MLB 2007 Season Thread

[ct2k]

Indeed, Its always puzzled me that Damon plays center so much

[YOUR Hero]

He had great speed and could track a ball very well. That helped negate his weak arm quite a bit, but now that he's getting older and is banged up, something needs to give.

When he's healthy, even today, he plays a good CF minus the weak arm.

[ct2k]

Yeah I guess, but his technique is just horrific, dunno how he got away with it all his career

[FakeLaser]

He's essentially Bernie Williams now.

[ct2k]

Bernie:'(

[YOUR Hero]

I read a rumour that the Yanks might shop around Abreu and Damon if they don't get their season sorted out soon. That's all well and good, but who is going to pick up underachieving guys that are paid so much?

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

How 'bout Dustin Pedoria? After hitting like .187 for the first month of the season he is hitting well over .300 now. It is good to see another product make it from the Sox farm system...Youkilis, Papelbon and now Pedoria

Hopefully he will make up from the lack of production from JD Drew, I really think JD Drew is gonna be the next Edgar Renteria in Boston. The good thing with Drew though is he won't crack under the pressure on D like Renteria did a few seasons ago.

Also I never think injuries are funny, but I must admit I did laugh when they announced during yesterdays game that the Savior Roger Clemens isn't gonna be able to pitch for about 2 weeks.

[YOUR Hero]

JD has no heart, he's as happy as can be with that big contract.

[FakeLaser]

DL Drew

[BCWWF]

J.D. L

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I mean I think Theo Episten is a great GM and all but there is certain free agents he just absolutely falls in love and he HAS TO sign them; Renteria, Lugo and Drew are the most recent examples. He seems to make great decisions otherwise, so I have tough time understanding why he over pays certain free agents that he loves.

Whatever though, the Red Sox really don't need Drew if Youkilis and Lowell continue to do work. Now with Pedoria starting to pick it up things are looking pretty good on the offensive side. Hopefully it keeps up

[YOUR Hero]

I think Clemens is holding himself back because he wants his first start to be a real weak opponent. He's now expected to start against the Pirates. It is *my thought (hope) that he's not got the stuff he thought he'd still have and is mentally unperpared to put it on the line.

HAHA I sound bitter. :cool:

[SammyG]

That sentence makes no sense to me. From the part where it reads it is may thought, until line. No sense. Anyway. Dodddgeersssss

[RP]

fuck yah Mark Derosa!!!!

[RP]

Overbay gone 4-6 weeks broken hand

[YOUR Hero]

Jays and injuries = FUCK!!!!!!!!!1

[ClockShot]

More bad news on our end. Doug Mienkewicz out 4-6 weeks from that collision last night. Phil Hughes gone till august.

[YOUR Hero]

fuck yah Mark Derosa!!!!

A stinkin' Cubs fan, eh???

[YOUR Hero]

Damon is the DH tonight, Phelps is playing 1B

[YOUR Hero]

Josh Phelps.

Now here is a guy that came up the minors with a lot of fanfare with the Jays. He just never blossomed. I'd like to see him do well at some point.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Thanks a lot TPWW, I went out to eat with various members of my family tonight and I am seen as the "Sports Guy" in the fam, so anyway I'm telling them about how Damon is playing 1B tonight and giving reasons and shit. Now they all probably getting home and seeing Phelps out there and thinking I am some type of asshole

[BCWWF]

Now I think you are an ass hole too, Stima. I ma de-friending you on facebook.

[Dragon]

Josh Phelps.

Now here is a guy that came up the minors with a lot of fanfare with the Jays. He just never blossomed. I'd like to see him do well at some point.

I've actually liked what I've seen from him this year. He seems to have a real solid bat and has come up with some big hits. His biggest problem is his defense, he's definitely pretty weak in the field.

[YOUR Hero]

He came up as a catcher

[Dragon]

Wow, so painful watching these games now. Pretty much waiting the whole game for the big implosion.

I seriously want to punch Bobby Abreu in the face

[YOUR Hero]

LOL :nono: he looked so terrible on the play.

[YOUR Hero]

"Where is Roger?!"

:lol:

[Dragon]

Not really sure if Torre is giving up on this game or what, but whenever Luis Vizcaino and his 7.33 ERA are in a game its pretty much a lost cause.

I've had a lot of confidence in this team making a run, but if Andy is hurt that really puts a huge hole in that plan.

[FakeLaser]

Terrible, absolutely terrible.

[mrslackalack]

Anyone think that the Yankees might go after a 1b like Helton or Big Tex as has been speculated?

[OssMan]

please tell me the yankees are losing right now.

[YOUR Hero]

More than ever now, imo

[OssMan]

lol 5 run inning

[OssMan]

TEAM ROCKET BLASTING OFF AGAIN

[Dragon]

Helton would be the worst thing to do. A huge contract going until he's in his late 30's. It would be Giambi part 2.

As for Teixera, any talks for him would probably start with a couple top prospects (Hughes, Tabata) so probably not. If they can somehow get him without selling the farm they should but I don't see that happening.

[FakeLaser]

I'd give up Tabata for Teixieria but Hughes would be UNFORGIVABLE.

[Dragon]

If it was Tabata and some lesser prospects I would probably do that. As long as the Yanks lock up Teixera. Gotta think other teams would be willing to give up a lot more though.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

"Where is Roger?!"

:lol:
WOOOOOOOOOO

[Dragon]

Joe Morgan is so awful. Earlier in the game a big point he was trying to make was that looking at a pitchers win/loss record was the absolute best way to judge how good a pitcher is. I never expect him to top other stupid stuff he has said, but he somehow does.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

lol yeah I heard that too, however he did make a good point about the A-Rod yelling thing. I mean it's not that much different then the 2nd baseman trying to deke people out and shit. A-Rod is still a fag though :y:

[mrslackalack]

Guess Morgan cant spell ERA or K.

[YOUR Hero]

Gimme 'whip' over era any day.

It's not like wins isn't a valid category, but it's really a result of other categories plus what your team does offensively.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Morgan again lol, really made a point to show how shallow Manny was playing in left.....except he always plays that shallow. Why would you play deep with the Green Monster? What do you gain by doing that? A better view of it hitting off the wall?

[mrslackalack]

It seems Yankee fans look at Joe Torre like What have you done for me lately? just like UK basketball fans did with Tubby Smith.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

For the record I am huge fan of judging things off of a pitchers ERA. Giving up runs is what it is all about to me.

[mrslackalack]

Gimme 'whip' over era any day.

It's not like wins isn't a valid category, but it's really a result of other categories plus what your team does offensively.

Forgot all about WHIP

[Dragon]

Yeah, Morgan has been complaining about where Manny has been playing the whole game. Yet Manny plays every ball off the monster perfectly.

Although Joe likes to assume he's right when a ball is hit right in the corner. He said Manny had no chance at it because he was playing shallow lol.

[Dragon]

Looking at ERA has always struck me as the best way to look too. I dunno, I guess it does depend on defense some but I still think its the best thing to look at. You should take into account other stuff too but I always seem to look at ERA first.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I am pissed off this game isn't being shown on NESN. Jerry Remy >>>>>>>>>>> Joe Morgan

[MVP]

Yeah WHIP is really where you seperate good pitchers and great pitchers. Wasn't Johan Santana's WHIP 0.98 last year?

[Dragon]

Never seen Manny hustle like that. LOL @ the slide though

[YOUR Hero]

Manny was flying

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

lol that was great

[mrslackalack]

lol at Morgan wondering if it was the Red Sox more clutch or the relief pitching as why this season they have outscored the Yankees in the later innings.

[Dragon]

Yankees on ESPN tomorrow night too.

Even as a Yankees fan I can admit that they are getting too much time on the baseball nights on ESPN. Also, not very fun seeing the Yankees embarass themselves on national TV every week lol.

I do remember that this was supposed to be Roger Clemens comeback, but now everyone gets to see the great Matt DeSalvo.

[Dragon]

lol at Morgan wondering if it was the Red Sox more clutch or the relief pitching as why this season they have outscored the Yankees in the later innings.

Haha yeah. If he looked at some of the stats for our pen or seen any game he would realize that we don't set any team down easily in the later innings.

[MVP]

I can imagine the Giants will be clogging up national TV once Bonds gets a few HR shy of the record.

[mrslackalack]

Yankees on ESPN tomorrow night too.

Even as a Yankees fan I can admit that they are getting too much time on the baseball nights on ESPN. Also, not very fun seeing the Yankees embarass themselves on national TV every week lol.

I do remember that this was supposed to be Roger Clemens comeback, but now everyone gets to see the great Matt DeSalvo.

A matchup of possbily the 2 biggest dissapointments in baseball this season.

[Dragon]

Pretty awful when there is a man on third with no outs and you expect him not to score.

[YOUR Hero]

Did the Rays will tonight? I think if they did and the Yankees loose, that puts the Yankees in last place in the AL East

[Dragon]

Yeah, the Rays won. Can't believe how awful the East is this year. I never would have thought Boston would be the only above .500 team in June.

[mrslackalack]

I was checking the Rays score and found the breaking news that Billy Donovan wants out of his Magic contract and wants back with the Gators

[Triple A]

YES

[Nervous Ferret]

A-rod hits a meaningful homerun wtf??

[Dragon]

Wow. Did not see that coming.

Mo gets to face Ortiz, Ramirez and Youkilis now. Should be interesting.

[YOUR Hero]

Been a good game. Lets see if the Sox can respond.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I woulda taken a homer by anyone other then that homo

[Dragon]

That ball Ortiz hit was way to close for my liking

Pretty stressful inning right now

[YOUR Hero]

I think gonna get a rain delay if the Sox tie it up

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

GOD DAMN IT

Thought for sure Ortiz hit that one out.

[FakeLaser]

I chugged a beer as soon as A-Rod hit that blast.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

The Yankees won't be good until they get Griffey so they might as well speed up the process.

[ClockShot]

It's weird.

We just did got through our 4th series with Boston and it's only june. However, we have yet to play Detroit and Kansas City yet.

Have all the other teams in MLB played all teams in their league at least once yet?

[Supreme Olajuwon]

No that's common for every team I think. The Reds haven't played the Mets, the Braves, the Marlins or the Giants yet.

[FakeLaser]

An Abreu for Dye rumor is going around now. I don't think it will happen and I really wouldn't want Jermaine Dye, though Abreu has been garbage thus far. He seems like he may be heating up a little though.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

It's weird.

We just did got through our 4th series with Boston and it's only june. However, we have yet to play Detroit and Kansas City yet.

Have all the other teams in MLB played all teams in their league at least once yet?
Yea you'd think they would spread it out, now the Sox/Yanks don't play for like another 3 months and will only be facing each other 6 more times...aftering facing each other 13 times in the first 2 months of the season.

[FakeLaser]

Matt Desalvo really really does not belong in the major leagues.

[Dragon]

Yeah seriously. I hope this is the end of that experiment. His last three "starts" have added up to about 9 innings.

[ClockShot]

Yeah seriously. I hope this is the end of that experiment. His last three "starts" have added up to about 9 innings.

And here I belived you when you said Kei Igawa was gonna get called up. I feel more at ease with him at the hill than DeSalvo.

[YOUR Hero]

Garland going to pitch a complete game?

[OssMan]

http://vindicare.hautetfort.com/images/medium_Garland01.png

[mrslackalack]

The Yankees won't be good until they get Griffey so they might as well speed up the process.

Ha, believe it or not the Seinfield episode where George hopes to become the asst. GM of the Yankees aired today where he said if he got the job he knew how the Yankees could get Griffey and Bonds.

[mrslackalack]

Desalvo was awful tonight.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

For those who are for the WHIP over ERA, does extra base hits come into play for the WHIP? I mean, pitchers could have similar WHIP but then one dude could give up 10 more homers but have less overall hits/walks..no?

[mrslackalack]

Heard an interesting trade rumor

The Astros get Adam Dunn

The Reds get Brad Lidge and a couple pitching prospects

[mrslackalack]

Here is some basic info on WHIP http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WHIP

[BCWWF]

ERA is clearly the stat in terms of pitchers. WHIP supplements a great pitcher, but if you consistantly let guys on base but then clamp down
and don't let them score, you are still an effective pitcher.

[YOUR Hero]

For those who are for the WHIP over ERA, does extra base hits come into play for the WHIP? I mean, pitchers could have similar WHIP but then one dude could give up 10 more homers but have less overall hits/walks..no?

There are good debates both ways. ERA however allows a pitcher (in extreme cases) to have batters hit HR after HR after HR and not effect his ERA if a case happens where there are 2 outs and then there is a fielding error. What I like about WHIP is it doesn't account for anything other than what the pitcher does vs the batters.

[YOUR Hero]

..I can see someone coming up with a revised WHIP standard that takes into account what type of hit a pitcher gives up. Kinda like some type of Slugging%

[mrslackalack]

Yeah you can make up for your ERA but not your WHIP

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Is there even a need to determine which stat is more important? The top two career ERA pitchers are also the top two career WHIP pitchers. I'd say the stats are pretty balanced.

[YOUR Hero]

well you know baseball and it's stats...

[Supreme Olajuwon]

What I like about WHIP is it doesn't account for anything other than what the pitcher does vs the batters.
I dunno if I necessarily agree with this. A pitcher with an athletic, well-coached defense behind him is going to have a better WHIP than if he had a slow team that was constantly out of position and couldn't make the close plays that will be scored as hits more often than errors.

[YOUR Hero]

all fielders are exactlky the same.








(good point)

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Hey, my Jays were down 8-1 at one point and also down 11-6 going into the bottom of the 9th. They scored 6 runs, the last on a bases loaded walk. That means they won, btw.

[mrslackalack]

Its a shame that with all the talent the Jays have had in the past several years that they havent clinched a playoff birth. I know they are in the AL East with the Red Sox and Yanks, but you think they would at least get a WC berth with the talent they have had in the past several years.

[MVP]

Well the Jays finished in 2nd last year, and could have given the Yankees a run for their money in September, but Halladay was hurt and I forget if Burnett was on the DL too. Either way, their rotation was hurting and it was really difficult to beat Detroit and Minnesota when they were fighting for AL Central and wild card spots.

[YOUR Hero]

Pitching injuries hurt them last year. This year more of the same PLUS position player injuries.

[ClockShot]

Congrats. to Randy Johnson. #2 on all time strikeouts.

[mrslackalack]

Yeah injuries have nagged the Jays in recent years.

[mrslackalack]

Thing is Big Unit might fall back to #3 if Clemens has more Ks than him this season when he returns.

[MVP]

On another note: Trevor Hoffman is one save away from reaching 500 in his career.

[Splaya]

Splaya and the Detroit Tigers would like to thank Bryan Cashman for trading us Gary Sheffield.

[mrslackalack]

Hoffman is a great closer.

[ClockShot]

Complete game by Wang. Did an awesome job tonight. Probably could have gotten a few extra runs if we didn't do stupid shit while on bases.

Went crazy on that bullet from Melky to home plate for that out.

[Dragon]

Good game all around. Starting yesterday with Clippard until Saturday with Clemens should be our rotation for a while and should be the first time in a while we actually have a complete go through a set rotation.

Cairo has been awesome at first too. Phelps was playing pretty awful at first so I think Cairo will be in there for a while as long as they keep winning.

[mrslackalack]

People are starting to claim that the Yankees are slowly coming back. Winning 4 of your last 6 is a pretty decent start, but have to keep being consisent on it.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

ROFLLLLL Ozzie thinks the steriod thing is targeting Latino players....I guess Barry Bonds is latino?

http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/story/10216201

[mrslackalack]

Ozzie always speaks what is on his mind

[mrslackalack]

Tim Kurkijan said this morning on ESPN Radio that if the Mariners have a collapse sometime this season that Ichiro will prolly be with a new team next season.

[YOUR Hero]

Man, Tampa's young hitters are scary good. I've said it before, if they can get some pitching they'll be the team of the future in the AL East. LOL... they should be, they've got so many #1 draft picks.

Through all their injuries, the Jays are only 2 games under .500. Not that that is the milestone they set out for this year, but it's good top see they can compete even through all the injuries.

[YOUR Hero]

If you ask me, I'd say the NL is the better league right now. Way deeper pitching. All you AL fan boys can't disagree.

[mrslackalack]

Yeah the NLs pitching has been on a whole great this season. But I see a AL team winning the WS this season.

[MVP]

(AL) East coast bias at TPWW

[MVP]

Schilling had a no-no go into the 9th with 2 outs left, and Shannon Stewart smacked a line drive to right and broke it up. At least they won and he got a complete game shutout. About time too.

[mrslackalack]

Yeah heartbreaker for Schilling today, it reminded me several years back when Mike Mussina had a perfect game 8.2 innings through and just needed 1 k to win and Carl Everett hit a single.

[mrslackalack]

A.J. Burnett had 13 Ks today, prolly his best game since he had a no hitter with the Marlins several years back.

[mrslackalack]

Devil Rays got a great pitcher today with the #1 overall pick in the draft (that guy from Vandy) I was VERY suprised to see Ben Revere who plays for a rival HS of my alma mater go first round to the Minnesota Twins.

[Triple A]

SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE YA

Grand slam

[Nervous Ferret]

Deep to (Right/Left/Center) Field, going back is (opposing outfielder) at the track at the wall... SEEEEEEEE YA. A (solo/2 run/3 run/Granddddd Slammmm) for (Yankees hitter) and the Yankees now lead by a score of (insert new score)



This is Micheal Kay saying SEEYA from (insert ballpark in which the Yankees are playing)

[Dragon]

Crazy, I left for a couple minutes with a one run lead and come back and we are up by 6.

A-Rod is ridiculous. His stats in the 9th are pretty insane.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I fucking hate that guy

Is he the sameone who says DADADADAADADA YANKEES WIN DADADAD YANNKKKES WIIIIIIIIIIIIN or something like that?

[mrslackalack]

SEEEEEEEEE YA is def what Kay is known for.

[Nervous Ferret]

Nah John Sterling does the Yankees win thing. Micheal Kay is the broadcaster for YES (Yankees Entertainment and Sports Netwrok) and he alweays says Seeya and I want to punch him in his stupid face everytime he talks about when he used to play little league

[Dragon]

Nah, John Sterling is the whole DADADADAADADA YANKEES WIN DADADAD YANNKKKES WIIIIIIIIIIIIN guy. He's the radio guy

[Triple A]

Nah that guy is on the radio, I dunno his name.

[Dragon]

Paul O'Neil is a great announcer. I dunno, listening to him this series is just great

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

They are both annoying as fuck, surprisingly they both commentate for the New York Yankees

[mrslackalack]

Suprised Morgan is not a commentator for the Yankees.

[Nervous Ferret]

Aside from Kay Yankees have a pretty stacked announce lineup.

O'Neil
Ken Singleton
Bobby Murcer
Jim Kaat
John Flahrety

I dunno

[Triple A]

Yeah I was honestly just about to type that. Paul O'Neill is mad entertaining cause he just talks about ridiculous shit, like how a bird keeps staring at him.

When he was talking about that black umpire that kept punching people out on strikeouts a few games back it made me ROFL

[Nervous Ferret]

Also they finally fired that ho Susan Waldman. Seriously hater her

[Dragon]

Yeah, he is hilarious. And constantly making fun of Kay, I wish he was on more.

[mrslackalack]

I loved O'Neill as a Red.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

THE REM DAWG BABY

[Dragon]

LOL, did they really fire her?

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

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[mrslackalack]

I want Paul O'Neill to hit TWO home runs today! little boy in the hospital to Kramer on Seinfeld.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=dcKeDPG_lMQ&mode=related&search=

Posted before, just saw it again..................hilarious

[Nervous Ferret]

Could have sworn they fired Suzyn Waldman, but her name is still on the Yankees broadcaster page on Yankees.com. Comeon Suzyn is the worst remdition of Susan I have ever seen.

Suzyn Waldman
http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/images/team/broadcasters/suzyn_waldman.jpg

[Dragon]

Did you hear her reaction to Roger Clemens when he was at the stadium announcing his return? lol

[Dragon]

A-Rod's 9th inning stats.

9 for 17, 6 HR's and 16 RBI's

Pretty insane

[mrslackalack]

Tony Schaviones a big baseball fan. He should annouced for the Yanks. Tonight he would have said it was the biggest night in the history of our sport.

[mrslackalack]

If only A-Rod can show up in the postseason.

[FakeLaser]

I hate Michael Kay. I love when it's Kay and Leiter though because they obviously hate each other. Seriously, they argue like every 4 seconds. It's incredible.

[Nervous Ferret]

I am (personally) friends with Mark Leiter. He lives a few blocks away from me

[Nervous Ferret]

Freaking hate AL Leiter though, nearly as much as I hate Micheal Kay

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Damn, this kid Mike Tarsi out of UCONN just got drafted by the Twins. Graduated from my high school three years ago.</font> :cool:

[Loose Cannon]

Kay is awesome and so is Sterling. I hate Suzyn though. My favorite of all-time is Murcer though.

[Nervous Ferret]

Little League World Series MVP and Toms River native Todd Frazier was drafted 34th overall to the Cincinatti Reds. :y:

[FakeLaser]

I'm a huge Jim Kaat supporter. Sucks that he retired.

[mrslackalack]

It would be funny if Steinbrenner ever fired Kay by just saying to him SEEEEEEEEE YA!

[OssMan]

That ball is high! It is far! It is gone~!
An AAAAAAAAAAAA Bomb!
For AAAAAAAAAAAAA Rod!

[MVP]

Tony Schaviones a big baseball fan. He should annouced for the Yanks. Tonight he would have said it was the biggest night in the history of our sport.

It would be even more hilarious if JR was the commentator

"BAHGAWD A-ROD GRAND SLAM GAME OVER YANKEES WIN WHAT A SLOBBERKNOCKER BAHGAWD HE HIT THAT BALL LIKE A GOVERNMENT MULE"

[mrslackalack]

''That baseball is not BBQ sauce and that bat is not made of chocolate'' JR

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Homer Bailey's making his first start tonight. Just informing you so you can remember where you were the first time the greatest pitcher of all time made his debut.

[mrslackalack]

Yup I hope Bailey does well although that one guy off First Take didnt think he would.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Yeah but they might as well talk about nuclear physics on that show since the people on it know as much about that as they do about sports.

[ClockShot]

:eek:

MELKY! WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT?!:rant:

[mrslackalack]

Soriano 3 HRs in his first 3 ABs

[MVP]

Bout time Drew did something at the plate

3-5 2 HR 7 RBI

[mrslackalack]

At least the Yanks won, they are on a roll now.

[mrslackalack]

Bailey did good tonight. Reds got a nice W over the Indians

[mrslackalack]

Yeah Drew showed up tonight for a nice Red Sox win. They got to be consisent because the Yankees have won 7 of their last 9 I believe.

[ClockShot]

Mission control. The Rocket has landed.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Guillermo Mota makes me sick.

I was hoping that last year's amazing performance with the Mets wasn't entirely due to steroids...but it's becoming increasingly obvious that it was.</font>

[YOUR Hero]

Matt Stairs.

When the Jays signed him, I saw it as a step backwards. Hell, he's a Canadian and all, but I just didn't think he was the type of bat the Jays needed for this team.

Wrong.

The guy just hit HR #9, he's playing with quiet confidence and really plays hard all the time. He's been in the outfield, 1B, DH. He's been a great utility player that possesses pop. I hope his average stays decent, that's the one thing I remain concerned about.

[mrslackalack]

Yeah Stairs has been a pleasant suprise for the Blue Jays this season.

[SammyG]

God damnit, i HATE losing 1-0 ball games. FOR FUCKS SAKE, we had 8 hits and 0 runs.

[OssMan]

why the hek do birds live at comerica park!

[OssMan]

tigers <3 David Wright

[Dragon]

Big days from Abreu and A-Rod today, 2 more HRs for A-Rod.

Clippard was pretty awful but 6th straight win anyway.

Now we get to face Arizona and the Mets though, so it should be a better test. Webb vs. Wang on Tuesday should be a great game.

[YOUR Hero]

God damnit, i HATE losing 1-0 ball games. FOR FUCKS SAKE, we had 8 hits and 0 runs.

The first two games were well pitched by both teams. Gotta like it for that fact. Penny had a complete game 4 hitter, yet took the loss.

[YOUR Hero]

Gonna be some fisticuff tonight in Atlanta. Moody already.

[McLegend]

Jose Mesa

[mrslackalack]

Shocked that the Reds won 1-0 today.

[mrslackalack]

If the Yanks take the majority of the games in the D-Backs and Mets series it would be great for them.

[mrslackalack]

Yeah I hate 1-0 ball games as well. The 2 Reds games I have been to the past several years were 1-0 games but at least they were W's

[Dragon]

Solid week for the Yankees; after that Sox loss tonight they shaved 5 games off Boston's lead in just this past week. I guess Randy Johnson is good for something.

[YOUR Hero]

1-0 can be a very exciting game. For me anyway, because I lie good pitching. Not only that, but take for EG the other night. The Dodgers twice had the bases loaded with 1 out and yet were unable to score.

[YOUR Hero]

LOL, saw all those birds in Detroit (what!) (Rock city)

[Hardkore Kidd J]

Big days from Abreu and A-Rod today, 2 more HRs for A-Rod.

Clippard was pretty awful but 6th straight win anyway.

Now we get to face Arizona and the Mets though, so it should be a better test. Webb vs. Wang on Tuesday should be a great game.

Yeah, I'm just happy we don't have to face Randy. Since Randy was the one who beat Dice K yesterday it looks like we're missing him in the Yankee series. I think Clippard will bounce back once he faces the Mets again. Yeah, Tuesday's match should be a great match.

[Dragon]

Clippard needs to start being more efficient with his pitches. After that 6-inning outing in his first start versus the Mets he has gone 4, 5, 5 and 3.2 innings. He's kept us in most games but he still needs to eat some innings. Especially with Clemens being a 5-6 inning pitcher.

[SammyG]

3 game series with the Mets comin up. A sweep would be pritty noice.

[Fenix122]

yes a three game sweep by the mets would be nice

[OssMan]

One hour until the mets game what the fuck. Dodgers are ass holes for being west coast, this means the game will end at 1 and i will be guaranteed asleep by then from listening to Howie Rose

[YOUR Hero]

It means we west coaster get to watch the game at a decent time, AssMan

[OssMan]

Dodgers have Vin Scully though so they should wanna watch longer

[OssMan]

they're still assholes for being corporate sellouts and dragging the Giants along with them to the west coast

[mrslackalack]

It seems forever since Bonds has hit a HR

[YOUR Hero]

Rios took Bonds to the wall, 1st pitch, Barry looked afraid of that wall. Double.

[YOUR Hero]

Wow, Bonds is a bad outfielder now. He's not looking good already in the 1st inning.

[mrslackalack]

There was even rumors Bonds might go on the DL

[OssMan]

Hilary Swank is a mets fan. F that s

[YOUR Hero]

The reason the Giants have a chance tonight is because Josh Towers is pitching.

What's happened to this guy?!

[OssMan]

know what rocks, when Jose Valentin bunts for a base hit

[mrslackalack]

Towers has been awful lately

[YOUR Hero]

He doesn't give the hitters much to think about. With Towers it's always a strike or close to being one. They get too comfortable in the batter's box.

[SammyG]

Bonds 8 HRs shy. Also, DDODGGERSS

[YOUR Hero]

Bonds giveth, Bonds taketh away. Terrible outfielding that lead to the Jays 3 runs in the 1st inning. Bonds hit a 2 run HR. Like I said right from the go, San Fran had a chance because Towers was pitching.

[Fenix122]

yes a three game sweep by the mets would be nice

well there goes that aspiration :nono:

[Dragon]

Nice, Verlander just threw a no-hitter against the Brewers.

[YOUR Hero]

yeah, no small feat. Brewers are a hell of a team.

[mrslackalack]

Most impressive no hitter in a while in my opinion as the Brew Crew has some offense this season.

[mrslackalack]

SammyG I have heard that your Dodgers and the Reds are in trade talks for Adam Dunn. What do you think about that? Id say if you do get done you would have to give up a SP or some good prospects

[Dragon]

And back to .500 for the Yankees. 7 in a row now, things are rolling along nicely.

[YOUR Hero]

Dodgers need some pop, but I think it would be a mistake to give up one of their SPs. Mind you since I don't follow them, I don't know what they've got coming up from the minors.

[mrslackalack]

Yeah I know the Astros rejected Dunn for Lidge. I heard no deal is worked out with the Dodgers they might offer him to the W Sox for Burhele.

[mrslackalack]

The Yanks are on a roll the WC looks very possible for them now.

[FakeLaser]

Verlander is sick.

I knew the Yankees would turn it around after that comeback against Boston.

[SammyG]

I dunno. I don't wanna give up any SP, or Kemp, Loney or Ethier. These guys are gonna be LA's future. I am just fine with the lineup we have.

[SammyG]

Also, yeah, pritty sure we are gonna complete the sweep of the Mets tonight. Pennnyyy

[YOUR Hero]

What team's playoff hopes are dead, alive?

Arizona Diamondbacks
Status: Alive On a park-adjusted basis, the Snakes have the best pitching in the NL. As well, those young bats are finally showing signs of life. At present, they're tied with the Dodgers, one W ahead of the Padres in the wins column, and they're not going anywhere.


Atlanta Braves
Status: Alive The -1 run differential is a bit troubling, as are the injuries to core contributors like John Smoltz and Chipper Jones. Still, they're only two games back in the East and in the Wild Card chase.

Baltimore Orioles
Status: Dead The pitching's looked much better of late, but the hole is too deep. Avoiding a 10th-straight losing season is a more reasonable goal.

Boston Red Sox
Status: Alive At present, Baseball Prospectus gives the Sox a 97.1 percent chance of making the post-season, and that's about as good as it gets in June. The only question is whether they'll win 100 games.

Chicago Cubs
Status: Alive In any other division, they'd be dead, but this is the NL Central. They've scored more runs than they've given up, but the Cubs' brutal record in one-run games is killing them. Still, they've got a puncher's chance in this division.

Chicago White Sox
Status: Dead The division is too tough, and the offense is too bad. Despite playing in a great hitter's park, the White Sox rank last in the AL in runs scored per game. The time to rebuild has arrived.

Cincinnati Reds
Status: Dead Yes, even in the NL Central this team's done for. Homer Bailey will help the rotation the rest of the way, but they don't have the talent to make up an eight-and-a-half-game deficit.

Cleveland Indians
Status: Alive The pitching has been slipping, but the offense remains one of the game's best. They'll need more consistency in the rotation going forward, but the Indians are a solid bet to make the postseason.

Colorado Rockies
Status: Dead Finishing out of last place is a distinct possibility, as is logging their first winning season since 2000. The future is reasonably bright for the Rockies, but the teams ahead of them in the West are simply too tough.

Detroit Tigers
Status: Alive At the moment, the Tigers are tied with the Indians atop the AL Central and lead the AL wild-card race. Unless the Tigers can get healthy, that may not last much longer. Still, the defending AL champs are here to stay.

Florida Marlins
Status: Dead The offense has been tremendous thus far, but they don't have the pitching to hang with the Mets and Braves.

Houston Astros
Status: Dead After you adjust for park effects, the Astros have the worst offense in the NL. The rotation behind Roy Oswalt is similarly ugly. That won't be enough, even in baseball's weakest division.

Kansas City Royals
Status: Dead The Royals + baseball's toughest division = dead. Watching Alex Gordon improve the rest of the way is the only reason to tune in. A fourth-straight 100-loss season seems inevitable.

Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim
Status: Alive The offense is improving. If the rotation stays healthy, then the only question is whether they'll wind up as the best team in baseball.

Los Angeles Dodgers
Status: Alive Right now, they're the weakest of the three NL West powerhouses, but they're still very much alive. It'll be important for Grady Little to give the young bats (e.g., James Loney and Matt Kemp) as much playing time as possible in the coming weeks.

Milwaukee Brewers
Status: Alive Milwaukee's 34-30 record is certainly on the "meh" side for a team atop its division, but only the Red Sox have a larger lead.

Minnesota Twins
Status: Alive Alive, but by a thread. Until the Twins can get better production from left field and DH, they're not going to be a serious threat. Still, they're hanging around.

New York Mets
Status: Alive The wheels have been coming off of late, but they still lead the NL East by a pair of games. Long-term, they figure to fend off all comers in the division.

New York Yankees
Status: Alive The Yanks are heating up, Roger Clemens is in the fold and Bobby Abreu is finally starting to hit. The odds are still against them (they're five-and-a-half games out of playoff position at this writing), but they're in the contending fray.

Oakland Athletics
Status: Alive The best pitching staff in baseball, but the A's can't hit and can't stay healthy. Still, the run differential suggests their record should be two games better than it is. They're a serious threat to win the Wild Card.

Philadelphia Phillies
Status: Alive After a brutal start to the season, the Phillies have methodically pulled to within hailing distance of the NL East and wild-card leads. If they're going to get closer, then they'll need to patch those holes in the rotation.

Pittsburgh Pirates
Status: Dead A 15th-straight losing season is all but assured. The Buccos have some interesting young pitching, but there's just no offense.

St. Louis Cardinals
Status: Alive Only in this division would the Cardinals cling to life. If they can hang in there until Chris Carpenter and Mark Mulder return at some point in August, then perhaps they can make a late push.

San Diego Padres
Status: Alive The best team in the National League? Quite possibly. They have the strongest run differential in the league and one of the best bullpens in recent memory.

San Francisco Giants
Status: Dead They can't compare to the Padres, Diamondbacks and Dodgers. They might not even be able to stay out of last place.

Seattle Mariners
Status: Alive The upstart Mariners are only a game off the AL wild-card pace. It remains to be seen whether they can keep it up, but right now they're very much alive. If Felix Hernandez can return to his pre-DL form, then that'll certainly help their cause.

Tampa Bay Devil Rays
Status: Dead Baseball's worst pitching staff resides in Tampa. James Shields and Scott Kazmir form an enviable one-two punch, but otherwise they can't keep runs off the board.

Texas Rangers
Status: Dead Deader than dead. The Rangers could wind up as the worst team in baseball this season. And no longer can you point to the pitching as the sole problem — the team's failures are sweeping and all-encompassing.

Toronto Blue Jays
Status: Dead Potentially a decent team, but they don't have the rotation depth to compete with the true AL powers.

Washington Nationals
Status: Dead The Nats aren't turning out to be quite as bad as anticipated, but a team scoring less than four runs per game in this day and age isn't going anywhere.

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kinda early to be writting teams off imo, plus the wildcard keeps so many teams alive to the end..

what do you think?

[Dragon]

Looks like the Sox will lose, and unless Michael Myers gives up 5 runs before getting 2 outs we will win too. Chipping away at that division lead.

[mrslackalack]

Well the Reds have been a big time dissapointment this season as several publications had us as the NL WC team. While lately the pitchings always been bad its been worse this season. The only real great efforts we have gotten is from Harang and Lohse twice this yr. Bailey could do great things down the stretch and Everyday Eddie returns soon. While we can put up runs with any1 we can give them up just as easy. I know it seems that the playoff chances are fading fast but this NL Central Race is still wide open in my opinion.

[mrslackalack]

Great report by the way YH.

[mrslackalack]

Yet the anaylists are kind of being Yankee haters still saying they beat struggling teams like the W Sox and Pirates and that they would still get L's against the upper echleon of the AL teams

[SammyG]

Yankees kicking ass right now. Also, we just swept the Mets. I am fucking loving this. The NL West race is gonna be so exciting.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I can't see the NL West race being competitive much longer. The Padres are so good this year. Their pitching is by far the best in the NL and it's a very real possibility that Peavy and Young will finish 1 and 2 in the Cy Young voting at the end of the year. The Padres also look like the team most likely to get Dunn which would give them a power bat which is really the only weakness on their team right now.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>The Mets are making me fucking sick. It's a miracle they are still in 1st place</font>

[YOUR Hero]

I can't see the NL West race being competitive much longer. The Padres are so good this year. Their pitching is by far the best in the NL and it's a very real possibility that Peavy and Young will finish 1 and 2 in the Cy Young voting at the end of the year. The Padres also look like the team most likely to get Dunn which would give them a power bat which is really the only weakness on their team right now.

LA's pitching isn't too shabby either. Maybe not as glam as San Diego's but they at least from the games I see, cxan pitch with anyone. They too need a power bat.

Maybe some offensive push is what'll determine the race in that div.

[Dragon]

I like the Yankees upcoming schedule. The Mets are usually tough, so I'm not gonna underestimate them, although they do seem to be in a downfall right now. After that they have the Rockies, Giants and Orioles. Good chance to pick up some games, especially when the Sox have the Braves, Padres and Mariners during that stretch.

[BCWWF]

Keep in mind that beating the Pirates, Diamondbacks and White Sox isn't the most impressive feat in the world.

[Dragon]

Yeah, they aren't the best teams obviously. But winning 9 games in a row, IMO, is still impressive. No matter how bad the teams are.

[SammyG]

Our pitching is better than the Padres pitching IMO.

[Fenix122]

Bah the Mets have better get out of this slump they're in...terrible

[Dragon]

Hopefully the Mets wait until after they face us to wake up. Not really sure what to expect from Clemens and Clippard against the Mets so who knows how this series will play out.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

The Padres team ERA is 2.97. The Dodgers team ERA is 3.62. The Dodgers pitching is not better than the Padres.

[mrslackalack]

Yeah a 9 game winning streak always lifts momentum no matter who it is.

[mrslackalack]

Yeah I think both the Padres and the Dodgers will be big buyers (espically for batters) at the trade deadline.

[mrslackalack]

The Subway series is gonna be interesting as the Yankees are on a big roll and the Mets are on that big slump.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Fuckin Red Sox :(

[YOUR Hero]

The Dodgers fired Eddie Murray. He was their hitting coach.

[YOUR Hero]

My Jays D/A'ed Sal Fasano. Not surprised, but I'll tell you what, the guy a great clubhouse leader. Shit, he barely spent any time with the Jays, yet he was very interested in passing on what he knew about pitchers/pitching, etc. This guy might never be a MLB star, but he very well could be a good coach some day.

[ClockShot]

I never understood why the Yanks grabbed him at the trade deadline. I assume to give Jorge Posada some extra time off. But he only played a few games then went out on the market at the end of the season.

It's a bummer though. True he might not be right there with Piazza, Posada, or other big name catchers. But I could also see him winding up as a coach or possibly team manager in his future.

[ClockShot]

Big night here in the Northeast.

Subway Series: Part 2

Bonds in Boston.

My thumb may get a good workout tonight.

[SammyG]

It'd be cool if Bonds hit one over the Green Monster

[SammyG]

and I think the Indians did the same thing like 2 years ago, they fired Eddie Murray, and they instantly started hitting the ball way better.

[FakeLaser]

Roger Clemens vs. Julio Franco

[Fenix122]

yeah boy...mets win 2-0.

[ClockShot]

Geez. Tough loss for us today. Probably would have been into extra innings or won if we didn't do stupid stuff today. Mets were on point and gave Posada a workout today.

[Fenix122]

one more thing...Carlos Gomez is the MAN

[MVP]

Big win for the Sox tonight cause the Yankees lost. Pedroia 5-5, looking like an all-star. Also good to see Drew actually hitting the ball. Maybe having him lead off won't be so bad if he keeps turning it around, at least it's better than Lugo and Crisp leading off with their sub .300 OBP.

[mrslackalack]

Yeah huge wins for the Red Sox and Mets tonight

[OssMan]

Team Rocket blasting off again!

[OssMan]

Holds are an official stat now. That's retarded, they don't mean anything

[mrslackalack]

lol

[RP]

Pinella did something awsome over the past 2 weeks. He's playing all the young players. Its fantastic. Shawn Marshall, Angel Guzmon. These guys are getting time with the vets in there like Lee and Soriano and the Cubbies are headed up. Hopefully it continues.

Derosa is the man. Probably my new favorite Cubbie.

[SammyG]

Dodgers over Angels, 2-1. sweeet, leading the NL west again.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I was driving home from the Reds game a couple nights ago listening to a postgame radio show and the host had an interesting topic: how many baseball players are there right now that you would pay to see. He was talking about how there aren't many true superstars in the game right now like there were in the past. So I was asking myself this question and the list I came up with looks like this:

Alex Rodriguez
Roger Clemens
David Ortiz
Roy Halladay
Johan Santana
Vlad Guerrero
Albert Pujols
Ken Griffey Jr.
Barry Bonds
Randy Johnson

Only 10. Obviously there's guys on the fence like Cabrera and Peavy who will probably become superstars but aren't there yet.

[FakeLaser]

Derek Jeter and Jose Reyes, come on.