NFL 2009 Season Thread

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Classy move by Jets fan, throwing snowballs during the play. Glad Atlanta scored.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

also crazy catch by Hartline for Miami

[Team Sheep]

Fucking shite. Just as the Falcons scored Miami got the flukiest completion too. Just not happening.

[Team Sheep]

And just as Miami score Atlanta gets an interception. Fantastic.

[owenbrown]

Titans pull it off again

[Nervous Ferret]

ugh the jets :(

[Innovator]

Sanchise

[McLegend]

Nice decision there Mike Tomlin.

[Nark Order]

The Chargers are going to the Superbowl.

[DaveBrawl]

The Raiders....really? Where was Jamarcus Russell when I need him?

[Team Sheep]

Wow Pittsburgh.

[Loose Cannon]

I need Steve Smith to have the game of his life tomorrow.

btw, Gus Johnson is the greatest announcer ever

[ClockShot]

God dammit, Denver!

Oakland? Really? And Russell wasn't even starting today!

What happened between Week 7 and now?

[ClockShot]

Also, did a little digging and found out that the Broncos/Raiders game was delayed about 10 minutes because some fans (I presume raiders fans) were pointing lasers at the Broncos offense.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

I need Steve Smith to have the game of his life tomorrow.

btw, Gus Johnson is the greatest announcer ever

My game is pretty much dependent on Double Trouble tonight... Not very excited.

[Innovator]

I've won my week with AP and Shiancoe still to go

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Glad to see the Steelers pull it out. Hopefully Green Bay chokes it up. They are a team I wouldn't mind at all seeing play well in the playoffs...but for the time being, the Giants need all the help they can get.</font>

[HeartBreakMan2k]

I had two players on IR list, so I had to play Steve Smith who I haven't really played this year :-\. Need him, or Double Trouble to pull in a combined about 28 points. It's do-able, but Carolina makes my nervous... always. I love my Panthers, they just can't put it together this year.

[RGWhat316]

Finally the Steelers win a game in the final seconds instead of losing one.

[Skippord]

Also, did a little digging and found out that the Broncos/Raiders game was delayed about 10 minutes because some fans (I presume raiders fans) were pointing lasers at the Broncos offense.
probably the weirdest delay I've ever seen in a sporting event

[McLegend]

Let's go Panthers.

[Emperor Smeat]

Panthers breaking a lot of Minnesota's tackles or Minnesota just plain getting burned on being too early with a few of them.

[RatedGSuperstar]

Dear Jarrett Bush,

Fuck off and die.

Thanks,
The State of Wisconsin

[FearedSanctity]

God dammit, Denver!

Oakland? Really? And Russell wasn't even starting today!

What happened between Week 7 and now?

Better teams played a part in the difference, but its mainly that teams now have tape of what McD likes to do. They had nothing before since he's a rookie HC, but after 7 weeks they had more than enough to figure out his incredibly simple offense (Moreno run, pass to Marshall, shitty run play, punt). Denvers O is awesome when they don't use that tired ass formula, but sadly, more often than not they do

Also, we would lose to Oakland the week that pretty much ALL the other Wildcard contenders lost :-\

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Kareem McKenzie and Corey Webster both out...fuck. Aaron Ross might miss another game as well.

If the Giants win out and the Cowboys OR Packers lose one game, the Giants hold the tie-breaker over both. That's pretty much the only positive.</font>

[CWK]

I love the Kansas City Chiefs, even though they are suckin bad this year. As far as this year goes, I am a huge Peyton Manning and Brett Favre fan, always have been, so if the Colts or the Vikings win the Super Bowl this year, I will be happy. 2 of the best quarterbacks ever, all heart and class acts all the way.

[DaveWadding]

Josh Bell is possibly the worst cornerback ever.

[Skippord]

Steve Tasker is the worst commentator ever I decided, based on the Bronco game

[RP]

Deion Sanders says the Jets will stop the Colts. Which isnt suprising because he's said the last 10 teams the Colts have played will stop the Colts.

I now present Deion getting chased down by Hunter Smith

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[#1-norm-fan]

lol. What awful coverage.

[#1-norm-fan]

<font color=goldenrod>Kareem McKenzie and Corey Webster both out...fuck. Aaron Ross might miss another game as well.

If the Giants win out and the Cowboys OR Packers lose one game, the Giants hold the tie-breaker over both. That's pretty much the only positive.</font>

Does it have to be Cowboys OR Packers? Not both? I'm not sure what the 3-way tie-breaker is but I think head to head gets thrown out. Would be pretty funny if NY needed Dallas to win and stay a game ahead of them in the last week to prevent a 3 way tie and let NY get in over GB via head to head tiebreaker. If that's the case, The Giants sweeping Dallas could actually cost them a playoff spot which would be insane.

[Evil Vito]

Does it have to be Cowboys OR Packers? Not both? I'm not sure what the 3-way tie-breaker is but I think head to head gets thrown out. Would be pretty funny if NY needed Dallas to win and stay a game ahead of them in the last week to prevent a 3 way tie and let NY get in over GB via head to head tiebreaker. If that's the case, The Giants sweeping Dallas could actually cost them a playoff spot which would be insane.

<font color=goldenrod>Giants hold all possible tie-breakers.

-vs. Cowboys: head-to-head record obviously
-vs. Packers: Giants already are guaranteed the better record in common games
-3 way tie: Division ties get broken first, which again knocks out Dallas and leaves the Giants and Packers...Giants would then get the 5 seed based on better record against common opponents</font>

[#1-norm-fan]

Nevermind. Just looked it up. It wouldn't work like that. You would need to tie with Dallas though. You don't hold the tie-breaker over Green Bay. After head to head (Giants haven't played GB) it goes to conference record. GB is 7-3, you're 5-4.

[#1-norm-fan]

http://www.nfl.com/standings/tiebreakingprocedures

Common opponents is the 3rd tie-breaker. Conference record is 2nd.

[Evil Vito]

Nevermind. Just looked it up. It wouldn't work like that. You would need to tie with Dallas though. You don't hold the tie-breaker over Green Bay. After head to head (Giants haven't played GB) it goes to conference record. GB is 7-3, you're 5-4.

<font color=goldenrod>Yeah but if the Giants and Packers are tied in the standings, they'd automatically be tied in conference record at either 7-5 or 8-4. Forgot to mention that...THEN the Giants get the common games.</font>

[#1-norm-fan]

Nevermind again. I guess if the Giants won out, they would tie in Conference record anyway. I was projecting it as if they only play 10 conference games for some reason.

[#1-norm-fan]

What you said.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Yeah. Still quite an uphill battle though, I definitely think the Cowboys or Packers will lose a game at some point...but Week 17 will almost assuredly mean something for Minnesota. Gotta hope Favre continues to crumble.

A lot of Giants fans actually think making the playoffs would just cost them a higher pick because they all assume they'll get knocked out in the first round. While I understand that, since their defense has shown no signs of improving...2007 has taught me that anything is possible.</font> :o

[Emperor Smeat]

Cowboys release kicker Nick Folk and sign the kicker Redskins released when they lost to the Saints.

[Requiem]

^lol was it the other guy who missed a 24yd FG?

wtf is wrong with them?

[OssMan]

Nick Folk who played Super Mario Bros with Joey RoxEr

[Emperor Smeat]

^lol was it the other guy who missed a 24yd FG?

wtf is wrong with them?

Yeah and was the Redskins most accurate kicker in team history but they released him for missing a kick against the Saints.

[Requiem]

Don't understand how guys like Folk can be so bad and miss so many FGs in a season. Like, that's all you get paid to do. You kick a ball. I get the miss every once in a while, or missing a really long one. Can't always be on your game or hit the ball exactly right. But when that's all you do, and all you're supposed to do, how do you fuck that up so much? And how do you fuck up such a SHORT field goal?

They showed clips of Folk in practice and he was missing kicks like crazy. Like come on.. pressure's not even on man. Don't care about Dallas at all really, but he deserved to be let go.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>GIANTS WEEK 15 INACTIVES
WR Ramses Barden
TE Darcy Johnson
OL Adam Koets
OL Kareem McKenzie
WR Sinorice Moss
CB Aaron Ross
RB D.J. Ware
CB Corey Webster

Fuck, Ross IS out. Plus Ware and Johnson as surprise inactives as well. Ugh.

LET'S GO GIANTS!!!</font>

[Emperor Smeat]

What was bad for him and Dallas wasn't so much he was missing badly during the pregame but how much wobbling the ball was moving in the air when they were inside a dome with no wind. The way the ball was moving was like he was kicking in a stadium like Green Bay or Giants/Jets stadium in middle of winter with snow/wind swirls.

[McLegend]

Good to see that the Redskins showed up tonight.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>This is insane. Been waiting to see these Giants since Week 5.</font>

[Innovator]

Steeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeve Smith

[ClockShot]

Campbell's done.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>LMFAO</font>

[Innovator]

What the fuck was that? If they ran it back, not top 10 material

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>If the Giants somehow manage to lose this...fire everybody</font> :D

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>That play might seriously be one of the worst plays in NFL history</font>

[UmbrellaCorporation]

Nothing but love for you, Shadow, but...

Oh my God. The Redskins are horrible.

[Shadow]

Hence why this year, even if they win, I say it loud and say it proud.....

FUCK THE REDSKINS!

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>"Just when you think it's safe to praise the Skins, they can't make an extra point"
-Mike Tirico</font>

[Evil Vito]

http://i50.tinypic.com/2v8fjuc.gif

[Innovator]

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Emperor Smeat]

http://i50.tinypic.com/2v8fjuc.gif

:lol: at the amount of failure from that play

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I seriously think Bruce Johnson would have returned it for an INT but was too busy laughing</font>

[El Fangel]

Im not planning on drilling him about it, but I find it hilarious Krispy has not been here in like 5 days...

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Did they try to run the swinging gate? That gif image is mad grainy

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Yeah they did...but the problem is they lined up into formation, the Giants called a timeout. But they then did it AGAIN anyway, and the Giants sent like 4 guys so the punter had no choice but to badly heave it lol</font>

[owenbrown]

http://i50.tinypic.com/2v8fjuc.gif

what the fuck was that play?

[owenbrown]

no wonder the 'Skins are shit

[Team Sheep]

Wait, I didn't see the game. What the hell was that?

[Emperor Smeat]

LOL at Jim Zorn explaining why after the timeout he decided to run the trick play again. His reasoning was he thought the play was too unique for the Giants to ruin it even though they saw the formation before calling the timeout.

He seriously had a smile on his face while explaining it like it was one of the best things he ever thought up.

[Loose Cannon]

lol leaving the punter unprotected was fucking brilliant

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>What's even funnier is that the whole point of the play is to do a screen pass to a WR and have like 6 blockers there for him.

Except in this instance...watch the kicker, he turns around expecting the screen. The fucking KICKER was the wideout in the play?</font>

[Gonzo]

Yeah, I think Zorn is just trying to fuck Snyder over.

If I was Zorn I would just resign. It is pretty evident by all the rumblings that the Skins are cleaning house that he is gone after this year. In all likelihood the Skins are going to give Mike Shanahan the nod as their next HC.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Yeah I think so. I kinda hope the team doesn't just lay down and die the last two games. Need them to play hard against Dallas.</font> :o

[OssMan]

lol at the punter getting destroyed

[FearedSanctity]

lol at the kicker being a perfect statue until he gets put in motion

[D Mac]

Looks like something Todd Haley would call.

[FearedSanctity]

And this looks like something Todd Haley would say after it failed...
http://i33.tinypic.com/vfz8eb.jpg
http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww323/halofreak20/2yo4rh1.gif

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>lol in all of my 4 leagues one of the teams in the final has Chris Johnson. I honestly think as long as you had an average team around him and made sure you didn't play anybody on their bye week, Johnson was enough to single-handedly carry your team.</font>

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I had Johnson but I lost in the semifinals :(

Could've won though because I had Braylon Edwards, Jonathan Stewart, and Joe Flacco on my bench. :'(

[Reavant]

Im not planning on drilling him about it, but I find it hilarious Krispy has not been here in like 5 days...

Krispy: "Ive been SUPER busy and havnt even been able to keep up with everything."

OR

"The loss was good for them now they are going to sweep throught he playoffs."

"Going undefeated is not that big of a deal guys. They still have reggie bush so they are the most talented and well balanced team with the best decoy ever. Who Dat!"

[Requiem]

wow at that fight last night. can't believe it only got called on the redskins. Replay showed Jacobs throw the first punch.

[Gonzo]

Anyone have a clip of the fight?

[#1-norm-fan]

Wow, I really hate Todd Haley's face. Especially after seeing those things Feared Sanctity posted.

Also, I think Krispy may have killed himself. lol. If not he really needs to post SOMETHING so that his last post isnt...

Dome Field Advantage

lol

[Shadow]

Let's say it loud and say it proud folks.....

FUCK THE REDSKINS!

[Droford]

Saints got in on the getting rid of your kicker fun by releasing John Carney but he wasn't starting anymore so I guess its not the same. Too bad the Cowboys didnt wait, they could have had Carney instead..

[FearedSanctity]

Wow, I really hate Todd Haley's face. Especially after seeing those things Feared Sanctity posted.

Who could hate a face like this?

http://i48.tinypic.com/11vs35t.gif

[#1-norm-fan]

lol. Jesus. What the fuck!?

[Kris P Lettus]

WTF

I have posted like 3 times in the past 2 months.. Nothing to do with the Saints losing, more to do with work, which oddly enough is where I was Saturday night during the game..

[Reavant]

Krispy: "Ive been SUPER busy and havnt even been able to keep up with everything."

OR

"The loss was good for them now they are going to sweep throught he playoffs."

"Going undefeated is not that big of a deal guys. They still have reggie bush so they are the most talented and well balanced team with the best decoy ever. Who Dat!"

I guess hes going with answer A

[Hanso Amore]

Work = Knocking down a quart of ice cream while watching game highlights and sobbing

[Crimson]

:lol:

[#1-norm-fan]

lol. Hanso, you're alllright. :cool:

[RP]

Rex Ryan is going to get his fat fed to him by Peyton Manning.

[McLegend]

Why, b3ecuase he said he wished PAyton Maning and th like woulkld sit out on Sunday or when ever hth hell they werer sitting puit?

[Kris P Lettus]

Pretty sweet job if you ask me..

[OssMan]

Why, b3ecuase he said he wished PAyton Maning and th like woulkld sit out on Sunday or when ever hth hell they werer sitting puit?
wht

[CSL]

Why, because he said he wished Peyton Manning and the like would sit out on Sunday or whenever the hell were sitting out/put?

[Reavant]

pineapple

[owenbrown]

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/Carolina-Panthers-Delhomme-IR-122409

Delhomme on IR for broken finger on his throwing hand

[DrA]

Well there goes Carolina's chance at getting to the Super Bowl.

[Hanso Amore]

Carolina actually gave Day Light come and I want to Delhomme a contract that is paying him 13 million next year?

What the fuck!

[OssMan]

Top 10 plays of the decade had Helmet Catch behind James Harrison's gay ass 100 yard interception return in the Superbowl... it was a great play but come on, helmet catch

[Emperor Smeat]

ESPN/Sports Nation always favors the recent plays over older plays. Same thing happened with best "storyline"/finish to a game and the Penguins-Red Wings 2009 NHL Finals took 2nd place due to fan voting.

Hated how the Steelers-Cardinals game ended with the refs not even bothering to give a flag in Harrison's push/punch of a player and review of the fumble/INT by Warner. Good game up until those moments.

[parkmania]

Hated how the Steelers-Cardinals game ended with the refs not even bothering to... review the fumble/INT by Warner. Good game up until those moments.

Tired of this arguement. Ed Ferarra, the head of officials, stated in an interview on NFL Network that the review booth had a chance to look at a replay of this during the Cards timeout and decided that it wasn't close enough to even warrant a review by the on-field officials.

And even if it was, then where was the review in the first half when Ben's hand was coming forward but was called a fumble?

[Kris P Lettus]

Top 10 plays of the decade had Helmet Catch behind James Harrison's gay ass 100 yard interception return in the Superbowl... it was a great play but come on, helmet catch


This should have been on there..

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[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>lol @ Krispy posting the version that doesn't include Carney making the entire play meaningless</font>

[OssMan]

This should have been on there..

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It was

[Reavant]

HOMMMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

[Supreme Olajuwon]

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[Nark Order]

Bolts fucking slaughtered the Titans.

[Kris P Lettus]

Just because it was followed by one of the worst plays in history doesn't make it not awesome..

[Supreme Olajuwon]

That's true but I don't see how you can even stomach watching that knowing what's coming

[Kris P Lettus]

It was like 7 years ago.. Aarron Brooks did alot worse than Carney missing a PAT..

[Kris P Lettus]

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Kyle Turley was the MAN..

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Fucking Tyree catch

[SammyG]

What a psycho. him and richie incognito have both been rams. damn.

[OssMan]

lol @ Misfits song

[Hanso Amore]

Lol Turley was a mad man but I love that he was protecting his QB like a Boss. Fuck that jet, who was that? I fucking hate the Jets.

[Nervous Ferret]

Damn @ Texans. Looks like they are the only team in this AFC mess who actually want to go to the playoffs. Go figure

[Gonzo]

Yeah that was a scumbag move by that NY Jet on that play. Good for Turley jacking him up.

[Crimson]

WOOO Giants goin down with a bang. :naughty:

Cowboys better beat the Skins later and take care of business:rant:

[Gonzo]

At this point I don't even care about the Giants. It is fucking pathetic. One week, they come out and stomp the shit out of their opponent, the next, they're the ones getting stomped out. Even if they made the playoffs they would be one and done, and what is the fucking point of that?

I hope they make some changes in the offseason. They need to get rid of the dead weight on the roster and shake up the coordinator positions.

[owenbrown]

let's call the AFC playoff picture what it is....a clusterfuck

[ClockShot]

Broncos gotta win out these last 2 games.

I'm picturing McDevil on a witness stand on the 50 yard line in Denver in front of thousands if he doesn't.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Bengals offense is pretty terrible. Can't score against the Chefs when it's first and goal after a botched punt.

[FearedSanctity]

Broncos gotta win out these last 2 games.

Not really, wins by IND(NYJ), NE(JAC), BAL (@PIT) in week 16 will allow Denver in as the 6th seed with EITHER a win over Philly or KC. There are a few others for the 6th seed and even the 5th seed, but this one is the easiest.

There's also a way in for Denver at 8-8, which is losses by JAC(NE), NYJ(IND), MIA(HOU) in week 16. And for week 17 we'd need losses by JAC(@CLE) and HOU(NE). We'd also we'd losses in either week by PIT(BAL, @MIA) and NYJ(@IND, CIN)

[ClockShot]

I'm more happy sitting 10-6 than breaking even for the 2nd straight year and getting screwed again thank you very much.

[FearedSanctity]

I'm more happy just being in the playoffs after expecting a 5-11 season. A 9-7 6th seed is the same as a 10-6 6th seed.

[Dragon]

Man, what an embarassing game for the Giants. Pretty terrible effort.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

championsssssssssss

[Team Sheep]

Lol Saints. They're definitely losing their division round game.

[Nervous Ferret]

lol@ Saints. They really have played like shit the last few weeks. Classic case of a team peaking too early

[owenbrown]

what the fuck, Saints?

[Heros Welcome]

Dirty Birds WIN! Aints lose to the BUCS! Great Christmas present!

[Nervous Ferret]

Dolphins, Ravens and Jags all losers. Jetssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

[owenbrown]

lol Seahawks got killed

[Team Sheep]

lol@ Saints. They really have played like shit the last few weeks. Classic case of a team peaking too early

There's always one.

Last year - Giants.
2007 - Patriots
2006 - Chargers
2005 - Colts

etc...

NFL :heart:

[SammyG]

game hasn't even had any scores yet but lol Rams

[SammyG]

also lol @ Kris P neg repping me for calling Turley a psycho.

[Nervous Ferret]

The Jets seriously control their own playoff destiny. It is unreal how fucked this wild card race is. Last week the Jets were the second team out of the playoffs, and then they lost to the Falcons. Now they are in if they win out. I am sure they won't because they are the Jets. But the idea of playing the Bengals next week and then again in the wild card round is pretty kewl :cool::cool::cool:

[Team Sheep]

If the Jets won last week they'd be sitting in a wild card spot right now :|

[Team Sheep]

Also, Chargers vs Eagles Super Bowl.

[SammyG]

I also think that's what's gonna happen.

[Nervous Ferret]

jets :(

I don't think the Chargers will make it. I think they are going to be the gay trendy pick and everyone will be "shocked" when they lose. Also I hate the gay ass Patriots but they would go back to the Superbowl this year. Still thinking Colts/Eagles or Colts/Cardinals though. I am almost expecting the Cardinals to "turn some heads" again in the playoffs.

[Team Sheep]

Yeah I was gonna say too that I wouldn't be at all surprised to see something like Patriots vs Cardinals. They're just teams that can 'turn it on' when they want to.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Weird the Patriots win the AFC East again, good thing Matt Cassell was the QB last year to give some other teams a chance

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Dunno whats gonna happen but the Patriots just fucking crushed the Jaguars, so I am feeling pretty good about that

[RoXer]

Wheres all this Cardinal love coming from?

Where was it 5 years ago?

[RoXer]

Oh yeah it was JUST ME

[DaveWadding]

hey, at least they won the NFC West this year.

[Reavant]

just solidified a championship in the tpww fantasy league! Hail to the King baby.

[Crimson]

I've been calling Saints/Chargers for 3 weeks. I'll stick to it but Chargers have been so hot for so long they're due for a loss:-\

[owenbrown]

106 yard kickoff return?! get the fuck out of here

[Nervous Ferret]

Well Curtis Painter is in. The Jets are only down 5 and have moved the ball well there last 3 possessions. MAKE it or BREAK it for the gay ass Jets

[RatedGSuperstar]

The Packers are looking very solid heading into the playoffs. Kind of dumb that they'll likely have to play the Cards two weeks in a row, though -- looks like next week's game is basically going to be a preseason game for both teams.

[FearedSanctity]

Chrsit, how long is Denver gonna have to pay for that fucking Hochuli call?

[Nervous Ferret]

Damn Packers completely slipped my mind. They have as good a shot as any to come out of the NFC.

Any chance the Bengals play Jordan Palmer next week? :shifty:

[Loose Cannon]

can't watch the rest of this. I've shut all TV's off

[McLegend]

I don't like this game.

[FearedSanctity]

Neither do I

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

J E T S JETS JETS JETS!!!!!!!

[McLegend]

Good Lord #5 lets not suck next time you go out there.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

TOUCHDOWN JETS! TOUCHDOWN JETS! REX RYAN IS A GENIUS!!!!!!!

[Kris P Lettus]

Saints are still gonna win the Super Bowl..

[Team Sheep]

J! E! T! S! JETS JETS JETS!

I don't care if Painter is playing this is amazing!!

[owenbrown]

FUCK THE '72 DOLPHINS!

[Jeritron]

Yes! Thank you Jets

[Jeritron]

^ Pats fan

[RP]

Gutless Colts

[RP]

I hope we lost to the Jets in the playoffs.

[Team Sheep]

Wasn't looking forward to this weekend's games at all after the gut-wrenching loss to Atlanta last week, it's all back on now :cool:

[DrA]

The fuck are the Colts doing

[DrA]

I think teams should be pentalized for deliberately resting their starters. They have to go back three spots in the draft or something.

[RP]

they layed down. Undefeated is to big for them. They arent the Patriots by any stretch of the imagination.

Gutless coach, gutless VP = gutless football team.

No other way to spin it really. Look at the teams faces. This team is not going to the Superbowl now.

[Emperor Smeat]

If your going to rest players, better to do it as an away team than home team since your basically making your fans pissed off at the team (unless its last game of the season and it happens to be a home game in the NFL).

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

MCDANIELS COMES TO NEW ENGLAND ROUND 111111111111

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_UJKHQG1xMDk/StQT3i24rtI/AAAAAAAAAHM/9qvXTgTzu6w/s400/300h.jpg

[Emperor Smeat]

:lol:

[RP]

This decade can be summed up pretty much like this. The difference between New England and Indianapolis... New England has balls.

[McLegend]

God damnit I really hate this game.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Jets still had to get 2 non-offensive TDs to win lol

[Kris P Lettus]

I just hope all our starters are healed up by the playoffs and that we win next week or Minn loses..

[McLegend]

What a poorly reffed game.

The Refs are rattled.

[Kris P Lettus]

Hartley should hang out with Akers..

:wavesad:

[McLegend]

Did not deserve to win that game. I'll take that though

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Wow, fucking terrible game to go to. I used to have a great track record at Giants games...now, I think my record is around .500

While I can never actually root for the Cowboys, I wouldn't be sad at all if they won tonight and officially ended the Giants' season. They would clearly be a one-and-done team and just screw themselves out of a higher draft selection if they somehow got in anyway.

Sheridan and Gilbride both HAVE to be gone next year. I kinda have a feeling Gilbride is gonna wind up staying though and they'll use Eli's career year as justification despite the fact that a shitload of his yards came in games where the Giants were routed and the opposing D started coasting.

Three games...Arizona, San Diego, and Philly 2 weeks ago. All three of those games were lost on a couple of mistakes/bad calls/whatever and they should have all easily been wins. They win those, and they are already locked into the playoffs. As such, they are gonna probably finish at 8-8 and have a lot of work to do, mainly on the defensive side of the ball. The offense has the necessary talent, just shitty playcalling.

Appropriate way to wrap up the 2009 calendar year...an absolutely terrible year in sports for me across the board.</font>

[Loose Cannon]

wow, Jets have the top wild card spot all of a sudden. last week, I wanted to run my fist through a windshield and now this

[Big Fat Mike]

<font color=goldenrod>Wow, fucking terrible game to go to. I used to have a great track record at Giants games...now, I think my record is around .500

While I can never actually root for the Cowboys, I wouldn't be sad at all if they won tonight and officially ended the Giants' season. They would clearly be a one-and-done team and just screw themselves out of a higher draft selection if they somehow got in anyway.

Sheridan and Gilbride both HAVE to be gone next year. I kinda have a feeling Gilbride is gonna wind up staying though and they'll use Eli's career year as justification despite the fact that a shitload of his yards came in games where the Giants were routed and the opposing D started coasting.

Three games...Arizona, San Diego, and Philly 2 weeks ago. All three of those games were lost on a couple of mistakes/bad calls/whatever and they should have all easily been wins. They win those, and they are already locked into the playoffs. As such, they are gonna probably finish at 8-8 and have a lot of work to do, mainly on the defensive side of the ball. The offense has the necessary talent, just shitty playcalling.

Appropriate way to wrap up the 2009 calendar year...an absolutely terrible year in sports for me across the board.</font>

Bill Sheridan can hardly be blamed for injuries and poor tackling along with missed assignments.

[Loose Cannon]

RP, I would of sat Manning as well. Jets have one of the best D's in the league and you don't want some bullshit injury happening to Manning. They've clinched what they needed to

[Skippord]

I'd like to thank Jim Caldwell for the assistance in keeping the Broncos from the playoffs

[Droford]

All the Ravens need to do is win @ Oakland and they're in as the 5th Seed Wild Card and play the Bengals no matter what anyone else does.

[Triple A]

Ugh @ the Colts

Peyton Manning doesn't get injured. He will never be injured in his life.

Feel angry that they just "gave up" and kinda lost on purpose.

Makes the win also feel really hollow, but whatever.

What a fucking stupid thing. Feels like they are all going to go into a downward spiral now instead of being ultra confident. They are going to feel like they are awful and the only reason they are good is because of Peyton Manning, which is probably true but now a bunch of players are probably all doubting themselves. GOOD JOB

[Evil Vito]

Bill Sheridan can hardly be blamed for injuries and poor tackling along with missed assignments.

<font color=goldenrod>Injuries aren't a valid excuse since guys who were injured at the beginning of the year all wound up taking the field, and it didn't make a single difference who was there and who wasn't.

I think Sheridan makes a lot of retarded coverage calls tbh. Nothing like having Michael Boley covering DeSean Jackson at some points the other week.</font>

[Team Sheep]

Jets love ruining streaks.

Tennessee last year and now this :p

[McLegend]

http://www.mocksession.com/30fps/%20/PREMATURE.gif

[Loose Cannon]

Ugh @ the Colts

Peyton Manning doesn't get injured. He will never be injured in his life.

Feel angry that they just "gave up" and kinda lost on purpose.

Makes the win also feel really hollow, but whatever.

What a fucking stupid thing. Feels like they are all going to go into a downward spiral now instead of being ultra confident. Everyone on the team is going to feel like they are awful and the only reason they are good is because of Peyton Manning, which is probably true but now all the players probably feel it really strongly and are all doubting themselves. GOOD JOB

what the fuck is wrong with you

[Emperor Smeat]

http://www.mocksession.com/30fps/%20/PREMATURE.gif

:lol: the clueless reaction of everyone around him when he says no is amazing. None of them are looking at the field and just repeat him saying "no" like a question.

[Kris P Lettus]

http://www.mocksession.com/30fps/%20/PREMATURE.gif

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n170/zackt_35/saintsreportav.gif

[FearedSanctity]

According to the NFL, Denver is currently the 5th seed due to tiebreakers between NYJ/DEN/BAL with the Jets at the 6th.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8147d1c0&template=no-right-rail-with-comments&confirm=true

[parkmania]

OK, so it looks like the Yahoo playoff scenario generator is broken - they have the Jets NOT making it in with a win next week unless PIT, HOU, and DEN all lose.

[FearedSanctity]

Yeah I was using that before, but I don't think it takes into account tiebreakers past conference record, and a Jets/Broncos/Ravens tie would go to the next step, common opponents

[ClockShot]

Surprised Denver hung with the Eagles today. Not bad, but I hear it was poorly reffed game. So.......

[Requiem]

Not overly disappointed. Obviously wanted a 16-0 season, but it wasn't like the "Jets beat the Colts". It was more like the "Jets beat the Colts' third string", or at least that was how it felt. Manning obviously wanted to play, but oh well.

Definitely not feeling all this hatred toward Caldwell. He showed that he was telling the truth all along - They did not care about stats or records. Only about winning the Super Bowl.

I am disappointed with the loss, sure. But to me it just solidified their post-season. It shows that they are looking forward.

[Crimson]

That yahoo playoff generator is cool as heck lol.

[Crimson]

I hope the Steelers get in and go into New england . And Ravens /Bengals..

I think Packers will upset any team they play in the 1st round even the Eagles.

Cowboys HAVE to get ovet the hump sometime too, but not sure this year not with that fat humpty as their coach.

[Requiem]

Also, the postgame report had Manning saying they had discussed it before the game, and he was aware that the decision might be made during the game.

[OssMan]

Not overly disappointed. Obviously wanted a 16-0 season, but it wasn't like the "Jets beat the Colts". It was more like the "Jets beat the Colts' third string", or at least that was how it felt. Manning obviously wanted to play, but oh well.

Definitely not feeling all this hatred toward Caldwell. He showed that he was telling the truth all along - They did not care about stats or records. Only about winning the Super Bowl.

I am disappointed with the loss, sure. But to me it just solidified their post-season. It shows that they are looking forward.
Serious question since when do you like the Colts. I have never seen you post about the NFL at all except maybe about the Jaguars one or two times prior to this year, or maybe that was El Fregadero. Kinda like Fallen Angel how you just randomly jumped on the bandwagon, even though you will deny that you jumped on the bandwagon. Also why don't you like the Jaguars

[Heros Welcome]

After turning down chances to return to the NFL in previous offseasons, former Pittsburgh Steelers coach Bill Cowher is primed to get back in the game this time.

Those who know Cowher firmly believe that he plans to coach in 2010, according to two league sources. He is laying the groundwork, making calls to piece together a coaching staff and acting like a man who will be patrolling the sidelines once again next season.





Many around the league have expected Cowher's name to surface in connection to the Carolina job, and it might. But others also believe that a more likely landing spot might be the Panthers' division rival Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

Over the past year, Tampa Bay has undergone more changes than any NFL team. More are coming. At the very least, associate head coach/special teams coach Rich Bisaccia is expected to leave the staff. He's widely considered to be on his way to join the University of Tennessee coaching staff, but could also get looks as a college head coach.

Defensive line coach Robert Nunn and defensive backs coach Joe Baker were part of the Jim Bates package, and will not return.

And now there is an increasing sentiment within the Buccaneers' organization that head coach Raheem Morris will be one-and-done. Two weeks ago, CBS announcer Rich Gannon criticized the way Buccaneers' practices are run, the latest example of the job being too big for Morris right now.



If the Buccaneers decide to part ways with Morris as well, multiple people around the league think Tampa Bay will wind up making a run at Cowher.

League sources labeled as erroneous any speculation that the Glazer family, which owns the Bucs, may be too financially strapped to pursue Cowher. One source added that Joel Glazer, one of the team's owners, recently has expressed strong admiration for Cowher to other owners.

Additionally, those who know the Glazer family noted that they are always prepared to do the dramatic, citing the firing of Tony Dungy and the acquisition of then-Raiders coach Jon Gruden, Dungy's successor, in which the Bucs sent multiple draft picks, including two first-rounders, and $8 million cash to Oakland.

[Crimson]

And it's pretty much a lock it'll be Cowboys/Eagles and Packers/Cards.

Should be interesting to see what happens in the Philly/Dallas game next week . If the cowboys win that means they will sweep the Eagles and will have to beat them yet AGAIN. Kinda hard to see them beating the Eagles 3 straight in a season:-\.

But if they lose then they go into hostile Philly for the playoff game.Damn gonna be tough:|. All assuming they beat the Skins today of course.

[Big Fat Mike]

Maybe Cowher can coach the Giants

[Requiem]

@Assman - I have said a few times this season that I just got into football.

I always hated sports, but after watching the tail end of last season I started to get into it. Don't consider myself a 'bandwagon jumper' because I did not just suddenly decide mid-season that I liked the Colts. It was a conscious decision before the pre-season even started.

DS and I made the decision to look at some football teams we might be interested in following based on their players and what we liked about them. My experience with football has pretty much been restricted to Super Bowls and random highlights here and there, so I really didn't know much about it at the time, or anything about records or stats.

The Colts were one of the few teams he and I both agreed we liked and would enjoy watching. We liked their players, the way they played, and figured that with them getting a new coach this season it would be a good time to start following them. It just so happened that our decision was solidified by an amazing performance this season.

El Fregadero was the Jaguars fan. He was from Jacksonville. That was actually the main reason for my disliking of the Jaguars. More or less 'rivalry' between friends.

Pretty much became obsessed with football building up to the start of the season, to where I was always reading about it. Now I can't get enough.

Really "Have to start somewhere", and I would still be a Colts fan even if they had not done so spectacular this season. Don't consider myself a bandwagon jumper because I am not someone who only liked the Colts because they didn't lose, and I will not suddenly stop being a Colts fan if they do bad. If they go one and done in the playoffs, I will be pretty disappointed, but I will be here cheering for them next season all the same.

[Requiem]

Like, my family has never been into football, and my dad has never really followed a team. He pretty much just roots for whatever team he thinks should win in whatever game is going on. I am from California, but I live in MO, so I never felt an 'obligation' to be a Chiefs fan. My friends are mostly Chiefs fans, and I just never felt like I had to pick a team based on where I lived, or whatever.

[Kris P Lettus]

I really. really hope Cower doesn't go to the Bucs..

:(

[Nark Order]

Chargers/Saints Superbowl.

[Kris P Lettus]

I am hoping for a Bengals/Saints SB just cause that's like the biggest underdog fight of all time..

[VonErichLives]

Wow... yeah, me and RP agreeing, how rare...

I don't blame Caldwell, I think this came from Polian, because this has been team policy when Dungy coached... Did they year the won it all, the only year they didn't rest players? haven't they been upset everytime they rest players?

I'm ok with taking Manning out, but not then... 1 more drive, score a TD, be up 12pts and run off the clock a bit more...

Also, leave in your defense...

ugh... I'm not a Colts fan, but anything to shut up mercury morris.

I still think the Colts are the "team to beat" but I really think both leagues are a lot closer then I thought... I really thought the Saints were the team, but the Cowboys made their OL look like swiss cheese....

Pats looked great today, with a lot defensive injuries but against a team that isn't that good.

Positives they shut down one of the best RB in the league. Brady looked liked the 2007 Brady... the duck move under a defender was great.

Seeing Morris and Taylor run the ball was good, gives up 3 RB (if Maroney can hold onto the ball).

[VonErichLives]

I am hoping for a Bengals/Saints SB just cause that's like the biggest underdog fight of all time..

you mean because of the Bengals?

Because the Saints have clearly demonstrated one of the best teams in the league, so there's no way to call them an underdog.

It's like Harrison in '04 and '07 saying "no one shows us any respect...."

yeah, you can't play the underdog card when you're the top team in the league.

[Loose Cannon]

Not overly disappointed. Obviously wanted a 16-0 season, but it wasn't like the "Jets beat the Colts". It was more like the "Jets beat the Colts' third string", or at least that was how it felt. Manning obviously wanted to play, but oh well.

Definitely not feeling all this hatred toward Caldwell. He showed that he was telling the truth all along - They did not care about stats or records. Only about winning the Super Bowl.

I am disappointed with the loss, sure. But to me it just solidified their post-season. It shows that they are looking forward.

dude, Manning was in until 5:00 to go in the 3rd quarter. And did all their starters not play or something? It was definately there for the Colts to put the Jets away early.

[VonErichLives]

Dude... they were up 5, they should have stayed in, it's a shot at history, only 2 teams have had a undefeated regular season, only 1 team 16-0, only 1 team undefeated full season.

They had a shot to be the only un defeated 19-0 team.

They should have left Manning in. Comparing the drop off at any other position to Manning is just silly.

[Loose Cannon]

wtf, why are you arguing with me? talk to Jim Caldwell about that. my only point was the Colts had Manning for 2 and a half quarters and could of easily put the Jets away in that time

[OssMan]

"@il duce" I just never understood "I don't have a team, so I'll just pick one that seems cool" mentality. I live right outside of DC and I root for the Giants, but that is just because my dad grew up in New York and rooted for them and that is how I was raised. Same for baseball with the Mets. But when I started getting into hockey and the NBA I just rooted for Washington teams because it's not like I was "raised" on those sports and I had no predisposition to like any particular team. It just makes sense to root for the home team because you can watch the games and go to them and stuff. It sucks rooting for out of town teams because they are never on TV.

[VonErichLives]

and my point was he should have been in longer and was taken out too early and at the wrong time.

[Loose Cannon]

ok great

[Emperor Smeat]

Ignoring all the injuries the Colts have had coming into the game (and the fact Freeney came back for this game), Jets were holding the Colts to just 15 points by the time Manning got taken out. Can't really blame the backup for the 1st turnover since the O-Line did nothing and let the free defender get the blindside hit to cause a turnover.

After that Colts basically fell apart and didn't adjust. They could have went to a run game to put less pressure on their backup QB but refused.

[Requiem]

The 106yd return happened, and Manning responded with a TD. A much needed 2-point conversion failed, and then Manning was taken out of the game.

Painter started by immediately getting shut down. Colts D stopped the Jets on their next attempt. Painter starts off the next series by fumbling and giving up a TD.

The game turned around so quickly that it didn't really matter what happened before. Perhaps if Manning had played the next series, a score might have happened. But what's to say Painter wouldn't have choked all the same in the 4th?

Manning, Wayne, Clark, and Addai were benched. But really, you can't bench them and not Manning, because the line might fall apart without good weapons to turn to, and then Manning might get injured.

[Droford]

The Colts lose next week to Buffalo (HA HA) and ride a 2 game losing streak into the playoffs just like the Saints who will likely be riding a 3 game losing streak after losing to Carolina. Both teams will be 1 and out in the 2nd round of the playoffs. BOOK IT

If Baltimore can't make it somehow, I like SD/Philly SB

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Out of all the possible SB matchups, I'd most like to see Cincy/Green Bay. Can't see it happening though. Wouldn't mind seeing the Cards make it and give it another try.</font>

[Crimson]

:|

Highly doubt both Saints and Colts go 1 and done, but you never know.

[Requiem]

"@il duce" I just never understood "I don't have a team, so I'll just pick one that seems cool" mentality. I live right outside of DC and I root for the Giants, but that is just because my dad grew up in New York and rooted for them and that is how I was raised. Same for baseball with the Mets. But when I started getting into hockey and the NBA I just rooted for Washington teams because it's not like I was "raised" on those sports and I had no predisposition to like any particular team. It just makes sense to root for the home team because you can watch the games and go to them and stuff. It sucks rooting for out of town teams because they are never on TV.

Why is "I'll pick a team that I think I will like" any worse than picking a team that you don't know anything about or care about just because they are local? Seems like a dumb reason to like a team, because it doesn't have anything to do with the team itself.

I get rooting for a team because that's what your dad cheered for or whatever when you were growing up. That is just getting started when you are young, and following the same team your whole life.

I have never rooted for a team though. Everyone around here is a Chiefs fan, and I did not want to follow a team based on the fact that they are my 'state' team or whatever. That's cool if that's what you want to do, but I don't base my sports loyalty on where I live, especially when I'm not from here and don't plan on being here my whole life.

Indianapolis isn't that much farther than KC anyways from here. Twice the drive, but still only a 1 day trip. If I am really going to go to a football game, then I don't mind driving an extra 3-4 hours to see a team I -want- to see rather than a team that's "close".

[Droford]

:|

Highly doubt both Saints and Colts go 1 and done, but you never know.

Its the proverbial "you can't flip a switch and turn it off an on just like that" deal. The Saints especially since I really can see them losing to the Panthers..no way they can ride a 3 game losing streak into the playoffs and win their first game off the bye. They'll get beat by whoever wins the WC round matchup which will likely have way more momentum going into that game. The Colts will likely be in the same situation, especially if they find some way to lose to Buffalo...and I mean, whats the point of playing any starters vs Buffalo now...Indy Backups could very well lose to Buffalo..

[OssMan]

Why is "I'll pick a team that I think I will like" any worse than picking a team that you don't know anything about or care about just because they are local? Seems like a dumb reason to like a team, because it doesn't have anything to do with the team itself.

I get rooting for a team because that's what your dad cheered for or whatever when you were growing up. That is just getting started when you are young, and following the same team your whole life.

I have never rooted for a team though. Everyone around here is a Chiefs fan, and I did not want to follow a team based on the fact that they are my 'state' team or whatever. That's cool if that's what you want to do, but I don't base my sports loyalty on where I live, especially when I'm not from here and don't plan on being here my whole life.

Indianapolis isn't that much farther than KC anyways from here. Twice the drive, but still only a 1 day trip. If I am really going to go to a football game, then I don't mind driving an extra 3 hours to see a team I -want- to see rather than a team that's "close".
It's not just blindly picking a team based on location though. You root for them because it's most logical. You will see their games, you will get their news, you will be able to buy their merchandise, and other people will be talking about them. I get that if you weren't into sports and started hating the local team because all the fans were huge dickheads about them but you don't really seem to have a problem with your local team.

I dunno. It's not like I "plan" on being in DC my whole life, not that I would really have a problem with it but it would legitimately be hard for me to leave behind the sports teams here that I love. It's sorta like I feel a "bond" with everyone around here who loves the Caps. Part of that is because they are awesome right now and if they start sucking people will stop caring about them because DC is not a hockey "town," but it feels good to be surrounded by fans of the same team.

[OssMan]

lol Redskins getting shut out wow

[Requiem]

Yeah, see that doesn't bother me. I see the Colts play on the NFL Redzone channel, and on ESPN when they play monday nights, or on regular channels when they're on Sunday night games. I am online way more than I watch TV, so I get plenty of news and RSS feeds about the Colts. And I do 99% of my shopping online, so I can get Colts gear whenever I want.

If I had been a KC fan growing up around other KC fans, I'd probably have the same outlook on things, so I get what you are saying for sure. I don't hate KC by any means, but I certainly don't like their team or feel 'connected' to other Chiefs fans. DS being a fan of the Colts with me is enough for me.

[Loose Cannon]

you're going to get shit about that all the time because you picked one of the top two teams in the league as your favorite team. I am not sure how much that weighed in your decision.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Damn, the talk now is that Osi Umenyiora will be one of the first guys on the cutting room floor.

Damn. :-\ Just makes me feel crappy if that happens, I loved Osi</font>

[SammyG]

Shit, why are u cutting him? I would love to have him.

[Requiem]

you're going to get shit about that all the time because you picked one of the top two teams in the league as your favorite team. I am not sure how much that weighed in your decision.

Yeah. I knew the Colts were a consistently good team, seeing as I knew who Peyton Manning was. But I honestly had no idea they were this good.

But, I really like the class they have as a team. They are confident, but not cocky. The players are talented, but don't seem to brag. That's just what I like now that I have watched them play for the season. I know the playoffs still have to come, and that's what really matters, but I really like the overall quality of the team.

[Requiem]

I will deal with the 'shit', because at this point, I don't think I could ever love another football team. The chemistry these guys have is just fun to watch.

[OssMan]

Didn't they give Umenyiora an extension through 2013????? Why would they cut him

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Cause he's making a ton of money and today made it pretty clear that he's not happy about not being on the field.

Me, I think it'd be a retarded move...down years happen.</font>

[Emperor Smeat]

Sounds more like they are trying to find a scapegoat or scapegoats for why they struggled or were inconsistent this year without blaming the coach or QB/star player that other teams would have done.

[CSL]

Better fucking not cut him, that'll make my other Giants jersey 'out of date' too

[Gonzo]

I think the issue lies more with coaching than anything else. Sheridan is definitely not Spags and that is evident. I know that the Giants have had a few key injuries on defense, but overall the personnel has largely been the same as last year and Sheridan hasn't gotten it done. Remember the story out of training camp that Osi and Sheridan got into it? Who knows what else has gone on behind the scenes with that situation, and if the coaches perceive Osi as half-assing his level of play?

To be honest, I don't want to see Osi get cut, but if he does get cut I think the Giants are fine defensively. I wouldn't cut him, if they want to move him, trade him. Tuck is the definitive starter at one DE spot, and I think if Osi stays, Kiwi goes soon because Kiwi is good enough to start on the majority of NFL teams.

[Gonzo]

Sounds more like they are trying to find a scapegoat or scapegoats for why they struggled or were inconsistent this year without blaming the coach or QB/star player that other teams would have done.

I don't think you can blame Manning, he has had some bad games but overall is having a great year, personally. I think Coughlin is the right man for the job, I don't think Sheridan is as far as the DC position is concerned.

[Emperor Smeat]

Yeah didn't imply it was Manning's or Coughlin's fault since most teams that struggled would start with blaming a coach or their star player as the main reason when it could have been the GMs fault or owners fault (ex Redskins) or team lacks the spirit to win (ex Raiders for years).

[Shadow]

So instead of a professional football team Snyder signed a JV football team tonight eh?

FUCK THE REDSKINS!

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Haven't been keeping up with this thread recently so forgive me if I'm repeating


There are seven teams still in contention for the wild card in the AFC. That's fucking crazy.

Pittsburgh better not fucking back door into the playoffs

[dablackguy]

Haven't been keeping up with this thread recently so forgive me if I'm repeating


There are seven teams still in contention for the wild card in the AFC. That's fucking crazy.

Pittsburgh better not fucking back door into the playoffs

They'd need a ton of help, mainly from Oakland to do it

[Team Sheep]

Bengals vs Jets is on Sunday Night Football next week. Talk about pressure! Will be a hell of a spectacle though, can't fucking wait.

[Loose Cannon]

classic Jets right here

[#1-norm-fan]

Haven't been keeping up with this thread recently so forgive me if I'm repeating


There are seven teams still in contention for the wild card in the AFC. That's fucking crazy.

Pittsburgh better not fucking back door into the playoffs

Yeah. 11 out of 16 teams in the AFC are still alive with ONE week left to go. And one was just now eliminated from contention this week.

Also, if Minnesota can win out then it looks like both Green Bay and Arizona and Philly and Dallas will be playing in Week 17 AND THEN playing the Wild Card games. Crazy. Like a total NFC Wild Card round preview in week 17.

I'm almost positive that whoever wins the Philly/Dallas game next week will lose the following week though. It's gonna make a bizarre feeling watching that game. I know some part of me is going to actually be rooting for Philly to take the NFC East.

[#1-norm-fan]

Wow. Looking at the playoff generator again, it's actually possible for all four wild card games to take place in week 17.

Dallas/Philly, Arizona/Green Bay, Cincy/Jets, Houston/New England.

This is a crazy fucking season...