Marvel Universe Thread

[LuigiD]

god..that trailer is fucking amazing.
Loving the look of Asgard..loving everything actually. So excited for this.

[alvarado52]

http://g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/706659/Robert-Rodriguez-In-Talks-To-Direct-Deadpool.html

It appears that signs could be pointing to the one and only Robert Rodriguez to assume the director's chair and bring the solo debut of Marvel's infamous "Merc with a Mouth" to the big screen. According to The LA Times, the Predators and Machete director is currently in talks with Fox to helm Deadpool

[Jon Kano]

Cool, I am a long time fan of Rodriguez.

One thing I don't get about this Deadpool film...

so they are making it and releasing it as an origins film? - I read its going to completly ignore 'Wolverine'.

So does that mean the scene at the end where he lives is for Wolverine II?

Either way, they really should think about this shit before.

[Jeritron]

Rodriguez is awesome. I think they should just completely ignore Wolverine and let Rodriguez do what he wants

[D Mac]

Thor Trailer (http://io9.com/5599251/check-out-the-full-thor-trailer-and-get-hammered)

Looks hot.

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[Kalyx triaD]

Can't find a new one.

[Rammsteinmad]

No new posts in 2 weeks? What's going on? This thread got bumped to the second page, which is unacceptable! This is probably my favourite thread, gotta keep it alive.

Where's Kalyx at? Come on there most be some Marvel news you're not sharing with us?

[Lock Jaw]

I think even more people were cast for the X:Men - First Class movie. Let me find it...

Alright:
According to The Hollywood Reporter, actress Rose Byrne is in talks to play Moira MacTaggert in the film. They describe the character as "a scientist and an authority on genetic mutation. She'll be the love interest of James McAvoy, who plays mutant telepath Charles Xavier." Meanwhile, Comingsoon.net has learned Jason Flemyng will also appear in the film. "That role will be Azazel, who was described as a "teleporter" during Flemyng's presentation for Jonathan English's Ironclad, but who is in fact none other than Nightcrawler's father!" they write.

[Kalyx triaD]

Extremely sorry. There has been numerous updates to First Class that I've been lax on and even a Joss Whedon interview concerning Avengers (nothing much said though).

I am at your service despite the shit over at the VG Forums.

[Funky Fly]

Post it and fuck the haters.

[Rammsteinmad]

Fuck it and post the haters.

[Kalyx triaD]

Both seems to work.

[BigDaddyCool]

Posters gonna post.

[Kalyx triaD]

January Jones is now confirmed to have stepped into the X-Men: First Class role of Emma Frost, reports Variety.

http://s3.hubimg.com/u/794814_f520.jpg
Me thinks this will work in one regard.

Morgan Lily (2012) has joined the rapidly-growing cast of Matthew Vaughn's X-Men: First Class as young Mystique (Jennifer Lawrence plays the older version in the film).

http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTg4NTg0NjE2Nl5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwNzc3MTQ3MQ@@._V1._SX250_SY375_.jpghttp://www2.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/65th+Venice+Film+Festival+Burning+Plain+Photocall+1WlR70SdNxfl.jpg
Blue legacy.

Hugh Jackman has opted not to appear in the upcoming Avon Man so that he can start getting in shape in late fall for Wolverine 2, reports Deadline.

Good priorities.

[BigDaddyCool]

Never heard of her. But she is going to be White Queen?

[Kalyx triaD]

This clown saying anything worth hearing?

[BigDaddyCool]

I thought clown was an image creation.

[Rammsteinmad]

What the fuck kinda name is 'January Jones'?

[Kalyx triaD]

Always wanted to ring in the new year.

[BigDaddyCool]

Always wanted to ring in the new year.

Go jerk off to myspacegirl.

[Miotch]

What the fuck kinda name is 'January Jones'?
One of a fucking hot piece.

[Jeritron]

They caught that bitch making the walk of shame

[Jeritron]

http://static.thehollywoodgossip.com/images/gallery/january-jones-walk-of-shame_552x414.jpg

[Miotch]

No wonder Don Draper left her ass.

[Optimus Bone 69]

that looks like the joker

[Kalyx triaD]

Singer spoke with AICN about the film, seeking to clarify what exactly is being done with everyone's favorite band of merry mutants. First off, the film is set in the 1960s. JFK is the president, the Civil Rights movement is in full swing, and "there is a spirit of a hopeful future that was prevalent in that time." Charles Xavier and the man who will become Magneto -- Erik Lehnsherr -- meet and dream of a future where man and mutant can live together in peace. And we all know how that works out…

Some bullet points follow on the ton of info that Singer has revealed:

--The two leads will be in their late twenties.
--Xavier will not be in his wheelchair, but we will learn how he gets there.
--He'll also still have hair.
--Xavier and Magneto will create the X-Men together.
--This is not based on the comic book called First Class but rather is "a new beginning" for the series.
--Director Matthew Vaughn is "technologically inspired" by the James Bond tech of the '60s.
--The costumes will be more "comic bookish" than in previous films. (This will be interesting)
--Neither Cyclops nor Marvel Girl will show up, but Cyke's brother Havoc will. (Awww)
--Kevin Bacon will play Sebastian Shaw and, yes, the Hellfire Club will figure into the mix. (Holy shit)
--Filming begins with Xavier at Oxford University.
--The movie will have a much more international feel than previous installments. (The shoot will take place in England and the U.S.) Other locations will include Russia (though they won't actually film there).
--There are other characters in the film who have not been revealed yet.

Filming begins this month.

[Jeritron]

So what is the deal here? They're going to reboot X-Men from the start, but also shoot and release more Wolverine and Deadpool movies at the same time?

[LoDownM]

Wait, hasn't Xavier always been bald?

[Swiss Ultimate]

http://l.yimg.com/eb/ymv/us/img/hv/photo/movie_pix/universal_pictures/cinderella_man/craig_bierko/cinderella1.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0081572/

This guy would make a good Joker after Heath Ledger.

[Jeritron]

Joker is DC

[Fignuts]

And no he wouldn't.

[Jeritron]

That too

[Kalyx triaD]

So what is the deal here? They're going to reboot X-Men from the start, but also shoot and release more Wolverine and Deadpool movies at the same time?

...Yes.

[Fignuts]

That's really kind of stupid.

[Jeritron]

The Deadpool movie seems alright, since it can sort of be it's own thing and function outside of the X-Men tent, at least for casual audiences.
But Wolverine is inseperable from X-Men. People are going to be wondering what the fuck connection there is between these new X-Men movies, the old ones, and the Wolverine movies.
Especially if they introduce Wolverine in the new films.

[Jeritron]

I mean honestly, how long are they going to go in a new X-Men franchise without using Wolverine.

[Funky Fly]

Seems like a bunch of dijointed, unconncted projects. Like they're not trying to make a franchise at all.

[Fignuts]

Thank god for Avengers. Finally saw the Thor trailer, and it was fucking amazing. Destroyer is perfect perfect PERFECT. Can really tell the people working on it are genuine fans.

Only nitpicky thing for me so far is that as good an actor as Anthony Hopkins is, I don't really know if he will work as Odin. In the comics, he has a presence that makes Dr. Doom seem like a fuzzy kitten. Hopkins doesn't seem intimidating enough, at least from a visual standpoint.

[Kalyx triaD]

The last time people seen Doom on screen he was played by a sex-crazed surgeon.

[Fignuts]

I was talking about comics doom.

[Kalyx triaD]

I know. I was talking about movie Doom. The bulk of audience will probably dig Hannibal as Odin in some strange way.

I like him because for some reason he makes me think of Marlon Brando's Jor-El.

[Fignuts]

I'm sure people will like him. As I've said though, thor is my favorite book, so I can't help nit picking more than most.

[Fignuts]

Jor-El was a scientist though. Not the king of battle craving, warrior viking gods.

[Nowhere Man]

So wait, they're doing a movie about the first X-Men, without Cyclops or Jean Grey, the two most important people on the original X-Men lineup? That's fucking stupid.

[Kalyx triaD]

Jor-El was a scientist though. Not the king of battle craving, warrior viking gods.

It must be the voice.

So wait, they're doing a movie about the first X-Men, without Cyclops or Jean Grey, the two most important people on the original X-Men lineup? That's fucking stupid.

I'm gonna assume the movie precedes the first team, or rather there's some reveal that there was an 'experimental' first team that disbanded or met some terrible end that will 'define Xavier and Lenshur's relationship'.

[Fignuts]

It must be the voice.



I'm gonna assume the movie precedes the first team, or rather there's some reveal that there was an 'experimental' first team that disbanded or met some terrible end that will 'define Xavier and Lenshur's relationship'.

Now you're talking like it is canon with the other films.

[Kalyx triaD]

Oops.

[Fignuts]

That would be very silly, considering Nightcrawler is part of the cast.

[Kalyx triaD]

You sure?

[Jeritron]

When the fuck am I going to see this Thor trailer? I didn't see it in time when it "leaked", and it was taken down from youtube and everywhere else by the time I got to it.

I just looked and I still can't find it. It's not on youtube or anywhere yet. What the fuck?

[Funky Fly]

When the fuck am I going to see this Thor trailer? I didn't see it in time when it "leaked", and it was taken down from youtube and everywhere else by the time I got to it.

I just looked and I still can't find it. It's not on youtube or anywhere yet. What the fuck?

Yeah, word. Fucking fuck.

[Fignuts]

FOR ASGARD....and funky and jeritron


http://morewillie.com/2010/07/thor-trailer-leaked/

[Kalyx triaD]

It was cool.

[Inadequacy]

Agent Coulson!

[LuigiD]

X-Men First Class seems like such an unorganized cluster fuck of ideas.
I haven't liked the idea of that film since day 1. Casting choices aside, it sounds awful. Like it was pointed out, how do you make an X-Men movie now without Wolverine, Cyclops or Jean? the 3 characters that seem to be the ones people identify the most as being part of the X-men.
The structure of the film even reminds me of this gem..
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[Lock Jaw]

Totally forgot about that movie.

[Kalyx triaD]

The comparison's pretty far reaching, eh?

[Jeritron]

Don't speak ill about any Marvel movie while Jean Kalyx is in the house.

[Kalyx triaD]

It will be a new story that has many things from different arcs of the comics in it. There is no one Avengers story that you can just do the way that you can do the origin of Spider-Man. You really have to cull from the original and The Ultimates, which is one of The Avengers titles.

[Fignuts]

Good. Ultimates would work better I think.

[Funky Fly]

FOR ASGARD....and funky and jeritron


http://morewillie.com/2010/07/thor-trailer-leaked/

JIZZED IN MY PANTS

Gonna be awesome. Seems like Branagh dialed down the Olde English for this though. Guess he thinks general audiences will be too dumb to get it. :-\

[Funky Fly]

X-Men First Class seems like such an unorganized cluster fuck of ideas.
I haven't liked the idea of that film since day 1. Casting choices aside, it sounds awful. Like it was pointed out, how do you make an X-Men movie now without Wolverine, Cyclops or Jean? the 3 characters that seem to be the ones people identify the most as being part of the X-men.
The structure of the film even reminds me of this gem..
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Wolverine isn't one of the original 5, so I could see him not being in. In fact, it wouldn't make sense if he was there. Leaving out Jean and Scott is just weirdtarded. That Gen X movie is bad in a good way. Everyone should see it on a lazy Sunday.

[Rammsteinmad]

I have the Generation X film on DVD. It's certainly not brilliant, but for a cheap and tacky TV movie it's not that terrible.

[LuigiD]

Wolverine isn't one of the original 5, so I could see him not being in. In fact, it wouldn't make sense if he was there. Leaving out Jean and Scott is just weirdtarded. That Gen X movie is bad in a good way. Everyone should see it on a lazy Sunday.
Yeah, I know about the Wolverine part. Just from a marketing stand point from a company that is thirsty for making every penny possible..regardless of how much a story makes sense..it surprises me.
Man..I remember when Gen X came out..I was at my peak of X-Men Fandom. Specially with Gen X. I had a ton of toys and comics. I liked the movie back when it came out. The characters were nothing like I pictured them but whatever..

[BigDaddyCool]

X-Men First Class seems like such an unorganized cluster fuck of ideas.
I haven't liked the idea of that film since day 1. Casting choices aside, it sounds awful. Like it was pointed out, how do you make an X-Men movie now without Wolverine, Cyclops or Jean? the 3 characters that seem to be the ones people identify the most as being part of the X-men.
The structure of the film even reminds me of this gem..
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I remember that movie being rushed and sucking.

[Fignuts]

JIZZED IN MY PANTS

Gonna be awesome. Seems like Branagh dialed down the Olde English for this though. Guess he thinks general audiences will be too dumb to get it. :-\

Probably for the better, but Thor better at least say "I SAY THEE NAY"

[Jeritron]

I bet they'll have a scene where they take Thor shopping in modern times, and lots of comedy like that.

[Kalyx triaD]

That could work with Cap better. Thor will most likely have beats with Stark over tech. The serious tension will aptly be Stark vs Cap. It's a relatively recent rift but Whedon will not pass that up.

[Jeritron]

I don't think it should work with either. I wasn't suggesting the idea as a positive thing

[Kalyx triaD]

Can't wait to see Thor vs Hulk in live-action.

[Jeritron]

Will Thor even stand a chance against Hulk? It looks as though they've toned down his power bigtime.

[Kalyx triaD]

Live-action wise, Hulk's the strongest there is, but hell if he don't get some Hammer. We might see Hulk Buster armor too.

[Kalyx triaD]

"Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance" films in the fall (in 3D) with Nic Cage still starring as the titular hellish biker.

[Rammsteinmad]

I'm one of the few people that didn't mind the GR film. Sure it wasn't brilliant, but it was good. Looking forward to this.

[Majunior]

I personally wish the Avenger's movie was using Grand Theft America as a plot.

That being said, Thor looks badass. And I'm interested to see how potent Thor is. I have a nagging feeling he spends most of the movie severely depowered.

[McLegend]

Ugh Nic Cage

He's in every movie now.

[Kalyx triaD]

Marvel Studios has brought aboard Rich Wilkes (the "XXX" film series) to write the screenplay, which will adapt the story of Danny Rand, the Marvel martial arts superhero created in the 1970's.

Now let's watch Ray Park not get the part.

[Jeritron]

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/8137/avengersn.png


I felt like posting this because I think it supports a theory/suspicion that I had a few months back in this thread.

I think this goes to show what I was talking about when I predicted Iron Man would be the focal point/leader of The Avengers movie.
I know this is just a cartoon, but it's a current project by Marvel with all this Avengers hype and Iron Man is clearly front and center while Captain America chills behind him in the shadows.

Iron Man is Marvel's current cash cow. No way is he not leading

[LuigiD]

Interesting.
For a second I thought Giant Man had a cape..then I realized it was Thor's.

[Rammsteinmad]

I remember posting that trailer a few months back. God I hope it's better than the last Avengers cartoon.

[Kalyx triaD]

The upcoming reboot is reportedly considering Stephen Moyer, better known as Bill on True Blood, to play Doctor Doom, and in fact an offer is already out to him. This is the first time there's been any indications Doctor Doom would be the villain of the new Fantastic Four movie (other than common sense, I guess - the Fantastic Four isn't really known for its extensive rogues gallery), if there's any truth to these rumors. Which is, as always, a pretty gigantic "if."

[The Destroyer]

Fantastic Four have plenty of villains. Just not many decent ones who'd work well enough to carry a film.

[Kalyx triaD]

Emma Frost on set:

http://www.infdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/januaryjonesfdsioafew.jpg

Overdressed, but it might be cold.

[parkmania]

Probably not in "the" White Queen costume to help push toward the PG(-13?) rating.

[Kalyx triaD]

She has major cleavage in the Nick cartoon!

[Kalyx triaD]

Stunt man in a Cap scene:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/09/08/article-0-0B18D1D3000005DC-343_634x422.jpg

[parkmania]

Cartoon =/= live action. Different format = different prejudices.

[mitchables]

that stuntman looks pretty out of shape :$

[Kalyx triaD]

Cool suit, though.

And the damn wings are there. Late adds after fan outcry?

[Rammsteinmad]

LOL that guy should play Cap.

[McLegend]

So anyone think this Captain America movie will be better then the 91 Captain America?

Gonna be hard to beat.

[Rammsteinmad]

The '91 movie with Matt Salinger? I use to love that film when I was a kid. Althought watching it now, it is terrible, and Cap's costume is probably the gayest costume I've ever seen in a film.

[LuigiD]

My favorite part of that film as a kid was the reference to the invaders. First time I saw it I thought they would make cameos but no..

[Kalyx triaD]

Ryan Reynolds hopes to be the face of two competing superhero franchises with “Green Lantern” and “Deadpool” but, after reading the gleefully subversive script for the latter, he isn’t too concerned about moviegoers getting the characters confused.

“It goes in such a different direction than a superhero movie usually goes,” Reynolds said over lunch recently at 101 Coffee Shop. “It’s a nasty piece of work. It’s just based in so much emotional filth, completely. It’s like ‘Barfly‘ if it were a superhero movie. It sort of treads into the world of an emotionally damaged person. I always say that Deadpool is a guy in a highly militarized shame spiral…. It’s so different than the superhero movies to date, it departs so far from that.”

Deadpool in action (Marvel Comics)

In “Green Lantern,” due next summer, Reynolds plays Hal Jordan, the cocky but courageous test pilot who becomes the first human member of the Green Lantern Corps, an interstellar peacekeeping group armed with power rings capable of almost anything. “Deadpool,” meanwhile, with a script by the ”Zombieland” writing tandem Rhett Reese and Paul Wernick, is far less ennobled and much more unsettling, judging by Reynolds’ description.

The Marvel character is a killer for hire with a wicked wit — he’s nicknamed “the merc with a mouth” — and healing ability that makes him almost impossible to kill. The antihero, manufactured by a sinister government program to be a murderous machine, is mentally unstable and morally slippery, which makes for an interesting challenge for the actor.

“With Deadpool, it’s a lot like going to prison for the first day,” Reynolds said. “You got to walk up and hit the biggest guy you see to establish a bit of cred. With Deadpool, early on you have to establish that moral flexibility. There’s a gamble to it — you’re going to lose a few people right at the beginning but you take the gamble and know that eventually you’re going to win them back. You won’t lose the hard-core fans of the character, they already know who he is. We have to play to a broader audience than that. As an actor you have to be willing to do something like … back in Vancouver we used to call it a [nasty] burger. ’You gotta eat the [nasty] burger to get to the cookies.’ And yes, I want to write a cookbook about that…”

Last year, Reynolds portrayed Deadpool in the Twentieth Century Fox film ”X-Men Origins: Wolverine“ and Fox has circled 2012 for the release of the character’s first solo film. The project is still taking shape and Robert Rodriguez has been in talks to direct but the deal has yet to be inked and the filmmaker’s schedule is a dense thicket with a number of projects already in place. Rodriguez has praised the “Deadpool” screenplay but only time will tell if he will be the one to direct it.

The new film won’t be beholden to the events depicted in ”Wolverine” in any way, Reynolds said, and, yes, fans can expect the character to break the fourth wall and address the audience at times like some sort of deranged Ferris Bueller armed with katana swords. That habit of talking straight to the audience was a hallmark of Deadpool in the comics, although after delving into the comics-rack history of the character Reynolds found that very few things have remained constant in the chronology of a character created by Rob Liefeld and Fabian Nicieza but taken in many different directions by other creators.

“The comics are very inconsistent in the writing,” Reynolds said. “All the different writers, different voices, but at the core of the character his heart is really interesting. He’s the funniest guy you’ll ever meet, too, and for me that’s exciting but it’s not as hard as capturing that moral flexibility, which is so important. He hasn’t really experienced the full spectrum of human emotion the way most people do.”

[Fignuts]

Great news. Sounds like they really "get" Deadpool.

[Kalyx triaD]

If only Ninja Theory 'got' DMC.

[Funky Fly]

Great news. Sounds like they really "get" Deadpool.

Win.

[Kalyx triaD]

Sony's Columbia Pictures has set a February 17, 2012 release date for Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance, directed by Mark Neveldine and Brian Taylor.

The sequel, again starring Nicolas Cage, has started shooting in Bucharest, Romania.

[Kalyx triaD]

Joss Whedon Speaks:

Sue: So – in terms of coming up to the Avengers though – because – that’s not your script originally is it?

Joss: It is now. Yeah. There was a script, but I had a different take on it. And when they showed it to me I said “But this doesn’t work for me, I would do something different.” And they said, “Well tell us what you would do,” and now I’m doing it.

Sue: And they’re trust you to do that?

Joss: They do! They do, Marvel – they’re very trusting at Marvel. It’s kind of like, in the early days of the WB, when you know, I came back to my agent and said, it was really different, really interesting, they respected what I was talking about, they listened to me and they really let me have my own way – and yeah, they have no idea what I’m doing! Marvel they do actually know, they know exactly what they want to do, but they don’t mind a film maker making his film in the service of what it is they want to do, they’re not trying to press me into something that isn’t me, which is really gratifying.

Sue: [mentions again they'll be opening the floor for questions soon and in the process forgets her own question] Along the lines of, this is a great moment – finally you get to join up your comic book love and the possibility of making a film – don’t you think it’d be a great TV Series though.? – never mind! But, you get to make the film, so. Clearly that’s joining the dots in a particular kind of way.

Joss: Oh yes. Oh yes. I was reading the Avengers when I was eleven, this is…it’s a big deal for me. I’ve wanted to make a comic book movie, and I was like, “nobody can make a comic book movie”, and then Spiderman came out and I was like “…ok, he can make a comic book movie!”. And you know, there’s been a couple of hits. But most of them I think haven’t – and I also feel that we sort of, we went from the really terrible Hollywood executive’s idea of what a comic book movie should be, to a very short moment when we sort of started getting it right, and then went directly to post-modern. Directly to Watchmen, Kick Ass, Dark Knight, where we’re sort of, we’re taking the comic book movie for granted, now we want to see what’s behind it. I’m like “Whoa-whoa-whoa! Wait a minute!”. First I want to see an awesome movie about superheros that are awesome, that I really care about the whole time, I haven’t seen enough of those. I don’t want to deconstruct it yet! First I want to construct it. So I do feel like there’s still a place for me out there. Even though you know, the genre which I had been desperate to see my whole childhood, and then my adulthood saw it happen while I was busy making TV Shows so I was like, “no I’m not…just wait! Just wait! I’ll be there in a minute!”. And then began to fear, is it over? But ultimately I think it’s very much not.

[Lock Jaw]

I wonder which Avenger is going to die in a sudden shocking way at the climax of the movie?

[Rammsteinmad]

War Machine.

[Fignuts]

It's Whedon not Bendis.

[Sixx]

http://www.pinkkryptonite.com/images/pinkkryptonite/nickfury.jpg

BRING DAVID BACK

[parkmania]

Columbia Pictures has announced that Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance, the sequel to the 2007 Ghost Rider movie, will be shot in 3-D and will debut on February 17th, 2012. Nicholas Cage will reprise his role as Johnny Blaze in the sequel, which is being helmed by Crank directors Mark Neveldine and Brian Taylor, who also share the dubious distinction of having written the script for the Jonah Hex movie.



Under Marvel’s “use it or lose it” policy Sony/Columbia was under considerable pressure to make a second Ghost Rider movie or lose the movie license to the property (see “Ghost Rider 2 Is No Reboot”).

[Funky Fly]

Can't wait till all the other companies lose their licenses and Marvel can have a proper movieverse.

[Kalyx triaD]

Marvel Studios head Kevin Feige has confirmed that discussions are already in the works to have Scarlett Johansson reprise her role as Natasha Romanoff in a Black Widow spinoff film, though the project will take a backburner while The Avengers is in development.

"We've already started discussions with Scarlett about the idea of a solo movie and have begun putting together concepts," said Feige in a press conference for the Iron Man 2 Blu-ray/DVD today, "but 'The Avengers' comes first."

Wonder is David Hayter can finally work on Black Widow officially.

[Sixx]

Columbia Pictures has announced that Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance, the sequel to the 2007 Ghost Rider movie, will be shot in 3-D and will debut on February 17th, 2012. Nicholas Cage will reprise his role as Johnny Blaze in the sequel, which is being helmed by Crank directors Mark Neveldine and Brian Taylor, who also share the dubious distinction of having written the script for the Jonah Hex movie.



Under Marvel’s “use it or lose it” policy Sony/Columbia was under considerable pressure to make a second Ghost Rider movie or lose the movie license to the property (see “Ghost Rider 2 Is No Reboot”).

Can't wait to see Nick's new toupee.

[Jeritron]

I always die a little bit inside when a movie that bad gets a sequel

[dronepool]

I approve of this so far-

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[Kalyx triaD]

Holy shit!

Love that they're channeling movie Iron Man dialogue and tone. Love the Cloverfield intro.

Consider me excited for the rest of the origin stories.

[Kalyx triaD]

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[dronepool]

That was awesome. And I agree, I like how they're channeling the Robert Downy Jr element with Tony. I hope they finally have a stable cartoon series that doesn't get canceled in 2 seasons.

[dronepool]

Sweet, we get a micro-episode a day.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_Avengers:_Earth%27s_Mightiest_Heroes_episodes

[Funky Fly]

Series looks fucking awesome.

[Swiss Ultimate]

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[Kalyx triaD]

Mark Ruffalo will also provide motion capture for the Hulk, which is always authentic and awesome.

[Kalyx triaD]

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[Rammsteinmad]

Wow, these cartoons are pretty sweet! And we're seeing a lot of characters who haven't been in any other Marvel series such as Hydra and the Wrecking Crew. One question though: are all the episodes supposed to be this short, 5-minute jobbys, or will there actually be pretty 20-30 minute episodes on TV.

Never really liked those cartoons that were 5 minute episodes, kinda like Clone Wars.

[Kalyx triaD]

These are just small episodes setting up back stories, the show will have the 25min runtime.

[Rammsteinmad]

That's cool to hear. I'll definitely check this out!

[Jura]

http://l.yimg.com/k/im_siggAOtQoRRBqZIAALa4.AYjkw---y660-x648-q75-n0/omg/us/img/5b/1a/7958_13850745725.jpg
http://l.yimg.com/k/im_siggu6xl6NS_3JiLcAxjVD5HsQ---y660-x648-q75-n0/omg/us/img/76/a5/3807_8623672496.jpg
http://l.yimg.com/k/im_siggqjvNi_n48xy503NgxxWEiQ---y660-x648-q75-n0/omg/us/img/e9/67/636_6475694305.jpg
http://l.yimg.com/k/im_siggMyugcWLQZQ4CFrVqRzLETw---y660-x648-q75-n0/omg/us/img/44/e6/3162_10867270086.jpg
http://l.yimg.com/k/im_siggRD0rMjBjbV2UFTbXfGjMNg---y660-x648-q75-n0/omg/us/img/33/f7/1769_2555485194.jpg

[Kalyx triaD]

Is he wearing fake feet?

The joys of movie making.

[Jura]

Yeah since he has to run in the street "barefoot" he is wearing fake feet to protect him.

[Kalyx triaD]

I got that.

[Jeritron]

I really like how Captain America looks. I wonder if they will update the costume (particularly the mask) once he's out of WWII

[Kalyx triaD]

I imagined Stark or SHIELD would give Cap and Thor some sort of upgrade gear in the third act.

[Lock Jaw]

Doesn't the whole movie take place in the past though?

[Kalyx triaD]

I was talking about Avengers.

[Jeritron]

Does the entire Captain America movie take place in WWII? I thought it was going to be half and half, but maybe I'm making that up

[Skippord]

some sexy capri pants Cap's got there

[dronepool]

Does the entire Captain America movie take place in WWII? I thought it was going to be half and half, but maybe I'm making that up

I think it's like 90% in the past.

[Jeritron]

I just read on Wikipedia that it was originally planned to be half WW2/half modern day, but it seems that with The Avengers on the horizon they've decided to make the whole thing WW2.
Makes sense, since they can cover the modern stuff only a year later in Avengers. Though I'm sure they'll be some kind of scene(s) that set that all up at the end.

[Jeritron]

Pretty stoked that it's primarily WWII really. I hope this is as much like Raiders of the Lost Ark as Joe Johnston claims.
I really think that's the perfect influence for a Cap movie. Especially one set in WW2

I also hope it's minimal on the CGI. Not a huge fan of overuse of the tool, but it will come off as especially inauthentic in a period film. There'll be plenty of that in Avengers so it would be a nice break. Doubtful though.

[Jura]

I bet you at the end of the movie they flash forward to the present and show Captain America doing something heroic with his new modern suit on and Fury comes and asks him to lead the Avengers.

[Rammsteinmad]

I would have imagined the end being the bit from Cap is frozen in ice.

Then after the end credits maybe Tony Stark or Nick Fury could appear and just say 'we've found him'. Or something like that.

Whatever. Cool pics though. Liking the costume, and Chris Evans looks pretty good.

[Kalyx triaD]

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[Kalyx triaD]

Interesting including Hulk's 'Planet Hulk/WWH' fluency. Also 10pts for Haweye's one-liner.

[Jura]

The Thor movie looks like it could be pretty decent.

[Jeritron]

I'm getting the vibe that Cap Am will be pretty good, and Thor will be shit. That's just my hunch though.
Obviously it could be the other way around, or they could both be great/shit.
I usually have a good feel for what I'm going to like, but during promotion of Iron Man I actually got the vibe that it might suck. I was way wrong. So who knows

[Lock Jaw]

Thor will probably be on the level with, if not better than, Iron Man 2. Probably not come close to the first Iron Man.

Captain America I am expecting to be great.

[Jeritron]

I think Captain America needs to be great. They're going to want to go into Avengers strong and it probably wouldn't be good at all if Captain America was disappointing.
I won't even really care if Thor is mediocre. I just feel like Captain America needs to deliver for Avengers to fire on all cylinders. Iron Man already did it's job and Incredible Hulk was good enough.
I have a lot of faith in Avengers otherwise.

[Rammsteinmad]

The Thor movie has the potential for some hugely epic battles!

[Sixx]

I can't stand Thor's look for this movie. Especially the haircut.

[Kalyx triaD]

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[Lock Jaw]

I like how all guns shoot lasers.

[parkmania]

http://i2.bebo.com/026b/7/large/2007/01/23/20/3178114044a3327197494b964639218l.jpg

[Kalyx triaD]

Shooting on X-Men: First Class is well underway in the United Kingdom and reports keep coming in from all over the web, including a number of tweets from British entertainment personality Jonathan Ross.

"I probably shouldn't tweet this," Ross wrote earlier today, "...but - saw some footage from X-Men First Class this morning. It will be AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

He quickly followed that, adding, "Also I was there for the filming of a January Jones as Emma Frost scene...in lingerie. Fanboys, start your drooling...."

[Kalyx triaD]

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Also:

http://cache-04.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/8/2010/10/thorsad.jpg
http://cache-03.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/8/2010/10/thor-1.jpg
http://cache-02.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/8/2010/10/thor_02.jpg

[parkmania]

As predicted by many (including ICv2 see “Emma Stone Up for Spidey Role”), the talented young actress Emma Stone has landed the plum female role in the new Spider-Man movie. What is somewhat unexpected is the fact that she will be playing Mary Jane Watson, since Sony layed down a smokescreen around the character by denying that MJ would be in the new film.



Sony tends to reward actors who do well for the studio, and Stone has turned in excellent performances in the successful horror comedy Zombieland and Easy A, the teen comedy that is currently in theaters.



According to Deadline, with Stone getting the MJ role, there are four actresses in contention for the Gwen Stacy part including Glee’s Diana Agron, Mia Wasikowska, Georgina Haig, and Dominique McElligott.
http://www.icv2.com/images/18486Emma_Stone1_MD.jpg

[Nowhere Man]

Nice choice for Mary Jane, though if they're going off of Ultimate Spider-Man, it doesn't exactly match the nerdy MJ from the comic. Hopefully this means she'll be more like the regular Marvel version.

[Jeritron]

She's way more MJ than Kirsten Dunst. I did like what they did with MJ in the first two movies, but I think Emma Stone will be different and more of the "Go get em tiger" Mary Jane

[Blitz]

Diana Agron would be a good Gwen Stacy.

[Kalyx triaD]

The smartass chick from Zombieland? Yeah, that's totally 616 MJ right there.

Spidey reboot is looking better and better. Now let's get Gwen and JJ casted.

[Blitz]

AICN reports that Stone was cast not as MJ, but Gwen.

[Jeritron]

That's strange. She seems way more suited to be MJ. She is absolutely perfect for MJ actually.

[Jeritron]

I wish them luck in trying to even come close to as good of a casting for Jameson as JK Simmons was

[dronepool]

"Aronofsky to Take on "Wolverine 2""

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=28699

[Jeritron]

Hopefully it's next to nothing like the first one. Since he's an amnesiac I think it will be easy for them to distance it from that first film and do their own thing.

[Nowhere Man]

That's strange. She seems way more suited to be MJ. She is absolutely perfect for MJ actually.

Well, they did say that the reboot was based off of the Ultimate Spider-Man comics, and in those Mary Jane and Gwen pretty much just had their personalities swapped around, so MJ is the innocent girl-next-door type, and Gwen is the smartass sassy type prone to skanky outfits and juvenile delinquency. So if they are indeed taking the USM route, I guess Emma Stone works for Gwen now instead of MJ.

[Jeritron]

I wish they'd explore the 80's era of more adult Spiderman comics, where Peter Parker is out of college, married to MJ, and we see villains like Kingpin and all his goons. Then maybe down the road you could see the symbiotes done properly.
I'd rather have seen them go there, rather than back to the beginning. They wouldn't have to be sequels to the first 3 at all. But they could sort of just dig into a whole new style and cast without re-doing high school/college and the origins. Sort of like what Batman Forever went for, but better.

[Kalyx triaD]

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"Howlett, I need recon!"
"I'm working on it, bub."

HSKSHKJDHKHE

Lot's of Robin overlap with Bucky, too (VO, mannerisms).

[Rammsteinmad]

Wow.

This cartoon is looking fucking awesome! This has the potential to be the best Marvel cartoon ever if they let it run for more than two seasons (better than 90's X-Men and Spider-Man).

Really cool to see Bucky, Dum Dum, Wolverine and 'James' (he became the Nomad right?).

Nice ending as well, assuming that is the end for now. It was revealed in a comic somewhere that Cap first encountered Thor back in WW2 when Thor captured an Asgardian Wolf thingy that had escaped and was slaughtering soldiers.

[Inadequacy]

Kind of funny that the original Spider man movies casta blond as MJ, and now they've cast a red head as Gwen Stacey.

[Blitz]

Emma Stone is a natural blonde, apparently.

[Inadequacy]

Wikipedia says you're right.

Oh well

[Blitz]

Entertainment Weekly reporting that Rhys Ifans has been cast as the villain in the Spider Man reboot. Which villain is not known.

[Kalyx triaD]

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[Kalyx triaD]

With Bucky, you think they're going to... go there?

[Reavant]

what u mean?

[Fignuts]

Winter Soldier.

[parkmania]

I doubt there'll be time for it in the first movie. They MIGHT make a mention of it in the Avengers movie, but I doubt more than that.

[Kalyx triaD]

Talking about the cartoons...

BUT

The dude playing Bucky in the Cap movie curiously signed for future Marvel films. Hmmmm...

[Kalyx triaD]

Script review for Deadpool's latest draft. Minor spoilers, but it sounds awesome. (http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Deadpool-Script-Review-This-Role-Could-Make-Ryan-Reynolds-An-Icon-21158.html)

[Jeritron]

I just hope it's directed by Robert Rodriguez

[Jeritron]

Wow that sounds awesome. I stopped reading because I don't want to know any more.

[Kalyx triaD]

I wonder of Fox has the balls to stay true to the tone. Sounds more hardcore than the comic.

[Krimzon7]

Holy SHIT! This sounds fun, dark, disgusting, hilarious and awesome all at once.

[Fignuts]

I am now more psyched for Deadpool than I am for Avengers.

Release the flying pigs.

[Funky Fly]

Can we hope for a Bea Arthur reference?

[Jeritron]

I am now more psyched for Deadpool than I am for Avengers.

Release the flying pigs.


Hopefully it actually gets made. Sounds like the thing even being greenlit is in question. How is Reynolds involvement in question? I thought he was signed on for it.

[Kalyx triaD]

WB wants to cockblock and hold Ryan for Green Lantern back-to-back sequels, which isn't really their style to people assumed they specifically didn't want him in another superhero movie.

Not like Fox/Marvel had him first but business this and that.

My ass if Ryan doesn't do this.

[Jeritron]

While they're at it they should add a subtle joke about him also being Green Lantern. If they're going to allude to Wolverine being a seperate thing and sucking, then why not?

[Kalyx triaD]

Well if GL turns out awesome I don't think they'd risk it. Ripping on quality shows and celebs did MADtv no favors in their final years.

[Jeritron]

I agree with the movie having no connection to Wolverine, but since they're using the same actor to play the role it will be strange to hear him reference it.
I know Deadpool breaks the 4th wall, but he still exists in the X-Men universe. And reboots don't usually refer to what they're rebooting.
Kind of hard to tell what they mean by referencing it without coming out and saying it. I'd guess I'd have to see what he says to understand.

[Jeritron]

I thought the whole idea was that the bootleg Deadpool from the end of the Wolverine movie wasn't actually him.
Maybe that's what he'll address, while subtlely joking about how much it sucked.

[Jeritron]

Then again, if they're using Colossus it's probably just a total reboot with no ties to the X-Men movies other than Reynolds.
That's great since Colossus was a total waste in part 3. His cameo in 2 was great but like everything else, the ball was dropped when Singer left.



So it's probably nothing to do with any of the X-Men movies altogether. Since they don't actually mention the Wolverine movie directly, it will probably be some subtle jab that makes sense within the movie, but also has a double meaning to the fans watching who get it.

[Kalyx triaD]

I'm not so sure this Deadpool exists in the Singer-verse (which is pretty much at an end anyway). Even Wolverine 2 sounds like a reboot.

The X-Men universe is literally doing the opposite of the Avengers universe, branching off into separate entities. Strange.

[Jeritron]

Yea but they're using the same actors and loosely trying to fit into the continuity, while rebooting. That leads to confusion.

With Deadpool it can work since he breaks the 4th wall and can make a subtle reference to it, and the movie can just be it's own thing outside of that.
Although it's strange to think he will exist in a universe where Wolverine is a movie to him as well. That's why I'm thinking there has to be more to that reference than the article reveals. It can't really say that.

Wolverine 2 can't be a reboot at all. Not as long as Hugh Jackman is playing the role.
They can completely ignore the first Wolverine though, which I hope they do. Since he has amnesia he can just be onto his next adventure with no memories or references to the previous film, at all. But it won't go back on anything from that film I don't think. Not with the same actor in the role.

[Jeritron]

Also, haven't they confirmed that X-Men First Class is trying to serve as a prequel to the X-Men movies?
There are hardly any X-Men in it because they are letting the continuity limit them.
They want to reboot, but they're still fucking around with the movies also being sequels.

[Kalyx triaD]

Emma Frost is in First Class, a direct contradiction to Wolverine 1 (which is of the Singer-verse). First Class is very much a reboot. And having Hugh Jackman won't stop a reboot any more than Ryan stops Deadpool from being reboot. They're pretty much writing new rules here.

[Jeritron]

But they have also said it is a prequel. The director says it's a prequel. Cyclops, Storm, Jean Grey and other major characters have been specifically left out because they are adhering to loose rules.
If they were starting from scratch, don't you'd think they'd want some of the major X-Men to be in their X-Men movie?
Why would they even go back to First Class instead of just starting over with all the components like Spiderman and Batman have?

Contradictions are a result of them trying to keep it a franchise while going in new directions. It's a mess, not a reboot.

[Jeritron]

http://splashpage.mtv.com/2010/08/03/x-men-first-class-mutants-continuity

[Jeritron]

I think what's happening here is the first 3 X-Men movies are being treated like Canon, but that piece of shit Wolverine flick is being thrown in the trash, both by the X-Men prequel, and the Wolverine and Deadpool solo films that are coming in the wake of Wolverine

[Kalyx triaD]

Now let's watch Charles and Erik's visit to a young Jean Grey go ignored, as well as Charles save in Origins.

At what point would you consider this a reboot?

[Kalyx triaD]

And actions speak louder than words. I know what a reboot is, and unless there's some Star Trek genius explanation in the story, everything about this production says reboot.

[Jeritron]

When the people making it do. When they completely ignore any previous films and include the characters from a clean slate.
Cleverly leaving characters out of it and trying to fit it into the timeline of the existing films isn't a reboot. It may be trying to reboot things in a way, but it really isn't. The director says so. They're trying to have their cake and eat it too.
They are making creative choices based on elements from the other movies.

If we saw a whole new X-Men universe with all new introductions for Cyclops, Jean, Wolverine, etc. etc. etc. then it would be a reboot.
I'll take the director and character listing's word on this being a prequel.

[Jeritron]

And actions speak louder than words. I know what a reboot is, and unless there's some Star Trek genius explanation in the story, everything about this production says reboot.

Besides the director. And the fact that none of the characters from the original film are being included aside from Magneto and Prof X at a younger age.

[Kalyx triaD]

We won't really know until First Class 2 or 3, where they have no choice but to tread on Singer-verse ground, and then see if it's in continuity or not.

[Jeritron]

I'm not sure where you're coming from though, just looking at the information about the movie.
You think they're rebooting this like Batman Begins or the upcoming Spider-Man, but they have just decided to include characters like Banshee, Havok and Azazel, and coincidentally leave out all of the major recognizable mutants from the first films like Cyclops, Jean Grey, Storm, Wolverine, Nightcrawler? All of them. None of them are in it, but some of their fathers are, but it's a reboot?

[Jeritron]

We won't really know until First Class 2 or 3, where they have no choice but to tread on Singer-verse ground, and then see if it's in continuity or not.

That doesn't change the fact that this isn't a reboot. If they retroactively decide to say fuck the originals, and build off of this and re-introduce all of the other characters, that doesn't mean it's a reboot.
It just means they decided to do so at a later date. This movie is clearly being made to be in continuity, besides the director coming out and saying as much.
Plus they are setting it in a timeframe that allows it to be so. If they were trying to start X-Men anew they would probably not be going for the late 1960s. They would set it in present for a number of reasons.

[Kalyx triaD]

They showed interest in going back into Prof X and especially Magneto's past for a while, in continuity or not.

I'm simply not convinced at this prequel angle.

[Jeritron]

Why aren't you convinced? The director says it's a prequel, and it's clearly fucking obvious that they are setting it the past and leaving out characters who are not of age or were introduced differently in the orignal films.
The only example you have given is Emma Frost from Wolverine (which has likely just been ignored) and your own notion that it's a reboot, and that's that.
Everyone making it, and everything about the film that is known has pointed to it being a prequel plain and simple.
That's like saying Star Wars Episode 1 is a reboot, because I say so, and you can't prove me wrong until they don't introduce Han Solo and Luke Skywalker differently.
You're asking me to disregard everything the director, filmmakers, and common sense is saying about the movie, and prove a negative (it's a reboot until Wolverine doesn't show up in any hypothetical sequels), based on your claim which is supported by 0 evidence.

[Jeritron]

So if they make 4 of these, and Wolverine and Rogue are still never introduced, you can say it's still a reboot because it might happen in the next one? Just ignoring all of the evidence to the contrary.
Don't you see how that is an ass backwards argument that has no end to it?

Also, just looking at it as a property, if this was a reboot the studio and filmakers would be chomping at the bit to get all of the recognizable characters in there. You think they just don't like money and popular characters, and just want to use Banshee and Havok instead of Wolverine and Rogue etc. for the fuck of it?

[Jeritron]

They showed interest in going back into Prof X and especially Magneto's past for a while, in continuity or not.

I'm simply not convinced at this prequel angle.

Yes and their interest in doing so was in the form of prequels set in the 1960s, just like this has shaped into being.

The reason they have show such interest in going into the past of the franchise is because they want to continue it, but X3 fucked it up so much they can only go backwards.

It will be a reboot when they decide to reboot. Not when you decide it is. I'm sorry Jean Kalyx but I feel like you are completely ignoring multiple facts here just to preserve some notion that you had of it being a reboot.

[Kalyx triaD]

Nope, not buying it. Nope, nope, nope.

[Jeritron]

Let me phone Mathew Vaughn and tell him that Jean Kalyx has sniffed him out and he can't proceed as planned.

[Kalyx triaD]

Ask him if he's making a Hit-Girl reboot/spin-off/alternate universe/sequel while you're at it.

[Jeritron]

He says he's making a Kick Ass movie set several years before Kick Ass, and for the most part faithful to the events of Kick Ass, without including any characters first introduced during first movie. There will be no reworking of events. He says it's what is referred to in the industry as a "prequel" and very similar to what they did with Star Wars, or the upcoming Hobbit picture.

It's a reboot, I think.

[Kalyx triaD]

Sounds awesome. And suspicious.

[Jeritron]

They should just have all prints and evidence of X-Men 3 and Wolverine destroyed. Pretend it never happened, and let Bryan Singer make X-Men 3, 4, and so on.

[Kalyx triaD]

Wish Raimi was doing Spidey 4.

[Jeritron]

True, but at least the last Spiderman Raimi did was disappointing. Not that it was really his fault either, but the fact that it was flawed makes it a little bit easier to accept that they're starting over clean.
I still think they should have let him do Spidey 4. Him and his take deserved another try. I'm sure it would have taken things back to basics.
I'm actually warming up to the new Spidey based on some of the casting. I still think it's too soon but that isn't going to make me root against it. I hope it's great. Though I do wish they'd explore some new territory. Going back to the origin story seems a bit pointless now. They can start fresh without doing that again.

In the case of X-Men, Singer never failed. A damn shame he didn't continue. They should have at least been more conservative in their treatment of the story and characters so there was a possible future of him returning, or any future for that matter.

Oh well on both accounts, I guess.

[Blitz]

Rhys Ifans playing Curt Connors/The Lizard apparently.

[Jeritron]

I'm glad they're finally going to do Lizard. Since it's going to start with Spidey's days as a student I think it's a fine choice.
It's a shame though because they had built Curt Connors up so well in the Spider-Man films. It would have been great when Raimi did it in part 4.

I'd still like to see them go a different route with villains in this series though. Does Sony have the rights to Kingpin, or does Fox have him locked up with Daredevil?
I'd love to see Kingpin established as a major crime lord/villain in Spider-Man. That would be a great way to use some of Spider-Mans villains that wouldn't really be able to carry an entire film alone. Tombstone, Smythe, Shocker and Rhino, maybe even Scorpion or Hobgoblin.

It would also be a different approach to the villains, to have him fighting a crime lord and corrupt businessman. They could also build up Oscorp and the Norman Osborn arch a bit more this time around, and even play Jameson as more of an asshole than comic relief.
That would really set the tone for the whole scope of Spidey's New York and the odds he's up against with corporations, the mafia, and the media all against him, while he still has to balance girlfriends and homework.

I think it would be a lot more complex and wide-scale than him fighting individual villains who wreak havoc after failed experiments. That's great in it's own right, but Raimi did it so well and it would be nice to see them captialize on a chance to do something different.

[mitchables]

well the odds logically should be good as that's exactly how bendis wrote/writes ultimate spider-man. real focus on organised crime.

[Jeritron]

I really love Kingpin. I haven't read Ultimates but that's great. I was a huge fan of Spidey comics from the 80s because of their use of Kingpin and his lesser villains

[mitchables]

read the original run of usm. bendis took spidey's 12 page origin story and made it last the whole first arc, basically. lots of interaction with b-listers and a decent clone saga. it's good stuff.

[Jura]

Marvel, ABC prep TV return for "Incredible Hulk"
By Borys Kit and James Hibberd Thu Oct 14, 8:12 PM PDT

Who's ready for another Hulk TV series?

As DC Comics heroine Wonder Woman, who had a TV series during the 1970s, is being prepped for a return to the small screen, Marvel and ABC are developing a TV return for the Incredible Hulk. CBS produced a memorable series featuring the jade giant that ran from 1978-82 and starred Bill Bixby and Lou Ferrigno.

At the end of the decade, ABC followed up with three TV movies that featured incarnations of Marvel heroes Daredevil and Thor.

"Hulk" is one of two projects that are priorities at Marvel Television, Marvel Studio's TV division, which has been operating under the radar since Jeph Loeb took the reins at the end of June. The second hot property is "Cloak and Dagger," which is being developed as a possible show for ABC Family.

Both are in the early stages of development; "Hulk" has a "showrunner wanted" placard around its neck; meanwhile, Loeb is meeting with writers to hear ideas for "Cloak and Dagger."

Marvel began narrowing its list of possible TV adaptations in May with a presentation on the Disney lot. Executives presented ABC suits with a list of titles they identified as possible series:


"Heroes for Hire" (focusing on ex-con Luke Cage offering to take on bad guys for a price);
"The Eternals" (a race of superpowered beings live amid humanity in secret, inspiring legends);
"Agents of Atlas, Alter Ego" (private investigator Jessica Jones takes on cases involving superhumans);
"Moon Knight, the Red Hood" (a low-rent criminal discovers a cloak that gives him superpowers);
"Ka-Zar" (a Tarzan-type and his saber-toothed tiger must journey to the concrete jungle to seek justice);
"Daughters of the Dragon" (a dynamic female duo, one with a bionic arm and the other a granddaughter of a samurai, open a private-detective agency); and
"The Punisher" (one man wages a war on crime; already adapted as two feature films).
"Cloak and Dagger" wasn't on the list. "Hulk" was.


Although the focus appears to be on "Hulk" and "Cloak and Dagger," "Punisher" also has been selected from the herd and is eyed as a cable entry, but that is even further away. Marvel's TV division wants to take things slow, according to insiders, focusing on one or two shows, making sure they are the best they can be and establishing a quality brand before moving forward.

Marvel is in the middle of establishing a shared universe among its movies (the plots and characters form one big story), but it's unknown whether the studio will undertake a similar path with TV. Also unknown is whether there would be a connection between the film world and TV world.

[Jeritron]

Punisher should be on premium cable so they don't have to hold back, but they can probably do it justice on basic cable as long as the channel gives them some slack.

Incredible Hulk as a television series similar to the original would be "incredible." I wonder if they'd use CGI or an actor again. Hopefully it wouldn't be horrible looking TV quality CGI.
Too bad Mark Ruffalo is way too big of a star to carry over into the television series

[Sixx]

[B]

"The Punisher" (one man wages a war on crime; already adapted as two feature films).




So they don't acknowledge the Dolph Lundgren version?

[Jeritron]

I'm not so sure it was ever even released in theaters

[Sixx]

I'm not so sure it was ever even released in theaters

According to imdb it was released theatrically in many countries, but not US.

So I guess that might be it.

[Jeritron]

I don't even remember that Mariachi shit in the trailer. Is that the same guy from Desperado?

[Rammsteinmad]

A Punisher TV series would be great as long as they get to cut loose on the violence.

There's actually some other pretty cool options there, but the problem with TV someone mentioned above is that the effects are usually shit, and I'd hate to see my beloved Marvel characters look shit like that.

[Lock Jaw]

"Moon Knight, the Red Hood"?

As in somehow combining these two different characters into one?

[Sixx]

"Moon Knight, the Red Hood"?

As in somehow combining these two different characters into one?

Big Bad Wolf ate Alfred.

[Funky Fly]

Probably more like Moon Knight is after the Hood (WTF @ Red Hood?)

[The Destroyer]

"Moon Knight, the Red Hood"?

As in somehow combining these two different characters into one?
Unlikely given Red Hood isn't even a Marvel character.

[Sixx]

Fuck. Just googled it and it's some DC character.

Thought you were talking about Red Riding Hood. Meh.

[The Destroyer]

I think they mean The Hood. It would certainly tie in with the description of the plot.

[Sixx]

I think they mean The Hood. It would certainly tie in with the description of the plot.

No. Red Riding Hood would.

[Lock Jaw]

Thought he WAS called Red Hood and not just "The Hood". People would call him The Hood for short, but his full legal name was Red Hood.

[The Destroyer]

Nope.

Either goes by The Hood or by his real name of Parker Robbins.

[Kalyx triaD]

SHIELD Helicarrier!:

http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/8/2010/10/heli0.jpg
http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/8/2010/10/heli1.jpg

Was supposed to be in Iron Man 2. Will most likely be in Avengers.

[Rammsteinmad]

I hope they build a life-size set. :drool:

[Kalyx triaD]

Actually they wanna build a replica (not life-size, of course) for next year's Comic-Con.

[Rammsteinmad]

How about building a real one, then hold the CC there.

[Kalyx triaD]

We wish.

[Kalyx triaD]

Disney will be distributing Avengers and Iron Man 3 (oops, confirmation) instead of Paramount - who are pretty much building up Avengers as we speak. Disney purchased the rights legit, so I wonder what the heck Paramount were thinking.

This will likely not affect material.

[Funky Fly]

All they have to do is make the movies they are still doing good and make a ton of money and then move on. Paramount can't sabotage the project without costing themselves millions of dollars in the process.

[Jeritron]

Makes sense that Disney would distribute now that they own Marvel anyways. I'm sure Disney would like to distribute all of the Marvel films eventually.

[Kalyx triaD]

Marvel + Tron =

http://cache-04.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/8/2010/10/otron5.jpg

Moar (http://io9.com/5667163/what-if-iron-man-captain-america-and-thor-starred-in-tron/gallery/)

Disney and Marvel could do sexy things together.

[Jeritron]

I wonder what projects they have lined up

[Kalyx triaD]

Disney should hit up Power Pack already.

[Jeritron]

I wonder if they will do a Marvel-Disney universe crossover video game

[Lock Jaw]

Marvel Universe in the next Kingdom Hearts game.

[Kalyx triaD]

Not in Square-Enix's house.

[McLegend]

Every now and then I will watch The Iron man cartoon from 95 or 96. Let me tell you something that show is bad. I know 95 is kind of a long time ago, but the show looks like it was made in 1985. The animation, the dialogue, and the acting is terrible. Same with Fantastic Four, and Silver Surfer. The Incredible Hulk at best might be ok... At best. Also The Spider-Man cartoon was terrible so don't say that was good.

Outside of the X-Men cartoon how come Marvel cartoons were so bad? I feel like they should have been better. They should have had a better decade.

[Jeritron]

The Spider-Man cartoon was good.

[Jeritron]

If you're wondering why they were bad it's probably because they were saturday morning cartoons for kids and the storyelling was simplified and in many cases toned down to have less violence.
I don't reccomend holding kids cartoons up to the standard of adult storytelling. You're going to be disappointed. There are few exceptions.
Also, if you think Spider-Man is awful how do you think X-Men is good? The dialogue and content is the same shit, and the animation is worse.