MLB 2007 Season Thread

[ClockShot]

:rofl:

Melky Cabrera gets a ground ruled double off the pitcher.

[YOUR Hero]

Brewers are sinking, I dunno if they'll be able to hold on. Be nice for them to be able to, but I dunno.

[YOUR Hero]

Just thought I'd remind everyone of the Jays trade last year of Shea Hillenbrand to the Giants for Jeremy Accardo.

[YOUR Hero]

Did the Padres dump 'ol Shea? Anyone know?

[YOUR Hero]

(19 saves for Accardo) :cool:

[The Miz]

Did the Padres dump 'ol Shea? Anyone know?

Saw Hilly on TV the other day.......... playing at a Portland/Tacoma game. He went 0-5 :(

[YOUR Hero]

ahaha, good.



Cleveland has taken over top spot in the AL Central. Detroit's now the wildcard leader.

[Skippord]

Rockies :love:

[Hardkore Kidd J]

Did the Padres dump 'ol Shea? Anyone know?

I think they did over the 2007 off season. Last I checked He was DFA'D by the Angels.

[Hanso Amore]

Toronto's young arms are really coming out.

[mrslackalack]

While prolly a longshot the Jays arent out of the WC race at all.

[VonErichLives]

Me too! Damon is one of my favorite players but unfortunately he's gonna kinda have to get used to being benched and taken out of the lineup. With Giambi coming back and DHing there's really no place for him except for a back up center fielder/Left Fielder/ pinch hitter.

Lot of money for a 4th outfielder...

makes the JD Drew signing not look so bad :)

Side note: anyones thoughts on the report that Steinbrenner is very sick... that an old friend came to visit him and all he kept saying was "nice to see you" or something like that...

Yes network being sold, 1.2billion dollar ball park, lots of money in players like Damon and Giambi...

me, I think A-rod opts out and they let him go, they try to dump Damon and have a rebuilding year, where they try and move old expensive guys for prospects and then once the YES deal is done, come back strong with a big free agent signing like Santata. in 2008/09. to open the new ball park.

[mrslackalack]

A-Rod finally got 500 HR

[MVP]

Hopefully the Tribe makes the wildcard over the Yankees. They're less scary in the playoffs.

[mrslackalack]

Tribe fans would be heartbroken if this season ended up like 05.

[The Miz]

D'backs pick up Joe Kennedy

[YOUR Hero]

Cy Young candidate now that he's in the NL :rolllllll:

[Hanso Amore]

I would love for the Jays to make it. After the Yanks they are my 2nd favorite team from Childhood up, but its hard rooting for a team thats contending with your boys. But it would be nice to see some change, and if they pass Yanks, Maybe they will do what I want and ditch the age for a rebuilding year. Overhaul the entire organization.

[Skippord]

I intensly dislike Ubaldo Jimenez

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Damn Yanks won but at least Hughes pitched pretty terrible

[ClockShot]

Hughes had a pretty good game going until he lost it in the 6th. Give him time, he'll be back to his old self in no time.

[Hardkore Kidd J]

Damn Yanks won but at least Hughes pitched pretty terrible

Yeah, I agree he pitched pretty bad. But this is his first game back to the MLB. And I think Hughes lost it in the fifth not the sixth. He's gonna be back to his normal self by his second or third start .

Hopefully the Tribe makes the wildcard over the Yankees. They're less scary in the playoffs.

Not with the way they've been playing in the playoffs for the past 3 years they aren't. I kinda wish Cleveland and Detroit can go to the playoffs. If we take the AL East which we still do have a slim chance to do. I can see both the Tigers and Indians going.

[mrslackalack]

Whichever 4 teams make the AL playoffs is gonna have a tough way to the WS.

[mrslackalack]

The Yankees offense lately has been insane.

[mrslackalack]

Bonds hit 755 and tied the all time HR record.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Haha Selig is obviously so disgusted</font>

[mrslackalack]

Lots of fans are disgusted as well. Selig is prolly like well 1 more HR for him then I can go away from this crap.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Selig has done a wonderful job of making Bonds look like the good guy in all of this because Bud's been such a prick about everything. Oh well just Bud being Bud.

[YOUR Hero]

I dunno, because not too many people are rooting for him. Sure Bud should be more impartial, but it's tough when it's a guy like Bonds. The Seattle announcers sounded disappointed when it happened. (I was watching the RedSox/Mariners at the time) The fans in Seattle mostly boo'ed the news, etc.

Anyway, now the big hurrah isn't the chase for 755, but the chase for 756

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Well I'm personally against the authoritarian presumption of guilt in baseball these days and despite Bonds' character issues it's never been proven that he's a cheater so I'm gonna enjoy watching the most recognizable record in North American sports get broken while everybody else cries foul.

[VonErichLives]

Well I'm personally against the authoritarian presumption of guilt in baseball these days and despite Bonds' character issues it's never been proven that he's a cheater so I'm gonna enjoy watching the most recognizable record in North American sports get broken while everybody else cries foul.

The other "issue" is baseball never had any rules against steroids, and knew something was wrong during the McGuire/Sosa year and did nothing because they needed the press.

Chris Rock was on HBO with Costas and had some good lines. "Can you get a ticket for speeding last week? no" "Can you commit adultry on your girlfriend, no, there is no such law you'd be break" and then to costas "If you found out (I forgot the name he used of a sports announcer) was getting 20mil more then you, wouldn't you take a pill" and Costas "damn right I would".

So, as much as I'm not a Barry Bonds fan, you have to blame baseball as much if not more then the players involved.

[YOUR Hero]

Bob Costas came about his physique naturally, without any supplements

[YOUR Hero]

Well Supreme it sounds like you've picked one poison over the other. Me, I don't like Bonds, I've been saying that since forever. Not because of the 'riods stuff although because I don't like him, it's another good reason for me to root against him. Taking all those issues away, he's a jerk, he's arrogant and I won't be rooting for him ever. If tomorrow he was cleared of any and all wrongdoings in regard to supplements, I'd just have one less thing to hold against him, but I'd not like him. LOL. IF he was cleared, could you imagine the trash talking express train he'd be on?

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Let's for one moment pretend that Barry Bonds is 100% innocent and the only thing he did wrong was associate with bad people. Nobody accused Mike Schmidt and Johnny Bench of betting on baseball just because they associated with Pete Rose. Look back at everything Bonds has gone through in the last few years and tell me that's fair. He might be a jerk but he's still human and I don't care how hard you try there is no way to turn off all of this and focus on baseball.

I just don't see why we have to convict him without proof of any wrongdoings. If he did cheat and we find out he did, then he can be punished. It's a whole lot easier to go from innocent to guilty based on proof than guilty to innocent based on a lack of proof.

[YOUR Hero]

Bonds reaps what he sows. Plain and simple.

[VonErichLives]

Well Supreme it sounds like you've picked one poison over the other. Me, I don't like Bonds, I've been saying that since forever. Not because of the 'riods stuff although because I don't like him, it's another good reason for me to root against him. Taking all those issues away, he's a jerk, he's arrogant and I won't be rooting for him ever. If tomorrow he was cleared of any and all wrongdoings in regard to supplements, I'd just have one less thing to hold against him, but I'd not like him. LOL. IF he was cleared, could you imagine the trash talking express train he'd be on?

See, I hear a lot of people say they never liked Bonds for the same reasons you list...

But then when I hear reporters, guys that actually deal with him they say "he's not a bad guy and I've never had any problems".

Be interesting to know how/why this bad reo he has started. Maybe it was a push reporter he wouldn't give a story too.

Kinda like, every athlete has someone who says "my son/daughter asked for an autograph and he said no"

What thet don't mention is said athlete just got done signing for 30-45 mins and maybe 100 autographs and at some point that athlete decided it was time to go.

[VonErichLives]

Let's for one moment pretend that Barry Bonds is 100% innocent and the only thing he did wrong was associate with bad people. Nobody accused Mike Schmidt and Johnny Bench of betting on baseball just because they associated with Pete Rose. Look back at everything Bonds has gone through in the last few years and tell me that's fair. He might be a jerk but he's still human and I don't care how hard you try there is no way to turn off all of this and focus on baseball.

I just don't see why we have to convict him without proof of any wrongdoings. If he did cheat and we find out he did, then he can be punished. It's a whole lot easier to go from innocent to guilty based on proof than guilty to innocent based on a lack of proof.

Didn't he admit to the grand jury along with Sheffield that he took the stuff from balco?

That being said, at the time it wasn't against the rules of baseball.

[YOUR Hero]

See, I hear a lot of people say they never liked Bonds for the same reasons you list...

But then when I hear reporters, guys that actually deal with him they say "he's not a bad guy and I've never had any problems".

Be interesting to know how/why this bad reo he has started. Maybe it was a push reporter he wouldn't give a story too.

Kinda like, every athlete has someone who says "my son/daughter asked for an autograph and he said no"

What thet don't mention is said athlete just got done signing for 30-45 mins and maybe 100 autographs and at some point that athlete decided it was time to go.

VEL, have you ever listened to him talk? It's not a rumour that he;s a jerk, he reminds people about it on a weekly basis. This isn't a I heard from a friend that heard it from a friend type thing.

Anyway, enough about Bonds.



Jays are teasing me with their good play of late.

[The Miz]

"Luis Castillo has been in pennant races his whole career with the Minnesota Twins so this is nothing new to him" - Joe Morgan

[YOUR Hero]

Joe Morgan, RIP

[The Miz]

See, I hear a lot of people say they never liked Bonds for the same reasons you list...

But then when I hear reporters, guys that actually deal with him they say "he's not a bad guy and I've never had any problems".

Be interesting to know how/why this bad reo he has started. Maybe it was a push reporter he wouldn't give a story too.

Kinda like, every athlete has someone who says "my son/daughter asked for an autograph and he said no"

What thet don't mention is said athlete just got done signing for 30-45 mins and maybe 100 autographs and at some point that athlete decided it was time to go.

From Game of Shadows:

"I never saw a teammate care about him," his coach, the late Jim Brock, told Sports Illustrated in 1990. "Part of it would be his being rude, inconsiderate, and self-centered. He bragged about the money he had turned down, and he popped off about his Dad. I don't think he ever figured out what to do to get people to like him."
Brock was considered tough, demanding, and distant. But even he found himself making a different set of rules for Bonds, excusing his objectionable behavior because of his tremendous talent. The coddling started from the day Bonds arrived on campus driving a new Pontiac Trans Am. When his teammates first saw the shiny black car, it was parked in the coach's parking space.
In 1984, Bonds and some teammates were caught breaking curfew, and Bonds mouthed off when the coach confronted them. Momentarily pushed past his limit, Brock blew up and kicked Bonds off the team. After he calmed down, the coach told his players he had suspended Bonds and asked them to vote on whether to let him return; Brock was confident they would want their best player back. But Bonds was so unpopular that his teammates voted to kick him off the team for good.

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Although Bonds eventually developed into an outstanding player in Pittsburgh, the only player in the club's history to win two National League MVP awards, the fans came to regard him as greedy, unpleasant, and a choke artist. [...] Because of his complaints about money and his demands to be traded, the Pittsburgh writers awarded Bonds their "MDP" award, for "Most Despised Pirate."
By the time Bonds got to San Francisco, people close to him swore he would deliberately say horrible things to the press, hoping to provoke outrage and kick up his game a notch. "My grandmother wants me to get her some wheelchair that drives like a car," he told The New York Times Magazine in one such over-the-top remark. "Why do I need to get her some wheelchair when she's gonna die anyway?" Starting with Spring Training with the Pirates in 1990, Bonds began telling writers and photographers to stay out of his face, and he used the same line with autograph-seeking fans.
Bonds was loosening up when he noticed two TV cameramen and a freelance photographer preparing to take his picture. Bonds was friendly with the still photographer, but the TV crews made him agitated. "Get out of my face!" he shouted, and brandished a ball as though he was going to throw it at him.
The altercation brought over the Pirates' press secretary, Jim Lachima, who tried to calm the angry star. "I'll make my own rules around here!" Bonds shouted, as the TV crews videotaped the action.

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The deportment issues that Magowan had blamed on Pittsburgh's insensitivity flared soon after Bonds joined the team. Early in his first season with the club, Bonds walked into a meeting of Giants pitchers and began pointing at the ones he had tagged for home runs, saying, "I got you, and I got you, and you."
The owner would call Giants equipment manager Mike Murphy and tell him he wanted Bonds to sign some balls. According to the source, Murphy would relay the message to Bonds, but the star would say, "I ain't gonna sign no fucking balls."

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Meanwhile Bell (girlfriend) saw less of the sweet, engaging side of Bonds's personality. He became irritable, controlling, and verbally abusive. And after beginning his training with Anderson, his very appearance had changed: Bonds had bulked up so much that he seemed like a different man.
Bell blamed steroids for the ugly changes. He would reveal his use of drugs to her in early 2000, in what had started as a discussion of his elbow injury. Although Bonds didn't tell her where he got the drugs, she assumed they were administered by Anderson, whom she called his "paid friend." Bell had gotten to know Anderson during spring training. Every year Bonds rented a big house in a gated community in Scottsdale and Bell would come down for a week before Bonds's family arrived. Anderson stayed at the house, too. Bonds had become so rude that the only people willing to hang out with him were his employees, Bell said.
[...]
Bonds became more quick-tempered. When his anger flared now, he would grab her, stand close to her face, and whisper intimidating, hurtful things. He insisted on knowing where she was every hour of the day or night. If he couldn't find her, he would become enraged, and he told her he would kill her if he found she was seeing someone else.
Her social life evaporated. He called her so many times at work that her boss began to complain. And his rages became increasingly violent. One evening at her apartment, Kim's crabby neighbor began tapping on the ceiling, complaining about noise. Barry became angry. He stormed out into the hall, shouted, "Bitch, quit fuckin banging on the ceiling!" and kicked in her door, causing the neighbor to cry out in fright.
Bell used a telephone answering machine with a tape cassette; when one tape filled up, she'd toss it in a drawer and put in a new ne. She bgean saving the messages after a few bleak occasions on which Bonds threatened to kill her, remarking that if he dissapeared, no one would be able to prove he even knew her.
Some reflected Bonds's gentle side.
"Hey honey bunny, what's going on?" he said in one. "I haven't called you in a couple of days because I've been stuck with one car and I've been getting dropped off at the ballpark, and once I get to work, I don't think about calling nobody."
On other messages, Bonds could be heard amusing himself, bizarrely.
"Hey girl, what's up?" he said in one voice mail of this type. "Kim, hey--who is trying to get in on my shit? No nigga's trying to get into my shit. Don't have me kill a nigga. Ha ha ha ha--later girl. I'm on my way to San Diego, but I'm still getting the pussy, ha ha! Welcome to the penthouse!"
In some, Bonds sounded disturbingly like a stalker.
"Kim, I just paged you, now I'm pissed," he said in one message. "Fuck it, I don't give a fuck what, you better just find me. Well, why don't you just page me, however, I'll find you. But if I page you, your ass better drop every fucking thing and call me back!"
Once, Bonds left a flurry of messages over a 10-minute period.
"I'll find you," he said. "Now my blood temperature is rising."
Minutes after that, he called again: "Kim, it's 6:36. Now I done called three times. You, I mean you can't even explain it, mother. I'm pissed, 'cause I already called you at work, so you're not at fucking work either!"
And on yet another occasion, Bonds said, "If I don't know where you are, then a nigga's going to kill somebody, good-bye."

[The Miz]

Actually it's all B.S. cuz Bonds sued them for libel...........oh wait

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Barry Bonds had to get a larger hat size due to natural causes

[mrslackalack]

LOL at Morgan

[mrslackalack]

No1 will get to 300 in a while. Big Unit might but hes 16 away and is considering retiring. The next guys on the list have to have at least 10 plus wins in 5 years but they are older pitchers like Moyer and Smoltz. Pedro could do it but doubtful because he would have to win 91 more games in his career. Olney said the next logical guy to prolly do it is C.C. Sabithia.

[mrslackalack]

500 HRs is not as big as a milestone as it was. Big Hurt and A-Rod did it this season and Thome is only 10 away from doing it and Manny is 14 I believe so its possible to have 2 more on the 500 list before the season is even over.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>TOMMY</font> :love:

[OssMan]

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h56/deafindieelephants/three_hundred.jpg

[mrslackalack]

haha

[Hardkore Kidd J]

According to Newsday:

The Yankees are continuing to remake their bullpen. Mike Myers will be designated for assignment today and veteran righthander Jim Brower will be recalled from Triple-A Scranton/Wilkes-Barre

Now I don't know the reasoning for this. When we got younger guys who can actually help us why did we sign him? Does anybody even know who the fuck this guy is?

[SammyG]

rofl @ how bad the Dodgers are right now. 4 games out. Terrible

[Innovator]

Myers always annoyed me, he rarely gets leftys out...THATS HIS JOB

[Hardkore Kidd J]

Myers always annoyed me, he rarely gets leftys out...THATS HIS JOB

Yeah, I wanted him out just about as much as I want Farns out (And trust me that's a hell of a lot) My main objection to this was who we got in place of Myers. I mean come on we've got Britton, Ohlendorf, Ramirez, and Chamberlain all rotting in the minors when we could have used one of them to fill Myers spot?

[Splaya]

The Tigers are picking a great time to slide these past 2 weeks :nono:

[Dragon]

Yeah, I wanted him out just about as much as I want Farns out (And trust me that's a hell of a lot) My main objection to this was who we got in place of Myers. I mean come on we've got Britton, Ohlendorf, Ramirez, and Chamberlain all rotting in the minors when we could have used one of them to fill Myers spot?

I think the main reason was because Brower can pitch consecutive days and multiple innings. Chamberlain can't do that right now and Ohlendorf just moved into the pen a while ago. I think Britton was just on the DL, not sure if he's still on it or if he just got off it or what. As for Ramirez I'm not sure. I think they just want to use Brower while he is hot; he's not young or anything but he's putting up solid numbers. I doubt he will be up here long though with those other guys waiting behind him.

[Dragon]

Yankees did what they had to do since the break in beating up on the crap teams. Hopefully they can actually show something this month when they start facing playoff contenders. The offense has been ridiculous against the shitty pitching but now they have to face some decent ones.

Starting today they face Toronto (never easy for the Yanks), Cleveland, Baltimore (another team that gives Yankees trouble), Detroit, LAAA, Detroit and Boston. Rough stretch there.

[YOUR Hero]

Toronto has been playing well but last time out against the Yankees they stunk. I'm hoping for a different outcome this time around.

[The Miz]

king gustav will lead us to victory baby!

[ClockShot]

Yeah, I wanted him out just about as much as I want Farns out (And trust me that's a hell of a lot) My main objection to this was who we got in place of Myers. I mean come on we've got Britton, Ohlendorf, Ramirez, and Chamberlain all rotting in the minors when we could have used one of them to fill Myers spot?

Bobby Murcer mentioned I think yesterday that Edwar Ramirez got called up again. But they sent Bean and Henn back down in exchange.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Damn Mike Meyers was the man at not getting David Ortiz out

[The Miz]

LOL @ Damon's dive attempt on that Thomas fly ball

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Looks like I am gonna see Matsuzaka and Beckett when I go down to Baltimore....swwwwweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet

[YOUR Hero]

king gustav will lead us to victory baby!

optioned to AAA

[The Miz]

can't be any worse than joe "9-8" blanton!

[FakeLaser]

Chamberlain has 18 Ks in 8 innings at AAA. That's like 20 K/9.

[The Miz]

Also ROFL @ Schilling and that one coach getting their panties in a wad over Moose hitting Crisp with his Moosemobile

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Wilt?

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Also ROFL @ Schilling and that one coach getting their panties in a wad over Moose hitting Crisp with his Moosemobile
While it looked pretty funny what the hell was going on? I only caught the very end of Coco getting run over by a 4 wheeler. I would have been heated if I was Crisp but he seemed to be laughing about it like he saw it coming or something. So what's the story?

[The Miz]

Moose was just doing his mid-inning routine on the ATV and he accidentally clipped Crisp. It was clearly an accident, Crisp and anybody else with a sense of humor thought it was funny but Schilling was all like I DID NOT PITCH WITH KETCHUP ON MY SOCK SO SOME ASSHOLE MOOSE COULD RUN OVER MY TEAMMATE

[SammyG]

LOL Schilling

[Hardkore Kidd J]

Bobby Murcer mentioned I think yesterday that Edwar Ramirez got called up again. But they sent Bean and Henn back down in exchange.

Good! I like Ramirez much more then Bean and Henn anyway. That guy has some sick pitches. Hopefully we keep him on the team this time.

And thank God we got on top of the Wildcard. Now they have to try and push themselves so they can get to the AL East title. Making up 6 1/2 games shouldn't be that hard.

[ClockShot]

We ain't on top yet. We're tied with the Tigers, and we've got the Indians going back and forth and Mariners with a possibility of making a run for either the wild card or the AL West.

However, the Red Sox visit the Angels so the Yankees might be able to gain maybe 2 games at the most if all goes well this week.

[Hardkore Kidd J]

We ain't on top yet. We're tied with the Tigers, and we've got the Indians going back and forth and Mariners with a possibility of making a run for either the wild card or the AL West.

However, the Red Sox visit the Angels so the Yankees might be able to gain maybe 2 games at the most if all goes well this week.

We don't need to be on top just yet. But I would think we'd be on top by early to mid September be that AL East or Wildcard. If Detroit loses tonight would that mean we'd have the AL Wild Card if the Indians don't lose? Right now Detroit is losing 4-2 in the fifth inning to the Devil Rays.

[FakeLaser]

Edwar is lights out, Torre once again proved he sucks at managing a bullpen by letting 2 weeks go by in between his apperances. Nasty changeup.

Henn and Bean are mediocre arms. I don't know why they insist on calling them up all the time when there are more capable arms like Chris Britton, Edwar Ramirez and Joba Chamberalin down on the farm. Bean and Henn are older (actually, Henn is only like 25) so I guess they want to try and get something out of them before calling up the younger guys.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Moose was just doing his mid-inning routine on the ATV and he accidentally clipped Crisp. It was clearly an accident, Crisp and anybody else with a sense of humor thought it was funny but Schilling was all like I DID NOT PITCH WITH KETCHUP ON MY SOCK SO SOME ASSHOLE MOOSE COULD RUN OVER MY TEAMMATEYeah that motherfucker will get his

http://wally.mlblogs.com/wally.jpg
YOURE NEXT

[Hardkore Kidd J]

Edwar is lights out, Torre once again proved he sucks at managing a bullpen by letting 2 weeks go by in between his apperances. Nasty changeup.

Henn and Bean are mediocre arms. I don't know why they insist on calling them up all the time when there are more capable arms like Chris Britton, Edwar Ramirez and Joba Chamberalin down on the farm. Bean and Henn are older (actually, Henn is only like 25) so I guess they want to try and get something out of them before calling up the younger guys.

Unless Britton is still on the DL I don't see why they don't bring him in and Joba in.Replace Farns with Joba or Britton. I don't understand how 2 young pitchers like them can stay off the team but a worthless piece of shit like Kyle Farnsworth gets to stay on. It just doesn't make sense. I heard Joba is going to be called up soon don't know about Britton though.

[mrslackalack]

White Sox claimed Tejada off Waivers but the Orioles wouldnt comply with it.

[mrslackalack]

Twins and White Sox are trying to get Piazza.

[mrslackalack]

The bullpen has to improve for the Yankees if they want to make a run in the playoffs.

[Innovator]

I can't wait for Joba Chamberlain to get the call.

[SammyG]

I can't wait for the Dodgers to win a game.

[Hardkore Kidd J]

The bullpen has to improve for the Yankees if they want to make a run in the playoffs.

Don't worry it will. We got Britton and Joba coming up to put in our bullpen. I think our bullpen will look pretty good without Farns and with Britton and Joba. If that happens that bullpen might look something like this........

Britton

Chamberlain

Edwar

Bruney

Visciano

Mo

If you ask me that's not a bad bullpen rotation at all.

And Innovator the rumors say that Joba is on a plane going to Toronto as we speak and might be able to be in either today and tomorrow's game. I'm hoping the rumors are true.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Did anyone else notice that Clay Hensley, the guy who gave up 755, was suspended for steroids when he was in the minors? That's pretty good writing there.

[YOUR Hero]

All I know is he was sent to the minor the day after giving up 755

[Hanso Amore]

Don't worry it will. We got Britton and Joba coming up to put in our bullpen. I think our bullpen will look pretty good without Farns and with Britton and Joba. If that happens that bullpen might look something like this........

Britton

Chamberlain

Edwar

Bruney

Visciano

Mo

If you ask me that's not a bad bullpen rotation at all.

And Innovator the rumors say that Joba is on a plane going to Toronto as we speak and might be able to be in either today and tomorrow's game. I'm hoping the rumors are true.


Yeah, it looks good, until October. I dont want to see those guys Pull an Ankiel and fold HARD. Although with a 4 Person rotation they might have another vet in the pen.

[Adder]

You guys are over valuing those guys IMO. If the Yankees make the playoffs it won't be because of their pitching.

[Adder]

Can someone tell me why year after year, Cincinnatti seems so willing to part with Adam Dunn?

I now he strikes out a ton, but he scores the runs, hits the HRs, drives in the runs, plays every day. Just seems like the Reds' management is stuck on the low avg and K's

Or is it something else?

[Hanso Amore]

Can someone tell me why year after year, Cincinnatti seems so willing to part with Adam Dunn?

I now he strikes out a ton, but he scores the runs, hits the HRs, drives in the runs, plays every day. Just seems like the Reds' management is stuck on the low avg and K's

Or is it something else?

I think it is that they are out of everything, and they know it, but Dunn has a ton of value because of what you said. A lot more GMs are seeing the Money ball value to players. Dunn will never be more valuable than he is now, and for a team that has no shot, he could pull in some good prospects. The guys is a lock for 100 walks, RBIs, Runs, and 40+ HRs. He is trash in the field, so to an AL team he is the Moneyball version of Big Papi.

[The Miz]

MLB.COM -- "Clemens looking to come a long way for yanks"

...eww

[OssMan]

Classic Braves, extra outs and million bloop hits followed by a bomb

[OssMan]

MLB.COM -- "Clemens looking to come a long way for yanks"

...ewwat least it wasnt Wang :o

[Dragon]

LOL man, I don't think the Jays will ever get over that "Ha" play by A-Rod. Threw at him twice yesterday, once at the knees. Then they throw at his knees again today and hit him.

Definitely gonna be a fight before this game is over.

[OssMan]

I will now watch the Yankees game to see this fight

[The Miz]

Jose Canseco makes a surprise appearance and beats ARods ass

[YOUR Hero]

Clemens just hit Rios. Of course Clemens waits until the score was out of hand. At least the Jays went after AROD early. I don't think this is over.

[YOUR Hero]

Nice play Damon... wait for the ball to hit the wall then chase it down.

[OssMan]

Of course this happens after I stop watching because that game was fucking boring and Shelley Duncan is the ugliest person ever

[ClockShot]

Bit of a makeover for the bullpen and bench. Jim Brower in, Mike Myers out. Joba Chamberlain in, Brian Bruney out. And Jason Giambi gets activated, Miguel Cairo sent out.

Oh yeah, hectic game today for both sides.

[YOUR Hero]

I wish the Jays played with more desire and more aggressively . I completely hate the whole money ball mentality they now employ. Give me a running game anytime. Doesn't just mean try to steal bases, but hit and runs, going 1st to 3rd, etc. put some goddammed pressure on the pitcher and the defense.

[YOUR Hero]

So what the hell is going on with the Orioles and Tejeda? Why would they put him on waivers and yank him back when someone tries to claim him? WSOX aren't commenting, but I don't care too much about their side of it, I want to know what the O's are thinking.

-edit- I have to guess they were about to trade him... I wonder to whom?

[Hardkore Kidd J]

Nice play Damon... wait for the ball to hit the wall then chase it down.

I still think he lost it in the lights when he was playing in Left. It can get real bright.

All in all great game. Clemens did a masterful job at pitching and we got to see Joba pitch. He really impresses me. I think he's gonna do big things for us. 2 scoreless innings with 1 hit and only 2 walks isn't bad for a reliever on his first day in the MLB. I'll tell you one thing what I saw from him today made me proud that we didn't give him to Texas for Gagne.

All though I would have been happy if we didn't have to send out Bruney. At least it wasn't Edwar again.

[The Miz]

Since when does money ball = not running and not being aggressive

[YOUR Hero]

when the jays play it

[mrslackalack]

I read rumors that Wily Mo Pena might get traded to the Padres. Hes cleared Waivers.

[mrslackalack]

Dodgers are on a big slump right now.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

So what the hell is going on with the Orioles and Tejeda? Why would they put him on waivers and yank him back when someone tries to claim him? WSOX aren't commenting, but I don't care too much about their side of it, I want to know what the O's are thinking.

-edit- I have to guess they were about to trade him... I wonder to whom?
I would think they were just keeping their options open. They wouldn't lose anything if he cleared waivers so why not do it just to see what happens

[Hardkore Kidd J]

I read rumors that Wily Mo Pena might get traded to the Padres. Hes cleared Waivers.

Do you know who Boston might get in return?

[mrslackalack]

Prolly a prospect they like

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Can someone tell me why year after year, Cincinnatti seems so willing to part with Adam Dunn?

I now he strikes out a ton, but he scores the runs, hits the HRs, drives in the runs, plays every day. Just seems like the Reds' management is stuck on the low avg and K's

Or is it something else?
Well he's terrible in the field and he hasn't seemed to improve his game much over his career so yeah he's got a huge bat but he's not a National League player. That and he's making $10 million this year I believe. The Reds aren't going anywhere with him so why not try to shake things up and get some talent?

[Supreme Olajuwon]

also suck it SammyG

[mrslackalack]

I read this big debate in another forum do you think Jeff Kent is a HOF?
360 HRs (most ever by a 2b)
1439 RBIs
.505 SLG
.290 AVG
2295 hits

[mrslackalack]

Supreme is 100 percent right about Dunn.

[Hardkore Kidd J]

Prolly a prospect they like

Yeah, I didn't think they'd get anyone to big for someone like him.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Bonds broke the record.

LOL a Mets fan caught the ball and was getting forced out by security

Hank Aaron on the video board congratulating him

We all know he juiced but so did 80% of the players out there. Prolly gonna cut the headline out of the paper tomorrow</font>

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Giants need to put Bonds on waivers and see who wants him

[The Miz]

OMFG OMFG OMFG HE DID IT!!!!!!!!!!!!! HES THE KING!!!!!!!!!

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

All Natural

[The Miz]

All you guys lied! All of y'all and the story have lied. Should you have asterisks behind your name? All of you lied. All of you have said something wrong. All of you have dirt. When your closet's clean, then come clean somebody else's ... What did I do? What did I do? What are you going to apologize for when you're wrong? This is old stuff. I mean, it's like watching Sanford and Son. It's just rerun after rerun after rerun. It's almost comical, basically. We've got alcohol that's the No. 1 killer in America, and we legalize that. You've got tobacco, No. 2 or 3 killer in America. We legalize that. There's other issues. It's become Hard Copy all day long. Are you guys jealous? Are you upset? Disappointed? What? ... I don't know if steroids are going to help you in baseball. I just don't believe it.

[ddpBANG]

Shea Hillenbrand opted out of his contract, and has been released by the Padres.

--------

I saw every one of his recent minor league games first hand, and the guy played like he didn't even want to be out there. He showed a total lack of respect for the game of baseball. :nono:

[Hanso Amore]

I read this big debate in another forum do you think Jeff Kent is a HOF?
360 HRs (most ever by a 2b)
1439 RBIs
.505 SLG
.290 AVG
2295 hits


As a 2B I think he is borderline. Only due to lack of Post Season success and his dominant period was short. But he has the numbers. If he was any other psoistion HELL NO. But there has been a lack of good hitting 2Bman in history, and this guy is really underrated.

[Hanso Amore]

Since when does money ball = not running and not being aggressive


Moneyball has never been about running. Stealing is a sin to Billy Beane. How much running has Giambi, Nick Swisher, Scott Hatteberg, or Kevin Youkilis done in their careers. Those are the big moneyball players. its all about OBP, patience at the plate, and keeping it cheap.

try reading the book. It makes it easier to comment on it.

[Innovator]

Moneyball has never been about running. Stealing is a sin to Billy Beane. How much running has Giambi, Nick Swisher, Scott Hatteberg, or Kevin Youkilis done in their careers. Those are the big moneyball players. its all about OBP, patience at the plate, and keeping it cheap.

try reading the book. It makes it easier to comment on it.How much running has Giambi done? He hurt himself running the bases after a home run

[The Miz]

Moneyball has never been about running. Stealing is a sin to Billy Beane. How much running has Giambi, Nick Swisher, Scott Hatteberg, or Kevin Youkilis done in their careers. Those are the big moneyball players. its all about OBP, patience at the plate, and keeping it cheap.

try reading the book. It makes it easier to comment on it.

LOL. You clearly need to work on your reading comprehension. All "Moneyball" is about is finding inefficiencies in the market. That's it. OBP was heavily featured in the book because at that time, Beane was one of the only GMs who saw the value in OBP and therefore it was a good investment to go after high OBP players. But since the book has been released everybody and their mother knows how valuable OBP is, now high OBP players are getting the big contracts. More recently Beane has not been able to afford the high OBP guys so he has had to find other inefficiencies in the market, such as defense. Do you think he got Jay Payton for his .327 career OBP? Or Mark Kotsay for his .338? No, he got them because they gave him one of the best defensive outfields in the AL.

Moneyball is NOT an on-field strategy. I don't know why you dumbshits still don't get this. It has nothing to do with not bunting, not stealing, and trying to draw walks. ALL IT IS is a general managing strategy in which you try to go after players who's value aren't recognized by the Red Sox and Yankees and therefore can be signed for cheaper. The Red Sox have figured it out now, getting on base is the single most valuable offensive skill. Players the A's could've quietly signed in 01 or 02 are now getting multi-year contract offers from Theo Epstein. That's why they have to look to other areas where the big guys aren't looking, and right now it's defense.

Yes, I get that Billy Beane doesn't like to steal or bunt. But that doesn't have anything to do with Moneyball.

So now that I've explained it to you, maybe you can read it again and make some sense out of it this time, mmkay?

[mrslackalack]

LOL at all the other ballparks booing when they were told Bonds broke the record.

[mrslackalack]

It was an important record broken last night, but ESPN is acting like this is the biggest story ever in the world.

[The Miz]

Boomer Wells released by Padres

[ddpBANG]

Boomer Wells released by Padres
Not quite yet. Everything I've read says they're trying to force him to retire. The Padres said he won't play again, for them, though.

Expect an official announcement by tomorrow.

[The Miz]

Oh well okay then.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Only the Red Sox and Yankees pay a lot of money for players I guess

[ClockShot]

:eek:

Wang got rocked early.

[Innovator]

:eek:

Wang got rocked early.Doesn't happen a lot

[Skippord]

The Rockies pwned the Brewers today

Garrett Atkins is oficially a beast

[ClockShot]

Doesn't happen a lot

Exactly my point. Must be a blue moon tonight or something.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Aaron Harang is by a wide margin the most under appreciated player in baseball. He was first in the NL in Ks and wins last year and didn't get a single Cy Young vote and he's having another great year this year all while playing in a horrible pitcher's park and nobody notices. Well I notice, Aaron, and you'll always have someone watching your back. :y:

[mrslackalack]

Harangs raw.

[mrslackalack]

Can you imagine all the pitchers the A's had at one time???????/ Zito, Harang, Hudson, Mulder, Haren, and Harden. Each of them in their primes would be a WS caliber Pitching squad.

[MVP]

Goggle-Rod gets way too excited on the mound.

[OssMan]

Nah Jeremy Guthrie. I bet 50% of you couldn't even name what team he is on

[The Miz]

Only the Red Sox and Yankees pay a lot of money for players I guess

That was obviously the central idea of my post

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

That was obviously the central idea of my postNever said it was

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Nah Jeremy Guthrie. I bet 50% of you couldn't even name what team he is on
This is his first full season. That's a little different.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Eeesh....Lester 3.1 IP 5 ER :|

[Hanso Amore]

Nah Jeremy Guthrie. I bet 50% of you couldn't even name what team he is on

You act like it is so amazing to know a simple fact. Pull your cock out of your mouth.

The guy was a 1st round pick, showed up in a book, so I msure more people know his name at least. The fact that he considered a bust until now also helps explain why he is unknown. I want to see him do it again next year.

Harang really came out last year, and is a legit Ace. I am nowhere near a Reds fan,but I really do like most of their players. They could be a great team with some Free Agent help.

I just went to a Norfolk Tides (Orioles) game when they played the reds AAA team (loisville). They have some nice AAA talent. Joey Vatto should be their starting 1Bman next year, and it would be nice if Jorge Cantu could regain his 100+ rbi form.

[Adder]

Sorry Miz, but you are wrong. Joe Morgan says MoneyBall is about station to station baseball with patient batters. Joe Morgan knows everything, he's clutch.

[mrslackalack]

I hope to see Cantu get back into his 100 plus RBI form myself.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Maine has been balls since the AS Break</font> :(

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

haha Clemens got suspended 5 games

[Hanso Amore]

<font color=goldenrod>Maine has been balls since the AS Break</font> :(

Still better than Kris Benson

[YOUR Hero]

haha Clemens got suspended 5 games

That's pretty funny. Josh Towers didn't get anything. That's why it's funny. I wonder if it's because Clemens lipped off to the ump, plus he's got a history of hitting batters. Anyway, he won't even miss a start @ 5 games.

[YOUR Hero]

actually come to think of it, the benches were warned after Towers hit ARod. Clemens hit him after the warning, so it's pretty automatic.

[mrslackalack]

lol at Clemens suspension.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

plus he's got a history of hitting batters.And throwing bats...HGH is a wildddddd drug

[YOUR Hero]

nah, benches were warned. I hadn't really thought it through at first. Also, HGH is not illegal.

[YOUR Hero]

ST. LOUIS (AP) - Rick Ankiel returned to the major leagues Thursday — as an outfielder.

After flopping in his attempt to rejoin the St. Louis Cardinals as a pitcher, Ankiel rejoined the team Thursday and was in the starting lineup against San Diego. The timing of the callup coincided with utilityman Scott Spiezio going on major league baseball's restricted list.
Toting an equipment bag, Ankiel walked into a clubhouse that was closed to discuss the Spiezio matter.

"I set a goal for myself to get back here, so I feel good that I reached it," Ankiel said. "I'm looking forward to reaching my next goal, which is staying here."

Ankiel was hitting .267 with a Pacific Coast League-leading 32 homers and 89 RBIs in 102 games at Triple-A Memphis. He also struck out 90 times and had a .314 on-base percentage.

Batting second, Ankiel was to face Padres ace Chris Young.

"He goes up there and takes a whack," manager Tony La Russa said. "He's aggressive."

Ankiel made his major league pitching debut at age 19 in August 2000 when he faced the Expos in Montreal.

"I was young and I don't think I understood the magnitude of what was going on," he said. "That seems like a long time ago. It's ancient. I'm a different guy.

"I was so young then, I guess we all were."

The hard-throwing lefty won 11 games and struck out 194 in 175 innings as a 20-year-old rookie in 2000 and was a surprise pick to start the Cardinals' postseason opener that season against Atlanta. But he became the first major league pitcher to throw five wild pitches in one inning since 1890.

Ankiel threw nine wild pitches in four innings during the 2000 playoffs and never really was the same after that. He showed some promise at the plate in 2000, batting .250 with two home runs.

Now, the Cardinals want an extended period to gauge Ankiel's future, and expect that giving him three weeks of playing time before major league rosters are expanded will provide a clearer picture.

The team didn't recall him earlier because Ankiel has no minor league options remaining and would have to clear waivers if he was brought up and sent back down.

La Russa said he planned on starting Ankiel the next "two or three days" and that he'd get plenty of playing time.

"We need to see Rick here and really assess how major league ready he is," La Russa said. "It's going to cost somebody playing time."

La Russa didn't consider putting Ankiel into the lineup against Young to be an overwhelming debut, reasoning he would see good pitches to hit batting in front of Albert Pujols.

"A tough assignment is to have a year like that and not get an opportunity," La Russa said. "He's facing (Brad) Penny tomorrow, he would have faced (Greg) Maddux yesterday and (Jake) Peavy the day before. This is the big leagues."

Ankiel, who found out about the callup at midnight Wednesday, didn't mind.

"From everything I've read, I thought I would be called up in September," Ankiel said. "So, this is nice. I appreciate them giving me a chance to start my career over."

Ankiel was 1-2 with a 7.13 ERA in six starts for the Cardinals in 2001 and wound up back in the minors. He missed 2002 with a left elbow sprain, then started 2003 in the minors and tore a ligament in his left elbow.

He returned to the majors in September 2004 and had a 5.40 ERA in 10 innings over five relief appearances with the Cardinals. After feeling a twinge in his elbow during winter ball in Puerto Rico, he announced on March 9, 2005, that he was switching to the outfield.

Following a 1-for-21 start, he wound up batting a combined .259 with 21 homers and 75 RBIs in 85 games split between Double-A Springfield and Class A Quad Cities, then spent the 2006 on the disabled list after hurting his left knee during a Cardinals intrasquad game early in spring training.

St. Louis, sagging after winning last year's World Series, hopes the left-handed hitter will provide a boost. Despite a 52-59 record, the Cardinals began Thursday just six games back of the NL Central-leading Milwaukee Brewers.

"Some of it has to do with what your club needs, and is there an opportunity there," La Russa said. "Unless you really needed Rick, it would be nice to bring him up when the time is right."



so far tonight: R. Ankiel (RF) 0-3 with 2 K's (no wild pitches)

[YOUR Hero]

Also in that game Joel Pineiro is the starter going for St. Louis. He's gone 5.2 innings without allowing a run (4 hits)

[Hardkore Kidd J]

lol at Clemens suspension.

I wonder who they'll get to fill Clemens spot for one game.

[The Miz]

ROFL Ankiel goes deep

[mrslackalack]

Theres always David Wells.

[Skippord]

:| fuck the Cubs

[Hardkore Kidd J]

Theres always David Wells.

:lol: :lol: Don't even joke like that. *shudders* Probably going to use someone in the farm hopefully. (Clippard, Chase Wright, Igawa, etc.etc.

[YOUR Hero]

ROFL Ankiel goes deep

Did he?!

Holy fuck man, that's seriously awesome.

[The Miz]

I don't think Joe Torre has the power to DFA Kyle Farnsworth.

[YOUR Hero]

Failed pitcher Rick Ankiel (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6320/;_ylt=AjFnmeFQDhQwFMA7TstVRB64u7YF) hit a three-run homer to cap his debut as a major league outfielder, and Joel Pineiro (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6549/;_ylt=AoRoeHAS1achcyfDe2e4zBK4u7YF) worked seven scoreless innings in the St. Louis Cardinals (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/teams/stl/;_ylt=AtjGCjPJBenlMqPdNt4Xxki4u7YF)' 5-0 victory over the San Diego Padres (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/teams/sdg/;_ylt=AuWpalvp3j9YawUvoMDnroW4u7YF) on Thursday night.


Seriously pumped on both those fronts.

Gotta love Ankiel coming back and having some success and I've always been a Piniero fan. Happy days

[SammyG]

Niiice, Dodgers second to last in the West now. What the fuck.

[YOUR Hero]

2nd half slide, like was predicted my man. Sorry, but the pitchers in LA don't seem to have the mustard to go a full season.

San Diego, FTW

[YOUR Hero]

2nd half slide, like was predicted my man. Sorry, but the pitchers in LA don't seem to have the mustard to go a full season.

San Diego, FTW

[mrslackalack]

I thought Torre likes Farnsworth a lot? Its prolly the reason why he hasnt DFA.

[mrslackalack]

At least the Dodgers had a win in extra innings yesterday SammyG.

[Loose Cannon]

Aaron Harang is by a wide margin the most under appreciated player in baseball. He was first in the NL in Ks and wins last year and didn't get a single Cy Young vote and he's having another great year this year all while playing in a horrible pitcher's park and nobody notices. Well I notice, Aaron, and you'll always have someone watching your back. :y:

Harang is awesome. I've liked him ever since he was with the A's and came on board as there 5th starter.

[SammyG]

At least the Dodgers had a win in extra innings yesterday SammyG.
So what dude?! We still suck ass right now.

[mrslackalack]

Any1 of those 4 teams can win the NL West right now and likely another team there could get the WC. Some are already counting the Dodgers out but I am not just yet.

[YOUR Hero]

The Dodgers are still in it, that's for sure. They gotta play a bit of desperate baseball though.

[Hanso Amore]

Good for Ankiel. The guy suffered one of the Biggest Meltdowns in league history.

This has been a decent season for comebacks.

Ankiel & Hamilton are great stories.

[The Miz]

Yeah but are they Moneyball!?!?!?!?!

[Dragon]

I thought Torre likes Farnsworth a lot? Its prolly the reason why he hasnt DFA.

Nah, pretty sure Torre hates him as well. He is never used anymore because of it. I have no idea how Cashman couldn't trade him before the deadline (at least gave him away).

[mrslackalack]

I was suprised at that as it was thought hed be gone by then.

[Hardkore Kidd J]

Nah, pretty sure Torre hates him as well. He is never used anymore because of it. I have no idea how Cashman couldn't trade him before the deadline (at least gave him away).

I think it's come up several times that Farns was going to get traded but then the other team would want the Yankees to pay half or all of his contract and that's what stopped them from trading him. Any information about Igawa going to the Padres? I heard the Padres took Igawa off Waivers but may want the Yankees to pay Igawa's salary.

[Hanso Amore]

Yeah but are they Moneyball!?!?!?!?!

According to me, No

According to you, yes!

Ankiel was a Pitcher, Hamilton was a Rule 5 Pick. That is kind of going against the normal trends and finding value in other places. So If your right, then these guys are moneyball! If your wrong, then they have a shitty OBP!

[The Miz]

What the hell are you even talking about. Do you really think there are multiple ways to interpret what Moneyball means. No, there are just people who can read and people who can't.

[Hanso Amore]

What the hell are you even talking about. Do you really think there are multiple ways to interpret what Moneyball means. No, there are just people who can read and people who can't.


And you are?

[Dragon]

I think it's come up several times that Farns was going to get traded but then the other team would want the Yankees to pay half or all of his contract and that's what stopped them from trading him. Any information about Igawa going to the Padres? I heard the Padres took Igawa off Waivers but may want the Yankees to pay Igawa's salary.

I hope Cashman doesn't just pawn Igawa off on another team if they can't get anything in return. Yeah, I know Igawa has been horrible this year but he can't hurt the team right now in AAA. Hopefully they just let him work things out because he has shown flashes where he was very good. On the other hand, if they can get a decent return for him I'd do it in a second but that doesn't seem like the case.

[Dragon]

Nice, really good game today.

Hughes - 6 IP, 1 ER, 4 H, 6 Ks
Joba - 2 IP, 0 H, 4 Ks
Mo - 1 IP, 0 H

Pretty awesome seeing Hughes-Joba-Mo in the same game.

[mrslackalack]

dang

[Hardkore Kidd J]

I hope Cashman doesn't just pawn Igawa off on another team if they can't get anything in return. Yeah, I know Igawa has been horrible this year but he can't hurt the team right now in AAA. Hopefully they just let him work things out because he has shown flashes where he was very good. On the other hand, if they can get a decent return for him I'd do it in a second but that doesn't seem like the case.

Yeah, I think they'd basically want us to pay his contract too. And we'd get no one in return. Send us Peavy or Hoffman and I'll take Igawa to Petco Park right now.;)

It was great we got the win. And Joba pitching 2 scoreless innings. It's really great they put him in there when it was still kind of a close game. Seeing him pitch 2 scoreless innings when we're only ahead by 2 or 3 runs is great for your second time on the mound. I really thought Carmona would be harder but we actually beat the Indians quite easily. I better send Peralta a gift basket for those 3 runs he helped us get early on.

Wow Baltimore just tied Boston they're 5-5 in the 8th inning after trailing 5-1. Getting 4 runs off of the Boston bullpen is kinda impressive.

[Dragon]

Gagne seems to be his old dominant self since going over to Boston lol

[Hardkore Kidd J]

Gagne seems to be his old dominant self since going over to Boston lol

Yeah, wouldn't it have sucked if we had given up Joba for him like Texas was asking for from the Yankees? BTW thanks for helping us move one game closer to the AL East title Gagne. Now, we're only five games back.

[FakeLaser]

Nice, really good game today.

Hughes - 6 IP, 1 ER, 4 H, 6 Ks
Joba - 2 IP, 0 H, 4 Ks
Mo - 1 IP, 0 H

Pretty awesome seeing Hughes-Joba-Mo in the same game.
Amazing.

[mrslackalack]

This is prolly going to be one of the most exciting finishes in MLB History considering how close all the races are. It should start getting heavy publicity now since Bonds broke the HR record.

[DaveWadding]

So how's the NL West basement treating you, Samuel? :wave:

[mrslackalack]

Well his Dodgers have won 2 in a row now.

[Splaya]

Fuck that Tigers game last night. A Detroit SP has won like once in the past 18 games. Truly atrocious. I'm at wits end with them

[The Miz]

Ankiel is amazing

[ClockShot]

Not a bad outing by the BoSox today. But they better take a good look behind them cause the Yankees are kicking ass right now.

[Hardkore Kidd J]

Not a bad outing by the BoSox today. But they better take a good look behind them cause the Yankees are kicking ass right now.

Around this time almost every year the Yankees have the Red Sox looking over their shoulder. Watch out Boston Yankees are in your rear view mirror.

[mrslackalack]

Anikel was awesome today

[mrslackalack]

If the Yanks make the playoffs I bet they hope to play the Indians in a series lol.

[Hardkore Kidd J]

If the Yanks make the playoffs I bet they hope to play the Indians in a series lol.

I wouldn't be so sure. Remember Detroit last year during the season we beat them a lot but once the playoffs came they kicked our asses. No matter what team the Yankees face it's not gonna be a walk in the Park.

[mrslackalack]

That is a very great point Hardcore as nobody gave Det a chance of winning that series but they took it 3-1.

[Splaya]

That is a very great point Hardcore as nobody gave Det a chance of winning that series but they took it 3-1.

The only ones that gave Detroit a chance was detroit fans.

[Dragon]

I don't see Cleveland being around at the end. I dunno, I know the Yankees are catching them on a down fall but they look awful in all parts of the game. No offense, not much pitching and horrible defense. I know its just a couple games here but even at the beginning of the season when the Yanks faced them they didn't seem too impressive.

[SammyG]

Fuck Ankiel :(

[Hardkore Kidd J]

I don't see Cleveland being around at the end. I dunno, I know the Yankees are catching them on a down fall but they look awful in all parts of the game. No offense, not much pitching and horrible defense. I know its just a couple games here but even at the beginning of the season when the Yanks faced them they didn't seem too impressive.

Yeah, by the next series some team in a slump is gonna have to start winning. Detroit is also in somewhat of a real slump and Cleveland not having to much pitching and horrible defense. Well next week the Indians are taking on the Tigers so I guess all in all one of these teams has to start playing well to beat the other team. Travis Hafner is on the DL do you think that could put the Indians in a melt down? It happened with Boston they lost Varitek for a while last year and they just went in to meltdown.

[Dragon]

LOL, I don't know why but someone just reminded me of the other week when we were down 8-0 in the second inning and Joe Torre brought in Mike Myers to pitch to one batter. I dunno, pretty hilarious to me right now for some reason.

[Dragon]

Uncharacterisic game by Mo but gets the job done. Starting off this stretch well with the sweep of the Indians.

[Dragon]

Gagne is a beast. Just gave up a game tying 2 run HR in the 8th lol

I'm still sure the O's will blow the game but still nice to see

[MVP]

Fucking Gagne

[BCWWF]

Based on how the playoffs usually work out, the teams will probably be:

Red Sox, Yankees, Tigers, Angels
Mets, Cubs, Dodgers, Brewers

And the World Series will end up being Angels and Brewers, or wahtever the least exciting matchup is.

[The Miz]

Dodgers aren't making the playoffs

[SammyG]

Dodgers don't look like they wanna win this division right now. Playing absolutely terrible ball.

[Hardkore Kidd J]

Did the Red Sox lose today? I am to lazy to look on MSN to see if they won or not right now. If they lost then Gagne is my idol.

[YOUR Hero]

Yeah, they blew another lead. ^

[ClockShot]

Damn. Kevin Millar with a 3 run walk off in the 10th inning to beat Boston. Talk about a burn.

[Hardkore Kidd J]

Damn. Kevin Millar with a 3 run walk off in the 10th inning to beat Boston. Talk about a burn.

You know it's kind of funny because it used to be the other way around. I mean at the beginning of the Year it was the Yankees relievers who were doing awful at keeping leads. And Boston had the strong bullpen. And now the Yankees seem to have the stronger bullpen and not giving up games. If this keeps up Boston is gonna end up like the Yankees did at the beginning of the season. Except this time it was Kyle Snyder who lost the game for them not Gagne. I didn't even know Kyle Snyder was even still on the Red Sox.

[mrslackalack]

Yanks are back

[SammyG]

Dodgers are back in the fucking gutter too.

[MVP]

The Sox have lost the past 3 series by 2 games to 1. Hopefully they come out of this funk when they face the Yankees and make up for lost ground. Not gonna happen if Gagne can't keep a lead and Snyder gives up walk-off homeruns to retarded Red Sox rejects.

[mrslackalack]

And the Yanks and Sox have a series coming up later in the month.

[The Miz]

I predict Jose Contreras is a Mariner by the end of the month.

[VonErichLives]

I'm not too worried about the red sox, they're hitting the ball and the guys blowing games aren't guys I expect a huge role from in the playoffs and are being used to give Okijima and Pappelbon some rest for the stretch run.

what does worry me is while Ortiz and Manny are hitting the ball and knocking in RBI's they're hitting singles/doubles not home runs, which could become an issue.

[mrslackalack]

good pt.

[Dragon]

Not a pretty game for the Yanks but a win nonetheless

Wang wasn't great today and either was Villone. Joba pitched another hitless 8th with 2 K's though.

Mo pulled a Gagne and gave up the tying run, first blown save since April but it all worked out I guess.

[ClockShot]

Yeah. The stars wern't aligned just right for Wang again. Hopefully his next start he'll be back to the same self he usually is.

[mrslackalack]

A wins a win though

[Hardkore Kidd J]

Yeah. The stars wern't aligned just right for Wang again. Hopefully his next start he'll be back to the same self he usually is.

Yeah, I think he'll be better I don't think 3-4 runs is really that bad though. It's not like he was horrible. All I ask from the Yankees is to win. I don't care who helps the Yankees. The starter, The Relievers, or the Fat beer drinking 30 year old in the fifth row section D in seat 4.:lol: As long as the Yankees win I'm happy.

And I can't wait for the Red Sox series. I'm going to my first Red Sox/Yankees game on the Thursday afternoon game.:y: I don't have really good tickets but the Tier section isn't so bad. Those Red Sox/Yankees games are extremely expensive. Well they are for a cheap skate like me at least.

I have one completely unrelated question does anybody know if Zumaya is on the DL or not? Since Detroit is our next series after Baltimore. I really hope the Yankees don't have to face him. He has some wicked stuff.

[mrslackalack]

But it still will prolly be an awesome expirence though. Yankees and Red Sox is sports greatest rivalry that or Duke/UNC,

[mrslackalack]

Rumors out there are that the Reds want Joe Giradi as their manager and that hes very interested in the job.

[Hardkore Kidd J]

But it still will prolly be an awesome expirence though. Yankees and Red Sox is sports greatest rivalry that or Duke/UNC,

Yeah, I know it will be that's why I'm so hyped up about it. I hope the Yankees win this game. The past 2 games I went to they lost. I'm sure I'll have a great time. That Tampa Bay Devil Ray game that Mussina pitched I think it may have been late June. They lost like 20-4. And I was at Camden Yards to watch the Yankees get beaten. They almost won that one. I love Damon but if hadn't hit that double play we probably would have won. Camden Yards is a really great Ballpark by the way. That was the first time I was there for BP and I got the best seats I have ever sat in. I was like five rows back from the players.

[The Miz]

WOOOOOOOOO just went to the greatest Mariner game ever. Big Sexy FTW

[YOUR Hero]

I have one completely unrelated question does anybody know if Zumaya is on the DL or not? Since Detroit is our next series after Baltimore. I really hope the Yankees don't have to face him. He has some wicked stuff.

Aug 14 Zumaya (finger) retired two of the three batters he faced in his first rehab appearance for Triple-A Toledo on Monday. His fastball topped out at 94 mph, the Detroit Free Press reports.

Recommendation: "It was his first time out, and he was a little rusty. You could tell," Toledo manager Mike Rojas said. "He looked fine and feels good, so that's the best news." Zumaya is scheduled to pitch again on Wednesday and will be limited to one inning or 20 pitches. He is on pace to join the Tigers as soon as next Tuesday.

[YOUR Hero]

.210 avg, but what? 19 HRs now? Sexson sure has had an odd season. Booed and cheered.

[Loose Cannon]

Phil Rizzuto dies at 89

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AhAF6kym2C.tuVSIAPkEPtk5nYcB?slug=ap-obit-rizzuto&prov=ap&type=lgns

[ClockShot]

Ugh. Grand slam puts the O's up 5-0 in the 3rd.

[ClockShot]

Wow. Did a little digging and it appears that the Yankees were ready to push the button to send Kei Igawa to San Diego, but brought him back in at the last minute. They wanna give him a second chance and groom him to try out the 2008 season.

http://x.go.com/cgi/x.pl?goto=http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2973955&name=FPT-2973955-081420&srvc=sz

[YOUR Hero]

smart move by the Yankees, imo. He's still young and there's no need after investing quite a bit of money on him to just dump him.

[OssMan]

YEAH O'S

[YOUR Hero]

omg, great catch by Granderson

[OssMan]

bases loaded for ALOU i bet he gidp's.

[mrslackalack]

RIP Rizzuto

[mrslackalack]

Whoa the Os came to play tonight

[McLegend]

Russell Branyan

[OssMan]

bases loaded for ALOU i bet he gidp's.Hey I should do this more often

[Hardkore Kidd J]

We'll probably miss him this time around but once the Yankees go to DET. we'll be fine I think. I hope Joba pitches some because he is compared to Zumaya in the reliever role. We just need to get the lead really early on.

[MVP]

Lester finally had a quality start (against Tampa). :cool:

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Mike Lowell

[BCWWF]

Why does Terry Ryan trade Castillo and nobody else? I am not questioning the trade of Castillo, but if you are going to sell, then actually sell.

Also, Stima was in Baltimore recently. It was on my newsfeed.

[SammyG]

RRROOFLLL Dodgers, 60-59 now. TERRIBLE.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

LOL Jose Offerman got arrested for charging the mound and hitting two guys with a bat in an independent league game. What a nut

[Hardkore Kidd J]

Whoa the Os came to play tonight

I wasn't really expecting a W. Karstens isn't to good I think we'll get them today.

[ClockShot]

LOL Jose Offerman got arrested for charging the mound and hitting two guys with a bat in an independent league game. What a nut

Shit I heard about that. That was against one of my local teams the Bridgeport Bluefish. A few people got tossed in that game.

[RP]

Dont fuck with Jose Offerman when he's batting.