MLB 2007 Season Thread

[mrslackalack]

Say A-Rod hit his 500th HR and didnt hit no more the rest of the season (which a season ending injury would be the only way that happened) He would have to avg 30 HR a season for 10 seasons to be at exactly 800 HR.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

God ESPN has tumbled downhill. Baseball Tonight used to be the greatest show on television but now they can't even hire an analyst who doesn't stutter. Eric Young and Eduardo Perez fucking suck.

[OssMan]

What would happen if Bonds and A-Rod were at bat at the same time? How would ESPN know what to show? The world would probably explode

[OssMan]

On another note, how can anyone say that Hank Aaron wasn't on steroids? Nobody outside of sports even knew what they were at the time, and there was no drug testing or anything

[McLegend]

God ESPN has tumbled downhill. Baseball Tonight used to be the greatest show on television but now they can't even hire an analyst who doesn't stutter. Eric Young and Eduardo Perez fucking suck.
They need to rehire Harold Reynolds.

[SammyG]

are you fucking kidding me, Penny's hurt now. He still got his 13th win though. Meh, I'm sure he'll make his next start. This injury bug is terrible though.

[Hanso Amore]

They need to rehire Harold Reynolds.


Word.

Ravech, Reynolds and Gammons was a great line Up. It was even good when they added Kruk.

I can barely watch it anymore.

[SammyG]

Why did he get fired again? Hugging a bitch?

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Gonna be interesting to see what happens when the Yanks and O's pick up their suspended game from June 28th.

If A-Rod hits a home run in it, then the homer he hit on Wednesday would statistically be considered #500.</font> :o

[Innovator]

Why did he get fired again? Hugging a bitch?Basically

[YOUR Hero]

are you fucking kidding me, Penny's hurt now. He still got his 13th win though. Meh, I'm sure he'll make his next start. This injury bug is terrible though.

This is Penny's M.O. He seems to break down in the 2nd half. I hope for your sake, it's something minor, it sounds like the beginning of the same old - same old.

[SammyG]

He'll be fine. 13-1 baby. 13-0 against the NL

[FakeLaser]

Interesting little bit here:

KANSAS CITY -- How's this for a twist? For record-keeping purposes, Alex Rodriguez may have already hit his 500th home run.

The statistical confusion stems from the June 28 suspended game at Baltimore, which the Yankees are primed to complete Friday prior to their regularly scheduled game against the Orioles.

For all intents and purposes, Rodriguez is stuck in a time warp in his chase for 500 home runs. Thus, he could conceivably hit career homer No. 493 at Baltimore on Friday, making his homer Wednesday off Kansas City's Gil Meche No. 500, as statistics in the suspended game will be attributed to having occurred June 28.

"It is a little unusual, when you consider the stats count in that game, even though the result has not been decided yet," said Yankees manager Joe Torre. "Go figure that one out."

The Yankees were leading Baltimore 8-6 when umpires halted play in the top of the eighth inning, leaving Rodriguez on deck. Rodriguez is 0-for-3 with an RBI in the frozen contest.

Rodriguez, who is virtually assured of becoming the youngest player to ever hit 500 home runs whenever he does accomplish the feat, hit what he believed to be his 499th in the eighth inning Wednesday off Meche, a line-drive two-run shot to right-center.

But if Rodriguez homers in Friday's suspended game, statistical records would indicate that the home run off Meche was in fact his 500th career home run.

All of Rodriguez's round-number milestones have come on the road: he hit No. 100 on Aug. 12, 1998, at Toronto; No. 200 on May 21, 2001, at Chicago; No. 300 on April 2, 2003, at Anaheim; and No. 400 on June 8, 2005, at Milwaukee.

Rodriguez entered Thursday leading the Major Leagues with 35 home runs and 102 RBIs, and is the first player in history to hit 35 or more home runs and drive in 100 or more runs in 10 consecutive seasons. He's batting .311 for the Yankees, who trail the Red Sox by 6 1/2 games for the American League East lead.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

YOUKILIS WITH A 3 RUN DINGER

[mrslackalack]

BRING BACK HAROLD REYNOLDS ESPN!

[mrslackalack]

After all that talk of big names getting traded it only seems that the likely guys to get traded are Tex, Garland, and Contereas.

[Boomer]

Yunel Excobar might have just pulled off the coolest thing I've ever seen. Too bad the Braves are still tied and might lose after being down 7-0.

[Boomer]

*sigh*

[SammyG]

Lowe, Penny, Wolf, all hurting. Schmidt already on the DL. This is terrible. We have to have Hendrickson and Tomko in our rotation regularly now.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Mets apparently really interested in Chad Cordero

I'd like it...just as long as it doesn't cost too much</font>

[mrslackalack]

These division races are getting tight, espcially how the NL West is a 3 team race.

[SammyG]

Umm yyeahhh looks like Bonds is gonna break the record against LA :(

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

RED SOX BACK TO A 9 GAME LEAD WOOOOO

[ClockShot]

A few trade tidbits. Some you might know already, some happened overnight.

Indians acquire outfielder Kenny Lofton from the Texas Rangers for catcher Max Ramirez

White Sox acquired pitcher Michael Dubee from the Philadelphia Phillies for second baseman Tadahito Iguchi.

Devil Rays acquired pitchers Calvin Medlock and Brian Shackelford and future considerations from the Cincinnati Reds for infielder Jorge Cantu, outfielder Shaun Cumberland and cash.

I remember someone here saying Ty Wigginton being floated around.

Devil Rays acquired pitcher Dan Wheeler from the Houston Astros for infielder Ty Wigginton.

[ClockShot]

And also. Shea Hillenbrand has a job again. Padres picked him up on a minor league deal.

[SammyG]

I hate the fucking Padres. Also, WTF @ the Diamondbacks not losing ever.

[YOUR Hero]

Actually I'm a Padres fan, 3 times removed. Seeing them pick up Hillenbrand upsets me.

[The Miz]

So apparently Jose Canseco is going to bring to light A-Rod's history of steroid use in his latest book. LOL, yessssssssssssssssssssssss

[FakeLaser]

God I hate Farnsworth.

[Dragon]

Seriously awful. He has had something like three 1-2-3 innings all year. He pretty much needs to be the mop-up man now.

[Dragon]

Its actually pretty funny because lately the Yankees have been keeping Farnsworth under wraps and not letting him pitch much. I'm guessing that was to preserve whatever trade value he somehow had.

[SammyG]

God damnit Dodgers, wtf. Beat the fucking Rockies! NL West is a sick division.

[FakeLaser]

Some good trades made all around thus far. I really like Wheeler to the D-Rays.

The latest talk is that we're going to make a move for Gagne. I don't know the hell we would give up for him though. I'm hearing Ian Kennedy and someone else. I don't really think it will get done though. Imagine that, a bullpen with Mariano Rivera and Eric Gagne. Ridiculous.

[Dragon]

Hopefully its not Kennedy. Kennedy is pretty much our #3 pitching prospect behind Hughes and Joba right now and it would suck to lose him for half a year of injury-proned Gagne. Unless they can get Gagne to extend his contract it would kind of be a waste. And I doubt he'd do that because I'm guessing he wants to close. A Gagne/Rivera 8 and 9th would be nice to think about though.

[YOUR Hero]

Tampa's move to improve their bullpen in the last two trades shows that a team can make the proper improvements at the trade deadline even when they aren't in the race.

I'm quite certain I've mentioned it before, that it's my opinion that if the DRays can improve heir pitching starter and relief they will be the team of the future in the AL East.

[YOUR Hero]

Reading about the Mariner's interest in Kei Igawa. Now I'm sure a certain pair of Japanese players in Seattle might like that, but hasn't Igawa proven himself a flop?

Not so sure that's the arm the Mariners need.

[The Miz]

Yeah no.

[YOUR Hero]

Yeah, that's my feelings on it too.

[mrslackalack]

Ensburg is done with the Astros.

[mrslackalack]

I read a lot of teams were interested in Dimitri Young espically the Padres, Braves, and many of the AL contenders as a DH but the Nats signed him to an extension. I heard that the Reds might trade Scott Hatteberg to the Padres for a middle relief prospect.

[YOUR Hero]

So apparently Jose Canseco is going to bring to light A-Rod's history of steroid use in his latest book. LOL, yessssssssssssssssssssssss


OH JOSE!

What if any insight would he have on Arod?

I think (unless he really does have something) he should stay quiet

[Dragon]

All the other people he "outed" or whatever were teammates so not sure what he could really know or talk about.


"The last time Jose Canseco put pen to paper, all of baseball quaked.

He promises to do it again - and this time he says he'll have something to say about Alex Rodriguez. Canseco, who wrote "Juiced," his 2005 book detailing his use of steroids with Mark McGwire, Juan Gonzalez, Rafael Palmeiro, Pudge Rodriguez and others, says he has another book in the works, due this fall.

He told Boston's WEEI Radio on Friday that he had "other stuff" on A-Rod that will be coming out. When asked directly if Rodriguez had used steroids, Canseco replied: "Wait and see."

Rodriguez cut off a question about Canseco's comments yesterday after being asked in Baltimore if he had heard the former slugger's words, saying, "Nope, I haven't. And I have no comment."

As the Daily News first reported, Canseco took his turn before former Sen. George Mitchell last year, giving up names and making an offer to help Mitchell in his investigation into steroid use in baseball.

"Until someone like Jose is part of the investigation as an investigator, they aren't going to get much cooperation," Canseco's attorney, Rob Saunooke, told The News then. "Jose could meet face-to-face with some of the individuals, use his own friendship with them and knowledge of them and talk with them comfortably. If Jose sits down face-to-face with you and reminds you of all the good times, then he says, 'It's time for us to come clean with these things.'"

Saunooke did not reveal the additional names Canseco gave investigators, but said his client also named front-office people who may have had knowledge of steroid use in the game. The interview was "just to detail more about what he's already put in the book, from a player participation level, but also managers, trainers, administrators, or people who would have known or been apprised of what was going on," Saunooke said. "



http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/ba...f_on_arod.html


LOL, really seems like he's just trying to build up his book any way he can by mentioning A-Rod. I think A-Rod is too self-conscious of his own image and how other people see him to take steroids. Obviously I wouldn't be incredibly surprised to hear anyone taking steroids though.

[FakeLaser]

I don't think A-Rod was on roids but like Dragon said, nobody would shock me.

[darkpower]

I don't think A-Rod was on roids but like Dragon said, nobody would shock me.

A-Rod has roid RAGE about every other WEEK, so it wouldn't surprise me, either.

[Hanso Amore]

Tampa's move to improve their bullpen in the last two trades shows that a team can make the proper improvements at the trade deadline even when they aren't in the race.

I'm quite certain I've mentioned it before, that it's my opinion that if the DRays can improve heir pitching starter and relief they will be the team of the future in the AL East.

I agree. I thought they might be a surprise team to make some noise this year. But in a division with 3 500+ teams (2 of which are the twop 2 Franchises in the AL historically) they usually get lost in the shuffle. If they can keep Crawford, they have a really nice core in the field and at bat. Upton finally found a spot, and it looks like they have locked down their infield (Iwamura/Pena/HArris/Upton) not the best but a decent INF. Then in the ourfield Young is going to be an All Star, Crawford is a top notch 5 tool player, and they have Rocco and Dukes in CF. They have some nice pieces to trade too. I would send Baldelli away for a Bottom of the Rotation starter.

If they keep developing prospects the way they do, and if they can just lock down a few key contracts and put a little more money in, they could be the Next Florida Marlins Circa 2003.

On a side note, I used to Love Pena with Oakland/Detroit, I thought he was the next big thing, Im glad to see him finally get his chance.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>ESPN reporting that the deal is done. Mark Texeira and Ron Mahay to Atlanta. Jarod Saltalamacchia and 3 minor leaguers to Texas.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Mets reportedly really interested in Luis Castillo. :|

Fuck no. He has 14 extra base hits all season and Ruben Gotay is hitting like Ted Williams.</font>

[SammyG]

lol @ Mets

[Hanso Amore]

<font color=goldenrod>ESPN reporting that the deal is done. Mark Texeira and Ron Mahay to Atlanta. Jarod Saltalamacchia and 3 minor leaguers to Texas.</font>

Damn, I have heard good things about Saltalamacchia, but hell, Texas isnt getting much for Teixiera in a Sellers market.

[OssMan]

Normally I'd be all for Luis Castillo but Goat has been one of my favorite players this year and is not even playing every day for some reason.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Gotay is admittedly balls against lefties...but that's what Easley is for.

Gotay/Easley platoon > Castillo</font>

[The Miz]

Everyone always says "Oh Jose is just trying to get attention" but he is yet to be wrong about an accusation

[The Miz]

About ARod, I wouldn't be surprised at all, and that's not just because I hate him. When he got to the Rangers these guys were on the team: Pudge Rodriguez, Rafael Palmeiro, Ruben Sierra, Randy Velarde, Juan Gonzalez and Ken Caminiti. So there was obviously rampant steroid use when he got to that team, not that that makes him guilty but I've always thought this squeaky clean image he tries to convey is total bullshit.

[YOUR Hero]

I'm not disputing Jose, I'm just saying I hope he isn't just trying to capture more attention. I mean, why wouldn't he have told all in the first book? Part of me is skeptical but I know that he's the one that had the last laugh last time around. Plus, it's not like he's saying ARod is on juice, he hasn't said what he's "got" on ARod so we're all a bit speculative here.

I can totally see this book pointing fingers at the managers, trainers, etc.

[Boomer]

If the Braves can land a starter from somewhere, I'll be happy with this trade deadline.

[FakeLaser]

I agree. I thought they might be a surprise team to make some noise this year. But in a division with 3 500+ teams (2 of which are the twop 2 Franchises in the AL historically) they usually get lost in the shuffle. If they can keep Crawford, they have a really nice core in the field and at bat. Upton finally found a spot, and it looks like they have locked down their infield (Iwamura/Pena/HArris/Upton) not the best but a decent INF. Then in the ourfield Young is going to be an All Star, Crawford is a top notch 5 tool player, and they have Rocco and Dukes in CF. They have some nice pieces to trade too. I would send Baldelli away for a Bottom of the Rotation starter.

If they keep developing prospects the way they do, and if they can just lock down a few key contracts and put a little more money in, they could be the Next Florida Marlins Circa 2003.

On a side note, I used to Love Pena with Oakland/Detroit, I thought he was the next big thing, Im glad to see him finally get his chance.
I think Dukes was DFA'ed.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>After losing 4 top prospects to get Tex, the Braves are also about to snag Dotel apparently</font>

[The Miz]

Well Jose claims that 85% of baseball is on roids so obviously he couldn't have included every player in the first book. Tejada, Giambi, McGwire, Juan Gon and Pudge was a nice start. I'm just hoping eventually he, or someone, gets to Clemens

[YOUR Hero]

Well good 'ol Jose has got himself a great second carreer going on now

[YOUR Hero]

tommorow is the trade dealine? (non waiver)

[SammyG]

I'm sure the managers are on roids as well.

[KingofOldSchool]

<font color=goldenrod>After losing 4 top prospects to get Tex, the Braves are also about to snag Dotel apparently</font>


:love: :love: :love: :heart: :heart:

I just hope Tex works out for us and we won't be regretting this trade years from now.

Although I'm sure we can get those guys back in 4-5 years knowing the Rangers. :lol:

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Mets got Castillo.....but as it turns out they gave up basically nothing for him so it's all good</font>

[Supreme Olajuwon]

lol the Phillies traded for Kyle Lohse. He is 2-9 with a 6.42 ERA on the road this year. Should be pretty money come crunch time eh?

[FakeLaser]

Teixieria and Dotel (soon enough) should hand the Braves the NL East.

I like the deal for Texas, Saltalamalalatalachilamachia is gonna be a beast soon.

[Boomer]

Salty could be good, but he wasn't wowing me as much near the end of his stint. Such a small portion to really prove anything, but he his like 0-9 with the bases loaded.

Oh and the Dotel deal is supposedly for Kyle Davies...fine with me.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Not really sure what the Phillies were thinking getting Kyle Lohse...but I like it.

In a way, the Castillo move really solidifies the Mets bench. Castillo will play everyday from the get-go I'm sure, but Gotay will still likely get his share of playing time.</font>

[FakeLaser]

Dotel is kind of fragile but I think he'll be a good solution for Atlanta. Davies is no more than a #3 but he's pretty young so it's a deal I see working out for both sides, especially since the Royals have Joakim Soria who is lights out.

[YOUR Hero]

Phillies were interested in Josh Towers but instead went and picked up Lohse or however you spell it. Kinda glad that Towers hasn't been moved (yet) He's been playing really well as of late and could regain his form. If he does, I'd like to see it done as a Jay rather than as a *insert team name here*

[YOUR Hero]

Dotel is kind of fragile but I think he'll be a good solution for Atlanta. Davies is no more than a #3 but he's pretty young so it's a deal I see working out for both sides, especially since the Royals have Joakim Soria who is lights out.

Soria wants to be a starter. Read a good article on the guy in SI earlier this year. Might be Grienke that becomes the Royals closer.

[FakeLaser]

I wouldn't have much faith in Towers. He has below average stuff and can't spot his pitches. He needs serious work.

[FakeLaser]

Soria wants to be a starter. Read a good article on the guy in SI earlier this year. Might be Grienke that becomes the Royals closer. Either way it works. Soria or Greinke both have the ability to close or start. I don't know what to make of Greinke in either situation, however. He's a good pitcher with a really high ceiling but he's a big time head case. I don't know if he has the closer mentality, though it's not like he's in a big pressure city or anything.

[YOUR Hero]

He can spot his pitches, that's the problem though. He fell apart because he was actually pitching too many strikes. A pitcher has to use the inside/outside of his plate against a batter. He's no Maddux, but that the mold *of* he comes from.

(speaking of Towers)

[FakeLaser]

You're right, especially since I looked at the guy's walk totals (never walked more than 29 in a season, ridiculous). Too many meatball strikes, not a power pitcher and can't work the corners.

[mrslackalack]

Lohse is a pitcher that can give you 12 K's one start then the next start give up 6 earned runs in 1 inning.

[mrslackalack]

I read the Yanks, Tigers. Red Sox, and the Mets are now the favorites to get Gagne. I read if the Yankees get Gagne they will get rid of Proctor and Farnsworth.

[YOUR Hero]

Gagne has to approve any trade. He wishes to be a closer, so teams like Boston and NYY really aren't going to get him.

[OssMan]

Gonna make a guess here and say that the Mets gave up 1 or more white players in order to acquire Hispanic Luis Castillo.

[mrslackalack]

True, in Boston and NYY he will be in Relief. However they say that the Tigers would use him as a closer and either trade Jones or move him to Relief

[mrslackalack]

The Braves got Tex that the Phillies and Mets made quick deals to improve shortly afterwards. This will be an interesting race. What hurts the Phillies though is Utleys injury.

[Dragon]

Gagne has a list of teams he has to approve a trade to. I think Boston and Detroit are on that list. NY isn't.

[mrslackalack]

Think the Red Sox might get Dye? I know they have some OFs but Dye I think would fit in well with them.

[Boomer]

So the Dotel trade is far from done. But if its getting done it wont be long now.

[mrslackalack]

I read that the Braves are trying to work out a deal to get Bronson Arroyo from the Reds.

[mrslackalack]

Some Proposed Trades I read about

This would suprise me if this one happened
Mets get:
Adam Dunn
Ken Griffey Jr.

Reds get:
Carlos Beltran
Lastings Millledge

Red Sox get:
Jermaine Dye

White Sox get:
Wily Mo Pena
Pitching Prospect

[Hanso Amore]

Some Proposed Trades I read about

This would suprise me if this one happened
Mets get:
Adam Dunn
Ken Griffey Jr.

Reds get:
Carlos Beltran
Lastings Millledge

Red Sox get:
Jermaine Dye

White Sox get:
Wily Mo Pena
Pitching Prospect


I can see the Sox to Sox trade happening, makes alot of sense on both sides. The reds mets trade will never happen.

[YOUR Hero]

I don't see why the Mets would give up Beltran and Milledge for Dunn and Griffey.


anyway fucking Mets fans...


NEW YORK (Reuters) - A New York man has been charged with beating his mother to death with a barbell after losing his temper while watching a baseball game on television.
Michael Anthony, 25, was watching the New York Mets lose a game on Saturday from his home in the borough of Queens when he began furiously banging on the walls, Queens District Attorney Richard Brown said in a statement on Monday.
His father Fred Fischman shouted at him to stop, but Anthony punched him in the face and threw him to the ground, according to the criminal charges.
When Anthony's mother, Maria Fischman, 61, tried to intervene, prosecutors said he stabbed her once in the head with a knife before chasing her into a bedroom where he struck her several times with the 20 pound (9 kilogram) barbell.
"It is difficult to imagine a crime more heinous than that of a son viciously attacking his parents and, in the process, fatally beating his mother to death," Brown said.
Anthony has been remanded in custody and faces a maximum of life in prison if convicted.

[FakeLaser]

Some Proposed Trades I read about

This would suprise me if this one happened
Mets get:
Adam Dunn
Ken Griffey Jr.

Reds get:
Carlos Beltran
Lastings Millledge

Red Sox get:
Jermaine Dye

White Sox get:
Wily Mo Pena
Pitching Prospect
Victor Zambrano Pt. II - By Omar Minaya

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Its fucking horrible that JD Drew sucks so bad that the Red Sox are forced to give up a pretty big pitching prospect in order to get a guy who can platoon with him in right field

[OssMan]

Howard Johnson can fix Adam Dunn in 5 minutes

[SammyG]

Dodgers pushing hard for Blanton. We need pitching help badly.

[YOUR Hero]

Its fucking horrible that JD Drew sucks so bad that the Red Sox are forced to give up a pretty big pitching prospect in order to get a guy who can platoon with him in right field

oh come on. He's got 6 HRS and 40RBI to go along with that .248 batting avg. what more where you expecting from a guy that signed for @ 70 million??

[YOUR Hero]

Dodgers pushing hard for Blanton. We need pitching help badly.


<TABLE class=yspcontent cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=974 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class="" vAlign=top width=720>Joe Blanton: Dodgers Asking About Blanton

<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD height=7><SPACER height="1" width="1" type="block"></TD></TR><TR><TD class=yspsctnhdln>Joe Blanton: Dodgers Asking About Blanton
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Tuesday, July 31, 2007 Update: The Dodgers have asked Oakland about trading for Blanton, ESPN reports. Recommendation: The report says the two sides were talking about a package of three "frontline" prospects, but that negotiations have since cooled. The Dodgers are working the phones to try and trade for a starter, but this doesn't sound likely.
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[SammyG]

God damnit

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Highly doubt the Beltran/Milledge for Dunn/Griffey deal is true. Heard nothing about it on local radio/in the NY Daily News

I would absolutely LOVE getting Gagne though. It'd probably cost Milledge (or Carlos Gomez) (or Fernando Martinez). Guess that's the positive to having 3 ridiculous CF prospects.

Wagner and Gagne as a two-headed closer would =</font> :drool:

[The Miz]

A's need pitching prsopects. Dodgers ain't got none. Not gonna work

[The Miz]

Yankees get:
3B Wilson Betemit

Dodgers get:
RP Scott Proctor

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

oh come on. He's got 6 HRS and 40RBI to go along with that .248 batting avg. what more where you expecting from a guy that signed for @ 70 million??
lol I guess I can't really blame him, I would have signed the contract too if a team was dumb enough to offer me that much money. As I've said before, Theo gets a hard-on for certain players and HAS to sign them, it really blows my mind too because he seems to make pretty good decisions in all the other aspects of running a team.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

The Red Sox have dealt RHP Joel Pineiro and cash to the Cardinals for a player to be named later.

lol MAKE THAT MONEY SON

Also, just heard that the White Sox might have to take this deal since there are no better offers coming in

White Sox get:
Wily Mo Pena
Craig Hansen

Red Sox get:
Jermaine Dye
Minor league prospect

I really can't believe the White Sox would do this because A.) Craig Hansen has a major league contract and makes 1 mil a year B.) he isn't even good and C.) Manny Delcaremen is way better and is already in the majors. I've heard a lot of reports it was going to be Delcaremen but if the combination of Hansen/Pena is enough for the White Sox then that is pretty fucking sweet.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Hearing now that the Gagne hunt is down to the Brewers and Red Sox. :(

Mets apparently rapidly exchanging names with the Nationals for Chad Cordero.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>LOL Steve Phillips just went on about how Bonds WILL break the record in San Francisco...even if it means manipulating playing time or Bonds purposely tanking.

When told that the Giants would be playing teams with chances at the postseason, he said "it doesn't matter...the record is more important".

Fucking idiot.</font>

[Dragon]

Heard that Gagne deal is close with the Red Sox. Just depends on his consent.

Okajima-Gagne-Papelbon? Crazy. The Sox could get that last piece that would push their pen over the top while the Yankees get Betemit...and take away from their biggest weakness in the pen.

[Splaya]

Detroit should be fine not to pick up another reliever. If Zumaya comes back healthy then they will be fine. One of the big things that made Detroit so successful last season was your starters throwing 88-95 mph, Zumaya throwing 100 mph and then Jones coming in and throwing 85-90. It throws off people like crazy.

[Splaya]

Heard that Gagne deal is close with the Red Sox. Just depends on his consent.

Okajima-Gagne-Papelbon? Crazy. The Sox could get that last piece that would push their pen over the top while the Yankees get Betemit...and take away from their biggest weakness in the pen.

Not trying to steal your thunder, but that is sick. I would compare it to Rodney-Zumaya-Jones of the Tigers of last year.

[Dragon]

I will be pretty disappointed if all Cashman does is deal Proctor...the whole point of this deadline was for improving the bullpen. Instead of doing that it looks like he made the pen even worse.

[Adder]

They'll just use Farnsworth more.

[Dragon]

The less of Farnsworth I see the better. Unless I am seeing him on another team, facing the Yankees.

If this deadline shapes up to be the Yankees losing Proctor and keeping Farnsworth then it is an awful job by Cashman. Still 40 minutes to deal Farnsworth, although I can't see it happening with Proctor being dealt unfortunately.

[Adder]

Still lots of deals happen after this trade deadline.

[Hanso Amore]

Proctor Sucks, it just makes room for one of the studs from the minors. Britton Baby

[VonErichLives]

Dye & Gange...

wow...

what a day in Boston...

now if the Bruins could just do something huge... like sell to a new owner!

[SammyG]

Sox get Gagne, Celts get Garnett, Pats are gonna be amazing, it's good to be a Boston fan huh? Also, meh, Betemit is a piece of shit, glad we got rid of him. Hope Proctor can help us out here.

[Dragon]

Proctor isn't great but he doesn't suck. Its still a hit to lose him from the pen for a bench player who will probably never even play anyway.

The fact that the Yankees didn't get relief help/actually traded away one of their better relievers is putting a ton of pressure on the young guys to step up no? We are still in a playoff race and to put that pressure on some of those guys is asking quite a lot.

And there is no one in the minors who you can expect to pitch as many innings as Proctor. Even if Britton can replace Proctor our bullpen still sucks because it would be like standing pat at the deadline, and thats if he could replace Proctor.

[FakeLaser]

I still don't know what we need Betemit for. I guess Cairo is done? Insurance for A-Rod?

Proctor wasn't that bad. If anything, he ate innings. One less arm out there, though I guess it makes way for the likes of Chris Britton and Joba Chamberlain.

[FakeLaser]

Padres got Morgan Ensberg.

Pirates got Matt Morris.

Whatever

[FakeLaser]

7th - Hideki Okajima
8th - Eric Gagne
9th - Jonathan Papelbon

Pretty disgusting...

[SammyG]

Yeah, Sox are ridiculous

[Dragon]

Yeah, I'm really not understand it that much. Betemit pretty much replaces Cairo who plays about 1 or 2 times every couple weeks. Its just stupid because now we have to replace Proctor's innings and add a couple more to improve the pen. We need a couple young guys to be solid in the pen just to see any improvement.

I can understand not getting Gagne though, because they wanted Kennedy or Melky which really wouldn't have worked for a half year rental.

[SammyG]

We needed pitching help, we needed a guy to eat up innings, because our starters aren't going that deep anymore, and our bullpen is banged up. Yeah seems that the Dodgers got the better end of that deal.

[Dragon]

Although with people coming back the Yankees do improve, and at the cost of nothing. Hughes is probably pitching Saturday, Joba is coming up, Karstens will be back soon. Then Britton and Ramirez. So that pretty much should improve the #5 spot, long man for the pen, and a couple relievers. Still putting some pressure on them though during a playoff push.

[SammyG]

Penny pitching tonight I see. So that should be a W. 14-1 baby.

[Dragon]

We needed pitching help, we needed a guy to eat up innings, because our starters aren't going that deep anymore, and our bullpen is banged up. Yeah seems that the Dodgers got the better end of that deal.

I guess its pretty fair. It just seemed like a weird time to make the trade for the Yankees. The problem everyone was thinking with Proctor is that his arm would be dead soon with the way Torre used him. And Betemit would be a good pinch-hitter off the bench if we actually needed one. I've heard he is insurance if A-Rod leaves but I can't see him being a good enough option.

Boras was Gagne's agent right? He seems to have a decent relationship with the Red Sox - Dice-K, Drew, Gagne all in the past year...Just a little nervous on what that could mean for A-Rod in the offseason.

[SammyG]

Betemit is terrible. But he showed flashes hitting PH HR's. You don't know what you're gonna get with this guy. I'm glad he is gone.

[VonErichLives]

the deal for Dye fell through... It's said they had a deal and then the White Sox wanted another top prospect thrown in...

The sox still need another bat, especially with Papi needing to rest/heel...

maybe Drew will get hot the last 2 months of the season...

and maybe the sun will shine every day and no global warming and....

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Garnett and Gagne WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW

I'm also not that upset about the Dye thing falling through anyway, I wasn't really sold on him this year plus I would hate to see them give up a good pitching prospect for a half year rental

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Actaully make that Garnett, Gagne, Okajima, Matsuzaka, Adalius Thomas, Randy Moss, Wes Welker and Dante Stallworth

Some solid pick ups for Boston Sports


<font size=1>(no mention of JD Drew)</font>

[Adder]

Yankees seem to be worried more about next year while Boston was going for it this year. Can't blame the Yankees, but I know their fans always expect them to make bold moves. As far as I'm concerned they're done for this year anyway, so it shows good judgment on Cashman's part not to go after a rental player and giving up a prospect or two. The Red Sox did the right thing. Even if Gabbard goes on to be a solid pitcher, Boston has a real shot at winning the WS this year.

[FakeLaser]

We needed pitching help, we needed a guy to eat up innings, because our starters aren't going that deep anymore, and our bullpen is banged up. Yeah seems that the Dodgers got the better end of that deal.
I wouldn't say that much. Proctor has pitched more innings than any reliever in baseball these past 2 seasons. He's as much of an injury risk as any bullpen arm out there. His inconsistency this year showcases that pretty well.

[FakeLaser]

There's no way the Yankees would rely on Betemit if A-Rod leaves. He's an improvement over Cairo though.

[Adder]

Don't forget to look at it like this, FraZor

By not brining in a rental guy (who you now feel compelled to try and resign) you leave a lot of money for ARod should he opt out and you're able to resign. If he does opt out and can't resign, you need to find a new 3B, you can toss a boatload of money at a Caberra (or whatever) without having more money invested in a rental player.
Losing Proctor may open a spot up again for an Igawa or Hughes. I expect the Yankees will put Hughes and/or Igawa into the bullpen once the rosters expand.

[Dragon]

Hughes is actually gonna be in the starting rotation I think. If he is an average pitcher the next couple months he would be a huge improvement over Igawa.

[Adder]

I can see putting him in the starting rotation, but that would mean someone from the rotation would be dropping down, unless they are going to go with 5+ starters. ?? Anyway, it would serve him well to pitch long relief this year if they still consider themselves contenders. If they don't, might as well make him a starter and stress to him that the rest of this year is to get comfortable with starting. No need heaping a ton of pressure on the guy.

[Adder]

Looks like Sammy Sosa has a real shot at reaching 100 RBIs. Who would have thought it. Don't think too many people (myself included) would have figured he'd have more RBIs than Ortiz or Manny at this stage of the season, or be 1 behind Pujols.

[Dragon]

He is just taking over Igawa's spot; I think Igawa was already sent down to AAA. He should have the stuff to be a decent #5 now. He doesn't even have to be very good to be better than Igawa.

[ClockShot]

Let's see. White Sox picked up Eric Gagne, Braves won the Mark Teixera lottery, Yankees are hitting dingers right now. WHAT THE HELL! DR. PROCTOR GETS TRADED! SOMEONE FILL ME IN!

[ClockShot]

GODZILLA IS ON THE LOOSE!

[YOUR Hero]

*Red Sox

Matsui is having a quietly good year.

[Hanso Amore]

for once NY doesnt make any moves and kept their future. They may have not gotten 30 games out of a crappy reliever (not much out there) but they guanteed that they have money for Arod (like that is an issue! ) and they kept the doors open for their young arms. Thy have the best young arms in the league and I just want to see them make it.

Add in the Melk Man and cano, and the yanks have a good yougn core for the first time since Pettite/jeter and company started popping in.

[Innovator]

8 different Yankees have hit a home run, except Jeter and A-Rod

[ClockShot]

I was cracking up when the crowd booed Farnsworth when he got to the mound. This might be a late wakeup call to Cashman.

[YOUR Hero]

but they guanteed that they have money for Arod (like that is an issue! )

actually I think money is an issue. Not just big dollars, by the # of years of the terms.

Even the Yankees can't go on spending so much money especially without the results. That's why I agree with most of what Adder typed up.

[mrslackalack]

There's no way the Yankees would rely on Betemit if A-Rod leaves. He's an improvement over Cairo though.

Maybe they will resign A-Rod or get a decent 3b like a Troy Glaus. They actually said this morning on First Take that the Angels and Yanks actually talked about a trade for A-Rod.

[mrslackalack]

This might be one of the best seasons ever for the stretch run for playoff spots considering how many divisions are in close races.

[Dragon]

Only 3 back in the wildcard. Obviously sucked that the Red Sox improved in the deadline, but pretty happy the Indians stood pat.

[Hardkore Kidd J]

In a way I'm kinda happy we didn't get Gagne.All in all it pays off in the end. Let's just look at it this way. We would have had to give up Melky a 22 year old center Fielder and Ian Kennedy a guy who alot of people are saying cou;d be a third pitcher on the 2008 five man roster. Gagne is what you call a " 2 month rental" . So in other words after this year I can pretty much guarentee you that Boras will get Gagne a closing job so unless Boston wants to give up Papelbon just so Gagne can close in 2008.( Stupid Decision right there) Gagne is as good as gone.

I've got a feeling A-Rod will stay. But unfortunately I had the same feeling about getting Matsazaka and Gagne. Another good thing is catching up with Boston was a stretch for us anyway even if we had actually signed Eric.

By not brining in a rental guy (who you now feel compelled to try and resign) you leave a lot of money for ARod should he opt out and you're able to resign. If he does opt out and can't resign, you need to find a new 3B, you can toss a boatload of money at a Caberra (or whatever) without having more money invested in a rental player.
Losing Proctor may open a spot up again for an Igawa or Hughes. I expect the Yankees will put Hughes and/or Igawa into the bullpen once the rosters expand.

I can tell you I don't want Hughes in the bullpen. I think he's more of a starter. Now losing Proctor opens up the chance to put Joba Chamberlain and or Igawa into the bull pen. I would much prefer Joba though.

[YOUR Hero]

Dave Roberts (SF Giant player) is asking Dodger fans to be respectful of Barry Bonds if and when he hits his milesone HR in LA.

LOL, ok, Dave.

[mrslackalack]

I think if the Yanks make the playoffs even if they go out again in the ALDS that Torre def deserves at least another season back after this rally they have made because it looked like they were completely out of it.

[mrslackalack]

LOL at Dave Roberts comments.

[mrslackalack]

BREAKING NEWS



Following in Princes footsteps Barry Bonds is changing his name to a symbol. The symbol is



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[Hardkore Kidd J]

I think if the Yanks make the playoffs even if they go out again in the ALDS that Torre def deserves at least another season back after this rally they have made because it looked like they were completely out of it.

You mean tonights game? I had a feeling they would win. Jose Contreras isn't that good. I believed even someone like Moose could win this game.

[mrslackalack]

I meant the season in general for the Yanks considering they were 14 and a half back at the end of May and 10 at the ASB.

[Hardkore Kidd J]

I meant the season in general for the Yanks considering they were 14 and a half back at the end of May and 10 at the ASB.

Yeah I think you're right. He should be given another year. We could be way further down on the Wild Card Standings. And way further down on the AL east standings if it weren't for him. Oh and A-Rod that guy also really helped a huge amount.

[mrslackalack]

I gotta say it again Hardcore you prolly have one of the best avatars out there.

[mrslackalack]

That is a great point Hardcore, A-Rod delivered about 4-5 comeback wins for the Yankees early in the season that could have dug them in a deeper hole.

[OssMan]

Milledge just saved the game in the 9th inning, time for him to high five the fans

[mrslackalack]

Milledge has some great potential.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Dave Roberts (SF Giant player) is asking Dodger fans to be respectful of Barry Bonds if and when he hits his milesone HR in LA.

LOL, ok, Dave.
Don't bad mouth Dave Roberts you piece of shit

[SammyG]

Yeah I like Dave Roberts as well, but his comments were ROFL. Wow Dodgers, you know what would be really cool? If you removed your fucking heads from your fucking asses and started winning again, FUCK.

[SammyG]

Bonds is either tying or breaking the record tommorrow. Hendrickson is pitching.

[SammyG]

oh, and after that it's Tomko. Definitely breaking the record in LA

[YOUR Hero]

Don't bad mouth Dave Roberts you piece of shit

Badmouth Dave? Never. Us old guys have to stick together. That doesn't mean I can't laugh at stupid ass comments.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Shit. The Mets' 13th inning loss to the Brewers was only their first walk-off loss of the season. Pretty crazy.

Bad symbolism though that the bullpen blew it on a day where Omar couldn't land Cordero.</font>

[Adder]

Next question

I said next question


Next question because that one was stupid.


...WE LOVE YOU BARRY!

[SammyG]

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7081372

Santana goes off

[Splaya]

Yeah Santanna is going to leave Minnesota after this year. I'll cream my pants if he comes to Detroit.

[SammyG]

LA would be a perfect fit for him.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Wonder how much it would take to get Johan, since he still has a year under contract.</font>

[Supreme Olajuwon]

If Zambrano gets $120 million this offseason Santana's contract is gonna be insane. I bet he could get $200 million if he was stubborn enough.

[Innovator]

Cashman, get on it.

[FakeLaser]

lollllllll

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[SammyG]

Hahaha, Prince Fielder was a fatass as a kid as well. Also, Bonds tying the record tonight. Bank on it.

[VonErichLives]

Yeah Santanna is going to leave Minnesota after this year. I'll cream my pants if he comes to Detroit.

yeah, and I'll tattoo a tigers logo on my forehead (ok, I won't actually, but I'd consider it).

My guess is...

His short list (place that can afford him)

New York Yankees
Boston Red Sox
California Angels
LA Dodgers
and if Cuban buys the Cubs.

That's the wild Card, if Cuban buys the cubs and he's not in a sport with no salary cap... I wouldn't be shocked to see him get A-rod this off-season and Santana next.

If you factor the Cubs out.

I'd see A-rod going to the Angels and Santana a bidding war between the Red Sox and Yanks with the Yanks winning because at that time I think they'll need him more then the Red Sox will.

Dodgers could be a good fit, but not sure if he'd want to go to the NL.

[Innovator]

A-Rod ain't going anywhere

[Nervous Ferret]

Have you caught Shelly Fever?

<------- :y:

[The Miz]

Isn't it Shelley asshole

[Nervous Ferret]

Perhaps :shifty:

[YOUR Hero]

yeah, and I'll tattoo a tigers logo on my forehead (ok, I won't actually, but I'd consider it).

My guess is...

His short list (place that can afford him)

New York Yankees
Boston Red Sox
California Angels
LA Dodgers
and if Cuban buys the Cubs.

That's the wild Card, if Cuban buys the cubs and he's not in a sport with no salary cap... I wouldn't be shocked to see him get A-rod this off-season and Santana next.

If you factor the Cubs out.

I'd see A-rod going to the Angels and Santana a bidding war between the Red Sox and Yanks with the Yanks winning because at that time I think they'll need him more then the Red Sox will.

Dodgers could be a good fit, but not sure if he'd want to go to the NL.

Hmmm.

Rangers
Mets
Phillies
Astros
Braves

all jump to mind as well. Santana would be the kind of player a lot of teams would invest in. In fact I wouldn't rule many teams out.

[FakeLaser]

The way we are hitting is ridiculous.

[YOUR Hero]

Not so sure what Santana is thinking, BTW. It's not like Castillio is what he once was in terms of an offensive player. His comments are out of line.

Jeeze

I hate to think what he's going to say when the Twins lose Torii Hunter.

[ClockShot]

No #500 for A-Rod tonight.

Damn, anyone watching that bridge collapse up in Minniapolis? Twins/Royals game got called off for another date.

[ClockShot]

Jorge Posada with 2 homers!

[OssMan]

Shelly Duncan is playing 1st base for my All Girls Name Team along with Sandy Alomar and Shannon Stewart

[Hardkore Kidd J]

yeah, and I'll tattoo a tigers logo on my forehead (ok, I won't actually, but I'd consider it).

My guess is...

His short list (place that can afford him)

New York Yankees
Boston Red Sox
California Angels
LA Dodgers
and if Cuban buys the Cubs.

That's the wild Card, if Cuban buys the cubs and he's not in a sport with no salary cap... I wouldn't be shocked to see him get A-rod this off-season and Santana next.

If you factor the Cubs out.

I'd see A-rod going to the Angels and Santana a bidding war between the Red Sox and Yanks with the Yanks winning because at that time I think they'll need him more then the Red Sox will.

Dodgers could be a good fit, but not sure if he'd want to go to the NL.

As much as I'd like Santana I don't know if we really need him per sey.We have got a lot guys in our minor leagues that could turn out great. Our 2009 5 man rotation might be something like this......

1. Hughes

2. Wang

3. Chamberlain

4. Kennedy

5. Horne

If you ask me that seems like a pretty sick five man rotation if Kennedy, Horne and Chamberlain are as good as people say they are. But adding Santana would be nice if we don't overpay for him. I say if he doesn't settle for a 4 or 5 year contract we should let him walk. But from the way I see it Johan really isn't a needed tool we have to have in our lineup he's a great pitcher and I'd love to have him pitch on the Yankees and He would help extreamly. But we shouldn't overspend for him. I'm more worried about Boston getting Santana then of Santana not coming to the Yankees. Maybe we could take Santana just so Boston can't have him.

It's rumored that's one of the reasons Boston got Dice-K and Gagne to keep them away from the Yankees.

And A-rod on the Angels? Might I just say .......:eek: . Other then the Red Sox getting A-Rod nothing scares me more then this. The Angels basically own the Yankees year in year out. The last thing we need is to be owned by them even more if A-rod joins. I hope A-rod stays right where he is.

[mrslackalack]

I see Johan as a Yankee

1. He will get a huge contract from them
2. Team Prestige
3. Legit shot at a ring every season
4. The current starting rotation is aged (Pettite, Clemens, Mussina) and Pavanos days as a Yankee are prolly over. Johan along with Hughes, Wang and prolly some other good pitchers would make a solid rotation for the Yanks

[Skippord]

Damn Torrealba and his choking

[McLegend]

Cubs suck

[mrslackalack]

Skip Bayless and Pat Forde talked about something interesting today. They mentioned how the milestones of this season has overshadowed some of the best division races ever.

[YOUR Hero]

500 HRs, tbh isn't such a milestone anymore.

[YOUR Hero]

tbh, imo

[mrslackalack]

Its interesting that when Glavine gets his 300th career win, that only Randy Johnson (if he dont retire and stays healthy) is the only other pitcher that can reach that milestone (hes 16 wins away from 300) Down the list nobody else does not even have 250 yet so unless the Big Unit does it there wont be one for a while after Glavine does it.

[mrslackalack]

I believe Forde said that he felt 500 HR wasnt a milestone no more either

[YOUR Hero]

Forde?

[Nervous Ferret]

http://mlb.mlb.com/images/players/mugshot/ph_217915.jpg Hi, YOUR Hero


:shifty:

[Hanso Amore]

Nothing against Biggio, but when he makes the 3000 hit club, it makes you think that while it is an accomplishment, it definitely does not equal a Hall of Fame Career, and its not such an amazing number. He was an average player for 20 years, no injuries, very durable, piling stats. Big Hurt hitting 500 isnt that bad, as he was the best offensive player of the 90s (He and Griffey). 2 time MVP and while is older and tailed off, I think his earlier dominance has been forgotten, so 500 just re-assures his place in history. \

Honestly, the next 300 game winner will be in 15 years, when yougn guys on top teams start retiring. 300 is an amazing number.

[Hardkore Kidd J]

I see Johan as a Yankee

1. He will get a huge contract from them
2. Team Prestige
3. Legit shot at a ring every season
4. The current starting rotation is aged (Pettite, Clemens, Mussina) and Pavanos days as a Yankee are prolly over. Johan along with Hughes, Wang and prolly some other good pitchers would make a solid rotation for the Yanks

I hope you're right. I have seen about 3 or 4 people this Year as Yankees but didn't become one. First, it was Zito I really thought he had a chance as a Yankee, then I thought Dice-K would be a Yankee, and then I thought Gagne would be a Yankee.

So right now I'm just gonna say I hope you're right. How old is Santana? He can't be any younger then 26 I don't think. By the time we sign him as a free agent he'll be 27 or 28. I'm just hoping we don't give him a Mosterous Zito type contract.

[YOUR Hero]

Lewwwwwwwww

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Santana will be 28 this offseason...29 next offseason when he's a FA

The one thing teams will have going for them in trying to get Zambrano this year and Santana next year is that Scott Boras isn't their agents.

tbh I'd LOVE the Mets to get either of them but they'd have to completely load the deals. I'm pretty sure they don't want to ever offer more than 4 years for a pitcher (5 years at absolute max)...so it'd have to be something like 4 years, $100 mil</font>

[VonErichLives]

Hmmm.

Rangers
Mets
Phillies
Astros
Braves

all jump to mind as well. Santana would be the kind of player a lot of teams would invest in. In fact I wouldn't rule many teams out.

I don't think all those teams would commit 200mil, also it would have to be a team he feels is ready to win it all... so I'd take the Rangers off the list and the Astros possible also.

Would he want to go to the NL? dunno...

Side note: It's being reported the YES network is for sale, if that happens you may see the Yanks out of the running... I wouldn't be shocked if they blow the team up and try and get young and cheap, don't forget that new stadium is going to cost them over 1.2 BILLION!

Which is why I think they're selling the Yes network, that and 2 of the 3 owners say they want to cash out, it's reported they'll get around 3billion for the network, which leaves 1bil to each owner and the yankees can move into their new stadium with it already almost completely paid for.

Also, word is steinbrenner is sick and his youngest son Hal is running things, he may take more of a business approach?

It will be interesting to see what happens.

[Hardkore Kidd J]

I don't think all those teams would commit 200mil, also it would have to be a team he feels is ready to win it all... so I'd take the Rangers off the list and the Astros possible also.

Would he want to go to the NL? dunno...

Side note: It's being reported the YES network is for sale, if that happens you may see the Yanks out of the running... I wouldn't be shocked if they blow the team up and try and get young and cheap, don't forget that new stadium is going to cost them over 1.2 BILLION!

Which is why I think they're selling the Yes network, that and 2 of the 3 owners say they want to cash out, it's reported they'll get around 3billion for the network, which leaves 1bil to each owner and the yankees can move into their new stadium with it already almost completely paid for.

Also, word is steinbrenner is sick and his youngest son Hal is running things, he may take more of a business approach?

It will be interesting to see what happens.

I think they might still be in the running. Over those 2 years the Yankees are losing a lot of guys. I believe Abreu, Damon, Pavano, Giambi, Mussina, Clemens, Pettitate And maybe a few more by that time all their contracts are up. That free's up some money. I really think the Yankees have a running at this. And even more of a running if let's say A-rod goes to the cubs or another team.

[YOUR Hero]

Rangers are free spending that's why I added them, plus the fact they traded away salaries this off season. I think Santana would pitch in either league no question asked. In fact I'd like to hear your explanation for even mentioning that.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Yeah if anything Santana would probably prefer to go to an NL team because any staff that adds him can instantly become a favorite</font>

[Innovator]

Everyone on here should be catching Shelley fever

[The Miz]

Santana in the NL wouldn't be fair. 0.00 ERA guaranteed

[The Miz]

Jose Guillen on Adam Jones being called up: "I am pissed off, this team has been good with what we have and I don't think that's what we need." ROFL, stfu you dunce, yeah we really need Jason "1 walk, no extra base hits" Ellison to keep the team comrodarie rather than one of the best prospects offensively and defensively in all of baseball

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Come to think, if Santana REALLY gets into a rift with management...maybe he'll get traded in a way similar to how the Yanks got Randy Johnson, with the Twins not getting anything particularly special in return, really just trying to get the unhappy Santana out.

I seriously bet Johan would love to come to the Mets...apparently he's REALLY good friends with Reyes, and if the Mets keep Castillo he's big friends with him too. Then if they were to sign Zambrano...

Johan Santana
Carlos Zambrano
Pedro Martinez
John Maine
Oliver Perez

I would shit myself.</font>

[The Miz]

Wha if they signed Vlad, ARod and KRod too!

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Sure, why not :shifty:

haha but seriously, 2 of Omar's 3 offseasons have been huge...I think he knows Mets fans were greatly disappointed by last year's and that he needs to make a splash.

I'm not really expecting both...that's just a perfect world kind of scenario. But if they can land one, it'd make up for last year's offseason shortcomings.</font>

[The Miz]

lol Clemens

[OssMan]

Team Rocket blasting off again

[SammyG]

lol 8 runs in the 2nd. Poor Rocket

[Innovator]

8 runs in the 2nd for the White Sox

Yankees answer with 6 so far

[Innovator]

Check that, 8 runs

[SammyG]

Holy shit, what were the odds of that happening? Sox score 8, Yanks follow with 8 themselves. 16 runs in 1 inning. wow.

[SammyG]

Betemit with a 3 run shot. What a piece of shit :(

[Adder]

Someone need to plunk ARod or Jeter or Matsui in the head and slow down that Yankee offence. Put a little fear in them while they're at the plate.

[Innovator]

God I hate Farnsworth

[Hardkore Kidd J]

God I hate Farnsworth

Me too! I think the only people who like Kyle Farnsworth are the team the Yankees are facing. I hate him so much. We better DFA him as quick as possible.

[VonErichLives]

Rangers are free spending that's why I added them, plus the fact they traded away salaries this off season. I think Santana would pitch in either league no question asked. In fact I'd like to hear your explanation for even mentioning that.

Some pitchers prefer to be in a league where they don't have to bat is a main reason.

The rangers are free spending, but they seem to be always spending then dumping..

I could see the Mets make a big run.

Pedro, Roger, Johhny Damon... I gotta admit, I didn't like the Red Sox not getting any one of those 3 when it happened, but really can't argue with any of those moves now.

[mrslackalack]

I have heard on T.V. that Damon's unhappy with the Yanks.

[mrslackalack]

I have heard Farnsworth is the Red Sox Nations favorite Yankees player lol.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

lol why did Clemens only throw 39 pitches? What the hell?

edit - nevermind, only saw the 3 ER thing which didn't look THAT bad but then 8 runs where actaully scored in that inning

[mrslackalack]

Its crazy how much the Yanks bats are on fire. The White Sox put up 8 runs in a inning then at the bottom of it the Yanks put up 8.

[Boomer]

Most ridiculous Braves game I've seen in years...and it isn't over.

[YOUR Hero]

14th inning. Chipper going to end it right here?

[Boomer]

Nope. The Braves don't know how to win extra inning games.

[Hardkore Kidd J]

I have heard on T.V. that Damon's unhappy with the Yanks.

What channel was that on? I don't think Damon's unhappy with the Yanks. According to Damon he said "He'd do anything possible to help out the Yankees" I think he may have been upset about the fact that he was taken out of the lineup not upset with the Yankees in general.

[mrslackalack]

Yup case in point was a couple years back against the Astros in the NLDS.

[mrslackalack]

I believe it was because he was taken out of the lineup Hardcore.

[Hardkore Kidd J]

I believe it was because he was taken out of the lineup Hardcore.

Me too! Damon is one of my favorite players but unfortunately he's gonna kinda have to get used to being benched and taken out of the lineup. With Giambi coming back and DHing there's really no place for him except for a back up center fielder/Left Fielder/ pinch hitter.

[YOUR Hero]

How many more years does Giambi have left on his contract?

[mrslackalack]

If I am correct maybe only 1 or 2?

[OssMan]

I heard on T.V. that Giambi has only 1 year left on his contract

[Hardkore Kidd J]

How many more years does Giambi have left on his contract?

He stays with us till 2008 I think. So I think Giambi leaves after the 2008 season the same time Damon, Pavano etc.etc. contracts are up.

[mrslackalack]

They asked Jeter does he think the Yanks can get the AL WC Berth and he said no..............................



That they would win the AL East.

[Hardkore Kidd J]

They asked Jeter does he think the Yanks can get the AL WC Berth and he said no..............................



That they would win the AL East.

Let's just hope Jeter was right. But I got to admit I'm kinda worried winning the AL East. Boston's bullpen was extremely strong even before Gagne. Now I think it might be a little too late to win the AL East. Hopefully I am proven wrong. But the way I see it does not winning the AL East that big a deal? As long as we make the playoffs which we should there's no problem.

[The Miz]

What do you think Jeter is gonna say, "Yeah the season's over tbh." Of course he's gonna say the Yankees will win the East, in his mind he knows along with the rest of them that their season is over

[mrslackalack]

In 05 the Orioles and Red Sox led the AL East for almost the entire season until the Yankees took it on like the next to last game while the Red Sox got the WC berth over the Indians.

[mrslackalack]

LOL I remember last year the Braves were out of it completly yet Smoltz was still trying to get management to make big trades to try to make a miracle run at it.

[Hardkore Kidd J]

What do you think Jeter is gonna say, "Yeah the season's over tbh." Of course he's gonna say the Yankees will win the East, in his mind he knows along with the rest of them that their season is over

It just might be over for them to get the East. But it's not over for them when it comes to the Wildcard. They are only 3 games back in the wildcard. That is completely manageable for us to do. And since Seattle is playing Boston for the next three days you don't really know we could be a half a game away from Cleavland by next week.

[mrslackalack]

That Seattle/Red Sox series is interesting for the Yanks for both the WC and Division race.

[Hardkore Kidd J]

That Seattle/Red Sox series is interesting for the Yanks for both the WC and Division race.

You're tellin me and then at some the Red Sox will be facing Cleaveland I think it might be next week or something. And as you know they are on top of the Wildcard. (For Now)

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Neifi Perez fails ANOTHER test and he's now been banned 80 games.</font>

[FakeLaser]

lol Neifi Perez

[Adder]

What do you think Jeter is gonna say, "Yeah the season's over tbh." Of course he's gonna say the Yankees will win the East, in his mind he knows along with the rest of them that their season is over

exactly

[FakeLaser]

I think we're taking the Wild Card.

[Adder]

Well the Tribe seem to be slumping and Seattle's doing so-so. With the way the Yankees are hitting the ball right now I wouldn't rule it out. Personally I hope they don't. I'd like to see Seattle in there.

[FakeLaser]

I wouldn't be shocked if we came back and won the division. I'm not saying it's likely, but I wouldn't be shocked. Delcarmen/Okajima/Gagne/Papelbon is pretty fucking serious though.

We're pounding the hell out of the ball and we're getting Phil Hughes back, plus Joba Chamberlain could turn out to be our bullpen savior, if he can do Farnsworth's job effectively. Along with Brian Bruney that gives us a solid late inning core of Bruney/Chamberlain/Rivera. We'll have other fresh arms like Chris Britton and Sean Henn out there too.

It might be too little too late, but if the bullpen shakeup is a success then we're as good as any other team out there.

[Adder]

too many if's, not enough time. REDSOX would really have to collapse.

[mrslackalack]

LOL at Perezs suspension

[mrslackalack]

I like the Yanks chances over Seattle but it would be dissapointing for either Tigers or Indians fans if the Yanks got the WC berth and they didnt when they had sucessful seasons.

[mrslackalack]

Right now at this point in the season this is my Playoffs

AL

AL East Champ: Red Sox
AL Central Champ: Tigers
AL West Champ: Angels
AL Wild Card: Yankees

NL

NL East Champ: Mets
NL Central Champ: Cubs
NL West Champ: Dodgers
NL Wild Card: Brewers