NFL Thread

[DaveWadding]

such an odd argument

"The Dallas Cowboys never won a Super Bowl without Roger Staubach or Troy Aikman"

"The Pittsburgh Steelers never won a Super Bowl without Terry Bradshaw or Ben Roethlisberger"

"The New York Giants never won a Super Bowl without Eli, Phil Simms or Jeff Hostetler's moustache"

Brady, Elway, Art Shell and a bunch of others etc

Difference is that you are choosing from 2 disparate eras in a team's history. The Niners went immediately from Montana to Young, and basically had Rice the entire time.

[road doggy dogg]

Still a ridiculous argument.

[CSL]

so dynasties don't count basically. It only counts/you only have history if you win the Super Bowl once a decade.

[DaveWadding]

I'm not denying that it's a ridiculous argument. I just don't think "my team won a lot 20 years ago" holds weight as a reason to act like your team is superior.

[Nark Order]

They were also one of the best teams in the league for the last 4 years (give or take a year) and went to a Superbowl.

Get off me, broh.

[Ruien]

Anything in the past is stupid to brag about IMO. Only time it should be allowed is bragging about last season during the offseason. Once the new season starts who gives a shirt. You either suck or don't. If you suck then go enjoy watching games from 1980 but no one else cares.

[Nark Order]

Allowed, you say. I'll be sure to check in with the word police the next time I want to talk about the 49ers.

[Ruien]

Thanks.

[Emperor Smeat]

Besides Raiders and Chargers possibly sharing a stadium in LA if both move, Rams owner also working on having a stadium in LA to be shared by two teams. Unlike Raiders and Chargers, his plan doesn't require a 2nd team in case nobody is willing to move.

An NFL team owner has designed a Los Angeles-area stadium for two clubs -- with two home locker rooms, identical sets of office space and two owners' suites.

St. Louis Rams' owner Stan Kroenke doesn't need to partner with a second team to finance the $1.86-billion venue in Inglewood, but the league considers Los Angeles a two-team market and wants a stadium that could accommodate both, according to the Los Angeles Times.

His plan competes with one by the San Diego Chargers and Oakland Raiders, who want to share a stadium in Carson.

Kroenke hasn't said he plans to move the Rams, but analysts doubt he would invest in a stadium and not use it for his team.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>The Browns are the favorites to be the Hard Knocks team this year.

Hardly surprising. They were always going to be on that show within a year or two of drafting Manziel.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Darren Sharper pled no contest to rape allegations in Arizona and was sentenced to 9 years in prison. Louisiana sentenced him to 20 years. Still two more states to decide on his plea deal.

He can serve all of his sentences concurrently but he'll be locked up for at least 20 years. Good riddance.</font>

[ClockShot]

Good news for you fans with teams who suffer TV blackouts, NFL is suspending the Blackout rule for the 2015 season.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Maybe if they lowered ticket prices more people would go.

[Clerk]

Browns have done great in free agency! Pick ups like Brian Hartline, Dwayne Bowe, and Tramon Williams make this an easy favorite for AFC NORTH. Losing Buster Skrine is not good though

[road doggy dogg]

Good news for you fans with teams who suffer TV blackouts, NFL is suspending the Blackout rule for the 2015 season.

Great step in the right direction. Still wonder how NFL Game Pass blackout stuff will work though. Probably still not worth getting yet.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>NFL announced the compensatory picks for the 2015 draft, the Cardinals get to select this year's Mr. Irrelevant.

The NFL has never revealed the formula used to decide on comp picks but it relates to players lost in the previous year's free agency. The Pats got an extra 3rd round pick largely due to losing Aqib Talib.

Also funny is seeing the Bengals get a 3rd rounder mostly due to losing Michael Johnson, who they already got back. Nice job Bucs.</font>

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[screech]

Instead of making a "football move," receivers must now "establish themselves as runners" to complete catches.

After review with this new wording, the Dez Bryant play is still not a catch.

[Ruien]

So, now, when someone catches the ball with 2 feet in bound but then gets hit out of bounds is it not a catch? Because they never established themselves to be runners?

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

So, now, when someone catches the ball with 2 feet in bound but then gets hit out of bounds is it not a catch? Because they never established themselves to be runners?

He is established as a runner by having his feet set and the ability to run if he wanted to.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Instead of making a "football move," receivers must now "establish themselves as runners" to complete catches.

After review with this new wording, the Dez Bryant play is still not a catch.

Because it wasn't a catch.

[Simple Fan]

Oh it was a catch alright.

[screech]

I wasn't making a claim one way or the other, just relaying information #unbiasedreporter

[Simple Fan]

Jags/Bills game in London only going to be streamed on a site to be named. Won't be on TV at all.

[Ruien]

That kind of sucks. I enjoyed the extra game. Gave a little excitement in the morning.

[Ruien]

Of course I will just stream it and put it on the television.

[Crimson]

Instead of making a "football move," receivers must now "establish themselves as runners" to complete catches.

After review with this new wording, the Dez Bryant play is still not a catch.

So will all diving catches result in a no catch now? Or is there a separate rule for diving catches. Say its a clear catch ,receiver dove to make the catch so he's on the ground, defensive player touches him. Incomplete pass. :|

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Does the ball hit the ground?

[screech]

To his point, suppose it doesn't hit the ground. The receiver could not "establish himself as a runner" if he was diving to catch the ball.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

The ability to dive and maintain control of the ball would be enough to establish himself as a "runner." You are all being to literal with the phrase runner.

[screech]

If referees can barely decide what a "football move" is, I don't think it's a stretch to say there will be issues figuring out who is a "runner."

[road doggy dogg]

Jags/Bills game in London only going to be streamed on a site to be named. Won't be on TV at all.

That's the stupidest fucking thing.

Of all the ginormous clusterfuck that the "NFL Experience in London(g)!" has been, one of the few ACTUALLY COOL things about it was being able to watch a 9am game on that Sunday or whatever. So they're getting rid of that?

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I think they're testing to see how many people actually bother to stream a 9 AM game in America, and they picked this game cause the Jags suck and the Bills, while intriguing, don't have a huge following.

Basically if a ton of people still get up and go out of their way to stream THAT game, it will just give the NFL even more revenue streams going forward because it'll mean people will still stream anything to get their NFL fix.</font>

[screech]

I liked having the 9am game on because it ended during my show and I could give live updates lol

[Droford]

No more lining up ineligible receivers like the Patriots did vs the Ravens.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

John Harbaugh is an asshole. He can't understand a rule, he bitches and now it's illegal. Suck a dick.

[screech]

Shut up

[Emperor Smeat]

NFL preparing rule changes for the extra point process starting as early as this season. Suppossed to be the main topic of debates during the next meeting in May.


Considering the amount of teams being investigated this season, NFL hinted the first batch of punishments are going to be handed out soon. Both the Browns and Falcons are expected to get hit with "severe" penalties.

[Simple Fan]

I didn't mind the pre season games where they moved it back bit I have also heard they are thinking about moving it up to encourage teams to go for two more often.

[Droford]

The only people who will hate doing away with extra points is sports books since it messes with how they calculate spreads and especially totals.

[James Steele]

It's stupid to get rid of PATs. Quit trying to reinvent the fucking wheel.

[#1-norm-fan]

Yeah, I kinda hate any proposed rule change that directly changes how points are scored.

[Emperor Smeat]

Still think the CFL-style of an extra point for 50+ yd FGs would be the best. Makes longer FGs more exciting, wouldn't mess up scoring in a weird way like what the Colts suggested or by removing PATs, and just moving PATs back a few yards would still make them "boring."

[Ruien]

Just leave it the way it is. IF YOU MUST CHANGE IT then just get rid of the PAT and make everyone go for 2.

[screech]

Just make every touchdown 7 #backyard

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I was always a big proponent of defending the extra point but at this point it's a total formality. You have to try really hard to screw it up.

I wouldn't mind the NFL Blitz rule: touchdown is worth 7 points by default. If you want to go for an 8th point, you put a point at risk. If you make it, 8 points. If you don't, 6 points. Pretty simple and keeps strategies basically the same with respect to the current game.

The worst thing they could possibly do would be to force everybody to go for 2 no matter what. A 2-point conversion attempt is basically a 50/50 play, it'd be terrible to dramatically swing the game on what amounts to total luck. You may as well just flip a coin at that point.</font>

[screech]

Plus a "real play" has higher injury risk, which I'd think the league would want to avoid.

[Simple Fan]

Yea if they want to change it the best thing to do us move it back about 10 yards to make them less automatic. And it give the offence more room to run a pass play.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

10 yards is still a chip shot.

[Simple Fan]

If the ball is on the 13 it makes about a 30 yard field goal.

[Ruien]

We should just give the team the ball at their 20 and tell them they get 3 plays to get into the end zone again. We can award them 1 point if it takes 3 plays, 2 points if it takes 2 plays, and a holy OMG 3 points if it takes 1 play. WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Seriously, the game is just fine as it is. It is called a EXTRA POINT for a reason. It is like the reward for getting a touchdown instead of doing 2 field goals.

[Droford]

It's not really officially called an extra point.

Point After Touchdown (PAT)

[Ruien]

Point After Touchdown seems like a free point instead of kicking a 40 yard field goal for it.

Hate Droford so much in this thread.

[Requiem]

Still seems totally pointless (no pun intended). Should just give them 7 points per TD, and give them a really long kick to try and tack on an extra 1 to make it 8.

[ClockShot]

NFL brought the hammer down on the Browns and Falcons with their shenanigans.

Falcons fined $350k and lose a draft pick in 2016 for their fake crowd noise over the last 2 seasons.

Browns fined $250k and the GM suspended the first 4 games for sending text messages to sideline personnel during games.

[road doggy dogg]

seem like such stupid trivial things but I guess they "have to" do something about it

meh

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

When will the Colts and Seahawks be punished for the same thing (fake noise)? Seems like they are punishing a jobber team to send a message.

[James Steele]

Roger Goodell is a fucking joke.

[Requiem]

Colts were investigated and the allegations were proven to be false. CBS took responsibility for the crowd noise issue years ago when this rumor started. Something to do with their audio fucked up and caused a feedback sensation. It only existed on their channel's broadcast, and couldn't be heard in the stadium. That one event sparked rumors that they were doing it on purpose until they were investigated and cleared of it.

Harbaugh saying it again recently doesn't make it true.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Still Seahawks?

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>A couple of weeks after Jameis Winston said he won't attend the draft, Marcus Mariota won't be either.

Nice job moving the draft away from New York, Goodell.</font> :y:

[Ruien]

Would not take any news you hear today seriously Vito. A die hard Philly fan just blew up when he read a article that the Vikings traded Peterson to Dallas for a draft pick.

[Evil Vito]

Would not take any news you hear today seriously Vito. A die hard Philly fan just blew up when he read a article that the Vikings traded Peterson to Dallas for a draft pick.

<font color=goldenrod>It's being reported by CBS Sports, NBC Sports, and the Chicago Tribune. He's going to watch the draft from Hawaii with family. Not exactly an April Fool's Day-worthy story.</font>

[Ruien]

Okay. My bad then. I checked ESPN and NFL.com and did not see anything related to it. Which I could have missed on those site also.

[Emperor Smeat]

:lol: Bengals April Fool prank ended up making fun of the Browns.

http://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=%2Fphoto%2F2015%2F0401%2Fnfl_e_bengals11_300x200.jpg

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12600831/cincinnati-bengals-troll-rival-cleveland-browns-logo-prank

[Droford]

The Ravens signed Matt Schaub for backup QB. Flacco hasn't missed a start in 7 years, I guess it doesn't matter much. They should have just drafted another backup. Seems like waste to pay him to sit on the bench and hold a clipboard the whole year, and if Flacco gets hurt they're fucked anyway cause he sucks.

[Emperor Smeat]

Former Bucs kicker, Lawrence Tynes, is currently suing the team over the MRSA mini-pandemic a few years ago.

Former Buccaneers kicker Lawrence Tynes has sued the team, claiming that unsanitary conditions at the team's facility led to him contracting MRSA.

Tynes claims the infection led to the end of his career, and he is asking for $20 million in expected future earnings, according to a news release issued by Tynes' attorneys. Tynes was signed by the Bucs in 2013 but never kicked for the team, as he was diagnosed with methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus at the start of training camp.

The lawsuit claims the Bucs failed to disclose and actively concealed ongoing incidents of the infection among other individuals who used and visited the team's facilities. It also is alleged that the Bucs failed to employ necessary sterile techniques and routinely left therapy devices, equipment and surfaces unclean.

[Emperor Smeat]

Jets signed Steven Ridley to a 1-year deal according to ESPN. Expected to be more of a backup than starter role for the Jets. Redskins and Dolphins were also interested in getting him.

[#1-norm-fan]

Preseason schedules have been released.

Interested to see Droford's picks.

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-cards="hidden" lang="en"><p>Troy Polamalu has announced his retirement from the NFL: <a href="http://t.co/O0pcafsIoN">http://t.co/O0pcafsIoN</a> <a href="http://t.co/ucIPoPKMyv">pic.twitter.com/ucIPoPKMyv</a></p>&mdash; SB Nation (@SBNation) <a href="https://twitter.com/SBNation/status/586354067326181376">April 10, 2015</a></blockquote>
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[Droford]

Preseason schedules have been released.

Interested to see Droford's picks.

Saints- win since they've never lost to Brees and I assume he at least starts 1 drive
@Eagles -depends on the draft
Redskins- win
@Falcons-win

[screech]

Ravens are going 23-0 this year

[Nark Order]

Droford, I will make a 9ers/Ravens bet with you when the season starts if you's like.

[Droford]

Ravens are going 23-0 this year

I'm not that crazy
Droford, I will make a 9ers/Ravens bet with you when the season starts if you's like.

49ers are like The California Ravens with Smith and Boldin..you probably wish you had Flacco too

[Nark Order]

I absolutely do not wish that in any way, shape, or form.

[#1-norm-fan]

Saints- win since they've never lost to Brees and I assume he at least starts 1 drive
@Eagles -depends on the draft
Redskins- win
@Falcons-win

lol Droford does not disappoint.

[Ruien]

Didn't Bell from the Steelers get suspended for three games for pot? So funny. Hate Bengals are taking that division and losing in the wild card game. Beating the Bengals in the wild card game will start becoming a tradition.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Aaron Hernandez found guilty of first degree murder, which carries a maximum life sentence in Massachusetts.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Scratch that, life without parole is the ONLY sentence available for first degree murder in Massachusetts. He's done.</font>

[road doggy dogg]

Wild. They didn't have a murder weapon or anything, but I guess in Mass that doesn't matter or something. Idk. He obviously did it though. Still can't process this.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

They probably destroyed it. They destroyed alot stuff trying to cover it up.

[Ruien]

I have not followed this at all so I don't know all the facts but he admitted to being there and witnessing the crime right? And then running away and not calling the cops? Like really? Why would you admit that.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

I have not followed this at all so I don't know all the facts but he admitted to being there and witnessing the crime right? And then running away and not calling the cops? Like really? Why would you admit that.

Desperate attempt to say he didn't actually kill him.

[Clerk]

Show some respect he's innocent he didn't pull the trigger. An innocent man will be in prison for his life only 25

[Fignuts]

https://scontent-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10475864_856935597704171_162801168652535477_n.jpg?oh=17d3b5bb629fea3bdca68ad6444e9540&oe=559BD3E7

[ClockShot]

Walking through the airport terminal before I went home today, one of the bars I walked passed had ESPN on and I had stopped and watched for a bit.

Stopped and watched for a bit and said out loud, "holy shit, they found him guilty."

Surprised this took about 5 days and change for a verdict. Was the Marathon Bomber verdict faster?

[McLegend]

https://scontent-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10475864_856935597704171_162801168652535477_n.jpg?oh=17d3b5bb629fea3bdca68ad6444e9540&oe=559BD3E7

Awesome

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

15 years ago today Tom Brady was drafted.

[Clerk]

And 2 days ago a man was falsely acquitted of killing someone. Sad to the Tom Brady, Bill, and the patriots not back there guy. So classless.

[Simple Fan]

This dude put a Star Wars twist on the NFL
NFC

https://www.behance.net/gallery/9234099/STAR-WARS-National-Football-League

AFC

https://www.behance.net/gallery/9233923/STAR-WARS-American-Football-League

[ClockShot]

Courscant Vaders is the only really cool one of the bunch.

Oakland should cut a deal with Disney and capitalize on it somehow.

[road doggy dogg]

the Hoth Wampas one looks p. badass

[Simple Fan]

Tim Tebow just signed with the Eagles

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Chip Kelly ladies and gentleman!

[Innovator]

TEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEBBBBBBBBBBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

[Nark Order]

Oh my sweet mother of fuck.

Chip Kelly is trolling the entire NFL.

[McLegend]

Wait what

[Simple Fan]

This should stop all the Mariota talk. Don't see him wasting a whole draft to get another QB.

[McLegend]

Tim Tebow is the 3rd string QB. They will get rid of Barkley.

[Clerk]

Eagles need to start tebow to win division. Dual threat with the read option him and Murray will dominate

[McLegend]

Probably not... However I would rather have Tebow be the QB for an extended period of time then Mark Sanchez.

I know without a doubt that Sanchez blows as with Tebow I'm a little less sure.

[Nark Order]

Mark Sanchez seems infinitely better than Tim Tebow to me.

[road doggy dogg]

[insert quarterback here, literally any single quarterback who has played professionally except maybe like... Josh Freeman circa 2015] does as well

[Ruien]

I would go with Josh Freeman over Tim Tebow.

[road doggy dogg]

I probably would too, really.

[McLegend]

I lived with Mark Sanchez for 7 games last year, and I don't want to live with him again.

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-cards="hidden" lang="en"><p>THIS JUST IN: Patriots expected to host Steelers in season opener September 10th. (via <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter">@AdamSchefter</a> &amp; media reports) <a href="http://t.co/5Dh7RFIZFm">pic.twitter.com/5Dh7RFIZFm</a></p>&mdash; SportsCenter (@SportsCenter) <a href="https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/590609935131680768">April 21, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Think 2005 was the last time Pats played the Steelers for their opener.


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Sounds like first Sunday night regular-season game is shaping up to be Giants at Cowboys. Just like two years ago.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/590609371719151616">April 21, 2015</a></blockquote>
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[ClockShot]

Bears vs. Packers is the Thanksgiving Night game.

They're gonna retire Favre's #4 that night, too.

AND, it's the first Thanksgiving home game for the Packers since 1923. A good 92 years since.

[#1-norm-fan]

Giants @ Dallas on SNF in week one is a little strange considering the other options available. Kinda makes me think they're saving Philly for Thanksgiving again now. Dallas @ Washington seems like a lock for a Monday night at some point, too.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Yeah it seems weird. Giants/Dallas are a lock for a night game once a year but Giants @ Dallas was the SNF opener just 2 years ago. And the 3rd time in 4 years that those 2 teams play each other week 1.

Also for the Giants it's the 4th year in a row they open in a night game. Obv one of them was the customary night opener for winning the SB but still seems odd.

Pretty much abhor night games cause they're extra stressful.</font>

[Ruien]

Bears vs. Packers is the Thanksgiving Night game.

They're gonna retire Favre's #4 that night, too.

AND, it's the first Thanksgiving home game for the Packers since 1923. A good 92 years since.

Why the hell have the Bears playing the Packers on Thanksgiving? At least have it Detroit and Green Bay. The Bears will be blown out by 50 points.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>lol 4 of the first 6 Giants games are night games. Bollocks. oh well at least they'll be over and done with early.

Plus they play the Dolphins on MNF in the second half and Eagles/Giants week 17 is always a flex possibility depending on how the playoff picture looks then.</font>

[Droford]

Instanalysis

Sep. 13 at Denver Broncos 4:05 L
Sep. 20 at Oakland Raiders 4:05p W
Sep. 27 Cincinnati Bengals 1:00p W
Oct. 1 at Pittsburgh Steelers (Thu) W
Oct. 11 Cleveland Browns 1:00p W
Oct. 18 at San Francisco 49ers 4:25p W
Oct. 26 at Arizona Cardinals (Mon) W
Nov. 1 San Diego Chargers 1:00p L
Nov. 8 BYE
Nov. 15 Jacksonville Jaguars 1:00p W
Nov. 22 St. Louis Rams 1:00p W
Nov. 30 at Cleveland Browns (Mon) W
Dec. 6 at Miami Dolphins 1:00p W
Dec. 13 Seattle Seahawks 8:30p L
Dec. 20 Kansas City Chiefs 1:00p W
Dec. 27 Pittsburgh Steelers 8:30p W
Jan. 3 at Cincinnati Bengals 1:00p L

12-4

5 prime time games is pretty crazy though, although not as crazy as 4 west coast games plus 5 of first 7 on the road

[screech]

23-0, DROFORD

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Losing to the Chargers at home but beating the Steelers in Pittsburgh? Interesting.

[#1-norm-fan]

As bad as Droford with his Ravens locks last year, any prediction less than 23-0 makes me think they won't be making the playoffs.

[#1-norm-fan]

Carson city council approves the construction of a $1.7 billion NFL stadium for... whoever is about to become the "LA" somethings.

[road doggy dogg]

really hope Tebow is on the roster still for the Thanksgiving game so I can see him in person

[Ruien]

What the heck were they thinking putting 3 crap games on in a row for MNF? Sure everyone wants to see the Eagles but to go against the mighty Falcons? Ew. That game will prove nothing. At least put them against a .500 team.

[Nark Order]

Yeah. 9ers vs Vikings? Seems like a fairly lackluster game for MNF.

Winnable game though.

[Nark Order]

Week 6, Driford. We are betting.

[Droford]

As bad as Droford with his Ravens locks last year, any prediction less than 23-0 makes me think they won't be making the playoffs.

If the Ravens can get through the tough road stretch to start, the back end with all the home games looks promising. I could even see them beating the Seahawks since it's a prime time game at home.

Plus the Steelers play 4 of their last 6 on the road including @ Seattle and the two home games are Denver and Indianapolis.

Cincinnati has a favorable schedule but they get the same 4 west coast game treatment. They also have to play Houston from the AFC South where the Ravens play the Jaguars. I also should have factored the Bengals playing in Denver week 16 on MNF before the week 17 game, that might work against them.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Feel like making predictions any earlier than after the 3rd week of preseason games has been played is a bit silly. Rosters are going to change a ton between the draft, undrafted rookie signings, and the inevitable training camp/preseason injuries.</font>

[Ruien]

Any predictions Droford makes are a bit silly. Last year killed any credibility he has/had when he would pick really idiotic wins.

[Simple Fan]

What the heck were they thinking putting 3 crap games on in a row for MNF? Sure everyone wants to see the Eagles but to go against the mighty Falcons? Ew. That game will prove nothing. At least put them against a .500 team.

Falcons could be a suprise team this year. NFC South can't be as bad as it was last year. Ryan has weapons just needs an O line and the D to step up.

[Droford]

Last year's prediction

I keep having a bad feeling about this season for the Ravens and then I look at their schedule (http://www.baltimoreravens.com/gameday/season-schedule.html). if they can't go 11-5, then its probably going to be an awful year.

Bucs, Jaguars, Texans, Falcons, Titans, Browns (2) should all be wins which is 7.

Colts, Chargers and Dolphins are toss ups though I think the Chargers and Dolphins being near the end of the season helps the chances of winning 2 of them.

outside of Division games with Pittsburgh and Cincinnati, the two toughest games will be Panthers and at the Saints. Winning in new Orleans (when its not the Super Bowl) is hard..the Panthers in Baltimore will be rough too. 0-2 strong possibility.

They can split the Steeler/Bengal Series and still get 11 wins.

I like how I was wrong about the Panthers and Saints games which were actually 2 of their best performsnces. I was also wrong about the Texans game which was probably their 2nd worst loss behind the drubbing they took in Pittsburgh (which was made up for in the playoffs)

They went 10-6 but they disn't split with the Bengals for 11 like I thought they would, and I totally blame that on the bullshit offensive PI call in the week 1 game at home. And technically with the 1 playoff win they did win 11 games.

So I like to think I was about as close as anyone in predicting their season. I did predict it in July, so I will probably go back an adjust if anything happens in the draft but for now this is how I see it:

Jaguars, Browns (x2), Raiders, 49ers, Rams, Cardinals =7 wins they should be able to dominate the NFC West like they did the south last year with exception of Seattle.

Toss ups: Miami, Kansas City and San Diego my prediction had them winning vs KC and Miami and losing to SD, but I think they'll go 2-1 in these 3 one way or another

Outside of the Division games vs Pittsburgh and Cincinnati they only have two really tough games vs Denver an Seattle. The Denver game is especially tough since Kubiak is there. I'd like to think they could beat Seattle at home in prime time. A split of these 6 games somehow would get them to 12 wins.

I'm not as pessimistic about the wins this year, I think they could go 11-5 or even 10-6 and still win the division.

[Ruien]

Wasn't it like halfway through the season you predicted the Ravens would be 12-4 or some insane crap?

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Droford did pretty well in his Shoe In/Lock of the week if I remember. He didn't do well predicting Ravens wins/losses.

[Nark Order]

The Ravens will not defeat the 49ers.

[poopfromweiner dude]

y'all love to hammer droford because lololhomer drostat* etc...but the guy isn't laughably bad or anything...I bet he picks above 50% but below 52.8% ATS. That's good I guess. Better than what most of yall would pick

[Simple Fan]

Greg Hardy suspended for first 10 games for conduct detrimental to the league.

[ClockShot]

Real smart signing, Jerry.

[screech]

The Ravens will not defeat the 49ers.

23-0, <s>DROFORD</s> NARC

[ClockShot]

Weeks 13-16 either the Steelers, Ravens, or both are playing the NBC night game on Sunday. Unless it gets flexed out somehow.

Broncos schedule ain't that bad for this season. Harder teams we get to play at home, yet we to play the Patriots yet again as a strength of schedule game. NFL just won't let the Manning/Brady rivalry go.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Seattle also gets 2 straight SNF games at home. Just really weird scheduling.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Thinking about it, the schedule makers almost surely make the NBC games the first thing they "book". The season opening game is a standalone game but it's obviously defending SB champion vs. the most marquee same-conference team on their schedule.

In general the Cowboys, Eagles, Giants, Packers, Seahawks, Niners, Pats, Colts, Steelers, Ravens, and Broncos are pretty much guaranteed to be on SNF twice each at absolute minimum. So after you get the guaranteed ones we see every year out of the way (Steelers/Ravens, Giants/Cowboys, Cowboys/Eagles, etc.) you're just left cherry picking games that feature the other teams, matching them up against teams that should be decent, etc.

Obv it makes sense that NBC would want "over" teams. On the downside though the MNF schedule has been fucking terrible ever since NBC got dibs on games.</font>

[Droford]

The Ravens will not defeat the 49ers.

Ravens have won the last 3 regular season games vs SF (03,07,11) plus the Super Bowl.

[Evil Vito]

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<font color=goldenrod>Hilarious conspiracy e-mail Eagles lineman Evan Mathis received regarding the Tim Tebow signing.</font>

[screech]

Cracked up at the Lord's QB

[#1-norm-fan]

Let's not forget other Dro-picks as the season went on last year. There were at least 7 or 8 that I quoted at some point that were incredibly "sure". I'm pretty sure he gave a LED PIPE LOCK on every game Baltimore lost. Including guaranteeing that they'd beat Cincy at home. Then they lost to them at home. Without AJ Green. Lols followed.

[road doggy dogg]

Maybe it's selective memory but I remember Droford going on like a 7 week run with his lock of the week, so idk that's pretty good to me

[Ruien]

No one is arguing (I don't believe) that Droford picks the correct team to win/lose with the spread UNLESS he is talking about the Ravens. When he talks Raven football everything that even makes remote sense goes out the window.

But you are correct RDD, Droford seems to be REALLY good when it comes his bets.

[road doggy dogg]

That's why I try to avoid betting on Lions games at all costs

It's a lose-lose scenario... even if I think they are going to lose/not cover, I'd feel like a shithead to gamble against them. If I win, I'm triumphing over my team's defeat. If I lose, well I just lost money. Best to just avoid the situation altogether

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Tom Brady's blowing off the White House visit to attend a family BBQ. Wonder if it was his call or Gisele's.</font>

[#1-norm-fan]

No one is arguing (I don't believe) that Droford picks the correct team to win/lose with the spread UNLESS he is talking about the Ravens. When he talks Raven football everything that even makes remote sense goes out the window.

But you are correct RDD, Droford seems to be REALLY good when it comes his bets.

Yeah. I don't know how well he does picking the games. I just remember how incredibly cocky he got repeatedly last year when it came to calling certain Ravens and Steelers games only for him to be wrong and leave himself open for ridicule.

[Nark Order]

Ravens have won the last 3 regular season games vs SF (03,07,11) plus the Super Bowl.

I understand that. All of San Francisco understands that.

The 9ers are fairly tired of get thrashed by Baltimore. I think we take this one at home.

Not certain. But like I said, I'll take that bet if youre game.

[#1-norm-fan]

Oh yeah. Droford likes to use stuff that happened 12 years ago and during preseason games as reasons teams will win games, too. Also silly.

[Droford]

Drew Brees has never beaten the Ravens, the only team in the NFL he hasn't beaten I think.

The Ravens have never lost to the Cowboys.

Those are my favorite two at the moment.

[#1-norm-fan]

See

[Droford]

Oh and Joe Flacco has the same number of SB rings (1) ad Peyton Manning and 1 fewer win (10-5 vs 11-13)

[McLegend]

I can't wait for the draft. It's going to be so exciting.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I'm actually pretty stoked for the draft. Free agency has its moments and all but this basically the last football-related thing of importance until September.</font>

[road doggy dogg]

NFL doesn't matter in April, hate how they're continually trying to make a bigger and bigger spectacle out of draft day(s)

[Innovator]

I can't wait for the Giants to take a DE

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I'd be fine with a DE. They pretty much can't franchise tag JPP again so if they don't agree on a long-term deal with him next year they'd need a replacement.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Would be really surprised if the Giants don't go with a lineman of some kind first, actually. OL, DT, or DE. Brandon Schreff, Danny Shelton, or Randy Gregory probably their top targets at each spot.

I'd be happy with any. At the end of the day football is still won and lost in the trenches.</font>

[Emperor Smeat]

NFL was in a bit of a punishing mood today. Jets fined $100k for the Revis tampering case while Dolphins Dion Jordan suspended for all of next season for another drug violation.

[OssMan]

No :D smiley at the beginning of that post ?

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

NFL was in a bit of a punishing mood today. Jets fined $100k for the Revis tampering case while Dolphins Dion Jordan suspended for all of next season for another drug violation.

No draft picks? That's crap. They gave draft picks in the last tampering and the guy didn't even end up with the team involved.

[Ruien]

Its bullshit he was even punished. What is the guy suppose to say? Hell no Revis sucks.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Its bullshit he was even punished. What is the guy suppose to say? Hell no Revis sucks.

"I can't answer that question."

[Ruien]

Really? We are going to start making people be afraid to make general statements. Everyone knows anybody with half a brain wants Revis on their team. It is not like he said they were going to pursue Revis or Revis could make the Jets playoff contenders. He just said of course he would like Revis back because EVERYONE in the damn league would like Revis on their team.

[ClockShot]

DRAFT DAY!

Anybody think Tennessee is gonna trade away the 2nd pick?

[CSL]

does the draft start at midnight GMT i.e in 2 hours and 44 minutes from this post?

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I had read 8 PM Eastern aka 3 hours 40 minutes from now</font>

[CSL]

gayyyy, just checked the NFL Network schedule and you're right. I have to see at least some of the first round. Stupid Americans and your stupid living thousands of miles away

[Emperor Smeat]

DRAFT DAY!

Anybody think Tennessee is gonna trade away the 2nd pick?

Only if they can get a king's ransom for it. Bucs already said they want another 1st Round pick for this year but the best they are offering at the moment is their 2nd round pick (#2 in that round).

[owenbrown]

if Tennessee fucks this up I will likely kill myself.

[McLegend]

I don't think the Eagles will end up with Mariotta.

[RP]

Colts will probably trade out.

[ClockShot]

So, this gonna be the draft thread? Or somewhere in casual?

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Lots of boos for Goodell. Well deserved.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>NFL Network and ESPN have both pledged to not spoil any picks by showing players on the phone, etc.

And within 2 seconds they show Winston at his party, on the phone, high fiving everyone. :lol: though I guess he was the obvious first pick anyway so it didn't really apply to him.</font>

[#1-norm-fan]

Never understood how/why the first pick takes even a second to come in.

[ClockShot]

NFL Network and ESPN have both pledged to not spoil any picks by showing players on the phone, etc.

And within 2 seconds they show Winston at his party, on the phone, high fiving everyone. :lol: though I guess he was the obvious first pick anyway so it didn't really apply to him.

Which is the better channel to watch. ESPN or NFL Network?

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>NFL Network probably. Eisen > Berman. Mayock is kind of a knob at times though.

I'll probably flip back and forth since they won't spoil picks.</font>

[Droford]

Nfl netork, I can't look at Kipers hair

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Also stay off Twitter if you don't want spoilers. The beat reporters tweet a sit goes along.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>As expected the first pick is future felon Jameis Winston</font>

[Droford]

Winston is going to be a bust

[ClockShot]

And now all eyes are on the Titans.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Thinking about it, when was the last time there was a genuine surprise 1st pick? Even if there are multiple guys that are worthy of the top pick with beat reporters and the like it's pretty much set in stone a few days before the draft, if not earlier. Not sure there can be a surprise top pick anymore short of a trade going down right before the draft.</font>

[Droford]

I wish there was a way the Ravens could get Gurley or Gordon but not happening at 26

[Emperor Smeat]

<font color=goldenrod>NFL Network and ESPN have both pledged to not spoil any picks by showing players on the phone, etc.

And within 2 seconds they show Winston at his party, on the phone, high fiving everyone. :lol: though I guess he was the obvious first pick anyway so it didn't really apply to him.</font>

Does it also apply to their Twitter accounts?

Last 2-3 years they've spoiled picks there before they were shown on tv.

[Droford]

Marioto

[ClockShot]

Hope you like country music, Marcus.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Eagles supposedly offered 2 1sts, a 3rd, Fletcher Cox, and a few other players to move up and the Titans still said no. Mariota is their guy.</font>

[Droford]

Jacksonville not fucking around but I guess we have to wait because of commercials

[road doggy dogg]

nfl.com's stream awful

[road doggy dogg]

hope Lions pick a good player

[Emperor Smeat]

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Team picking 1st overall in each of last 3 seasons has posted a winning record the following year.</p>&mdash; ESPN Stats &amp; Info (@ESPNStatsInfo) <a href="https://twitter.com/ESPNStatsInfo/status/593932610478481408">May 1, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Streak probably getting broken next season since I doubt the Bucs are going to suddenly get that good. Although haven't bothered to see what their schedule is if 9+ wins is even possible on paper.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Fuck, so now Washington is gonna probably get either Leonard Williams or Amari Cooper. Would not wanna face either of those guys twice a year.</font>

[Droford]

Lol whenever QB go 1-2 #2 is always a bust save for 1999

93 Bledsoe mirer
98 Manning leaf
99 Couch McNabb
12 luck rg3
15 Winston mariota

[Crimson]

Fowler looks beast

[ClockShot]

Ghost of Al Davis still haunts Oakland.

[Crimson]

So far no surprises

[Droford]

The Raiders didn't fuck up for once

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Cooper's fucking amazing but Leonard Williams was clearly the best defensive player in this class. Feel like they could have gotten a good WR @ #36 overall but whatever.

Derek Carr's gotta be happy.</font>

[McLegend]

Kiper is saying work ethic a lot this year.

[ClockShot]

I'd figure Oakland would go defense to give Denver a bit of a challenge by picking up Williams. With Del Rio being a defensive minded coach and all.

Hell, I wonder if Del Rio made the call?

[Crimson]

Wow

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Oh fuck, Washington took the Giants' guy.

Glad Leonard Williams didn't go there, though.</font>

[Crimson]

Jets take Williams? Please. Don't want him in Giants

[ClockShot]

Mayock says Williams got flagged by a few teams cause of a shoulder issue.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I can't see Leonard Williams making it to #9. Giants would still need to trade up to get him and Jerry Reese has never made a first round trade, up or down.</font>

[Crimson]

<font color=goldenrod>I can't see Leonard Williams making it to #9. Giants would still need to trade up to get him and Jerry Reese has never made a first round trade, up or down.</font>

Thought they had 7th pick. Whew

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Although O-Line figured to be the top target, if Vic Beasley is still there at #9 I see Reese jumping. He can't resist a pass rusher.

If Beasley's gone I think Ereck Flowers would be the guy. If somehow he is gone too, maybe CB Trae Waynes.

Dunno. Really surprised Scherff went so early.</font>

[ClockShot]

New York sports radio will either be good or bad to listen to tomorrow morning with this next pick.

[RP]

Colts just traded for Mariota. He's going to park cars.

[ClockShot]

And the jets do the smart thing.

[Crimson]

Jets defense.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Wilkerson is gonna ask for a lot of money this offseason, so Leonard Williams makes sense.</font>

[ClockShot]

DA BEARS get Jay Cutler some help.............again.

It a matter of Jay Cutler being good is the issue here.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Kevin White with the hottest gf of the draft so far</font>

[Emperor Smeat]

Is the RB class really that bad this year?

ESPN seems to be trashing it saying none are 1st Rd quality except for 1 guy.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Giants are said to love Flowers and feel he could start at RT day one with the potential to be a star LT down the line. We'll see if that's where they go.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>There it is. Flowers.

Kiper says he's a reach at 9, but fuck him.</font>

[Innovator]

Thank you lord Jesus

[Droford]

Is the RB class really that bad this year?

ESPN seems to be trashing it saying none are 1st Rd quality except for 1 guy.

Every know it all analyst says you don't draft a RB in the first round.

[Crimson]

Damn. Gurley will be a stud

[ClockShot]

Gurley had an ACL injury.

Would have went with someone else.

[Simple Fan]

Dolphins got a good player picking Parker.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Melvin Gordon is an interesting pick for the Chargers</font>

[McLegend]

I like the pick

[Ruien]

Someone tell me, did the Bears draft some players with good potential? No idea who anyone in the draft is because I don't watch college sports.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Wow, Shane Ray to the Broncos</font>

[RP]

Todd Gurley had a smoking hot white hoe. Grats Todd!

[RP]

Someone tell me, did the Bears draft some players with good potential? No idea who anyone in the draft is because I don't watch college sports.

They drafted a guy who's fast enough to chase down Defensive players on all of Cutlers pick 6's.

[RP]

If Landon Collins falls to the Colts, I'll be thrilled!

[Crimson]

If Landon Collins falls to the Colts, I'll be thrilled!

He won't get past Dallas. Better not

[Ruien]

They drafted a guy who's fast enough to chase down Defensive players on all of Cutlers pick 6's.

Cool. What did the Colts do? Did they end up trading the pick? Hope not. Love having a bunch of young guys. Especially with the additions of Gore and Johnson.

[RP]

He won't get past Dallas. Better not

I think the Boys will shock you. I think they take Tevin Coleman.

[Droford]

Irvin was raving over Perriman, one of the better endorsements a WR can get. Wasn't really digging the pick before that though

[RP]

Now watch as the Colts dont fill there thinnest position with Landon Collins and draft some WR.

[Simple Fan]

Not a bad pick, would have liked Collins or Hollaman but Jones is good.

[Crimson]

Byron Jones. I like it.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Laken Tomlinson to the Lions. Was getting 3rd round grades from a lot of teams but clearly the league saw first round potential since he was there in person.</font>

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Reports are Pats have traded out of the first round.

[Emperor Smeat]

Bunch of chatter around the net about how Shane Ray's 1st Round pick confirming the NFL being homophobic towards Micheal Sam since both players are about the same talent wise and won SEC defensive player of the year awards.

Difference being Sam coming out that he was gay and Ray getting busted with drugs before the draft.

[RP]

Landon Collins should be the pick, but espn just went to commercial giving Ryan Grigson plenty of time to fuck this up .

[RP]

FUCK MY LIFE!

[RP]

Now watch as the Colts dont fill there thinnest position with Landon Collins and draft some WR.

I hate being right. Grigson is one of the worst GM's in the league.

[Droford]

Colts drafted a WR #makesnosense

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Yeah WR makes less than zero sense for the Colts. Don't get that at all.</font>

[Emperor Smeat]

Reports are Pats have traded out of the first round.

Pats just debunked it. Knowing BB, probably was trying to do that even though he really needs to get some quality CBs and maybe Ss as soon as possible.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Dorsett, A. Johnson, Moncrief, Hilton, Fleener, D. Allen

Continue to ignore the offensive line and secondary</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>LOL @ the one white guy at Damarious Randall's draft party</font>

[Emperor Smeat]

Disappointed at the lack of booing for the Pack pick. Thought Bears fans would drown the announcement like Jets fans do for Pats picks in the past.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Disappointed at the lack of booing for the Pack pick. Thought Bears fans would drown the announcement like Jets fans do for Pats picks in the past.

They booed the right amount. Bears fans made the commish say "with the 30th pick" two or three times. No need to insult the player on the biggest night of his career.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Pats should have just trolled the league by letting the clock run out on the pick just to see what happens.</font>

[Crimson]

Replacement for Wilfork. Nice pick