NFL 2009 Season Thread

[Shadow]

After the Superbowl I'm predicting.

Madden will probably keep talking about Farve until Farve is dead.

[Skippord]

where will Madden be doing this?

[James Steele]

where will Madden be doing this?

Favre Mode in Madden NFL '11

[Reavant]

LOL REAVANT REMEMBER THAT TIME YOU SAID YOU WERE GONNA TALK SO MUCH SHIT WHEN THE JETS BEAT THE COLTS? LOL WHAT HAPPENED THERE ARE YOU STILL GONNA TALK SHIT EVEN THOUGH THE COLTS GOT 24 UNANSWERED POINTS AND CAME BACK TO BEAT THE JETS?

Nah but seriously. Caps lock off for a second here so I can let you know how I really feel.

Suck it.

yes you guys came back from behind on a team that shouldnt have been in the playoffs had you actually finished out the season :y: have fun playing a real team in two weeks

[Supreme Olajuwon]

sour grapes

[SammyG]

The Pro bowl before the Superbowl is the dumbest thing ever. Anyway. Great games today/night. Don't think there will be too much drama with Favre. I'm pretty sure he's just gonna come back.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

David Garrard is going to the Pro Bowl

[Supreme Olajuwon]

so is Kyle Vanden Bosch and his 3 sacks

[Kris P Lettus]

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[Kris P Lettus]

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[OssMan]

Yeah the Saints aren't even gonna win the Super Bowl so shut the fuck up

[OssMan]

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Man this is so symbolic of the uplifting of New Orleans the city really needed this win because of the hurricane 6 years ago raise our fists in unity Geaux Saints

[OssMan]

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[Kris P Lettus]

Home team, not home boy..

[RP]

The Saints were given that game. The Vikings turn the ball over like 25 times. The Colts wont turn it over at all. Freeney is gunna put another mark on Drew Brees face.

[Kris P Lettus]

Given the game by forcing turnovers??

Yeah, that works..

[OssMan]

If by forcing turnovers you mean having the Vikings fumble every 3 plays then yeah

[RP]

LOL forced turnovers??? The Vikings practically dropped the ball untouched like 5 times.

[Kris P Lettus]

The first fumble, at the end of the first half was a botched handoff between Favre and AP.. The other FIVE were strips by our Defense..

If you are gonna argue something, have some sort of factual evidence, to back up your claims..

[RP]

YOU'RE ARE WRONG YOU FAT JEW! WHERE IS YOUR FACTUAL EVIDENCE!

[Kris P Lettus]

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d815f3f2b/NFL-GameDay-Vikings-vs-Saints-highlights

[CSL]

Vikings threw the game away, isn't really any debating in that

[Team Sheep]

No game with a turnover ratio of 5:1 should go to overtime really.

[Kris P Lettus]

As I've done the whole season, I will take the high road.. I much prefer everyone being haters than jumping on the bandwagon..

Two weeks till destiny..

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[Big Fat Mike]

I changed my mind. I am now rooting for a freak hurricane to wipe out Miami completley so I don't have to listen to RP or Krispy

[Team Sheep]

Full credit to the Saints, they're there and that's all that matters. I'll admit I thought they'd cooled right off and would be fortunate to get one play off win. They're going to have to work their asses off the next two weeks to bring something special to Miami based on that performance though, I can't see the Colts being very worried at all right now.

[Kris P Lettus]

Colts are only favored by 3.5..

[McLegend]

That's kind of high actually.

I thought it would be closer.

[Requiem]

yes you guys came back from behind on a team that shouldnt have been in the playoffs had you actually finished out the season :y: have fun playing a real team in two weeks

LOL YEAH TRY AND ACT LIKE IT'S NO BIG DEAL NOW, BUT IT DOESN'T CHANGE ANYTHING YOU SAID YOU TOOL. DOESN'T MEAN SHITTTTTTT BECAUSE THE COLTS ARE IN THE SUPER BOWL AND NOT WHATEVER SHITTY TEAM YOU CHEER FOR. LOLOLOL GOD I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU ACTUALLY THOUGHT THE JETS WERE GOING TO WIN REAVANT. DO YOU EVEN KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT FOOTBALL? GOD, THIS GUY REQUIEM DOESN'T KNOW SHIT BUT HIS FAVORITE TEAM JUST MADE A FOOL OUT OF YOU AND ALL YOUR SUPPOSED SHIT TALKING YOU WERE GOING TO DO.

Seriously though. The Colts beat plenty of good teams along the way, and don't have to prove anything at this point. They've shown that resting their starters helped, because they have been playing superb football in the playoffs. They are in the Super Bowl, and there isn't shit you can say about it, because they wouldn't have gotten here had other teams just played better.

If it was the first game, maybe your words would have some semblance of truth, but the Jets beat two teams in the playoffs to get to this point. I don't know if you understand how football works Reavant, but that means they were the better team in those games. If the Bengals or Chargers had played better, we could have played them. But they lost. So get over it.

And suck it.

THE COLTS ARE GOING TO THE FUCKING SUPER BOWL! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO SUCK IT COLTS HATERS!

[BCWWF]

I don't know, one day later, I think the Colts could really hurt the Saints in the Super Bowl. The fact that the Vikings forced overtime in a game in which they lost five turnovers is pretty telling. I'm not as familiar with the Colts defense, but the Vikings practically shut the Saints down the entire second half yesterday. Anything can happen, by my early prediction is:
Colts 70 - 30 Saints (percentage)

A few other notes:
1. In regards to two No. 1 seeds: It's fine to have the underdogs every once in a while, but I'd rather see the championship game be the best teams more often than not. I mean, it wasn't cool or exciting last year to see the Cardinals in the Super Bowl. They weren't that good, and it's not like they captivated the nation in any way (a la George Mason upsetting traditional powerhouses in NCAA Tournament)

2. Having the Pro Bowl after the Super Bowl is the dumbest thing ever, SammyG. I'm shocked they didn't think of this sooner. There is no NFL happenings going on next week, yet in the week before the Super Bowl there is still attention. The Pro Bowl is so stupid anyway, but you might as well put it at a time when people are still interested in football.

[BCWWF]

Offing myself after reading Requiem's post.

[Team Sheep]

1. In regards to two No. 1 seeds: It's fine to have the underdogs every once in a while, but I'd rather see the championship game be the best teams more often than not. I mean, it wasn't cool or exciting last year to see the Cardinals in the Super Bowl. They weren't that good, and it's not like they captivated the nation in any way (a la George Mason upsetting traditional powerhouses in NCAA Tournament)



That's what I don't get. How can you say the Cardinals weren't that good? How can you argue with winning your division, winning 3 play off games, and being a couple of minutes away from winning the whole thing? They were a big surprise granted, but everyone knows the score. If the best team was the team that's #1 at the end of December then we woudn't bother with play offs or a Super Bowl.

[CSL]

LOL YEAH TRY AND ACT LIKE IT'S NO BIG DEAL NOW, BUT IT DOESN'T CHANGE ANYTHING YOU SAID YOU TOOL. DOESN'T MEAN SHITTTTTTT BECAUSE THE COLTS ARE IN THE SUPER BOWL AND NOT WHATEVER SHITTY TEAM YOU CHEER FOR. LOLOLOL GOD I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU ACTUALLY THOUGHT THE JETS WERE GOING TO WIN REAVANT. DO YOU EVEN KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT FOOTBALL? GOD, THIS GUY REQUIEM DOESN'T KNOW SHIT BUT HIS FAVORITE TEAM JUST MADE A FOOL OUT OF YOU AND ALL YOUR SUPPOSED SHIT TALKING YOU WERE GOING TO DO.

Seriously though. The Colts beat plenty of good teams along the way, and don't have to prove anything at this point. They've shown that resting their starters helped, because they have been playing superb football in the playoffs. They are in the Super Bowl, and there isn't shit you can say about it, because they wouldn't have gotten here had other teams just played better.

If it was the first game, maybe your words would have some semblance of truth, but the Jets beat two teams in the playoffs to get to this point. I don't know if you understand how football works Reavant, but that means they were the better team in those games. If the Bengals or Chargers had played better, we could have played them. But they lost. So get over it.

And suck it.

THE COLTS ARE GOING TO THE FUCKING SUPER BOWL! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO SUCK IT COLTS HATERS!

Haven't you been a Colts fan for about 8 minutes?

[Requiem]

Have been a Colts fan since before the pre-season started, and have never and will never be a fan of another team besides the Colts. This has been covered multiple times in this thread already.

[McLegend]

Front Runner

[Requiem]

Also, most of what I said was spurred by the fact that Reavant pointed out how much shit he was going to talk when the Jets beat the Colts in the playoffs. Hence singling him out.

Don't see anywhere where I told someone named CSL to suck it.

[RoXer]

Last year's Super Bowl was easily one of the top 5 Super Bowls of all time.

[RoXer]

Aren't you some kind of sports journalist?

[BCWWF]

Last year's Super Bowl was exciting, but the Cardinals were the sixth seed, if I recall. It's not like they had some underdog story where they were the little guys who beat the legends. They were a team that stumbled into the playoffs out of the weakest division in the NFC and then got hot.

Obviously it's all a matter of personal opinion, but the reason last night's game was exciting is because it was the bona-fide two best teams in the NFC who finally got to play each other. A Vikings-Cardinals game last night would have been stupid.

[Team Sheep]

4th seed.

[RoXer]

4th seed but okay.

I would have preferred a Cards/Vikings game.


Sun 12/6 Minnesota Vikings (10-1) W 30 - 17

[BCWWF]

You're from Arizona.

[Big Fat Mike]

Roxer will be watching the big game from his pre-teen lover's house.

[Kris P Lettus]

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[RoXer]

You're from Arizona.

And you're from Minnesota.

Which would explain why you wouldn't want that match up.

Last night's game was great but saying the Cardinals aren't exciting or wouldn't have been fun is kinda dumb.

[RoXer]

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Good hit

[Miotch]

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[BCWWF]

And you're from Minnesota.

Which would explain why you wouldn't want that match up.

Last night's game was great but saying the Cardinals aren't exciting or wouldn't have been fun is kinda dumb.

No it isn't. The Vikings and the Saints were the two standout teams in the NFC this season and they hadn't played yet. It's ridiculous to imply that there would be as much national attention or anticipation for the Cardinals. There's no bias involved.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Nah, media would've eaten up Favre vs. Warner.

[BCWWF]

Not more than the clear top two teams in the NFC finally meeting in the NFC Championship.

I don't know how anybody could legitimately argue that there would have been more anticipation for a Vikings-Cardinals rematch than there would have been for last night's game.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Probably, but it still would be NFC storyline #2

[BCWWF]

What does that even mean, NFC storyline No. 2?

[Supreme Olajuwon]

If the Saints/Vikings were the top NFC storyline, then the 2nd best possible storyline would've been Favre vs. Warner.

[BCWWF]

Or Favre vs Green Bay...

[BCWWF]

Even the Cowboys reaching the NFC Championship alone would have been a bigger storyline than Kurt Warner. Come on.

[Reavant]

LOL YEAH TRY AND ACT LIKE IT'S NO BIG DEAL NOW, BUT IT DOESN'T CHANGE ANYTHING YOU SAID YOU TOOL. DOESN'T MEAN SHITTTTTTT BECAUSE THE COLTS ARE IN THE SUPER BOWL AND NOT WHATEVER SHITTY TEAM YOU CHEER FOR. LOLOLOL GOD I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU ACTUALLY THOUGHT THE JETS WERE GOING TO WIN REAVANT. DO YOU EVEN KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT FOOTBALL? GOD, THIS GUY REQUIEM DOESN'T KNOW SHIT BUT HIS FAVORITE TEAM JUST MADE A FOOL OUT OF YOU AND ALL YOUR SUPPOSED SHIT TALKING YOU WERE GOING TO DO.

Seriously though. The Colts beat plenty of good teams along the way, and don't have to prove anything at this point. They've shown that resting their starters helped, because they have been playing superb football in the playoffs. They are in the Super Bowl, and there isn't shit you can say about it, because they wouldn't have gotten here had other teams just played better.

If it was the first game, maybe your words would have some semblance of truth, but the Jets beat two teams in the playoffs to get to this point. I don't know if you understand how football works Reavant, but that means they were the better team in those games. If the Bengals or Chargers had played better, we could have played them. But they lost. So get over it.

And suck it.

THE COLTS ARE GOING TO THE FUCKING SUPER BOWL! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO SUCK IT COLTS HATERS!

I actually do like the colts tbh... but is funny how i can cause you to write a3-4 paragraph rant about it... and i said id talk shit if the jets won, never did i say they WOULD win but you might have had a colts player's testicles in your eyes while trying to read the post sooooooo that might be your problem.

[Reavant]

Also, most of what I said was spurred by the fact that Reavant pointed out how much shit he was going to talk when the Jets beat the Colts in the playoffs. Hence singling him out.

Don't see anywhere where I told someone named CSL to suck it.

again i said IF... i was being a gentleman and warning you so you could tuck your tail between you legs and never come in the thread again like im sure you would have... then you would be a fan of whatever new team is supposed to be good next year

[Reavant]

just a fair warning... im going to rub it in so incredibly hard if the jets beat the colts especially considering theyre in this position because the colts "let" them win week 16

[Reavant]

oh and the shitty team i root for torched the team you root for this season.... JUST SAYING

[Miotch]

Hey Reavant your team lost. Shut up.

[RoXer]

I don't know how anybody could legitimately argue that there would have been more anticipation for a Vikings-Cardinals rematch than there would have been for last night's game.

Last night's game was a great one and yes, it was great to see those two teams play each other. I don't think I claimed a Cards/Vikes matchup would have generated more "buzz". My beef is when you say

it wasn't cool or exciting last year to see the Cardinals in the Super Bowl. They weren't that good

when they were in one of the greatest Super Bowls of all time with 2 Pro Bowl WRs and a Hall of Fame QB.

They've beaten all the teams in this year's NFC Playoffs. Dallas and Philadelphia last year. Green Bay and Minnesota this year.

But not New Orleans. :shifty::(

[screech]

Last year's Super Bowl was easily one of the top 5 Super Bowls of all time.

...are you serious? The game overall was not that great. The fourth quarter was, but the game? Come on now.

[Requiem]

God you're an idiot Reavant. There was nothing gentlemanly about your comment. It was smug, and you and I both know you would have 'talked mad shit' had the Jets won. Well they didn't, so yeah I'm going to type 'multiple paragraphs' (that is a laughable and retarded comment in itself on your part.. HEY LOOK, I MADE YOU RESPOND FOUR TIMES TO MY POST.. OMG I MUST HAVE GOTTEN UNDER YOUR SKIN) and I am going to do just as much 'rubbing it in' due to the fact that you said that in the first place. It's give and take.. I'm going to give you shit, and you're going to take it.

Oh, and the shitty team you root for got stomped when it mattered. If the Jets were capable of beating the Colts (the entire Colts), it would have happened. It didn't though. Therefore, the incredible team I root for, beat the shitty team you root for, and is now going to the Super Bowl because of it. There is absolutely nothing you can say to redeem yourself right now.

[Kris P Lettus]

Req, did you just start liking football this season??

[BCWWF]

Just heard on the news last night that the Vikings-Saints game was the highest watched TV show other than the Super Bowl since the last episode of Seinfeld in 1998. Pretty sure Favre vs Packers was the highest rated Monday Night Football game ever and Favre at Packers was the highest rated Sunday afternoon game, too.

[Requiem]

Req, did you just start liking football this season??

Yes. It has been discussed several times already, but since you have not been here actively, I don't have a problem explaining it again.

I didn't used to like sports at all. In fact, I disliked them. After last season's Super Bowl though, football became interesting to me. Spent the off-season soaking in as much football as I could (NFL, not really 'big' on college football, but I root for Mizzou if they're playing) Decided I liked the Colts and wanted to root for them, because I liked their players and the team's style.

And now, I will forever be a fan.

[Gonzo]

Just heard on the news last night that the Vikings-Saints game was the highest watched TV show other than the Super Bowl since the last episode of Seinfeld in 1998. Pretty sure Favre vs Packers was the highest rated Monday Night Football game ever and Favre at Packers was the highest rated Sunday afternoon game, too.

Yeah, football is arguably America's favorite sport. The draw for these games is at least three times that of MLB and NBA playoff series. I guess you could argue 1 game versus 5 or 7 but still.

[Miotch]

God you're an idiot Reavant. There was nothing gentlemanly about your comment. It was smug, and you and I both know you would have 'talked mad shit' had the Jets won. Well they didn't, so yeah I'm going to type 'multiple paragraphs' (that is a laughable and retarded comment in itself on your part.. HEY LOOK, I MADE YOU RESPOND FOUR TIMES TO MY POST.. OMG I MUST HAVE GOTTEN UNDER YOUR SKIN) and I am going to do just as much 'rubbing it in' due to the fact that you said that in the first place. It's give and take.. I'm going to give you shit, and you're going to take it.

Oh, and the shitty team you root for got stomped when it mattered. If the Jets were capable of beating the Colts (the entire Colts), it would have happened. It didn't though. Therefore, the incredible team I root for, beat the shitty team you root for, and is now going to the Super Bowl because of it. There is absolutely nothing you can say to redeem yourself right now.

I just like the fact that Reavant told me to shut up because my team lost during my conversation with Krispy in Casual, and then I come in here and see this.

[McLegend]

Yeah, football is arguably America's favorite sport. The draw for these games is at least three times that of MLB and NBA playoff series. I guess you could argue 1 game versus 5 or 7 but still.

It also says people care about Brett Favre.

[BCWWF]

The NFL is without a doubt the most successful sports league in the United States by far. And that Brett Favre had that sort of impact on ratings is kind of incredible, especially after all of the so-called fatigue people had over coverage of him.

[DaveWadding]

4th seed but okay.

I would have preferred a Cards/Vikings game.


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[Gonzo]

The difference between the two games last night was about 4 million viewers. The NFC game was also the prime time spot. So I think yeah, maybe you can attribute a couple million viewers to Favre, but in general, the NFL is just the most attractive sport to fans. I think that football has the best appeal to the casual sports fan. I know I've never personally gotten together with friends for a game of any other sport other than football. Maybe that's my personal experience though. In my area of New York, other than Yankee baseball there really isn't a huge sports fandom for teams other than the Giants or Jets.

[Loose Cannon]

well the Knicks haven't been watchable since Patrick Ewing days

[Gonzo]

I don't think NBA basketball has too big a following here anyways. I think people are more apt to follow Siena than the Knicks.

[Loose Cannon]

oh I didn't see you put your area. I am assuming you live upstate? Yea, you're right then.

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What year was that from, Wadding? And also, correct me if I'm wrong, but it looked as if only one of that guy's feet hit the ground inside the end zone. By the time he had fallen out of bounds he hadn't touched both feet down inside the end zone, but it was 2003, before the advent of instant replay, I believe, and anyway, I believe the forceout rule was still in tact at that point (if you got one foot down in bounds, and the other would have landed in bounds had you not been shoved out of bounds by the defense, you were technically declared to still be in bounds)...it's just funny, how just shortly after that game (and probably because of that very play) they did away with that rule...

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Nah they didn't change the rule till like 4 years later.

[Reavant]

Hey Reavant your team lost. Shut up.

no they beat the colts 30-7 this year

[Reavant]

God you're an idiot Reavant. There was nothing gentlemanly about your comment. It was smug, and you and I both know you would have 'talked mad shit' had the Jets won. Well they didn't, so yeah I'm going to type 'multiple paragraphs' (that is a laughable and retarded comment in itself on your part.. HEY LOOK, I MADE YOU RESPOND FOUR TIMES TO MY POST.. OMG I MUST HAVE GOTTEN UNDER YOUR SKIN) and I am going to do just as much 'rubbing it in' due to the fact that you said that in the first place. It's give and take.. I'm going to give you shit, and you're going to take it.

Oh, and the shitty team you root for got stomped when it mattered. If the Jets were capable of beating the Colts (the entire Colts), it would have happened. It didn't though. Therefore, the incredible team I root for, beat the shitty team you root for, and is now going to the Super Bowl because of it. There is absolutely nothing you can say to redeem yourself right now.
whos the idiot? im a bills fan and everyone knows that... i hate the jets because of this and was pissed that they were in the playoffs but since they got to the point where they were playing the colts and you are a typical front runner fan, i wanted them to win this game.

[FearedSanctity]

Potential OC candidates for the Bears keep flaking on interviews because they don't wanna work with Cuntler.

Hue Jackson chose the Raiders over the Bears.

[Reavant]

the bears really fucked themselves

[RoXer]

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[Miotch]

no they beat the colts 30-7 this year
They beat the Colts practice squad 30-7. Then they lost when it mattered.

[Requiem]

^Exactly. Don't know how you could even try to compare a season game to the AFC championship game Reavant. Are you really that desperate to try and belittle my favorite team? :roll: It's not working. It's kind of funny though. :lol::rofl::lol:

I mean.. I get that you're trying to 'troll' by bringing up that old argument from pages back. But come on.. it's not in the least bit insulting. You're trying to compare a season win to the game that determines who goes to the SUPER BOWL. No comparison at all, and I guarantee the Jets aren't saying "YEAH YOU MAY HAVE GOTTEN TO THE SUPER BOWL BUT WE BEAT YOU IN WEEK 15". Why? Because it doesn't matter.

It's ok Reavant. Hold onto your empty victory, since it seems to be the only thing getting you by.

[Reavant]

My team beat your team

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Good god, are you 6?

[Reavant]

supreme... your killing it right now. had you not done that we would have gotten to see a six paragraph rant on my iniocracy and the greatness of the colts

[Team Sheep]

The Buffalo Bills defeated the Indianapolis Colts this season.

[Reavant]

They beat the Colts practice squad 30-7. Then they lost when it mattered.

But the colts are so good as a team that it shouldnt have mattered. aaaaaand seeing as how they only played the colts once this season, they actually won when it mattered.

[Kris P Lettus]

Count
On
Losing
The
Superbowl

[Droford]

The Colts will win since they beat the Ravens on their way to the SB in Miami just like they did when they beat the Bears a couple years ago. Not that I want this to happen..

[Heros Welcome]

Not if the Saints let up 475 yards of total offense to them like they did the Viks.

[Kris P Lettus]

With 5 takeways, total yardage doesn't matter..

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Potential OC candidates for the Bears keep flaking on interviews because they don't wanna work with Cuntler.

Hue Jackson chose the Raiders over the Bears.

They also know Lovie is a dead man walking so don't want a job that will probably last a year at best.

[Emperor Smeat]

The Colts will win since they beat the Ravens on their way to the SB in Miami just like they did when they beat the Bears a couple years ago. Not that I want this to happen..

Bears also had to deal with the fact their QB was Rex Grossman who owned the record for most positive QB rating and negative QB rating games in the same season. That Superbowl was also pretty competitive until Grossman started messing up late 3rd/early 4th quarter.

Although seeing Hester take back 1st kick off for the touchdown was amazing in how Colts were afraid to kick to him again for rest of the game and how it proved he was the best returner in the NFL.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Count
On
Losing
The
Superbowl

lol really? come on man

[Big Fat Mike]

COME ON MAN

[SammyG]

awful, Krispy. Also, the Rams will win the NFC West in the next 10 years

[Reavant]

awful, Krispy. Also, the Rams will win the NFC West in the next 10 years

given the parity in the nfl, you could say that about any team in their respective division

[Emperor Smeat]

including the Lions?

[Reavant]

yes... they were close like 3 years ago

[Kris P Lettus]

lol really? come on man

It was a forwarded text message..

[Big Fat Mike]

It was a forwarded text message..
YOU'RE a forwarded text message

[SammyG]

lol @ tension between Saints/Colts and the NFL because they don't wanna send their players to the pro bowl

[OssMan]

It was obvious this was gonna happen as soon as they announced the pro bowl would be before the Super Bowl.

[Innovator]

I thought it was assumed this would happen

[Nark Order]

lol @ tension between Saints/Colts and the NFL because they don't wanna send their players to the pro bowl

Maybe they'll let Rivers start now.

[Big Fat Mike]

Rivers will be the only QB in the history of the Pro Bowl to throw 6 int's/

[McLegend]

I thought Rivers all ready turned it down?

[Droford]

The Ravens might give Jim Zorn a job as QB Coach.

lol

[Shadow]

Why laughing? He's pretty good in that role. It's just head coaching is where he blows.

Hardcore.

[Hanso Amore]

So Steven Jackson beat up his pregnant girlfriend.


Classy

[Nark Order]

LOL. Nate Kaeding is kicking in the Pro Bowl. Perfect.

[Droford]

Why laughing? He's pretty good in that role. It's just head coaching is where he blows.

Hardcore.

Flacco, while healthy and even with terrible receivers was still a much better QB than Jason Campbell.

[Reavant]

right so whats your point?

[Droford]

Don't want to see Flacco regress as a QB, especially next year with better wrs (I hope). I dont think Zorn is the guy.

[SammyG]

So Steven Jackson beat up his pregnant girlfriend.


Classy
Gotta let his frustration out somewhere.

[RP]

lol

[RP]

Don't want to see Flacco regress as a QB, especially next year with better wrs (I hope). I dont think Zorn is the guy.

Flacco sucks . Has he even improved?

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

lol @ tension between Saints/Colts and the NFL because they don't wanna send their players to the pro bowlUh what? When they moved the Pro Bowl up to the week before the Super Bowl the NFL explained that Pro Bowlers who are playing in the Super Bowl would be replaced.

[RP]

They're making them go if they want to collect the paychecks i guess.

[FearedSanctity]

Don't want to see Flacco regress as a QB, especially next year with better wrs (I hope). I dont think Zorn is the guy.

Do you really think Zorn has worked with just Campbell?

Professional assistant coaching career (1997-2007)

Zorn moved up to the pro coaching ranks in 1997. Zorn joined the Seattle Seahawks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seattle_Seahawks) as quarterbacks coach after serving in the same capacity with the Detroit Lions (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detroit_Lions) (1998-2000). He was instrumental in the development of rookie quarterback Charlie Batch (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Batch) in 1998<sup id="cite_ref-Washington_Redskins_bio_2-1" class="reference">[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Zorn#cite_note-Washington_Redskins_bio-2)</sup>. Batch’s 88.3 passer rating that season ranks as the fourth-highest rookie mark in NFL history. During his time in Seattle, Zorn worked with Seahawks Head Coach Mike Holmgren (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Holmgren) and Offensive Coordinator Gil Haskell (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gil_Haskell) in implementing the team’s offense while also furthering the development of the team’s quarterbacks<sup id="cite_ref-Washington_Redskins_bio_2-2" class="reference">[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Zorn#cite_note-Washington_Redskins_bio-2)</sup>. In 2003, Zorn tutored Matt Hasselbeck (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Hasselbeck) who set a franchise record with 3,841 passing yards in. Hasselbeck has become the franchise’s most-efficient passer (85.1 rating) while joining Zorn as the only Seahawks’ quarterback to pass for 3,000-plus yards in three consecutive seasons<sup id="cite_ref-Washington_Redskins_bio_2-3" class="reference">[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Zorn#cite_note-Washington_Redskins_bio-2)</sup>.. In 2007 under Zorn, Hasselbeck set Seattle single-season marks for attempts (562), completions (352) and yards (3,966). He also threw for a career-high 28 touchdowns en route to his third Pro Bowl (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pro_Bowl) selection<sup id="cite_ref-Washington_Redskins_bio_2-4" class="reference">[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Zorn#cite_note-Washington_Redskins_bio-2)</sup>.

[RP]

“Here’s the deal. When you put too much of that type of worry on a warrior’s mind, he doesn’t play all out. If it happens, it happens. And the only thing you’d like for me to say is that if it happens you hope he doesn’t get back up and play again.”

Here's the deal Gregg Williams. Your defense wont even sniff Peyton Mannings jock. And you'll be calling him your daddy when the game is over.

[Hanso Amore]

Gregg Williams guzzles cum

[SammyG]

:( I love Kurt Warner. Great man, great QB. He is awesome. Hall of famer

[DaveBrawl]

Same here Sammy.

[SammyG]

This is sad.

[SammyG]

What an incredible speech so far.

[Miotch]

With 5 takeways, total yardage doesn't matter..
Ahahaha, you're ridiculous.

[DaveBrawl]

I'll have to catch the replay later, but Kurt has got to be my favorite player in the league. Such a great story, such a great guy and so much fun to watch on the field. My dad's always been a Ram's fan since he was young and seeing as Warner was such a big part of making them so good and Super Bowl champs he will always hold a special place to me and dad.

He was one of the parts of the season that kept me looking forward to the next game even as the Broncos have been mediocre at best the last few years. Even if they lost I could generally look and say hey at least Warner did good today (it helped he was always my fantasy qb in addition). So I'm definately gonna miss him.

[parkmania]

Something that's been bothering me all week, I just haven't thought to post about it:

In the Vikings/Saints game, around the 2-minute warning in the first half. Saints punt, Vikings call for fair catch but muffs it. He gets the ball back under control and takes a knee. Saints defender comes in and lays him out, receiving a personal foul penalty.

Here's my issue: As soon as the returner doesn't make the clean catch, the ball is live, right? That would mean the fair catch is off, making the guy picking up the ball fair game, or at least I thought.

Why was the penalty still enforced? Am I wrong somewhere?

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Muffed punts can't be advanced so once possession is established the play is dead.

[Miotch]

Plus he was on one knee with control of the ball.

[parkmania]

Plus he was on one knee with control of the ball.

Unless you're the QB I was always under the impression that taking a knee doesn't mean jack.

[OssMan]

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/6904/riversavatar.jpg

[Miotch]

Unless you're the QB I was always under the impression that taking a knee doesn't mean jack.
Taking a knee is intentionally downing yourself, no matter what position you play.

[Droford]

Flacco sucks . Has he even improved?
Statistically he had a better year than 08 in almost every category despite having crappy receivers, and set two franchise records for comp % and QB rating which isn't too hard considering the best QB the Ravens ever had was probably Vinny Testeverde, but still..

08/09
Yards 2,971/3,613
TD 14/21
INT 12/12
QB Rating 80.3/88.9
% 60/63.1
Fumbles 11/8

The only two places he regressed were in rushing (though he was troubled with numerous ailments to his leg, feet and hip the 2nd half of the season) and sacks (took 4 more sacks 36 to 32) but for less total yards lost (276 to 218)

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>LOL Bryant McKinnie got cut from the NFC Pro Bowl team</font>

[McLegend]

Why is the music in Dolphin Stadium always so loud? It's like that for Marlins games to.

[OssMan]

what channel is this shit on

[McLegend]

ESPN

[Team Sheep]

Nobody's tackling :(

[Team Sheep]

I remember why I never bothered watching this in the past. I'm going to bed.

[McLegend]

I like Vince Young, but man he is a terrible QB for a pro bowl game.

[McLegend]

But then again Donovan McNabb might not be either.

[McLegend]

Man Tony Romo throws the ball better then McNabb does now :'(

[Team Sheep]

Just got tickets for 49ers/Broncos. Hopefully both will be very competitive in their divisions next year.

[RP]

this game just completley changed

Freeney has a torn ligament in his ankle.

But this could be Raheem Brocks coming out party.

[Big Fat Mike]

Or it could be a 31-24 Saints victory.

[Big Fat Mike]

Or the stadium could come crashing down on everyone, killing all parties involved.

Or Dan Marino could set up shop in the rafters and start picking people off with a .50 cal rifle.

The possibilities are endless

[Reavant]

ray finkle

[Jeritron]

the laces were in!

[RoXer]

In your Indianapolis slums
You look in the dustbin for something to eat
You find a dead rat and you think it's a treat
In your Indianapolis slums

[SammyG]

Uh did anyone just watch this ESPN shit? Comparing the 2 QBs' jaw lines, noses and eyes, and predicting that the Colts will win because Peyton Manning has a bigger jaw than Brees, therefore he has more testosterone so he will win.

[DaveBrawl]

This 2 week wait must be killing them if they've dropped down to that . You'd think they may of actually taken the time to cover the NHL a little more, but I guess jawlines works better.

[RP]

Uh did anyone just watch this ESPN shit? Comparing the 2 QBs' jaw lines, noses and eyes, and predicting that the Colts will win because Peyton Manning has a bigger jaw than Brees, therefore he has more testosterone so he will win.


i saw it. Probably the most horrible thing i've ever seen. And honestly, the face they were using looked like Philip Rivers.

[Droford]

This 2 week wait must be killing them if they've dropped down to that . You'd think they may of actually taken the time to cover the NHL a little more, but I guess jawlines works better.

Midseason hockey coverage on ESPN? HAHA

[parkmania]

This 2 week wait must be killing them if they've dropped down to that . You'd think they may of actually taken the time to cover the NHL a little more, but I guess jawlines works better.

If they (or ABC) don't broadcast it, it doesn't exist.

[DaveBrawl]

Midseason hockey coverage on ESPN? HAHA

Yeah I know it's a dream.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

That's only when Buccigross is lead anchor.

[OssMan]

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/7143/27648321.jpg

[James Steele]

:lol:

WTF was that?

[Big Fat Mike]

Breaking News: Dwight Freeney has told reporters that his ankle is no longer an ankle, but instead an elbow. When asked how this would affect his status for Sunday's game, Freeney replied, "Eric Mangini" and dissapeared into the darkness.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Osi Umenyiora says he will retire from the NFL if he doesn't get his starting job back next year...

Wow, what a fucking scumbag. Can't believe how quick this guy turned from being one of my favorite players on the team to a huge crybaby. Part of me wants to see him back in camp next year, lose the DE battle, and actually retire and pretty much ruin his reputation for life.

But...I'm willing to bet there is a team out there that will put together a really good trade package for him. Hate to say it, but at this point you have to ship him off. Be funny if he doesn't win the starting job on whatever team he gets traded to.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Pro Football Hall of Fame Class of 2010:

Russ Grimm
Rickey Jackson
Dick LeBeau
Floyd Little
Jerry Randle
Jerry Rice
Emmitt Smith

Good class. Cris Carter left out again, but this year makes sense because I'm really not sure any WR deserves to go in the same year as Rice.

Also wonder if Ray Guy will ever get in. Maybe he'll end up being a Vet selection, but despite the fact that its punting...being far and away the best to play the game at your position warrants a HOF selection IMO.</font>

[Emperor Smeat]

Sort of surprised Andre Rison and Cris Carter didn't make it since last year both were close to the Hall vote requirement but even if both managed to make it, they would have been overshadowed by Rice and Smith easily.

Nice selection this year for the Hall though since its a good mix of quality defense and offense players. Used to like Smith as much as I liked Barry Sanders in the early 1990s as my favorite RBs during the early years of being a general NFL fan who mostly watched Superbowls and the occasional regular season game.

[Skippord]

how is Shannon Sharpe not in the hall of fame?

[Skippord]

like not just because I'm a giant homer but also he retired as statistically the best tight end ever

[Heros Welcome]

<font color=goldenrod>Osi Umenyiora says he will retire from the NFL if he doesn't get his starting job back next year...

Wow, what a fucking scumbag. Can't believe how quick this guy turned from being one of my favorite players on the team to a huge crybaby. Part of me wants to see him back in camp next year, lose the DE battle, and actually retire and pretty much ruin his reputation for life.

But...I'm willing to bet there is a team out there that will put together a really good trade package for him. Hate to say it, but at this point you have to ship him off. Be funny if he doesn't win the starting job on whatever team he gets traded to.</font>


Atlanta could use help in the pass rush. I'd take him with open arms. Though I'm still holding out hope for Peppers.

[James Steele]

ALL HAIL THE GREATEST RB OF ALL TIME...

http://dans-sports.com/football/16x20/EmmittSmith-col-2-lg.jpg

[Gonzo]

http://blackathlete.net/artman2/uploads/1/Walter_Payton.jpg

http://www.bsidenation.com/images/bsidepics1/JimBrownFootballbs.jpg

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>David Caruso needs to walk out and say a corny line before The Who starts playing.....then have it immediately segue into <i>YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!</i></font>

[CSL]

Wonder if Underwood would have sang the national anthem had the Cowboys been in the Superbowl

[McLegend]

Wow what a move that onside kick was.

[Shadow]

What sheer huge balls do you have to have an onside kick right after the half-time show that results in that? Manning is looking pissed though on the sideline.

I love this game.

[owenbrown]

David Caruso needs to walk out and say a corny line before The Who starts playing.....then have it immediately segue into YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

lol

[owenbrown]

HOLY SHIT!

[OssMan]

HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT HURRICANE KATRINA IS OVER HURRICANE KATRINA IS OVER HURRICANE KATRINA IS OVER

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I feel good for the Saints...was rooting for them, much like I'd likely root for any team getting their first SB.</font>

[parkmania]

Congrats, so now that you've got the NFL Champs, how about getting people out of living in shacks?


Wasn't rooting FOR the Saints as much as I was rooting AGAINST the Colts.

[McLegend]

Peyton Manning choked.

[Crimson]

LOL@ everyone sucking his cock all last week. It shrivled up before blew his load

[VonErichLives]

they layed down. Undefeated is to big for them. They arent the Patriots by any stretch of the imagination.

Gutless coach, gutless VP = gutless football team.

No other way to spin it really. Look at the teams faces. This team is not going to the Superbowl now.

Well, RP called it.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>lol always looks like they are going to drop the trophy</font>

[Jeritron]

Good to see Manning get back to his old ways.

Tom Brady - 3

Peyton Manning, Trent Dilfer - 1

[Blue Demon]

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[VonErichLives]

Oh and Steve Young... STFU! I loved how he was all over Bruschi today "you lost to an inferior team because you were tired and should have rested players"... Bullshit... I'm not sure what was better Tedy saying "We lost because they played better then us on that day and deserved to be world champs" or Ditka then going "Steve, this is football, you don't get tired"...

Congrats Saints...

[Emperor Smeat]

So would Peyton still be happy that the Saints won since for whole 2 weeks that is what ESPN mostly covered when they asked for his opinion about the Saints and being from the city?

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Three exciting Super Bowls in a row...gotta love it.</font>

[McLegend]

That ending goalline sequence just gives more credit to the theory of Peyton Manning being the Head Coach of the Colts. Why wouldn't you call a time out before 4th down? The run might have been the wrong call on 3rd down, but it was made even worse by not calling a time out.

Any other Head Coach in that situation calls a time out. Either if they score they probably don't win anyway.

[Team Sheep]

Intense game. Congrats Saints.

[Innovator]

Krispy is either in an alcoholic coma or had a heart attack

[D Mac]

RP is either in an alcoholic coma or offed himself.

[El Fangel]

Would have been nice if both QB's showed up for the game, grats Saints.

[RaginRonic]

Little thing to let people here know about.

The Super Bowl commercials, the biggest ad debuts of the year, regardless of content, are blanket Banned in Canada. Why? When it comes to advertising dollars in the biggest U.S. TV shows, Super Bowl included, no Canadian TV station is allowed to air them, and that all advertising dollars for that big game in Canada are NOT allowed to 'go across the border', as in a Canadian advertisers monopoly over the game.

This means that, as far as the Canadian Radio, Television, and TeleCommunications Commission(CRTC), the Canadian Advertising Industry, and CTV or any other channel up here that airs the Super Bowl, the Border for advertising money is Permanently Closed and walled up.

[OssMan]

Would have been nice if both QB's showed up for the game, grats Saints.
um what

[OssMan]

Brees 32/39 288 YDS 2 TD 0 INT
Manning 31/45 333 YDS 1 TD 1 INT

Manning throwing an interception means he didn't show up?

[SammyG]

Good game, not as good as last year, but yeah.

[McLegend]

Michael Vick should be Super bowl 44 MVP

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

So awesome that the game came down to a Manning pick 6. Unrealllllll

[Emperor Smeat]

Only Lions, Jaguars, Browns, and Texans are remaining teams to never have been in a Superbowl with Saints and Cardinals coming off the list the last 2 years. Although the Browns and Lions own NFL championships.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Out of the teams to have never been to a SB, I think I could definitely see the Texans making it all the way to the SB in their first playoff appearance. Their offense is good enough to carry the bulk, just need to get a couple more defensive guys.</font>

[Big Fat Mike]

Now that the Saints won, we will all lose due to the approaching flame war.

Think I'm going to avoid any RP/Krispy posts for the next few weeks.

[Reavant]

LOL REAVANT REMEMBER THAT TIME YOU SAID YOU WERE GONNA TALK SO MUCH SHIT WHEN THE JETS BEAT THE COLTS? LOL WHAT HAPPENED THERE ARE YOU STILL GONNA TALK SHIT EVEN THOUGH THE COLTS GOT 24 UNANSWERED POINTS AND CAME BACK TO BEAT THE JETS?

Nah but seriously. Caps lock off for a second here so I can let you know how I really feel.

Suck it.

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:D

[Big Fat Mike]

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:D

This exemplifies awesome. :rofl:

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Raheem Brock is "questioning" some things on Twitter. He "isn't making excuses" though.

Basically implying that the refs wanted the Saints to win, alright bruh the zebra's didn't make Manning throw that pick 6 or make Hank Basket watch the football slam off his chest during the on-side kick.

[Jeritron]

the refs made that field goal go wide with their minds

[Reavant]

catrina made an appearance and blew the ball wide

[Shadow]

The refs gave the Saints 2 points. That's probably what he's "questioning".

Not that it mattered in the end.

[Reavant]

they didnt though... he was clearly in

[Jeritron]

Slow motion, HD footage clearly showed that he caught the ball, established control, and brought it in over the goal line before hitting the ground. He even held onto it when he hit the ground.
After the fact, a Colt's foot kicked it out but that was too late.

CLEARLY a 2 point conversion. Great catch too

[Reavant]

^WERD

[Requiem]

Saints played better football today, hands down. Wasn't a fan of 'some stuff', but the Colts honestly just couldn't make some plays they should have. Looking at the numbers, the Colts played better (minus that pick). But when it came down to it, the Saints were able to make more key plays. :(

Congrats Saints :y:

[Jeritron]

How do you figure The Colts played better looking at the numbers? They got outscored in every quarter aside from one, and Peyton Manning only threw one touchdown.

Yards don't matter

[Requiem]

Didn't say they did. If they mattered, the Colts would have won. Hence why I the Saints made more key plays.

'I Agree' would have worked all the same.

[Jeritron]

You said looking at the numbers The Colts played better. They got outscored 34-7 after the first quarter

This all means you're a monumental asshole

[Jeritron]

Looking at the numbers, the Colts played better (minus that pick)

How do you figure The Colts played better looking at the numbers?

Didn't say they did.


Major League Asshole.

[Requiem]

Looking at all of the stats; if the stats mattered (AS SAID), the Colts played better. They put up the numbers, but couldn't get the points. And as I also said, they missed some opportunities they shouldn't have.

Don't see how any of that makes me a 'monumental asshole', other than your dumbfuck ass thinking you're clever. :roll:

[Requiem]

Yards don't matter

Didn't say they did.

You dumb fuck.

[Jeritron]

34-7 after the first quarter. They're an offensive team and didn't do shit

Looking at the stats, they didn't play better. You're full of piss and vinegar and whole lot of other things.
This is what makes you an idiot.

That and everything else you say on the matter of football. The Colts lost and you're the biggest fool in the history of the Grid-iron.
Now you're going to play the whole "Oh well, it was a good season, Congrats Saints!" card because you hardly care about "your team"

Go post about Modern Warfare 2 until it's time to fit back in come September

[Jeritron]

juan_version_ten: he's just gonna say that he never said the yards mattered

[Requiem]

lol and so if I had come in here moaning with 'OMG BAD CALL WHEN THAT THING HAPPENED' and 'CAN'T BELIEVE THEY LOST', you would have reacted any differently?

Get off it you arrogant prick. Absolutely nothing would have had you reacting any differently. I chose to come here and say "Congrats Saints" because it is the respectful thing to do instead of making excuses for why my team didn't win. So suck my dick.

The Saints deserved to win today, because the Colts didn't bring their A game. I will continue to root for them next season, and the next, and the next, and so on..

[Jeritron]

I would have at least respected the fact that you cared, even though it's hard to believe someone would after picking the team out of a hat during the summer and watching approximately 8 full games in their lifetime

[Jeritron]

I chose to come here and say "Congrats Saints" because it is the respectful thing to do instead of making excuses for why my team didn't win..

Excuses?

Like what? Saying that The Colts played better aside from one play?

[Requiem]

So because I don't whine and bitch and moan, I don't care?

That is the most retarded thing you've said yet. You wouldn't have respected shit. You would have sat there and made the same jokes you did before.

[Jeritron]

You are the joke, in case you haven't noticed yet

[Jeritron]

You're right, I would have elicited a spaz out from you no matter what happened

[Jeritron]

So are you going to explain to me how you took the high road and didn't make excuses, even though several posts prior to that you stated that "The Colts played better (aside from that one pick)"?

[Requiem]

I know you think you are being clever, but you're really not. It's quite transparent.

Have been pretty specific with everything I've said, and you're quite blatantly disregarding that specificness. Absolutely nothing I say is going to change what you're trying to get across, because the point you're trying to get across is based on words that you've twisted from their original intent and meaning.

[Jeritron]

Can you answer my question? If I'm wrong and I'm not clever then it shouldn't be a problem whatsoever

Also, after that I have a second:

Can you cite the stats that you claim show The Colts played better? You said it was statistically, so I'd like to see what outweighs the ones I cited (outscored 34-7 after the first quarter)

[Jeritron]

<TABLE class=tborder cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=4 width="100%" align=center border=0><THEAD><TR><TD class=tcat colSpan=5>140225 point(s) total http://www.tpww.net/forums/images/buttonsgreen/collapse_tcat.gif (http://www.tpww.net/forums/usercp.php#top) Latest Reputation Received </TD></TR></THEAD><TBODY id=collapseobj_usercp_reputation><TR><TD class=thead> </TD><TD class=thead>Thread</TD><TD class=thead>Date</TD><TD class=thead noWrap>Posted By</TD><TD class=thead>Comment</TD></TR><TR><TD class=alt2>http://www.tpww.net/forums/images/reputation/reputation_neg.gif</TD><TD class=alt1Active id=p29295291536 width="50%">NFL 2009 Season Thread (http://www.tpww.net/forums/showthread.php?p=2929529#post2929529) </TD><TD class=alt2 noWrap>02-08-2010 03:45 AM</TD><TD class=alt1 noWrap>Requiem (http://www.tpww.net/forums/member.php?u=1536) </TD><TD class=alt2 width="50%">None of this has been a 'spaz' so I don't know what you're on about. You think you're being clever and 'getting under my skin', but you're failing quite miserably even if you're in denial.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

[Requiem]

The stats are in plain text. The Colts' players put up better numbers.

http://www.nfl.com/stats/weeklyleaders

As for your question. There is nothing to answer. As I said in the first post, that you instantly took out of context, the Saints made more KEY plays. Do you know what KEY means? They made more IMPORTANT plays. I didn't say the yardage mattered, which is why I clarified again by saying 'if it did, the Colts would have won'. I said statistically, the Colts played better. And they did. But when it mattered, the Saints played better, and it won them the game.

What is so hard to grasp about that that you feel the need to argue about it?

[SammyG]

oh god, and this is with req. wait till rp gets in here.

[Requiem]

Also, you whine about red dots more than kane86 on his period.

[Jeritron]

This is what's funny. I had to ask you to answer these things, and you still haven't.

What in this link is supposed to be relevant? Makes no sense. The Colts did not play better statistically, or in any facet. They got smoked after a strong first quarter.

The other thing, you complain about me instead of addressing whats at hand. You claim I've twisted your words, but I haven't at all.

You came in with a lame response about how the Colts played better statistically. I asked you to explain this, and stated my case for why they didn't.
No twisting present here.

You then claimed you didn't make any excuses. Since when is posting a congratulations, with a "we played better" comment attached to it not a bullshit excuse?

No twisting. You just would rather complain about my motives than actually debunk the argument. You're backtracking for contradicting yourself, by claiming that I'm "transparent" and "twisting your words."

[Jeritron]

Also, you whine about red dots more than kane86 on his period.

I could care less. When you sent the first one, I said "who negs?", because honestly why would someone care to.
After that I sent you a few. You didn't seem to like that very much and started firing them back consistently.

I posted the one in this thread, not because I cared, but because it's hilarious and I want everyone to see it.
The irony of what it says, in the format it's presented, is a laugh riot.

[D Mac]

There's only one stat that matters. The score.

[thecc]

Manning threw under 50 yards more and only had one touchdown. That's really not much better.

[Requiem]

'No twisting' my ass.

Your argument WAS debunked. Learn to read. There was no question to answer, and I explained why there wasn't.

Everything in that link is relevant. It states cold hard numbers, which is EXACTLY what you asked for. It shows that the Colts' players put up better numbers. In plain text. You do know how to read, right?

Just gonna refer you back to post #5483 from now on.

[thecc]

Anyone who has followed football for more than a year realizes this.

[FearedSanctity]

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2010020700/2009/POST22/saints@colts#tab:analyze

k so looking at those stats and discounting yard related ones (since you both agreed "they don't matter") I don't really see much that shows the Colts did all that much better. If anything they're really close. And even with yards, Colts only had 100 more and almost all of that came with no response from the Saints, from the Colts driving when it was 24-17 and 31-17

[Requiem]

Post #5483 (http://tpww.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2929538&postcount=5483)

[thecc]

I quit. Apparently the guy who just started watching football knows wayyy more than the guys who've been watching it for years. :sigh:

[Jeritron]

'No twisting' my ass.

Your argument WAS debunked. Learn to read. There was no question to answer, and I explained why there wasn't.

Everything in that link is relevant. It states cold hard numbers, which is EXACTLY what you asked for. It shows that the Colts' players put up better numbers. In plain text. You do know how to read, right?

Just gonna refer you back to post #5483 from now on.

The only thing it proves is that they were better for yardage. Nothing else. I thought we established that didn't matter?

This is all bullshit. They did not play better statistically, and you did make a bullshit excuse. You didn't debunk anything.

Keep trying to weasle out of it

[Requiem]

And Jeritron - It is an observation I made about the game. Why is that so hard for you to handle without jumping down my throat and turning it into something you can 'best' me at like some kind of football big shot? :roll:

Fuck off thecc. You've had no part of this conversation, and I couldn't give two shits about your cock-faced comments.

[FearedSanctity]

Post #5483 (http://tpww.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2929538&postcount=5483)

OK but again, those stats are somewhat skewed by what basically amounted to those last two "free drives" for the Colts. Most of the players were driven up from them. Had the Saints had to (didn't because of pick 6) or bothered to (didn't due to kneeling) respond with a drive, those categories would've been more balanced or possibly have gone the other way

[Jeritron]

Don't even bother arguing logic with him because he'll claim you're attacking him and refer you to a vague link that he thinks absolves him

[Requiem]

Ok, but again, there's more to post #5483 than the link in it.

I thought we established that didn't matter?

EXACTLY.

Which is why I said that in my FIRST RESPONSE, which you took a completely different manner, and brought us full circle back to it.

Fuck's sake.

[Jeritron]

And Jeritron - It is an observation I made about the game. Why is that so hard for you to handle without jumping down my throat and turning it into something you can 'best' me at like some kind of football big shot? :roll:

Fuck off thecc. You've had no part of this conversation, and I couldn't give two shits about your cock-faced comments.

It's not an observation. It's a bullshit lie. The team got outscored 34-7 from the first quarter on. Brees didn't have as many yards, but he played far better statistically in every other facet.

Look at redzone numbers, and conversions. How about kicking? Does that even matter to you?

You stated they played better statistically, and they didn't.

Then you claimed you took the high road and came in here to congratulate The Saints, and didn't make any excuses.
That's bullshit too. You tried to throw in that "your team" played better, but didn't win. That's a bullshit excuse, shrouded in a congratulations.

I called you on both. You didn't, and still haven't debunked either. You can't because they are both factual.
So you claim that I'm twisting your words, and complain about me and my motives. It's a great red herring argument to try and weasle out of the point at hand.
It's not working though.

[D Mac]

I miss football already. :(