NFL 2009 Season Thread

[CSL]

<font color=goldenrod>When are the Bills gonna just declare that their official uni? They wear it so often it may as well be.</font>

They should, those uni's are sex

[Boomer]

Um that Bills drive was amazing. Surprising the hell out of me so far.

[Droford]

Buffalo beating the return of the Football Christ would be the icing on a remarkable weekend but Im not getting my hopes too far up yet.

[OssMan]

I can't fucking root for the Bills any more. I always pull for them whenever they're playing some fucking monster team like the Patriots or something. But I just can't bring myself to root for a Terrel Owens team.

[OssMan]

Also I thought Monday Night Football starts at 8:30, I just turn the game on and the first half is almost over, what is this shit

[OssMan]

what the fuck is going on with the uniforms in this game. Patriots look like the Bills and the Bills look like the Patriots. Then the Refs come out wearing orange stripes with Auburn hats LOL

[OssMan]

since when does going out of bounds under 2 minutes not stop the clock? what the hell is going on

[Droford]

what the fuck is going on with the uniforms in this game. Patriots look like the Bills and the Bills look like the Patriots. Then the Refs come out wearing orange stripes with Auburn hats LOL

Its AFL Appreciation day...every time two original AFL teams play this year since its the 50th anniversary of the AFL

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[SammyG]

That pick by the lineman was sick

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>And the Bills choke it away right there, guaranteed. No way Brady isn't scoring.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>And there is is.

Leodis McKelvin needs to be benched next game.</font>

[OssMan]

Did anyone not see that happening

[Emperor Smeat]

Yeup, i think besides the Bills, only the Bengals are the other NFL team to be specialists in giving away games.

[Shadow]

Nice while it lasted.

[Emperor Smeat]

What an ending to Pats-Bills game

[#1-norm-fan]

God must just hate the Bills. lol

[Fignuts]

Fucking losers. Move them to toronto already. i don't want to have to deal with this bullshit anymore.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Yeup, i think besides the Bills, only the Bengals are the other NFL team to be specialists in giving away games.

My Panthers... well my shitty QB anyway :(

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Weird really. Just watching the game I kept saying "there's no way the Pats can REALLY lose their home opener to the Bills...no way", and they somehow found a way to lose.</font>

[SammyG]

Wow. Epic choke.

[Fignuts]

It's not epic. It's fucking typical.

[Emperor Smeat]

My Panthers... well my shitty QB anyway :(

They still have good enough players to be decent, Delhomme hasn't been the same last 2 years though.

Bills and Bengals is more mental than skills since when they can win, they give it away. I would include the Lions but they need to win more to get that type of bad luck.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Not very often you see an instance where one guy single-handedly loses a game for a team, but tonight was one of those times. McKelvin better not drop the soap in the shower.</font>

[HeartBreakMan2k]

They still have good enough players to be decent, Delhomme hasn't been the same last 2 years though.

Bills and Bengals is more mental than skills since when they can win, they give it away. I would include the Lions but they need to win more to get that type of bad luck.

The thing is, Delhomme has never been a great QB in my opinion. I've never wanted him. The only reason he looks good is because he's always had playmakers around him. Smith, Mus, Foster, Davis, now Stewart and Williams. Those guys don't need a great QB, they need someone that can put the ball near the wide receivers because Smith can go get it if it's within 10 yards and that opens your run game. The problem is, he hasn't even been a DECENT QB in 2 years.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Yeah, Steve Smith single handedly makes Delhomme look great. They only time Jake has a good statistical day is when Smith does as well.</font>

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Gruden was pretty good in the booth tonight. Way better than Kornheiser obviously.

[Big Fat Mike]

Still can't believe how the Pats-Bills game ended. I was saying the whole time how the bills needed to make it an 11 point game to have enough of a cushion, and then mr. dick decides hes going to try and take one to the house as an exclamation point. Seriously, why else would you take that ball out of the end zone unless you saw a realistic chance of going all the way? The desire for personal glory defeats solid , smart football yet again. It's going to be a hell of a season.

[asphyXy]

Anyone see that bullshit call on the Raiders touchdown pass? Holy shit.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Yeah I don't understand how that wasn't a TD for Oakland.

Missed like the whole Pats game cuz I was out furthering my education - caught the very end though :cool:

[asphyXy]

The Chargers are playing like five year old girls.

[Emperor Smeat]

San Diego is playing horrible right now. Its like they expected Raiders to do nothing and they would get an easy win. Raiders winning the mental battle and physical battle in the game so far.

[Emperor Smeat]

dam 3rd and 30 within 2 plays from 2 penalties.

[asphyXy]

Russell is the fucking greatest QB. Did you see him blocking? Holy shit.

[Skippord]

pretty sure Norv Turner should be fired

[Emperor Smeat]

I don't think its Norv Turner's fault this time. Chargers are too flat and unfocused. You have Phillip Rivers basically rattled by Oakland's D and the running game not doing much. Its only close because Chargers D is still holding off the Raiders and Raiders offense is still average to bad when they need points.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Hope Mayo's injury isn't that serious.

On an unrelated note the Patriots throwback jerseys are fucking sick

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Wow that was a sick pitch and catch between Rivers & Jackson

[asphyXy]

Ugh

[FearedSanctity]

How would you feel if your boss said Hey I'd rather have someone else do your job and if the price is right I'll get rid of you, but since we didn't get what we want I guess we'll just stick with you? I'd be pissed and I'd want out of the organization too.

I've actually dealt with something similar at an old job of mine. The chef who hired me eventually set me to be a kitchen lead after a few months. But when he quit and the new chef came in, he saw fit to bring in his own crew and fire some of the original staff. Lost my position, almost all the way down to dishwasher, but I understood why he'd do that. Sucked, but it's a business and the new chef was just trying to do what he thought it took to not eventually get fired. The turnover at that lace was insane, in the 2 1/2 years it's been open. It's had a new GM on average every 3 MONTHS, so he was right to be worried. And he did eventually get fired.

Now, while not exactly the same thing, they're similar enough. McDaniels just wanted (and with guys like Jordan, Gaffney, Hochstein, Smith, he did) to bring in his own guys. What commitment did McDaniels have to Cutler? He didn't draft him. Now if Dennison the OC or someone had been promoted from within and tried to trade him, I could understand Jay being upset. Those were his guys, and he'd have felt stabbed in the back.

When someone new with completely different ideas comes in, you need to be ready for anything. Regardless of what business you're in. A new boss means NO ONE is safe, especially if his star guy (let alone one he created) is available.

As for Cutler not meeting with McDaniels, how is that a negative against Cutler? He didn't want to play for McDaniels anymore so what obligation does Cutler have to have go to some meeting that isn't going to solve anything?Cutler was at first upset because Shanahan was fired, and cried publicly about it before McDaniels was even interviewed. Josh was screwed before he got hired. Whether McDaniels, Spagnuolo or Frazier was the HC, Cutler was going to cry. Then after they tried to trade him, he wanted a contract as a sign of commitment. And like I said, anytime McD tried to meet with him in regards to that, he no showed, sent his agent while he stayed in Indiana or simply refused.

After that is when Bowlen tried to step in. Jay ignored his calls and never returned any texts. No matter who you are or what you do for a living, never a good idea to disrespect the guy who signs your checks like that.

A couple days later, Cutler was gone.

While I totally understand Jay being upset, he ultimately carried on about it like a little bitch. The NFL is a multi-billion dollar business that few are lucky enough to be PAID to play. Get the fuck over your hurt ego and play. If Coach doesn't like you and wants someone else, you play your ass off and prove him wrong. You don't take a flight back home and not answer the boss' calls.

[Emperor Smeat]

DAM, thats like 3rd or 4th time in the opening week of NFL that a long bomb breaks up a close game assuming Raiders can hold off for the win.

Assuming Raiders can hold on, that would join Packers, Broncos, and Patriots for long bomb TDs to win a game. Pitt could have joined the list had Hines Ward not fumble the ball in late 4th.

[Droford]

absolutely beautiful pass on 4th and long for the TD to give the Raiders the 20-17 lead.

[Droford]

JT The Brick would be going crazy if he was on the radio, but hes at the game..

[Emperor Smeat]

I think it was Seymour that started the whole intensity of the Raiders today with the 2 sacks early in the game and the rest of the Raiders followed to disrupt the Chargers and Rivers/LT game plan.

[RP]

lol Raiders. Should have known. Atleast i picked them in my spread league getting 6.5 points.

[FearedSanctity]

I wish I could search the amount of times "lol Raiders" has been said on the internet in the last 10 minutes

[Droford]

Im doing a 5 team parlay this week which pays 17:1

Colts -3.5 @ Dolphins
Seahawks +2.5 @ 49ers
Cardinals +3.5 @ Jaguars
Falcons - 6.5 vs Panthers
Packers -9.5 vs Bengals

Im not touching Vikings/Lions or Rams/Redskins with a 10 foot pole (conveniently the same # of points the Skins/Vikings are favored). The Rams beat the Redskins last year on the road and I could see it happening again. Favre tends to struggle vs the Lions and its in Detroit which adds to the fun. There are a couple games still not on the board but I think those 5 are all I need.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

<font color=goldenrod>Eagles sign Jeff Garcia.

lol Kevin Kolb</font>

Called it

Serious drama potential right thurr

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Feels like every time there was a chance for a Week 1 upset, the favored team was just "lol jk" and somehow won.</font>

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Im doing a 5 team parlay this week which pays 17:1

Colts -3.5 @ Dolphins
Seahawks +2.5 @ 49ers
Cardinals +3.5 @ Jaguars
Falcons - 6.5 vs Panthers
Packers -9.5 vs Bengals

Im not touching Vikings/Lions or Rams/Redskins with a 10 foot pole (conveniently the same # of points the Skins/Vikings are favored). The Rams beat the Redskins last year on the road and I could see it happening again. Favre tends to struggle vs the Lions and its in Detroit which adds to the fun. There are a couple games still not on the board but I think those 5 are all I need.

Wow seriously I'd reconsider the Cards. I mean I know they probably won't be as bad as they were against the 49ers, and Jax aren't all that, but they are TERRIBLE on the east coast.

[DaveBrawl]

pretty sure Norv Turner should be fired

He needs a contract extension.

[Hanso Amore]

I am just broken, I cant do this anymore.

[Nark Order]

Chargers, son. Wut

[Reavant]

I am just broken, I cant do this anymore.

Next step... Team obliterator destroys a defalated team

[SammyG]

I am just broken, I cant do this anymore.
I'm heaaavily broooooooooken and I don't know what to dooooo

[Kris P Lettus]

Eagles sign Jeff Garcia.

lol Kevin Kolb

You need a back up for week 2.

I actually think Kevin Kolb can be pretty good in the West Coast offense.

Reid said today that he'd start Kolb over Garcia if McNabb can't play..

Really looking forward to Sunday.

Me too.. I'm ready to see what our offense can do against a elite defense..

[Droford]

Wow seriously I'd reconsider the Cards. I mean I know they probably won't be as bad as they were against the 49ers, and Jax aren't all that, but they are TERRIBLE on the east coast.

Tampa is +4.5 @ Buffalo now on the board...I kinda like that better than Arizona but Im not sold on the whole "Arizona can't win on the road" thing because that was last year and they facing a pretty bad Jacksonville team.

I dont think Tampa is that bad and Buffalo isn't going to put up #'s like Romo and the Cowboys did.

[Triple Naitch]

Shawn Andrews is out for the year. Gives him more time to get his Michael Phelps on.

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[SammyG]

Rams signed Ruvell Martin and some linebacker... like this will make any difference.

[Fignuts]

I am just broken, I cant do this anymore.

Seriously.

And I swear, every time I hear a boston fan complaining about one of their sports teams, I want to punch them in the mouth. Fuckers would have slit their wrists years ago if they were buffalo fans.

[Reavant]

You think you got it bad.... not only am I a buffalo fan, but I live in chicago! YEA! I know! How Im still alive or not on medication is anyones guess.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Oh pooooooooooor Bills fans. Boohoohoo. You guys have it so rough.

[Jeritron]

I have no complaints with being a Boston fan. I gloat about it daily

[Droford]

Someone vandalized McKelvin's front lawn up in Buffalo.

Not something youd expect out of Buffalo.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Seriously.

And I swear, every time I hear a boston fan complaining about one of their sports teams, I want to punch them in the mouth. Fuckers would have slit their wrists years ago if they were buffalo fans.Been the golden age for Boston sports for about the last 8 years or so. Red Sox, Patriots, Celtics & Bruins (I think? Don't really follow the NHL) are all legitimate title contenders. Really dreading when the magic runs out

[Emperor Smeat]

Bruins have been decent this decade, 3 good years so far (last year & the 2 consecutive years they were in the top 2-3 in the East), a bunch of average years, and maybe 2 bad years. Last season was probably 1st time they actually felt like a championship worthy team this decade.


Apparently Redskins going to court for possibly the last time over their use of "Redskins" as a team name. Some Native American group that's been fighting since 1992 to have the team change its name wants the Supreme Court to decide if the name defames Native Americans.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4474771

[Shadow]

Bruins have been decent this decade, 3 good years so far (last year & the 2 consecutive years they were in the top 2-3 in the East), a bunch of average years, and maybe 2 bad years. Last season was probably 1st time they actually felt like a championship worthy team this decade.


Apparently Redskins going to court for possibly the last time over their use of "Redskins" as a team name. Some Native American group that's been fighting since 1992 to have the team change its name wants the Supreme Court to decide if the name defames Native Americans.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4474771

Oh that's hilarious.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>There is no way that it's getting changed. But I would piss myself laughing.</font>

[Supreme Olajuwon]

It probably should be changed. I've always personally believed that naming a team after a group of people was fine, but if the group found it offensive, then the name should be changed.

Really funny reading comments about this though. People don't seem to understand why the term Redskin would be offensive. I wonder how they'd react to a team called the Brownskins.

[OssMan]

Well they already changed Bullets and will probably change Capitals after they move the US capital to Omaha, NE. Hopefully the Mystics aren't affected

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Even if the Native American group wins this case, the Redskins don't have to change their name. They'll just lose the federal trademark.

But seeing as Dan Snyder is the greedy asshole that he is, he'll probably change the name so he can get a federal trademark.

[RP]

Just give them more casinos.

[Kris P Lettus]

Soon it was commonplace for entire teams to change cities in search of greater profits. The Minneapolis Lakers moved to Los Angeles where there are no lakes. The Oilers moved to Tennessee where there is no oil. The Jazz moved to Salt Lake City where they don't allow music.

-Basketball

[Kris P Lettus]

NFL holding off on suspending the Saints' Will Smith, Charles Grant
By Brett Martel (CP) – 17 hours ago
METAIRIE, La. — The NFL has decided against enforcing four-game suspensions of Charles Grant and Will Smith at this time, opening the way for the New Orleans Saints' starting defensive ends to play this week and possibly the whole 2009 season.
NFL commissioner Roger Goodell said it would be unfair to suspend the two Saints players now, when the league has been blocked from suspending two Vikings players for the same offence while their case is pending in Minnesota state court.
"This situation presents several unique and narrow aspects that I believe call for us to put the good of the game ahead of questions of discipline," Goodell said. "Considerations of fairness, uniform application of our policies, and competitive integrity all support deferring the suspensions at this time," Goodell said. "I am not prepared to treat players differently when the same conduct is involved."
The four players, along with former Saints running back Deuce McAllister, all fought their suspensions last season after they tested positive for the banned diuretic bumetanide, which can be used to mask the presence steroids.
The players argued that the league knew bumetanide had been detected in the over-the-counter weight-loss supplement, StarCaps, but failed to notify players who were using it. Bumetanide was not a listed ingredient in the product.
David Cornwell, an attorney for the players, said in statement that Smith, Grant and McAllister "appreciate Commissioner Goodell's decision not to suspend them for unknowingly ingesting a banned diuretic."
"We are particularly grateful for the commissioner's sensitivity to the fairness issue," Cornwell continued. "This has been a challenging process for everyone. While the NFLPA and the NFL must now work together to resolve the unintended, broader issue of conflicting state laws, DeMaurice Smith's support for Deuce, Will, and Charles was invaluable and is greatly appreciated."
The NFL Players Association sued on the players' behalf in federal court in Minnesota, delaying enforcement of the suspensions beyond the end of last season.
In May, U.S. District Judge Paul Magnuson dismissed the NFLPA's lawsuit and several claims in the Williamses' case - then sent two claims involving Minnesota workplace laws back to state court.
Last Friday, a three-judge panel of the 8th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals agreed with Magnuson's decisions. Goodell said the NFL will vigorously contest the remaining state law claims in the case.
The commissioner also said he hoped the players union would begin working with the league to resolve the matter now that federal courts "have rejected the NFLPA's improper challenge to our collectively bargained program."
"We hope the union will join us in ensuring that these principles of fairness and uniformity are preserved," Goodell said. "The union's unfortunate refusal to do so thus far has created needless uncertainty for our program. This is an important issue not only for the NFL, but for all sports and everyone who cares about the integrity of sports competition."
A phone message left with the NFLPA's main office in Washington, D.C., was not immediately returned. The Saints also did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
Players had the day off on Tuesday and were scheduled to return to practice on Wednesday and play at Philadelphia on Sunday.



What I've been thinking Goodell should do since the Vikes DT's got out of it..


Just hope it doesn't come back to bite us in the ass like the last quarter of the season..

[Kris P Lettus]

Also, Legend, there is NO LINE for the game on Sunday..

:o

[McLegend]

I am aware. High scoring game.

I'm happy Shawn Andrews got put on IR. He's a weirdo.

[Kris P Lettus]

You think McNabb's gonna play??

[McLegend]

No I do not.

[Hanso Amore]

So my guess is Runyan is back with the Eagles by Friday

[FearedSanctity]

Steelers | Clark unsure if he will play against Denver
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Ed Bouchette, of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, reports Pittsburgh Steelers FS Ryan Clark said he is not sure if he will play in the road game against the Denver Broncos November 9th because the altitude affected him greatly physically the last time he traveled to Denver. The altitude caused a reaction in his blood that attacked his spleen, which made him lost his spleen and gall bladder.

[DaveWadding]

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[ClockShot]

NFL fines Jets $75K, Jets GM Mike Tannenbaum $25K, and Eric Mangini $25K for the Brett Favre injury list mishap.

[RP]

I dont know much about Hank Baskett other then he married that playboy chick. I hope he's a " just in case someone else gets injured " guy. I really like Austin Collie and Garcon.

[McLegend]

Yeah he's not any good.

[Jeritron]

lol at the Rex Ryan clip. Never heard anything like that in my life. I've heard trash talk before but I've never heard a coach openly admit to not being as good as his opponent.

"I'm not as good as Bellichek, and our quarterback is not as good as Brady, so we're really gonna need you to get loud and make them uncomfortable to help us win."

or something like that. Unreal

[Jeritron]

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[Kris P Lettus]

lol Yeah heard that today..

I hope Dovonan plays Sunday cause Vilma loves McRibs..

[Jeritron]

must make Sanchez feel great going into only his second game

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Ugh, Canty out for his return game to Dallas, and possibly more...with a calf injury.

Starting to get a really bad feeling that he's gonna wind up like LaVar Arrington.</font>

[#1-norm-fan]

lol. He could have worded that so differently. Sanchez showed a lot of potential last week. Obviously he's no Tom Brady but don't just come out and say it. lol. "We've got a rookie QB that's learning the ropes still and isn't Tom Brady" would suffice. Just a horrible thing to say. lol.

[Nervous Ferret]

He is just trying to play up the whole 'underdog' thing. Like a "pysch-out" move or whatever/ I dunno

[FearedSanctity]

Marshall had a manditory meeting with the media. He decided to answer like this:

So, Brandon, did you have any making up to do with your teammates upon your return?

"This week, in preparing for Cleveland, it’s going to be tough and we know that," Marshall said. "We’re going to do our best to give it our best shot."

So how close are you to being back to your Pro Bowl form?

"I think Coach (Eric) Mangini is doing a great job with the guys, getting them to do what they’re supposed to do, doing their job, and it’s making it tough on opposing offenses," Marshall said.

The only time Marshall spoke directly to a question was when he said he was completely healthy. Marshall had hip surgery in the offseason and missed a couple of weeks of training camp with a hamstring injury.

"I think I was 100 percent a long time ago," Marshall said.

After a public relations staffer announced that there was one more question before the locker room was closed, Marshall decided he didn’t have time for another answer.

"All right," Marshall said, walking away after the question was done

[Skippord]

lol awesome

[Kris P Lettus]

I signed up on NFL.com to be able to comment on videos and whatnot.. I figured it's be pretty good discussion, but really, it's worse than most message boards I've ever been too.. People are completely bias, talking shit, without even watching game or highlights to base their opinions on.. Pretty terrible, but kinda entertaining at the same time..

[Jeritron]

Whenever something's that big, it's going to be full of morons and scare the reasonable people away.
NFL and ESPN are to sports forums as IMDB is to movies

[Kris P Lettus]

Some people are pretty cool and knowledgeable, but all these Philly fans keep bringing up our "horrible defense" just b/c the Lions hung 27 on us.. If they had actually watched the game, looked at the box score, or even watched the highlights, they'd know that all of those points came from bad kick coverage and turnovers.. We eliminate just a few of those kind of mistakes and we will win by double digits, even if McNabb was healthy..

I respect the Eagles D, but they really did nothing on Offense.. Kolb is gonna come in and get ate up by Vilma and Sharper.. He'll prolly throw 2 or 3 picks in the first quarter, then Reid will put in Garcia.. Now I realize Gracia is a West Coast Offense guy and use to play under that system, but with completely different receivers.. He's had what, two days of practice?? It takes ALOT longer than that to get timing down which is what puts up big numbers in the air.. No way he steps in and saves the day after it's 17-0 at the end of the first.. He'll do honorable, but I just feel like they will be playing from behind after Kolb leaves the field and our new REVAMPED D is gonna ballhawk.. That added with the little practice time for Garcia = more INTs.. Eagles only hope is Westbrook running for like 350 yards and 4 TD's which I really don't see happening.. I'm really looking forward to this game cause it's really gonna test our Offensive weapons against an elite Defense..

[Emperor Smeat]

I think it was Pardon the Interruption where they talked about how NFL and College Football fans are starting to become like European/S. American fans in terms of fanaticism and extreme emotional attachment to the games. Not soo much the good kind of fanatics but more of using the Bills incident to show its beginning to rise to "hooligan" levels.

[Boomer]

God I hate ESPN.com highlights. NFL.com has the best highlights by far.

[Kris P Lettus]

Yeah, I watch all the NFL.com videos I can..

[Droford]

I was sorta worried with LT being out that Sproles will have a bust out game, but then I remembered its been 36 games (December of 06, and even further before that for another 100 yard rusher) since the Ravens last gave up 100 yards rushing to a single player. His kick returns do scare me a bit though. The Chargers are really banged up too and the Ravens luckily managed to stay clear of any serious injuries vs KC. Going into the season this was one of 4 key non steeler games (along with Indy/NE/Denver) that would go a long way in deciding if they'd have a shot at the playoffs, so its good feeling at least right now how things are shaping up vs SD.

Its also kinda sad that SD hasn't sold out their home opener yet and it could get blaked out in SD.

[Kris P Lettus]

Should have never gotten rid of the best QB in the NFL, Drew "The Cool" Brees..

[FearedSanctity]

Rod Smith was just on Vic and Gary just now said Brandon handled his interview perfectly. Smith said don't give the media the opporuntiy to spin your words.

Other items:

Shannon Sharpe called Smith this weekend and said Brandon's body lanague is terrible and needs to work on the swagger and his smile.

Rod's hip bothered him for 3 years so he doesn't know how Brandon's hip is efffecting him

"Whatever is wrong with Brandon" we will get it fixed - Rod Smith

So Marshall gets to be schooled by Rod Smith AND Shannon Sharpe? No reason why he shouldn't pick up on something to better himself. I knew they'd talked with him on the phone, didn't think they were gonna keep mentoring him though

[Skippord]

I love Rod Smith so much :(

[Evil Vito]

http://www.wfan.com/topic/play_window.php?audioType=Episode&audioId=4031175

<font color=goldenrod>rofl actually sounds like Coughlin</font>

[Loose Cannon]

Bring on the Pats!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sanchez > Brady.


Notre Dame :love:

[Boomer]

Gonna start Palmer instead of Rivers tomorrow. Hope thats a good decision.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I have to choose between Rivers or Eli on one team tomorrow...really not a good week for matchups.

Brett Favre is sitting in the FA pool but I think the Lions are gonna get slaughtered so they'll just be handing the ball off anyway.</font>

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Really hope the Patriots fucking smash the Jets tomorrow, just destroy them.

Have always hated the Jets, now they got all this shit going down for week 2. COME ON BRO

[Emperor Smeat]

Really hope the Patriots fucking smash the Jets tomorrow, just destroy them.

Have always hated the Jets, now they got all this shit going down for week 2. COME ON BRO

Yeah this year's trash talking is already more intense than last year before their 1st meeting. Last year it was all about how Farve would destroy the Patriots and lead Jets to division title. Jets ended up loosing that game and A.D. ended up doing the "2 for 1" sack of Farve and Leon Washington in 1 play.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Starting Flacco over Cutler and Percy Harvin over Witten in my flex spot today.

Cutler's gonna have a miserable day against Pittsburgh and Harvin is up against the Lions.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Real excited for the game tonight. Hate that I have to wait another 8 1/2 hours.

I'm thinking it's gonna be a close matchup. I kinda have a feeling though that the Cowboys will be able to explot the Giants' secondary, unlike the Redskins. If they do that, they'll force the Giants to match and turn it into a high scoring game, which the Cowboys are unfortunately much better suited for offensively. But if they can get some key turnovers/sacks and Jacobs allows the Giants to control the clock, I think they've got a great shot at spoiling the opening of the Palace of Jerry.

GO GIANTS!!!</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I have to choose between Rivers or Eli on one team tomorrow...really not a good week for matchups.

Brett Favre is sitting in the FA pool but I think the Lions are gonna get slaughtered so they'll just be handing the ball off anyway.</font>

<font color=goldenrod>Eh, fuck it. Went ahead and did this anyway. I never wanna start somebody against the Ravens D and it's a pretty tough matchup for Eli considering nobody has fully emerged from their receivers yet.

Hopefully Favre can get a couple of scores before the Vikes get a huge lead.</font>

[Loose Cannon]

Vito, should I start Steve Smith (Giants) over Deshawn Jackson or Jericho Cotchrey? Is he like thier #1 Reciever now?

quick

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I'd go with Smith. The Giants WRs might not be outstanding, but I have no faith in Kolb and Cotchery against the Pats could be risky.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Oh for fuck's sake...I'm playing the team that has Adrian Peterson in 3 out of 4 leagues</font> :|

[Loose Cannon]

yea, same thing I was thinking. I watched Kolb last week and he was horrendous. like I don't even know why he is starting.

we'll see

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Well, time for me to enjoy watching some Panthers football and cringe at some Jake Delhomme quarterbacking... :(

[Kris P Lettus]

Saints 31-Eagles 17

[Kris P Lettus]

yea, same thing I was thinking. I watched Kolb last week and he was horrendous. like I don't even know why he is starting.

we'll see

Because Garcia has been on the team for like two days.. West Coast Offense takes timing..

[Kris P Lettus]

Where is all this Eagles defense I've heard so much about??

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Holy hell, Jake hasn't looked bad to start this. I still want a new QB but at least he doesn't look third string right now.

[Kris P Lettus]

Kolb just threw a TD to Jackson..

They're aren't gonna be able to play keep up with us if they want to trade TD's..

[OssMan]

OK Kris P Lettus

[OssMan]

Ah You

[ClockShot]

Broncos open up at home. Wish they would air it so I can see McDevil get booed out of the building.

[FearedSanctity]

A new 1-0 coach probably won't get booed too badly. An 0-1 coach would've though.

[The Gold Standard]

<font color=goldenrod>Real excited for the game tonight. Hate that I have to wait another 8 1/2 hours.

I'm thinking it's gonna be a close matchup. I kinda have a feeling though that the Cowboys will be able to explot the Giants' secondary, unlike the Redskins. If they do that, they'll force the Giants to match and turn it into a high scoring game, which the Cowboys are unfortunately much better suited for offensively. But if they can get some key turnovers/sacks and Jacobs allows the Giants to control the clock, I think they've got a great shot at spoiling the opening of the Palace of Jerry.

GO GIANTS!!!</font>

I completely agree.

GO GIANTS!!

[FearedSanctity]

Wow. Sanchez

[FearedSanctity]

Mike Bell :wavesad:

[Kris P Lettus]

Yes, Mike f'n Bell..

Saints D is looking better than the Eagles D in the second half..

With our Offense, I think we could hang 35+ points on ANY team in the league.. De just needs to hold up..

Who Dat??

[FearedSanctity]

Shannon Sharpe will be skydiving into Invesco today for his ROF cerimony
Leave it to Shannon to do things a little differnently

This according to CBS4

[FearedSanctity]

Chris Johnson has 179 yards rushing in just 9 carries...

[Kris P Lettus]

It's funny that on other message boards, Eagles fans are saying that it's all because of McNabb being hurt.. I didn't realize McNabb played Defense..

[Kris P Lettus]

LOL

Anyone see that botched fair catch by Jacoby Jones that gave the Titans the ball back inside the Texans 5??

[FearedSanctity]

I saw it, and thus learned something I didn't know about fair catching

[OssMan]

Damn it Rams

[Kris P Lettus]

I saw it, and thus learned something I didn't know about fair catching

What didn't you know??

He fumbled the fair catch, I mean, you actually still have to catch the ball when calling for a fair catch..

p.s. Mike Bell is hurt right now..

:'(

[Kris P Lettus]

Reggie Bush hurt Asante Samuels..

WOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Kris P Lettus]

(not that I want anyone to get hurt or anything)

:shifty:

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>rofl JaMarcus Russell is beyond awful.</font>

[Kris P Lettus]

REEEEEEEEEEEGGGIIEEEEEEE

[FearedSanctity]

What didn't you know??

He fumbled the fair catch, I mean, you actually still have to catch the ball when calling for a fair catch..

p.s. Mike Bell is hurt right now..

:'(

I was just under the impression that you basically got a clean shot to catch it with no interference. If you bobbled it or whatever, the ball was fair game. Didn't know the other team couldn't try to gain possession until the ball hit the ground, or that they could be flagged for catching the bobble.

NOW I KNOW

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Damn the Saints offense is beastly. Hope all the Giants' D is healthy and ready to go when they head to the Super Dome next month.</font>

[Kris P Lettus]

Brees will pick them apart too, healthy or not..

[Crimson]

This might be the Saints' year

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Gut check time, let's see if Brady can pull out another one...</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Nope, Jets win...holy shit.</font>

[RoXer]

Awesome.

Go Jets

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>lol Belichick and Ryan shaking hands for .5 seconds</font>

[Innovator]

might as well have been a hand slap

[Kris P Lettus]

DARREN MOTHERFUCKING SHARPER

[Loose Cannon]

.

[Triple A]

omg Belichick press conference just now. Can't stand everything about him.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Supreme do you like football again? :)

[DrA]

Ok good St. Louis covered the spread. Now all I need is for Seattle to win for me to win 30 cents on centsports.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Panthers :(

[Loose Cannon]

lol I just though Dwayne Jarrett caught that for the TD

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Packers lose...out of my other survival league. Fuck.</font>

[Loose Cannon]

wow

[Loose Cannon]

well thank god I had Chris Johnson going. Cause Tom Brady put up a whopping 6

[Gonzo]

Yes, Mike f'n Bell..

Saints D is looking better than the Eagles D in the second half..

With our Offense, I think we could hang 35+ points on ANY team in the league.. De just needs to hold up..

Who Dat??

Nah, Osi, Tuck and the gang would terrorize Brees all day. :p

[Heros Welcome]

Dirty Birds Baby!!!

[owenbrown]

That Texans-Titans game was fucking ugly

[Loose Cannon]

I dunno if this is a Dish Network only channel, but they've been advertising this "NFL Redzone" channel on TV the past two weeks and this thing is pretty awesome. It's basically a channel that covers all the games going on at that particular time. It'll switch back and forth and show the live key plays. I haven't moved since 1:00 est because of this channel.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Yeah, you gotta have the NFL pass to get it though I think. Fucking love it. And what a damn collision in the Steelers/Bears game.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

edit - n/m it's with the multi-sport pack which is only like 5 bucks.

[Loose Cannon]

it's free right now. might be for the week. I'll have to check. But it says $5.99/month when you click on the info. it's perfect for someone like me who will watch the Jets play, but just wants to see clips of the other games.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

The 5.99 also gets you NBA TV and NBA HD among like 30 other channels :cool:

[Loose Cannon]

yea, I saw that.


btw, nice job by myself for taking Deshwan Jackson out of my lineup and watching a 71 yard TD by him like 15 minutes after I did that

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Kudos :y:

[Kris P Lettus]

Dirty Birds Baby!!!

Ya'lls D can't hang with Brees.. Also, with our revamped D, Ryan won't get more than 2 TD's when we play y'all..

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Dirty Birds Baby!!!

I hate you :(

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>So glad there are four straight 1 PM games after this. Hate having to wait all day.</font>

[OssMan]

Saints are best all-time team, best QB ever and best defense ever

[Heros Welcome]

Ya'lls D can't hang with Brees.. Also, with our revamped D, Ryan won't get more than 2 TD's when we play y'all..

We shall see what happens Krispy. It's the match up I can't wait for.

[Loose Cannon]

Carson Palmer, welcome to my fantasy team.

[FearedSanctity]

Denver's lost 6 points to the wind :-\

[Kris P Lettus]

We shall see what happens Krispy. It's the match up I can't wait for.

I just know we can put up 35+ on any team in the NFL.. Best chance for any team to beat us is if we turn the ball over numerous times and the opposing teams match any TD we score..

[Shadow]

God damn it Skins...even when you win you lose.

Fuck DC fans

[DaveWadding]

lmao. The Redskins were my pick in Survival this week. WOOOOO

[FearedSanctity]

Buckhalter is ridiculous. Moreno's getting better and better too.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Wow... Pit... 2 misses.

[OssMan]

God damn it Skins...even when you win you lose.

Fuck DC fans
Redskins looked like shit. Fuck you

[Emperor Smeat]

Ray Lewis is still a beast. Killed Chargers final 4th down play almost right at the time Rvers handed the ball off to Sproles on the rush play.

[Droford]

Ray Lewis is still a beast. Killed Chargers final 4th down play almost right at the time Rvers handed the ball off to Sproles on the rush play.
Yeah, that was impressive, but I was otherwise disapointed in the defense.

But they won, so I guess I'll take it.

[Evil Vito]

Ray Lewis is still a beast. Killed Chargers final 4th down play almost right at the time Rvers handed the ball off to Sproles on the rush play.

<font color=goldenrod>I bet Sproles saw Lewis coming as he was charging to get the handoff and he was like "oh fuck" cause he knew the game was over</font>

[Emperor Smeat]

Yup he just went down. Didn't even lower a shoulder or anything to try to lower the impact. Just took the hit while Rivers just walked off the field as it happened since even Rivers knew it was over.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>GIANTS WEEK 2 INACTIVES
DT Chris Canty
CB Kevin Dockery
OL Adam Koets
WR Hakeem Nicks
CB Aaron Ross
LB Clint Sintim
RB Danny Ware
OL Guy Whimper

Shit, was REALLY hoping Dockery would be back. Only 6 DBs again against a more formidable offense than last week. Terrell Thomas and Bruce Johnson are gonna have to step it up. Also, only 3 DTs rotating tonight. Fucked if anybody on the defensive side of the ball goes down.

GO GIANTS!!!</font>

[Innovator]

Phillips is playing, good

[Skippord]

Shannon Sharpe skydiving into invesco was pretty badass

[SammyG]

FUCK DONNIE AVERY. We woulda won that fucking game if it wasn't for his stupidass fumble.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

I was very impressed with my Niners. At least one of my teams did well today, I just kind of wish that Carolina was the team doing it. Over the last 12 or so years i've gotten used to SF sucking. lol.

[Crimson]

Alright..big game for the 'Boys. Should be close, that run defense better get better or else they lose easy.

[OssMan]

lol the teams have to run through a bar from their locker room onto the field

[Skippord]

also Elvis Dummervil had 4 sacks today in his second game at Rush Linebacker

he's incredibly good

[HeartBreakMan2k]

holy hell at that stadium..

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Supreme do you like football again? :)
lol yeah it's alright I guess

[Supreme Olajuwon]

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/97/fullj.4484b5cdaf223fb3c1ec0e535e2a4cc1/4484b5cdaf223fb3c1ec0e535e2a4cc1-getty-88971923sb020_bengal_packer.jpg

[Droford]

Im gonna go on a limb right now and say that the Ravens are the best team in the AFC. Jets fans can come in here and spew about how they're 2-0 and they beat Football Jesus and whatever but the Ravens have scored 69 points in 2 games, the most in the AFC and 2nd most in the league behind the Saints (you gotta let that sink in real nice and slow). They just went into SD and with a terrible defensive effort by Ravens' Standards still managed to beat the Chargers on the road.

The Defense has been totally un-Raven like though (as has the offense for that matter!) but it will get better for sure.

Can't wait for 2 weeks when the Ravens go into NE and beat Football Jesus too. Its conceivable that the Ravens could start 5-0 going into the matchup @ Minnesota which will be epic with Adrian Peterson vs the Ravens defense...

and the Giants are laying the smackdown on the Cowboys right now something huge.

[Loose Cannon]

yea, totally agree with you on the Ravens. Best 2-0 team in the entire league. They are probably going to get to the Superbowl just like the Saints, who also are the best 2-0 team in the league

[Hanso Amore]

Lets go Buffalo

[Londoner]

Good game this!

[SammyG]

Unless Romo gives me at least 50 points on fantasy, I am not winning my matchup this week.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Yeah right Sammy. Only Drew Brees could do that. Y'all just can't admit it. We got the team to beat and our boys are gonna whoop y'alls asses.

[SammyG]

You forgot the .. if you were going for the Krispy...

WHO DAT

[Loose Cannon]

lol @ the interception off Witten's foot

[Droford]

sucks, he'll get the int but not the TD.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

HE DID WHAT

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Holy shit at the heads up INT by Philips, what were the Cowboys thinking

[HeartBreakMan2k]

He needs to get the TD, I don't think I heard a whistle.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I love Mike Carey's mannerisms. He might be my favorite Official now that Bernie Kukar is gone.

[SammyG]

Nice fucking TD there

[Supreme Olajuwon]

that's it

I'm adding Manningham to all my fantasy teams

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Wow, WHAT A CATCH!

[Droford]

The Cowboys losing opening their stadium is great.

not as great as their last game in their old stadium though, but still great.

[SammyG]

watching other football games must be so enjoyable when your team wins... I really would not know what that's like.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

watching other football games must be so enjoyable when your team wins... I really would not know what that's like.
ha I was actually having a conversation with a buddy about that

cause last week when OSU and the Bengals both lost I just didn't give a shit about football

but this week it's all fun and enjoyable

[Skippord]

hey at least you aren't a Lions fan, guy

[Loose Cannon]

The Cowboys losing opening their stadium is great.

not as great as their last game in their old stadium though, but still great.

definately not as great as the MVP of the year, Joe Flaco

[HeartBreakMan2k]

watching other football games must be so enjoyable when your team wins... I really would not know what that's like.

Meh I dunno I'm a Panther fan and I'm still enjoying it.

Then again I am still riding a high from the Tarheel win yesterday, and the consolation win of the 49ers... so I dunno.

Get at me if 2 out of the three or all three lose.

[Droford]

definately not as great as the MVP of the year, Joe Flaco

Nah...Im not that delirious.

and its Flacco, with 2 C's..get it right!

[Gonzo]

that's it

I'm adding Manningham to all my fantasy teams

Guy has awesome quicks. He just seems to get to full speed so fast. I knew he was fast, but now that he is healthy and playing I'm damn impressed.

[Droford]

Im taking Atlanta over NE in NE next week. Who is with me?

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Ugh, they can't fucking put it in when they are in the red zone.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Fuck you Tynes.</font>

[Supreme Olajuwon]

TYYYYYYYYNES you fuck

I need those points

[Innovator]

Tynes you fucking suck

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>That Cowboys Stadium number is bullshit IMO. Only like 80,000 can sit with another 25,000 standing outside nowhere near the field of play.</font>

[Loose Cannon]

dam you Tynes. I picked you up to score points you fuck

[Loose Cannon]

oh wait, I had Chris Johnson in today. 51 points :love:

[Droford]

That Cowboys Stadium number is bullshit IMO. Only like 80,000 can sit with another 25,000 standing outside nowhere near the field of play.

If they count the people watching it on tvs outside they should go ahead and count the SNF Audience #'s too while they're at it.

The stupid thing is we get to sit through all this crap again next Monday because MNF is Panthers vs Cowboys, and you know ESPN will do NBC probably 2 or 3 times worse for the stadium crap.

[Fignuts]

Glad Buffalo won, but fuck we need to stop blowing big leads.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Oh yeah and did anybody see the video package at the beginning of the game comparing Cowboys Stadium to the 7 Wonders of the World? :| Absolutely sickening.</font>

[Fignuts]

That actually makes me want to hit something.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Oh yeah and did anybody see the video package at the beginning of the game comparing Cowboys Stadium to the 7 Wonders of the World? :| Absolutely sickening.
lol yeah I was cracking up

I mean yeah it's cool and all but let's not go nuts

I like Arizona's place a lot better

[OssMan]

This game is a screwjob. Fuck this shit

[Innovator]

Fucking hate Dallas

[Londoner]

I'm so glad i have no emotion towards either team since i'm from england, and can just sit back and enjooooooooooooy........:)

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Kenny Phillips reppin the UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

[redoneja]

Glad Buffalo won, but fuck we need to stop blowing big leads.

Yea, they won at the expense of me Bucs. :(

Going to be a suck year for me as a Bucs fan. Don't think we can win either of our games against the Saints or the Falcons. Maybe can pull one out against Carolina but I'm sure we'll be last in the division this year. :wavesad:

[redoneja]

Fucking hate Dallas

I don't have anything against the Cowboys as a team, I just fucking hate Jerry Jones. :mad:

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>SMITH!</font>

[Supreme Olajuwon]

OH YEAH forgot to bring this up earlier but Jeff Reed crying on the Steelers' sideline after his two misses was one of the greatest things ever

Couldn't have happened to a nicer dick.

[OssMan]

Flozell Adams is trippin

[Loose Cannon]

did I just hear them play The Ultimate Warrior's theme music??

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Come on O, put up a TD here to widen the gap. None of this field goal shit.</font>

[Loose Cannon]

I'm so glad i have no emotion towards either team since i'm from england, and can just sit back and enjooooooooooooy........:)

The Patriots say they are from the new England. it's kind of fucked up, don't you think?

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Romo has completed a pass to 10 different receivers.

8 of them play for the Cowboys!

[OssMan]

Romo threw a punt return to Kenny Phillips

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I definitely slept on Manningham coming out of college. Didn't think he would do a thing in the pros.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Wonder if the Giants have a record for most players with the same last name.

Bruce Johnson
Darcy Johnson
Gartrell Johnson
Michael Johnson</font>