NFL Thread

[DaveBrawl]

Ray Rice gets a 2 game suspension.

[DaveBrawl]

Question about Rice. How does "retiring" affect things like free agent status, contract commitment etc? I know it's come up tons of times before (Favre being a recent example) but I forget how it all played out. If a player "retires" then say, in Rice's case, his body cooperates and 2 years later tries to break back into the league, are they just a UFA at that point? Would Seattle get any compensation? What's to stop players from retiring willy-nilly to get out of contracts? (legitimate question, I do not actually know how any of it works)

When Carson Palmer "retired" rather than keep playing for Cincy they kept the rights to him and were able to trade him when they got a deal worked out.

[screech]

Ray Rice gets a 2 game suspension.

People on my Facebook are losing their shit over this (that it's only two games).

Of course, I am poking fun at them by saying it's because Ray "learned and grew" from the experience.

[road doggy dogg]

It's baffling that Rice gets 2 games and Josh Gordon gets 16 for weed.

I get it, multiple offenses etc. But still.

[Wehttam]

if he hit her with weed his career would be over

[Droford]

the best part of a 2 game suspension is the Ravens play their first two games on Sunday/Thursday so they pretty much get it out of the way in a hurry. Plus with the Thursday night game its not like he would have been 100% anyway. It is 2 division games early but its 2 games they wouldn't have used him much anyway.

[RoXer]

the best part of a 2 game suspension is the Ravens play their first two games on Sunday/Thursday so they pretty much get it out of the way in a hurry.

:roll::roll::roll::roll::roll::roll::roll::roll::roll::roll:

[Droford]

it is a big benefit, he'll be able to get back to practicing with the team a couple days earlier than if the 2nd game was on a Sunday.

[road doggy dogg]

Yeah Thursday games fucking suck anyway, he lucked out by not having to play that shit

[road doggy dogg]

Man. I remember when Flacco signed his contract I thought they way overpaid, but this is ridiculous.

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/baltimore-ravens/joe-flacco/

That 2016 cap hit... yikes. They can get rid of him after that and "only" have a cap hit of 15.3M in dead money, or pay him..... $31M.

Like, Christ. I know he had arguably the best playoffs ever in 2012, but that seems a bit absurd to me.

Droford, how do you feel about paying Flacco $28.5M in two years. That's gotta be worse than Stafford's or Bradford's contracts.

[screech]

Insane considering some of that could have helped other positions. Unless Flacco would have heeled it up and demanded the raise and stuff. Doesn't "seem" like he'd do that, though.

Semi-related, I miss Boldin :(

[Ruien]

It seems like teams are to desperate to hold on to a decent/good quarterback they will pay the guy an absurd amount of money every time. Can't wait to see how much Andy Dalton gets paid after this year.

[screech]

If Andy Dalton gets a massive contract, I...well I don't know what I'll do but he stinks.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Yeah Flacco's deal is ridiculous. I feel like he would have agreed to a long-term extension with a really good pay increase, but they still seemed to give him way more than they had to. When 2016 rolls around and Flacco's cap hit goes up big time, they will likely be able to free up room by getting him to restructure via converting some of his base salary into a restructuring bonus for future years, but that means it'll be even more money that he's guaranteed later on when he's already set to make a ridiculous amount.

Restructuring catches up with you though after a while. Eli restructured his deal each year from like 2011-2013 and it's at the point where they just can't do it any more, he gets like $9 million a year just in restructuring bonuses now.</font>

[Droford]

Man. I remember when Flacco signed his contract I thought they way overpaid, but this is ridiculous.

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/baltimore-ravens/joe-flacco/

That 2016 cap hit... yikes. They can get rid of him after that and "only" have a cap hit of 15.3M in dead money, or pay him..... $31M.

Like, Christ. I know he had arguably the best playoffs ever in 2012, but that seems a bit absurd to me.

Droford, how do you feel about paying Flacco $28.5M in two years. That's gotta be worse than Stafford's or Bradford's contracts.

one thing no one mentions is that the salary cap is going up. 2014 went up $10 million over 2013 to $133 million. if the cap is $140+, his salary won't be as much of an albatross as everyone says, and no doubt they'll restructure it to a more manageable figure anyway. Flacco's deal being worse than Stafford and Bradford's is ridiculous since neither of them have won a playoff game, much less a Super Bowl. Same thing will go for Andy Dalton when he gets a huge contract. Befuddles me why teams want to pay big money to QBs who can put stats up all day but either can't win games or they do but choke late season/playoffs.

Also on the Ravens front, Aaron Ross tore his Achilles already and is done for the year. They signed another former Giant Will Hill but he's out 6 games for a drug suspension but should be a solid option to have in the 2nd half.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>In Colts camp, Vick Ballard went down with another injury, torn Achilles. Now would be a good time for Trent Richardson to try and revive his career.

And now Kendall Hunter tore his ACL. Guess this is why the 49ers draft RBs by the bushel.</font>

[RP]

I'm calling this shit right here. Right now. The Colts are winning the Superbowl this year. Andrew Luck wIll be MVP and Trent Richardson will rush for 1300 yards and 13 td's.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I've done some "preliminary" predictions but I keep winding up with the same championship games as last year. I really don't want to see Peyton/Brady part 5 million but I'd be willing to bet at least one of them does get their team to the AFC Title game if not both. And a Seattle/San Fran NFC title game rematch is going to be predicted by pretty much everybody.

Gotta wait til at least the 3rd week of preseason to see how many game-changing players go down with major injuries before I make my "official" predictions.</font>

[The Condor]

Richie Incognito hurts a guys feelings and essentially loses his career. Ray Rice goes Mortal Combat on a woman and gets two games.

[McLegend]

It's totally ridiculous and makes no sense, but I am going to play devils advocate... Kind of

I would say because there wasn't proof that he hit her. I feel like he could argue something like she passed out and he caught her? I don't think that tape would hold up in a court of law. I don't think you could get a conviction with that footage.


On the flip side... Roger Goodell has suspended people for far less crimes with even less proof.

So yeah again it's really dumb and stupid that Ray Rice only got 2 games.

[Droford]

I'm pretty surprised the video of what happened inside the elevator hasn't managed to have been leaked by now. Part of me thinks its because whatever did happen wasn't damning enough one way or another.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Don't look now but the New York Football Giants are on pace for 24-0! :eek: :shifty:

Anyway, onto the game itself. The running game seemed to be an improvement from last year straight away. I liked what I saw out of Jennings and especially Andre Williams in the first quarter when the starters were in. Williams is that much more important this year with David Wilson's NFL future extremely questionable. I had read only like 30% of the Ben McAdoo playbook had been installed, mostly runs, and it showed. Not much at all to talk about in the passing game as they stuck to routine dump offs an such, but I do see that they're focusing on implementing a quick release passing game. Between that and a having a better O-line I think Eli won't be getting swarmed on nearly every pass play.

First string D seemed pretty crisp for this early in the preseason. Again not much to go off of but I did love the moves they made in the offseason and it's nice to finally have some depth in the secondary, so here's hoping they can get through preseason healthy.

Oh and I was pumped that the one big pass play from the Giants was a bomb of a TD to Corey Washington. I tried taking a guess at the 53-man roster on the Giants message board and was one of the few to pick him for the team. The Giants WRs are undersized and while that isn't everything, if the big 6'4" kid can have a big preseason he'd be a guy to mix in, plus I'm not sure he'd clear waivers for the practice squad.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>And there it is. Bengals sign Andy Dalton to a 6-year, $115 million extension.

Nice investment in mediocrity there, Cincy.</font> :y:

[road doggy dogg]

Dalton is so fucking bad

[screech]

Management must have Dalton in fantasy.

[Innovator]

Giants RB David Wilson shut down for the season, maybe career.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I feel so bad for Wilson, but it's for the best. Can't really mess around with neck injuries.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Giants are placing Wilson on injured reserve rather than him formally retiring so that he can still be paid for this season. Nice.</font>

[Ruien]

It seems like teams are to desperate to hold on to a decent/good quarterback they will pay the guy an absurd amount of money every time. Can't wait to see how much Andy Dalton gets paid after this year.

Lol. Amazing. They even paid him a year early.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

WHATEVER GUYS

Andy's gonna prove you all wrong and win 800 Super Bowls and you'll be all like "I was so wrong and Supreme Olajuwon was so right" and your friends will be like "Who the f is Supreme Olajuwon?" and you'll be all like "Oh just this guy at the wrestling message board I post at" and they'll be all like "You post at a wrestling message board? That's pretty gay" and you'll be all like "Nah it's a pretty chill place" and they'll be all like "why would you post about football on a message board for wrestling" and you'll be all like "Well it's a wrestling message board in the sense that it's run by a wrestling website and most people there are wrestling fans, but we talk about other stuff too" and they'll be all like "Oh word? Are there any other interesting features about it" and you'll be all like "Yeah sometimes we give each other colored dots depending on how much we like or dislike a post" and they'll be all like "Dude we can't hang out anymore" and then you'll be all like "Damn I have no friends. None of this woulda happened if I just respected Andy Dalton's game."


Just wait. You'll see.

[Ruien]

I hope he does well because I like the team they are building. It is just crazy how much certain organizations pay to keep their average/better than average quarterback.

[Droford]

Joe Flacco at least won a Super Bowl, and he could win another one.

[Droford]

NFL betting starts in Delaware tomorrow, definitely going to put a few bucks on the Ravens to win the "pro football championship" since they're around 40-1 right now.

might drop $5 or $10 on the Cardinals at 55-1, but they do have the problem of the Super Bowl being in Arizona..

[screech]

Has the "host team" made the superbowl ever? What is the protocol there?

[Droford]

The 49ers played SB 19 at Stanford and the LA Rams played SB 14 at the Rose Bowl, those are the closest but no team has played the SB in its home stadium.

the bigger "curse" is the fact that the last team to host the SB and even make the playoffs was the 2000 Buccaneers.

[road doggy dogg]

I think the issue of being in a really good division is going to be more of a problem for Arizona than any coincidental nonsense like that.

ugh hate saying "really good division" when talking about NFC West

[screech]

I was hoping ARI would "sneak in" and grab a playoff spot last year.

Still hope that happens. The further Kaepernick is from the Superbowl the better. Can't stand him.

[road doggy dogg]

I haven't quite fully gotten into football mode yet. Don't even know what's going on right now. Haven't looked at betting odds for teams. Have to lay some CHEDDA down once season gets close to starting.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I just have a hard time seeing a 3rd team coming out of the NFC West. They'll be beating the crap out of each other all year. Seattle and SF are the far safer bets to get to January, though.

I think 2 teams are coming out of the North. Packers and Bears both look like they should have really good offenses and the Lions seem to be a bit of an enigma that could go either way.</font>

[Innovator]

Someone can tell me the Lions will go 5-11 or 10-6 and I won't think they're crazy. I have no gauge on them.

[road doggy dogg]

Yep, that's the Lions. They're a textbook "good-bad" team. They're not quite on the level of your Clevelands or Jacksonvilles, but nowhere near competent enough to be considered an actual threat to do anything. They could just as easily fluke themselves into a playoff spot but they don't have a solid enough core/foundation to really do anything with it.

Maybe things will be different with the new coaching staff but I'm not holding my breath.


And don't get me wrong, being mediocre and in limbo is certainly a much better place to be than constant cellar-dwellers, so even though the next few years will ultimately be fruitless, at least it's not pure misery to watch.

[Droford]

first parlay of the season

Ravens -1.5 vs 49ers
Redskins -1.5 vs Patriots
Colts +3.5 @ Jets
Seahawks -1.5 @ Broncos

only wagered $25 cause I'm not completely a degenerate gambler.

Also, how about that Jerry Jones?

[road doggy dogg]

lol betting on preseason

[Droford]

I've won a couple preseason bets, its not that hard.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

first parlay of the season

Ravens -1.5 vs 49ers
Redskins -1.5 vs Patriots
Colts +3.5 @ Jets
Seahawks -1.5 @ Broncos

only wagered $25 cause I'm not completely a degenerate gambler.

Also, how about that Jerry Jones?

I think betting on pre-season is the definition of a degenerate gambler.

[Kris P Lettus]

lol betting on preseason

Lol

4real

[Kris P Lettus]

STD is the worst

[road doggy dogg]

I mean, I have a buddy that would bet on WNBA games, so I've seen the depths of depravity.

I just don't think I could muster up the willpower to watch more than 10 minutes of a preseason game that even involved my Lions

[Innovator]

If you're betting on the preseason, there's a group for that Droford

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Could never imagine betting on the preseason. That's ridiculous.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I do usually watch the entierty of Giants preseason games, though. It's not a top priority like it is with a regular season game, but if I'm home I'll definitely watch to see how the new guys perform and see what unknowns can end up impressing enough to make the roster. It's especially interesting this year as the new offense should (theoretically) come together more as the preseason moves on.

I can't help but have a nice chuckle though when there's an undrafted rookie who will have a monster preseason and the fans will then clamor for them to make the team only for them to get upset when the player ends up being inactive nearly every week (Victor Cruz in 2010, Adewale Ojomo in 2012, etc.) Corey Washington might be that guy this year. They impress enough to make the team but if they can't contribute on special teams they are really just on the 53 to develop them for the next year or two when there might actually be an opening on the depth chart.</font>

[Innovator]

I like watching the preseason because the guys on the bubble are usually busting their asses to make the team

[Innovator]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BucKZKyIMAA6eKN.jpg

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>The NFC East should be a tight battle again as per usual. 9 or 10 wins should get it done. Most everybody is picking the Eagles to steamroll through it but with how tight the divisional games tend to be I really think any of the 4 teams have a shot. Nothing would surprise me.</font>

[road doggy dogg]

I feel the same way. I don't think the Eagles will surprise anyone this year. Could easily see any of the 4 teams taking that division.

[Droford]

I mean, I have a buddy that would bet on WNBA games, so I've seen the depths of depravity.

I just don't think I could muster up the willpower to watch more than 10 minutes of a preseason game that even involved my Lions

that's because they usually play the browns at least once
I feel the same way. I don't think the Eagles will surprise anyone this year. Could easily see any of the 4 teams taking that division.

Its the Cowboys year..if they can't win the division this year, it won't happen with Garrett and Romo.

I think betting on pre-season is the definition of a degenerate gambler.
I only bet $25, which is nothing. 10x that would be degenerate

[Evil Vito]

I feel the same way. I don't think the Eagles will surprise anyone this year. Could easily see any of the 4 teams taking that division.

<font color=goldenrod>Yeah. I totally get why everybody thinks the Eagles will have the best offense in the division after last year, but it's not a sure thing. The thought of McCoy and Sproles both coming out of the backfield is pretty terrifying, but I'm not ready to christen Foles as the next big thing just yet. I'd need to see what he does with a full season after people have had a year to study him and the Chip Kelly offense.

Will probably just pick the Giants once I get around to posting predictions. If it's this close of a race I'd feel like a bit of a dick picking against my team.</font> :o

[road doggy dogg]

I just think that once teams figure out how to stop their screen/bubble pass game, the rest of their offense will fall apart. Especially without Desean there to take the top off the defense. Riley Cooper and Jeremy Maclin shouldn't put too much fear into peoples' eyes.

[road doggy dogg]

And yes @Droford I agree, re: Cowboys' window this season. I don't think there's a true runaway in the division. If they aren't going to do it this year then I don't think they ever will.

[Droford]

Ravens offense looking good. Defense not so much but they held in the red zone.

[Droford]

Jets punter sucks. Forget the qb battle, they need one for the punter

[Droford]

lol jets had the ball at the colts 19 and ended up 3rd and 41 after penalties and a botched snap

[Droford]

first parlay of the season

Ravens -1.5 vs 49ers
Redskins -1.5 vs Patriots
Colts +3.5 @ Jets
Seahawks -1.5 @ Broncos

only wagered $25 cause I'm not completely a degenerate gambler.

Also, how about that Jerry Jones?

currently rooting for that last game to be canceled so I can cash out on the 3 team parlay. $100 less but I'll take it

[Droford]

mike flacco sighting in SD

[McLegend]

Guys there is going to be a QB controversy in Philadelphia at some point in the near future.

I'm telling you it's going to happen.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Only if Foles gets hurt. He had an amazing season last year. One bad pre-season game can't negate a full season of kicking ass.

[Evil Vito]

Sigh. Nice to see McAdoo left the 3rd and 15 shotgun draw play in the playbook.

[Evil Vito]

And there it is again on 3rd and 19. I guess they still haven't installed any passing plays.

[Innovator]

Line play is better, seeing some good holes

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Ref crew is a joke. Fumble successfully challenged but they can't tell who recovered the ball even though a Brown is in a video of having full possession.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

And there it is again on 3rd and 19. I guess they still haven't installed any passing plays.

Most teams do that. Just trying to get a few extra yards for field positioning on the punt instead of trying to get it all back and getting nothing.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Johnny Football's NFL debut after the break.

[Evil Vito]

Most teams do that. Just trying to get a few extra yards for field positioning on the punt instead of trying to get it all back and getting nothing.

Yeah, I'd expect it in a regular season game. The shotgun draw play is just a Gilbride staple and should be eliminated forever.

[Evil Vito]

Line play is better, seeing some good holes

Yeah I like what I've seen from the line. Opening up good holes in the run game.

Since the next 2 games figure to be the last time the starters get significant time I hope they finally get some pass plays installed by next week, both for the receivers to get their routes sorted and for the line to get some serious time pass blocking.

[RP]

CAN YOU FEEL THE ELECTRICITY??

[RP]

IT'S JOHNNY FOOTBALL TIME!!!!!

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>The amount of defensive penalties being called already seems to be a bit ludicrous. I know "it's preseason for the refs too" and everything but damn. It seems receivers can't be touched at all now without getting flagged for illegal contact. I bet coaches will instruct their receivers to draw contact as much as possible.

Pretty much gonna mean every pass ends up being a pure jump ball.</font>

[road doggy dogg]

As a team with defensive backs who can't get to receivers anyway, I feel this levels the playing field for the Lions.

[Innovator]

http://uproxx.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/jerry-jones-boobs.jpg?w=650&h=453

[RP]

THAT A BOY JERRY! THATABOY!

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Cowboys CB Orlando Scandrick suspended 4 games for violating the NFL's performance-enhancing drug policy. <a href="http://t.co/oTjtte1svL">pic.twitter.com/oTjtte1svL</a></p>&mdash; SportsCenter (@SportsCenter) <a href="https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/statuses/499041165854134272">August 12, 2014</a></blockquote>
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[road doggy dogg]

Making rice's 2 games look even better.

[Kris P Lettus]

He said a girl put mdma in a drink without him knowing

Lol

[screech]

Making rice's 2 games look even better.

But did Scandrick learn and grow from his incident????

[James Steele]

The NFL is turning into a fucking joke.

[Innovator]

4 game suspension for Steele for slander

[Innovator]

http://uproxx.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/cowboys-tattoo.jpg?w=650&h=360

[road doggy dogg]

NFL considering tougher penalties for future domestic violence cases, including possible one-year ban (http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/sports/wp/2014/08/13/nfl-considering-tougher-penalties-for-future-domestic-violence-cases-including-possible-one-year-ban/)

The NFL is considering toughening its penalties for players who commit acts of domestic violence, including a potential one-year ban for a second offense, according to multiple people familiar with the league’s recent deliberations.

The prospective new policy, if it is implemented, could establish guidelines for a suspension of four to six games without pay for a first offense and potentially a season-long suspension for a second incident, according to those with knowledge of the matter. They spoke on the condition of anonymity due to the sensitivity of the topic and because no final decision has been made by the league on implementing the policy.

The contemplated changes, if they are made by the NFL, would come after the league and Commissioner Roger Goodell have been criticized heavily for the two-game suspension imposed on Baltimore Ravens running back Ray Rice for allegedly striking Janay Palmer, the woman who is now his wife. Many media members and other observers have called Rice’s suspension insufficient and said it sends the wrong message about the league’s attitude toward domestic violence.

It was not clear if the potential new policy faces any significant obstacles to being put into effect.

“We need to have stricter penalties,” said one person with knowledge of the league’s deliberations on the matter. “I think you will see that. I believe the commissioner and others would like to see stricter penalties. We need to be more vigilant.”

That person said Goodell and the league “tried to stick with precedent” from previous NFL disciplinary measures when deciding on the length of Rice’s suspension.

“A lot of us were disturbed by what we saw” in the Rice case, the person said. “I think you will see something in probably the next few weeks. A first offense could be four to six games, definitely more than two. A second offense might be a year.”

A second person who had been briefed on the matter confirmed that the increased penalties are under consideration. That person said he did not know if it is definite that the new policy will be enacted nor when the new policy, if implemented, might go into effect.

The NFL declined to comment through a spokesman.

Two people with close ties to the NFL Players Association said the union was not involved in the deliberations.

Rice’s suspension resulted from an incident in February in which he allegedly struck Palmer, then his fiancée, in a hotel elevator in Atlantic City. Video became public showing Rice pulling an apparently unconscious Palmer from the elevator. The couple later married. Rice pleaded not guilty to a third-degree aggravated assault charge and avoided trial when he was accepted into a pretrial intervention program.

Rice was suspended from the Ravens’ first two games of the upcoming season without pay and was fined an additional game check based on last season’s salary. He will lose about $529,000 from the NFL’s penalty.

Goodell has defended the length of the suspension. When he spoke to reporters while in Canton, Ohio, for the Pro Football Hall of Fame induction ceremonies, he said that the punishment “has to be consistent with other cases, and it was in this matter.”

[road doggy dogg]

not using the stupid WWJD editting tools.. story from Washington Post

[Nark Order]

It is a little silly that Ray Rice gets a two games suspension for beating the shit out of his significant other and Josh Gordon is out an entire season for marijuana. I get that he has several offenses, but the severity of the crime should be taken into account. Smoking weed does nothing and beating a woman is a ridiculously severe crime.

[road doggy dogg]

I really hate beating a dead horse but I hope there's enough dissent as a result of this that they look at their punishment system for domestic violence and make changes to it. Even Scandrick, first-time offender, gets 4 games for MDMA and Rice only gets 2... incredible.

[Droford]

The Ravens have 14 points with 6 min to go in the 1st quarter and the offense hasn't even had 1 play. Fumble for a TD and a 108 yard kick return. lol Cowpokes

[Evil Vito]

Eli Manning: 1 for 7, 6 yards.

christ

[road doggy dogg]

oh yeah, preseason is happening

[owenbrown]

Tennessee made it a game against the Saints but lost.... the penalties were ridiculous for both teams... I think if a player sneezes this season we'll be seeing yellow all over the field every game.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Giants were losing 26-0 heading into the 4th quarter and then won 27-26. lol what.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Corey Washington has to be a lock at this point. 3 TDs in 3 weeks and the only tall WR on the roster. Manningham unfortunately seems like his knee is hampering him so there's definitely a spot there for the taking.</font>

[Kris P Lettus]

http://vimeo.com/m/103598051

[Kris P Lettus]

http://giant.gfycat.com/MeekKindAnura.gif

[Droford]

Ravens have still never lost to Dallas.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

They will wouldn't have lost to Dallas had they "lost" this game. Why are you so obsessed with thinking pre-season games matter except for the Coaches to evaluate talent?

You tried to make "Grapefruit League Champion" a thing this year.

[James Steele]

I feel like eventually, the ridiculous penalties and overall direction of the NFL will begin to hurt its bottom line. There will soon be a generation that doesn't care about the NFL all that much. Still make 100s of millions instead of billions.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

They are going in the direction of the Arena Football League with these defensive penalties.

Seems they want to kill the idea that defense wins championships.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Legit glad to see Michael Sam playing well. The best case scenario was always that he played well and made the team based on his on-field performance. If he had a terrible preseason you know it would have been a shitstorm whether they decided to keep him or not.</font>

[Droford]

They will wouldn't have lost to Dallas had they "lost" this game. Why are you so obsessed with thinking pre-season games matter except for the Coaches to evaluate talent?

You tried to make "Grapefruit League Champion" a thing this year.

Ravens are 5-0 vs the Cowboys, Only other team with an undefeated record vs another team is the Texans who are 8-0 vsthe Dolphins, they are also 3-0 vs bears.

[James Steele]

Nobody cares.

[James Steele]

How many teams have are undefeated against the Cowboys since 1996 when only playing them 5 or less times?

[road doggy dogg]

Nobody cares.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Ravens are 5-0 vs the Cowboys, Only other team with an undefeated record vs another team is the Texans who are 8-0 vsthe Dolphins, they are also 3-0 vs bears.

Expansion teams are undefeated against teams they only face every once in awhile?

:eek:

How many of your games in that list are pre-season?

Nobody cares.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

SO happy to have Jerome Boger back in my life

[#1-norm-fan]

Preseason football is life.

[Ruien]

Why with all the hate on Droford? If he likes preseason good for him. I wish i did, would be able to enjoy more football that way.

[road doggy dogg]

Nothing against Droford, but c'mon. Preseason football is fucking awful.

[DrA]

Make fun of Droford all you want, but at the end of the day he's the one laughing all the way to the bank with coupons in hand.

[OssMan]

while the kota back was in the pocket

holden

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Odell Beckham re-injures his hamstring for the 3rd time in as many months, ruled out vs. the Jets where he was expected to finally get into a game.

Starting to doubt he'll play at all this season. Hamstring injuries take months and months to heal properly. Ugh.</font>

[Ermaximus]

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/Qmp5YW_oLc8" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

I like our new QB.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Brian Hoyer officially named the Browns' Week 1 starting QB to the surprise of nobody except ESPN.</font>

[RoXer]

Johnny Backup
Johnny Clipboard
Johnny Bench
Johnny

[Vastardikai]

Johnny Backup
Johnny Clipboard
Johnny Bench
Johnny

Johnny Thankful He won't get eaten alive by people sick of his shit?

[RoXer]

no

[#1-norm-fan]

It appears Jim Kelly doesn't have the cancer anymore. Hooray for Jim Kelly.

[Evil Vito]

Giants O-line can't do a god damn thing in the passing game. Eli is running for his life on every play. And now Schwartz got carted off.

Fuck.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Johnny Backup
Johnny Clipboard
Johnny Bench
Johnny

Johnny Towel-Warmer.

[Ermaximus]

Just stop....

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>The Giants' first string passing game finally put together a great drive. 2-minute drill, going 91 yards for a TD on mainly passing plays. Was glad Coughlin didn't bring them back out for the 3rd quarter. Let them Costanza it - leave on a high note. Geoff Schwartz dislocated a toe so that's certainly not a good thing with an already thin line. He'll likely be out a couple of weeks. Hopefully Beckham finally gets into a game the last week of preseason, I'd feel better about him if I could actually see him play.

Ryan Nassib has played great the last 2 games, yes primarily against backups and third stringers, but I think he's certainly played well enough to warrant being the only backup QB. A 3rd QB is a waste of a roster space in today's NFL. You're probably screwed if your starter gets knocked out for a long time, and regardless there is never a shortage of veteran QBs on the market to bring in as an extra backup later on if needed.

And Corey Washington with his 4th TD in as many games. His 53-man roster spot has to be secure by now, the only question is whether or not Coughlin will give him any sort of playing time in the regular season.</font>

[Ermaximus]

Vito, the Giants need to threaten to fire Coughlin again. They'll likely win another Super Bowl.

Loving what I am seeing from Bortles though. He'll be the starter by game 3 at least. Henne just isn't a good starter. Manageable backup at best, but starter, no.

[Tom Guycott]

<font color=goldenrod>Brian Hoyer officially named the Browns' Week 1 starting QB to the surprise of nobody except ESPN.</font>

Just wait until week 2 or 3 where he has a bad couple of series' drives, and the team panics and let Manziel come in to "save the day". ESPN will have the QB controversy they clamor for. The allure of instant jersey/merch sales and knee-jerk fan pacification will trump a long range plan of trying to build a winning franchise.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Matt Prater suspended 4 games. And Wes Welker concussed again.</font>

[ClockShot]

Prater's suspension is weird. Official word is coming down tomorrow.

Won't be surprised if Welker doesn't make it through the entire season. This is getting out of hand now.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Sam Bradford out for the year. Torn ACL.</font>

[Droford]

Rams didn't have much of a chance in that division anyway, but Shaun Hill as the QB is going to make it worse

[ClockShot]

Heh. Could have sworn that the headline this morning was "Sam Bradford's ACL was fine". Or something of the like.

Wonder what SammyG is thinking right about now?

[Emperor Smeat]

Prater's suspension is weird. Official word is coming down tomorrow.

Won't be surprised if Welker doesn't make it through the entire season. This is getting out of hand now.

That is what 3 or 4 times within a year for Welker now?

Had a bunch of concussion problems and scares while he was on the Pats as well.

[ClockShot]

Yeah. Me thinks he needs some extra padding in that helmet of his. Or he's gonna be the poster boy the concussion issue NFL is dealing with right now.

[Kris P Lettus]

Brees and the first teamers looked really good last night. The only time the Colts threatened was when Hasselbeck came in. Defense had Luck shook like a mother fucker.

[Evil Vito]

Rams didn't have much of a chance in that division anyway, but Shaun Hill as the QB is going to make it worse

<font color=goldenrod>I didn't think they'd win the division, but I figured they'd at least be in the mix for a wild card. Now there's probably like a 100% chance they finish last in division.

Jameis Winston should start shopping for crab legs in St. Louis.</font>

[RoXer]

<font color=goldenrod>I didn't think they'd win the division, but I figured they'd at least be in the mix for a wild card.</font>

That means you thought they'd be 2nd in the division.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Not really. "In the mix" means they're in the hunt late in the season. I figured Seattle and San Francisco were playoff locks but if any division could produce 3 playoff teams, it's the NFC West. If you were to tell me Arizona or St. Louis would be the 2nd wild card I wouldn't have been surprised.

Arizona is still in play but I'm willing to rule St. Louis out now after the Bradford injury.</font>

[RoXer]

<font color=goldenrod>I figured Seattle and San Francisco were playoff locks but if any division could produce 3 playoff teams, it's the NFC West.

Arizona is still in play

So you like the whole West to go to the playoffs

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>75% of the West, yes</font>

[road doggy dogg]

ESPN Boston seems to think Stevan Ridley won't even make the 53-man roster.

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-england-patriots/post/_/id/4766441/new-england-patriots-projected-roster-6

wat

[road doggy dogg]

Richie Incognito going for a tryout with the Bucs. Ridiculous that he's still unsigned. As if he's the only mean person in the NFL.

[DaveBrawl]

Never really cared for Richie Incognito. Nothing really to do with this whole bullying thing, but I watched him a couple of times with the Rams, and he really seemed like a less than medicore player..then he tried to hit some dude with his helmet. I mean I know the Bills and Dolphins struggled for depth and talent while he was there, but he never struck me as someone worth the hassle he always brings.

[road doggy dogg]

Yeah he's kind of a shitbag, but he's graded out positively the past few seasons and definitely would help out teams that are hurting on the line

[Droford]

I'm 99% confident that 1 of the NFC Wild Cards is from the west but it'd be very hard for two.

[Emperor Smeat]

ESPN Boston seems to think Stevan Ridley won't even make the 53-man roster.

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-england-patriots/post/_/id/4766441/new-england-patriots-projected-roster-6

wat

Really doubt he's actually getting cut and their issue with Ridley's low carries is probably Belichick wanting to see more of the other RBs not named Vereen than anything special.

[Emperor Smeat]

Steelers coach Mike Tomlin reiterated Monday that Le'Veon Bell and LeGarrette Blount will be punished after getting arrested on marijuana possession charges Wednesday, shortly before the team flew to Philadelphia for a preseason game the following night. Tomlin said the Steelers have not ruled out suspending Bell, who was also charged with driving under the influence, and Blount.
According to NFL rules, NFL can also suspend them but wouldn't take effect till next season if the Steelers punish them first.

[Kris P Lettus]

Bowman on PUP

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000383639/article/navorro-bowman-marcus-lattimore-out-until-week-7?campaign=Facebook_atl_wesseling

[Emperor Smeat]

The New England Patriots have traded six-time Pro Bowl guard Logan Mankins to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers for tight end Tim Wright and an undisclosed draft pick.

Mixed feelings on that trade. Rather have kept Mankins for the O-line protection but TE spot has been a bigger issue ever since Aaron Hernandez got arrested.

[road doggy dogg]

great trade for Bucs IMO

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Whoa. I figured Mankins was a Foxboro lifer.</font>

[road doggy dogg]

@Vito, Giants traded some kicker (Brandon McManus) to Broncos for a conditional 7th

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>That's pretty sweet. McManus looked really good in preseason but there was no way in hell Coughlin was going to turn the kicking job over to a rookie unless Josh Brown had an awful preseason, which he didn't. So the Giants basically got something for a guy who was gonna otherwise be cut.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>So apparently the condition in the conditional 7th rounder the Broncos gave the Giants for McManus is that the Giants only get the pick if McManus is on Denver's roster after week 5. Seeing as that's when Prater returns from suspension, they almost certainly will release McManus after 4 games and not give up anything.

That makes sense really. Teams are increasingly reluctant to trade draft picks for good players, so a draft pick for an undrafted kicker seemed a bit odd.</font>

[road doggy dogg]

Ahh yeah that makes sense, still though if Prater has a setback and McManus is kicking well enough, they could keep him around an extra couple weeks if necessary. Doubtful, but if there's no attractive FAs... who knows.

Really can't lose either way I guess


I always thought the terms "condition _th round pick" meant, say in this case it was a 7th that could escalate, but makes sense this way too

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Yeah basically the only way the Broncos wouldn't bring Prater back week 5 is if he gets hurt or something.

Supposedly the Eagles were going to claim McManus cause they've had kicking issues in preseason, so the Giants were really just playing keep-away. Smart.</font>

[road doggy dogg]

Henery has looked bad this preseason. Eagles just traded for some scrub kicker from the Colts last week too

[screech]

Henery has looked bad for a while.

[road doggy dogg]

I remember I was super hyped about him for fantasy purposes when he was drafted. Thankfully, LEGATRON set me straight

[Nark Order]

Ray Rice is laughing his ass off about Josh Gordon while beating the shit out of his girlfriend right now.

[screech]

*wife

This fact makes it okay to some "people"

[screech]

Sucks about Gordon, though. He.was fun to watch last year (even though lolBrowns)

[road doggy dogg]

It's okay, Johnny Football will go through his growing pains this year and be an NFL-caliber QB for Gordon next season. Browns will be unstoppable.

(jk lolcleveland)

[Ermaximus]

Bortles > Bridgewater > Manziel

Allan Hurns is also a beast. Fuck Justin Blackmon. We've got Allan Hurns!

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Sucks about Gordon, though. He.was fun to watch last year (even though lolBrowns)

Don't think weed should be that big of a deal, but he also had a DUI too.

[Droford]

So here are my predictions

AFC
East
Patriots
Bills
Dolphins
Jets

North
Ravens
Bengals
Steelers
Browns

South
Colts
Titans
Jaguars
Texans

West
Broncos
Chargers
Chiefs
Raiders

Wild Cards
Bengals & Chargers

NFC

East
Eagles
Giants
Cowboys
Redskins

South
Saints
Panthers
Falcons
Buccaneers

North
Packers
Bears
Lions
Vikings

West
Seahawks
Cardinals
49ers
Rams

Wild Cards
Cardinals & Bears

[road doggy dogg]

I've yet to make any 'official' (i.e. financially-backed) predictions yet but those look pretty good. I still think the NFC East is a crapshoot though.

Any particular reason you're down on the 49ers this year?

[road doggy dogg]

Gordon wants to play in the CFL this year, but CFL rules don't allow players under NFL contract to play. The Browns would have to cut him in order for this to happen, which is not gonna happen.

[Evil Vito]

I've yet to make any 'official' (i.e. financially-backed) predictions yet but those look pretty good. I still think the NFC East is a crapshoot though.

Any particular reason you're down on the 49ers this year?

<font color=goldenrod>I think a lot of people are down on the Niners because of how bad the offense has looked in the preseason. I dunno though. I think they'll be good enough to get the 5 seed. Preseason is like 97% meaningless as far as evaluation of performance is concerned. Only time it may actually matter is when a team is rolling out a brand new scheme.

Actually that's the reason I'm going into the season with tempered expectations. Except for one drive the Giants offense has looked lost. I do think they'll finally hit their stride a few weeks into the season, but the easiest part of their schedule is early on. Hoping they don't give away games they should win since the second half will be brutal.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Also I really wish Coughlin would sit his starters tonight. He said they'll get 15-18 snaps. Why bother? It's not enough of a sample size to mean anything and it's just risking injury. They can't afford anyone else getting hurt.</font>

[road doggy dogg]

Basing anything off the preseason is a very poor way to evaluate things. It literally means nothing. Even if the starters are playing deep into games (3rd/4th week), the coaches are playing things close to the vest to not give away schemes etc. I just don't see how the 49ers, arguably a better team than Seattle even last year, are being disregarded because of a couple of dress rehearsals.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Yeah it's crazy. The Niners will be very good. I thought long and hard about making them my NFC rep for the Super Bowl, actually. Wouldn't surprise me at all.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I'll throw my quick predictions in:

AFC East
Patriots
Jets
Dolphins
Bills

AFC North
Ravens
Steelers (Wild Card 2)
Bengals
Browns

AFC South
Colts
Texans
Titans
Jaguars

AFC West
Broncos
Chargers (Wild Card 1)
Chiefs
Raiders

Pats, Colts, and Broncos would all seem to be safe bets. I think the AFC North will be strong, the Ravens just barely missed out last year. I see 2 teams emerging from that division. Despite having them missing the playoffs I don't think the Bengals will be awful, but every year a team everybody thinks will be really good ends up being a bit worse than expected and for some reason I think it'll be them. It might be my total lack of faith in Andy Dalton. Honorable mention: seriously considered the Jets for the 2nd WC, I think they'll actually be pretty good. I like their defense and think Chris Johnson will be a nice boost to their offense.

NFC East
Eagles
Giants
Cowboys
Redskins

NFC North
Packers
Bears (Wild Card 2)
Lions
Vikings

NFC South
Saints
Falcons
Panthers
Buccaneers

NFC West
Seahawks
49ers (Wild Card 1)
Cardinals
Rams

The East is wide open, any team can win. Just went with the Eagles since they're the "known" commodity but if they fell apart it wouldn't surprise me. The North should be tight, the Lions are impossible to forecast. Locked in on the Saints for the South, Panthers will come back down to Earth. Only have the Cardinals not getting the 2nd Wild Card because the division will beat the shit out of each other all year. Despite the brutal schedule Seahawks should get 6 or 7 home wins before even looking at the road games, so that pushes them to the top of the division.

Super Bowl: Seahawks over Colts. I don't think I've ever predicted a repeat winner before, it's not easy to do. But if they get homefield through the playoffs it'll be a huge boost for them...and they just have insane depth.</font>

[Nark Order]

The 49ers are going to valiantly defeat the Seahawks in the playoffs. Nobody worry.

[Emperor Smeat]

NFL passes new punishment rules for domestic abuse cases. 1st offense is a 6 game suspension while a second offense is a lifetime ban.

Making things interesting is the new rules allow the 1st penalty to be longer if the player has any past history with domestic abuse, hits a pregnant woman, or does it in front of a child. Players can also request for reinstatement after a year for the second offense but NFL hinted its not going to work.

[road doggy dogg]

Wow. Good for them, hope they stick to their guns.

[Droford]

I wonder if the penalty applies to Michael Sam if he beats up his boyfriend.

[road doggy dogg]

Such a fucking stupid post you just made, Droford.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Peyton Manning fined $8,268 for yelling at DJ Swearinger in the last preseason game.

1) That's an oddly specific number.
2) Good. It was a perfectly clean hit and that Welker got concussed is pretty much 100% on Peyton anyway. I've never seen a QB throw down the middle into heavy traffic more than him. Austin Collie says hello.</font>

[Droford]

Such a fucking stupid post you just made, Droford.

OK, better question: Does the penalty still count if an NFL player beats up a stripper at a strip club?

That's not domestic violence.

[Kris P Lettus]

Droford I am going to the game. I'll take to take pictures of Flacco's bum for you

[Droford]

going to be a lousy game even with backups considering they play again there on MNF in November

[Droford]

I did take the Ravens +3.5 though, cause of the .5 pt hook

[Droford]

Panthers have a RB named Fozzy Whittaker. Also have Jericho Cotchery. These are the little things that amuse me.

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Chiefs fan thinks about divorce. <a href="http://t.co/JHnzI86TlN">pic.twitter.com/JHnzI86TlN</a></p>&mdash; SB Nation GIF (@SBNationGIF) <a href="https://twitter.com/SBNationGIF/statuses/505173925760745473">August 29, 2014</a></blockquote>
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:lol:

[MTH15]

Droford I am going to the game. I'll take to take pictures of Flacco's bum for you

Lol we are going to slowly rip drew breezes heart from his mouth

[MTH15]

And last time I checked the Ravens are #Wenning lmao

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

NFL players better not marry any crazy chicks now. They could hurt themselves and blame it on the player and get them kicked out of the league.

[road doggy dogg]

I think that "risk" is far outweighed by the benefits of having a ruling like this in place.

[Droford]

Redskins want a new stadium, but something tells me it won't get built anywhere near Washington DC unless there's a name change or Snyder pays for the whole thing. Which is probably OK since its entirely stupid to be talking about replacing 17 year old football stadiums even if they are dumps #fedexisadump

[MTH15]

It might sound crazy. But I think instead of a new one he'd be better off remodeling rfk stadium. The history theres good, and no rings since they left it.

[Droford]

He wants a dome so they can host the Super Bowl.

[screech]

So just add a roof #lincolnlogs

[MTH15]

If thats the case Im hoping your right about it not being in Washington. But only due to the fact that a lot of people would be out of a home, like when they built Nationals Park.

[Clerk]

People still watch the NFL? #Prayers

[road doggy dogg]

Oh man, you're such a controversial poster in 2014!

[Clerk]

If i had no talent or no athletic ability, i'd go join the NFL

[DaveBrawl]

The idea of a Super Bowl around here with the way the traffic already is comparable to ancient road designs, is frightening.

Also the idea of the Redskins playing in a dome makes me very sad. Outdoor football in the weather is the best, especially for a team that used to make such a big deal out of being such a rough and tough team like the Skins.

[MTH15]

Exactly, at this rate every teams going to want one. And we have enough visitors as it is.

[Nark Order]

If i had no talent or no athletic ability, i'd go join the NFL

You'd probably be doing what you are doing right now.

[Clerk]

what?

[Kris P Lettus]

Clerk you are the worst

[Clerk]

The worst? How? I was THE POSTER OF THE TOTAL YEAR on Rajah

[road doggy dogg]

Sounds like the Bungles might be going committee approach, they're talking up Jeremy Hill and gave him mad carries last night. Gio Bernard going way too high in D&D drafts

[Ruien]

Not happy about the move but hopefully Gio proves himself during the regular season to become the running back again.

[DaveBrawl]

Aldon Smith suspended 9 games for violating the substance abuse and personal conduct policies.

[FearedSanctity]

YAY FOOTBALL

[Droford]

I find it funny Snyder wants to replace FedEx which opened in 1997 and is already falling apart

http://img.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/files/2014/08/fedexrfk814b.jpg

and yet the Ravens stadium opened in 1998 and is in much better condition..

[Nark Order]

Aldon is such a fuck up.

[Ermaximus]

The worst? How? I was THE POSTER OF THE TOTAL YEAR on Rajah

That's like saying you're the smartest kid in a special ed class.

[Innovator]

Corey Washington makes the cut for the Giants

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>No surprises there, he pretty much had to make it. He might actually see some snaps on opening night as he figures to be the #4 WR with Beckham probably not ready by then.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Trindon Holliday officially to injured reserve. What a bummer. Would have been fun to have him as a return man but he hurt his hamstring early on and didn't play at all in the preseason.

Sounds like the Giants will use their short-term IR option on Geoff Schwartz. Schwartz has said he'll probably miss 3-4 weeks but Coughlin is being extra cautious, giving him the short-term IR keeps him out for 8 games. Ugh.</font>

[Droford]

How long until there's protests of the Rams for releasing Michael Sam?

[Vastardikai]

He'll likely get put on the practice squad and, if something happens to someone on the team, he'll get signed from there.

[Ruien]

He put on a good showing. Someone will pick him up this year when some injuries happen.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Yeah, the Rams are loaded at DE. He'll either get claimed to another team's 53 man roster or he'll make the Rams practice squad. Only valid complaint would be if he ends up completely unemployed which I can't see happening.</font>

[Droford]

well just about every team passed on him in the draft so what are the odds someone like him off waivers? and if he's on the Rams practice squad..who cares.

[ClockShot]

Saints release Champ Bailey. Damn, would have like to have seen him get one more solid season under his belt. Maybe the Broncos will take him back?

[Emperor Smeat]

Ryan Mallett ended up surviving the roster cuts for the Pats while Stevan Ridley kept his spot and Jonas Gray cut for the RB corps. Bulk of the cuts ended up being from the secondary for the final round.

Texans still want Mallett and had the waiver claim ready had he been cut today.

[Ruien]

well just about every team passed on him in the draft so what are the odds someone like him off waivers? and if he's on the Rams practice squad..who cares.

That was before he had a awesome preseason.

[Droford]

Guarantee we'll have the Sam Rule where every NFL team has to at least try out a Gay player or coach.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Droford you are a fucking moron</font>

[Droford]

Just remember the NFL is the league that forces teams to interview at least one black coach when hiring new coaches for no other reason than because they're black..

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Because of years of racism where they weren't given any interviews at all even if they were the right man for the job. Just be glad they don't have the same rule for women or you'd be flipping your shit even more.

[Nark Order]

Droford. You are a really ignorant person.

[Nark Order]

Somebody will pick Sam up. Rams are stacked right now.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Not too many unexpected moves with the Giants cuts. Probably the biggest surprise is that Kerry Wynn made the team as an undrafted DE, and they kept 10 DL when most figured they'd keep 10. Can't say I really understand what they see in Markus Kuhn though, if they wanted to keep a 5th DT I would have preferred Kelcy Quarles who may not make it through to the practice squad.

I guess it makes sense though. The assumption was that the Giants would take some combination of 11 DBs, they wound up going with 10. They do have 5 genuinely good cornerbacks and will probably be able to stash Bennett Jackson, Thomas Gordon, and/or Chandler Fenner onto the practice squad so they should at least have some backup for when the inevitable injuries happen.

They also kept 10 OL which seems a bit excessive but then again a lot of them are banged and Geoff Schwartz is probably going on the short-term IR on Tuesday.

Wouldn't be too surprised if 2-3 players on the Giants' official opening night roster are guys who were just cut from elsewhere. Especially at TE. When Daniel Fells wins your starting TE job after being out of football last year, you know there's a problem.</font>

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

James Harrison has announced his retirement.

[Droford]

Because of years of racism where they weren't given any interviews at all even if they were the right man for the job. Just be glad they don't have the same rule for women or you'd be flipping your shit even more.

I'm sure some Women's group has pestered Roger Goodell enough about how the NFL makes bazillions of dollars, that they should be able to afford to subsidize a women's football league like the NBA does with the WNBA.

[screech]

I think you missed the point there, Droford.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Ryan Mallett finally traded to the Texans.</font>

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Damn it. I thought Mallet could have been the answer after Brady. A 6th round pick? Jesus Christ. They wanted him why not ask for more?

[Emperor Smeat]

Yeah that was the plan but Mallett kept struggling during every preseason.

The fact Mallett was only worth a very low draft pick is pretty bad but Jimmy Garoppolo was really good this preseason. Then again the only reason he wasn't cut earlier was because the Texans didn't want to wait until after the cuts to say he was their big waiver target.

[Emperor Smeat]

49ers Ray McDonald expected to be the first player punished by the NFL under the new domestic violence rules. Already some rumors the NFL might go higher than 6 games and 49ers preparing to release him.

San Francisco 49ers defensive tackle Ray McDonald has been arrested and charged with felony domestic violence, according to NBC Bay Area.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24689383/ers-dt-ray-mcdonald-charged-with-felony-domestic-violence

[Kris P Lettus]

Saints release Champ Bailey. Damn, would have like to have seen him get one more solid season under his belt. Maybe the Broncos will take him back?

He was obviously a camp body but I assumed we'd keep him for a year as a player/coach a la Vilma. He played alright Thursday but was def a step behind the younger WRs.

I do not trust P-Rob or Corey White, for the record.

[Droford]

That was before he had a awesome preseason.

His preseason was so awesome that no other team claimed him AND now the Rams have decided they don't want him on their practice squad either.

I hope he enjoys playing in Canada.

[SammyG]

I got tickets to STL-MIN. SO HYPE FOR SHAUN HILL

[Ruien]

What is up with that hating on him Droford? Why will he be in Canada? Why is that bad? Does not mean he will never play in the NFL either, in a regular season game. Sooooo confused on your post.

And he had a damn good preseason. You know it.

[Vastardikai]

C'mon Ruien. We know the reason.

[road doggy dogg]

I hope at the end of the season some website like Deadspin or something tallies up the number of articles on ESPN headlined by either Michael Sam or Johnny Manziel and compares them.

[road doggy dogg]

Anyway I spent this entire weekend doing D&D football drafts and am officially ready for football season. Let's go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

What is up with that hating on him Droford? Why will he be in Canada? Why is that bad? Does not mean he will never play in the NFL either, in a regular season game. Sooooo confused on your post.

And he had a damn good preseason. You know it.

He's a republican homophobe.

[Droford]

my only issue is that no one would care about him if he wasn't gay. Odds are good he wouldn't have even been drafted. Nobody cares about him for his ability to play the game because he isn't good. If he was, there'd be 31 other teams knocking down his door trying to sign him. There are hundreds of players that got cut over the weekend who are probably more deserving of a shot in the NFL than him.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

He's the first openly gay player of course it's a big deal. He was a defensive player of the year. He was going to be drafted straight or no.

[Ruien]

my only issue is that no one would care about him if he wasn't gay. Odds are good he wouldn't have even been drafted. Nobody cares about him for his ability to play the game because he isn't good. If he was, there'd be 31 other teams knocking down his door trying to sign him. There are hundreds of players that got cut over the weekend who are probably more deserving of a shot in the NFL than him.

Most professional analyst completely disagree with your post. The extra media attention, a huge distraction, is what keeps teams from wanting Sam. He would have went a lot earlier in the draft if not for coming out.

Or we can just imagine all the ESPN analyst, who get paid millions of dollars, jave no idea what they are talking about.

Honestly, how can you be so daft?

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NFL Logic. Don't need athleticism, skill or endurance.

Just look at Tom Brady irrelevant every season yet still considered a contender.
Andrew Luck overrated.
Adrian Peterson overrated off one mediocre season.
NFL is all hype and no show it's comical.

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Cant help but feel bad for Sam. Business is business I guess.

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Cant help but feel bad for Sam. Business is business I guess.

Feel bad? For what.