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VEL you act like this is a personal attack. I simply stated that the Commissioner told a Senator that they illegally taped teams since Bellechik was the coach. Now i dont know what was a rule or when it was rule, but if the commish is telling a Senator that, then something more happend. And i highly dispute your claim that a Senator is lying because he's a dissapointed fan of another team. Thats rediculous. Obviously either the Commish worded things wrong, or there was alot more cheating then there is being let on. You can take your shots at me all you want, but it is what it is.
El Fangel
02-16-2008, 03:53 AM
I have one thing to say, which I say to all Patriots fans.
E-LI MANN-ING
*Clap Clap Clap Clap Clap*
E-LI MANN-ING
*Clap Clap Clap Clap Clap*
El Fangel
02-16-2008, 03:54 AM
Who has that Brady "Epiphany" Caption BTW?
El Fangel
02-16-2008, 04:04 AM
Thought that was you, repping you for that :)
VonErichLives
02-16-2008, 06:49 AM
See RP, you just like to change the rules to fit your arguments.
When it was reported a few years ago the Polian made a comment about wanting Fluties leg broken in a game, and there were multiple reports "it's not true, boston media made it up", and when it was reported that Polian grabbed a Jets staff member by the shirt and put him against the wall over speaker placement "didn't happen, your just making stuff up"
But now, even though you were not there, you are 100% certain that Goodall told Spectar that the Patriots illegal video taped since 2000? That's just silly. You know it wasn't a rule, the fact that you wont even acknowledge Stimas scenario that Goodall said it's been going on since 2000 and Specter assumed it was illegal the whole time shows how biased you are.
Of course this is because Spectar is an Eagles fan, that's why it all started he's said so already "I started thinking about it the week before the Patriots played the Eagles this season and wondered if it might have effected the out come of the super bowl they played in"
But hey, no one ever wins a discussion with you because you change the rules to fit your needs or you just go away... so do either one, I really don't care, the FACT is there was no rule before the 2007 season, so hence there could be no rule broken.
Giants win - seasons over.
See RP, you just like to change the rules to fit your arguments.
When it was reported a few years ago the Polian made a comment about wanting Fluties leg broken in a game, and there were multiple reports "it's not true, boston media made it up", and when it was reported that Polian grabbed a Jets staff member by the shirt and put him against the wall over speaker placement "didn't happen, your just making stuff up"
But now, even though you were not there, you are 100% certain that Goodall told Spectar that the Patriots illegal video taped since 2000? That's just silly. You know it wasn't a rule, the fact that you wont even acknowledge Stimas scenario that Goodall said it's been going on since 2000 and Specter assumed it was illegal the whole time shows how biased you are.
Of course this is because Spectar is an Eagles fan, that's why it all started he's said so already "I started thinking about it the week before the Patriots played the Eagles this season and wondered if it might have effected the out come of the super bowl they played in"
But hey, no one ever wins a discussion with you because you change the rules to fit your needs or you just go away... so do either one, I really don't care, the FACT is there was no rule before the 2007 season, so hence there could be no rule broken.
Giants win - seasons over.
lol amazing
SammyG
02-16-2008, 01:36 PM
CONEBONE, CHARGERS BEAT THE COLTS LOLZ
SammyG
02-16-2008, 02:22 PM
YYYAAAHHHH
VonErichLives
02-16-2008, 04:08 PM
CONEBONE, CHARGERS BEAT THE COLTS LOLZ
Used to give you a lot more credit then that... :roll:
rofl
Assman and Gonzo, do you have one yet...
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Jesus Shuttlesworth
02-16-2008, 04:49 PM
I dunno, I still think there is some grey area inregards to exactly what Goodell told Specter. How could the taping be illegal before this season? I didn't think there was rule...Goodell could have just told Specter said that the Patriots have tapes dating back to 2000, which Specter assumes are illegal. I think that is a totally reasonable thing to think and that isn't calling Specter a liar. Unless I am completely mistaken and there was a rule before this, but I coulda sworn this only all came out this year because the NFL was really putting an emphasis on it?HELLO?
You guys are morons.
Whats not cut and dry about this qoute?
"Bill Belichick has been illegally taping opponents' defensive signals since he became the New England Patriots' coach in 2000, according to Sen. Arlen Specter, who said NFL commissioner Roger Goodell told him that during a meeting Wednesday."
Thats pretty blunt. I'd think if Specter made a mistake, Goodall would have already said something about it.
God you guys are so fucking stupid its unreal. I seriously think both of you are blind. fuck.
Its pretty unreasonable to have someone beleive the Senator made a mistake when he said a comment like that. He even backed it by saying the commish told him that in the meeting. There was no mistake.
Pull your fucking brains out of your homer asses.
Jesus Shuttlesworth
02-16-2008, 05:01 PM
How was it illegal if there wasn't a rule though? I didn't think there was, otherwise they would have punished for all the tapes and not just the Jets ones?
Also, relax, I know you take this super personal but I'm really not all that heated about this. I'm just trying have to a conversation about it here.
dunno, maybe theres more to that hasnt been made public. The rule your talking about is for actual games. Rumors say the Pats were taping practices and walkthroughs. That might be it. Dont know, but Goodall said it was illegal so it was illegal. I think of all people, he'd know. BITCH YAHHHHHHHH
I'm taking this super personal right. I just carved your face into my knee with a knife. I'm emotionally distraught.
Jesus Shuttlesworth
02-16-2008, 05:06 PM
lol okay so you don't know everything about what he ment then?
I hope you didn't get any blood on your shine of Archie Manning
As long as my Cooper Manning shrine is safe, i dont care.
VonErichLives
02-16-2008, 06:55 PM
yeah, it is really funny how personal RP and Sammy are taking this...
but again, it still comes down to this, there was no rule until 2007, so hence no rule was broken before that.
I love how RP says we can't assume that Spector is wrong in his statement but he can assume he's 100% correct even though he wasn't there for the meeting and in the past has ignored anything that came 2nd hand.
As for the "rumor of other tapings" there's one, and it's a former employee who claims that they taped the Rams walkthrough in 2002, he wanted money from ESPN to give the details, ESPN said no, he claimed he needed legal protection? Why would he need protection if he's telling the truth? Goodall offered him the legal protection and he said it wasn't enough.
Until we have some details and this guy starts talking there is nothing.
So, by the way, anyone know if the Giants won a big game recently?
Skippord
02-16-2008, 08:40 PM
*Specter and Goodell
I'm taking this personal? LOL
VEL stop. You said Specter is wrong because he's an Eagles fan. Do you realize how rediculous that sounds. Nevermind dont answer. You dont. You're an idiot. You're talking out of your ass now. You're the one talking about colts chargers and shit and taking it personal. I just posted the link and my opinions.
( lol@you )
VonErichLives
02-17-2008, 08:30 AM
No, if they ever teach you to read you would see I said "this whole thing started with him because he's an Eagles fan" and it did, he admited that, he sent his original letter to Goodell the week before the pats/eagles game because he was wondering if the taping incident had any effect on ther superbowl game 3yrs ago.
If he wasn't an Eagles fan he never would have thought about it and sent any letter.
You are taking it personal, your somehow taking a rule infraction in 2007 and using it to justify previous losses by your favorite team, that was my point. Had the Colts beat SD and won in NE you wouldn't care as much as you do, but this is a team that continualy had the Colts number, if not for the Patriots the Colts might have 3 super bowl rings by now.
but the facts stand there was no rule before 2007 so no rule was broken.
The only person to claim they taped the rams walk through has yet to give ANYONE any details because he's afraid of legal backlash. He had been offered the protection and still hasn't given any info (I still ask if you're telling the truth what protection do you need? Like Clemens nanny the other day "I don't need a lawyer i'm telling the truth"
When you have the video tape then talk to me, until then the only rules violation was week #1 2007 and they were punished for that.
unless there is new info, I'm done on this subject.
So, i'll let you have your last word/spazz out as usual otherwise this will never die.
No, if they ever teach you to read you would see I said "this whole thing started with him because he's an Eagles fan" and it did, he admited that, he sent his original letter to Goodell the week before the pats/eagles game because he was wondering if the taping incident had any effect on ther superbowl game 3yrs ago.
If he wasn't an Eagles fan he never would have thought about it and sent any letter.
You are taking it personal, your somehow taking a rule infraction in 2007 and using it to justify previous losses by your favorite team, that was my point. Had the Colts beat SD and won in NE you wouldn't care as much as you do, but this is a team that continualy had the Colts number, if not for the Patriots the Colts might have 3 super bowl rings by now.
but the facts stand there was no rule before 2007 so no rule was broken.
The only person to claim they taped the rams walk through has yet to give ANYONE any details because he's afraid of legal backlash. He had been offered the protection and still hasn't given any info (I still ask if you're telling the truth what protection do you need? Like Clemens nanny the other day "I don't need a lawyer i'm telling the truth"
When you have the video tape then talk to me, until then the only rules violation was week #1 2007 and they were punished for that.
unless there is new info, I'm done on this subject.
So, i'll let you have your last word/spazz out as usual otherwise this will never die.
you're not the commissioner. Just because you say no rules were broken dont mean shit. Goodell said the Patriots were " illegally " taping since 2000. HE SAID THAT. Lets see...Goodell said Pats cheated since 2000, you say they didnt, case closed. Hmmmmm I'm pretty sure you dont know what the fuck your talking about and Goodell does.
I'm glad you're not posting anymore, cause you lost this argumet like 2 days ago.
OssMan
11-25-2012, 06:27 PM
Pretty phat how they have that camera angle right on Brady before he hikes the ball where you can hear everything he is saying
lol phat. come on, is this 1995
good comment for real your the man
what the fuck?
lol
Those Superbowls are still undecided until we see whats on those tape.
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Helmsphere
10-13-2017, 10:03 PM
Why do I have to be reminded of this season again. The only highlight I have of this season was The Patriots losing to the Giants and The Dolphins winning there only game on my birthday.
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