MLB 2007 Season Thread

[RoXer]

I thought Valverde was going to shit in my face :(

[RoXer]

Interesting how Mr. Wadding is keeping quiet until the end of the series. HMMMMMMMM

[FakeLaser]

Pretty dumb ass move by Pinella, you're right. Zambo was rollin rollin rollin rollin WHAT

I guess he put too much faith in Marmol. Gotta remember that he's a rookie though. Obviously he backfired.

[Loose Cannon]

the Cubs never scored another run anyway, so it actually worked out for them. Of course there's the: would Arizona scored if Zambrano was left in?

Pretty dumb though. I would like to here his reasoning.

[SammyG]

I must spread rep again before giving it to Hero/Frazor.

Yeah, retarded move by Lou.

[mrslackalack]

Just no guarntees on a series W Lou you are 0-1 on that.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Big Papi David Ortiz the king of the playoffs

[FakeLaser]

Papi had a slick outfit on during the postgame interviews.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

In Piniella's defense he pulled Zambrano for a guy who had a 1.43 ERA this year. The part I don't get is if he had Zambrano on a pitch limit, why didn't he pinch hit for him in the top of the 6th when they had runners on 2nd and 3rd with 2 outs? They had Ward on the bench.

[FakeLaser]

Marmol was unhittable during the regular season but he's a rookie. When your ace is rolling like that you don't take him out. It seemed like a dumb ass move, even dumber now that you mention that he didn't pinch hit for him. Zambo can hit well for a pitcher but he still can't hit as well as a position player, especially Ward who was their best pinch hitter all season. I guess you could argue that they were saving him for the later innings, but there was definitely more than one guy on the bench.

The announcers said Pinella expected Zambrano to throw about 100 pitches. I don't see why the hell he'd take him out after 85 and not pinch hit for him. Maybe there was something wrong with him? I don't know, the whole thing just doesn't add up, especially for a great manager like Pinella.

[Innovator]

Cal Ripken needs to be on the commentating team, not in the studio...fucking TBS

[FakeLaser]

Frank Thomas is really, really bad.

[OssMan]

Jobber Chamberlain about to get rocked tonight

[OssMan]

Cal Ripken needs to be on the commentating team, not in the studio...fucking TBSHey at least its not Chip Caray

[SammyG]

lol Rockies, 2 home runs in the top of the first, back to back. Ridiculous.

[OssMan]

wtf there is a game on?

[SammyG]

Yes. And a damn good one at that.

[Dragon]

Rollins stepping up big early. 2-2 with a triple and a HR with 3 RBI's already.

[Dragon]

LOL, man.

4 HR's in this game already and only in the 4th inning.

Kazuo just hit a bomb to put Colorado up again.

[OssMan]

kaz matsui steppin up

[Dragon]

Kazuo again. Single away from the cycle now

[RP]

the Phillies are getting beat by a little chinaman that probably dont even know karate.

[Hanso Amore]

I like the Phillies and the Rockies. Shame only one can advance. I would rather the Rockies advance and make it to the series because I think they will be easier to beat for the Yanks. Either way Id be ok with it. Any of the 4 teams can make the series, as long as they lose to the Yanks.

[Dragon]

Nice, Johnny with the leadoff HR against Sabathia

[SammyG]

Skippord is still masturbating.

[Nervous Ferret]

Wang is off the mark :*(

[ClockShot]

God. Baseball on TBS is tough to watch. I just had to turn it off for a little while.

I can't believe we all gotta suffer through this since Ted's Braves didn't make it this year.

[OssMan]

3-1 Yankees suck

[OssMan]

good job so far Yankees

[Dragon]

At least they are making Sabathia throw pitches. In the mid-90s already in the 5th inning. Wang has sucked but that was expected with this being on the road. Still would have thought Wang pitching game 3 at home would have been a smart move.

[Loose Cannon]

those fucking gay ass towels the fans wave around.

[SammyG]

3-2 count on Jeter no outs runners on 1st and 2nd. Big inning possibility here.

[Loose Cannon]

wtf, Jeter should of laid one down there.

[Loose Cannon]

3-2 count on Jeter no outs runners on 1st and 2nd. Big inning possibility here.

thanks Michael Kay

[Loose Cannon]

WOOO Bitch

[Dragon]

Pretty horrible job not getting that tying run in. At least Sabathia is done

[Loose Cannon]

well that was terrible.

[Dragon]

Matsui has been horrible this past month. I thought he'd try to work a walk at least seeing as Sabathia was having trouble getting his pitches over

[Dragon]

I don't get that whole 9 foot marker for 1st base that TBS keeps showing. Kind of pointless

[Nervous Ferret]

mad drama game


also lol 2 people were in the green and both got thrown out


fuck hate those drummer guys

[Loose Cannon]

fuck, just serve the Yankees on a silver platter to the new young hot team of the year

[Dragon]

Terrible. Looked like the game was changing tides a bit before that

[Loose Cannon]

lol Kenny fucking Lofton. are you kidding me

[Loose Cannon]

everyone becomes Ted Williams when they play the Yankees in the playoffs

[Dragon]

All of a sudden its 1997 for Kenny Lofton. Man, this game got out of hand this inning

[Loose Cannon]

I want to kill this announcer.

[Loose Cannon]

oh gee, 9-3 now. is this 2005, 2006 or 2007, I forget

[Dragon]

All of that with 2 outs

[Skippord]

Skippord is still masturbating.
http://www.sanspo.com/mlb/matsui_k/image/profile.jpg
:love:

[Nervous Ferret]

I have never even heard of that guy that just struck out the side

[Dragon]

If you told me before this game that the Yankees would score 3 runs off Sabathia and he'd be out after 5 innings I would have jumped all over that.

[Loose Cannon]

WHAT THE FUCK

[Loose Cannon]

this is a comedy now.

[Loose Cannon]

we've got these fans talking about drums, the worst announcer ever to say words, Labron James wearing a Yankees hat in Cleveland and the Yankees getting mauled

[McLegend]

Really wish Matt Holliday wasn't called safe against the Padres Monday night :(

[Dragon]

Pretty annoying seeing a "Kenny Lofton is on the move" commercial every break after he is just killing us this game

[toxic rooster]

It's Tribe Time Now

[toxic rooster]

Perez has been a revelation this year. so happy to see him chucking well when it counts

[Dragon]

Why in the hell would you use Hughes when you're down by 8 runs. Pretty ridiculous. I guess when Mussina gets knocked out in the 4 inning in his start we will go with Ohlendorf and Veras again. Hughes should be starting that game anyway

[Dragon]

I could probably understand bringing him in when Wang was getting knocked around but now is just a waste.

[YOUR Hero]

just turned the game on. watched matsui not swing at strikes.

[Skippord]

Really wish Matt Holliday werent the man

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

DADADADAD YANKEES WIN DADADADADA YANNNKEEEEEEEEESSSSS WIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIN

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Really though its just Game 1, although pretty rough to see your "ace" get roughed up like that in the playoffs

[OssMan]

Great game Yanks keep it up Yankees pinstripes baby

[Loose Cannon]

lol why are you even typing anymore here

[OssMan]

I'm All There is m8 :D Wang baby :D :D :lol: Here we go Yankees here we go :lol: :lol:

[Skippord]

Citizens Bank Park is the greatest field in history

[Loose Cannon]

you are a Mets fan that lives in West Virginia or some shit and likes th Nationals as well.

[OssMan]

you are a dum ho who lives in north carolina n doesnt even support local teams! freakin dum

[Loose Cannon]

why would I support North Carolina teams when I lived in NY for 20 years? keep rooting for those Mets though. Your dad will be proud

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Somebody que up The Miz here.......

"What do the Mets have to do with the Yankees losing?"

lol

Also, TPWW is the wrong place to talk about people rooting for random teams.

[Dragon]

I like the Yankees chances if they take tomorrows game. Carmona won't be easy but he is beatable; if they can get to Sabathia (somewhat) they can get to Carmona. Pettitte needs to step up and pitch a solid game.

Interesting stat though. Since 1995 in the ALDS series; when the Yankees win game 1 they ended up being something like 2-5 in those series. When they lose game 1 they are 5-0.

[Dragon]

I still think starting Wang in the first game was the biggest mistake though. For the season he has an ERA in the 2.00s at home and in the high 4s on the road. That definitely says something; would have felt much more comfortable with Wang starting game 3. I guess the only question is if Roger could have gone game 2. Hell, would have even gone with Hughes for game 2 and save Roger for game 4.

[Loose Cannon]

Somebody que up The Miz here.......

"What do the Mets have to do with the Yankees losing?"

lol

Also, TPWW is the wrong place to talk about people rooting for random teams.

cause I was blaming the Yankees loss on the Mets with my posts back there. yea

[Innovator]

Okay, who is the jokster that glued Matsui's bat to his shoulder?

[Dragon]

Everything he swings at he lightly pulls to the right side and grounds out to the 2nd baseman anyway. He has been in a horrible slump for the past month and isn't helping at all. I really think Duncan should be in there in some form tomorrow. DH or 1st base are the only options really, but he should be in there.

[Innovator]

i hope doug mcan'ttypehislastname can go tomorrow, if not put Shelly at first and Giambi in DH

[Innovator]

This is when Cairo would always come up big

[YOUR Hero]

He's bailing in the batter's box like he was on the HMS Titanic.

(Matsui that is)

[Dragon]

He's bailing in the batter's box like he was on the HMS Titanic.

(Matsui that is)

Yeah, he goes through huge stretches where he does that nonstop. Its the same thing he's been doing for the past couple weeks. He flies open and just pops up or hits a weak grounder.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

cause I was blaming the Yankees loss on the Mets with my posts back there. yeacause I was saying you did. yea

[FakeLaser]

:'(

[SammyG]

D-backs Rockies NLCS, NL West affair. Best division in baseball.

[FakeLaser]

lol best division in baseball

[Skippord]

Kaz > Hideki

[YOUR Hero]

Yeah, he goes through huge stretches where he does that nonstop. Its the same thing he's been doing for the past couple weeks. He flies open and just pops up or hits a weak grounder.

"stepping in the bucket"

..do they still call it that?

[SammyG]

never heard that term.

[OssMan]

He's bailing in the batter's box like he was on the HMS Titanic.

(Matsui that is)Hideki Matsui that is

[Dragon]

Not really sure what Torre is thinking. He's batting Hideki 5th behind A-Rod today, pretty much guaranteeing that A-Rod will not get one pitch to hit. Why would the Indians anyway when they could get Matsui to get a weak groundball or popup in the infield. I hope I'm wrong and Matsui gets some hits, but his .160 AVG the last month or so doesn't make me too confident.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

well even if Matsui was hitting well I still wouldn't give A-Rod anything to hit

it's kinda that whole thing about being the best hitter in the last few decades or so

but whatever

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Supreme you do realize its the playoffs right?

haha

but really, how about LeBron James wearing a Yankees hat at the game? What a fag, dude is from fucking Ohio

[ClockShot]

Pirates fired manager Jim Tracy today.

Here's the story. http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3050460

So who's gonna come in and turn it all around?

[SammyG]

Supreme you do realize its the playoffs right?

haha

but really, how about LeBron James wearing a Yankees hat at the game? What a fag, dude is from fucking Ohio
He was being loyal to his team, I respect that. He's been a Yankee fan since he was a little kid.

[McLegend]

I have no respect for front runners.

[ClockShot]

Jesus christ. Somebody call an exterminator over in Cleveland.

[Dragon]

Wow, Joba is calm as can be with runners on 1st and 2nd with 1 out in a 1 run game but the bugs end up unnerving him

That stadium and the bugs are the most ridiculous thing I've seen

[SammyG]

LOL @ bugs. Extra innings. This game is amazing.

[SammyG]

If the Yanks win this game, they are winning this series.

[SammyG]

1st and 3rd. 2 outs. Bottom 10.

[Dragon]

Nice job by Garko leaning into that one

[Azriel]

Come on Yanks. Do something good.

[Triple A]

This shit is too intense

[Dragon]

Definitely gets sketchy now. Vizcaino probably coming in

[Dragon]

Not really sure how the pitch right down the middle is called a ball.

This whole year has been the worst year of officiating I've ever seen. So many ridiculous calls.

[Triple A]

CAN'T STAND THIS RIGHT NOW. Feel like I am gonna throw up

[Dragon]

I feel like the Yankees have taken years off my life this season. So many games like this getting me stressed out

[Triple A]

omg 3-2 gonna cry

[Triple A]

k.

[Dragon]

Wow, seriously hate baseball so much right now

[Dragon]

And now our season rests solely on the 45-year-old shoulders of Roger Clemens...

[Azriel]

GOD F#$%ING DAMNIT!!

[toxic rooster]

nice

See what happens when Hafner swings at a strike?

[toxic rooster]

never heard that term.

:|

[Dragon]

I want to punch Laz Diaz in the face, tbh. Some of those calls were way to biased on each side. Not that it probably would have mattered since the Yankees were playing awful but still. Him and Canada for bringing all those damn bugs

[Innovator]

Moose, Hughes, get your asses ready cause we ain't losing game 3

[toxic rooster]

Kenny Lofton is such an asset, even at 200 years old. Great move on him this year

[Loose Cannon]

it's fucking bullshit. once again nobody shows up for the playoffs. can't take this shit any more. why even be there if you're not going to play? It's sad when you know the games over when Rivera is done. Seriously, did any of you think they would win with dickhead on the mound.

Pitching was awesome tonight, but like the last few years, nobody can hit. We need players who can win in the playoffs, not get us to the playoffs.

[Dragon]

Yup, pitching was there, hitting wasn't. Joba gave up that run but he didn't even give up a hit. Uncharacteristic wild pitches and walks killed him.

But it is pretty damn pathetic when you remember every single hit your team has in the game, and every single inning/situation it is in. You have to give some credit to Carmona because he was flat-out nasty but still. You gotta score more than 1 run.

[Kris P Lettus]

That play to end the third by the BoSox's first baseman was OUTSTANDING..

[Loose Cannon]

He was being loyal to his team, I respect that. He's been a Yankee fan since he was a little kid.

Cowboys, Yankees, and Bulls. get the hell out of here. He's a disgrace wearing that hat

[toxic rooster]

Yeah great pitching duel. Would pretty much give up my left nut to throw a sinker like Carmona's.

[Kris P Lettus]

Cowboys, Yankees, and Bulls. get the hell out of here. He's a disgrace wearing that hat

*Lakers

Not "Bulls"..

[Loose Cannon]

the guy said Bulls last night and Labron shaked his head yes. whatever though, same thing

[Kris P Lettus]

I am just going by what was said on Rome's radio show today..

:dunno:

[RP]

lol@ all those bugs around Chamberline

[Skippord]

the Indians should have one that game like 14 times

[toxic rooster]

Totally.

Sizemore on third with no outs, you have to score him. No two ways about it

and they should have had a fan in centre like that Red Sox kid just now

[OssMan]

did not i post a million times that Jobber Chamberlain was going to get rocked in the playoffs

[SammyG]

Blame the Bugs. Angels/Sox is a great series.

[OssMan]

yeah ok lets blame a bunch of stupid fucking flies for the yankees being retards. i bet the bugs are what also made the Indians bullpen hold the Yankees over the last few innings too

[Dragon]

Yeah, Joba definitely got rocked. Giving up 1 run, not giving up any hits...

[Loose Cannon]

lol...he posted it a million times though Dragon.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

WOW MANNY IS THE MAN

[MVP]

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS MANNY

[Skippord]

Apparently Cleveland is infested with bugs

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Also is A-Rod serious? 0-4 with 3 Ks LOL

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I wanna see A-Rod strike out or just not get on base in his first AB next game. See if the fans totally turn on him.</font>

[ClockShot]

Damn. What a bad game last night for the yanks. I don't know why Pettitte got yanked that early in. He was holding it down for us pretty good last night.

Cleveland better run some crop dusters over that lake. That was a bunch of crap last night.

But the next two are back in the stadium. Fly free. We got a shot going to 5.

[RP]

Manny being Manny

[RP]

And now our season rests solely on the 45-year-old shoulders of Roger Clemens...


Well look on the bright side, atleast its not on Mike Mussina's shoulders.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>LOL watching a replay of Manny's home run. I swear, the INSTANT the ball hits the bat, you see this fan in the first row in a blue shirt jump right the fuck up and turn to leave. Dude seriously musta wanted to beat out the traffic.</font>

[Innovator]

I wanna see A-Rod strike out or just not get on base in his first AB next game. See if the fans totally turn on him.It isn't like anyone else is doing anything

[Dragon]

It isn't like anyone else is doing anything

Yup, 3 or 4 other guys have a big .000 average for the playoffs so far. Of course the papers and ESPN will only mention A-Rod.

The Yankees faced two of the best pitchers in baseball but now they face Westbrook and Byrd at Yankee Stadium. If they do what they should against those two guys then I could easily see it going back to Cleveland for one game. And when it gets to that point anything can happen. Its not like Sabathia shut us down or anything last time.

[FakeLaser]

I fucking hate bugs

We're still in this. We haven't hit anything all series though. Time to wake the fuck up.

[FakeLaser]

I love Joe Torre and I have been one of the few who has stood behind him but he has been horrible this series.

We should be running on Victor Martinez. I don't fucking get it. He's like the worst catcher in major league baseball. We aren't hitting, why the fuck aren't we taking any chances?

I don't know why the hell he'd hit Matsui behind A-Rod. Shit, at this point, I think Matsui has shown he shouldn't even be playing right now. Give Giambi a start at DH or even Shelley Duncan on Sunday. I'd hit Posada or even Cano behind A-Rod before Matsui at this point.

Joba will be fine. He was clearly bothered by the bugs. Rivera was Rivera. Even Vizcaino wasn't bad. Pitching hasn't really been our problem, except for Wang. This is the lineup I'd put out there tomorrow:

Damon
Jeter
Abreu
A-Rod
Posada
Cano
Giambi
Cabrera
Mientkiewicz

All we need is Clemens to give us 5 solid innings. Vizcaino can handle the 6th and then Joba and Rivera can slam the door shut on the 7th, 8th and 9th.

Game 4 is worrying. Hughes looked good in relief the other night but I doubt Torre will trust him in a huge game like that. I might be inclined to agree with him. I think we'll see Mussina out there, who I hope will be amped up for one of the biggest games of his career. He's been awful these past 2 seasons in the postseason though and his regular season numbers don't help.

I'd almost consider going with Wang on short rest. He's much better at home. I don't know if it's a great idea though, I can't remember how Wang pitches on short rest (or if he's even done it before). Also, he may be better at home, but he was terrible in game 1. TERRIBLE.

We really just need to start hitting. Everyone collectively. Rafael Perez has retired every batter he has faced thus far. Ridiculous.

[Dragon]

I dunno. From what I've heard Martinez has been a lot better at throwing runners out this season. Last year he threw out 13% of baserunners and this year he's at 30% apparently. He seems to have improved a lot there. And the fact we didn't get on too much really hurts.

I think the plan should be Wang in game 4 if we get there. I don't think they'd put the season on Hughes or Mussina. He's on short rest but sinkerballers tend to be better on short rest. Although usually when Wang's sinkerball is better he can't control it and walks a ton of guys. If we get to 5 Pettitte should be the one anyway.

They really need to pull out all the stops. Clemens has to pitch good tomorrow and if we get to game 4 Wang should start but be on a short leash with Mussina and Hughes ready to go at any time.

All long as they stay with Westbrook and Byrd in games 3 and 4 we have a chance to get to game 5. And once we get there anything can happen.

[FakeLaser]

Even if he's improved he's still not good. Even if he is decent we should be taking more chances. We haven't tried to manufacture any runs. Once again, we're waiting on the long ball, which is usually fine for us but we aren't hitting. We don't have time to break out of it. If we're going to go down we should go down fighting, not waiting around for someone to finally get that big hit.

[Dragon]

Yeah I agree with you. Just saying Martinez isn't as bad as before. It would have been huge if we could have just manufactured one run yesterday but we couldn't. Its pretty awful considering we have scored 4 runs these two games and three have come on homeruns. That definitely has to tell you something.

[RP]

Well, win or go home time for the Cubs. Seriously, i dont think Lou should be fired, but he's gunna be the one to blame for losing this series. I'm still like wtf at game 1. If he would have kepy Zambrano in there, i gotta think our bats would come alive and it would be a tie game until they did. If the Cubs win game 1. The series was done. Brandon Webb is there best weapon. You beat there best weapon in the first game and the series is over. But sweet Lou lost his fucking mind.

[RP]

It isn't like anyone else is doing anything



Yup, 3 or 4 other guys have a big .000 average for the playoffs so far. Of course the papers and ESPN will only mention A-Rod.

The Yankees faced two of the best pitchers in baseball but now they face Westbrook and Byrd at Yankee Stadium. If they do what they should against those two guys then I could easily see it going back to Cleveland for one game. And when it gets to that point anything can happen. Its not like Sabathia shut us down or anything last time.


LOL WHAT??? Fuck what everyone else is doing. A-rod is the highest paid player in the league. He's gunna be the AL MVP. He's been absolutely obliterated by the media for his post season performance and what does he do? He comes in and has a whopping .000 average so far. Thats a fucking joke. Everyone got on Manning when he struggled. Everyone laughed at Dirk Nowitski last year when he won the MVP after his team got bounced by the warriors and was shit. OFCOURSE blame A-Rod. I dont see why not. He deserves it. A guy of that caliber should not be performing like he is right now. Its basically inexcusable in my mind.

I mean, if Kaz Matsui can muscle up a playoff grandslam in a tie game. I think the least A-Rod can do is get on first base.

Hows it feel to know that if A-Rod is hitless going into his last atbat ( or possibly first for that matter ) and he doesnt get a big hit, he'll be booed so loudly, he definetly wont be back to New York next year? That has to suck.

[Skippord]

Kaz is the man

[RP]

FANTASTIC FUCKING START

[RP]

I dont know what the fuck Ramirez is swinging at right now. Honestly. I dont think he knows either. He just swung at a pitch that was about a foot away from the plate and he nearly fell on his face in doing so. Seriously wtf is going on here?

[RP]

Its over

[RoXer]

lol cubs

[Skippord]

Cubs now have curse of the double play to deal with too

[Skippord]

ITS GOIN' DOWWNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

[Skippord]

by that I meant the lights BTW

[Skippord]

I bet the Rockies didnt pay the light bill for October

werent expecting to need them

[mrslackalack]

haha

[Skippord]

if only we had a fast pitcher

[Skippord]

I hate Frank Caliendo

fuck

[SammyG]

lol I love Caliendo.

[Skippord]

Curses

I hate you Shane Victorino

[Skippord]

BAKE :love:

[Loose Cannon]

god all these teams; fans and thier gay towels they wave around. most annoying thing right next to the monkeys in Anaheim. it's become a circus.

[Skippord]

BALLIN

[Skippord]

Those towels are annoying as fuck though

[OssMan]

Did the Phillies lose yet

[Dragon]

LOL D-Backs and Rockies. You gotta think that is the last thing MLB would have wanted; Philly and Chicago would have been a big ratings boost. The Diamondbacks are really boring IMO so hopefully Colorado pulls through there.

The Yankees better stop this trend of sweeps this year when they play tomorrow.

[DaveWadding]

and you bunch of fucks thought CNM and I were crazy. :wave:

[Skippord]

I still dont get how the Diamondbacks win any games ever

[OssMan]

dbacks/rockies fans:

man, i know how you feel right now, i felt it last year, and it was awesome, definitely one of the best feelings of the year, so enjoy it.

phillies fans: lol

[DaveWadding]

I still dont get how the Diamondbacks win any games ever

Well, they sccore more runs than the other team does.

Also: http://www.tpww.net/forums/showthread.php?p=1634484#post1634484

[McLegend]

I hate Manny Corpus

[CNM]

Nice to see Ryan Howard isn't afraid to swing the bat with the season on the line. Errrr...

[Skippord]

Well, they sccore more runs than the other team does.

Also: http://www.tpww.net/forums/showthread.php?p=1634484#post1634484
I guess its the sick pitching but I dont know

[darkpower]

A thing about Clemens:

<table class="tablehead" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tbody><tr class="stathead" style="background: rgb(5, 28, 67) none repeat scroll 0% 50%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"><td colspan="17">2007 Season Stats</td></tr><tr class="colhead" align="right"><td align="left">SPLIT</td><td width="6%">G</td><td width="6%">IP</td><td width="6%">H</td><td width="6%">R</td><td width="6%">HR</td><td width="6%">BB</td><td width="6%">SO</td><td width="6%">W</td><td width="6%">L</td><td width="6%">Sv</td><td width="6%">P/GS</td><td width="6%">WHIP</td><td width="6%">BAA</td><td width="6%">ERA</td></tr><tr class="oddrow" align="right"><td align="left">Season</td><td>18</td><td>99.0</td><td>99</td><td>52</td><td>9</td><td>31</td><td>68</td><td>6</td><td>6</td><td>0</td><td>92.4</td><td>1.31</td><td>.261</td><td>4.18</td></tr></tbody></table>
Basically, yeah, that doesn't look good for the Yanks the way the Tribe has been playing throughout the DS. Only thing that is looking good are the Ks, and those might be hard to come by in a must win Game 3 even in home turf.

[RP]

Report: Steinbrenner says Torre's job on the line against Indians
ESPN.com news services

Updated: October 7, 2007, 10:07 AM ET
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As New York stands on the brink of elimination in the first round of the playoffs for the third season in a row, owner George Steinbrenner says longtime manager Joe Torre needs to advance in the postseason if he wants to keep managing the Yankees.


"His job is on the line," Steinbrenner told the Bergen Record. "I think we're paying him a lot of money. He's the highest-paid manager in baseball, so I don't think we'd take him back if we don't win this series."

Torre makes $7 million a season and is in the final year of his contract. The Cleveland Indians lead the Yankees 2-0 in their American League Division Series.

Roger Clemens will take the mound for New York while Jake Westbrook will start for the Indians.

During his 12 years leading the Yankees, Torre has taken the Bronx Bombers to 12 consecutive playoff appearances and four World Series titles.

"He's been good for us over the years," Steinbrenner acknowledged to the paper.

Steinbrenner also had some choice words about retiring veteran umpire Bruce Froemming and his decision to play through the late-game bug infestation during Friday's Game 3 extra-inning victory for the Indians.


"The umpire was full of [expletive]," Steinbrenner told the paper. "He won't umpire our games anymore."







wowwwwwwwwwwwwwww

[Innovator]

Fucking Steinbrenner, Torre got us to the playoffs when we were left for dead by everyone.

How about you get rid of cancers onthe payroll like Pavano and get some good pitching

[Dragon]

Thats sure to get the players to stop pressing. Not only is the season on the line, but the manager that they have all said they want back has his job on the line.

[Loose Cannon]

they better win this fuckin game.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>lol Steinbrenner. Holy shit.</font>

[Loose Cannon]

come on though, you guys knew that was coming. I said that the other night to my fiancee that something was going to come out on Sunday that somebody's job is on the line

[Dragon]

Yeah, I'm sure a lot of people were sensing something. But its different when Steinbrenner comes out and says it. Like I said before, this either gets them fired up or puts more pressure on them and they keep pressing.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

ROFL Steinbrenner is such a joke, HE WON'T UMPIRE OUR GAMES ANYMORE!!

The bugs where there for both teams, its not like they where only bothering the Yankee players or something.

I hope Torre does get fired because I think hes a great fit for that type of team, he might not be the best manager decision wise but he is able to work with a locker room full of the type players they bring in. I feel the same way about Terry Francona, he makes a lot of decision that level me thining "the fuck?" but he knows really knows to handle a locker room full of big money players and his results have been pretty good (playoffs 3 outta 4 years, 1 World Series Championship, 1 Division Title) I'm the biggest Yankee hater there is, but if you can think you can just write off Joe Torre because he coaches the team with the highest payroll than thats just dumb. I mean pretty sure the Mets are the 3rd highest aren't they? Look where that got them

Really hope Torre gets fired though, would be the best thing to happen to the Red Sox in a while

[FakeLaser]

Basically, this is the biggest game the Yankees have played in about 5 years.

[FakeLaser]

DO IT FOR JOE

I am probably going to cry if we lose tonight. I'm not even kidding. The end of an era. The team I grew up with.

[Evil Vito]

ROFL Steinbrenner is such a joke, HE WON'T UMPIRE OUR GAMES ANYMORE!!

<font color=goldenrod>Yeah that's hilarious...especially since MLB decides the umps.

I'd like to see the game end like this: First and second, two out...A-Rod at the plate. Base hit to the outfield somewhere, ball is thrown in, close play....Bruce's decision. Rules the man out to end the game as Bruce flips off the owner's box and leaves.

Would be a hell of a way to retire.</font> :cool:

[FakeLaser]

Yeah, way to get the umps on our side George

[Dragon]

DO IT FOR JOE

I am probably going to cry if we lose tonight. I'm not even kidding. The end of an era. The team I grew up with.

Yeah, feeling the same way. I don't think we would even be in the playoffs if it weren't for Torre this year. He was able to handle the team and get everything back on track, IMO. Who would have thought getting to the playoffs 12 straight years in a row would mean so little. I mean seriously, the man has never missed the playoffs in his whole time here and the Yankees haven't missed them in more than a decade. You can say it is the Yankees payroll that got them there every year but that's not gonna convince me. A lot of high payroll teams have not come close to the postseason.

[FakeLaser]

I wonder how much the landscape of the team will change if Joe is gone. All of the players pretty much said they want to play for Joe. With so many question marks out there, who is going to be back? We could be looking at a very different Yankee team next year.

[Innovator]

Fuck if Torre goes, I don't know if Posada will re-sign. Then we be fucked

[MVP]

Yeah Torre doesn't deserve to go. He should finish his career there. Steinbrenner is totally senile.

[FakeLaser]

Perhaps he's just bluffing to fire the team up. Who knows. Hopefully we'll win these next 3 games and not have to cross that bridge.

[ClockShot]

This is Torre's last year. If he comes back, he comes back. I want to know what Brian Cashman's future is going to be. He was on the chopping block first last I heard.

Besides, think of what the fans might do if Joe doesn't come back.

On a side note. Yes. We must win tonight.

[FakeLaser]

Why would Cashman be on the chopping block? He's done a great job. I don't think there's any arguing that.

[ClockShot]

Well? That's what Steinbrenner said earlier in the year.

Shit. For all we know, George might be having a bad case of alzheimer's or something right now.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Cashman should stay. Keeping Hughes, Kennedy, and Joba was the smartest thing he could have done rather than trade a nut for Gagne.

If Joe goes though, gonna be interesting to see if Posada or Rivera re-sign. One of my friends thinks if Joe goes, Jeter might want a trade. I doubt that, but you never know.</font>

[Dragon]

And the Yankees are still alive.

Clemens was bad obviously. I've thought it before but I don't see any way he pitches next year. And if the Yankees make it to the next round I don't see him pitching ever again.

Hughes did an incredible job picking up the slack from Clemens. Probably saved our season right there. Damon with the huge game as well.

Also, how can you forget Trotman Nixon. He is my hero

[FakeLaser]

Hughesssssssssssssssssss

[Loose Cannon]

Nice god dam win. The Yankees finally showed up to play tonight. Hughes saved the season. LOL TROT Nixon. Fag

[SammyG]

Still only a matter of time before the Tribe advance.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

http://www.wfrfire.com/website/misc/tools/broom_big.jpg

[Azriel]

So much for a 4 for 4 sweep. Yanks get to fight another day. Wang better bring his A game

[RBM]

Wow. Fuck the Yankees.

Just die already.

[Innovator]

So much for a 4 for 4 sweep. Yanks get to fight another day. Wang better bring his A gameI got a feeling Moose is going to be on close call

[Hanso Amore]

Damon is a big game player.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>LOL this dumbass on a message board I visit thinks MLB should go the way of the NBA and NHL and have 16 teams in the playoffs :|

He proposed that, in order to do that...you have to start the playoffs in September. The first round will be best of 3 and will start in late September (the season can start a week earlier). The 3 division winners get the top 3 seeds, the other 5 are based on records. Tie records are decided by head-to-head results.

Then it gets even more clusterfucked because he said the whole "you can't play a team in the first round" rule would be in effect...so basically a team with say a #5 seed could wind up playing a #3 based solely on division. This would have been this year's first round games:

AL
Boston (1) vs. Minnesota (8)
New York (4) vs. Seattle (5)
Los Angeles (3) vs. Detroit (6)
Cleveland (2) vs. Toronto (7)

NL
Arizona (1) vs. Atlanta (8)
Colorado (4) vs. New York (5)
Chicago (3) vs. San Diego (6)
Philadelphia (2) vs. Milwaukee (7)

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Worst idea ever? Quite possibly.</font>

[FakeLaser]

Baseball would go well into November then.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Yeah, the guy said start the playoffs in early-to-mid September, causing the season to start in March.

But in March it might still be snowing in Boston and NY and other places. Plus you'd have spring training starting in January. The whole idea is fucked.

Personally, I don't mind the playoffs as they are...but if they were to increase teams, I'd go NFL-style. 12 teams, top 2 in each league get a bye. But the first round would be 1-game only before going into the DS as usual.

It'd be a huge advantage for the top 2 seeds cause not only do they get a break, but the other team would probably wind up using their ace pitcher in the 1 game.</font>

[Loose Cannon]

if The Yanks get to Byrd early, I think we may see Sabathia. If not, and the Yankees win, I could see Cleveland throwing Sabathia and Carmona tomorrow. That would scare me.

Moose should start, then go to Wang. Pettite tomorrow.

[MVP]

They shouldn't increase the teams at all. The last thing I wanna see is some 8th seed NL team below .500 in the World Series.

[Hanso Amore]

I think MLB has the best Playoffs right now. I hate how the NFL has bye teams,. They need only win 2 games, with homefield advantage to win the bowl. All teams should have to win the same amount of games. I dont like NBA and NHL, because too many teams make it. It should be onyl for the elite.

[Hanso Amore]

They shouldn't increase the teams at all. The last thing I wanna see is some 8th seed NL team below .500 in the World Series.

Amen

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Yeah I do like the playoffs as is. Just saying if they ever did want to increase teams...I'd rather see them go the NFL route rather than 16 fucking teams. Over half the league</font> :o

[SammyG]

This playoff format is best for baseball.

[Dragon]

if The Yanks get to Byrd early, I think we may see Sabathia. If not, and the Yankees win, I could see Cleveland throwing Sabathia and Carmona tomorrow. That would scare me.

Moose should start, then go to Wang. Pettite tomorrow.

Yeah, I just see them throwing Sabathia and Carmona at us if we get to game 5. That is a very scary thought.

Today its just Wang unless he gets into trouble. He needs to give us innings this game.

If we get to game 5 it is worrisome though. I don't think Pettitte will throw as good as that game 2 and I don't think Sabathia pitches as bad as he did game 1. But hey, I'll take anything if we can get there.

[Azriel]

Yeah LC, I think Torre said that if they did push a game 5 he was going to use Pettite

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Ron Villone's been added to the roster in place of the injured Roger Clemens.

Odd, I always thought that your 25-man playoff roster for each round was set in stone, even if injuries happen.</font>

[Dragon]

I think it was a new rule that just changed for the postseason this year.

[Hanso Amore]

I think it was a new rule that just changed for the postseason this year.

I am pretty sure your right.

[toxic rooster]

tonight will all depend on how well Wang controls his sinker. Last time out he hung too many pitches and the rest is history.

Hoping Byrd can do the business tonight. Or at the very least, keep CC fresh for Game 5.

ps what day is the ALCS scheduled to start? :o

[Loose Cannon]

bottom 6th. intense.

[ClockShot]

A cloud of sadness is slowly moving across the empire right now.

This isn't looking good fellas.

:'(

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

lol wow A-Rod's first postseason RBI since 2004

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>This is gonna be REAL interesting if the Indians get these last 3 outs.

What will happen to the likes of Posada and Mo, and possibly even Jeter? Is their loyalty with the team or with Joe?</font>

[McLegend]

lol this game is gonna come down to A-Rod in the 9th

[Loose Cannon]

Yankee fans, remember this inning

[Loose Cannon]

:'(

[Innovator]

BOBBY

[Loose Cannon]

why are they torturing us? 6-4

[Innovator]

Down to Jorge

[Innovator]

DAMMIT

[Loose Cannon]

HOLY SHIT, FOUL

[Innovator]

FUCK

Good job Jorge, you just lost Joe's job

[Dragon]

I just died a little on the inside

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

The 2007 New York Yankees, the best team in baseball

[weather vane]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

HOW BOUT THEM YANKEES!!!!!?!?!?!!

[Innovator]

God fucking dammit

[Innovator]

The 2007 New York Yankees, the best team in baseballActually everyone says you guys are the best, have fun with Sabathia and Carmona

[Loose Cannon]

another young team

[Innovator]

Hopefully we can get some decent starting pitching

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Gonna go with Colorado vs. Boston in the WS.</font>

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Actually everyone says you guys are the best, have fun with Sabathia and Carmona
Not FakeRazor

[McLegend]

Basically it's been proven with the Yankees and Phillies that offense alone will not win in the Playoffs.

[Loose Cannon]

god, so frustrating. you think back to April and now your here and your just like wtf?

[Loose Cannon]

feels like we're the Braves of the 21st century

[Innovator]

Actually after tbs sucked off the Indians all series long, I hope they get their shit pushed in