MLB 2007 Season Thread

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>More Maine brilliance</font> :cool:

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Blue Jays giving it to the Sox right now, that 2 run homer in the top of the 9th didn't help :-\

Have left way too many runners on base tonight

[Loose Cannon]

The Yankees were not great in April last year and were beyond terrible the year before. So, I'm not concerned at all. They'll put it together in May.

[ClockShot]

Mo is back in early again?

[YOUR Hero]

About time the Jays win a game again. They had lost 5 in a row. The Jays have been lacking the HR power so far this year.

(hey, the Canucks just scored to tie Dallas :love: )

[Loose Cannon]

A-ROD 14TH WOOOOOOO

[FakeLaser]

A-GOD

[FakeLaser]

and another loss

[Dragon]

No idea why Torre pinch-hit Damon for Phelps (who has HR power) and not Melky in the 8th. Phelps has been hitting the ball pretty hard lately. Kind of ruined that rally.

[McLegend]

Phillies win 3 in a row. Woohoo

[SammyG]

Jesus Christ. A-rod is gonna hit like 80 HRs at this pace.

[Hardkore Kidd J]

While the Red Sox starters didnt throw their best stuff this weekend I would still take them over anybody the Yankees are going to trot out there. If the Yankees don't make some type of changes to their rotation I can't see them making much noise in the post season

I do agree that the Yankees do need to get some serious changes in their starting rotation. But, I think once they come off the DL they'll be fine. In a way this is good for the Yankees because I'd rather them go on the DL now then June, July, or August of this season. No offense to the Red Sox or anything but it seems like your implying the Red Sox could get farther in the playoffs then the Yankees. Once again no offense to the Red Sox but you guys have some starter problems to. Your starting rotation doesn't have the same problems that are as big as the Yankees and you guys don't have rookies or people who should be relievers starting(Igawa,Karstens, Wright) Our main problem is the relievers in all honesty. But I can't argue with you I know we have our problems with our rotation. And that's why we need to take advantage of trading some of our guys come the All Star Break (I would start off by trading Igawa if he doesn't start having some good games soon. If we could trade a nobody like Shawn Chacon then Igawa should be easier.) And that's why the Yankees need to do their best to get Clemens. Right now I'm just concerned about getting to the Post season.

About Hughes though I think it's to early to bring him up I say we should let him have one game. He's gonna be better then Igawa, Karstens, and Wright, that's for sure.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

It is too early to decide who is better between the Red Sox and Yankees. However, If I was a Yankee fan I still wouldn't feel too comfortable even with the guys coming off the DL into the rotation. I'd also be a bit worried about the most used bullpen in the majors.

I'm gonna assume Schilling and Matzusaka's performances against the Yankees will not be the norm, I thought Beckett did alright..pretty sure he only gave up 3 ER

[Dragon]

Awful. Wang actually gets into the 7th inning and was looking kind of tired so he is taken out with 2 men on.

Later on in the inning, bases loaded, lefty Crawford up. We bring in our big time lefty specialist Mike Myers...and Crawford gets a grand slam. Mike Myers has got to be one of the worst lefty specialists I've seen. He actually holds righties to a lower average and everytime he comes in to do his job, it usually ends up bad. An example is every single time he faces Ortiz.

[Hardkore Kidd J]

Awful. Wang actually gets into the 7th inning and was looking kind of tired so he is taken out with 2 men on.

Later on in the inning, bases loaded, lefty Crawford up. We bring in our big time lefty specialist Mike Myers...and Crawford gets a grand slam. Mike Myers has got to be one of the worst lefty specialists I've seen. He actually holds righties to a lower average and everytime he comes in to do his job, it usually ends up bad. An example is every single time he faces Ortiz.

You should be used to it by now.

Typical Yankee game for 2007: Chein Mang Wang comes out of game with a 17-1 score against the Royals in the 8th inning and Luis Visciano/ Kyle Farnsworth/ Mike Myers etc.etc. blows the game by letting the Royals tack on 17 runs.:lol:

I know I'm being phesecious but it seems like every game we have the starters do a good job and then the relievers come in and blow the save.

[Dragon]

Nah, the starters have been awful as well. Besides Pettitte actually. Wang is the first starter to get to the 7th in a while it seems.

Another questionable move though. Bases loaded, 1 out and we take out the pitcher that produces the most double plays and ground balls? I dunno, he was looking a little tired but he had the best chance of getting out of that inning.

Or at least bring in a rested Henn. Myers is probably the worst situational lefty to bring in.

[Hardkore Kidd J]

Nah, the starters have been awful as well. Besides Pettitte actually. Wang is the first starter to get to the 7th in a while it seems.

Another questionable move though. Bases loaded, 1 out and we take out the pitcher that produces the most double plays and ground balls? I dunno, he was looking a little tired but he had the best chance of getting out of that inning.

Or at least bring in a rested Henn. Myers is probably the worst situational lefty to bring in.

Yeah, at least let him pitch through the inning. The moment I saw the bases loaded and Crawford coming up I at that very moment said to myself"We're fucked Crawford is gonna get a homerun." And it's real sad you have to think like that when ever a reliever comes up.Yeah, but I'm willing to wait for Moose I think he could get us to the 7th once he comes back. As for Igawa and Pavano. Igawa sucks. And Pavano this day and age I'd be happy if he survived 2 innings without some "Muscle Pull" That puts him on the DL for 3 months.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Whoa fucking awesome game tonight. Damion Easley game-tying HR with 2 outs and 2 strikes in the bottom of the 10th and Endy Chavez ends it with a perfect drag bunt in the 12th.</font> :cool:

[FakeLaser]

Vizcaino's arm is going to fall off by the end of May.

[YOUR Hero]

OMG the JAYS are the best in the East.

-doesn't it work like that :?: I mean the Red Sox swept the Yankees and suddenly everyone is aghast at how dominant they are. Now the Jays do it to the Red Sox and I hear nothing.

I don't expect them to be talked as the best team. Come on, there's a ton of baseball left to play this season people.

[Boondock Saint]

Because they're the BlueJays.

[ct2k]

So is Hughes still pitching tomorrow?

[Dragon]

Yeah, he's still pitching.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

OMG the JAYS are the best in the East.

-doesn't it work like that :?: I mean the Red Sox swept the Yankees and suddenly everyone is aghast at how dominant they are. Now the Jays do it to the Red Sox and I hear nothing.

I don't expect them to be talked as the best team. Come on, there's a ton of baseball left to play this season people.I think people have been on big on the Red Sox because for the most part their starters have been getting into the 7th inning and the relievers have been doing pretty well. There has been a few hiccups along the way, but so far they look pretty good

But that is only so far and it is still April, I don't see anyone making predictions for the entire season off the first month. They've just been real good thus far, I mean everyone is talking about how crazy A-Rod is playing right now, but I don't think anyone thinks he is going to break the HR record or something.

[Hardkore Kidd J]

I think people have been on big on the Red Sox because for the most part their starters have been getting into the 7th inning and the relievers have been doing pretty well. There has been a few hiccups along the way, but so far they look pretty good

But that is only so far and it is still April, I don't see anyone making predictions for the entire season off the first month. They've just been real good thus far, I mean everyone is talking about how crazy A-Rod is playing right now, but I don't think anyone thinks he is going to break the HR record or something.

Well he has broken a Home Run record or two all ready. But if you're talking about getting like 50 or 60 +Homeruns this season it's probably not gonna happen.

Let me just point out in the Yankees defense that most of their starters really can't make it to the 7th. I mean we've got rookies like Chase and Karstens and a relief man named Igawa pitching. For the Red Sox it's different all of them are proven starters. For us 3 of our starters could make it to the 7th Wang Andy and probably Moose. God only knows how long Pavano will be out now. Our relievers right about now suck. All I'm hoping is that we turn things around or DFA Mike Myers. I swear to god if I was the coach he would of been DFA'D the second he gave that Grand Slam to Crawford.

[FakeLaser]

Why not? I could easily see A-Rod hitting 50 or even 60 home runs. He's hit 50 before. He's one of the best hitters of all time, and one of the best home run hitters of all time. There's no denying his talent. If anyone could do it, he could.

We'll be fine. There's no need for alarm right now. We had a crap April last year and I believe the year before. We just got Matsui and Wang back. Mussina will be back soon, and so will Pavano (hopefully). Hughes is the best pitching prospect in all of baseball. Pettitte has been solid and should continue to be. There's no need to worry about Rivera or Jeter's defense.

The pen is overworked, that's why they keep blowing games. Once Wang, Mussina and Pettitte (possibly Hughes and Pavano too) give the pen some rest they'll improve. I envision the rotation as shaping out like this:

Wang
Mussina
Pettitte
Hughes
Pavano

Shift Igawa to the pen as the long man, DFA Myers and sign Ron Villone, who tore it up in spring. Rest Vizcaino, Proctor and Bruney a bit. Let Bruney pitch in more pressure situations, he's money. He could even take Farnsworth's job if he keeps it up and Farnsworth keeps sucking ass. And hey, who knows about Clemens. Wild card right now.

The bats have been fine. A-Rod obviously is having one of the best seasons ever to this point but people overlook how good Posada has been. Abreu, Jeter (though not for power), Cano and Phelps are all hitting, Damon is coming around and Giambi is coming back huge. Matsui should start raking soon too.

April might be a wash but I think we're going to heat up soon.

[RBM]

Blah blah blah Yankees blah blah blah

Did anyone else laugh when Jeter got hit last night? Even the replays of it had me laughing.

[FakeLaser]

It seems like Jeter and A-Rod get hit in every game.

[FakeLaser]

Luis Vizcaino has pitched more innings than every starter except Andy Pettitte and Kei Igawa.

[MVP]

I would say that Tim Lincecum and Homer Bailey are the 2 best pitching prospects over Phillip Hughes, but he's probably in the top 5.

[Adder]

ARod will reach 60 HRs or more this year, barring injury.

[FakeLaser]

I would say that Tim Lincecum and Homer Bailey are the 2 best pitching prospects over Phillip Hughes, but he's probably in the top 5.
This is incorrect, sir. Hughes is pretty much the consensus #1 pick.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Yeah I could see him reaching the 50's or 60's....I don't think he is gonna touch Barry Bonds record though

[Dragon]

This is incorrect, sir. Hughes is pretty much the consensus #1 pick.

I think the general feeling is either Hughes or Bailey could be #1. I know some would put Hughes and some would put Bailey in the top spot. Lincecum hasn't been regarded as being better than either of them.

[Dragon]

Game rained out today, probably for the better actually. The bullpen gets a much needed rest and I think the rotation lines up better.

Apparently Hughes stays on for tomorrow and Pettitte goes Friday against the Sox. Saturday is either Karstens or Igawa and Sunday is Wang.

Who do the Sox have in line for the weekend series?

[Fenix122]

Pelfrey got smacked around again today...

[SammyG]

Heilman and Pelfrey are pieces of shit.

[Fenix122]

Heilman and Pelfrey are pieces of shit.

i agree :y:

[Hardkore Kidd J]

Game rained out today, probably for the better actually. The bullpen gets a much needed rest and I think the rotation lines up better.

Apparently Hughes stays on for tomorrow and Pettitte goes Friday against the Sox. Saturday is either Karstens or Igawa and Sunday is Wang.

Who do the Sox have in line for the weekend series?

Let's see since Pettitate got rained out today he's make his start against Dice K on Friday. (Which is going to be another rain out possibly)

And then on Saturday we get Igawa vs. Wake

And then on Sunday we have Wang against Julian Tavarez.

[SammyG]

Bonds 3 run shot in the first. Fuck.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Julian "The Worst Starter in MLB" Tavarez (according to FakeRazor)

Will be hilarious if he beats the Yankees lol

[FakeLaser]

He'll give up 37 runs but our bullpen will give up at least 38.

[Hardkore Kidd J]

He'll give up 37 runs but our bullpen will give up at least 38.

Are you kidding? Farnsworth and Myers could easily give up 50.:lol:

[Splaya]

Zumaya got roughed up last night against the White Sox. Thank god we had Todd "rollercoaster" Jones come in to save the game with the bases loaded no less.

[SammyG]

Dodgers 3 game losing streak wtf

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

He'll give up 37 runs but our bullpen will give up at least 38.
I really hope he goes like 7 strong giving up 2 ER with 6 K or something. It will be glorious, obviously I can't see that happening but crazy shit goes down when its NYY vs BOS

[Hardkore Kidd J]

I really hope he goes like 7 strong giving up 2 ER with 6 K or something. It will be glorious, obviously I can't see that happening but crazy shit goes down when its NYY vs BOS

Yeah, a lot of crazy shit goes down But Tavarez is the worst starting pitcher for the Red Sox. IMHO Julian Tavarez starting for the Red Sox really reminds me of what Igawa is for the Yankees. So I guess you can say Julian giving up 7 strong innings and a 2 ERA and 6 K from Julian may be setting your Heights extremely high. If I were you and had Julian on my team I'd hope he have five strong innings cause really Tavarez pitching 7 strong innings is kinda unrealistic. But this is baseball so anything can happen but really in all honesty the last game is really in our favor. One of the pitchers on the Yankees against one of the worst starters for the Red Sox is pretty lop sided. But anything can happen.

[MVP]

LOL Joe Borowski gave up an earned run in the 9th and it acutally lowered his ERA.

[FakeLaser]

1 hour til the Hughes era begins.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Wily Mo Grand slammmmmmmmmmm

[YOUR Hero]

Willy Mo can't catch

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

He can catch better then you

[ClockShot]

Yanks down 6-0. Hughes does 4 and a 1/3 throwing 91 pitches.

I think we're shootin' for 6 straight tonight.

[YOUR Hero]

He can catch better then you

nope.

and I can say that confidently.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

lol

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>The Yankees need to get this Joe Torre back:</font>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LNzW2bixCA

[YOUR Hero]

Stima, do you really think Willy MO and Manny for that matter are quality outfielders? They are very spotty. Is it so hard to believe that people outside of MLB can run down or catch fly balls better than major leaguers? Do you think Manny and Mo are on the team because of their defense? Nah man, I can play outfield better than they can. I can't hold a candle to them in terms of offense, which of course is why they are on the roster. Manny is imo, one of the best hitters ever to play, MO is there to hit HRs. Defensively, they can be very close to being labeled as terrible. (Manny has gotten better mind you)

[Boondock Saint]

Wily Mo looks to have gained some poundage.

[ClockShot]

Hmmmm. Interesting game. Pettite and Matsuzaka are having their innings from hell right now.

My god, is Posada asleep behind home plate. He's missing pitches left and right.

I don't know about most of you, but I'm hearing Kay bring up this home plate ump. and how we got him on watch. Thoughts?

Speaking of Pettite, there he goes. Bullpen is gonna work overtime yet again. Come on Dr. Proctor, one and out.

[YOUR Hero]

Sosa, HR #7 on the year.

Maybe he really is back.

[OssMan]

just back from rfk stadium and i am 100% tired of that piece of crap. easily the worst stadium in MLB, cant wait for new stadium, actually drove by and saw it being built, looks like it will be good.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

RED SOX

[YOUR Hero]

just back from rfk stadium and i am 100% tired of that piece of crap. easily the worst stadium in MLB, cant wait for new stadium, actually drove by and saw it being built, looks like it will be good.

Why do you keep going there instead of Shea stadium?

I thought you were a Mets fan

[Dragon]

Nice, 7 game losing streak. This game was just ugly and this whole team is playing like shit right now. If we are swept this weekend something is probably gonna happen.

[Dragon]

And we have Jeffrey Karstens going tomorrow to put a stop to this losing streak, lol damn.

Kind of missing Randy Johnson and his 200+ innings he gave us each year.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Red Sox own Marianooooo, they showed the clip from opening day 2005 when the fans cheered him, that was the greatest shit of all time4 Earned Runs

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Haha Mo gave up 15 ER all last year and he's already surrendered 9 this year</font>

[YOUR Hero]

Has his cutter lost it's bite?

[SammyG]

Dodgers scored 4 in the top of the 9th and beat the Pads last night :D

[Dragon]

Karstens obviously will get knocked around today. Hopefully he just goes a decent amount of innings. Not getting my hopes up for this game; Wakefield seems to be doing good this year.

[Dragon]

Wow, first pitch of the game and Karstens gets drilled in the leg by a ball hit by Lugo. He's out and Igawa is in now.

[FakeLaser]

I am so depressed right now.

[Dragon]

We need about a 10 run lead before we get to the pen.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

lol can't remember the last time I saw a starting pitcher wearing sunglasses

[Dragon]

He should wear the sunglasses every time he pitches. The couple games he has worn them he has actually pitched decent.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

This type of game that keeps me worried about the Red Sox chances, they should be hammering this stiff right now but they aren't. This is the type of bullshit that always helps the Yankees

[Dragon]

Lowell keeps giving us chances with his errors. Abreu has been awful lately though so I expect a strike-out or a double play.

[YOUR Hero]

Jays NEED to acquire middle relief. Fuck.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I am real surprised Lowell has already had 8 or 9 errors, I think that matches his season total from last year

[Dragon]

3-1 Yankees, top of the 9th now.

Not gonna lie, a little nervous about Rivera going against the Sox again.

[FakeLaser]

FINALLY

[Dragon]

Yeah, ridiculous how much we really needed this win. Igawa stepped up big time.

Karstens has a fractured bone in his leg, so he'll be out for a while though.

[ClockShot]

FINALLY

Ditto, my man.

My boss and I were tuned to this at work. He's a yankee fan also. He was like 40-50 feet away, and when I tuned in and listen then heard "Karstens is down on the first pitch", I immediately screamed "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO." He then came over and I told him what happened. He just chuckled and was like, "Can it get any worse?"

After Igawa's coming in and performance, I got a little more faith in him. Nice to see Bruney come back in. And Mo Rivera finally gets his first save.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

This type of game that keeps me worried about the Red Sox chances, they should be hammering this stiff right now but they aren't. This is the type of bullshit that always helps the Yankees
Word sTiMa34

[FakeLaser]

We're going to win the remaining 140 games or so, it's not a big deal...

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Rivera is not the same, might still save a lot of games..but not "lights out games over" like he used to be

[FakeLaser]

I don't know, I think he'll be the Rivera of old for the remainder of the season.

[Hardkore Kidd J]

You have to admit Igawa was mighty damn impressive. How long was it since a RELIEVER actually pitched 6 or 7 scoreless innings against one of the best teams in the major leagues? For the Yankees it's a Mariacle if the reliever goes 3 scoreless innings. I'm starting to think maybe the Yankees were a bit to quick sending Igawa to the pen. Hopefully the relievers can keep this up. Rivera may not be Lights Out game over now. But I think by mid season he will be.

[YOUR Hero]

MLB Credits Hank Aaron With 50 Lost Home Runs


MILWAUKEE—In what Major League Baseball officials are calling a "long overdue correction of a gross oversight," Commissioner Bud Selig announced Tuesday the discovery that Hall of Famer Hank Aaron had in fact accumulated 50 previously unaccounted-for home runs during his illustrious 22-year baseball career, bringing his once record total of 755 to an even higher 805 and putting the all-time home-run record perhaps forever out of reach.

"Hank Aaron is a hero, an excellent man, and a great ambassador for the game of baseball," Selig said during a press conference to announce the findings. "We're proud to have finally set things right, hopefully once and for all. And I have to tell you, some of the home runs that we discovered were just monster shots. One was hit off of [Pittsburgh Pirates pitcher] Harvey Haddix that went 576 feet, and Hank wasn't even that big of a guy. Just naturally strong and gifted, I guess."

Haddix was unavailable for comment, as he passed away in 1994.

According to Selig, a committee of sports journalists and baseball historians was set up during the off-season to investigate, with Selig's oversight, whether there was any substance to a rumor that began circulating last summer concerning Aaron having hit more homeruns than those credited to him in the record books. Though Selig said he couldn't recall the date the committee was established, he believes it was in or around the time he approved the San Francisco Giants' highly publicized signing of Barry Zito.

The committee's 30-page report points out several key factors that combined to increase Aaron's home run total. For example, in 1958, home runs hit during both the first week of spring training and those hit in pre-game batting practice during away games in the third week of August were added to a player's career numbers. In addition, home runs hit during the 1971 All-Star Game should have been tallied.

Aaron, coincidentally, did hit a home run in that game.

"We are here today to the right the wrongs," Selig said. "This is America's national pastime, and its players, fans, and all citizens deserve to have a record book in which they can take great pride. So if we didn't count Hank Aarons five-homer outing during 1964's famous 'Empty Stadium' game, I wouldn't be able to live with myself."

Furthermore, the report continued, a third of the home runs hit by players who participated in the television series Home Run Derby, a show on which Aaron appeared several times, should have been counted. In addition, during the second half of the 1962 season, balls that bounced over the outfield fence should have been counted as home runs, and foul balls that were hit behind the batter but cleared the netting intended to protect fans seated behind home plate were also home runs. That being the case, league scorekeepers now say Aaron had his best year in 1962, hitting 65 home runs—20 more than originally thought.

Though there has been some negative reaction towards the announcement of Aaron's new record, mostly from fans in northern California, the news has been received very well nationwide.

"This is the best thing that has happened to baseball in years," said New York resident Tom Plaitano, 63. "I remember watching Hank Aaron as a kid, and even though I don't recall a time when all home runs hit off Sandy Koufax counted for two, I don't really care. This decision just makes sense to me."

"The number 805 will go down as the most prestigious number in sports," said Selig, adding that there is a strong possibility still more of Aaron's home runs could come to the surface during this season, and maybe even the next several seasons to come. "It's not out of the question that Hank could have, say, 900 home runs by the time our investigation is all said and done."

"Either way, the all-time home-run record couldn't be held by a more dignified and honorable man," Selig added.

The committee's report has caused quite a shakeup to the list of baseball's all-time home-run leaders. Aaron, while keeping his record, is not even the biggest benefactor of the findings; as of now Aaron is first with 805, Willie Mays has jumped to second with 800, Frank Robinson is third with 798, Harmon Killebrew is fourth with 797, and Reggie Jackson, Mickey Mantle, Ernie Banks, Ted Williams, and Willie McCovey are tied for fifth at 796.

According to Selig, early results of another investigation may net Babe Ruth as many as 74 additional home runs, Mike Schmidt an estimated 124, and Ken Griffey Jr. a possible 200, while players such as Mark McGwire, Sammy Sosa, Rafael Palmeiro, and Barry Bonds will probably be knocked even further down the list.

http://www.theonion.com/content/news/mlb_credits_hank_aaron_with_50

[McLegend]

Cards pitcher Josh Hancock died this morning in a car accident.

Tonights Cards/Cubs game has been cancelled.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2853149

[SammyG]

FFUUUCK. RIP :( :( :(

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

8th inning double play-Rod

[Dragon]

Can't expect to win a game when Doug Mientewicz is the source of our offense.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I really hope he goes like 7 strong giving up 2 ER with 6 K or something. It will be glorious, obviously I can't see that happening but crazy shit goes down when its NYY vs BOS
Went 5 with 3 earned...not too shabby

[Avenger]

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/images/news/tributes/include_josh_hancock.jpg (http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/news/tributes/obit_josh_hancock.jsp)

:(

[ClockShot]

R.I.P. Josh Hancock

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>R.I.P Josh Hancock</font> :(

[FakeLaser]

RIP Josh Hancock

Oh yeah, and Joe Torre...

[RP]

Where does " Being a Cardinals pitcher " rank on the worlds most dangerous jobs list?

[SammyG]

Dodgers won in 17 last night. YOU KNOW.

[FakeLaser]

Where does " Being a Cardinals pitcher " rank on the worlds most dangerous jobs list?
lol, I was thinking the same thing.

[ct2k]

I know its still early, but I really would like us to start winning soon, 6.5 games back is not a nice place to be at any point in the season.

[ct2k]

KC and the Nats are the only teams with worse records:foc:

[FakeLaser]

Something is going to happen. We are going to win. There's no way Steinbrenner will stand for this.

[ct2k]

He'll probably have Cy Young, Babe Ruth and Lou Gehrig resurrected and sign them to 10 year deals

[D Mac]

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/images/news/tributes/include_josh_hancock.jpg (http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/news/tributes/obit_josh_hancock.jsp)

:(

Tragic.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>What the fuck. I get home today to find that El Duque is suddenly on the DL, Valentin too</font> :|

[ClockShot]

Yeah so Steinbrenner says that he has faith in Joe Torre and Brian Cashman. Yet the bats are working but the arms are not. Where's Ron Guidry fit in all of this? I put some of this on him.

Wait, bat wise, everyone is doing alright except Abreu. God I hope he doesn't turn into a bust this year.

Also, can't belive the Dolans tried to make a run for the Yanks. :lol:

[YOUR Hero]

Guidry's fault? Come on.

The Yankees are right where they need to be IMO.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Something is going to happen. We are going to win. There's no way Steinbrenner will stand for this.
lol


Not laughing because I think they are done for the season or something, but just the way you worded it is pretty hilarious

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

3-0 in the bottom of the 1st for the Sox...niiiiiiiiice I hate the fuckin A's

[BCWWF]

Watch out Stima, the A's are the best team ever (even though they aren't clutch).

Anyway, the Yankees have been screwed for a while because they rely too much on free agency. You can plug holes and make some improvements with it (which the Yankees have done on offense), but the core of your team has to be brought up, or at least with your team for a while. Wang is a start and it looks like there are a few young guys, but everything is out of order. Prime bats, young pitchers. I'm sure the Yanks will end up trading some future for a starter too, which just adds to it.

[FakeLaser]

BOBBY MURCER IS BACK

[SammyG]

Who is that roody poo

[FakeLaser]

SammyG, NO ONE ASKED THAT

Bobby Murcer is a former Yankee outfielder and for about the past 20 years, a Yankees announcer, one of the best in the game. He's been out with a malignant brain tumor, it's been a tough battle for him, and he's back for tonight's game.

[SammyG]

oh nice, good for him. DAT CUNT.

[Loose Cannon]

Look at little Phillip go

[FakeLaser]

5 innings, 4 K's, 3 BB, NO HITS so far.

[Dragon]

6 IP, 6 K's, no hits

[Dragon]

And yeah, good to see Bobby Murcer back. And not having to listen to Michael Kay.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Damn Papelbon proves to be human tonight :(

[FakeLaser]

This is the worst thing ever.

[FakeLaser]

I was all set to change my custom title to Phil Hughes and make a bugged out picture of him my sig.

[Dragon]

Jesus christ. The kid has no-hit ball in the 7th inning in his second start and he tweaks a hamstring? Nothing seems to be going our way at all.

[FakeLaser]

Phil Hughes is still God

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

lol Wow thought Youk just hit a homerun to tie the game..instead it was fly out to the warning track of the monster :(

[FakeLaser]

Man, I can't believe this shit, I really can't.

[Dragon]

Yeah, so ridiculous. Did they say anything about how serious it is or anything?

You have to start wondering about the new conditioning coach. I've never seen so many hamstring pulls and the like in one month. Not sure what happened with Hughes but just saying.

[Dragon]

Also, can Mike Myers possibly be any worse.

[YOUR Hero]

Glad to see AJ Burnett proved himself tonight. God. All the talent and potential. But you know what? As hard as he throws, that 96-98 mph fastball has so little movement. His other pitches just don't get thrown enough for strikes.

[FakeLaser]

We should have signed Villone.

[Dragon]

Well, we have Villone anyway in the minors so he could be brought up if needed. Not sure how he is doing or anything though.

As for Hughes, its a hamstring thing. Noone has really said an idea on the time he'll be out, but nobody seemed too optimistic about him being back soon. Its crazy though, never saw so many pitchers go down in one month, and having so many with the same injury.

[SammyG]

lol jesus, everyone here seems to either be a yankees or a sox fan. fuck.

[Loose Cannon]

TPWW is Northeast biased

[Adder]

JAYS.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

http://cbs.sportsline.com/mlb/story/10163067

lol they fired the strength coach...how was Hughes injury his fault? The dude just got called up from Triple-A, actually how are any of those injuries his fault? Outside of Wang's hamstring, the rest have happened to either often injured guys or older pitchers

Looking for a scapegoat, I guess

[FakeLaser]

It's not just because of Hughes, like the entire staff has been down with similar injuries.

[FakeLaser]

Hughes just planted wrong though. You could see his leg hyperextend in the replays.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Mike Mussina (hamstring) Older pitcher, I GUESS you could blame this on the strength coach?
Carl Pavano (forearm) Always hurt
Jeff Karstens (broken right leg) Got hit with a ball, did the strength coach not make his bones strong enough?

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I wonder if they will blame Kevin Browns injury from a few years ago on him too, you know when he punched a wall in the clubhouse and broke his hand

[FakeLaser]

Wang was also out with a hamstring injury. That's 3 hamstring injuries.

[FakeLaser]

Oh yeah, Matsui was also out with a hamstring injury. That's 4.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I don't see how Hughes could be blamed on him, I suppose they got an issue with Wang and Matsui (didn't realize Matsui was out with hammy injury)

Hamstrings happen all the time in baseball though, its just the nature of the game, you start and stop so much. I just think its funny they are trying to blame this on someone, its just a stretch of bad luck.

[Dragon]

The firing of the strength coach had more to do with all the players not liking the new routine and pretty much not wanting to follow it at all. I'm sure all the injuries didn't help his cause at all though. His last job was a country club worker or something and the last time he actually coached baseball players was something like 10 years ago.

This is probably the best move anyway, if all the players were questioning his stretching routines and showing resistance to the guy it obviously wasn't working out.

[Dragon]

I didn't read the article though so I don't know what they are saying. Everything I've heard has been that the players don't like the routine at all.

[SammyG]

Dodgers looking way solid early on.

[YOUR Hero]

So the 'spare no expense' Yankees hired a strengthening coach that was working at a golf club and hasn't worked with baseball players in 10+ years?

Wow

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Yeah you would think they could afford to get the top of the line guy to come in

They just replaced him with his assistant anyway, you would assume this guy would have the same style as the guy he was assisting...maybe not though

[MVP]

The Brewers have the best record in baseball right now. This year's Detroit?

[SammyG]

come on now. 27 games into the year... LOTS of baseball still to be played..

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

From what I am hearing though the Brewers are a legit team, not saying they are gonna be in the World Series or something but they aren't a fluke

[FakeLaser]

I picked them to win the NL Central.

[FakeLaser]

And I said they reminded me of the Tigers, if I recall correctly.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>John Maine named NL Pitcher of the Month and Jose Reyes named NL Player of the Month. :D First time two Mets have taken the awards since Dwight Gooden and Gary Carter in September 1985</font> :cool:

[YOUR Hero]

Brewers are a good team.

[ct2k]

Brewers have been decent for a few years, maybe this year they're finally putting the pieces together

[FakeLaser]

I can't even believe this. Actually, yes I can.

A source close to the right-hander told the Boston Globe's Nick Cafardo that Carl Pavano will likely require Tommy John surgery.

Cafardo writes that "preliminary indications are that the ligament to the elbow is pretty messed up. Not completely torn, but stretched." If Pavano undergoes surgery, he'll miss the rest of the season. He might not be ready for 2008.

[Boondock Saint]

What's going on, Dice-K, what's going on?

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Can't handle the Mariners. Maybe Ichiro tried to set him on fire during warmups.

[Dragon]

I can't even believe this. Actually, yes I can.

A source close to the right-hander told the Boston Globe's Nick Cafardo that Carl Pavano will likely require Tommy John surgery.

Cafardo writes that "preliminary indications are that the ligament to the elbow is pretty messed up. Not completely torn, but stretched." If Pavano undergoes surgery, he'll miss the rest of the season. He might not be ready for 2008.

Yeah, really wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't pitch for the Yankees at all again. Every injury seems to take him twice as long to recover from and not soon after another injury will pop up. Last year he was out a couple months because he fell on his ass, this will definitely knock him out for a while. A shame too because he could have made up big time for the last two seasons if he had just pitched this season.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Matsuzaka is pitching like MastuKAKA right now :lol: :lol: :lol:

No but seriously that was the worst first inning I've seen in awhile, hopefully he pitches shut out ball the rest of the way

[FakeLaser]

Swept the Rangers. I'll take it.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

lol Manny hit a homer in 8th and didn't leave homeplate until it was already caught by a fan.....probably one of the funnier things I've seen

[FakeLaser]

Man, if the Devil Rays would trade one of their outfielders for some relief help or a starter they can be a pretty decent team. They have a good closer, Kazmir is the man and this Shields guy looks to be the real deal. He's tied with Johan for most K's in the AL. They only have 2 good starters but that's more than they've ever had, and they've never had a good closer. Definitely a team to keep an eye on.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Dear Lord. Mets score 6 in the 9th for a come-from-behind victory against the D-Backs</font> :cool:

[YOUR Hero]

TBay is a team for the future, Razor. Mind you thatg future could be very soon.

[Loose Cannon]

ST. LOUIS (AP) -- St. Louis Cardinals pitcher Josh Hancock was drunk at the time of his fatal accident, and marijuana was found in the sport utility vehicle he was driving.

Police Chief Joe Mokwa also said at a news conference Friday that the 29-year-old Hancock was speaking on a cell phone at about the time of the crash early Sunday on Interstate 64 in St. Louis.


"Mr. Hancock was legally intoxicated at the time of the accident," Mokwa said.

St. Louis medical examiner Michael Graham said Hancock's blood-alcohol level was 0.157, nearly twice Missouri's legal limit of 0.08.

Mokwa said 8.55 grams of marijuana and a glass pipe used to smoke marijuana were found in the rented Ford Explorer. Toxicology tests to determine if drugs were in his system had not been completed.

An accident reconstruction team determined Hancock was traveling 68 mph in a 55 mph zone when his SUV struck the back of a flatbed tow truck stopped in a driving lane. Mokwa said there was no evidence Hancock tried to stop. He did swerve, but too late to avoid the collision.

Graham said the pitcher died "within seconds" of head injuries. Hancock was not wearing a seat belt, but Graham said the belt would not have prevented his death.

Mokwa said cell phone records showed Hancock was speaking with a female acquaintance at about the time of the accident. Mokwa said the conversation ended abruptly, presumably when the accident occurred.

Hancock, a key bullpen member on the World Series championship team last season, was driving alone. The tow truck driver was not hurt.

Hancock, who pitched three innings of relief in last Saturday's 8-1 loss to the Cubs, left Busch Stadium around 6:30 p.m. and arrived about two hours later at Mike Shannon's, a restaurant and bar owned by the former Cardinals third baseman who now is a team broadcaster. Police said Hancock left Shannon's shortly after midnight.

At 12:34 a.m. Sunday, the tow truck came upon a disabled Geo Prism and stopped behind it with its yellow lights flashing to protect the car, Mokwa said. A few moments later, Hancock's SUV struck the rear of the tow truck.

"If you drink, don't drive," Mokwa said. "Use a taxi. Have a designated driver. Call a friend."

Graham said Hancock had severe chest injuries as well as the fatal head injuries.

"There's nothing at all that could have been done for him," Graham said.

An estimated 500 mourners turned out Thursday for a memorial service for Hancock in Tupelo, Miss., recalling the pitcher as a goodhearted prankster. Among the mourners were Hancock's teammates, coaches, manager Tony La Russa and general manager Walt Jocketty. Hancock was buried Wednesday in rural Itawamba County, Miss.

Hancock made his major league debut in September 2002 and played for four major league clubs. He went 3-3 with a 4.09 ERA in 62 regular-season appearances for the Cardinals last season, leading the bullpen in innings, and pitched in three postseason games.

He was 0-1 with a 3.55 ERA in eight games this season.

Hancock joined the Cardinals in spring training last season after Cincinnati released him for violating a weight clause in his contract. He also pitched for Boston and Philadelphia.

The Cardinals postponed a home game the day of the accident against Chicago and haven't won since. They were swept in a three-game series in Milwaukee and had a day off Thursday.

[Boondock Saint]

Damn. :(

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Too bad the DRays play in the AL East, not saying they can't ever compete but it's gonna be tough for them

[SammyG]

Cmonnn LA

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I just heard some ridiculous stat on the Reds radio broadcast that in Greg Maddux's entire 21 year career, he has had a 3-0 count against a hitter 18 times. That is insane.

[SammyG]

Yeah that is ridiculous

[ClockShot]

Wow. We got a crazy game going on right now.

I can hear the boos all the way from The Bronx. I think we're gonna demand a head pretty soon.

[FakeLaser]

I just heard some ridiculous stat on the Reds radio broadcast that in Greg Maddux's entire 21 year career, he has had a 3-0 count against a hitter 18 times. That is insane.
Wow, that's ridiculous.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Alex Cora with a triple.....A part of me wants to see Pedoria keep playing since traditionally rookies have rough starts but Cora plays well whenever he is given the opportunity

[ClockShot]

The 5th inning from hell. Again.

[SammyG]

rofl Yankees

[OssMan]

lol Julio Franco homered off the Big Unit

[Fenix122]

John Maine for Cy Young

[ClockShot]

Damn. Tough game. Jeter's 20 game hit streak snapped, bullpen overworked, and a possible Johnny Damon injury.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>How the hell did "lefty specialist" Mike Myers manage to make it through 4 innings?</font>

[SammyG]

Too Many Yankee fans here, fuck.

[Dragon]

No idea, he has actually been much better against righties the past two years I think (definitely this year). This is the type of thing Torre has to use him for, not bringing him in to face Ortiz/lefties because he obviously sucks in those situations.

[SammyG]

LMFAO watch sportscenter, the highlights of the mets game. Someone hit a 2 run home run, and the announcer goes, A 2 RUN HOMO. Pretty rofl

[Dragon]

Good game from Wang. Had a perfect game through 7 1/3 before a home run ended that and the no-hitter. Ended up going 8 innings and 2 hits. We really needed a game like this from a starter.

[SammyG]

Fuuuuckk the yaaankkeesss

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I was watching that game while working tonight, some customer came in and was like "I'd like to see hit" and I was like "i'd like to see a homerun"

Then it happened

GLORIOUS

[SammyG]

Dodgers over the Braves today. We be lookin way good. NLCS fo sho

[FakeLaser]

Mike Myers is so terrible

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Tavarez with another strong outing last night, 6 IP with 2 ER


I am liking him as a starter a lot more then as a reliever, will be interesting when they bring up Lester. I mean he hasn't be outstanding as a starter, but he is so awful in the pen I don't know what they are going to do. Outside of one bad game against the Jays he hasn't pitched bad really, some games a lot better then others but he's been serviceable. There is no guarantee that Lester will be any better when he first gets called up.

Got Schilling going today, hopefully they'll be able to pick up the W.

[YOUR Hero]

The Jays look uninspired this year. Holy cow. I just want them to compete. Of course I want them to win it all, but Jesus at least put effort in it. They seem down, down because of the injuries they've had to so many regulars.
Also, Lind looks good. They were trying to trade Rios earlier in the spring to get another starter but couldn't get any bites. The plan was to replace Rios with Lind. I knew the guy was a top prospect, but wow. He's looking MLB ready already. Hard to put this guy back on the bench once Johnson gets healthy.
I see Rios being moved. He's a 'bigger' name than Johnson or Lind, so he's got more trade value. Too bad if I'm right, because I really like his abilities too. Kinda like when they traded the O-Dog. (my Jays favourite) he was a great player, but it was needed to move him for Glauss.

PS, The O-Dog still rules. He's gonna hit 15-20 HRs this year.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Holy shit, Clemens is a Yankee :|

Was just watching the game when suddenly they cut from commercial to show Clemens in a suit announcing from Steinbrenner's owners box that he's coming back</font>

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Have fun not winning a World Series Roger

[FakeLaser]

That was the most ballin' return I've ever seen.

[YOUR Hero]

Yanks had to do something. I bet Clemens soaked them good.

[FakeLaser]

Who cares? We're loaded.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Better then the American Bad Ass?

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[YOUR Hero]

Who cares? We're loaded.

I care.

Because it means more transfer money to the Jays. :cool:

(looking for the bright spot)

[Dragon]

Yeah, I'm sure Cashman just handed him a blank check, because he needed to do something.

When our rotation is healthy it could be pretty awesome.

Wang
Pettitte
Clemens
Mussina
Hughes

Could be pretty nasty if it could just stay healthy.

[YOUR Hero]

you forgot Pavano.

[MVP]

Goddamn, Clemens is a Yankee again

[FakeLaser]

you forgot Pavano.
Pavano is getting Tommy John surgery like the bitch that he is.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

They just cut to Manny in the dug out and he was rubbing Tavarez head. lol It looked so ridiculously gay it was hilarious

[Dragon]

Yup, like I said earlier, wouldn't be surprised if Pavano never pitches again for the Yankees.

If that does happen, 40 million dollars and 17 starts in 4 years. Gotta be the easiest 40 million ever.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

8mil per win....not too shabby

[ClockShot]

Clemens is back. What a relief.

In the next few weeks, I wouldn't be surprised if we get rid of Pavano. We'll probably move Igawa into the bullpen as a reliver. Unless he's gonna be interchangeable with Phil Hughes

[Fenix122]

Pelfrey is pitching...looks like another mets loss

[YOUR Hero]

not to jinx anything :shifty: but Clemens could break down. the guy's older than me.

[Dragon]

Pavano has no trade value at all so I think he's here to stay for a while.

[FakeLaser]

Pavano is going to spend the rest of his contract sitting at home collecting checks. Not much of a change for him.

[MVP]

Clemens is getting paid $28 million to pitch for less than 5 months. No one can tool on the Red Sox anymore about Dice-K.

[Dragon]

28 million but I'm pretty sure its 18-19 million considering how long he really will pitch. Not trying to make excuses, because it still is a shitload of money for 4 months.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Clemens is getting paid $28 million to pitch for less than 5 months. No one can tool on the Red Sox anymore about Dice-K.I really don't see how you could tool on the Red Sox for that move though, because the return on investment is going to be huge. Even if he just pitches average or whatever all the merchandising, advertising etc will be huge.

If this Clemens move turns their season around, then it'll be worth it - I personally don't see that happening though

[FakeLaser]

It will happen. Our pitching is getting healthy (something it has not been all year and it still isn't completely) and we're getting the boost of one of the greatest pitchers of all time. The pen will rest more and improve. The bats are there and the pitching has been on its way back. We've had 2 almost no-hitters in a week.

The Yankees have done exactly what they need to do to compete at this point. At the VERY least, Clemens will give us innings and wins. He has the potential to dominate.

[MVP]

I really don't see how you could tool on the Red Sox for that move though, because the return on investment is going to be huge. Even if he just pitches average or whatever all the merchandising, advertising etc will be huge.

Well yeah, but a lot of people are blind to the return on that investment.

[SammyG]

Make a seperate Yankees thread, jesus.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Why? So there can be like 3 other people posting in here?

[YOUR Hero]

I missed todays Jays game, but it looks like Burnett pitched a decent game... for a loss.

Shocked.

I caught most of the Phillies/Giants game and most of the Braves/Dodgers game. Both were pretty good. Mind you I really like watching baseball, so almost any game is going to be good to me. Yeah. Baseball rules.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

You hear about Freddy Garcia running into a lawn mower or something during BP and injuring his leg? lol priceless

[SammyG]

Dodgers 18-13. Best bullpen in the NL, Minus today.

[VonErichLives]

yeah, Clemens gets a pro-rated 28mil, the Red Sox offered like 18 and were under the impression they had a week to make a 2nd offer.

I would have liked to see him in a Sox uni, simply to see him "come home", but the Sox really don't have a SP need right now.

He will help the Yanks, but I wouldn't bet on a huge turn around.

Clemens is only good for 5 maybe 6 IP and the Yanks Pen has as many issues as the starting rotation, plus he's staring like a month earlier then he did last year.

I forget the pitchers name, but someone who retired at 45, said his arm was fine and his head was fine but his legs couldn't do that they did and thats where the power comes from.. we'll see if that effects Clemens.

[BCWWF]

Clemen's was going to the Yankees from the start though. His ties to the Red Sox are sooo old, and they didn't need him (as much, cause I mean come on, any team could use him).

But he was a Red Sock so long ago, even though he was arguably at his best there, his ties are all to the city of Houston and the New York Yankees. He had most of his team success in New York and he still is close with Pettite, Torre, Jeter etc. For him to go full circle and return to the Red Sox would kind of stab a lot of friends and fans in the back. I mean, after dominating with the Yankees for so many years, there can't be many Boston Clemen's fans left are there? But I'm sure there are tonns in New York.

[VonErichLives]

Clemen's was going to the Yankees from the start though. His ties to the Red Sox are sooo old, and they didn't need him (as much, cause I mean come on, any team could use him).

But he was a Red Sock so long ago, even though he was arguably at his best there, his ties are all to the city of Houston and the New York Yankees. He had most of his team success in New York and he still is close with Pettite, Torre, Jeter etc. For him to go full circle and return to the Red Sox would kind of stab a lot of friends and fans in the back. I mean, after dominating with the Yankees for so many years, there can't be many Boston Clemen's fans left are there? But I'm sure there are tonns in New York.

Actually, there are still a lot of Clemens fans here.

Word is his agents moved up the start date even though he's not ready yet because it's the only way they'd get the 28mil, that Houston had said they wouldn't give him the "flex schedule" he had.

I hope he makes the Yankees better and the word is he can make his debut the begining of June vs. the Red Sox... I mean, you couldn't make better TV if you wrote it!

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I think Clemens will hold up fine because he has always been on a tough workout regimen for his legs but I don't see the rest of the Yankees staff/bullpen holding up throughout the season.

[OssMan]

Sick of Roger Clemens, who does he think he is. Every year he is just like nah I will play for whoever I want and I will hog all the money of that team and I won't start until the middle of the season

[FakeLaser]

Sick of Roger Clemens, who does he think he is. Every year he is just like nah I will play for whoever I want and I will hog all the money of that team and I won't start until the middle of the season
I am with you on that but I will gladly welcome him back.

[ClockShot]

Hmmmm. Interesting.

Watching Sportscenter just now and on the ticker it said that Joe Torre is suspended for tonight's game. Scott Proctor suspended 4. Reason being for the bench clearing near fight yesterday. Don't see any Mariners suspended.

Here's the story. http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2863179

Also, Kei Igawa has been sent to the minors.

[Dragon]

It was for the game yesterday.

Josh Phelps ran over their catcher when he wasn't blocking the plate and didn't have the ball. Next time up to bat for Phelps he gets hit and rightfully so. Then when Proctor came in he threw behind one of the Mariners and was ejected.

[SammyG]

Brad Penny has 14 Strikeouts in 7 innings right now.

[Dragon]

Wow, today's game started out great until that 8th inning.

Matt DeSalvo pitches 7 innings of 1 run ball. Then in the 8th the ump makes one of the worst calls I've ever seen at 2nd base, the runner was out by a good two feet. That run then scores to tie up the game. 9th inning Mo gives up a home-run. I know bad calls are a part of baseball but this call wasn't even close at all. Awful.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

MARIANOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Dragon]

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e320/coniel/4feet.jpg

lol, awful call

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I've seen a call like that in the same position during a Sox game a few years ago except the guy never tagged Nomar and was about 2 feet away. I assume the ump was blocked by the players back and couldn't see the tag at all, in the Red Sox just assumed he made the tag and called him out...and in this case didn't want to assume anything?

Still pretty awesome Riveria lost another game though

[Dragon]

I dunno, it showed an angle from the umps view and it was pretty obvious. Guessing the guy just wasn't paying that much attention.

Also, starting to kind of see where Philly fans were coming from when they talked about Bobby Abreu before. All I heard was that he was kind of lazy in the outfield and afraid to swing the bat at times. Didn't really see it last year but its happened this year. He doesn't go out of his way to make catches in the outfield at all and is scared of running into the wall most of the time. He also prefers to bunt in most situations instead of swinging the bat lol.

I know he is in a pretty big slump right now and I'm sure he'll be fine this season but I do get where Phillies fans were coming from before.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Yeah I just saw the replay myself, pretty bad call but at normal speed it wasn't AS obvious as it was when it slowed down, but still should have made that one.

[VonErichLives]

I've seen a call like that in the same position during a Sox game a few years ago except the guy never tagged Nomar and was about 2 feet away. I assume the ump was blocked by the players back and couldn't see the tag at all, in the Red Sox just assumed he made the tag and called him out...and in this case didn't want to assume anything?

Still pretty awesome Riveria lost another game though

I always think of the playoffs with the yanks when there were 2 phantom calls and one of them he was like 3 feet from the runner... Jimmy Williams argued, fans threw stuff and delayed the game. Steinbrenner was in the stands and espn got to him and he blamed the fans reaction on Williams which lead the the quote...

"When Georgie-porgie speaks, I don't listen" - Jimmy williams.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Ouch. Glad I had to go to bed before the 5th inning last night. Piss poor defense.</font>

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Wow had no clue the Roger Centre's roof can open

[Boondock Saint]

Back to back homers baby WOOOOOOOOO. Lowell's my boy.

[MVP]

Does Beckett get run support or what :D

[Supreme Olajuwon]

so Texas Rangers catcher Gerald Laird is pretty much the ugliest baseball player on earth

evidence:
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/card/images/headshot_16616.jpg

[YOUR Hero]

Wow had no clue the Roger Centre's roof can open

I believe it was the very first of it's kind. 'SkyDome'

[VonErichLives]

I think Clemens will hold up fine because he has always been on a tough workout regimen for his legs but I don't see the rest of the Yankees staff/bullpen holding up throughout the season.

I think last year he avg'd only making it to the 5th inning, with the yanks bullpen that wont help.

Sick of Roger Clemens, who does he think he is. Every year he is just like nah I will play for whoever I want and I will hog all the money of that team and I won't start until the middle of the season

Can't fault him if the teams let him do it, there's already been some talk Cur Schilling may look to do a "short season" whereever he goes next year.

Also, for "hog all the money" trust me, the teams who were bidding on him won't be hurting from spending the money and the whole part-time schedule not just do the teams signing him allow it, the players go along with it.

I can't fault Roger for this one... i mean, if you could be one of the top 5 highest paid at your job and only work part of the year, and even then only part-time, why wouldn't you?

[BCWWF]

Yeah I remember growing up I thought SkyDone was awesome because I heard all these stories about the roof opening up, which was super unique at the time.

[BCWWF]

Also, VEL, I would think the Astros could find a better use for the money.

[VonErichLives]

Also, VEL, I would think the Astros could find a better use for the money.

I don't think Houston would have gone 28, probably 18-20 which prorated is around what they've done before.

Also, is it Clemens fault how much and what they want to spend money on? Who's ever told a job "no, that's ok, you don't need to give me more money".

Plus, in Houston it's not just trying to win like Boston or New York, Houston he helped put buts in the seats.

[BCWWF]

I'm just saying that in Houston is doesn't make sense to put down that much money for one player. In New York and Boston it is nothing special, but in Houston, if they have 20+ million to spare they should be buying two or three good players for a whole season instead of one for half a season.

[FakeLaser]

so Texas Rangers catcher Gerald Laird is pretty much the ugliest baseball player on earth

evidence:
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/card/images/headshot_16616.jpg
He is pretty ugly but I still think Miguel Cairo is the ugliest guy ever.

http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/sp/v/mlb/players/20070502/5586.jpg

[MVP]

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/images/baseball/mlb/players/7380.jpg

Jorge Cantu anyone?

[SammyG]

Tomko pitched a gem today. Dodgers 20-14.