NFL 2012 Season Thread

[SammyG]

Complete passes to Edelman, Woodhead, too many short white guys out there, think all of them are Welker.

[screech]

That's racist

[Emperor Smeat]

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1422181/zapruder.gif

[owenbrown]

THROW THE MOTHERFUCKING BALL TO FUCKING ROB GRONKOWSKI YOU FUCKS

Fixed.

[SammyG]

Fucking A, there we go Brady. PS Fuck the Patriots. FANTASY THOUGHHHH

[SammyG]

No, I am playing against Gronk. Which is scary when NE is in the red zone.

[owenbrown]

expect SammyG's fantasy football related post to be deleted by RoXer in 3....2....1....


<s> stfu owenbrown</s> no

[Emperor Smeat]

Hey Smelly Meatball, my favorite team is beating your favorite team! Woo!

:wave: screech, my favorite team is beating your favorite team! Woooooooo!

**takes off jacket and elbow drops it** Wooooooo!

[SammyG]

lol Edelman talking shit running back to the locker room

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Jesus, who's playing defense for the Ravens? Joe Flacco?

[screech]

Womp womp

[Supreme Olajuwon]

why isn't owenbrown complaining about mod abuse in here?

[#1-norm-fan]

The ravens best cb is on him..edleman and lloyd up against Cary Williams who is not as good

Flacco outplaying Brady AGAIN and winning

Wes Welker has nearly 100 receiving yards in one half against Baltimore's best corner.

[#1-norm-fan]

Also, Brady outplayed Flacco in the first half.

[#1-norm-fan]

Unfortunately it's a lost cause since Droford stats have already given this game to Baltimore.

[owenbrown]

now that I seen Roxer edit my post.... :roll:

[Ermaximus]

lol Some of those are uncanny

Gabbert's looks dead on.

[owenbrown]

I wonder if I type FANTASY FOOTBALL really big and in all caps Roxer would edit it? :shifty:

[owenbrown]

why isn't owenbrown complaining about mod abuse in here?

fucking mod abuse

[Supreme Olajuwon]

feel like Joe Flacco hands the ball off to his backs so well that he should get credit for a completion

[#1-norm-fan]

feel like Joe Flacco hands the ball off to his backs so well that he should get credit for a completion

In Dro-stats he does.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

hey girl, I got some of dem fresh Dro-stats over here. lemme holla at ya

[Supreme Olajuwon]

clearly out of bounds you dumb slut

[Droford]

Torrey!

[#1-norm-fan]

Torrey Smith should probably be suspended for playing with a heavy heart. Clearly an unfair advantage.

[#1-norm-fan]

Oh hey. Droford's back once Baltimore regains the lead.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Remember folks, if someone blocks you, it's personal. If you watch someone get murdered, pretend it didn't happen.

[Droford]

Its pissing me off the defense is awful right now

[owenbrown]

there's defense in the NFL? :?:

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Pretty sure Joe Flacco has instructed the defense to blow the lead so he can make a comeback again.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Bernard Pollard hasn't crippled a Patriot yet. What a rip-off.</font>

[SammyG]

Come on Brady, Welker is open somewhere

[owenbrown]

SammyG perhaps you should keep fantasy football posts to yourself :shifty:

[Emperor Smeat]

Llyod has been a great pickup so far this season.


<font color=goldenrod>Bernard Pollard hasn't crippled a Patriot yet. What a rip-off.</font>
yeah its been a miracle that he hasn't injured anyone yet.

[#1-norm-fan]

SammyG perhaps you should keep fantasy football posts to yourself :shifty:

Maybe he's just a big Wes Welker fan.

[Droford]

Ugh..

[#1-norm-fan]

Aaaaand Droford gets quiet.

[#1-norm-fan]

Ooh. An "Ugh".

[#1-norm-fan]

Hang on Droford, I'll find you some encouraging stats to improve your mood.

[Droford]

Flacvo will drive them back for another td...the pats defense isn't at the game either

[#1-norm-fan]

Ravens are 35-5 under Harbaugh when scoring at least 21 points.

Pretty convincing.

[Droford]

Torrey smith! Whoo

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Torrey smith! Whoo

Torrey Smith. He's a wide receiver for the Baltimore Ravens.

LOL @ you not knowing Whoo Torrey Smith is. Some fan!

[Droford]

The ravens defense is going to step up here and get a turnover...

[owenbrown]

DROFORD'S A PHONY! A BIG FAT STINKING PHONY!

[#1-norm-fan]

The ravens defense is going to step up here and get a turnover...

SPOILER ALERT!!!!!!

[Emperor Smeat]

Cena wins?

[Emperor Smeat]

:lol: Harbaugh's face

[owenbrown]

holy shit

[Droford]

Lol..way to start laying defense now

[#1-norm-fan]

The ravens defense is going to step up here and get a turnover...

Worst spoiler ever.

[SammyG]

lol CM Punk theme

[Droford]

Its sad that I can't get excited over a good drive here since I know they can't stop the pats to make it mean something

[screech]

Go for it!

[owenbrown]

really Baltimore?

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>lol what a shit play call</font>

[Droford]

Dumb play calling...gh

[Emperor Smeat]

Biggest stop by the Pats D on Ravens rushing so far

[owenbrown]

lol CM Punk theme

don't let Gertner hear that that theme was played on Sunday Night Football he might go batshit

[screech]

They'd call the same play on 4th and 12. Ridiculous.

[SammyG]

don't let Gertner hear that that theme was played on Sunday Night Football he might go batshit

Why?

[owenbrown]

you don't go in the wrestling forum do you?

[screech]

Probably a good thing

[owenbrown]

he might say something along the lines of "WHY WAS THAT VANILLA MIDGET'S THEME PLAYED ON SUNDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL?! :mad:"

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Actually want the Ravens to score on this drive to keep it interesting.</font>

[Fignuts]

I don't think Gertner even watches football.

[Droford]

Holy shit a defensive stop

[SammyG]

I want the Ravens to score as well, just to have Brady throw the ball again.

[#1-norm-fan]

lol. No hold at all.

[SammyG]

These refs are ridiculously bad. I know it has been said like a million times, but still.

[Droford]

The stupid 4th down call is going to be the difference in the game

[screech]

I love Ray Rice.

[Droford]

Torrey again!

[Emperor Smeat]

Stupid penalties by the Pats D hurt them on that drive.

[Droford]

I cannot believe I don't trust the ravens defense to stop them...fuck

[#1-norm-fan]

lol @ Droford bitching about the refs earlier.

[Droford]

Harbaugh better call an onside kick

[#1-norm-fan]

Stupid penalties by the Pats D hurt them on that drive.

You can't blame them too much. They would have likely been off the field if it weren't for that phantom defensive hold.

[Droford]

lol @ Droford bitching about the refs earlier.

I was shocked they didn't call that td back like they did last week

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Ravens D will probably fuck this up.</font>

[#1-norm-fan]

I was shocked they didn't call that td back like they did last week

Were you shocked when they called that hold that didn't happen on that last drive?

[#1-norm-fan]

Because they're pretty shitty all around.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Hilarious Webb

[screech]

Were you shocked when they called that hold that didn't happen on that last drive?

I was shocked

[SammyG]

Ouch, if you're a Ravens fan.

[Droford]

Refs just handing the pats the game

[Supreme Olajuwon]

lol this drive is amazing

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Coaches should probably just play the rest of this season under protest. Officiating has been terrible across the board today.</font>

[Emperor Smeat]

wow Ravens are starting to fall apart at the worst time possible

[SammyG]

Most thunderous Bullshit chant I have ever heard

[Supreme Olajuwon]

lol @ this organized chant too

[owenbrown]

lol @ the bullshit chant... where's the 7 second delay, NBC? :roll:

[#1-norm-fan]

Refs just handing the pats the game

lol. Jesus Christ.

[screech]

Mother fuck

[SammyG]

NFL has all the leverage.. it sucks. I honestly don't think the real refs will be back at all this season. lol @ bullshit chant again.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

lol @ the Ravens sound guys not learning their lesson the first time

[SammyG]

Hahaha, Al Micheals, "No 7 second delay on that one"

[screech]

Bullshit chant is/was awesome

[#1-norm-fan]

lol @ the bullshit chant... where's the 7 second delay, NBC? :roll:

Al Michaels is reading TPWW right now.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>One of these poor refs will be murdered before the end of the night.</font>

[screech]

<font color=goldenrod>One of these poor refs will be murdered before the end of the night.</font>

No doubt

[#1-norm-fan]

The replacement official era will go down as one of the more hilarious football memories of our lives. We'll be discussing this debacle with our grandkids.

[Droford]

If they can't stop a 3rd and long I don't know what I'll do but it won't be pretty

[#1-norm-fan]

Would probably be a 9 point game still if it wasn't for the phantom holding call on Baltimore's last drive. At least they're consistent.

[SammyG]

This will prolly be a screen pass or a hand off. Not gonna risk a pick.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Droford suicide watch in 3...2...1...</font>

[SammyG]

Terrell Suggs scares me even from the sideline in a hoodie.

[screech]

Would probably be a 9 point game still if it wasn't for the phantom holding call on Baltimore's last drive. At least they're consistent.

Phantom hold repaid with a phantom unsportsmanlike conduct

[SammyG]

That was almost picked, that is some stupid play calling by NE.

[#1-norm-fan]

lol. The clock stops after the punt whether it's the 2 minute warning or not, Al. That one second isn't really an advantage.

[Droford]

Flacco time for the comeback

[SammyG]

Cundiff is coming back for one last kick

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I predict the Joe Flaccos will win this game.

[screech]

Cundiff is coming back for one last kick

Lol

[SammyG]

If the Ravens do win this game... I hope it's a Torrey Smith bomb TD.

[SammyG]

Will seriously lol if the Ravens miss a FG

[Corndad]

As much as I HATE the Ravens a Torrey Smith winner is happening tonight. Hope it doesn't but just feeling it

[SammyG]

There have been SO many great games today, great day of football.

[SammyG]

lol Flacco, what the fuck was that?

[#1-norm-fan]

lol. Flacco trying to throw the ball to Arrington.

[SammyG]

Hahahahaha, flag thrown, Jacoby Jones starts acting as hood as possible

[Corndad]

Of course the Refs are gonna be the reason lol

[SammyG]

AYYYYYYY MAYNE, GOT DAT FLAG DOE, FINNA TALK DAT SHIT

[Droford]

Oh my god

[Emperor Smeat]

:foc: CBs sucking still an issue this season just like last year

[#1-norm-fan]

... Why would the Pats not use their timeouts?

[owenbrown]

ICE THE FUCKING KICKER

[SammyG]

The ghost of Cundiff is in the building...

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I predict the Joe Flaccos will make this field goal.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

... Why would the Pats not use their timeouts?

only had two. ravens could still run it down with two more kneel downs

[SammyG]

Awesome for Torrey Smith. Must be beyond difficult to go out there and play after the death of your sibling.

[#1-norm-fan]

I predict the Joe Flaccos will make this field goal.

I predict Joe Flacco will make this field goal.

[SammyG]

LOL WHAT?! Oh, fuck, he made it. I don't think that went in. i dunno. what the fuck.

[SammyG]

Can they review this? It's good, nvm

[Emperor Smeat]

Holy shit he almost missed that.

[Corndad]

The hell was that LOL

[Droford]

I don't believe that..

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>What an ending. Christ.</font>

[Corndad]

Bill is not happy.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I predict the Joe Flaccos will win this game.

I predict the Joe Flaccos will make this field goal.

LOL called this ages ago. I am so smart!

[owenbrown]

that's what I am asking

[#1-norm-fan]

Belichick is looking for a ref to beat the fuck out of.

[SammyG]

Droford is gonna get white girl wasted

[owenbrown]

These rent-a-refs better pull an Earl Hebner quick

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Belichick's getting a huge fine for that one.

Even if it is only week 3 it's pretty insane to realize that the Pats are under .500 for the first time in 9 years.</font>

[owenbrown]

I officially hate Seven Nation Army now because of fucking Baltimore fans

[screech]

:D

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I dunno why Belichick is mad at the referees. His defense gave up 382 yards and 3 TDs to JOE FLACCO, THE WORST QUARTERBACK IN THE UNIVERSE

[#1-norm-fan]

Billy Cundiff would have left no doubt with that game winner.

[screech]

My stream froze after the kick. What did Bill do?

[SammyG]

That's gonna be a huge fine, yeah.

[SammyG]

My stream froze after the kick. What did Bill do?

Ran after a ref, tried to grab him, definitely made contact.

[SammyG]

Feel so gutted for Torrey Smith. :( Wish the interviewer wasn't asking him these questions.

[screech]

No bueno

[RoXer]

I officially hate Seven Nation Army now because of fucking Baltimore fans

What about college teams for the past 3 years?

Or soccer teams for the past 6?

[Corndad]

I'm happy for Torrey Smith. As a Steelers fan for a Raven that shows the respect I have for how he played tonight. Amazing.

[owenbrown]

well now that makes it even more annoying (re: Roxer's post)

[Droford]

Flacco threw for 382 and ray rice ran for over 100, probably first time ever

[#1-norm-fan]

I think Flacco's incompletion to Arrington really hurt New England's chances here.

[RoXer]

Congratulations to the Baltimore Ravens for beating the New England Patriots, putting them in such prestigious company which includes the Arizona Cardinals.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Ray Lewis definitely made sure to hug Torrey Smith where every camera could see him.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Eli Manning says he's elite. Leads a 2 minute drive for a regular season win against the Pats. Goes on to win the Super Bowl.

Joe Flacco says he's elite. Leads a 2 minute drive for a regular season win against the Pats. Goes on to win the Su........LOL can't even get through that with a straight face.</font>

[#1-norm-fan]

Bills and Patriots potentially playing for first place/last place next week.

[Droford]

Ravens defense can't suck so much going forward

[Fignuts]

Oh my god, The Pats are going to be so angry when they play us next week.

And we don't have CJ Spiller or Fred Jackson

Going to be a massacre.

[SammyG]

Schaub lost a piece of his ear, wtf.

[#1-norm-fan]

Schaub lost a piece of his ear, wtf.

Now every time he goes back into shotgun, he'll shout "BANG BANG!"

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

I think the NFL is intentionally taking forever on these officials talks as a fuck you to the players for the strike.

[Droford]

<font color=goldenrod>Eli Manning says he's elite. Leads a 2 minute drive for a regular season win against the Pats. Goes on to win the Super Bowl.

Joe Flacco says he's elite. Leads a 2 minute drive for a regular season win against the Pats. Goes on to win the Su........LOL can't even get through that with a straight face.</font>

The ravens wee a dropped pass from the super bowl last year...he's been to 2 afc champ games in 4 years..give me a break

[SammyG]

Yeah, people need to get off Flacco's dick.

[James Steele]

I think the NFL is intentionally taking forever on these officials talks as a fuck you to the players for the strike.

They are taking forever because they want to destroy the ref's union. People will watch the NFL regardless of the referees, so why not try and bust the union right now? Steve Young was on the money last week on his statement about the whole ref situation.

[Droford]

My biggest concern is they'll be flat as pancakes for the browns Thursday but its a home game..if they lose to the browns at home somebody will be looking for work on friday

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Yeah, unless fans actually stop watching because of the refs - which will simply never happen, the NFL will continue to have all of the leverage.</font>

[Droford]

Another thing..ravens had 4 turnovers on defense and lost by 1 pt last week..no turnovers this week and won by a point..crazy

[Supreme Olajuwon]

The NFL bubble will bust eventually. It's just not gonna be the refs that make it happen. But the NFL's attitude toward the refs definitely shows that they'll fuck up beyond repair eventually.

[SammyG]

I just don't see why the NFL would budge and bring the real refs back unless they agree to the NFL's conditions. People are gonna still pour money into the NFL, that's what it's all about. Money. Fans aren't gonna stop going to the games or buying merchandise just because the refs suck ass.

[Droford]

Ravens now have longest streak of 62 games above .500..awesome

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

The NFLPA is trying to argue that having these scab refs make an unsafe working environment for the players.

[Emperor Smeat]

Only leverage the ref union has is if the replacement refs screw up big time in the Super Bowl to the point of it becoming a controversy.

Right now the league is more focused on punishing anyone who talks badly about the replacements than caring about getting a deal done with the union. Only reason they caved a bit last year with the players was due to the special plans to commemorate 9/11 after talking about it for weeks and the owners didn't want to lose a whole season's worth of revenues.

[Droford]

Will pats fans go into hiding like red sox fans if they keep losing games?

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>The refs union should just lock Goodell in a room with Ed Hochuli until the dispute is settled.</font>

[SammyG]

NFL with the ref lockout, NHL lockout, Stern's a douchebag in the NBA (which also had a lockout last year).. Yay MLB and college sports.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Will pats fans go into hiding like red sox fans if they keep losing games?

Not when there is a glaring excuse like these horrible refs to complain about. Red Sox have nobody to blame but themselves for their collapses.

Go Orioles beat the Yankees for the ALE!

[#1-norm-fan]

Ravens now have longest streak of 62 games above .500..awesome

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[Droford]

Hahahahaha, flag thrown, Jacoby Jones starts acting as hood as possible
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1422527/refswag.gif

[#1-norm-fan]

<font color=goldenrod>The refs union should just lock Goodell in a room with Ed Hochuli until the dispute is settled.</font>

Cruel and unusual punishment.

[Droford]

Someones suggesting the ravens fans keep the bullshit chant as a rally chant to piss the NFL off

[SammyG]

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1422527/refswag.gif

lollllllllllllllllllll SWAG

[owenbrown]

Cruel and unusual punishment.

against Hochuli yes

[owenbrown]

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1422527/refswag.gif

that should have been 15 yards for unsportsmanlike conduct against Jones

[Droford]

Lol the ravens have 98 points which is 2nd most in NFL to the redskins 99

[Droford]

The cardinals have won 10 of their last 12 games...wow didn't realize that

[OssMan]

The guy who played the national anthem for the night game was fucking jawful

[OssMan]

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1422527/refswag.gif
Fucking hate when players do this. Like that guy is proud of himself for the opposing player being a dumbass.

[OssMan]

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/251549_10151015140596254_635803075_n.jpg

look guys i'm so coll

http://oi47.tinypic.com/2mr5ydt.jpg
which hats are best guys? can A Man with Hats chime in here please?

[SammyG]

Fucking hate when players do this. Like that guy is proud of himself for the opposing player being a dumbass.

It's Jacoby Jones. Dude is an idiot.

[#1-norm-fan]

Lol the ravens have 98 points which is 2nd most in NFL to the redskins 99

Well at least you're in good company...

[#1-norm-fan]

which hats are best guys? can A Man with Hats chime in here please?

Is the teddy bear part of that hat? If so, that one.

[SammyG]

It's weird to see a "new sports hat" that isn't a flat bill

[Fignuts]

It's weird to see a "new sports hat" that isn't a flat bill

Rubber bands, dude.

[SammyG]

Need to get the new Rams flat bill...

[RoXer]

http://www.azcardinals.com/videos-photos/videos/Larry-Larry-Larry/1a62baaa-4eee-41e2-853c-63e6af3cfae4

[Fignuts]

That might be the greatest football clip I've ever seen.

[SammyG]

lol Hispanics

[OssMan]

lari fitgeral

[James Steele]

The NFL bubble will bust eventually. It's just not gonna be the refs that make it happen. But the NFL's attitude toward the refs definitely shows that they'll fuck up beyond repair eventually.

I think it will happen when "player safety" turns the NFL into 7 on 7 and college football is more hard-hitting than the NFL. The rule changes over the past 10 years (and probably going forward) will make it very hard to play aggressive defense. It feels like it's going to get to the point where the rules will be similar to that of the Pro Bowl. I also think it is going to get where NFL games will have ads after every play so the networks can afford the (even more) massive TV contracts that will come down the road and the Super Bowl will become a PPV game or something. Their may also be a really long and drawn out strike/lockout next time the CBA expires which may hurt the NFL more than they think.

[Team Sheep]

The tackling so far this season has been absolutely shocking. Really pissing me off as I prefer low scoring defensive slug fests to 40-40 shootouts.

[Swiss Ultimate]

If the Saints can't beat the Chiefs at home then their playoff aspirations are done for.

Bastards!!!! I WAS THERE FROM THE BEGINNING! AND THIS IS HOW YOU REWARD MY LOYALTY?

[Droford]

Ravens play the chiefs in kc week 5, no way Charles goes off for 200 since the run defense is still decent.

Week 7 though is gonna be a slobber knocker in Houston..suggs is eligible to return for that game off the pup list, whether he can or not I dont know.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Droford making a very risky prediction that a running back won't get 200 yards in a game. Very, very risky prediction.

[Innovator]

The tackling so far this season has been absolutely shocking. Really pissing me off as I prefer low scoring defensive slug fests to 40-40 shootouts.

You can probably blame it on less full contact practices.

[RoXer]

I think it will happen when "player safety" turns the NFL into 7 on 7 and college football is more hard-hitting than the NFL. The rule changes over the past 10 years (and probably going forward) will make it very hard to play aggressive defense. It feels like it's going to get to the point where the rules will be similar to that of the Pro Bowl.

You and I must be watching different football games

[Innovator]

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18028jzi3fnq5gif/original.gif

[CSL]

Revis done for the year. Dude seems to get hurt a lot

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Saints

<img src="http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120229204715/protagonist/images/thumb/d/d0/Earl_J._Hickey.jpg/250px-Earl_J._Hickey.jpg" width="250" height="357" class="thumbimage">

[James Steele]

You and I must be watching different football games

Yeah, this year already has had more hits than last few years combined but that has more to do with the referee situation than the general league philosophy/direction. Do you not thing the NFL has changed the rules in the past 10 years to give offenses advantages and make it harder to play "aggressive defense" and has gone out of its way to protect QBs?

[Triple A]

god damn you all

[Triple A]

revis out for season "sigh"

[James Steele]

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2012/0327/pg2_e_cap0327b_576.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/VLfaR.jpg

[RoXer]

Yeah, this year already has had more hits than last few years combined but that has more to do with the referee situation than the general league philosophy/direction. Do you not thing the NFL has changed the rules in the past 10 years to give offenses advantages and make it harder to play "aggressive defense" and has gone out of its way to protect QBs?

They have changed the rules and yet players are still running out there playing balls out.

At least 3 times a game I see a hit and I'm immediately sure that someone is dead from the hit.

It's going to take someone to physically die on the field before any drastic changes are made and I get the feeling that's going to happen sooner rather than later.

[RoXer]

Do you not thing the NFL has changed the rules in the past 10 years to give offenses advantages and make it harder to play "aggressive defense" and has gone out of its way to protect QBs?

Hey uh, don't lead with your head. You could die.

Hey uh, don't hit someone in the head with your head. You guys might die.

Hey uh, if someones not looking, don't hit them in the head. They might die.

[RoXer]

I mean, most of these rule changes are common sense.

[James Steele]

The increase in roughing the passer, pass intereference, and fines for hits that aren't flagged during the game are the ones I'm talking about.

[CSL]

outside of the fines (which kind of ties into the head/concussion stuff), isn't that just a by-product of the gash officiating?

[RoXer]

I dunno what's being said anymore.

I'm saying the game is still incredibly violent even with the fines and rules that have been implemented to "protect the qb" over the past few years. In order for a drastic change in the rules like a "7 on 7" or "Pro Bowl style" to happen someone is going to have to physically die on the field and that is very close to happening each week because the game continues to be violent.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Exactly. Those hits probably would have been flagged had their been experienced refs and then a fine on top of it. A flag is not needed for a hit to be considered fine-able if the league deems it to be in violation of the defense-less receiver rule.

The league is asking way too much of these refs. Learn all the rules and along with the injury-related rules. It was hard enough for the experienced refs to get it all down for the last few seasons.

[RoXer]

I mean, a QB just had his ear torn off yesterday.

[Droford]

Droford making a very risky prediction that a running back won't get 200 yards in a game. Very, very risky prediction.

The ravens defense isn't shitty like the saints defense

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Right, and because 200 yard games are like, really, really, REALLY rare.

But hey man, I like that you're taking a risk and being bold. That's very Flacco of you.

[James Steele]

The ravens defense isn't sorry like the saints defense

Whose won more championships (divisional, conference, and WORLD) in the last decade?

Divisional Championships: Ravens 3, Saints 3 [TIE]
Conference Championships: Ravens 0, Saints 1 [Victory Saints]
World Championships: Ravens 0, Saints 1 [Victory Saints]

5 CHAMPIONSHIPS TO 3

Since the 32-team league expansion, the Saints have been more of a championship calibur team than the Ravens. Even if you go back to 2000 (which I'm sure you do), the Ravens are still not as good as the Saints over that time period in championships since the Saints were NFC South champions in 2000 thus giving them a 1 title advantage in this clash of the champions.

[James Steele]

Ball So Hard University is a JUCO compared to WHOoop Dat Ass University at NOLA

[Droford]

Whose won more championships (divisional, conference, and WORLD) in the last decade?

Divisional Championships: Ravens 3, Saints 3 [TIE]
Conference Championships: Ravens 0, Saints 1 [Victory Saints]
World Championships: Ravens 0, Saints 1 [Victory Saints]

5 CHAMPIONSHIPS TO 3

Since the 32-team league expansion, the Saints have been more of a championship calibur team than the Ravens. Even if you go back to 2000 (which I'm sure you do), the Ravens are still not as good as the Saints over that time period in championships since the Saints were NFC South champions in 2000 thus giving them a 1 title advantage in this clash of the champions.
I'm glad you counter my saints have a shitty defense this year with the number of championships they've won in the last 10 years with defense that that was still bad..if the ravens defense had an offense even 60% as good as the saints have had, they probably would have won at least on more super bowl in the past 10 years, just like I could probably say if the saints had a decent defense to go along with their offense they might have more than 1 super bowl too.

And its funny that RIGHT NOW the ravens have a better defense and offense than the saints do

[#1-norm-fan]

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This seriously needs to be addressed and this idiot ref needs to never ref a fucking game again.

Not only did he throw the hat right into the play... but Ogletree didn't even come CLOSE to stepping out of bounds on the play. That's not even a "poor officiating" thing. It's a stupid fucking human being thing. Either that or the guy was playing Ogletree in his fantasy football game and freaked out and could only think to throw his hat.

Sadly, as I was typing that last part as a joke, I realized that it's completely possible...

[Reavant]

I'm glad you counter my saints have a shitty defense this year with the number of championships they've won in the last 10 years with defense that that was still bad..if the ravens defense had an offense even 60% as good as the saints have had, they probably would have won at least on more super bowl in the past 10 years, just like I could probably say if the saints had a decent defense to go along with their offense they might have more than 1 super bowl too.

And its funny that RIGHT NOW the ravens have a better defense and offense than the saints do

so you make the argument that the saints did what they DID with a shitty defense and then state what the ravens COULD HAVE DONE with a better offense???

[#1-norm-fan]

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Seriously, nowhere near being out of bounds. There's no reason for him to even drop his hat like an official normally does, much less throw it in the field of play, much less right at the feet of a receiver.

I really wanna hear this guy explain what he was doing.

[Innovator]

Could have blown out Ogletree's knee there.

[RoXer]

I think it was Austin that went out of bounds on the play

[#1-norm-fan]

Wouldn't the official on the other side of the field dropped his hat then and not the one who was on Ogltree's side?

[Innovator]

Harbaugh Harbaughed his way into two extra challenges.

[Droford]

Jamal Lewis is going in the ravens ring of honor Thursday night 9 years and 12 days after going for 295 vs the browns

[FearedSanctity]

Wouldn't the official on the other side of the field dropped his hat then and not the one who was on Ogltree's side?

Doesn't matter I believe, any ref who sees it drops it. But that's just it, DROPS it. Not fucking tosses it onto the field, in the endzone of all places

[#1-norm-fan]

Damn, Seahawks! You scary!

[Droford]

Lol..the packers suck

[#1-norm-fan]

It's also possible Seattle is really quite good defensively... Just throwing that out there.

[Droford]

BS roughing the passer call

Poor Kevin Greene lol

[#1-norm-fan]

Must be the 4th quarter. The refs are calling a penalty on every play.

[#1-norm-fan]

Umm...

[#1-norm-fan]

The commentators are just holding back so much. lol

"I'm about to jump out of the press box on that play"

[Droford]

That should have been off pass int

[#1-norm-fan]

I didn't even see the defender's hands on the receiver. Unreal.