NFL 2009 Season Thread

[Nervous Ferret]

the new york jets are a good football team

[RP]

ROFL Manning is the best QB in the league and the Colts are the best team in the league.

[Hanso Amore]

Fuck Bills Special Teams Return men, learn to FUCKIN HOLD ON TO THE BALL

[Emperor Smeat]

According to ESPN, Rams now own current loosing streak at 13 straight losses.

6 more in a row ties the Lions for 2nd worst streak of all time while 7 more in a row makes them own 2nd worst streak of all time (Bucs #1 at 26 Ls in a row).

[Skippord]

I think the Browns may be the worst team in the NFL at the moment

[#1-norm-fan]

It's a toss up between the Browns and the Rams really.

Also, I was totally on board with the people who said that Favre was completely the wrong QB for Minnesota. He's actually showing that he may be the perfect QB for the system. Just letting AP and the D win games and controlling the ball the first two weeks would have been good enough. It's rare that a QB is as good as he has been at that for the first two weeks AND is capable of winning it on his own but today when Peterson and the D stumbled, he leads them down with no time outs and makes a PERFECT throw to win the game. The man is ridiculous.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Indy comes in giving up 176 rushing yards a game and Arizona calls 12 runs and 58 passes. Run the fucking ball, dumbasses.

[Emperor Smeat]

Arizona hasn't been a rushing style team in years. No real reason why since they've had decent to good RBs last few years.

[Emperor Smeat]

It's a toss up between the Browns and the Rams really.

Also, I was totally on board with the people who said that Favre was completely the wrong QB for Minnesota. He's actually showing that he may be the perfect QB for the system. Just letting AP and the D win games and controlling the ball the first two weeks would have been good enough. It's rare that a QB is as good as he has been at that for the first two weeks AND is capable of winning it on his own but today when Peterson and the D stumbled, he leads them down with no time outs and makes a PERFECT throw to win the game. The man is ridiculous.

The real key is going to be later in the season if he gets hurt or when the wear and tear of a season occurs. Last year with the great Jets D and decent O, Farve fell apart last 4-5 games of the year. Although Minnesota should be different since the coach is familiar with Farve and unlike the Jets, Minnesota plays in a dome for most cold weather games.

[D Mac]

It's a toss up between the Browns and the Rams really.

.

Heh, KC is probably worst.

[redoneja]

Whoa whoa whoa. Don't discount my Bucs.

[SammyG]

WOOOOOOOOO RAMS

[Shadow]

Hey just want everyone to know right here right now.

FUCK THE REDSKINS!

[Requiem]

God, Dwight Freeney is a BEAST.

[Boomer]

I haven't even watched the Bucs, but Byron Leftwich is terrible. That's what he gets for talking down to me when I worked at Best Buy :(

[CSL]

Josh Johnson named starter. Why not just throw Freeman in, get him some experience. They're fucked anyway.

[ClockShot]

Word around Miami is that Pennington is done for the season.

Big setback for the Fish.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

So look for Pennington to win his 3rd comeback player of the year award in 2010.

[redoneja]

Uh they're mammals. :roll:

[Loose Cannon]

Chad :'(

[Loose Cannon]

word around Cleveland is that Eric Mangini is going to suit up and start @ QB this week

[Boomer]

My Leftwich complaint must have been the last straw. Serves him right!

[parkmania]

Apparently, my Steelers are more dependant on Polamalu than anyone realized...

<sigh>


And my 2-year old son has a tryout to take over Jeff Reed's job. 3 misses in two weeks - WTF!

[VonErichLives]

So, do Broncos fans still hate Josh McDaniels and think he sucks?

The Pats OL looked great yesterday... part of that of course being the ATL DL is horrible... but the Pats OL did play better.

Brady is starting to get some rythm back, now he just needs someone who can hold onto the ball when thrown to them...

Lots of possible big injuries yesterday.

Gore, Wiflrok, Freeney...

[#1-norm-fan]

Yeah, what the fuck. McDaniels was supposed to lead the team to an awful season and then be fired.

That defense is playing fucking incredible. Granted the only real challenge they've had was Cincy but they've been lights out, regardless. Kinda makes you wonder what they would do this season with Cutler.

[Boomer]

So, do Broncos fans still hate Josh McDaniels and think he sucks?

The Pats OL looked great yesterday... part of that of course being the ATL DL is horrible... but the Pats OL did play better.

Brady is starting to get some rythm back, now he just needs someone who can hold onto the ball when thrown to them...

Lots of possible big injuries yesterday.

Gore, Wiflrok, Freeney...

Yeah even though Jerry is a rookie he was still giving us a better look than his replacements. Jamaal Anderson is terrible and everybody knows it, but Biermann and Babineaux are awesome in tandem with Abraham. Our defense needs extensive work. Brent Grimes (5'8") was covering Moss (6'4") on way too many plays.

The defense overachieved in the first game, and has played about how I expected them to since. Keep the Falcons offense off the field, and you'll win the game. Matt Ryan looked way better than Brady the entire game though. Made some beautiful passes and had a ton of passes dropped by Roddy White circa 2007.

But why the hell did the Falcons not blitz at all? Bringing four against the Pats is just stupid if you don't have the personnel to do so (a la NYG).

[Skippord]

So, do Broncos fans still hate Josh McDaniels and think he sucks?

I don't, still think some of his draft decisions were retarded

but he's been good and so has the team

[Dadstar]

Hmmm, let's see.

Go Jets.

[SammyG]

Cowboys stadium is incredible.

[Loose Cannon]

I need 25 points between Mr Felix Jones and Jason Witten

[RP]

This is a good game to drink shots too

Everytime Romo or Delhome turn the ball over, take a shot!

[Loose Cannon]

yea really. I want to bash Romo's head open already. he needs to do two things. Hand the ball to Jones and throw straight to Witten

[Loose Cannon]

wow, nice run fucking spazz

[Loose Cannon]

that's 1

[VonErichLives]

Yeah even though Jerry is a rookie he was still giving us a better look than his replacements. Jamaal Anderson is terrible and everybody knows it, but Biermann and Babineaux are awesome in tandem with Abraham. Our defense needs extensive work. Brent Grimes (5'8") was covering Moss (6'4") on way too many plays.

The defense overachieved in the first game, and has played about how I expected them to since. Keep the Falcons offense off the field, and you'll win the game. Matt Ryan looked way better than Brady the entire game though. Made some beautiful passes and had a ton of passes dropped by Roddy White circa 2007.

But why the hell did the Falcons not blitz at all? Bringing four against the Pats is just stupid if you don't have the personnel to do so (a la NYG).

yeah, I was surprised they didn't blitz more. the DL of ATL was getting blown off the ball on running plays and everyone knows the Pats love to run the screen... seemed ATL couldn't handle it... think you'd prepare for that a little more.

I don't think Ryan looked "way better" then Brady all game. I think both looked good but not great, Brady had his best game so far, not as many bad timing plays and over/under throws... most of his problems were drops or guys not finishing routes. (Galloway, Aiken, Edelman) christ, they're still saying Galloway doesn't know the plays... and WTF with that out of bounds in the end zone... not knowing plays is one thing, but had the endzone changed size recently?

I'm a big Ryan fan, I think he's going to be an NFL star down the road as long as they can keep a decent offense around him.

[VonErichLives]

ok... WTF... "searching for signal on satellite"...
it's not raining or snow... is there a cloud or a moon in front of the god damn satellite... fucking directv...

[Loose Cannon]

Jake Delhome airs it out lol

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Come on Panthers!



....Please :(

[HeartBreakMan2k]

I mean, my childhood favorites are doing well this year (Niners, fuck Gunslinger Farve btw). But the hometown team has gotta put in some work now.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

I love how ESPN is trying to re-sell fans on Delhomme. I've never liked him, you're not going to tell me that he's good :mad:

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Jake Delhomme is the worst quarterback in the history of the National Football League</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>How much longer of a leash does Delolhomme have?</font>

[HeartBreakMan2k]

...Wouldn't be a Panther game without Delhomme trying to force something and choking. And ESPN needs to shut the fuck up, that wasn't Smith dumping the route. That was Delhomme making a dumb fucking decision. Why would Smith be running that short of a slant when you need the first, of course Smith is going to cut back. He's trying to get the first and win the game. FUCK JAKE DELHOMME. And yeah, real smart. Let's have our playmaker sit on the sideline right now. Great shit. FUCK Jake Delhomme since 2003.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Woooo Jake Delhomme just won me my fantasy matchup this week. I was down 14 pts with Dallas D going tonight. Already had it chalked up as a loss, but NO.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>On April 23, 2009, The Panthers signed Delhomme to a 5-year extension worth $42.5 million, with a $20 million guarantee, putting him under contract through 2014.

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Good lord. Forgot about that</font>

[Emperor Smeat]

Woooo Jake Delhomme just won me my fantasy matchup this week. I was down 14 pts with Dallas D going tonight. Already had it chalked up as a loss, but NO.

:lol:

[HeartBreakMan2k]

On April 23, 2009, The Panthers signed Delhomme to a 5-year extension worth $42.5 million, with a $20 million guarantee, putting him under contract through 2014.

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Good lord. Forgot about that

Yeah :(

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>The Giants' D basically won me a game in one league due to the shutout bonus</font>

[Anybody Thrilla]

I don't post in this forum...well, ever....but I must say that the Cincinnati Football Bengals are the man.

[Skippord]

you know who's more the man?

Brandon Stokley

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[RP]

lol Gus Johnson

first thing he says sounds like " EWOooooooooUGHHHHHH GOD! "

[RP]

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Thx for the scoop Marshall Faulk. Tennessee definetly closed the window. Accept for that whole Colts having a 2 game lead on the AFC South after 3 weeks thing. But yah... Yah

[Kris P Lettus]

Ugly win but glad to see PT Cruiser rush for 120+.. With him and Mike Bell, we actually have an awesome running game..

Oh, and Hanso, this is not the same team as last year.. 3 new DB's in Malcolm Jenkins (who is awesome), Greer, and Darren Sharper.. Also, we got Tracy Porter back who was having an awesome season last year until he broke his wrist in like week 3 last year..

Kinda worried about the Jets D.. Those crazy defensive alignments like 2 down limemen, 1 LB, and 8 DB's are fucking nuts.. Hopefully with Bell coming back and PT Cruiser looking good, our run game can counter some of those blitz packages that the Rexacutions come with..

[Hanso Amore]

Didnt hurt to play the worst fucking offense ever. God I hate the fucking Bills right now. They ruin my falls and winters.

[Kris P Lettus]

Our CB's shut TO down..

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Drew Brees only on pace for 48 TDs now. WHAT'S THE STORY, KRISPY

[Kris P Lettus]

Dunno.. I worked until 7am Sunday morning and had to be back at work at 6pm Sunday evening so I slept through the game..

:(

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

This is random but I just want to post about how awful the Cleveland Browns are. It's unreal

[Kris P Lettus]

Raiders too.. I really thought Russell was gonna be a decent NFL QB cause of his arm but he obv doesn't have what it takes upstairs to get it done..

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I knew he was gonna suck, he wasn't a NFL QB at all in college. He wasn't even that highly rated either until he tore up a weak Notre Dame secondary in his last start at LSU in a bowl game.

To me, some guys just look like NFL QBs and others don't. I am usually good with that when it comes to QBs - looking at running backs though I have had a time projecting. Few examples, I thought Steve Slaton was gonna be AWFUL in the NFL but he's done pretty good. I thought Reggie Bush was gonna be SICK even though he didn't really run between the tackles much in college - guess I should have seen that 1 coming. I also didn't think Darren McFadden was ever gonna be that special but I guess the jury still is out on that.

[#1-norm-fan]

Why do I feel like there's a good chance we get ANOTHER 0-16 team this year?

[Kris P Lettus]

I knew he was gonna suck, he wasn't a NFL QB at all in college. He wasn't even that highly rated either until he tore up a weak Notre Dame secondary in his last start at LSU in a bowl game.

To me, some guys just look like NFL QBs and others don't. I am usually good with that when it comes to QBs - looking at running backs though I have had a time projecting. Few examples, I thought Steve Slaton was gonna be AWFUL in the NFL but he's done pretty good. I thought Reggie Bush was gonna be SICK even though he didn't really run between the tackles much in college - guess I should have seen that 1 coming. I also didn't think Darren McFadden was ever gonna be that special but I guess the jury still is out on that.

Well, considering Russell can throw a football like 70 yards from his knees, the athleticism is there, just not the smarts..

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Could be the Browns, I can't see them winning any of the games within their own division. Their offense is a joke too, have they even score 20 total points yet?

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Well, considering Russell can throw a football like 70 yards from his knees, the athleticism is there, just not the smarts..
It's more than just being able to the throw the ball far too though. Lots of guys can chuck the ball but things like being able to put the right touch on it, being able to squeeze it between tight coverage, footwork, stepping up in the pocket etc. is all huge too. Plus he obviously seems pretty dumb since I heard they are still dialing back the playbook for him which is ridiculous. All you do is play football, how do you not know the playbook?

[Nervous Ferret]

h8 the big arm argument for QBs. Kyle Boller could throw the ball from the 50 yard line through the goal posts FROM HIS KNEES. That is incredible and all, but I would take Chad Pennington over that every time

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

It's like the same thing with the work out warrior, why the fuck were Gholston and Vernon Davis first round picks? Neither guy warranted it during their play in college (Gholston got 2/3 of his total sacks during his senior year in 2 games) but they put got picked so high because of their work out numbers.

[#1-norm-fan]

Felix Jones needs to stay healthy. This is ridiculous. He's gonna miss next weeks game. Hopefully Barber is back but Jones is the playmaker.

If he could stay healthy, he'd be the best back in the league. The man just seems to break through nearly every time he touches the ball. 7.6 yds per carry in his college career, 8.9 yds per carry last year including a kick return TD before getting hurt and 10.1 yds per carry this season. Those are just disgusting averages.

[Droford]

h8 the big arm argument for QBs. Kyle Boller could throw the ball from the 50 yard line through the goal posts FROM HIS KNEES. That is incredible and all, but I would take Chad Pennington over that every time

Too bad he was on his BACK 99% of the time in Baltimore, probably like he'll be in St Louis.

[Boomer]

The big arm argument has always come up for me with Stafford. Sure he played in a pro-style offense in college and has a rocket arm, but he should have never been a #1 pick. His athleticism will only get him so far in the NFL. He has to pick up the other stuff, or he will suffer into mediocrity.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

One guy who has surprised me has been Matt Lienart, I thought for sure he was gonna be a good NFL QB after watching him play in college. I really don't understand how he's not, I mean I know he had great talent with him there at USC but still. Kinda figured he'd be doing what Sanchez is doing now.

I really don't think Wisenhunt likes him for some reason though, I wouldn't be surprised to see him go else where and potentially be decent.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I missed on Leinart but I was right about VY and Cutler. I was WAY off about Aaron Rodgers.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Aaron Rodgers was the hangover from the failure that was Joey Harrington though, same system same results in college.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

If I was a GM, I would never draft a DE in the first round. Just looking at this draft history, so many busts. Only 2 1st round DE's drafted in the past 7 years have gotten double digit sacks in a season.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Plus when you do draft a good DE, people get all in your shit about how you should've drafted Vince Young and Reggie Bush.

[Skippord]

To Stima's earlier point I really think the Browns are the worst team in football

god so bad

[Triple Naitch]

Mario Williams sure did prove all those Reggie Bush fanatics wrong.

[Splaya]

On April 23, 2009, The Panthers signed Delhomme to a 5-year extension worth $42.5 million, with a $20 million guarantee, putting him under contract through 2014.

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Good lord. Forgot about that

LOL

[#1-norm-fan]

I missed on Leinart but I was right about VY and Cutler. I was WAY off about Aaron Rodgers.

Vince Young was known to win games. Including that awesome comeback against the Giants. Him acting like a child is what ended up getting him on the bench. And Cutler is not a bust yet.

[#1-norm-fan]

Derek Anderson back in as starting QB for the Browns.

Eric Mangini is such a terrible coach. lol. Brady Quinn is a fine QB but the system and talent around him on that offense is just pathetic. Throwing him in and out as the starter is not going to help.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Vince Young was known to win games. Including that awesome comeback against the Giants. Him acting like a child is what ended up getting him on the bench. And Cutler is not a bust yet.
What? Cutler is good, which is what I thought he would be. How is there any debate there?

And yeah Young might've gotten benched for being a baby, but I'm sure his 68 QB Rating had plenty to do with it as well.

[The Gold Standard]

Derek Anderson now starting in Cleveland. I was hoping Quinn would have been better.

I wonder if this will make Edwards better.

[DrA]

They shouldn't have benched him in the first place.

[The Gold Standard]

I don't know. I mean you have a former first round pick sitting on the bench. You need to give him a chance.

[DrA]

He was really good two years ago when the Browns were good, which is a very rare thing. He got injured last year if I recall and he didn't do so hot. You could see from a mile away that Brady Quinn wasn't going to be able to do any better than Anderson, especially as a second or so year player. I bet Anderson signs with Tampa or some team in his career and takes them to the playoffs.

[DrA]

I didn't watch any football at all last year though so my frame of reference is a little dated.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Flozell Adams seriously needs to be thrown out of the league. He routinely makes dirty plays and gets slapped with nothing more than fines.</font>

[OssMan]

Flozell Adams is trippin

[#1-norm-fan]

What? Cutler is good, which is what I thought he would be. How is there any debate there?

And yeah Young might've gotten benched for being a baby, but I'm sure his 68 QB Rating had plenty to do with it as well.

You didn't really make it clear which way you were predicting when you were right. Something about the way you were talking made me think you meant you were right about both of them being busts.

[#1-norm-fan]

He was really good two years ago when the Browns were good, which is a very rare thing. He got injured last year if I recall and he didn't do so hot. You could see from a mile away that Brady Quinn wasn't going to be able to do any better than Anderson, especially as a second or so year player. I bet Anderson signs with Tampa or some team in his career and takes them to the playoffs.

Anderson had his one good season. Even then, I don't think it was as monster as people seem to think. And he didn't get injured last year, he was benched because he began sucking. Then Quinn came in and looked decent in a couple games, then HE got injured for the year giving Anderson the job back.

There is an investment in Quinn. I really think he's the better QB without a doubt. He was a first round pick for a reason and he's done nothing to prove himself to be a bust. He's stuck in a HORRIFIC offense. I thought he looked fantastic last year against Denver too. Quinn is not the problem as was shown by Anderson coming in and throwing 3 terrible look INTs last week. Quinn is the best QB on that team. He should be starting. Mangini is a fool.

[Kris P Lettus]

Big problem with Anderson last year was Braylon Edwards dropping ever ball that came his way..

[Skippord]

Anderson is the better quarterback, easily

[Droford]

I was actually kind of upset that the Ravens just waived Anderson. I know it wasn't a major move in 2005, but he started playing well in 2007 with Cleveland which was also coincidentally when McNair ended up hurt and Boller was sucking hard. If it hadn't been for Flacco I probably would have been really angry.

[#1-norm-fan]

Anderson is the better quarterback, easily

When given the opportunity with the same team around him Quinn has outperformed Anderson EVERY SINGLE TIME.

Yet somehow, Anderson is the better QB... easily. lol

[Droford]

When given the opportunity with the same team around him Quinn has outperformed Anderson EVERY SINGLE TIME.

Yet somehow, Anderson is the better QB... easily. lol

I think you're confused or something.

Anderson proved he can get it done in 2006 when he threw for close to 4,000 yards and almost 30 TDs. When has Brady Quinn ever done anything remotely close to something in just one game that would indicate he has that kind of ability? In 7 games he hasn't even thrown for 1,000 yards and only has 3 TDs.

The fact is that neither is going to have much success with the WR talent that they have. Outside of Edwards, who would be at best a #2 on about 75% of the rest of the NFL's depth charts, they dont have much in the way of WR talent. Furrey is a reject from the Lions, Cribbs has a lot of speed but is better suited at kickoff returning, and their 2nd best receiver is probably their TE Robert Royal. And we can't forget Stallworth getting in trouble and suspended as well..Combine this with the fact that Jamal Lewis is toast and they're going with 2 RB's who 99% of NFL fans probably couldnt even name (the 1% is probably hardcore fantasy football players, and thats a stretch because neither is even worth owning) and you can see why they haven't scored an offensive TD in the equivalent of half a season (8 weeks).

[RP]

Peyton Manning.. he's pretty good.

[#1-norm-fan]

I think you're confused or something.

Anderson proved he can get it done in 2006 when he threw for close to 4,000 yards and almost 30 TDs. When has Brady Quinn ever done anything remotely close to something in just one game that would indicate he has that kind of ability? In 7 games he hasn't even thrown for 1,000 yards and only has 3 TDs.

Last year, Anderson was benched because he couldn't get the job done. Not because he was injured... he was benched because he was sucking. Brady Quinn played very well that preseason and then came in after Anderson's benching and performed well and only lost because the defense crumbled.

Quinn only lost the job because he got injured. He was drafted as the future of the team and has done NOTHING to show that he can't get the job done.

Again, Anderson had ONE good season in which Quinn never got the chance to play. Last year Anderson was benched and Quinn came in and showed that he can outperform Anderson before going down to injury. Quinn won the starting job in the preseason by outperforming Anderson (Everyone kinda knew it was his job all preseason long.) This year, Quinn struggled. The entire offense struggled. And last week against the Ravens, Quinn... again... as bad as he and the entire offense may have looked all game OUTPERFORMED DEREK ANDERSON who threw three AWFUL looking picks. There is no confusion in any of that. My point stands.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

It's probably better that Quinn isn't playing. In that offense all he's going to do is pick up a bunch of bad habits trying to force throws to guys who can't get open.

[Droford]

In anticipation of the game on Sunday, Im gonna watch the reairing of the Patriots/Ravens game from 2007 on NFL Network where the Ravens came up about 45 seconds short of putting an end to the Pats undefeated season.

I vaguely remember the 07 game, but I think it was full of horrible calls on the Ravens which was odd because it was in Baltimore, usually home team gets the calls but I guess when its the undefeated destiny team you're playing..

I'm really hoping that they can bring a similar defense to NE on Sunday, as the 3 sacks they got in 2007 was the most sacks NE allowed in a game that year and it was the closest they came to losing, and obviously the Jets showed that getting to Brady is a key to beating them this year.

[SammyG]

Look. Kyle super Boller is starting on Sunday. THE RAMS ERA OF DOMINANCE BEGINS

[Droford]

I got money on the 49ers, so yeah, he'll probably somehow manage to throw for 400 yards and 4 TDs despite not having any WRs that I can name aside from Donnie Avery.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

All he has to do is give the ball to S-Jax

[#1-norm-fan]

It's probably better that Quinn isn't playing. In that offense all he's going to do is pick up a bunch of bad habits trying to force throws to guys who can't get open.

That makes sense actually. Just sucks that they just can't get some more talent in that offense.

[#1-norm-fan]

In anticipation of the game on Sunday, Im gonna watch the reairing of the Patriots/Ravens game from 2007 on NFL Network where the Ravens came up about 45 seconds short of putting an end to the Pats undefeated season.

I vaguely remember the 07 game, but I think it was full of horrible calls on the Ravens which was odd because it was in Baltimore, usually home team gets the calls but I guess when its the undefeated destiny team you're playing..


I remember getting pissed like 3 times in those last few minutes or soabout horrible playcalls or terrible calls by the officials. Amazing game other than that.

[Emperor Smeat]

Best part of that game was how bad the coaching was late in the game for the Ravens. Ravens basically got the 4th down play by the Patriots destroyed but its ruled as a no play since Ravens D coach calls a timeout as Brady hikes the ball. The face of the coach was one of those "oh shit what did i do" occurring the same time as the defense stopped the play cold.

That one mistake ruined the mentality of the Defense since that's when the penalties and arguing occurred after.

[Droford]

Best part of that game was how bad the coaching was late in the game for the Ravens. Ravens basically got the 4th down play by the Patriots destroyed but its ruled as a no play since Ravens D coach calls a timeout as Brady hikes the ball. The face of the coach was one of those "oh shit what did i do" occurring the same time as the defense stopped the play cold.

That one mistake ruined the mentality of the Defense since that's when the penalties and arguing occurred after.

Rex "Im a defensive genius" Ryan called the time out, and Bart "dont call me boy" Scott got the 2 unsportsmanlike penalties.

The worst thing was I totally forgot that boller completed the hail mary pass at the end of the game...another yard and a half and that would have been EPIC.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>GIANTS WEEK 4 INACTIVES
WR Ramses Barden
DT Chris Canty
WR Domenik Hixon
OL Adam Koets
CD Aaron Ross
LB Clint Sintim
RB Danny Ware
OL Guy Whimper

Woooo, Dockery is finally playing. Should give the secondary a boost. Wonder how much Nicks will be involved with him back in as well.

The only way the Giants lose this game is if they don't show up, like the MNF game against the Browns last year. In terms of individual performance, I really want to see Jacobs wake up and have a big game, possibly running over a few Chiefs to boot.</font>

[Crimson]

Strahan is real good on the pregame show, a natural. Not sure if it has been said here before but yea, dude's funny.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Stra</font> :love:

[Droford]

Strahan is real good on the pregame show, a natural. Not sure if it has been said here before but yea, dude's funny.
Too bad he cant act..his show is pretty much dead.

[Droford]

well fuck that

[Skippord]

good start for the Ravens

[Droford]

down goes Brady! lol

hold em to a FG at least..

The Ravens have the best Red Zone defense in the NFL I think..would have preferred not to test it right off the back like that but its ok.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

lol another botched FG snap for the Bengals leads to a blocked kicked

3rd time in 4 weeks

[Supreme Olajuwon]

First pass attempt for Anderson, Edwards drops a wide open catch. I love the Browns.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

LOL whole stadium is booing on the first drive of the game

[SammyG]

Should I pick up Pierre Garcon in fantasy?

[Droford]

Should I pick up Pierre Garcon in fantasy?

Its a bit too late isn't it?

[SammyG]

I think he's still available... on waivers, obviously.

[Droford]

damnit..Mason makes a great catch for a TD and is hurt. Way to ruin an otherwise great like 15 play 80 yard march for the TD.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Kevin Smith's stats so far: 4 rush, -2 yards, 1 TD

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Chad looks very natural with the pink gloves and cleats. And a beautiful TD catch.

[SammyG]

Fuck ESPN's login page. can't even check on my fantasy right now.

[Droford]

If the Redskins lose to Tampa, does Snyder can Zorn before the day is over?

ooh..Football Jesus is hurt?

[SammyG]

Yeah Zorn is fired tomorrow if the Skins lose this.

[SammyG]

lol uh oh Brady Hurt

[CSL]

lol what Brian Hoyer drinks something from his cup, spits it back in then takes another drink

[SammyG]

FUCK ELI, COME ON. 2 TD's already, but a fumble and a pick? I need you to score a LOT

[Droford]

The Titans are well on their way to being the best 0-4 team in the NFL.

[SammyG]

I can not believe I started their D again.

[Droford]

Apparently if you even as much as graze football Jesus its a 15 yard foul.

[Gonzo]

Decent half by the Giants minus 2 turnovers. Shitty call on Page, the Chiefs DB, for that personal foul.

[Requiem]

Colts are destroying :love:

[McLegend]

lol Browns and Redskins.

[Droford]

The Ravens are doing everything in their power to lose the game but they're still in it down 10.

[Droford]

Football Jesus fumbles and the Ravens score a TD!

[Nervous Ferret]

Dr. Oford

[Droford]

lol Browns and Redskins.

you laughed too soon

[Skippord]

lol Bengals

[FearedSanctity]

I don't think JaMarcus Russell would be good on ANY team, let alone the Raiders

[Triple Naitch]

Damn, I wish I could see the Pats/Ravens game right now.

[Droford]

Its good to know the Bengals are really still the Bungles..

[Droford]

Damn, I wish I could see the Pats/Ravens game right now.

You aren't missing anything.

I can only hope the Ravens hold the Pats to a FG here, but thats asking too much.

[Droford]

bahah

the bengals had the PAT blocked that would have put them up 21-20

[Droford]

There are some really shitty games at 1pm next sunday on CBS...

[Triple Naitch]

So should I watch Dallas/Denver or Jets/Saints next?

[Droford]

If the Ravens somehow manage to pull this out, I wont be able to sleep tonight...

[Nervous Ferret]

Consider it "on" Kris P. Lettus :mad:

[Crimson]

Mark Clayton chokes..how could he drop that easy catch JESUS

[Nervous Ferret]

:(

[Shadow]

The Redskins won but I still say this.

FUCK THE REDSKINS!

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Its good to know the Bengals are really still the Bungles..
And yet, they're tied for first with the "OMG SUPER BOWL CHAMPS" Ravens. Hmmm

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Steve Smith is awesome.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I want Goodell to accientally forget there is a breast cancer promotion going on and fine every player and coach in the league for a uniform violation</font>

[D Mac]

Chiefs, the next 0-16 team. :(

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Can't wait for the week 15 showdown between KC and Cleveland. Should be epic.

[ClockShot]

Cincy wins the Battle of Ohio in OT.

[D Mac]

Can't wait for the week 15 showdown between KC and Cleveland. Should be epic.

I wish I could go to that game!

not

[Supreme Olajuwon]

This game was awful. 18 punts. Thought for sure it was going to end in another tie. Announcer's were taking a bunch of shots at McNabb throughout OT.

[Nervous Ferret]

OK so Sanchez throws a 100 yard pick 6 and fumbles in the end zone. Throw in a sick Jets goal line stand and matching field goals and this is the closest 17-3 game of all-time :shifty:

[Crimson]

Sanchez will be ok because he has mexican in him

[ClockShot]

Damn Broncos, sloppy first half.

[Requiem]

I wish I could go to that game!

not

Why? The Chiefs might actually win a game. :lol:

[Team Sheep]

Woo back in it.

[OssMan]

Boller :love:

[D Mac]

Why? The Chiefs might actually win a game. :lol:

I doubt it.

Oh and.. :foc:

[Team Sheep]

Achhh Sanchez turnovers have cost us. Learning curve I guess...

[Londoner]

GREAT TOUCHDOWN FROM DENVER THERE!

[Londoner]

Amazing game.

[ClockShot]

Legend Killer goes 4-0.

This guy might have something.

[Droford]

And yet, they're tied for first with the "OMG SUPER BOWL CHAMPS" Ravens. Hmmm
Theres no way the Ravens lose to them in Baltimore on Sunday.

[Gonzo]

GGGG MEN

[DrA]

Theres no way the Ravens lose to them in Baltimore on Sunday.

You pretty much just guaranteed that they are going to win with this post.

[#1-norm-fan]

Great game. Giving Denver a short field on that fumble in the first half pissed me off so much. And then the INT on third down when we could have had a field goal. Not Romo's fault but two turnovers and both of them were HUGE. 10 point swing in a 7 point game when the defense was playing well. :nono:

[SammyG]

lol Rams

[weather vane]

PHINSSSSS

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Terrell Suggs 'bout to get fined a nice chunk of change. Dove right at Brady's knees, he does realize that rule was put in place because of Brady, right?

[SammyG]

ROFL RODNEY HARRISON AT HALF TIME

"Brady, if you're listening. Take off your skirt, and put on some slacks"

[Londoner]

how on earth is it 35-28 now?

[Splaya]

Terrell Suggs 'bout to get fined a nice chunk of change. Dove right at Brady's knees, he does realize that rule was put in place because of Brady, right?

Sorry Stimes but that call was awful

[FearedSanctity]

Marshall hugs McDaniels after his TD, and mid-press conference while reporters ask what they said to each other Marshall comes in and hugs McD again, saying he's not gonna say and neither should Brandon.

Pretty sure Marshall's getting his contract

[Gonzo]

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2:50, love to see that from Nicks after spraining his foot a couple weeks ago.

[Skippord]

god I want Brandon Marshall to get paid

[Supreme Olajuwon]

gonna get the papers, get the papers

[RP]

ROFL RODNEY HARRISON AT HALF TIME

"Brady, if you're listening. Take off your skirt, and put on some slacks"

lol

[RP]

ROFL RODNEY HARRISON AT HALF TIME

"Brady, if you're listening. Take off your skirt, and put on some slacks"

Rodney, if you're listening. Take off your HGH and put on some real muscle.

[RP]

Sorry Stimes but that call was awful

Anyone with eyes could see he was diving for Brady's knee. It was really blatant. I watched it from 3 angles. If Brady didnt pull his cleat out of the turf, he'd probably be done for the season right now. I hope the god Suggs gets fined for that because Indy plays Bmore soon and i dont want that guy trying that shit on Manning.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Suggs should already be on a short leash after that bounty stuff they were doing last year with Mendenhall's shoulder.

[parkmania]

Two or three years ago, the Steelers touted themselves as "60 Minute Men". This year they're apparently the "35-and-a-half Minute Men". Thank goodness SD's defense let us rack up so many points early.

Double thank goodness our next two games are in Detroit and then home vs. Clevland. We SHOULD be able to go into our bye week 4-2 and then hopefully get Polamalu back in time for the Broncos.

EDIT: Oops, I had the schedule wrong. We have to face the Vikes before our bye. This could get interesting to see what our record is at bye time.

[#1-norm-fan]

Anyone with eyes could see he was diving for Brady's knee. It was really blatant. I watched it from 3 angles. If Brady didnt pull his cleat out of the turf, he'd probably be done for the season right now. I hope the god Suggs gets fined for that because Indy plays Bmore soon and i dont want that guy trying that shit on Manning.

I saw the replay on Gameday last night and was going to reply how dumb the penalty was as it looked like he just fell or got pushed. Just to make sure I just went back and found the video and watched it closely. It would be pretty hard for anyone to make a case for that now. It looked pretty damn dirty.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

LOL Braylon Edwards punched out one of LeBron James' boys at a club last night. LeBron told reporters it's because Braylon is jealous of his success.

Braylon was being a bitch during the game yesterday. He got an unsportsmanlike penalty and was moping because he didn't have a catch. Was probably still bitter.

[Big Fat Mike]

LOL rams, Ravens, Rams again and then the Titans.

[CSL]

http://a323.yahoofs.com/ymg/ept_sports_nfl_experts__16/ept_sports_nfl_experts-484185555-1254756071.jpg?ymnL6_BDRnJy.YkD

[McLegend]

I am really excited for Monday night Football.

[OssMan]

http://a323.yahoofs.com/ymg/ept_sports_nfl_experts__16/ept_sports_nfl_experts-484185555-1254756071.jpg?ymnL6_BDRnJy.YkD
I don't get this

[CSL]

He apparently wrote/signed it in the away team locker room in the new Cowboys Stadium

[Triple Naitch]

Nice.

Somebody else also christened the new Cowboys Stadium.
http://deadspin.com/5370499/couple-christens-dallas-cowboys-stadiums-new-bathroom-stalls

[SammyG]

Sooooooooo stoked for the game

[OssMan]

This game is not even intriguing at all for me. I just wanna see the Vikings get their asses raped like I always do. It would be a little more interesting if it was in Green Bay.

[CSL]

N-n-n-n-n-n-nay fumblllle

[OssMan]

What the fuck was Rogers even doing trying to scramble, Ryan Grant was wide open

[OssMan]

TD FAVRE TD FAVRE TD FAVRE TD FAVRE TD FAVRE TD FAVRE TD FAVRE TD FAVRE TD FAVRE TD FAVRE TD FAVRE TD FAVRE TD FAVRE TD FAVRE TD FAVRE TD FAVRE TD FAVRE TD FAVRE TD FAVRE TD FAVRE TD FAVRE TD FAVRE

[OssMan]

LOL this is the most fucking absurd game I have ever seen

[McLegend]

Brett Favre is a stud.

[Innovator]

Looks like that dude just tore his own ACL

[SammyG]

What an awesome game. If Donald Driver continues to be non-existant, I will also win my fantasy matchup

[Innovator]

Favre going nuts so far

[CSL]

He's killing it

[SammyG]

Favre should crotch crop the Packers sideline

[Emperor Smeat]

Favre should crotch crop the Packers sideline

:lol: might give WWE the idea to have him as a host since Big Ben did it today on RAW

[DaveWadding]

Hey D-Mac, Jared Allen.

[DaveWadding]

I could probably block him better than anyone the Packers have used tonight.

[Boomer]

Favre looked stellar. Teams are going to have to start shutting down all those short high percentage dump throws though. That isn't to say that Favre wouldn't just air it out then either.

[RatedGSuperstar]

A dropped Donald Lee pass on 4th and Goal from heading into OT. Fuck. At least the final score didn't look as bad as it could've been.

Amazing that Rodgers was able to put up the stats he did considering how badly the Packers' o-line was (again). Rodgers is getting hit at a David Carr-like rate so far this year.

[Emperor Smeat]

Favre looked stellar. Teams are going to have to start shutting down all those short high percentage dump throws though. That isn't to say that Favre wouldn't just air it out then either.

The fact Vikings have Adrian Peterson probably negates the need for Farve to get Bomb pass happy since that has been his main weakness last few years.

[SammyG]

FUCK YOU Donald Driver. Beat me by 1 fantasy point.

[DAMN iNATOR]

The fact Vikings have Adrian Peterson probably negates the need for Farve to get Bomb pass happy since that has been his main weakness last few years.

Hey, the guy's got a natural knack for what he does, and if it means the difference between winning and losing, I'd rather have Favre throwing missiles downfield rather than "playing it safe".

[Skippord]

Aaron Rodgers will be sacked into the turf by the end of this season

[Skippord]

like physically through the ground

[SammyG]

You know, I hate Josh McDaniels. He's all stoked that he's 4-0. He runs the majority of the offense, right? They struggle to get fucking first downs. Marshall made that play in the end all by himself. His defense is bailing him out, and he looks like a good coach. He's not. Fuck Josh McDaniels.

[SammyG]

Like, imagine Cutler with this defense.

[Skippord]

yeah he'd throw it to triple covered Brandon Marshall all the time

[FearedSanctity]

Yeah, while Jay's big arm would be nice from time to time, I like not holding my breath every time a pass is thrown

[Skippord]

although the touchdown pass to Knoshawn yesterday was some sort of miracle

[SammyG]

God, I just hate Josh McDaniels.

[Skippord]

McDaniels has been very good for the team this season

they seem to play harder for him then I've seen in forever

[D Mac]

KC will defeat the Cowfags.

[Skippord]

and McDaniels has such a dreamy smile

[Skippord]

how bad is KC this year D-Mac?

I've only seen the Giants game

[D Mac]

Still plenty of time to turn it around. :shifty:

[Droford]

The Giants are 17 point favorites against the Raiders.

that just doesnt happen often in the NFL.

[Droford]

Also..

Rush Limbaugh is trying to buy the Rams. OMG

[DaveWadding]

Still plenty of time to turn it around. :shifty:

Jared Allen?

[SammyG]

lol Rush Limbaugh-Rams. Awesome. Only headlines the Rams are gonna make for a while, so why not.

[owenbrown]

the St. Louis Dittoheads...lol

[Skippord]

lol Rush Limbaugh-Rams. Awesome. Only headlines the Rams are gonna make for a while, so why not.
better hope they don't have to play the Eagles if that happens

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

You know, I hate Josh McDaniels. He's all stoked that he's 4-0. He runs the majority of the offense, right? They struggle to get fucking first downs. Marshall made that play in the end all by himself. His defense is bailing him out, and he looks like a good coach. He's not. Fuck Josh McDaniels.He's still the head coach, it's not like he has no hand in all other aspects of the game. He suspended Brandon Marshall and now he's out making plays like he did on Sunday. So you are saying the fact that the Broncos are 4-0 right now has nothing to do with Josh McDaniels or any of the changes he made because he calls the plays on offense? I really don't understand how you constantly say so much dumb shit about sports when you are obviously a big fan.

I was glad to see the golden boy Mark Sanchez play like shit on Sunday. Saints D looked real good.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

One more thing, has anyone ever told Tony Romo that Champ Bailey is one of the best cornerbacks in the NFL? Stop throwing at guys that Champ Bailey is covering - especially on 3rd and 4th and goal with under a minute left in the game

[DaveBrawl]

You know in a way it's kind of genius. No one expects a qb to throw at a #3 receiver being covered by one of the best db's in the sport with a game on the line. :lol:

[#1-norm-fan]

One more thing, has anyone ever told Tony Romo that Champ Bailey is one of the best cornerbacks in the NFL? Stop throwing at guys that Champ Bailey is covering - especially on 3rd and 4th and goal with under a minute left in the game

That wasn't as glaringly dumb as Jason Witten, the most reliable receiver on the team, being kept back to block on both downs. SNEAKY, SNEAKY! lol

[Droford]

Is Crabtree breaking down because the 49ers are 3-1? Id tell him to go pound sand some more if I were the 49ers.

[FearedSanctity]

One more thing, has anyone ever told Tony Romo that Champ Bailey is one of the best cornerbacks in the NFL? Stop throwing at guys that Champ Bailey is covering - especially on 3rd and 4th and goal with under a minute left in the game

Apparently Romo didn't know it was 4th down. After the last incomplete pass on 4th, he could be seen hurrying his linemen to get up and when they weren't reacting he held 3 fingers up to the ref, got mad and walked off the field. He pretty much forgot he had spiked the ball a few plays earlier

[Kris P Lettus]

I will say this again..

"Revamped Defense"

Who Dat??

[Kris P Lettus]

Really though, I am just happy we have a stout D, with alot of depth at each position, and a decent running game.. That means, as the last two weeks have proven, that Brees doesn't have to throw for 350 yards, and 4 TD's for us to win.. We have one of the most well rounded teams in the NFL..

Look out G-Men.. By the time we play y'all Bell will be back as will Bushrod so we'll have more depth on the O-Line..

Also, I find it awesome ALOT of people were saying Darren "I am always" Sharper was "over the hill" and "done" when we signed him this offseason..

Defensive player of the month, IMO..

[OssMan]

Yeah that dude is definitely the defensive player of the month after playing one game in October. This Saints team reminds me of the one that made the playoffs a few years ago but then lost and then never looked good at all until now.

[Kris P Lettus]

I meant for the four weeks of the season.. This Saints team is no where near the '06 team.. We actually have a good D and we are like 60-40 run-pass where as in previous years, it was more like 70-30 pass-run..

Pay attention to what is going on around you before making retarded statements..

[Gonzo]

Look out G-Men.. By the time we play y'all Bell will be back as will Bushrod so we'll have more depth on the O-Line..

Giants running game is going to beast that defense. The Giants air attack will also probably give you a little fit. I do fear Sharper though, when he was on the Vikings he single handedly beat the Giants one year. I'm fairly confident the Giants could compete in a shootout too, not something I would have thought at the beginning of the year.

I hope both teams are fairly healthy going in. I don't want to see any tainted victory because of some key guy missing. This game could very well play out to be a tiebreaker for the #1 seed if both teams roll.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Michael Boley out for a month. Fuck.</font>

[Kris P Lettus]

Our D is ranked 3rd against the rush..

FYI

[OssMan]

I meant for the four weeks of the season.. This Saints team is no where near the '06 team.. We actually have a good D and we are like 60-40 run-pass where as in previous years, it was more like 70-30 pass-run..

Pay attention to what is going on around you before making retarded statements..
What, shut the fuck up. You are hailing this team as the best team of all time and that your quarterback is Jesus wearing a Saints uniform. How did I even make a "retarded statement," all I said was that this year's team reminded me of another one

[Kris P Lettus]

Which was a retarded statement due to the fact that in '06 our defense was ranked in the upper teens, not in the top ten, and the fact that we are now a run first/pass second offense, which is a complete 180 from what that team you are comparing them to was..