Marvel Universe Thread

[Kalyx triaD]

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[Rammsteinmad]

Who're waving at?

[Kalyx triaD]

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[Kalyx triaD]

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Viral marketing from an Iron Man 2 promotional site. But... isn't it a little late for this kind of thing for Iron Man 2 promotion? And that letter A is kinda stylish...

[Rammsteinmad]

Is that 'A' from Iron Man 2? Awesome!

[parkmania]

Looks a LOT like the Avengers' A.

[Rammsteinmad]

AccuTech Assemble!

[Kalyx triaD]

Logan Lerman just might be the new Spider-Man. Maybe. Who knows.

[parkmania]

Not exactly Marvel news but...

Taylor Kitsch, who played Gambit in X-Men Origins: Wolverine, has been tapped to portray Naval Commander Alex Hopper, a high-spirited officer who is a much better seaman than politician in Universal’s film based on the Hasbro game Battleship. Kitsch is currently shooting John Carter of Mars in London. He is playing Edgar Rice Burroughs’ eponymous hero in what will certainly be a major science fiction “tentpole” release in 2011.



Now Kitsch has also enlisted in Battleship, another major production with science fiction overtones. The film re-teams him with director Peter Berg, who produced the Friday Night Lights TV series that helped bring Kitsch to prominence. According to The Hollywood Reporter, the script for Battleship by Erich and Jon Hoeber has “drawn heat from some quarters” for introducing science fiction elements, namely an alien invasion, into what was, in its original format, strictly a game of naval combat.

[Lock Jaw]

A movie based on "Battleship"? Rrreally.

They have to have a scene with dramatic explosions, and with this bitter old dude screaming "You sunk my Battleship!"

[Reavant]

a film version of battleship with aliens... awesome

[Jon Kano]

I would rather see a film version of Monopoly to be honest, with Sir Ben Kingsley as a psychotic Monopoly guy.

[parkmania]

I would rather see a film version of Monopoly to be honest, with Sir Ben Kingsley as a psychotic Monopoly guy.

From icv2.com:

'Monopoly,' 'Magic' Movies on Tap?
Universal Pacts With Hasbro
Published: 02/20/2008 12:00am
Universal Pictures and Hasbro have announced a six-year strategic partnership to produce four motion pictures based on Hasbro properties such as Monopoly, Magic the Gathering, Candy Land, Clue, Battleship, and Stretch Armstrong. Under the agreement Universal will have exclusive movie rights to Hasbro properties with the notable exceptions of Transformers and G.I. Joe (both of which have already been licensed for the big screen by Paramount).


The first movie from this agreement is slated for release in 2010 or 2011, and Universal will release at least one movie a year thereafter. The enormous success of Paramount's live action Transformers was undoubtedly the driving force behind this agreement, which will allow Universal to mine Hasbro properties for box office gold.




Sony to Make 'Risk'
Movie Based on Boardgame
Published: 11/05/2009 01:13am
Sony Pictures Entertainment has acquired the film rights to the boardgame Risk from Hasbro, according to Variety.



Hasbro has been aggressively peddling its game properties to Hollywood; it’s already got Ouija (see “Lost Scribes on Board for Ouija”) and Battleship in development as the first in a six-picture deal with Universal (see “Monopoly, Magic Movies on Tap?”).



As the game-to-film path is a relatively new development (although there has been a Clue movie), it will be interesting to see how the films relate back to the core IP, and whether movies based on games will actually stimulate game play.




'Transformers' Scribes on 'View-Master' Movie
What's Next--'Easy Bake Chronicles: Fall of the Pound Cake'?
Published: 07/06/2009, Last Updated: 07/07/2009 12:52pm
Dreamworks is negotiating to obtain the screen rights to the View-Master toy line from Mattel. The studio is attempting to get the white-hot screenwriting team of Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman (Star Trek, Transformers, Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen) to work a little Transformers-like magic on the View-Master property.



According to The Hollywood Reporter Brad Caleb Kane, who has worked with Orci and Kurtzman on the Fringe TV series, is slated to write the script with Orci and Kurtzman producing. All sorts of classic games and toys such as Clue, Monopoly, Asteroids, Battleship, and Candyland are currently under development as feature films at various studios, so perhaps a View-Master movie is not too much of a stretch by Hollywood standards. At least the View-Master toys, which allowed viewers to flip through a series of photos (or drawings) on a circular disc, provided a 3-D effect, which links the property to the hottest gimmick in contemporary Hollywood (see the Ice Age discussion in “Dead Heat at the B.O.”).

[mitchables]

i hope the patrol boat saves the day after the aircraft carrier, destroyer, submarine and battleship are all destroyed

but i bet the battleship does it.

[mitchables]

clue was awesome. fucking love tim curry in that movie.

[Lock Jaw]

View-Master? Seriously?

Anyways, maybe we should move this talk into the Hasbro Movie News thread. :shifty:

[Lock Jaw]

Wiki says this about a Monopoly movie:

In November 2008, Ridley Scott was announced to direct Universal Pictures' film version of the game, based on a script written by Pamela Pettler. The film will be co-produced by Hasbro's Brian Goldner, as part of a deal with Hasbro to develop movies based on the company's line of toys.[45][46] The story is being developed by author Frank Beddor.[47]

This summer... Ridley Scott presents.... Russel Crowe... as... The Monopoly Guy. With Steve Buscemi as That Creepy Guy Behind The Bars On The Jail Spot.

[Rammsteinmad]

I can picture a monopoly-based comedy called 'Get Out of Jail Free'.

[Rammsteinmad]

Fuck this shit I love this Marvel Movie Thread, why have we corrupted it with talk of fucking board game movies?!?!

Someone needs to start a Hasbro Movie Thread.

[Jon Kano]

Yeah I really don't see how you can 'base a film on Monopoly' or a game for that matter unless it already has some kind of narrative.

I mean, there are a ton of films that could be said to 'be based on' a game.

[Kalyx triaD]

I would balk at the idea of board game movies but a certain pirate themed ride turned into a blockbuster movie franchise so....

[Kalyx triaD]

Spectacular Spider-Man had a spectacular run but as many great cartoons go... it's time to move on. A new Spidey 'toon, "Ultimate Spider-Man" will debut on Disney XD in 2011. Obviously it will be based on the Ultimate comics, as well as be in line with the upcoming reboot feature.

[Jeritron]

Joss Whedon to Direct The Avengers Source: Deadline New York, IESB April 13, 2010


Deadline New York says that Marvel Studios is moving ahead with Joss Whedon as director of The Avengers. First rumored to be on the short list by IESB, Whedon is now reportedly in final negotiations to helm the action adventure scheduled for a May 4, 2012 release.

The film would feature many of the lead actors involved in Marvel Studios adaptations right now, including Robert Downey Jr. ("Iron Man" films), Chris Evans (Captain America), Chris Hemsworth (Thor), Samuel L. Jackson (Nick Fury) and more.

Paramount Pictures will distribute the film.

[Lock Jaw]

Joss Whedon directing? Welp, someone is dying in a shocking "blink and you miss it" fashion at the end of the movie!

[Kalyx triaD]

Good for him. He rocked Astonishing X-Men.

[Shadow]

The Wasp is now the main focus of the movie.

[Kalyx triaD]

Wasp/Black Widow lezzy action.

[Nowhere Man]

Spectacular Spider-Man had a spectacular run but as many great cartoons go... it's time to move on. A new Spidey 'toon, "Ultimate Spider-Man" will debut on Disney XD in 2011. Obviously it will be based on the Ultimate comics, as well as be in line with the upcoming reboot feature.

I cannot tell you how much this pisses me off.

SSM was quite honestly right up there with Batman The Animated Series and The Tick among my all-time favorite superhero series. The production values were fantastic, every single one of the voice-actors was spot-on (well, except the guy who played Kraven and couldn't do a convincing Russian accent), all the characters were extremely well-written, and every one of the fights was awesome. The fact that the last episode ended on such a downer makes it sting even more, since now half of the major plot points will never get resolved.

And it's not like they ever even gave the show a fair chance. They never bothered to advertise for it or even acknowledge that it existed while they were shoveling out crap like the Super-Hero Squad and that Iron Man: Armored Adventures show. They left the show hanging out in limbo for months on end after the second season, then announce this new show without even telling the cast or creators of SSM that it had officially been canceled.

And there really isn't anything about the new show that sounds even remotely appealing. The Ultimate Spider-Man comic went to shit about fifty issues in and never pulled itself out, and there's not even a script yet for the new movie that this is supposed to be a tie-in to. Rumor has it that the format is going to be like a 'Batman: the Brave and the Bold' sorta thing where he just teams up with different heroes every week, so all of the fun side-plots and Spidey's awesome supporting cast are gonna be out the window in favor of whatever B-lister shows up that episode.

I know it's just a cartoon and I know the new one's probably meant to be aimed at little kids, but still. It really fucking burns me when an awesome show that you can tell everyone really cared about making gets killed off for a new show that's probably just going to be another extended toy commercial.

[Kalyx triaD]

A lot of cartoons just seem to end out of nowhere. JLU was heartbreaking and I think X-Men Evolution had another season in it's tank.

[Lock Jaw]

Never seen an episode of Spectacular Spider-Man, but I might have to check it out after that sterling review from Nowhere Man.

[Inadequacy]

So it's not gonna be the same team working on the new cartoon?

Lame

[The Destroyer]

On the cartoon front, Wolverine and the X-Men has been canned as well.

[Nowhere Man]

Also lame, although not quite as much of a blow as losing SSM. I liked a lot of what they did with that show, but I wasn't crazy about a lot of things either (particularly Wolverine being the leader when Cyclops is standing right there)

Come to think of it, I'm getting really sick of this whole "make the most popular guy also the leader of the team" thing that they've been doing with these series. Both the Super-Hero Squad show and the new Avengers cartoon both have Iron Man in charge of the team instead of Captain America, half of the scripts WB/DC have been putting around for a potential Justice League movie have Batman in charge instead of Superman, etc. I get that they want to put the 'cool' member of the team front and center, but it completely defeats the purpose of having the actual lead-figure characters still hanging around.

[Kalyx triaD]

Batman is not leadership material for a team of (conceptual) equals. Superman all the way. Bruce is a dick.

[Jeritron]

I think earlier in this thread I suggested that the studio would make Iron Man the leader of The Avengers, and everyone thought I was off my rocker.

I just see it happening because of Robert Downey Jr.'s star-power, and the strength of his character in the movies, and with the public at this time.
We'll see. I didn't know about that cartoon stuff, but it's the same line of thinking I was talking about. I'm sure the same logic is at work there as I have a feeling will be when the movie rolls around.

[Kalyx triaD]

I'm guessing they're be some friction between Iron Man and Cap, one guy's flash and glamor and the other's a soldier who lost his era if time. Their dynamic seen in the Civil War series could be adapted as well. I doubt they're subjugate Stark under Cap so easily being that he's huge right now, but also consider this could be used to show how strong Cap is as a leader if he could get a few super-egos to Assemble(!).

And yeah, Cap's gotta be the guy to say it.

[parkmania]

Hayley Atwell, who starred in less-than-edifying remakes of two of the best TV series of all times, The Prisoner and Brideshead Revisited, has joined the cast of The First Avenger: Captain America. Atwell will play Peggy Carter, the gun-toting American agent who helps Captain America (Chris Evans) battle the Nazis in this origin saga set during World War II that focuses on the early days of Steve Rogers who volunteers for an experimental super soldier program that turns him into Captain America.



According to Variety, Marvel had also been considering Keira Knightly for the role, but decided to go with Atwell instead. Joe Johnston is directing the Captain America film, which begins shooting in London this summer and is slated to debut on July 22nd, 2011

[Jeritron]

I wish they'd switch the title around. The First Avenger: Captain America sounds so hokey.
Captain America: The First Avenger.

Now that seems right.

[Lock Jaw]

Thought it was that way.

[Jeritron]

I certainly hope so. I've seen it presented the other way in everything I've seen so far

[Jeritron]

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0458339/

[Lock Jaw]

Well... that's kinda dumb then.

[Kalyx triaD]

The man, the master Stan Lee was at Wizard World and of course the always positive creator had much to say about the universe he helped start:

- Michael Chiklis as The Thing is his favorite casting so far.
- On Chris Evans being Cap after portraying Johnny Storm, Stan actually seemed confused by the Marvel Universe double-dip: "The problem is that some other movie companies have the rights to some of the characters but, after a few years, Marvel will get them all back... sooner or later they will get [a single movie universe], absolutely." lol Sounds like Stan likes the idea of actors punching in characters remaining such for the long haul.
- Pirates of the Caribbean is a Disney property he'd like to work on someday. We often imagine the Disney powerhouse putting their hands in Marvel's house, it's interesting that Marvel's artists may very well work on Disney properties as well.
- And speaking of that: "There's nothing to worry about. You're not going to see Iron Man with mouse eyes. The guys at Disney are almost as smart as I am!"
- On his trademark cameos for future films: "I've done my Thor cameo. I haven't done the Captain America one. I don't think they've started that yet. I had lunch with a young director, [Edgar Wright]. He's real good. He's gonna do the "Ant-Man" movie. So I expect to get a cameo there, of course."
- On any heroes who deserve a reboot: "Maybe the Hulk a little bit. Maybe. I'd like them to bring Daredevil back and try it again. I've always liked that character."

[Jeritron]

Daredevil should definitely get a reboot. Fantastic Four deserves another try. Maybe in 5 years or so

[Rammsteinmad]

I loved the Daredevil film. Definitely wanna see a new one, though I'd prefer a sequel to a remake, but whatever...

[Kalyx triaD]

The movies would cost in the range of 20 to 40 million dollars (very small when we're talking studio films) and would allow them to take risks with less obvious characters and with interesting talent," according to CHUD. "Properties like Dr. Strange, Ka-Zar, Luke Cage, Dazzler and Power Pack are among the many that are being tossed around right now. And the attitude seems to be that Marvel is open to bringing any of their characters to the screen at the right price point.

[Boondock Saint]

Charlie 27

[Destor]

i didnt see this posted but bot only is whedon directing the avangers film but he is also getting to re-tool the script which should be excellent. no secret that i`m a huge wheadon nerd so i`m THRILLED about this.

avengers should be shiney. :D

[Rammsteinmad]

The movies would cost in the range of 20 to 40 million dollars (very small when we're talking studio films) and would allow them to take risks with less obvious characters and with interesting talent," according to CHUD. "Properties like Dr. Strange, Ka-Zar, Luke Cage, Dazzler and Power Pack are among the many that are being tossed around right now. And the attitude seems to be that Marvel is open to bringing any of their characters to the screen at the right price point.

I'm surprised Dr. Strange hasn't gotten his own movie deal yet. And Power Pack seem more likely to one day get their own movie outside of Marvel Universe Continuity.

As for the others... Luke Cage should be in the Avengers film. Dazzler and Ka-Zar meh...

[Inadequacy]

Charlie 27

I like the way you think

[XL]

Just booked tickets to the 7.30pm showing of Iron Man 2 at the IMAX tomorrow. Woooooooooooooooooo!

[Kalyx triaD]

Iron Man 2's post credits scene will please some of you. No turning back now for Marvel's movie-verse.

[Reavant]

what is it?

[Kalyx triaD]

It's cool.

[Reavant]

rep me with the spoiler

[Rammsteinmad]

I'm a moron, went on youtube to see the post-credit scene. HOLY FUCKING SHIT! It was so sudden and kinda made me jump when I saw it lol. Wow can't wait. I pray I don't die within the next 4/5 years. Avengers is gonna be sweet! :drool:

[Reavant]

can u link the video... i looked for it and essentially got rick rolled time and time again

[Rammsteinmad]

IRON MAN 2 SPOILERS!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cVci4OTeKA

[Reavant]

its been taken down :'(

[Lock Jaw]

Good. The temptation is gone. Now if I can just avoid anybody being a douche and going around putting spoilers in thread titles on every board.

[Jon Kano]

What you mean the scene at the end where they shoot underground and find Captain America's shield and mask?

[XL]

Post-Credit Scene

The SHIELD agent that we saw in the first film is sent to New Mexico during the film. In the post-credit scene he pulls up in the desert and finds a crater. The last shot is of Thor's hammer in the centre of the crater.

[mitchables]

Spoiler

kano come on. i'm trying hard not to find reasons to berate you but really, are you dense or malicious? why post a spoiler like that when 2 people have seen the film?

[Jon Kano]

kano come on. i'm trying hard not to find reasons to berate you but really, are you dense or malicious? why post a spoiler like that when 2 people have seen the film?

It's not actually the ending, I made it up in a constructed post that would suggest I have revealed it and spoiled the surprise. The mystery remains.

[mitchables]

oh. then you are neither dense nor malicious, merely a scallywag trickster intent on fooling the public. carry on.

[Jeritron]

I'm so tempted to click it, because I'm curious and I have a feeling I will get spoiled on someone else's terms before next friday

[Rammsteinmad]

I'm going to see it on Monday. So fucking pumped! It's been getting some pretty awesome reviews and that shot at the end has me drooling. :drool:

[Reavant]

i spoiled the last scene for myself because i dont like sitting through the credits

[Kalyx triaD]

Yeah, I find these extra scenes don't really hurt the movie experience so I look them up online. I haven't read plot write-ups for Iron Man 2 as I plan on seeing it.

[Kalyx triaD]

http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/8/2010/04/500x_thor_01.jpg

Spot on.

[Jon Kano]

Not really, what is the deal with the shitty scaley sleeves?

[Kalyx triaD]

http://www.thinkhero.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/avengers-23-thor-rage.jpg

Going for this look, me thinks.

[Jon Kano]

Supposedly this is The Destroyer, one of the villains for the film...

http://splashpage.mtv.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/destroyer.jpg

[Kalyx triaD]

I would love to see how the 'skin/armor' folds. I'm seriously interested in what they did with Thor's sleeve and that guy's armor.

[Lock Jaw]

Are those sandbags on The Destroyer's feet?

[dronepool]

http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/8/2010/04/500x_thor_01.jpg

Spot on.

Nice.

[Rammsteinmad]

Is that pic of Thor actuall from the movie or is it someone's photoshop jobby?

If that's from the film... :drool:

Seriously... all this stuff with the Iron Man films, Hulk, Thor, Captain America, the Avengers etc... I'm been waiting 17 years for this shit! I am excited beyond words. :D:D:D:D:D

[Rammsteinmad]

Supposedly this is The Destroyer, one of the villains for the film...

http://splashpage.mtv.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/destroyer.jpg

That pic/background etc looks straight out of a 90's episode of VR Troopers or Power Rangers.

[Jon Kano]

The site I got it from was linked on the shit with the Thor pic. It is not officially recognised like the Thor one, so don't take it as gospel.

[Kalyx triaD]

Is that pic of Thor actuall from the movie or is it someone's photoshop jobby?

If that's from the film... :drool:

Seriously... all this stuff with the Iron Man films, Hulk, Thor, Captain America, the Avengers etc... I'm been waiting 17 years for this shit! I am excited beyond words. :D:D:D:D:D

That's Thor himself, official.

The site I got it from was linked on the shit with the Thor pic. It is not officially recognised like the Thor one, so don't take it as gospel.

The Destroyer there is legit, but it is a production pic - most of these superhero movies look mad silly behind the scenes without filters and such.

[Jon Kano]

Fair play.

I guess Thor looks good, and as small detail as it is, and it will make me sound gayers, but think he be better with no sleeves.

[Lock Jaw]

I think Thor is one of the most brilliant "creations" of Stan Lee.

Like he was sitting around one day and was like "*sigh* I don't want to create absolutely everything...... HEY! I know! I'll take a mythological Norse God and make him into a superhero! It already comes with a mass of supporting characters and villains! I'll just... I dunno... saddle Thor with a cripple human doctor alter ego in order to make him humble! The rest writes itself!"

[Shadow]

PUT ON THE GOD DAMN HELMATE!

[parkmania]

Production Weekly is reporting that Marvel Studios has already opened an office at Shepperton Studios in the U.K. in preparation for the commencement of principal photography on The First Avenger: Captain America, which is scheduled to begin on June 28th for a July 22nd, 2011 release.



Production Weekly is also reporting that Sony has opened an office for Men in Black 3 at New York’s Kaufman Astoria Studios and hopes to begin production sometime in August.

[Fignuts]

Thor is my favorite character ever. Movie costume looks good but holy shit that Destroyer armor is fucking perfect. Pretty much means the final battle is Thor vs Destroyer with Loki's spirit inside, I would think.

[Kalyx triaD]

I really hope they keep the Asgardian speech. It'll be great to see Thor talking that way to the other Avengers.

[Fignuts]

I would be pretty pissed if they didn't.

[The Destroyer]

Fair play.

I guess Thor looks good, and as small detail as it is, and it will make me sound gayers, but think he be better with no sleeves.
It's a pretty faithful reproduction of his current costume in the comics, but the "classic" one didn't have sleeves, so they could have gone either way with it.

The Destroyer looks good. And no, I'm not biased.:shifty:

[LuigiD]

The Thor and the Destroyer look great.
I don't know if anyone caught the brief return of the Destroyer recently with Thor.
The pic of Thor looks bad ass too..judging from the picture tho..he looks a bit skinny for Thor? I guess not skinny..just not massive arms that can crush the skulls of giants.

[Kalyx triaD]

Here we go with the 'actor isn't bulky' train. lol

[dronepool]

Superman is usually never that buff and he could go toe to toe with cosmic beings, new gods and The Hulk. Thor could be just as strong without having a "Triple H" body.

[Kalyx triaD]

While I support actors 'buffing up' before taking on superhero roles, I'm tired of the idea that if you're not emulating the uniform bulk of the comic depiction that character will not be that character. Things like this avoid the fact that many of these characters have had decades of personality building and they are far greater than how many muscles an artist draws on him.

And before someone gets all smart-ass, I fully recognize and understand certain character's physique are inherent with their 'character'. Hulk, Juggy, and Doomsday come to mind as characters you can't really get away with short-changing their traditional size. But Superman, Batman, Thor, Wolverine, even Spawn don't have to be especially large when their actual character lies in other factors.

I've given myself a headache explaining this to someone who couldn't stand Eddie Brock not looking like a football player in Spidey 3. It really isn't contingent on his concept at all.

[LuigiD]

Kaylx, I have been reading Thor comics for about..12-13 years at this point. At this point, I like to think I know the character fairly well. I don't think it breaks the character or the portrayal so far..I haven't seen the movie but from the picture..it still looks killer. Just an observation of size is all.
I mean..to me..part of the awesomeness of Thor is the fact that he is a god and he is big and powerful.
http://screencrave.frsucrave.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/avengers_iii_1a.jpg

I think that is an average portrayal of Thor. I mean..his arms are as thick as Iron Man..not counting the fact that Stark has armor on.

[dronepool]

Well Stark is 6 foot without his armor, Thor is 6'6 right?

[Destor]

good luck finding someone who can act that`s jacked like that

[Fignuts]

Yeah kalyx, Thor's size isn't quite as important as the hulk or juggernau, but I believe it's more imortant incomparison to some of the other characters people have bitched about. I mean he's an Asgardian thunder god. Being large and imposing is a pqrt of his character. But destor said is also true so I can deal if guy can act.

[Kalyx triaD]

I've made no presumptions to know any character better than any fan, but I stand by my statement even still.

[.44 Magdalene]

Poor, poor unimpressive Hank Pym.

[Funky Fly]

I really hope they keep the Asgardian speech. It'll be great to see Thor talking that way to the other Avengers.

Kenneth Branagh (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_Branagh) is directing. Count on Asgardian speech.

[Reavant]

well thor is also supposed to be basically a viking.... when have you seen a non-jacked viking? just saying.... i dont really care. buuuut i agree with what kalyx said about some of the characters not needing to be big but one thing that stuck out to me was eddie brock.... while eddie himself didnt need to be big i think venom DID need to be that way, but he also wasnt that important of a character in the movie so whatever

[dronepool]

http://www.movieviral.com/2010/05/02/iron-man-2-already-earns-100-million-worldwide-before-even-opening-in-america/

Iron Man 2 already made 100 million world wide before opening in America.

[LuigiD]

Just spoke to a friend of mine on Skype. He is from Brazil and just saw it. he said it was great..specially the last 10 minutes. I was tempted to ask why but I resisted.

[Rammsteinmad]

Gonna see Iron Man 2 tonight! Can't wait!!!

Also, I hate the long wait, but if we're getting Thor in May next year, and then Captain America in July, that'll be fucking sweet.

[Kalyx triaD]

The on-again, off-again rumor that Kick-Ass director Matthew Vaughn will direct this X-Men prequel is on again. Reportedly, he's in final discussions with Fox, and Bryan Singer will produce. Also an encouraging detail: the screenplay has gotten a late polish from the writing duo of Ashley Edward Miller and Zack Stentz, who wrote for Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles and Fringe, and also rewrote the Thor screenplay. So now it actually may live up to the way-too-fun Jeff Parker comics.

[Rammsteinmad]

I'm excited and all for a new X-Men film, but I wish it wasn't a prequel. I read rumours somewhere that Fantastic Four are possibly getting a reboot. There is an entry on IMDB that says 2013 but nothing else.

Fuck every comic film is pretty much get a reboot these days. They'll probably reboot Iron Man next year. :mad:

[Kalyx triaD]

Not with Avengers rolling around.

[LuigiD]

I'm excited and all for a new X-Men film, but I wish it wasn't a prequel. I read rumours somewhere that Fantastic Four are possibly getting a reboot. There is an entry on IMDB that says 2013 but nothing else.

Fuck every comic film is pretty much get a reboot these days. They'll probably reboot Iron Man next year. :mad:
Yeah I agree..I am not really into the whole reboot crap..specially with the X-Men films. I was not a fan of the Last Stand but I don't think the whole franchise has gone to waste yet. As far as the Fantastic Four goes..they should reboot that for sure..I HATED what they did with Doom. The movie just didn't feel right.

[Fignuts]

Yeah, I'm pissed that they went the reboot route for x-men, because you gotta figure apocalypse would have been the next villain.

[Jeritron]

I'm pissed that they went and made a movie as destructive to the franchise as X3. They should have waited for Bryan Singer, or at least made a movie that didn't destroy everything in it's path for future installments

[Jeritron]

Really, I'd love to see X-Men revisited and be as good as it was with X2, but I'm not sure how that can happen.
Killing Professor X, Cyclops and Jean Grey is almost laughable for how destructive it is to the "X-Men" franchise. That's the founders of the X-Men right there, all dead, except for Storm.
I understand Prof X "isn't dead" and they can be brought back, but how convaluted is that shit? Come on.

The franchise should still be going, but they made moves that makes it dead as a doornail. They should leave it the fuck alone for 10 years and then take another look at things.

"The First Class" sounds like a horrid concept, and Wolverine was so bad that any sequels to that don't interest me in any way.

[dronepool]

The X-Men movies were mediocre, the best one was the second one and I'll call it good not great. The first one just felt like a TV movie for some reason. It wasn't horrible, but not great by a long sho The third was alright, it had some nice special effects but the whole killing off a 3rd of the characters idea just sucked. And even I think that the idea of a reboot is terrible, but with the shit they stepped in, they probably have no logical choice. If this comes out, hopefully it's in 3 or 4 years from now. And Marvel has the rights.

[Jeritron]

I've always felt like X2 was and is one of the best comic book movies made.

[dronepool]

While I think it's good, it is one of the better Marvel films along with Iron Man (which is great) and Spider-Man 2 (which also is good- but not as great as it should/could be) [some parts are too dragged out yet some of it has really awesome scenes like the train scene]

[Jeritron]

I'm in agreement with you about the marvel films higherarchy then. Those 3 are by far the best.

If I had to rank superhero movies, I'd probably say:

1. The Dark Knight
2. Spiderman 2
3. Watchmen
4. Batman Begins
5. Iron Man
6. X2
7. Batman
8. Superman
9. Spiderman
10. not sure

A movie like Sin City would be pretty high on my list, but I didn't include it because it's not really a "superhero" movie, just based on a graphic novel. If I go that route I'd have to include A History of Violence and Road To Perdition, among others.

[Jeritron]

Would be perfectly comfortable switching the 5 and 6 spot though

[Jeritron]

I don't agree that Spiderman 2 could have been greater in any way. I think it's far superior to the original, and until The Dark Knight came along was easily the greatest superhero movie of alltime (in my opinon of course).

It was really well loved by film critics and movie buffs. I'm not sure about the hardcore comic fans though. I love comic books, don't get me wrong, but that's not really what I'm looking for in things. I'm just looking for the best movie possible. I could care less about the content as long as it's somewhat faithful. Just the basic concept and staples really. Apart from that, I'm judging it the same I would judge any other movie

[LuigiD]

Really, I'd love to see X-Men revisited and be as good as it was with X2, but I'm not sure how that can happen.
Killing Professor X, Cyclops and Jean Grey is almost laughable for how destructive it is to the "X-Men" franchise. That's the founders of the X-Men right there, all dead, except for Storm.
I understand Prof X "isn't dead" and they can be brought back, but how convaluted is that shit? Come on.

The franchise should still be going, but they made moves that makes it dead as a doornail. They should leave it the fuck alone for 10 years and then take another look at things.

"The First Class" sounds like a horrid concept, and Wolverine was so bad that any sequels to that don't interest me in any way.

The First Class crap would just end up being "Twilight meets X-Men." X-Men watered down for teenage fan girls to fantasize about. The Last Stand was just so horrible..you are right on with killing so many important characters. Bringing them back would take up so much time in a movie. 20 minutes? even that is questionable. I am sure they will figure something out..or not.

[dronepool]

I like Sin City and I liked Hellboy a lot as well. I guess not counting non-superhero books makes sense because stuff like Sin City and From Hell are great "movies" if you know what I mean. They feel a bit more cinematic than a lot of Marvel movies, in which DC superhero movies tend to capture a bit more.

This is not definite but I'd have something like-

Dark Knight
Batman Returns
Iron Man
Batman Begins
Hellboy
Watchmen
Batman
Superman 1 and 2
Spider-Man 2
X2

Not counting Sin City.

[Fignuts]

Fucking stupid how much hate the spider-man franchise gets. Yeah there may have been better choices for casting, but come on, how often is any character perfectly cast? And people act like they are terrible when they really aren't.

Sam Raimi captured the feel and atmosphere of the book perfectly. I do not anticipate the reboot.

Also, the clocktower/train fight is my favorite fight scene in a movie ever.

[Lock Jaw]

The first two Spider-Man movies are great. Two of my favorite "fun" movies.

[.44 Magdalene]

What's weird on Spider-man's casting is how many TOTALLY AWESOME choices they made for all the mediocre ones. I mean, I'll be the first to bitch about Kirsten Dunst as Mary Jane, or Tobey McGuire not being confident enough as Spider-man--but on the other side of the coin, HOLYSHIT that Aunt May. That J. Jonah Jameson. That Sandman, that Doc Ock. Some of the casting was meh, some of the casting was fucking PERFECT.

I don't know about X-Men, though. I mean, I know most of the kids come to see Wolverine anyway, but it felt like all three fucking movies were just Wolverine and His Amazing Friends. One movie focusing on Logan? Fine, I understand. He's a lovable character. One and a half movies? Sure, he's marketable. I think I had a little too much Wolverine by the end of the three, now FOUR different movies in which he was the official star.

I'm afraid I'm going to be like this by the end of the Avengers, too. I'm skeptical that the guy they have playing Cap is going to be able... you know, "keep up" with the onstage antics of one Robert Downey Jr., and what's going to happen is Iron Man and His Avengers. I hope I'm wrong, though.

[.44 Magdalene]

Not that I didn't like X-Men, of course. Second one was my favorite, but still. Fuck. God damn. Wolverine = Important, handsome, leader, best fighter, loved by everyone but Cyclops who was a dick and then died. We get it.

[Fignuts]

The people in charge of Avengers have way too much respect for the characters to let cap take a back seat, I think. Frankly, I think a lot of the movie will be about IM and cap butting heads, given their contrasting personalities and lifestyles. Cap has held the title of leader of the avengers in the past, but it's really always been the two of them running the team together, and I'm betting they won't change that for the film.

[Fignuts]

Also, they should just keep the same actor for Jameson, in the spider-man reboot. Had to be the best casting of a comic character, in the history of film.

[Jeritron]

The people giving them the money to make such a big movie have way too much respect for money to let Robert Downey Jr. take a back seat, I think.
I will be shocked if Chris Evans is leading the pack as Captain America. At the very best he will sharing that role with Downey's Iron Man, but more than likely it's going to be Iron Man and everyone else.
I can't prove this until the movie comes out, obviously, but to me it seems like common sense. Money and the general public always come first, not the comics.

[Jeritron]

I suppose there's also the bait and switch they can pull on the average movie goer, where they make Captain America the leader in the film, but cut the trailers and tailor the marketing campaign to make it seem like Iron Man is.
This way they can "have their cake and eat it too", so to speak.

I just fully expect the new popularity of Iron Man and Downey Jr. to be the primary attraction of the movie. Especially if Iron Man 2 is as successful and well-recieved as everyone expects.

[.44 Magdalene]

Jeritron pretty much hit the nail on the head, as far as my concerns go.

[Jeritron]

I hope Edgar Wright and Simon Pegg make Ant Man before Avengers, so they can work in a minor role or cameo for him.
Obviously he's not going to be a major player but he could be a cool sidekick or one-scene gag.

I have a feeling that movie will be good. Edgar Wright is great, and Simon Pegg is perfect for that type of role. The smaller the movie the better. It should be made in the same spirit and scale as Shaun of the Dead and Hot Fuzz.

I don't think Hawkeye or Vision should get their own movies, but they could work them into any potential Avengers sequel easily.

I think getting a movie like Avengers off the ground is a pretty ambitious thing, and unexplored territory. They should stick with Cap, Iron Man, Thor and Hulk (and maybe Ant Man) the first time around. It will be hard enough to make all of those elements come together, nevermind introducing new ones at the same time.
Lesser Avengers seems like a sequel thing. If Vision, Hawkeye or anyone else is shoved in there it's going to feel bloated as hell

[Fignuts]

Even after the success of Iron Man, I think the general public has much more respect and recognition of the Captain America character. I think it would be weird even to someone who doesn't read comics, to see captain america in a subordinate role.

A lot of the emphasis in this arguement is being placed on the actors. But it doesn't matter how charming Robert Downey Jr. is. Nobody knew who Iron Man was before the movie. Now, to most people, he is that superhero the Downey Jr. played. But Captain America is a cultural icon, whose death in the comics made headlines around the world. Joe Quesada was even on the Colbert Report to speak about it.

Furthermore, it's not as if Captain America is being introduced for this movie. He has his own big budget summer blockbuster on the way, and it will be fresher in people's minds than Iron Man, when Avengers comes out.

[Fignuts]

Also, I never said Downey Jr. will take a backseat. Just that he would share the lead with cap.

[Jeritron]

I hope they can make Captain America the focus of both the film and the movie goers, but my concerns stand.
They're not even really concerns. As long as the movie is good, I am okay with it. I guess it's more of a prediction really.
Also, while I'm a fan of the Chris Evans casting, I feel as though they would have gone out and got someone like Leonardo Dicaprio if they were looking for it to be a bigger hit than Iron Man. I know this has nothing to do with quality, but it sort of indicates their approach to the concept.
I don't care that much about star power. Unfortunately, I think a lot of the general public does. That's what I'm trying to get at with placing emphasis on that.

Captain America could also be a massive hit and fire on all cylinders, and capture the public's attention enough to make Chris Evans into an overnight superstar. Maybe this is what they are hoping for. That's what happened with Michael Keaton and Christian Bale in the Batman role.
Seems like a big bet though, since Avengers will probably be in production before Captain America hits theaters.

[Jeritron]

Also, I never said Downey Jr. will take a backseat. Just that he would share the lead with cap.

Fair enough. I think this is the best case scenario at this point.

[Jeritron]

I was kind of hoping for Daniel Craig to be cast as Thor (not because of his fame, but just his look/personality), but hopefully this guy they got is good. I honestly have no real opinion on the matter, since I've only seen him act in one scene from Star Trek. The verdict is out.

What are your thoughts on it Figgy? And what would you have thought of Craig? I know you're a huge Thor mark.

[.44 Magdalene]

More grievous things have been done for movie marketability than turning Captain America into a second fiddle.

And stage presence, or "charm", has alot to do with alot. If Chris Evans can't cement his presence on-screen while Downey Jr is eating the scenery alive, it would be just as bad as writing it out that way. While I'm basically waiting to be surprised--Heath Ledger's Joker showed me that I can definitely be wrong about casting choices--I'm still pretty skeptical that our Cap is going to have the staying power to stand beside our Ironman and our Hulk and still be memorable when it's all said and done.

[Jeritron]

Is Edward Norton still on board, or are they just going to have him in CGI Hulk form the whole time and dance around it?
I haven't heard anything about that in a while, but last I had heard Norton was doubtful.

[.44 Magdalene]

But like I said, I'm basically going into this expecting the guys in charge to know something I don't. I still remember taking one look at "Heath Ledger will be the Joker" and going WHAT? WTF? BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN S;AJKSFJ;J THE JOKER?

And then I saw the trailer and promptly shut the fuck up. I'm hoping--hoping, hoping, hoping--that Chris Evans has a spark in him I haven't seen yet, and that the Cap movie is going to blow my fucking brains out.

[.44 Magdalene]

Is Edward Norton still on board, or are they just going to have him in CGI Hulk form the whole time and dance around it?
I haven't heard anything about that in a while, but last I had heard Norton was doubtful.

I hadn't really heard anything about Norton backing out, so I assumed he was still on board. That'd be mad gay if he dropped out, though.

[Jeritron]

The way to approach Captain America is to really hit on what makes the character work. It's a slice of Americana, so it should be a pretty fun, light-hearted type of movie. It should capture that WW2 adventure, serial type of feeling.
The best example of that I can really think of is Raiders of the Lost Ark. It should be a lot like that. Joe Johnston also directed The Rocketeer, which I think is also a movie that goes places a Captain America movie should go.
Lastly, the original Superman. That movie really drives home that character, and the all-american feeling that comes with it. It reminded people of why it was so popular in the first place, and it had that really hokey, warming Norman Rockwell thing going on.

So my view is that Captain America should be some brilliant mix of Raiders, Rocketeer, and Superman. I don't think it should be too trendy or modern, since it's set in WWII. If they approach it the same way they approach other comic book movies it will come off awfully. I hate when movies set in past time periods try to be modern.

They should also try to shy away from tons of CGI. I want to see real stunts, and real fight scenes/chases in a WWII Captain America movie.

The big question is how a movie like that will be recived. I honestly think social climate plays a big part in how much of a hit a movie is.
Spiderman and The Dark Knight couldn't be more different, but one came along right after 9/11 and lifted spirits, and the other came along in a more cynical time and capitalized off of being dark and relevant.
Society could eat a pro-America movie up, or spit it out.

[.44 Magdalene]

Also, I totally forgot that Hugo Weaving is going to be the Red Skull. Me likey breadsticks.

[Fignuts]

Chris Evans seems like he can play a myriad of different roles, given his parts in FF, Push, and The Losers. Thought he pretty much nailed Johnny Storm. I think he's a good actor, but he just hasn't gotten to break out until the captain america movie.

[Jeritron]

Christopher Reeves was a total no name when he played Superman. If the character of Captain America can do that for Chris Evans, and vice versa, everyone is a winner.

[dronepool]

I heard Norton wasn't happy or something back in 2008.

And yeah, Cap has a ton of potential to be really good. An American super solider fighting Nazis and Red Skull.... it should be a hit. It'll probably be the first War/Superhero/Sci-Fi film.

[Fignuts]

I was kind of hoping for Daniel Craig to be cast as Thor (not because of his fame, but just his look/personality), but hopefully this guy they got is good. I honestly have no real opinion on the matter, since I've only seen him act in one scene from Star Trek. The verdict is out.

What are your thoughts on it Figgy? And what would you have thought of Craig? I know you're a huge Thor mark.

Yeah, never seen this guy before, so I can't really pass judgement. Can't really say much for Craig either. All I remember seeing him in was the bond movies, and it's hard for me to picture James Bond swinging a hammer around, screaming "I SAY THEE NAY!" at the top of his lungs.

Thor isn't really a tough cast tbh. You just need to find someone with a decent size frame, that can act really intensely in the fight scenes. He's not a particularly deep character. Very old school, black and white outlook on right and wrong type of superhero. I mean I enjoy the character, but it's more the book as a whole, and the whole mythology of his world that I love, when I say he's my favorite character.

[Rammsteinmad]

At least they didn't cast Triple H as the rumours were suggesting...

[Kalyx triaD]

I'm fairly excited about Wolverine 2.

[Reavant]

I dont know why you guys are so worried about cap and ironman sharring the leadership/spotlight because hasnt that been the trend in the last decade maybe half a decade of the comics?

[Fignuts]

That's what I'm saying. People are saying that cap will be a subordinate to Iron Man though, not sharing leadership.

That would feel extremely awkward to me.

[LuigiD]

I doubt they will do that. Even though both share responsibility as team leaders..I have always seen Cap as having the ultimate word. It seems like way too many heroes look up to him and see him as more experienced since he was in "the shit." (or World War II)

[Jeritron]

Remember on the Spiderman Animated Series, where Spidey recruited various heroes and made them his bitch?
That was funny. Captain America, Iron Man, Reed Richards and Storm all getting him coffee

[LuigiD]

I remember that.
It has been years since I saw those episodes loosely based on the Secret Wars. If I am not mistaken, didn't he pick Cap for his leadership skills?

[Jeritron]

I think so. He picked Storm, of all X-Men. And he picked Black Cat. That was a wasted pick. I guess he threw both of those picks away for the sake of pussy.

It was pretty lopsided too. He drafted the collective unit of the Fantastic Four, and a handful of other heroes.
The villain side got Red Skull and Dr. Doom, but aside from that it was only Doc Ock and The Lizard (who defected).
What the fuck? I think they could have used a few more villains. Where is Magneto? It was like 10 on 3.

[LuigiD]

I think so. He picked Storm, of all X-Men. And he picked Black Cat. That was a wasted pick. I guess he threw both of those picks away for the sake of pussy.

It was pretty lopsided too. He drafted the collective unit of the Fantastic Four, and a handful of other heroes.
The villain side got Red Skull and Dr. Doom, but aside from that it was only Doc Ock and The Lizard (who defected).
What the fuck? I think they could have used a few more villains. Where is Magneto? It was like 10 on 3.
I don't remember where I read it or heard it..but I think in the original plan they did intend to have some more high profile villains. However, some trouble with the voice actors not being able to make it or some crap. I remember reading that Storm was not originally planned to be there. That Spidey series was the shit tho. Mostly because of the 5834848 cameos it had.

[Jeritron]

It had virtually every cameo possible. The only major characters that didn't cameo were Hulk and Thor.

In Hulk's case, he was supposed to but they ran into an issue with rights. I think it had to do with The Hulk animated series being produced by UPN.

The only major Spidey villain to not appear was Sandman. This was because Sandman and Electro were placed off-limits by Marvel, because they wanted to keep them fresh for James Cameron's Spiderman which was in development at the time. Those were the two villains he had in his script.
Once that fell through, they worked Electro into a later season. They never got around to Sandman though.

[Skippord]

Wasn't Electro some guy that dated Mary Jane at some point or something?

maybe that was someone else but I remember it being someone like Electro on that show

[Rammsteinmad]

You're talking about Hydro Man.

[Rammsteinmad]

In one of the episodes it was revealed Mary Jane was a clone created especially for Hydro Man, which is why she kinda developed 'water powers' and then evaporated. Sucks when that happens.

[Skippord]

Oh ok, that show got weird near the end

[LuigiD]

I don't remember the whole story with the 90's Marvel Shows..but I think it was something among the lines of Fox being pissed over the fact that Marvel had control over their 2 most powerful shows or something like that. That is why towards the end of X-Men and Spider-Man, there was a huge decrease of animation value for the X-Men and stories for Spider-Man. Some funding was removed.

[Kalyx triaD]

How did you guys end up on Fox's radar for First Class?

Zack Stentz: We had one of those great general meetings you have where the executive says "I have to find something for you guys". And you expect to never hear from him again
Ashley Edward Miller: We were standing around in the commissary one day. They saw us and they were like. "You there, shiftless writers. We have a task."
ZS: There are just a small number of writers in Hollywood who know comic books backwards and forwards and are not daunted by skipping all of the usual feature writing "screwing around."
AEM: They knew we worked on Thor, knew we knew the universe, they liked our writing, and thought we could bring something to it that was compatible with Bryan Singer's vision.

What is Bryan's vision?

ZS: Pretty good, I think — did he have laser surgery at some point?
AEM: You see it in X-Men and X2: Character first.

Like the USA Network.

AEM: Exactly. This is basically a big episode of Burn Notice with mutants. Bruce Campbell should play every role. He would make an amazing X-jet. Who doesn't want to see the X-Men fly to the rescue atop Bruce Campbell at mach 3?

"You know mutants: a bunch of bitchy little girls." Had either of you read Jeff Parker's First Class comic before landing the assignment? Did you lean on it at all, or was the idea of "X-Men: Freshman Year" enough to run with?

AEM: Nope. all we had to hear was Bryan's take.
ZS: That sold us immediately. It felt so of a piece with the emotionalism and drama of the first two films.

What were your first meetings with Bryan Singer like?

AEM: Bryan is a great collaborator. He's very smart, he knows what he wants and he's great with the back-and-forth of designing cool scenes and moments. And when you get into the superheroics, he wants to understand how and why things work.
ZS: In TV terms, it was like meeting with a great showrunner — he absolutely knows what he wants, but is interested in your opinion and enjoys means-testing all of the ideas that come out.

How difficult was it to settle on the story to tell? There are so many firsts the X-Men had...how do you choose just one?

AEM: Step One: You can't think of it that way. You have to let go of all of that.
ZS: Yeah, that way lies checking boxes on a list instead of just finding a great story.
AEM: So you ask the same questions you'd ask on any other script: Who are these characters? What do they want? What's in their way?

True. but with so much to choose from, are there conscious decisions of the things you know you want in there?

AEM: Sure, but it has to feel organic. If it doesn't emerge naturally, you should never ever force it. (And yes, that's what she said.)

Did you feel any pressure/desire/necessity to "reintroduce" us to the X-Men?

ZS: In some sense you should be reintroducing your characters in every film. (I like this guy)
AEM: The thing is, we've been here before. We did it on Terminator for two seasons. We did it on Thor. You learn how to approach the material as something you can live in and not just nod at.
ZS: Well, look at Star Trek (2009) — that's a film that did a great job of acknowledging that its characters are part of the culture, yet treating them as fresh and new to the audience.
AEM: I would also argue that if you're telling a story where your characters can no longer surprise the audience, you're telling the wrong story. These characters surprised us at every turn, sometimes in really wonderful and emotional ways. Those moments are what make movies great.

How accelerated was the process? It all seems like it's moving pretty fast from here on the sidelines...

AEM: It's a very accelerated process. I don't think that's a secret.
ZS: They've eliminated the usual screwing around and waiting two to four weeks when you turn in a draft. It's amazing how much fat there is in the feature development process. And how quickly you can make it happen if you cut it out. TV proves that.

What's it been like working with Matthew Vaughn?

AEM: Honestly, we haven't spoken to him yet.

Are you guys done with your First Class responsibilities?

AEM: Hahahahahahahahahaha.
ZS: Oh, no....
AEM: Of course, there's a complete script. But these things are never done until they're shot and edited. All we know is we throw ink where we need to throw ink and we do it until they say stop.

Where do you go from here? What's next?

AEM: We're still in the middle of working on Damn Nation. We turned our first draft into Dark Horse and Paramount, and everyone seems to love it. We were very pleased with how it came out.

It feels a bit like you're Marvel's go-to writers. Not a bad position to be in.

AEM: That's an interesting way to look at it. I think there are three Marvel comic book adaptations coming out next summer. And we wrote two of them. That blows my little fanboy mind.

How much are you guys still plugged in to what's happening on Thor?

ZS: We talk fairly regularly with the guys.
AEM: I went to the set just last week.

Did you get to...hold it?

AEM: Dude. Mjolnir is awesome. I got to hold it. I was so stoked. I brutally beat the script supervisor with it.
___________________

Credit io9. First Class drops June 3, 2011.

[Kalyx triaD]

Iron Man 2 goes national this weekend (already selling out theaters), and the game also dropped this week. The game has War Machine, but no co-op for guys to buddy-up as Tony and Rhody in the game (utterly fantastic missed opportunity, imo).

[Lock Jaw]

Nobody takes video games based off of movies seriously anyways.

[Kalyx triaD]

That's no excuse to miss such an obvious feature.

[Fignuts]

Yeah really, thats pretty dumb. Any reports on if the game is any good.

[Kalyx triaD]

I haven't read any reviews yet but it looked fucking stupid from where I was sitting - conceptually and visually (martial arts styles to choose from, what the fuck?).

[dronepool]

Toby Jones cast as Arnim Zola.
http://comicbookmovie.com/fansites/Poniverse/news/?a=17895

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n174/smahmed/11156L.jpg

[.44 Magdalene]

holy shit

[.44 Magdalene]

I'm not sure I actually believe it yet.

[Fignuts]

FUCKING AWESOME

[Jeritron]

Just got back from Iron Man 2. It was a blast. I think I enjoyed it as much, if not more, than the first.
It was pretty much just as good of a movie, but with more "cool shit."

[Jeritron]

I stayed after the credits as well

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Yeah, twas fucking awesome. Also, some guy was dressed up as Iron man via cardboard and get this... the fucking plastic that your meat sits on when you buy it. Yes, the black stuff. He painted it. Fucking HILARIOUS.

[SuperSlim]

I saw it tonight... and it was indeed very good.

And we had a guy ... well two guys. One as Iron Man and one as war machine. Both in cardboard. Pretty awesome.

[McLegend]

I just watched the Captain America movie from 1990 which I haven't seen in 10 years. Fuckin excellent

A side note I never knew that Captain America was JD Salinger's son. I am an idiot.

[Rammsteinmad]

I have the DVD of that film, use to love it when I was young, now it's awful lol.

I love how half way through the movie Cap's running through the forest being chased, with no explanation as to how he got there or why he's being chased lol.

[dronepool]

My Iron Man 2 thoughts:

It was good. A few people say that it dragged, while that isn't *really*
true, I think they just expected/hoped for way more action. This had like 4 or 5
big action scenes, the rest was for story and plot development. It was
an entertaining and well done and Robert Downy Jr. was spot on and as funny as ever.

Can't wait to buy it on bluray.

[Jeritron]

Superhero action gets boring. In fact most action gets boring. I love action movies, but I don't need a movie that's wall to wall with action because it becomes meaningless and the audience gets desensitized.
Transformers 2 (which I hate) is nothing but action. The first Iron Man didn't have much action either. I don't really care for too much of it. I'd rather there be 2 or 3 big action sequences and the rest of the story and dialogue be entertaining.
This is really what I've always liked, whether it be Star Wars or The Dark Knight, or Terminator 2, etc.

[dronepool]

Superhero action gets boring. In fact most action gets boring. I love action movies, but I don't need a movie that's wall to wall with action because it becomes meaningless and the audience gets desensitized.
Transformers 2 (which I hate) is nothing but action. The first Iron Man didn't have much action either. I don't really care for too much of it. I'd rather there be 2 or 3 big action sequences and the rest of the story and dialogue be entertaining.
This is really what I've always liked, whether it be Star Wars or The Dark Knight, or Terminator 2, etc.


Even though I enjoyed Transformers 2 (I'm not a fan of them, I never cared for the cartoon) I just enjoyed the action while smok... playing with a lighter.

I agree 100% percent. Movies like Transformers 2/Last Action Hero/Commando are merely watch once and put away. Nothing else to look for in terms of plot.

[Jon Kano]

Well its still all subjective and relative.

Last Action Hero especially is one of my all time fave movies and I watch it at least once a month, as with Commando. But I won't bother with Transformers II again, but probably watch the first again if I was in the mood.

[dronepool]

I enjoyed Transformers 2 more than the first for some reason. And I meant I don't have the urge to see them but if they come on TV and I'm bored, I might watch them.

[Fox]

Just got back from Iron Man 2. I thought it was a very well done film, the cast was dead on and both Robert Downey Jr. and Mickey Rourke give incredible performances. I thought that the film could've used at least one more action sequence in the first half, and that the action scenes toward the end could have been a bit more dynamic (the Drones, for example, could have been much more difficult to defeat than they were).

I also noticed that the scene from the trailers with Stark and Pepper in the plane and her throwing his helmet out the back wasn't in the film. There are also stills showing Stark with Scarlett Johanssen's character wearing the Iron Man hand repulsor, which was also absent from the movie. I have no gripe with these minor issues; just an interesting side note.

[Shaggy]

I also noticed that the scene from the trailers with Stark and Pepper in the plane and her throwing his helmet out the back wasn't in the film. There are also stills showing Stark with Scarlett Johanssen's character wearing the Iron Man hand repulsor, which was also absent from the movie. I have no gripe with these minor issues; just an interesting side note.

Yea I read an interview a week before the movie released with the Directer in which he was talking about deleted scenes for the dvd and he mentioned both of those as well as the reason he removied the Stark/Pepper place scene was because it threw off the scene and actually took away from the moment that they were aiming for.

[Reavant]

is the director of iron man on for directing avengers?

[.44 Magdalene]

From what I've heard, they're getting a different guy. Couldn't give you names or anything off hand, but I remember the Iron Man director being skeptical that somebody can bring it all together without hurting the strong almost-realistic technological basis of Iron Man's setting.

[Jon Kano]

Stan Lee is directing The Avengers

[Reavant]

haha you mean staring in it? lol

[Jon Kano]

He's directing his starring cameo role, so yes and no.

[The Destroyer]

is the director of iron man on for directing avengers?
Nah, Joss Whedon's doing Avengers.

[Reavant]

booo

[Fignuts]

I don't know man. Havn't seen any of his tv shows, but guy knows how to write superheroes. Astonishing X-men was one of the best runs on a book ever.

[Destor]

big joss weadon mark. he`s great with groups of charectors. he will own.

[Shadow]

The Wasp is gonna be awesome in it.

[Funky Fly]

Yeah, the dialog may be a little weird at points if Whedon's doing it, but it will be good weird, not bad weird.

[parkmania]

Now that Matthew Vaughn has been signed to direct X-Men: First Class, the next film for the franchise (see “Matthew Vaughn to Helm X-Men: First Class”), he’s apparently bringing along Jane Goldman, who worked with him on Kick-Ass and Stardust, to work on the script. That’s according to a Tweet from Goldman’s husband, Jonathan Ross, via Syfy.
http://www.icv2.com/images/17470JaneGoldman-md.JPG


The film will be released June 3, 2011.

[Fignuts]

Nice boobs.

[Kalyx triaD]

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[Blitz]

So Iron Man 2 was ok, not as good as the first. Woulda liked more Whiplash. But oh my godddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd I forgot how sexy Scarlett Johansson is. OMGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG.

[Reavant]

the end scene was pretty cool. and i agree with blitz 100%

[Kalyx triaD]

http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/05/500x_ironman_1.jpg

$4,000. One year. Minigun can shoot paintballs via glove button. Maybe the greatest comic based costume ever.

[.44 Magdalene]

And the faceplate opens and closes via a button.

[Jeritron]

I bet it's incredibly difficult to wear for more than 5 minutes

[Kalyx triaD]

Something tells me he'd bear it for an hour or so.

[thedamndest]

Must be incredibly hard to poop if you're Iron Man. Tony must pay careful attention to what he eats.

[Skippord]

Upon seeing Iron Man 2 I may have to start stalking Scarlett Johansson

[Kalyx triaD]

I've wanted to stalk her since Eight Legged Freaks.

[Reavant]

Upon seeing Iron Man 2 I may have to start stalking Scarlett Johansson

agreed

I've wanted to stalk her since Eight Legged Freaks.

thats a little weird

[Reavant]

:heart:

[Jeritron]

She looks much better as a brunette

[Skippord]

Actually I think I'll stalk both Scarlett Johannson and Ryan Reynolds

[mitchables]

saw iron man 2 last night, can't really add anything that hasn't already been said. decent film, not quite the standard of the first but still really enjoyable. thought the cameo of cap's shield was pretty cool, and the end scene, as everyone's mentioned, was sweet. definitely got me pumped for the next few films.

i liked don cheadle's rhodey.

[Lock Jaw]

Best part of Iron Man 2:

Where Agent Coulson is like "You can't leave until you solve this problem... OR I WILL TAZE YOU!!!" and so Tony Stark in the very next scene just up and drives away. Then when Coulson reappears he's just like "I heard you escaped..."

[Sovereigntywillpr]

saw iron man 2 last night, can't really add anything that hasn't already been said. decent film, not quite the standard of the first but still really enjoyable. thought the cameo of cap's shield was pretty cool, and the end scene, as everyone's mentioned, was sweet. definitely got me pumped for the next few films.

i liked don cheadle's rhodey.

I haven't seen it and i expected you to say _____himself, the _______ is in the first one too dude.

edited spoilers.

[Optimus Bone 69]

I lol'd at the part Ironman says thanks Don to Warmachine, i mean how did they not notice that error

[Fignuts]

Thoughts on siege. Posted it in the comic group, but I'll post it here too. Also, there is a comic group. Join it.


Didn't care for it.

First off, I'll start with the 4 issue format. Everything felt rushed. It should have gone at least 6 issues, imo. I mean this is the culmination of everything they've been building to since secret war ended, and actually since sentry came back in new avengers. And they rush through it in 4 issues. Thor vs Sentry was a fight that we've been waiting years to see. There should have been a whole issue dedicated just to that. But what did we get? 3 or 4 panels of them trading blows. Horrible.

And don't tell me, "Oh well the tie in books flesh everything out." Bullshit. Tie-ins should be optional reading, that enhances the story. The main book still needs to be able to stand on it's own. This doesn't.

Moving on, I didn't really like steve rogers donning the stripes here. If anything, it was the perfect oppurtunity to fully establish bucky as the new cap.

The last couple things I really didn't like involve the sentry. Firstly, I am a fan of the character. I have always enjoyed enigmatic characters, and they did a phenomenal job, at spreading out over time, all the new discoveries about his origins. What I didn't like was that he was just some junkie that randomly drank an enhanced super soldier forum. Not the part about him being a junkie, as that was interesting. It was the serum part. Like BDC said, you have to suspend your disbelief a lot when reading comics, but there is a limit. At some point, you're going to say "Well this is just stupid." And the sentry becoming powerful enough to probably singlehandedly defeat galactus by having a drink(one that wasn't even magical, at that) is tupid.

So at the end of issue 3 when sentry transformed, and Norman implied that they don't know what sentry really is, I got excited. Was waiting for some big reveal in issue 4, but it didn't come. Dissapointing.

My biggest gripe however, is with how quick the other heroes were to kill him. Whole conversation was pretty much:

Sentry: Kill me
Heroes: No
Sentry: Seriously
Heroes: lol ok

There was literally no conflict in the decision whatsoever. Not even after the fact. It's just that it would be nice to have a little consistency, considering that for 60 years, heroes refused to kill even the most dangerous and evil villains. Seems especially stupid after reading Fallen Son, where everyone was saying how much they admired and respected him, and made him out to be the greatest hero ever.

Still a fun read, it's just that I was expecting so much more from it.

[parkmania]

Nicktoons will air a second season of Iron Man: Armored Adventures in 2011. The new 26-episode season is already “well into production,” according to Eric S. Rollman, Marvel’s President of Animation. The new season will include the characters Nick Fury, Whiplash, Dr. Doom, and magneto, and will feature the resolution of the Makluan Ring saga.



Iron Man: Armored Adventures premiered on Nicktoons early last year (see “New Wolverine and Iron Man Toons”).

[Nowhere Man]

Oh, what the fuck. Spectacular Spider-Man gets canceled without even telling the writers and cast that they're out of a job, and that shitty show gets renewed?

[LuigiD]

I wish Marvel would just do animated TV series that are not aimed at children? I have always thought if they got their shit together and did shows on characters such as Moon Knight, Ghost Rider, Blade, etc like the Spawn animated series..the adult crowd would love it.

[Nowhere Man]

Problems with that are that A) apart from the Spawn animated series, 'adult' cartoons really don't fare well at all, and I doubt Marvel would spend the extra dough to get it aired on HBO or whatever instead of Disney, and B) none of those characters are bankable commodities, especially not compared to Iron Man or Spider-Man, and especially after the lackluster movies made about them, Ghost Rider in particular. And nobody outside of comic geeks knows who the fuck Moon Knight is.

[LuigiD]

Yeah, the Disney purchase pretty much killed the 000.00003% chance of it ever happening.

[Kalyx triaD]

Stupid fucking Iron Teen gets second season? What the fuck?

[Fignuts]

Spider-man: The Gauntlet is the best spider-man story I've read since Mcfarlane's short run. Pretty much brings back everything that made the character great.

[Kalyx triaD]

Dominic Cooper to Play Howard Stark in Captain America.

[Jeritron]

Pretty cool that he's going to be in that movie. How old will he be in WW2? The actor is about 31, but I would imagine he would have to be much younger. That would put them in 1942, and if he's around 25 years old that would make him in his late 50s at the time of Stark Expo.

Pretty pumped for The Avengers. I hope they can pull it off

[Jeritron]

http://www.themovieblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/super-no-avengers.jpg

[Kalyx triaD]

I'd still watch it.

[Vastardikai]

http://www.themovieblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/super-no-avengers.jpg

Wait, where's Helena Bonham Carter (sp?)

[Rammsteinmad]

http://www.themovieblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/super-no-avengers.jpg

:rofl:

[Inadequacy]

Music by Danny Elfman

[Jeritron]

James McAvoy Cast as Professor Xavier Source: Heat Vision Blog May 27, 2010


James McAvoy, the Scottish star of Atonement, has been cast as Professor Charles Xavier in the upcoming X-Men: First Class, according to The Heat Vision Blog.

McAvoy previously started in the comic book adaptation Wanted. Xavier was previously played by Patrick Stewart in three X-Men films as well as in the Wolverine spinoff, digitally de-aged.

X-Men: First Class will be directed by Kick-Ass Matthew Vaughn and produced by former X-Men director Bryan Singer, among others for release on June 2, 2011.


lol good lord. How does James McAvoy replace Patrick Stewart in anything?

[mitchables]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f4/James_McAvoy.jpg/250px-James_McAvoy.jpg

what

[LuigiD]

haha I never had good feelings about X-Men: First Class..but things seem like they will be worst than I thought. :roll:

[Kalyx triaD]

O boi

[Jeritron]

It doesn't seem good. I'd give it the benefit of the doubt until I see it, if I had any faith left in the franchise. I don't though

[Rammsteinmad]

So if go by X-Men movie continuity, between First Class and X-Men the members have all aged maybe 5/10 years, except Pro. X who'll have aged 30.

[Kalyx triaD]

Almost guarantee First Class will shit on continuity. Not saying it'll be good or bad, but they take liberties like a mother fucker.

Wonder who'll play young Magneto. And based on what they pulled in X3, there's no reason to think they couldn't have Patrick and Ian back. Ugh.

[LuigiD]

I agree with Kalyx that they will probably shit on the continuity.
It does make me question if they will have two different timelines going then. Will Wolverine Origins keep going its own way or will it "merge" with the First Class?

[Kalyx triaD]

Josh Holloway may have a role in Avengers, as who nobody knows. Holloway's been a popular fan casting for Gambit, but it looks like he'll enter the Marvel universe as another player. Hawkeye?

[Kalyx triaD]

Some guy seen Cap's costume in First Avenger:

...While I can't pass along anything here, I can describe to you what I saw.

Captain America will have two different costumes in the film, according to Johnston. He told the LA Times that he'll have a costume designed by the Army for his initial USO appearances that's slightly more flashy and a nod to the original design. As he gets called into active duty though, Steve Rogers (who hated the original suit design), creates a new costume that's more battle-ready. This second costume is the one I saw and will the primary costume for the film.

The first thing I noticed is that the trademark wings that flank the side of Cap's hood are gone. In fact the "hood" is gone entirely. In its place is a more traditional M1 Army helmet though this helmet does come over the eyes to give Cap a traditional "domino mask" look. Still present is the white "A" in the middle of the hat (nothing fancy, this is the traditional font), though like the rest of the costume, the blue of the helmet is much more muted than the blue in the comic costume. A thick black strap comes down over the ears and connects under the chin.

Cap is wearing a blue neck piece but from what I saw, it's hard to tell if this is connected to something under the helmet or whether it's something like a turtleneck (I'm gonna guess the latter).

On his chest still lies the white star though it's not as prominent as the comic version. The costume is still split horizontally through the middle with blue on top and red and white stripes on the bottom. But instead of stripes, it's actually just a white base with two red utility straps acting as stripes. (Exactly what I would have done) These straps affix to a metal loop at the midpoint of the chest and a black strap extends up to the shoulders from that point.

His shoulders have pads over them that extend down to about mid-bicep and are attached via a brown strap under the arm. The sleeves (for lack of a better word) are white with a fairly standard brown glove.

The fabric of the costume doesn't look like the scaled material of SPIDER-MAN but more of a leather fabric, like something you'd see on one of the X-MEN. Cap wears an old school utility belt, the likes of which we haven't seen much in modern superhero movies. Utility belts were a staple of comic superheroes but haven't made the transition but here Cap sports a rather thick belt made up of brown pockets with a silver buckle. (It actually looks something like the belt on this Captain America toy.)

As you might expect, there's no codpiece to be found and Cap is wearing blue pants tucked into brown utility boots. The pants aren't skin tight but they aren't baggy either. And for those who are curious, the pants actually have a fly so Cap can take a leak if he needs to.

The suit actually has a practical WWII military look to it with some of the obvious Captain America flourishes that we would expect. It's hard to really pass judgment on a costume until you see it properly lit, in motion and doing what it's meant to do. But based on what I saw, I'm pretty impressed with how they were able to adapt the costume for the film.

As for the shield, it actually hews very closely to the classic design of red/white/red rings with the white star in a blue circle at the middle.

[BigDaddyCool]

Exclusive Captain America pictures from the up coming movie.

http://photos.liveauctioneers.com/houses/profiles-in-history/16511/0737_2_lg.jpg

[Kalyx triaD]

Awesome.

[Lock Jaw]

http://www.evilspacerobot.com/1001101/sketchblog/20070401/captainamerica.gif

[The Destroyer]

Sounds like they've taken influence from the depictions of Cap's costume from the WW2 sequences of The Ultimates, which can only be a good thing.

Of course his shield shouldn't be round to start with if the film's set in WW2, but surely only petty fanboys will complain about that. Right? :shifty:

[LuigiD]

That is what it sounds like to me too.
No complaints from me..I love that costume.
http://comicsmedia.ign.com/comics/image/article/740/740818/ultimate-alliance-costume-parade-20061020035203183-000.jpg

[Kalyx triaD]

Still wish they slipped us a silhouette of him during the D-Day scene in Origins Wolverine.

[BigDaddyCool]

Still wish they slipped us a silhouette of him during the D-Day scene in Origins Wolverine.

That would have been gay.

[Jeritron]

Josh Holloway may have a role in Avengers, as who nobody knows. Holloway's been a popular fan casting for Gambit, but it looks like he'll enter the Marvel universe as another player. Hawkeye?

Sawyer in Avengers? This keeps getting better

[Blitz]

Read recently (feel like it may even have been posted much earlier in this thread) that Jeremy Renner might be already signed to play Hawkeye.

[Lock Jaw]

Sawyer to play Ant-Man.








(Miles to play The Wasp)

[Danny Electric]

How any of you can already write off the new X Men film when it has only just been mentioned is laughable.
You all got insider knowledge that no one else knows about?
Didn't you see the director with the good track record?

[Rammsteinmad]

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[Rammsteinmad]

This looks cool, but I won't get too excited. Since the 90's X-Men and Spider-Man cartoons, no Marvel cartoon series seems to last more than a couple of years (dunno how long X-Men Evolution lasted, but whatever).