NFL 2009 Season Thread

[Supreme Olajuwon]

HOLD THE PHONE, MAVIS

[Heros Welcome]

Still furious over this game

[FearedSanctity]

Where's ESPN to get the stat for miracle recoveries followed by crap hail marys?

[Boomer]

Not going to get too upset about the game. They can redeem themselves at home against the Saints later on in the year.

[weather vane]

GO DOLPHINS YAY!

[Triple A]

Quick question for people from New York. What's the breakdown in the New York Metropolitan area between Jets and Giants fans? Is it geographically divided, socioeconomically divided, or is it just kinda random?

Seems kinda random. I think there are probably more Giants fans than Jets fans though around where I am (NYC area). Like maybe 70-30 but that is just a blind guess.

I feel like a lot of times it coincides with baseball. Mets/Jets, Giants/Yankees. Not for everyone obviously. Lot of Yankees/Jets, Giants/Mets people on here.

Dunno, I guess it is just random. I used to just <3 both the Giants and Jets when I was little b/c I would always watch both games and had no reason to root against a NY team, then finally "just picked one" (Jets) because I always used them in Madden and they were the "underdog" NY team

[Triple A]

For the most part, you'll find more Jets fans in Long Island and more Giants fans in NYC/Jersey.

Yeah this is pretty accurate actually

[Skippord]

Browns ax their GM 11 months into the job. Mangini hand picked him, think he'll go after the season?
The Browns players wish

[SammyG]

BTW, Rams only 3 games back on the division.

Just sayin.

[D Mac]

Saints still undefeated! Who dat?

[SammyG]

Y'ALLS D IS STOUT

[D Mac]

They are my bandwagon team.

[Skippord]

god I hate the Saints

[DAMN iNATOR]

Watched bits of last nights game and all I can say is WOW! That shit was amazing. Simply one of the wildest games I'd seen in a bit with all the late 4th quarter drama, reviews/challenges, etc. I was honestly thinking Atlanta would tie it up and send it to O.T. but props to New Orleans pulling out the victory.

[Heros Welcome]

god I hate the Saints

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I don't hate the Saints. I find it hard to hate a team that's been to the playoffs twice in the last 16 seasons and has 3 winning seasons during that same time frame. Maybe Saints fan could tone it down a little bit but you can say that about almost every team.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

For me to hate a team, they must meet 3 requirements: 1) Annoying players 2) Annoying fans 3) Team success

The Steelers are the only team that meets this IMO, but I could see an argument for the Patriots, Chargers, Ravens, Cowboys, Giants, and Eagles depending on how you feel about their players and fans.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I think annoying fans is the biggest determinant for me on whether or not I hate a team. I honestly don't know if I can pick who I hate more between the Eagles and Cowboys.

Cowboys have the biggest fanbase in the NFL because they had a '90s dynasty and are still labeled "America's Team", so that's annoying. But Philly fans are just scummy. This weekend when Osi Umenyiora got injured (fortunately it wound up only being a play) but he was writhing on the ground in pain initially...when they showed it on the big screen there was a massive cheer. Fuck them.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>It'll never happen but could you imagine if the Colts and Saints both went into the Super Bowl at 18-0 (or really, any two teams any year for that matter).

Mercury Morris would be crying himself to sleep the night before.</font>

[DaveBrawl]

<font color=goldenrod>I think annoying fans is the biggest determinant for me on whether or not I hate a team. I honestly don't know if I can pick who I hate more between the Eagles and Cowboys.

Cowboys have the biggest fanbase in the NFL because they had a '90s dynasty and are still labeled "America's Team", so that's annoying. But Philly fans are just scummy. This weekend when Osi Umenyiora got injured (fortunately it wound up only being a play) but he was writhing on the ground in pain initially...when they showed it on the big screen there was a massive cheer. Fuck them.</font>

Yeah but Osi was taunting the Eagles a couple plays earlier by flapping his "wings" after he took down their running back for a loss. I don't agree with cheering when someone gets hurt, but that one was probably egged on a lot by his actions.

I get where you're coming from though. Like Supremem mentioned the Chargers fit definately into that annoying team mold even without any real success and their mostly bandwagon fans.

[ClockShot]

Seahawks release Edgerrin James.

Chefs grab Chris Chambers.

[Skippord]

why did the Broncos think Mitch Berger would be a better punter than Bret Kern?

[OssMan]

Assuming Kris P Lettus has died since no Saints post

[Heros Welcome]

Its only a matter of time before we get the "Greatest Team" posts.

[Innovator]

I'll fill in for him

who dat who dat drew breeeeeees

[Droford]

Intrigue on the upcoming week odds:

Detroit + 10 vs Seattle - I know Detroit is bad, but Seattle is not good enough to be favored by 10 points against anyone.
Kansas City + 6.5 vs Jacksonville - KC coming off the bye and Jacksonville coming off getting rolled over by Tennessee.
San Diego + 4.5 vs NY Football Giants - if you believe the Giants are in a freefall..if the Cardinals could go into NY and beat the Giants I think the Chargers have a shot as well.

[Kris P Lettus]

Would love nothing more then my dirty birds going into Norleans and smacking the Saints in the mouth! Can't stand them!!! Can't stand Reggie Bush! Also the thought of being able to rub it in Krispys face since I'm tired of hearing about how GREAT the Saints are.

Divisional game under the bright lights of Monday night. Can't wait for this one!

I went..

Managed to spill a 22oz draft beer on three Falcons fans sitting in front of us..

The Thunderdome was f'n crazy.. Quarter was even crazier after the game..

Amazing game..

[Kris P Lettus]

Assuming Kris P Lettus has died since no Saints post

I am the Rigging Electric Best Boy on a feature film right now.. Barely have time to watch football, let alone post about it..

[DrA]

Seahawks release Edgerrin James.

Chefs grab Chris Chambers.

Fucking hate how the best players in the NFL suddenly can't find a team to play on two years later.

[Stinkfist]

I went..

Managed to spill a 22oz draft beer on three Falcons fans sitting in front of us..

The Thunderdome was f'n crazy.. Quarter was even crazier after the game..

Amazing game..

I am the Rigging Electric Best Boy on a feature film right now.. Barely have time to watch football, let alone post about it..

:?:

[Kris P Lettus]

What do you not understand??

[Stinkfist]

I went..
Managed to spill a 22oz draft beer on three Falcons fans sitting in front of us..

The Thunderdome was f'n crazy.. Quarter was even crazier after the game..

Amazing game..

I am the Rigging Electric Best Boy on a feature film right now.. Barely have time to watch football, let alone post about it..

[FearedSanctity]

Yeah, "Barely have time" not "have no time at all"

[Stinkfist]

:wtf:

[Kris P Lettus]

Exactly.. I saw NO football this weekend cause I was rigging Mardi Gras World for this movie.. I didn't get into the Dome until the end of the first quarter and that was me and 3 of my buddies leaving set and going straight there with no shower, etc..

[Kris P Lettus]

Still don't see how this confuses you..

[FearedSanctity]

Oh for the love of god...

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[Stinkfist]

:nono:

[FearedSanctity]

Brilliant counter-point

[Stinkfist]

:roll:

[Kris P Lettus]

wow

[Stinkfist]

:eek:

[SammyG]

RAMS GONNA WHOOP DAT SAINT ASS IN A COUPLE WEEKS WHO DAT STEVEN JACKSON

[Kris P Lettus]

lol rams

[Jeritron]

big showdown on monday night, the 30th, Krispy

[redoneja]

Its only a matter of time before we get the "Greatest Team" posts.

While I think Saints fans are excited, I don't think they are shortsighted enough to claim this

[Droford]

BTW, Rams only 3 games back on the division.

Just sayin.

If they got their act together after New Orleans, they could go 7-9 or even 8-8.

Arizona
Seattle
@Chicago
@Tennessee
Houston
@Arizona
SF

7-9 could win the NFC West given how bad all the teams are.

[Shadow]

Say it with me folks.

FUCK THE REDSKINS TILL DAN SNYDER ACTUALLY HIRES A REAL GM!

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>lol Chiefs fans have begun petitioning Scott Pioli, telling him to deactivate Larry Johnson before he breaks the all time Chiefs rushing yard record.</font>

[screech]

Fucking hate how the best players in the NFL suddenly can't find a team to play on two years later.

Is Alexander on a team yet?

Still baffled over Harrison not being on a team.

[McLegend]

It's cause he has legal problems, and is a bad dude.

Also he's really washed up.

[screech]

Thought he squared away his problems.

I'd like to see him on the Ravens. Flacco needs a consistent target.

[Droford]

Thought he squared away his problems.

I'd like to see him on the Ravens. Flacco needs a consistent target.

they already have one over the hill reciever in Mason (who is still really good mind you..) I wish they had managed a trade for Boldin, but Im thinking may be able to snag Steve Smith from Carolina or some other disgruntled WR in the offseason.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Bob Sanders out for season. What a joke. In six years, he could have played in a maximum of 96 regular season games. He's played in 47.

I know you love him RP, but the dude needs to retire before he winds up a walking injury for he rest of his life.</font>

[SammyG]

Jesus Christ, the Colts just lost 3 starters....

[ClockShot]

Ty Law signs a deal with the Broncos.

I guess it can work. Champ just gotta let him know who's the boss of the defense, and he should be just fine.

[Droford]

For $4,000 this weekend..

Chiefs + 6 1/2
Ravens - 3 1/2
Chargers + 4 1/2
Falcons - 10 1/2
Eagles - 3 1/2
Packers - 10 1/2

Other than the Ravens, I will put a curse on any team that ends up not covering if they are the only team that doesn't and ends up costing me 4 grand. They will never win another playoff game as long as Im alive.

And in reality, I should have saved the big money bet for next week but anyway..

[SammyG]

Bye week over Rams

[Supreme Olajuwon]

How are the Ravens favorited on the road against a team that already beat them

[RP]

Fucking huge game for the Colts tommorow. If they beat Houston as beat up as they are, they're the best team in the league hands down. Why? Cause they have depth. They've been the best defense in football with so many injuries. Our rookie DB's are playing like pro bowlers.

Go Colts! Lets do this shit!

[FearedSanctity]

I'll pretty much agree with that RP, if they manage to pull it off they're best in the league easily.

Don't think they're gonna win though

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Going to the game. Probably my last game in Giants Stadium. The season is definitely on the line I think. Their season isn't going to get any easier and heading into the bye week on a 4 game losing streak could be catastrophic.

LET'S GO GIANTS!!!</font>

[RP]

Indy is gunna crush Houston today. I can feel it. This is gunna be one of those statement games from Manning and the boys. Everyone is picking against them. Everyone acts like this is Houstons time and i just dont see it. I see Manning just murdering this team while everyone in the country watches. Mark my words, after today, everyone will say Indy is the best in the league.


I also think the Saints will lose today. I think Carolina is gunna run it non stop. And they have a fantastic running game and when they run it, you see shit like that TD pass to Steve Smith where he faked a screen on Cromartie and Delhome pumped it and then layed it out 20 yards down the field for Smith with no one catching him. I truely think Carolina is better then people think and everyone just judges them by how bad Delhome is, but there running game is amazing.

[VonErichLives]

Why do people think the Saints are better then the Colts?
Because the Saints have put up more points? Haven't we seen enough greatest shows on turf to know it's not all offense?

The Saints have a great offense but not a great D.

The Colts have a great D (although another injury or two and they could be in trouble).

The colts may not have put up the most points in the league, but does anyone really want to get in a shoot out with that offense?

I think the Colts can always put up more points if needed but I can't see the Saints playing shut-down D...

Oh and Pats>Colts... :P (yeah, just kidding... at least until we play this year and kick their butt in Indy!) :P

[RP]

you mean next week? When we destroy your patchwork secondary and paper thin defensive line?

[Droford]

Indy is gunna crush Houston today. I can feel it. This is gunna be one of those statement games from Manning and the boys. Everyone is picking against them. Everyone acts like this is Houstons time and i just dont see it. I see Manning just murdering this team while everyone in the country watches. Mark my words, after today, everyone will say Indy is the best in the league.


I also think the Saints will lose today. I think Carolina is gunna run it non stop. And they have a fantastic running game and when they run it, you see shit like that TD pass to Steve Smith where he faked a screen on Cromartie and Delhome pumped it and then layed it out 20 yards down the field for Smith with no one catching him. I truely think Carolina is better then people think and everyone just judges them by how bad Delhome is, but there running game is amazing.

The reason everyone's picking against the colts is because they probably should have lost last week vs the 49ers and most people see Houston as a better team than the 49ers (which is debatable given Houston's inconsistencies).

As far as the Panthers, I predict of The Man will throw 3-4 interceptions, and the Saints should roll. The Panthers only wins are vs the Redskins and Bucs and the bad version of the Cardinals, and they even managed to lose to Buffalo...they aren't beating the Saints.

[Droford]

Dolphins pick off Tom Brady early..uhoh

[SammyG]

Some Bear got ejected for slugging someone? That's the text I got from ESPN but didn't see it

[Supreme Olajuwon]

The Cincinnati Bengals are currently defeating the Baltimore Ravens.

[Shadow]

SAY IT LOUD AND SAY IT PROUD!

FUCK THE REDSKINS!

[Triple A]

ugh @ the way Chad Henne's helmet pushes his "brow" down over his eyes. Seems painful.

[redoneja]

Some Bear got ejected for slugging someone? That's the text I got from ESPN but didn't see it


from ESPN.com

CHICAGO -- Chicago Bears defensive tackle Tommie Harris was ejected from Sunday's game against Arizona after just 65 seconds of play for slugging Cardinals offensive tackle Deuce Lutui.

At the end of an Arizona running play, Harris and Lutui ended up on the ground and a replay showed Harris hitting Lutui near the face.

The Bears got a 15-yard unsportsmanlike conduct penalty and Harris got a quick shower after referee Ed Hochuli announced he had slugged Lutui and was ejected

[redoneja]

Love seeing the Bengals dominate the Ravens.

[OssMan]

da rayedskieyinz

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I too enjoy watching the Bengals perform well.

[DrA]

That slug was uncalled for.

[CSL]

Peyton Manning, 40,000yds this decade. Outstanding.

[VonErichLives]

you mean next week? When we destroy your patchwork secondary and paper thin defensive line?

Patchwork secondary and paper thin defensive line? Good to see things don't change and you still have no clue what you're talking about.

That said, the colts are playing better football now and the games in Indy, so while of course I want the pats to win I wouldn't put money on it.

[SammyG]

I hate the Wildcat

[Supreme Olajuwon]

This new referee who's doing the Bengals game is very thorough with his calls. I like it.

[SammyG]

Jesus, Henne just got rocked

[Supreme Olajuwon]

This is the worst game I've ever seen Ed Reed play. Seen at least 5 missed tackles plus a muffed punt

[Droford]

The Colts are losing and the Falcons are blowing a big lead vs the Redskins.

[Droford]

This is the worst game I've ever seen Ed Reed play. Seen at least 5 missed tackles plus a muffed punt

This is the worst game Ive seen the Ravens play in a while, just not Ed Reed.

Though they are getting it rolling now, but its too late methinks.

[Droford]

Ed Reed with the strip on 85.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Oh Chad. That was stupid.

[RP]

Excuse me while i go manuever my balls out of my stomach

[SammyG]

Haha, scary game indeed.

Holy shit @ this TB GB game

[RP]

Indy's defense is amazing. They stopped when they needed stops. They're beat up but keep having guys step up and make plays. Even when Manning has an off game, the defense has his back.

[RP]

This Colts game was shitty. I know, because i watched them pull it out of there asses.

[McLegend]

Yeah with 52 seconds in this Bucs/Packers game. I'm gonna say Aaron Rodgers not all that great.

[redoneja]

BUCS ARE GONNA WIN! Finally!

But the big news IMO is that Aaron Rogers got sacked 6 TIMES. How many is that fir the season now? 35?

[redoneja]

Yeah with 52 seconds in this Bucs/Packers game. I'm gonna say Aaron Rodgers not all that great.

Peyton Manning wouldn't be that great if he couldn't trust his OL for protection.

[McLegend]

Peyton Manning wouldn't be that great if he couldn't trust his OL for protection.

Payton Manning also wouldn't hold onto the ball for 6 seconds.

[redoneja]

I must say, NFL Sunday Ticket is the greatness.

[SammyG]

Yeah it is!

Got LT and Manning going in this game right here on fantasy.

[RP]

Peyton Manning wouldn't be that great if he couldn't trust his OL for protection.

you're fucking retarded

[RP]

Hey redoneja.. go do some research on Mannings MVP season last year. He was playing with 3 rookies on the OL and torches bitch asses.

Fucking clown. Get the fuck out of the fucking NFL thread. You have no fucking clue what you're talking about.

[RP]

Manning won the MVP with the worst rushing attack in the league last year. Teams knew he was passing and they couldnt stop him. So go suck a fat dick redoneja.

[RP]

Today is the best day to watch football ever. Colts v Houston at 1pm, then i get to watch Giants vs Chargers and Saints vs Panthers and then at 8pm its Eagles vs Cowboys. I'm almost out of beer. I have like 3 beers left and i've drunk e11.

[redoneja]

lol RP, I wish I could take you seriously but you're such a joke.

[SammyG]

I have been watching football all day today as well, glorious. Got my fantasy gamecast up on the screen, kickin' back and watchin' this game before my soccer game. Hella homework later though. Oh well, football > anything else.

[redoneja]

Both Chargers/Giants and Panthers/Saints have been really good so far. Really impressed with the way the Panthers played the first half.

[RP]

Atlanta's coach totaly punked Deangelo Hall. It was great.

[ClockShot]

How the hell did the Bengals beat Baltimore?

Tampa Bay winning today probably buys Morris another month at the postseason.

[SammyG]

Cincy is fucking good. I love having their D on Fantasy

[ClockShot]

No shit. Denver's D is good too. But we got steamrolled last week.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

lol @ the Panthers calling time-out in the 3rd quarter on the goal-line only to run a busted play on 1st down.

Now they just settled for a the FG. Unreal

[Innovator]

I wish I could pinpoint then exact moment the Giants stopped being good

[Heros Welcome]

Atlanta's coach totaly punked Deangelo Hall. It was great.

:yes: Mike Smith sticking up for his players! Loved it!

Big win for the dirty birds! Today was a back to basics day. Ryan only threw the ball 25 times completing it 15 times. Turner was the vocal point of the offense and rushed for over 150 again making it back to back weeks. The REAL Michael Turner is finally standing up!

That lose to the Saints angered me very much, but its a lose like that, that can drive the Falcons more with this stretch of games coming up.

[Heros Welcome]

Also I would like to say Fuck You to Meangelo Hall and the $100 Million man Albert Haynesworth!

[Supreme Olajuwon]

How the hell did the Bengals beat Baltimore?

Tampa Bay winning today probably buys Morris another month at the postseason.
How exactly does it shock you that the Bengals, who already beat the Ravens once this year on the road, would win today at home?

[Innovator]

KEVIN BOSS SIGHTING!

[The Gold Standard]

THE BOSS IS IN THE BUILDING

[SammyG]

LT is fucking gay and old. 17 yards. 1 point on fantasy.

[Emperor Smeat]

Must suck to be a Browns fan since last few weeks every time Saints D scores a touchdown, announcers compare it to how bad Browns offense is.

[Innovator]

Great job D

[Innovator]

1st and goal on the 4, holding call, 3 draws. gay.

[Droford]

Intrigue on the upcoming week odds:

Detroit + 10 vs Seattle - I know Detroit is bad, but Seattle is not good enough to be favored by 10 points against anyone.
Kansas City + 6.5 vs Jacksonville - KC coming off the bye and Jacksonville coming off getting rolled over by Tennessee.
San Diego + 4.5 vs NY Football Giants - if you believe the Giants are in a freefall..if the Cardinals could go into NY and beat the Giants I think the Chargers have a shot as well.

Wish I would have gone with those. 2 outta 3 anyway..Detroit almost made it 3/3.

[Gonzo]

*sigh*

Thankfully I know better than to expect that the Giants would win a game when they pick the ball off and return it to the 2 yard line.

[ClockShot]

Giants beat writers are probably gonna put up the headstone in the papers tomorrow.

[Gonzo]

The schedule is hard for the Giants the rest of the way. They may be able to fix issues in their bye week, but either the Eagles or Cowboys are probably going to pull away.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Jesus, Henne just got rocked

http://boston.3432.voxcdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/IMG001971.jpg

[Innovator]

*sigh*

Thankfully I know better than to expect that the Giants would win a game when they pick the ball off and return it to the 2 yard line.
They played for the field goal after the holding call, that was the game right there. You play for the field goal, you'll lose

[SammyG]

K, so I am down 5 points on fantasy. He is done, and I got Miles Austin going against Philly tonight. Think I got it?

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Season is over. They won't recover from that loss.</font>

[OssMan]

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/1613/bobcostas.jpg

i jizz in my pants

[OssMan]

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/5418/tikibarber.jpg

and i jizz in my pants

[redoneja]

K, so I am down 5 points on fantasy. He is done, and I got Miles Austin going against Philly tonight. Think I got it?

Dunno how many receptions or yards Miles Austin needs to get for you to win but he's without a reception so far. Could be a long night for ya.

[Emperor Smeat]

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/1613/bobcostas.jpg

i jizz in my pants

:rofl:

[McLegend]

Excellent coaching this game.

[D Mac]

Stupid Cowfags. :foc:

[Londoner]

Was actually hoping for a philly win, ah well.

[SammyG]

Yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss Miles Austin!

[Emperor Smeat]

Kind of surprising how it seemed like after 1st game of the season, the Cowboys looked like to be in for another bad season but they fixed their problems while the Giants end up looking like a legit title contender to a team with serious issues.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Lost 14 dollars on Centsports thanks to the Eagles losing

[Requiem]

pretty much had a heart attack in my butthole at the end of the Colts game

[DAMN iNATOR]

Wow, the Lions are still so awful. Not that I'm shocked, but even a guy like myself who expects them to lose every week was a believer for a short while yesterday when they built a 17-0 lead in the 1st. Then Stafford goes the rest of the game throwing 5 INT's, all the while Seattle puts up 25 unanswered before Detroit gets a FG to bring it to 25-20, and then the 5th INT, with time winding down in the 4th, cost them any shot they had at winning as it was returned for a TD, making it 32-20 Seattle where the game concluded, Dropping Detroit to 1-7 this season.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Still can't believe yesterday's game. When that botched FG happened in the first my dad said "If they lose, it will be because of that play" and sure enough, the Giants wind up choking and lose by one point. Unreal.</font>

[RP]

Here we go! An entire week of New England nut hugging. " Oh the Patriots are gunna knock the Colts from the unbeaten! ". " New England is on a roll now! Look out Colts!!! ". " Indy has too many injuries!!! ".

This is gunna remind me of... well... it's gunna remind of last week. Just replace Houston with New England.

When we smash the Patriots, it's going to be so poetic.

[Reavant]

How the hell did the Bengals beat Baltimore?



same way they did it the first time

[Triple Naitch]

Q. What do Larry Johnson and Diesel Mac have in common?

A. Both are unemployed in Kansas City. :lol:

[RP]

KC fans are awesome. Johnson was close to becomming the all time leader for rushing yards on KC and the fans made a petition to cut him or trade him or something. And the Cheifs did lol.

[RP]

Good call too. I went to a Colts vs Cheifs game at Arrowhead Stadium like 10 years ago or so when the Cheifs were really good. The best fans ( besides Indy ) i've ever seen. They were nice, but hardcore at the same time. And there homefield advantage in that stadium was amazing. Especially cause the Cheifs were good.

[Reavant]

Lawrence Taylor got arrested last night for a hit and run

[ClockShot]

So let's open up the discussion.

Where does Larry Johnson go now?

[SammyG]

Jail

[RP]

So let's open up the discussion.

Where does Larry Johnson go now?

Raiders

[RP]

Jail

Raiders

same thing

[#1-norm-fan]

I went to a Colts vs Cheifs game at Arrowhead Stadium like 10 years ago or so when the Cheifs were really good. The best fans ( besides Indy ) i've ever seen. They were nice, but hardcore at the same time.

That's is why I hate the majority Eagles fans. Especially the ones who try so hard to convince people how "hardcore" they are because they are dicks basically. I remember someone here one time using the fact that their old stadium had a holding cell in it as a reason why their fans are so "great". They try to related being huge douchebags with being great football fans. I have much more respect for fans that can support their team to death yet still show class. I don't know what it is about one teams fan base that just breeds that sort of people. Or maybe it's the other way around I guess.

[#1-norm-fan]

And even Raiders fans are not nearly as bad. I love in Northern California about 45 minutes from Oakland and we always joke about getting shot if you go to Oakland wearing a Broncos jersey or something but it's more just a knock on Oakland being a "bad area". From everything I've seen, the fans dress up and paint their faces and all but for the most part, I really don't find them to be as much of a group of disrespectful assholes as I think the general consensus is of them.

[Hanso Amore]

AFL Original teams have the best fans across the board.


Minus the faggy dolphin fans

[DaveBrawl]

I will not count Charger fans as the best of anything.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

LET'S GO BRONCOS

[ClockShot]

Wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiild Horses. Couldn't drag me away.

[parkmania]

Mike Wallace! 21-10 BAYBEEEEEE!!!

[parkmania]

Challenging over a couple yards when it's 4th down anyway??? Really???

Oh, and by the way, we cut Berger a couple years ago because he wasn't getting the job done.

[FearedSanctity]

Couple yards? It's like 10, and when our punter is kicking boulders, it matters

[parkmania]

Ok, I did miss how much of a difference it was. But do you really want to use your final challenge on that?

[Triple A]

This announce team is unbearable. Fucking Jaworski insecurely laughing at every single thing that other unfunny loud guy says.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Gruden is absolutely ridiculous, so ridiculous that it's getting funny to me now.

[FearedSanctity]

What else was he going to challenge? The game tying TD catch? Might as well

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

BRETT FAVRE THROWS 5000 PASSES A DAY, I love being associated with that guy

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Ok this video game with the 'til I collapse Eminem song playing looks tight as hell

[FearedSanctity]

Is it possible to cut a player mid-game? Berger has to go

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Ty Law randomly on the Broncos and playing a shitload tonight

[parkmania]

Wow, gotta say I could have easily seen that being reversed into a fumble.

But why were we still charged with a injury timeout when there was a booth review?

[parkmania]

"Dirtiest Player" is still the classiest, even on the road.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Just the way Jon Gruden talks makes me laugh

"I'd like to have SEVEN of those guys"

[parkmania]

I still don't get where that comes from... because a player gives his all on every play and not just when the ball's coming his way does NOT make him dirty.

[Innovator]

dude just got JACKED UP

[parkmania]

1 pick all season for Orton on a Hail Mary, and now 3 tonight!

[parkmania]

Next week we reclaim 1st place in the North!

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Wow, gotta say I could have easily seen that being reversed into a fumble.

But why were we still charged with a injury timeout when there was a booth review?
Booth reviews aren't timeouts. After the booth review is over the game restarts where it left off. Like if the clock was supposed to keep running after the play was over, once the review is done, they start the clock running again.

[parkmania]

OK. I thought I had seen times this season where it was announced that a team wasn't charged because of the review.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Well that's because it probably was a team challenge and not sent down from booth (that only happens in the final 2 minutes of the half or game). If a team loses a challenge they lose one of their time-outs

The Steelers were forced to take one of their time-outs in that situation, since the injury came with under 2 minutes (I think that's the limit) in the game.

[redoneja]

Just saw a poll from ESPN Sportsnation saying that Drew Brees is the MVP of the NFL at the halfway mark. Really surprised by that. I voted for Peyton Manning, who I think is the clear MVP at this point.

[RP]

The Colts put a waiver claim in for someone named Jack Williams who apparently was on the Broncos or something. Anyways, the Lions put one in also and got him.

Fuck, Jack Williams life. lol

[Loose Cannon]

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/uncyclopedia/images/8/81/PWNED!.jpg

[screech]

That's is why I hate the majority Eagles fans. Especially the ones who try so hard to convince people how "hardcore" they are because they are dicks basically. I remember someone here one time using the fact that their old stadium had a holding cell in it as a reason why their fans are so "great". They try to related being huge douchebags with being great football fans. I have much more respect for fans that can support their team to death yet still show class. I don't know what it is about one teams fan base that just breeds that sort of people. Or maybe it's the other way around I guess.

Being from Philly, I can definitely attest to this. Your point, and the fact that this vast majority (not all of them) thinks their team is the best ever (because they only follow their team), makes Eagles fans pretty much intolerable.

But the majority of fans with whom I come in contact aren't necessarily these "hardcore" douchebags. Rather, they are uninformed (by choice) morons who refuse to accept criticism of their team from others.

Great way to describe them: Passionate, fickle and (this majority) uninformed.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Just saw a poll from ESPN Sportsnation saying that Drew Brees is the MVP of the NFL at the halfway mark. Really surprised by that. I voted for Peyton Manning, who I think is the clear MVP at this point.
I don't think it's clear cut at all. I don't even think it's a two person race. Manning and Brees have been great but you've got to include Roethlisberger as well. He's been really good against really good competition.

Favre and Peterson will cancel each other out, as will Palmer and Benson. And Chris Johnson won't get looked at because the Titans stink even though he's averaging almost 7 yards per carry. SEVEN

[Droford]

The Ravens are trying out kickers...Billy Cundiff and Mike Nugent.

Steve Hauschka is terrible. I cant believe they let Stover go for him to play...ugh. Neither Cundiff or Nugent is probably much of an improvement but whatever.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Benson isn't a "sexy" enough pick for MVP. If things continue to roll on as they are now, it's gonna come down to Manning or Brees

[RP]

Thanks for Stover

[Droford]

Its gonna be awkward in a few days when the Ravens and Colts play.

[RP]

Stover has been nothing but money for the Colts

[#1-norm-fan]

I don't think it's clear cut at all. I don't even think it's a two person race. Manning and Brees have been great but you've got to include Roethlisberger as well. He's been really good against really good competition.

I think it's definitely a 2 person race. I think it comes down to wins and the two guys who have yet to lose a game win out.

If I had to pick right now, I'd say Manning over Brees just based on the fact that I think N.O. is more likely to still have a great record right now without Brees. Without Manning, Indy struggles. Hence, I think he's more valuable.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Brandon McGowan will win MVP after he murders both QBs in consecutive weeks

[RP]

Dwight Freeney

[DAMN iNATOR]

The Colts put a waiver claim in for someone named Jack Williams who apparently was on the Broncos or something. Anyways, the Lions put one in also and got him.

Fuck, Jack Williams life. lol

Detroit: Where NFL careers come to die™.

[Heros Welcome]

What do you guys think? Fantasy related...

Do I start Devin Hester this week over Calvin Johnson? I've been starting him in place of Johnson for the injuries, but he's been hot lately, so not sure what to do.

Also who should I pair with Chris Johnson this week? Mendenhall, Stewart, or Moreno?

[Splaya]

You definitely start Hester over Calvin. Lions are going against the vikings.

You also pair Mendenhall with Chris Johnson. Mendenhall had 155 yards against the Broncos Rush D

[Kris P Lettus]

DOME LAND SECURITY (http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d8140a51e/Saints-seal-the-win)

[Heros Welcome]

Thanks for the thoughts Splaya, greatly appreciated.

[Splaya]

No problem man

[SammyG]

Yo, Rams gonna break Brees' leg, no MVP for him.

[Kris P Lettus]

He shouldn't get MVP this year.. Atleast 4 games this year we've won with defense and a good running game..

[Kris P Lettus]

Not to "rehash" the "is Reggie Bush a bust" argument but, Reggie has 4 TD's this season while Mario Williams only has 2 sacks..

Just saying..

[SammyG]

It's easier to get a TD than it is to get a sack...

[Kris P Lettus]

It's easier to get a TD than it is to get a sack...


TD add much more to wins than sacks, unless you are talking multiple sacks in single games, which the Texans aren't getting..

[SammyG]

Well. I know this. What I'm saying is that it's retarded to say a running back having more TD's than a DE has sacks is an important stat. I do get the Bush//Williams thing though, yes.

[Kris P Lettus]

I just get tired of people "hating" on Bush.. He is a dynamic athlete who can RB, SLOT, WR, etc.. He gets bit on play action more than any of our other RB.. Also, this past game, he was actually hitting the holes and punching through.. I dunno, with 2 (actually 3 if you count Lynell Hailton) we have a great running game without him.. 2-3 big plays from him every game make him worth it to me.. Hardly ever get 2-3 "big plays" for Williams..

[Kris P Lettus]

Also, I like Vince Young, but going after Brees was a MUCH better call..

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Umm, Mario Williams has 4.0 sacks this year.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Nobody is hating on Reggie Bush. They're hating on stupid ass Saints fans who think he's Gale Sayers. Accept that he's mediocre and move on. You've got enough good things to focus on. Quit being greedy.

[Kris P Lettus]

He is a weapon and opens up other things for our other weapons..

I am happy with him, but more happy with our Defense, Brees, Meachem, Shockey, Colston, Iron Mike Bell, Pt Cruiser, Lance "Velcro" Moore, and Heath Evan before he got hurt..

p.s. he got two sacks against the Colts?? Cause during the replay of the game earlier on NFL Network, early in the game, the commentators said he had 2 on the year..

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Got 1 vs the Colts

[Kris P Lettus]

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[Droford]

The moral of that video is that Olympic Archery is a complete joke?

Also, I cant wait for them to use the football from that video in real games.

[Reavant]

Ummm compairing reggie bush to to williams or compairing any DE to a RB is absolutly retarded... stop being such a homer

[Kris P Lettus]

Not ever gonna happen, bro..

[Kris P Lettus]

I defended the Saints through some of the worst season in history..

[SammyG]

That sports science video was actually really interesting.

[RP]

Also Mario Williams career has been about 10x better then Reggie Bush

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Eric Mangini says he had no idea Brady Quinn would get a huge bonus if he took 70% of the team's snaps this season.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

[RP]

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[SammyG]

wow

[Miotch]

October Gonzales is fucking hot.

[/obvious]

[Droford]

anyone gonna watch the epic Bears/49ers game?

[Emperor Smeat]

Cutler has been horrible last few games and so far in this game with the INTs

[Droford]

I was getting ready to say something about them digging up the Micro Machines guy to name the Bears last 28 QBs but I can also add Cutler threw another INT.

[Droford]

As many times as Ive seen Pass interference called on the ravens for less contact, that last int should have been called back for Pass Interference..

[Droford]

That had to be one of the worst football games Ive seen in a while.

Cutler now has 17 ints in 9 games. By all rights and respects the 49ers shouldnt have won that game, but they did and they are lucky to be right in the hunt for the NFC West still.

[FearedSanctity]

lol Cutler

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

GET THAT GUY A SUGAR COOKIE

[Emperor Smeat]

I bet somewhere Rex Grossman is smiling knowing that at least he might not be the worst ever Bears QB at the rate Cutler is going. Then again Grossman was horrible on his own with or without the Bears D and running game.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Supreme would you like to revisit your stance on Jay Cutler by any chance

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Not yet, but this season will definitely go down as a disappointment. Mentally he's just not there. And that's problematic because Cutler seems like a guy who let's stuff like this get to him.

I already apologized to Josh McDaniels. Get off my case, Kirk.

[DaveBrawl]

I bet somewhere Rex Grossman is smiling

I know Broncos fans were.

[RP]

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[Loose Cannon]

fucking Bears. they couldn't put 2 more points on the board. ughhhh

[RP]

I have a feeling the world will know about Donald Brown after this week.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Not yet, but this season will definitely go down as a disappointment. Mentally he's just not there. And that's problematic because Cutler seems like a guy who let's stuff like this get to him.

I already apologized to Josh McDaniels. Get off my case, Kirk.

Just wondering

I actually hope you guys win on Sunday, it's good for the AFC North that they're competitive again and it'd be nice if they could break up the Patriots/Colts/Steelers monopoly in the AFC a bit.

Not saying that's gonna happen, obviously.

[#1-norm-fan]

That Bear/49ers game really felt like a pre-season game. Not just because it was strange seeing a Thursday night game already either. Just did not feel like two teams playing to stay alive in the playoff race.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Just wondering

I actually hope you guys win on Sunday, it's good for the AFC North that they're competitive again and it'd be nice if they could break up the Patriots/Colts/Steelers monopoly in the AFC a bit.

Not saying that's gonna happen, obviously.
Yeah I dunno how it's gonna shake down. Pittsburgh wasn't that impressive in the first few weeks of the season but they are rolling now. As much as I'll be rooting for it to happen, I'm not sure the Bengals are going to be able to beat them at home. This is a bigger game for the Steelers though because they have to win this to even the tiebreaker. Even if the Bengals lose, they'd still be 4-1 in the division with Cleveland left to play. Pittsburgh still has Baltimore twice so who knows how that will end up.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Chad Johnson jokingly tried to give a ref $1 as a bribe during the Ravens game. He's getting fined $20,000 for it. LOL

[Requiem]

I have a feeling the world will know about Donald Brown after this week.

Definitely hope so. I like the fact that they rested him up for this coming game. Think he's definitely gonna make some heads turn after he gets some more pro experience.

[Droford]

Chad Johnson jokingly tried to give a ref $1 as a bribe during the Ravens game. He's getting fined $20,000 for it. LOL
I said somewhere else immediately when I saw him do it that he should be fined. I dont think the NFL is in any position as of late to let that slide given all the problems with officiating in other sports, much less its own.

Its rather dumb however that he got fined more than everyone involved in that ATL/WAS scrum, but I guess that at least shows they wont tolerate it.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Pretty sure I told you guys to wait and see with this McDaniels guy in Denver

[Kris P Lettus]

He's still got creepy eyes..

[RP]

You know who might have a monster game for Indy against the Pats? Austin Collie. Everything i've read this week makes me believe that New England's absolute first priority seems to be shutting Dallas Clark down. This could be a huge mistake if they go overboard with there coverage on Clark.

Prediction : I predict you're gunna see atleast one play where Manning goes play action, pump fakes to Clark and his Collie wide open down the middle for a huge play. And i wouldnt be suprised to see it on the first series for the Colts.

This game inparticular reminds me of the Monday night game Indy had against Miami this year. First play of that game

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[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I predict you'll watch the game alone with a bunch of beers then post a bunch of dumb shit after the game, especially if the Colts win. That's what I predict

[Droford]

If the Colts win tomorrow, I predict the Ravens will beat them next week in Baltimore. But if the Colts lose theres no way I see them losing 2 in a row.

[RP]

I predict you'll watch the game alone with a bunch of beers then post a bunch of dumb shit after the game, especially if the Colts win. That's what I predict

What does watching the game alone with beers have to do anything?

I swear you have the most autistic insults ever.

[FearedSanctity]

Seriously, what is with the Bengals inability to hold for a damn FG?

[D Mac]

Can the Rams hand Saints their first loss? Getting close.

[D Mac]

Saints hold on. 9-0

[FearedSanctity]

Chris Simms can fuck right off

[Supreme Olajuwon]

WOOOOOOOO

[D Mac]

Haha Cowfags come away with nothing.