but damn, I would see this flick.

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Reminded me of Taxi Driver.
fucking awesome.

[Fignuts]

Finally getting around to starting the Ed Brubaker Captain America first 25. Read the first one and I'm hooked. He is amazing.

Yeah, I own all of the trades all the way up to the 3rd volume of Death of Captain America.

If you like that, you should read Brubaker's Daredevil, and Immortal Iron Fist. Both are fantastic.

[The Destroyer]

I've still not finished his Daredevil run, or gotten much beyond Death of Captain America. I really need to get caught up.

[Schlomey]

Daredevil was added to the list but I have such a backlog it's insane! Thanks!

[Lock Jaw]

Pretty much anything Brubaker writes is fantastic.

[Schlomey]

That is one thing I am TRYING to figure out. People all the time (on the internet of course) are talking about how a certain writer joining a certain release will kill it/ make it better /etc....I'm trying to figure out who is good...who people hate...why...etc.

[The Destroyer]

I don't think I can honestly say I hate many writers.

Although I'm not big on Chris Claremont, mainly for how he fucked up Exiles.

[Shadow]

So with Daredevil going back to Marvel...that mean we also get Kingpin, Bullseye, and Electra?

[Kalyx triaD]

Yes.

A nice way to know is to see who appeared in the last movie, they're all apart of the deal. Fox could have had The Hand fighting Wolverine if they wanted to.

[Lock Jaw]

Elektra had a movie in 2005, though. So not sure if Fox could keep the rights for her for a bit longer. They really have no reason to unless they just want to play spoilsport.

[Kalyx triaD]

I meant that scenario could have happened in the past, Elektra's going home with all the DD gang.

Sixx could be happy that The Kingpin will be as caucasian as his shallow standards are okay with.