Marvel Universe Thread

[Reavant]

well she has to be asgaurdian or have powers because she went to the moon to pick up the hammer

[Nowhere Man]

Well, I mean, she could be a mutant or an Inhuman or something. Doesn't necessarily mean she's an Asgardian.

[Reavant]

yes.... having powers encompasses those groups

[Fignuts]

Carol Danvers?

[ClockShot]

Benedict Cumberbatch is YOUR go-to guy for all things supernatural and sorcery. Doctor Steven Strange.

[Sixx]

Benedict Cumberbatch is YOUR go-to guy for all things supernatural and sorcery. Doctor Steven Strange.

Read some time ago that he said there's no way this is happenning, cause of scheduling conflicts.

[Jura]

I read that it's just a rumor right now. I still prefer Joaquin Phoenix after I saw him in her.

[Kalyx triaD]

One report is confirming that he actually took the role. SuperHeroHype could be jumping the gun, but they're not known for being explosively wrong like that.

[ClockShot]

Read it on the front page of imdb.com.

That's as good a source as anything for movies.

[McLegend]

I love Benedict Cumberbatch so I'm on board with this.

[Kalyx triaD]

Possible...

Huge...

News...

Looking for confirmations and sources.

Holy god...

[Kalyx triaD]

Captain America: Civil War -- May 6, 2016

Doctor Strange — Nov. 4, 2016.

Guardians of the Galaxy 2 — May 5, 2017

Thor: Ragnarock — July 28, 2017

Black Panther — Nov. 3, 2017

Avengers: Infinity War (Part I) — May 4, 2018

Captain Marvel — July 6, 2018

Inhumans — Nov. 2, 2018

Avengers: Infinity War (Part II) — May 3, 2019

[Lock Jaw]

The report I have seen doesn't mention Inhumans, but checks out with the rest.

Also:

http://www.comicbookresources.com/imgsrv/imglib/0/0/1/black-panther-concept-8a438.jpg

[Lock Jaw]

"Chad Boseman" apparently confirmed to be Black Panther too

[Sixx]

Captain America: Civil War -- May 6, 2016

Doctor Strange — Nov. 4, 2016.

Guardians of the Galaxy 2 — May 5, 2017

Thor: Ragnarock — July 28, 2017

Black Panther — Nov. 3, 2017

Avengers: Infinity War (Part I) — May 4, 2018

Captain Marvel — July 6, 2018

Inhumans — Nov. 2, 2018

Avengers: Infinity War (Part II) — May 3, 2019

These were all more or less announced already.

[Lock Jaw]

Not really. Wildly speculated on is different than confirmed.

Comic Book Resources article doesn't mention Inhumans, but Newsarama's less detailed one does.

Find it "interesting" that the two movie between the two Avengers flicks are "sci fi"/"space" in nature. Wonder if they will tie in with the story, or if Infinity War will be self contained.

[Lock Jaw]

CBR has now edited Inhumans into their article

[Lock Jaw]

I still kind of want an Iron Man 4 that will pick up from the All Hail the King One-Shot. Final battle against the real Mandarin/Ten Rings.

Also still really want a Black Widow solo film... but looks like Carol Danvers will get the honour of being the first leading lady in a solo film.

[Kalyx triaD]

Tony, T'Challa, and Steve!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B1DflouCEAImZve.jpg:large

[Sixx]

Not really. Wildly speculated on is different than confirmed.

Comic Book Resources article doesn't mention Inhumans, but Newsarama's less detailed one does.

Find it "interesting" that the two movie between the two Avengers flicks are "sci fi"/"space" in nature. Wonder if they will tie in with the story, or if Infinity War will be self contained.

KalyX mentions he's looking for confirmations, so that would mean these are still NOT confirmed.

[Kalyx triaD]

When I posted the list that was me saying this shit is real.

[Kalyx triaD]

There's some kind of pic or footage of Thanos with the gauntlet.

[Sixx]

Fair enough.

[Sixx]

There's some kind of pic or footage of Thanos with the gauntlet.

Yeah. Just stumbled upon it.

https://i.imgur.com/PbztADY.jpeg

[Kalyx triaD]

Fucking thank you, Marvel.

[Sixx]

Curious about Civil War.

They gonna cram all the Avengers and everyone else into a Cap movie (which still is only a small percent of heroes from the comic book CW)?

No idea how's that gonna work, but looking forward to seeing how they do it. Haven't let me down so far.

[Kalyx triaD]

As I said before, the scale will be different but the basic premise will remain. It's not about how many heroes were involved.

[Sixx]

Well, if it's only Cap vs Iron Man it's not much of a war.

[Kalyx triaD]

You're too apt to believe something called Civil War would only have two guys fighting, so what's your real beef with the project?

[Sixx]

When did I say I got any beef with it?

[Lock Jaw]

Iron Man: "Heroes should register so we can keep the world safe!"

Cap: "Hey, Tony, remember your last idea to keep the world safe that resulted in killer robots?"

Is what I would say after Age of Ultron

[Kalyx triaD]

When did I say I got any beef with it?

You seem to think it won't be faithful. Perhaps not full blown beef.

[Sixx]

I'm loudly wondering how they're gonna do it, like I mentioned before. That's about it.

[Sixx]

But yeah, it can't be totally faithful for sure, there is no doubt about it.

[Sixx]

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10204238735021499

[Jura]

Seems like that pic with the movies and dates weren't that far off after all.

[Shadow]

There is no information on what Civil War is actually going to be about. Just that RDJ's in it as well as our first look at fucking Black Panther. Your jets, cool them.

Only thing that would make Phase 3 better and completely shit on DC's planned movies is a Black Widow. As is...WE'RE GETTING MOTHER FUCKING CAROL DANVERS!

[Sixx]

By the way, how come you guys are so sure it's gonna be Carol Danvers as Captain Marvel?

[Inadequacy]

Because Kevin Feige said it will be.

[Lock Jaw]

I think it will be Billy Batson

[Sixx]

Because Kevin Feige said it will be.

Ok, good.

[alvarado52]

Seems like that pic with the movies and dates weren't that far off after all.

Kalyx said that list was fake. Kalyx's word is law.

[Sixx]

Kalyx said that list was fake. Kalyx's word is law.

Damn straight, son.

[Kalyx triaD]

Dat Fallen Son tho

[Sixx]

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[Innovator]

http://i.imgur.com/YjYBjcI.gif

[Rammsteinmad]

Oh.

My.

God.

[Kalyx triaD]

AAAAHHHHHH

[Rammsteinmad]

Never realized (until now) that the guy playing Quicksilver played Kickass.

[Inadequacy]

And Fox's Quicksilver played his best friend!

[Sixx]

And Fox's Quicksilver played his best friend!

Hah, somehow I missed that.

Mainly remember that guy from American Horror Story.

[Sixx]

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[Fignuts]

Speculation running about, that Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch will be Inhumans, as a way to lead into the movie later down the line.

I'd be cool with that.

[Miotch]

So no Medusa and Gorgon then?

I mean, that makes a lot of sense.

[Kalyx triaD]

That makes sense. Hell Marvel doing Inhumans was specifically for this moment. It's their Fox-free mutants.

[Sixx]

Speculation running about, that Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch will be Inhumans, as a way to lead into the movie later down the line.

I'd be cool with that.

Read there was some shit about [whoever owns the X-Men franchise] got the rights to "mutants", so MCU can't use them.

So that would make sense.

[Lock Jaw]

Can't tell you how little I care about The Inhumans. I know they have had some sort of "resurgence" I guess in the comics as of late, but I haven't read up to that point yet....

Last stuff I read involving Inhumans was the War of Kings aftermath stuff.... But all the stuff before then, I just found them incredibly uninteresting.... War of Kings was good, but mainly because of all the non-Inhuman characters.

[Sixx]

Can't tell you how little I care about The Inhumans. I know they have had some sort of "resurgence" I guess in the comics as of late, but I haven't read up to that point yet....

Last stuff I read involving Inhumans was the War of Kings aftermath stuff.... But all the stuff before then, I just found them incredibly uninteresting.... War of Kings was good, but mainly because of all the non-Inhuman characters.

Come on. One of the Inhumans is called Lockjaw.

And he's a dog with a handlebar moustache.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/31666/3202856-ff+lockjaw+1.jpg

[Jura]

I just found about that and wondered if that's where he got his username.

[Sixx]

I just found about that and wondered if that's where he got his username.

Nah. Pretty sure someone asked that already.

[Lock Jaw]

I clearly have a space in my name.

[Fignuts]

So no Medusa and Gorgon then?

I mean, that makes a lot of sense.

No, Medusa and all the rest would be in it. Not saying Quicksilver and Wanda are the only inhumans, they're just Marvel's way of introducing the inhumans to the movieverse.

[Sixx]

I'm not a big fan of Inhumans, though they do have their moments.

And Maximus the Mad is awesome.

[Fignuts]

After how good Guardians of the Galaxy was, no one should doubt Marvel Studio's ability to take a comic book that most people don't give a shit about, and turn it into gold.

[Sixx]

After how good Guardians of the Galaxy was, no one should doubt Marvel Studio's ability to take a comic book that most people don't give a shit about, and turn it into gold.

That GoG was a great movie is one thing, but what's mind-boggling is how much money it made.

[Kalyx triaD]

Because it was a great movie, I guess.

[Sixx]

Eh, come the fuck on.

It was about a totally unknown team, the first part and whatnot.

And it still made more movie than sequels to well established popular movies. It's great, but it's also pretty shocking.

[Lock Jaw]

After how good Guardians of the Galaxy was, no one should doubt Marvel Studio's ability to take a comic book that most people don't give a shit about, and turn it into gold.

Difference with that is I loved the Guardians of the Galaxy comic books. Indifferent toward Inhumans comic books.

This is just me personally, of course. I'm sure other people are excited as heck. Plus, I'm sure I will see it and enjoy it. Just saying that right now I am indifferent to it.

[Kalyx triaD]

Eh, come the fuck on.

It was about a totally unknown team, the first part and whatnot.

And it still made more movie than sequels to well established popular movies. It's great, but it's also pretty shocking.

Well then perhaps your shock is simply you trying to reconcile that a movie's success is not as based on previous public knowledge as you think?

[Sixx]

Well then perhaps your shock is simply you trying to reconcile that a movie's success is not as based on previous public knowledge as you think?

It usually is, though. In the last few years at least.

There's a list, which I won't bother looking for pointing out how many of the highest grossing movies in the last few years were either sequels or remakes.

And don't act a fool, you know damn right that not every great movie is a commercial success and not every shit movie is a flop.

[Kalyx triaD]

Of course. So here's the part where you explain how an obscure superhero team of misfits became very nearly MCU's biggest success, if my thoughts don't satisfy you.

[Sixx]

Wait, how come I'm to explain if I keep saying I'm shocked/amazed by it's success?

Still - only thing I can think of is people recommending it to their friends after seeing it, because let's face it, the initial income wasn't that great ("only" like 300 mill in the first month or month and a half?). It got back to the top after a few weeks which is unusual.

[Kalyx triaD]

When box office rises after premier it's usually a word of mouth thing, and signals major DVD/On Demand sales later on. I agree that the norm tends to be a drop off after launch, and this success is certainly something worth looking into for other studios. Here's some thoughts off the top of ma head:

- Chris Pratt is insanely likable, and echoes a kind of hero we haven't really seen in a while.
- The 'Space Opera' was largely ignored for a long time, and one done with sincerity probably scratched an itch Jupiter Rising and Star Wars 7 will capitalize off.
- The very idea that a talking raccoon is on the team probably moves tickets to this day.
- It has a peculiar direction and soundtrack just goofy enough to work.
- It doesn't really look and play out like a superhero movie.
- Thanos threatened to bath the cosmos in our blood. Naturally we had to see it to save our lives.

[Fignuts]

It helps that the trailers were awesome.

[Jura]

http://oi60.tinypic.com/10zpw8l.jpg

[Kalyx triaD]

Marvels been digging into nostalgia hardcore for their 2015 plans.

[loopydate]

Will they be including Morph?

[Kalyx triaD]

He was a TV show thing but I wouldn't be surprised.

[loopydate]

That's why I asked. I figured if they're going for the look/style of the show, would they bring back the made-for-TV characters, as well.

[Kalyx triaD]

The look of the show invoked the Jim Lee designs of the time (though the show put X-Men on the map in the mainstream, so I can see them adding Morph just cause).

So... we're gonna have the teenage time-stranded X-Men, the current X-Men, and the 90s X-Men?

[JimmyMess]

that shit hits me right in the warm fuzzy childhood bone, I'm happy as tits!

[Shadow]

Don't read too much into these teasers. Supposedly it's just for the Secret War thing that'll go down. Don't expect a whole lot of these guys to stick around much.

EXCEPT FOR SPIDER-MAN BECAUSE IF THEY DON'T RETCON THE ONE MORE FUCKING DAY I'M BURNING DOWN A BUILDING WITH JOE Q IN IT!

[Fignuts]

The look of the show invoked the Jim Lee designs of the time (though the show put X-Men on the map in the mainstream, so I can see them adding Morph just cause).

So... we're gonna have the teenage time-stranded X-Men, the current X-Men, and the 90s X-Men?

Are the original X-men still in the present? God, that's dumb. Worked great as a six issue arc, but stretching it out like this is ridiculous. Battle of the Atom was the dumbest crossover in Marvel history.

[Kalyx triaD]

Not only are they still around, young Scott has an on-going with his dad.

[Fignuts]

ugh

[Reavant]

the whole arc is pretty cool

[dronepool]

Can't tell you how little I care about The Inhumans. I know they have had some sort of "resurgence" I guess in the comics as of late, but I haven't read up to that point yet....

Last stuff I read involving Inhumans was the War of Kings aftermath stuff.... But all the stuff before then, I just found them incredibly uninteresting.... War of Kings was good, but mainly because of all the non-Inhuman characters.

I never read and felt the same about Guardians but look how that turned out, its one of the best Marvel movies yet.

[KIRA]

Apparently Marvel is set to do a crossover with

Shingeki no Kyojin OR Attack on Titan

[Lock Jaw]

I have no idea what that is

[The Destroyer]

Manga/anime where giants eat people in the far future. Or something.

[KIRA]

One of the hottest Manga/Anime going.

[Destor]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BtmW3m7CMAEsUbq.jpg:large

So this ended up being almost completely spot on. Hilarious.

[Fignuts]

Marvel's next big crossover:

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Same concept as the original Secret Wars, but this time characters from various time frames and alternate universes are being gathered.

About to stop reading comics. As a kid, I loved alternate universe stuff. But that's because it was done sparingly. The past 10 years, it seems like every other story is a fucking time travel/alternate timeline thing, and at this point, I don't even care.

"Oh wow, a dystopian future where everything sucks. How will the heroes avoid this for the 500th time?" It's like all the creativity is gone. It comes off as really lazy. "Well I can't think of anything right now, so I'll just whip together some alternate character designs and call it a day. Wolverine is a bad guy. That'll make it interesting!" Ugh.

This at least is a little different. I did enjoy Exiles when it first hit, and this is sorta like that, except they have to fight eachother instead of work together.

[Sixx]

I'm gonna check this out, but all those multiple universes are kinda getting on my nerves.

The latest Spiderman issue is a real clusterfuck. Shit, even this cunt shows up:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/120147/2641524-spider_ham.png

[Fignuts]

Also, apparently you can do Marvel Unlimited for $10 a month with no long term commitment. It's pretty awesome. Reread the first 3 Ultimates books so far.

[Miotch]

Ooh, that might actually be worth it. New releases too?

[Sixx]

Ooh, that might actually be worth it. New releases too?

At least six months old.

[Fignuts]

Yeah, Original Sin #1 just dropped. But 6 months isn't bad when you consider there are also over 13,000 issues in the catalog. Still very much worth it.

[Kalyx triaD]

Battleworld seems like their 'Crisis'. I'd be interested in reading a wiki breakdown after the fact.

[Fignuts]

In a way, yes, but I don't think it's going to be a reboot or anything like that. Just a kind of "who would win if so-and-so fought" type of deal.

[Jura]

http://media.zenfs.com/en-US/homerun/comicvine.cbs.com/36572b44613bd1f65779de5ac3b18b37

[Lock Jaw]

Apparently CM Punk wrote a story for some Thor Annual.... and wants to get in and write more stuff, saying that he really wants to write The Punisher and has an "awesome story idea" for it.

[Nowhere Man]

So, apparently in the Fantastic Four reboot, Doctor Doom's new origin is that he's an anti-social computer programmer who only uses the name "Doom" as a screenname.

http://collider.com/doctor-doom-new-origin-fantastic-four-movie/

They are really going out of their way to make this as retarded as possible, aren't they?

[Lock Jaw]

Maybe their plan is to make a superhero movie so bad in an attempt to kill the genre and sabotage their competitors who have the rights to so many more superheros than them.

[JimmyMess]

that seems a bit "out there"

[Kalyx triaD]

This FF movie is sounding so bad I think it can only come out awesome.

[Rammsteinmad]

Or maybe you can all wait until it comes out before saying how awful it sounds.

[Lock Jaw]

Don't be ridiculous.

[Kalyx triaD]

We can say it sounds awful, that's not a full review or anything. I'm open minded. Just really strange shit coming out of this production.

[slik]

So, apparently in the Fantastic Four reboot, Doctor Doom's new origin is that he's an anti-social computer programmer who only uses the name "Doom" as a screenname.

http://collider.com/doctor-doom-new-origin-fantastic-four-movie/

They are really going out of their way to make this as retarded as possible, aren't they?

Damn.

I've been pretty optimistic this would turn out to be good despite what people have been thinking but maybe it really will turn out a disaster.

I won't know until I see the first trailer.

[Shadow]

This is such a beautiful trainwreck I can't wait to see it!

[Nowhere Man]

I kinda almost think that Fox is trying to pull off something like the plot from The Producers here-- make a movie on the cheap that will make its money back as long as maybe six people see it, but then make it so unbelievably awful that it tanks the franchise, then sell the remains back to Marvel knowing that Marvel won't be able to make money off of it themselves.

[loopydate]

Springtime for Victor
And Latveriaaaaaaaa

[Sixx]

Or maybe you can all wait until it comes out before saying how awful it sounds.

It wouldn't make much sense saying "It sounds awful" after seeing it, now would it?

Now's the time.

It sounds awful.

[Shadow]

I kinda almost think that Fox is trying to pull off something like the plot from The Producers here-- make a movie on the cheap that will make its money back as long as maybe six people see it, but then make it so unbelievably awful that it tanks the franchise, then sell the remains back to Marvel knowing that Marvel won't be able to make money off of it themselves.

That would be a great plan if Marvel didn't have a trump card.

Their movies make bank.

There hasn't been one that's been ultra shitty yet. And it doesn't look like there will be one. So they're gonna sit on that and be fine forever.

[Kalyx triaD]

Spider-Verse goes through many versions of Spidey. Including...

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/984658940387327659.jpg

[dronepool]

So, apparently in the Fantastic Four reboot, Doctor Doom's new origin is that he's an anti-social computer programmer who only uses the name "Doom" as a screenname.

http://collider.com/doctor-doom-new-origin-fantastic-four-movie/

They are really going out of their way to make this as retarded as possible, aren't they?

http://i62.tinypic.com/29wwldl.jpg

[Nowhere Man]

I can't wait for the FF sequel, where Galactus is just a kinda tall guy with an eating disorder.

[loopydate]

And the third one where Mole-Man is played by Fred Savage in his Goldmember makeup.

[Kalyx triaD]

Marvel Studios released an official timeline of Phase 3 that confirms Civil War is the first 'episode' Phase 3, meaning Ant-Man is the finale of Phase 2 rather than Age of Ultron.

[Shadow]

Woah...that's ambitious.

[Reavant]

Marvel already gave themselves an out with the death of wolverine.... He showed up again after the first weapon x comic.. with no memory of course

[Sixx]

Marvel already gave themselves an out with the death of wolverine.... He showed up again after the first weapon x comic.. with no memory of course

What are you talking about?

What Weapon X comic?

[Sixx]

Wait, you mean that "Sharp" guy?

I think he was just seeing shit. Like that reflection in the mirror.

He didn't look like Wolverine at the beginning of the comic.

[Reavant]

He had a mask on the entire comic...

[Fignuts]

Axis is alright so far.

But just alright. Marvel's crossovers have been pretty weak the last decade. World War Hulk and House of M were the only ones I really enjoyed. Feel like the ongoing titles are much better than all these big event books.

[Sixx]

He had a mask on the entire comic...

Not at the very beginning.

And AXIS was good, until they came up with that inversion shit. It was alright when everyone was being an asshole, but now that the good guys are bad and bad guys are good it's just silly.

[Fignuts]

Yeah I don't care for that either.

[dronepool]

I like Axis but the latest issue was eh. I do like Superior Iron Man though.

[KIRA]

People just aren't all that interested in the Fantastic 4 IMO

Besides that the people behind this reboot seem to be actively working to make it so bad it's good.

[XL]

People (i.e. a mass audience) weren't all that interested in Iron Man/Thor/Captain America until they were handled really, really well. Unfortunately, it seems FF aren't being handled really, really well.

[Rammsteinmad]

How are the FF faring in comics? It just seems in general (not just in movies) that with the success of the X-Men, Avengers and Guardians of the Galaxy, Marvel's First Family are kinda forgotten.

[Lock Jaw]

They are actually getting canceled. So not so good.

[Fignuts]

I liked Future Foundation.

[Sixx]

The new Ultimate FF is pretty terrible.

[The Destroyer]

Think it got cancelled pretty quickly anyway. Yet another failed attempt to get the Ultimate universe going again. :(

[Fignuts]

The Ultimates and Spider-man are still pretty great from what I hear. Dunno about X-men.

[The Destroyer]

I thought All New Ultimates was getting canned as well?

[Lock Jaw]

Don't think I've read a single issue from the Ultimate line ever

[Lock Jaw]

Wait, that isn't true... I think I randomly read some Ultimates comic once.... vaguely remember Hawkeye being tied up or something, and pulling his fingernails off to use as projectile weapons.

[The Destroyer]

Yeah that was from Ultimates 2, so you've definitely read one.

[Fignuts]

Wait, that isn't true... I think I randomly read some Ultimates comic once.... vaguely remember Hawkeye being tied up or something, and pulling his fingernails off to use as projectile weapons.

Yeah that part was really dumb, but pretty much everything outside of Ultimates 3 is good.

[Sixx]

The Ultimates and Spider-man are still pretty great from what I hear. Dunno about X-men.

All New Ultimates are some C-level superheroes, not a fan of this one.

And The Ultimate Spiderman got pretty weird this last volume.

You know how people always praise the Ultimate Marvel for actually keeping heroes dead once they die? Well, Norman Osborn came back from the dead twice already and Peter Parker recently showed up again and they didn't even try to explain it. When asked how come he's alive he was like "Dunno, weird, eh?".

[Nowhere Man]

That's not even mentioning

Carnage eating Gwen Stacy, then later basically pooping out a new one

[Lock Jaw]

Apparently in the latest issue of The Punisher, they kill off the Fantastic Four. Or rather the cast playing the Fantastic Four in the upcoming movie.

[McLegend]

That doesn't seem like a good sign.

[Sixx]

Apparently in the latest issue of The Punisher, they kill off the Fantastic Four. Or rather the cast playing the Fantastic Four in the upcoming movie.

Yeah, here it is:

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/fuffy/news/?a=111604

It went over my head when I read the Punisher, though.

[Shadow]

Woooooow. Marvel really does not like what Fox did with this movie.

[JimmyMess]

http://ca.ign.com/articles/2014/12/04/marvel-officially-announces-benedict-cumberbatch-as-doctor-strange

Benedict Cumberbatch is Dr. Strange...

[Kalyx triaD]

Wasn't that confirmed already?

[JimmyMess]

apparently not.

[Kalyx triaD]

Oh.

Well Krysten Ritter is Jessica Jones.

[JimmyMess]

I'm looking forward to a proper telling of Deadpool as well, with Mr. Ryan Reynolds. I have faith.

[Kalyx triaD]

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[Kalyx triaD]

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[Kalyx triaD]

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[Kalyx triaD]

Al Pacino expressed interest in the MCU, and he has met with Marvel Studios and Kevin Feige himself.

So... taking on a known character or going the Coulson/Senator Stern original route? On the former, who do you think Scarface could be?

[Sixx]

He could be J'son of Spartax, but they ain't going with that guy as Peter's father, so I doubt he'll show up at all.

[Miotch]

OK people. I signed up for Marvel Unlimited, so what the fuck should I read?

Looking at you, Fignuts, but anyone else can feel free to chime in.

[Fignuts]

Captain America 2004-2011 is really good. Starts with Winter Soldier.

Ultimates 1 and 2. I'd say avoid Ultimates 3 and Ultimatum, but as bad as the story is, it's a game changer and kind of required reading if you're gonna pick anything up after it. And Ultimate Avengers, and New Ultimates are definitely worth picking up.

Dunno, there's honestly so god damn much that it's hard to reccomend something.

They do have all the Marvel Zombies books, which looking at how many there are now, it looks like they reeeeeaaaaallly ran that into the ground. Haven't read the later ones, but the first few were really good.

[Fignuts]

Oh and if you do read the zombie stuff, make sure you start with Ultimate Fantastic Four #21, because that's where it all started.

[Kalyx triaD]

Basically if Sony missteps one more Spidey movie (be it Sinister Six or Amazing 3), Peter Parker will rub elbows with Stark and Cap as early as Phase 4 recast and everything. And we're already assured they're not interested in a third origin movie, nor will they focus so much on romance as every Spidey film has so far.

Sony's a little salty that they don't want Andrew, though.

[Miotch]

Captain America 2004-2011 is really good. Starts with Winter Soldier.

Ultimates 1 and 2. I'd say avoid Ultimates 3 and Ultimatum, but as bad as the story is, it's a game changer and kind of required reading if you're gonna pick anything up after it. And Ultimate Avengers, and New Ultimates are definitely worth picking up.

Dunno, there's honestly so god damn much that it's hard to reccomend something.

They do have all the Marvel Zombies books, which looking at how many there are now, it looks like they reeeeeaaaaallly ran that into the ground. Haven't read the later ones, but the first few were really good.

Oh and if you do read the zombie stuff, make sure you start with Ultimate Fantastic Four #21, because that's where it all started.

Thanks. I've read the Ultimates stuff. The first one is probably a top 5 comic arc for me. I love the gritty nature of it. Flawed heroes and all of that.

I read the first few New Ultimates books recently too. I was hoping for something different, but it's pretty good none the less.

You said Original Sin was shit right? I figured I'd get into it because I can, but I'm not overly engrossed.

[Fignuts]

It wasn't shit. It just doesn't quite live up to the hype that the major crossovers have these days. It's still worth a read, I'd say. Art work is fantastic.

The ones I really hated were Seige, Fear Itself, and X-Men: Battle of the Atom. Those ones are garbage, imo.

[Fignuts]

Pissed that they still haven't revealed who killed the Living Tribunal. Thought that was going to be directly tied to the Watcher's assassination in Original Sin, but I guess not.

[Lock Jaw]

Check out Annihilation if you like space stuff and haven't read it

[Fignuts]

Lock Jaw is correct. All the space stuff from Annihilation onwards is pretty great. Particularly Guardians of the Galaxy, which if you liked the movie, you'll like the book.

Pre-Annihilation space stuff is pretty shit, but Infinity Gauntlet still holds up as one of, if not the best major crossover ever.

[Fignuts]

That's right, fuck your Crisis on Infinite Earths.

[Sixx]

Battle of the Atom was shit indeed. Too much fuckin' time-travel.

I liked Siege, though. Basically liked the whole Osbourn's reign.

[Fignuts]

Battle of the Atom was shit indeed. Too much fuckin' time-travel.

I liked Siege, though. Basically liked the whole Osbourn's reign.

Have a big write up in the now dead comics group about why I hated siege. Did they ever explain anywhere why the whole world outside of the superheroes was totally cool with Norman Osborn being in charge of everything, despite being a known psychotic murderer?

Or did Marvel do what they always do, and just retcon it so no one knew he was evil except the good guys.

[Sixx]

Have a big write up in the now dead comics group about why I hated siege. Did they ever explain anywhere why the whole world outside of the superheroes was totally cool with Norman Osborn being in charge of everything, despite being a known psychotic murderer?

Or did Marvel do what they always do, and just retcon it so no one knew he was evil except the good guys.

So you hated the whole Dark Reign?

People just went crazy for the guy who shot the alien queen responsible for the whole invasion of Earth and whatnot. And he did it on live TV.

Shitty explanation, but oh well. It's not like it's the stupidest thing they ever did.

[Fignuts]

Nah, I didn't dislike Dark Reign, it just seemed like a HUGE plothole.

Would be like Charles Manson killing Osama Bin Laden and subsequently becoming head of the CIA for it.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Basically if Sony missteps one more Spidey movie (be it Sinister Six or Amazing 3), Peter Parker will rub elbows with Stark and Cap as early as Phase 4 recast and everything. And we're already assured they're not interested in a third origin movie, nor will they focus so much on romance as every Spidey film has so far.

Sony's a little salty that they don't want Andrew, though.

Yeah, I can see why they wouldn't want him. He's like half of a good Spiderman. He's got the asshole part down good like the 90s cartoon but that doesn't work well when he has to be Peter Parker too because he comes of as a prick as Peter too.

Tobey was the better Peter. Garfield is the better Spiderman.

I'd go for Chevok from the new Star Trek movies as Spiderman.

[Shadow]

Basically if Sony missteps one more Spidey movie (be it Sinister Six or Amazing 3), Peter Parker will rub elbows with Stark and Cap as early as Phase 4 recast and everything. And we're already assured they're not interested in a third origin movie, nor will they focus so much on romance as every Spidey film has so far.

Sony's a little salty that they don't want Andrew, though.

Guess what's gonna happen with both those movies. Go on...guess.

[Sixx]

Sony wanted to do a fucking Aunt May origin story, so it's better they take the rights away from them.

[XL]

Basically if Sony missteps one more Spidey movie (be it Sinister Six or Amazing 3), Peter Parker will rub elbows with Stark and Cap as early as Phase 4 recast and everything. And we're already assured they're not interested in a third origin movie, nor will they focus so much on romance as every Spidey film has so far.

Sony's a little salty that they don't want Andrew, though.

Pardon my ignorance but what constitutes a "misstep" and who makes that call? If Marvel think the film is poor? If it reviews badly? Bad Box Office?

[Helmsphere]

Alright, just downloaded Every Marvel Now Title from the beginning of 2012 to last week. So any ideas where I should start?

[Lock Jaw]

2012?

[Sixx]

Pardon my ignorance but what constitutes a "misstep" and who makes that call? If Marvel think the film is poor? If it reviews badly? Bad Box Office?

The main Sony office was not satisfied with Sony Pictures' Spiderman.

So I guess it's still the case.

[Helmsphere]

2012?

I sorta was only reading "Events" But I found a huge torrent with that big of a update, now I just don't know where to begin.

[Kalyx triaD]

Yeah it seems the big-big wigs of Sony are willing to undercut Sony Pictures and strike a deal with Marvel Studios - that would in turn undercut Sony's deal with Marvel proper.

It's confusing and stupid.

But the jist is Sony would rather Marvel Studios make blockbuster Spidey movies and get some money out of it, then have Sony Pictures limp along until they literally can't afford the sinking ship (and then Marvel gets it back anyway). Spidey heading to the MCU this way makes sure Sony gets money for his film appearances. This wouldn't even be on the table if Sony was confident their studio could knock it out of the park.

There's rumor that Marvel Studios is so sure of this outcome Spidey had a slot in a draft of Civil War, but Sony's waiting it out on the off-chance Amazing 3 is spectacular or whatever.

Amazing 1 was so-so and I did like Amazing 2, but I think Spidey's going home by Phase 4.

[Shadow]

Pardon my ignorance but what constitutes a "misstep" and who makes that call? If Marvel think the film is poor? If it reviews badly? Bad Box Office?

Not making Guardians of the Galaxy type money. That's the bar. You don't get that, or at least 1.5x your budget back, you misstepped.

Didn't help that Amazing 2 was shite.

[Fignuts]

The ending of Amazing 2 was weird and awkward. Smashed together in 10 minutes what could have been the plot of Amazing 3. Should of just ended at Gwen's funeral.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Yeah it seems the big-big wigs of Sony are willing to undercut Sony Pictures and strike a deal with Marvel Studios - that would in turn undercut Sony's deal with Marvel proper.

It's confusing and stupid.

But the jist is Sony would rather Marvel Studios make blockbuster Spidey movies and get some money out of it, then have Sony Pictures limp along until they literally can't afford the sinking ship (and then Marvel gets it back anyway). Spidey heading to the MCU this way makes sure Sony gets money for his film appearances. This wouldn't even be on the table if Sony was confident their studio could knock it out of the park.

There's rumor that Marvel Studios is so sure of this outcome Spidey had a slot in a draft of Civil War, but Sony's waiting it out on the off-chance Amazing 3 is spectacular or whatever.

Amazing 1 was so-so and I did like Amazing 2, but I think Spidey's going home by Phase 4.

X-Men to follow? :D

Marvel and Fox should try to make a co-production deal.

[Kalyx triaD]

First Class and Days have the bittersweet distinction of being really good movies. The Apocalypse, Deadpool, and Gambit buzz alone guarantees Fox a very high bargaining platform. Marvel would have to make a good case. It helps that Hugh Jackman is very open about playing in the MCU.

[parkmania]

Is there any chance at all that Pacino ends up being Dr. Strange?

[McLegend]

Bendict Cumberbatch is Dr. Strange.

[parkmania]

Didn't realize that was official.


Never mind.

[Shadow]

He's also a bit too old to the the Sorcerer Supreme.

[Kalyx triaD]

Back in the 616, Spider-Woman is getting a new costume. Something 'streetwise' and not unlike Batgirl's new duds:

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/1039007099585158184.jpg

The suit will debut next year.

[Fignuts]

eh, I like the old one.

[Lock Jaw]

Reminds me of The Tarantula from DC Comics....

[Kalyx triaD]

She takes love.

[Inadequacy]

I love it, especially that Javier Rodriguez will be illustrating instead of Greg Land. Hopefully the artist change is permanent.

[Fignuts]

Kluh is stupid as fuck.

"Hey, we heard you like Hulk, so we put a Hulk in your Hulk..."

[Sixx]

Kluh is stupid as fuck.

"Hey, we heard you like Hulk, so we put a Hulk in your Hulk..."

For real.

[Miotch]

Read Age of Ultron.

Was thoroughly unimpressed.

[alvarado52]

Well its clear that the film isnt going to go with the whole time travel thing. Its really just the name being borrowed from what it looks like.

AoU had its highs and lows...but the ending was pretty huge in terms of opening up doors for new characters/iterations and crossovers.

[Fignuts]

I did mark out for Angela, but yeah, World War Hulk and House of M have been the only big crossovers I've really liked in the last 10 years.

Still been a lot of great stuff in Marvel's monthly titles though.

[Fignuts]

Try Earth X and Universe X. Those are supposed to be pretty good.

[Lock Jaw]

I started reading Marvel with House of M. Which was kinda weird to do, because for a lot of the characters I didn't really know, the first version I read was an alternate timeline version. I am way behind now. So behind that the last major event I read was Siege.

[Crimson]

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[Rammsteinmad]

Wow that really was pretty fucking fantastic.

[Kalyx triaD]

Jaimie Alexander has teased on Twitter that she did some Sif stuff for... who knows. She didn't say. Age of Ultron, SHIELD, Ant-Man reshoots, who knows.

[Sixx]

AXIS just finished. Stupid event.

So Sabretooth didn't go back to being bad, he's a good guy now. Guess he's kind of a Wolverine replacement for the time being.

[Fignuts]

Fucking hate when they try to make Sabretooth a good guy. So fucking stupid

[Sixx]

Fucking hate when they try to make Sabretooth a good guy. So fucking stupid

That fuckin' letter he wrote to Logan at the end of AXIS #9. Jesus.

Best part of AXIS was probably Carnage trying to be a good guy, because it was pretty damn hilarious.

[Shadow]

Did that at least take?

[Sixx]

Did that at least take?

Errr, what?

[Kalyx triaD]

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[alvarado52]

Vinnie Diesel updated his FB cover photo with a picture of him and "are you Inhuman"....maybe hinting?

[Kalyx triaD]

His named was linked to Black Bolt way back. Dunno if he's actually in the running.

[Sixx]

His named was linked to Black Bolt way back. Dunno if he's actually in the running.

That' some horrible casting.

Then again it would be pretty hilarious if one of his characters was voice only and the other everything but.

[Fignuts]

Yeah, if anything he might make a good Gorgon, but I definitely can't see him as Black Bolt.

[alvarado52]

I'd imagine they're going to ditch the "speaking destroys errthang" stipulation to Black Bolt in the flim...I mean, I cant really imagine Marvel having the leader of the Inhumans just making faces for 2 hours. Works in books, probably not so much in film.

[Kalyx triaD]

This would be the same studio that made a talking gun toting racoon work on film.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

I'd imagine they're going to ditch the "speaking destroys errthang" stipulation to Black Bolt in the flim...I mean, I cant really imagine Marvel having the leader of the Inhumans just making faces for 2 hours. Works in books, probably not so much in film.

If they get a competent actor they can. Not Vin Diesel.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

This would be the same studio that made a talking gun toting racoon work on film.

Not really the same thing. That's pretty awesome.

[Rammsteinmad]

I don't think they'd make Black Bolt talk. Most of what they've done so far has been somewhat loyal to the comics, and has catered to comic fans whilst still appealing to mainstream audiences.

Groot was one of the most loved characters from Guardians. I've seen him all over any Marvel advertising/displays at work, and yet his only dialogue consists of three words throughout the whole movie. Black Bolt not talking on film will work.

[Lock Jaw]

"Gambit" starring Channing Tatum officially announced for release on October 7, 2016

[Kalyx triaD]

Cool.

[alvarado52]

Latino Review (which has a history of being spot on with inside info) says Spidey will be in Infinity War I.

Obviously years from now, but if true, that will be huge.

[Kalyx triaD]

HERE WE GO

[Rammsteinmad]

I hope it's still Andrew Garfield, but yeah this is gonna be fucking incredible if it's true.

[Shadow]

Yeah Latino review also stated that Cap was gonna be dead until Infinity War and that Thor will be in cosmic jail some how.

Not buying it.

[Fignuts]

They might be. They are only signed for so many movies, and Marvel might want to save their last appearance for the final movie.

Civil War ended with Cap dying, and that's the next Cap movie.

[Rammsteinmad]

I'm not putting anything past Marvel anymore.

[Sixx]

Yeah Latino review also stated that Cap was gonna be dead until Infinity War and that Thor will be in cosmic jail some how.

Not buying it.

Steve Rogers is probably gonna be dead soon. Chris Evans' deal runs out in like what, 2 movies? And Sebastian Stan signed on for many more.

No idea about the cosmic jail stuff.

[XL]

Could he not sign an extension/new contract?

[Lock Jaw]

Impossible.

[Kalyx triaD]

Evans could sign more, but it was stated a bunch of times how little movies he had left. And you can't ignore how many movies Stan signed for, considering Winter's promotion in the comics.

MCU Spidey won't be Andrew but he had a good run. The issues with the Amazing movies were not his fault.

[Kalyx triaD]

This was likely but the Russos confirmed that Black Widow will be in Civil War. Anthony Mackie was already set to appear. Curiously enough, Sebastian Stan has yet to be confirmed to return.

[Lock Jaw]

Article I read confirmed both Black Widow and Winter Soldier as returning.

[Kalyx triaD]

Hey guys I just read this very moment that Winter Soldier is coming back!

[Sixx]

Could he not sign an extension/new contract?

He supposedly turned them down a few times. Wants to do something else with his career or some shit like that.

[Lock Jaw]

Really hope Civil War turns out good, since Winter Soldier was so good....

Worried with the addition of so many people... especially Iron Man....

[Kalyx triaD]

We must trust the Russos. The writing team is the same as well.

[Kalyx triaD]

Some ah... heavy shit going down between the 616 and Ultimate universe. DC fans are well aware what comes out of this. I likened the new Secret Wars to Marvel's own Crisis event, and I guess I was more on the money than I thought.

I wonder what stays and what goes.

[loopydate]

I haven't read an Ultimate book since the abomination that was Ultimatum. Did they manage to right that ship with the four characters that were still alive after that?

[Kalyx triaD]

I haven't an Ultimate book since Ultimate Spider-Man arc 2.

[Lock Jaw]

I read one once. That is about it. Downloaded a big torrent of the Ultimate universe years ago and never read it. Might still have those files somewhere...

[Sixx]

Miles Morales The Ultimate Spiderman (or however the fuck it's called right now) is decent, yet weird, like I mentioned in this thread (Peter Parker returning from the dead, Osborn returning from the dead twice). All-New Ultimates blow, the Ultimate FF is terrible and Ultimate X-Men is mediocre.

[Sixx]

Hm, I think Ultimate X-Men is no longer a thing, though.

Anyway, Ultimate Universe went to shit.

[Fignuts]

Wait.

Are New Ultimates and All New Ultimates two different books?

Cause New Ultimates was fucking great.

[Sixx]

Wait.

Are New Ultimates and All New Ultimates two different books?

Cause New Ultimates was fucking great.

Yeah.

All New Ultimates is one of the only 3 Ultimate Marvel titles at the moment.

It's a bunch of kids basically. Miles Morales, Kitty Pryde, Cloak and Dagger, etc.

[Fignuts]

ew

[Kalyx triaD]

New Venom attire for Flash:

http://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/stg.ign.com/2015/01/Venom_02.jpg
http://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/stg.ign.com/2015/01/New-Venom.jpg

[JimmyMess]

http://ca.ign.com/articles/2015/01/21/deadpool-movie-reportedly-begins-filming-in-vancouver-in-march

Deadpool bizitches.

[Kalyx triaD]

LES GO

[Lock Jaw]

Sophie Turner cast as Jean Grey
Tye Sheridan cast as Cyclops
Alexandra Shipp cast as Storm