NFL Thread

[ClockShot]

Browns QB carousel keeps on spinning as Johnny Rehab is starting against the 49ers.

[ClockShot]

Broncos cut Christian Ponder loose after a little over a week after signing him.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>The Browns need a new owner. And anybody who has ever been employed by them since their re-expansion needs to be fired and forced to leave the state of Ohio.

That's about the only way I could ever see the Browns turning the corner and no longer being a joke year in and year out.</font>

[Emperor Smeat]

Preliminary ruling by the NY Supreme Court went in favor of the state over Draft Kings and FanDuel. Gambling ban for fantasy sports betting sites is staying in effect until the Court makes an official ruling.

A New York Supreme Court justice on Friday granted a preliminary injunction to Attorney General Eric Schneiderman to stop daily fantasy operators DraftKings and FanDuel from doing business in the state.

Justice Manuel Mendez agreed with Schneiderman's contention that the companies are operating illegal gambling sites based on how New York law defines gambling. Lawyers for DraftKings and FanDuel argued that their clients could not have violated gambling statutes because they were taking in entry fees and not wagers. The main support for their contention was a New Jersey case -- an unpublished decision in Humphrey v. Viacom (2007) -- which Mendez disregarded, saying that what they took in were in fact bets under New York law.

"New York State penal law does not refer to 'wagering' or 'betting,' rather it states that a person, 'risks something of value,'" Mendez wrote. "The payment of an 'entry fee' as high as $10,600 on one or more contests daily could certainly be deemed risking 'something of value.'"

[Innovator]

Giants release Damontre Moore

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Good riddance.</font>

[Emperor Smeat]

Andy Dalton rumored to be out for the rest of the season due to a hand injury. Could return for the playoffs if the test results and healing are both good.

Bengals quarterback Andy Dalton likely will miss the rest of the season because of a right thumb injury, team sources told ESPN's Bob Holtzman.

Dalton suffered a fractured thumb in Sunday's loss to the Pittsburgh Steelers, but the Bengals are uncertain how long he will be sidelined.

The best-case scenario, sources told Holtzman, is that Dalton will return for the playoffs.

[Ruien]

Really sucks for Cincy.

[RaginRonic]

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While not having an affinity for any NFL team, he's my favorite fan vlogger.

XB

[Emperor Smeat]

:| Another big injury for the Pats now that Blount is hurt.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

GRONK SPIKE!!!!!!!

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Big time shut down of a hot team. Pats take control back in the AFC.

[Tom Guycott]

<font color=goldenrod>The Browns need a new owner. And anybody who has ever been employed by them since their re-expansion needs to be fired and forced to leave the state of Ohio.

That's about the only way I could ever see the Browns turning the corner and no longer being a joke year in and year out.</font>

Half owner. The town owns the other half in a similar deal to the Packers, so they can't be Modell'd again.

But yes, the front office are dickheads. But that seems to be par for the course in Cleveland sports. Let's get a corporate cash cow going with no effort, and when it doesn't work, reshuffle the deck until it does work.

That my squad got handled today by such a hapless trainwreck (that I also follow ever since their creboot") proves how huge of a dumpster fire the 9ers are this season.

:sigh: At least there's the Fiesta Bowl.

[Emperor Smeat]

:y: Pats win.

[Ruien]

Go Pats! Colts just need to win the next 2 weeks to get their playoff berth! Hopefully get the Jets or Chiefs in the first round too.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Glad to "help" getting a most beatable team into the playoffs.

[Ruien]

STD, I am 100% certain Brady would prefer if you were a Jets fan.

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-cards="hidden" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">THIS JUST IN: LaGarrette Blount is out for the season w/ a hip injury. (via <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter">@AdamSchefter</a> &amp; 1st reported by <a href="https://twitter.com/WEEI">@WEEI</a>) <a href="https://t.co/0uRvfZZfmL">pic.twitter.com/0uRvfZZfmL</a></p>&mdash; SportsCenter (@SportsCenter) <a href="https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/676904381644677120">December 15, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Both their #1 & #2 is out for the season while NBC had some chart up during the Texans game that had Brady as their top carrier left before Pats started to use Brandon Bolden more.

[owenbrown]

can the NFC East and the AFC South stop trying to compete to be the worst division in the NFL?

[Nark Order]

The 9ers are still not good. I have watched every frame of every game this season. Feel like nothing is worth it anymore.

[Emperor Smeat]

NFL announced small rule tweaks for the playoffs mostly to help for stuff not normally covered by NFL's replay HQ.

The NFL's replay HQ won't be allowed to overturn calls not allowed by instant replay but refs can ask for help to make sure they got other stuff done correctly.

For the 2015 Postseason, consultation may occur between the Referee and the VP of Officiating or his designee located in the league’s officiating headquarters in New York regarding the correct application of playing rules. In addition to the VP of Officiating’s current role in Instant Replay, this consultation will only include the appropriate assessment of penalty yardage, the proper administration of the game clock, the correct down, or any other administrative matter not currently reviewable.

This will not include the ability to call or change a foul, or otherwise become involved in on-field judgment calls that are not subject to the current Instant Replay system.


Also NFL will be punishing teams more harshly if they try to get around the concussion protocol. The recent Case Keenum situation with the Rams being the reason why the penalties are going to be a lot more stricter from now on.
http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/12/16/10314440/nfl-penalize-teams-injury-concussion-protocol-case-keenum

[Emperor Smeat]

NFL putting next year's Thursday Night games up for bidding. Biggest changes is the possibility of no NFL Network exclusive games and streaming services being allowed to show all games. NFL is trying to push to see if they can co-host a playoff game but not expected to be approved by whoever wins the bids.

Also possible for one network to buy out all the games instead of splitting it with other networks.

The NFL has told TV networks that it is ready to accept bids for the “Thursday Night Football” package that, once again, will be for just two years, according to several sources. The league last week sent formal RFPs to the usual TV partners and outlets -- CBS, ESPN, Fox, NBC and Turner -- that outlined the NFL’s plan to sell a one-year deal with a league option for a second year. The league also sent RFPs to several digital companies, like Google, Yahoo, Apple and Amazon, to stream the entire Thursday night schedule on a non-exclusive basis, sources said. The league’s initial plan would have the digital streams serve as a simulcast of the television production -- with the same ads and in-game production features. The league expects bidding to start in the low $300M for the television package, with a nominal escalator in year two, sources said. CBS currently is paying around $300M per season for the Thursday night package.

http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Daily/Issues/2015/12/16/Media/NFL-Thursday.aspx

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

If they really wanted good bids wouldn't they want to put non shit games on? Bucs Vs. Rams as the first game since the announcement? Jesus Christ. It's like opening a fancy restaurant and then only serving hot dogs and hamburgers.

[road doggy dogg]

Well contrary to what this season would try to have you believe, you can't simply have New England and Denver in every prime time slot

[Heisenberg]

Rams v.s. Bucs was pretty sweet last night. Winston put over the Rams D.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>The color rush jerseys are an abomination. I thought it could have been cool when I first heard about it but I assumed it would just mean teams wear their home jerseys on the road. I never thought the jerseys and pants would be the same colors across the board. Terrible. Looked like ketchup and mustard yesterday.</font>

[#1-norm-fan]

I liked it. Looked all crazy and shit.

[owenbrown]

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[Innovator]

That 3 minute stretch sums up the Giants season

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I don't see how anybody could justify Reese, Coughlin, or Spags coming back next year. I've never seen a defense completely fold down in the final drive every single game.</font>

[Mercenary]

Pats get the bye!

[Ruien]

Come on Bengals, get the second bye. Give Andy another week to get healthy.

[Innovator]

<font color=goldenrod>I don't see how anybody could justify Reese, Coughlin, or Spags coming back next year. I've never seen a defense completely fold down in the final drive every single game.</font>

The 10+ years if ignoring linebackers in the draft might have something to do with it

[McLegend]

Arizona offense will not be stopped tonight.

[#1-norm-fan]

I hope Chip Kelly stays with the Eagles forever.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

"Is it the gloves?!" suspended one game by the NFL. Not a shock Beckham Jr got suspended.

[Emperor Smeat]

Odell Beckham Jr suspended 1 game by the NFL probably due more because of the blatant helmet-to-helmet hit he gave to Josh Norman. NFL hinted he should have been tossed from the game because of it.

According to reports, the Panthers pre-game antics towards him were what likely set him off during the game.
A Carolina Panthers practice squad player carried a black baseball bat onto the field in pregame warm-ups Sunday and was motioning with it toward Odell Beckham Jr. while making comments to the New York Giants receiver, a league source told ESPN's Adam Schefter.

Beckham, according to another source, felt threatened, and it helped put him in a certain state of mind for a game in which he was penalized three times for unnecessary roughness, including a helmet-to-helmet hit on Panthers cornerback Josh Norman.
Panthers players are claiming the bats are not meant to be taken seriously and just a pre-game gag they like to do. Also claimed nobody had a problem with them having bats around until yesterday's game.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Fine with OBJ getting suspended. He deserves it.

Will be pissed off if he appeals and it ends up carrying into next year. Aka the next time the Giants will play a meaningful game.</font>

[Innovator]

I hope the suspension sticks and Hakeem the Dream gets 3 TDs

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

He has already appealed.

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Yes, those are T-Rexes all over Devin Taylor’s suit (via <a href="https://twitter.com/MearsDaniel">@MearsDaniel</a>): <a href="https://t.co/BsRbHTRQYM">https://t.co/BsRbHTRQYM</a> <a href="https://t.co/vhQbk4o1wp">pic.twitter.com/vhQbk4o1wp</a></p>&mdash; SB Nation (@SBNation) <a href="https://twitter.com/SBNation/status/679094660950794242">December 22, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Didn't know that "Ugly Christmas Sweaters" also came in suit varieties. Sort of want that one though.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Charles Woodson has announced that he will retire at the end of the year.

He should have a spot in Canton waiting for him in 2021. Tough to see him not being a first ballot HOFer.</font>

[ClockShot]

18 seasons in the game. One of the last few of the 90's old guard still hanging around if I'm not mistaken.

Bet in a few seasons the game will be loaded up with millennial picks. Which is quite scary.

[road doggy dogg]

Is Woodson still the only defensive player to win the Heisman?

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Yep, and even at that he was a two-way player.

It's been exclusively QB and RB since. There's a natural bias towards those positions at the college level.</font>

[Emperor Smeat]

Panther dropping the pre-game bats routine and denied rumors of homophobic slurs were said towards Beckham Jr prior to the Giants-Panthers game.

Carolina Panthers coach Ron Rivera said he will no longer allow his team to bring baseball bats onto the field before games and denied reports that his players directed homophobic slurs at New York Giants star Odell Beckham Jr. before Sunday's contest.

Rivera announced his new policy regarding the baseball bats Tuesday, one day after photos and videos surfaced of star cornerback Josh Norman and practice squad player Marcus Ball carrying a black bat on the field during warm-ups ...

A Giants source had told ESPN's Ian O'Connor Monday that Giants players on the field heard Panthers defensive players directing anti-gay slurs and expletives at Beckham before the game ...

A source told ESPN's Adam Schefter that Beckham felt threatened when Ball carried a black baseball bat onto the field during warm-ups Sunday and was motioning with it toward the receiver while making comments, and it helped put him in a certain state of mind for a game in which he was penalized three times for unnecessary roughness, including a helmet-to-helmet hit on Norman.

[poopfromweiner dude]

whats "anti gay slurs"

they were calling him a faggot?

I have a hard time believing he doesn't get called a fag nonstop (via his fucken gay as shit hair)

smdh@ "alleged on-field trash talk" is something that gets "tweeted" by news people

[road doggy dogg]

I'm just parroting Simmons here but it's hilarious how Cam Newton is 8th in QBR and Tom Brady is 13th.

Your garbage stat is garbage, ESPN.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/qbr/_/stats/expanded

[Droford]

So Ric Flair used to show up for Panthers games but they got Sting to shos up with his bat...

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Pro Bowl rosters announced

OFFENSE

Quarterbacks

Tom Brady, Patriots
Cam Newton, Panthers
Carson Palmer, Cardinals
Aaron Rodgers, Packers
Ben Roethlisberger, Steelers
Russell Wilson, Seahawks

Wide Receivers

Odell Beckham Jr., Giants
Antonio Brown, Steelers
Larry Fitzgerald, Cardinals
A.J. Green, Bengals
DeAndre Hopkins, Texans
Calvin Johnson, Lions
Julio Jones, Falcons
Brandon Marshall, Jets

Tackles

Jason Peters, Eagles
Tyron Smith, Cowboys
Joe Staley, 49ers
Joe Thomas, Browns
Andrew Whitworth, Bengals
Trent Williams, Redskins

Guards

David DeCastro, Steelers
Mike Iupati, Cardinals
Zack Martin, Cowboys
Josh Sitton, Packers
Trai Turner, Panthers
Marshal Yanda, Ravens

Centers

Travis Frederick, Cowboys
Ryan Kalil, Panthers
Alex Mack, Browns
Mike Pouncey, Dolphins

Tight Ends

Tyler Eifert, Bengals
Rob Gronkowski, Patriots
Travis Kelce, Chiefs
Greg Olsen, Panthers

Running backs

Devonta Freeman, Falcons
Todd Gurley, Rams
Doug Martin, Buccaneers
LeSean McCoy, Bills
Adrian Peterson, Vikings
Jonathan Stewart, Panthers

Fullbacks

Marcel Reece, Raiders
Mike Tolbert, Panthers

DEFENSE

Defensive ends

Ezekiel Ansah, Lions
Michael Bennett, Seahawks
Chandler Jones, Patriots
Khalil Mack, Raiders
J.J. Watt, Texans
Muhammad Wilkerson, Jets

Defensive tackles

Geno Atkins, Bengals
Calais Campbell, Cardinals
Fletcher Cox, Eagles
Aaron Donald, Rams
Gerald McCoy, Buccaneers
Kawann Short, Panthers

Outside linebackers

Jamie Collins, Patriots
Thomas Davis, Panthers
Tamba Hali, Chiefs
Justin Houston, Chiefs
Von Miller, Broncos
DeMarcus Ware, Broncos

Inside / middle linebackers

NaVorro Bowman, 49ers
Luke Kuechly, Panthers
Clay Matthews, Packers
Bobby Wagner, Seahawks

Cornerbacks

Malcolm Butler, Patriots
Chris Harris, Broncos
Josh Norman, Panthers
Marcus Peters, Chiefs
Patrick Peterson, Cardinals
Darrelle Revis, Jets
Richard Sherman, Seahawks
Aqib Talib, Broncos

Free safeties

Tyrann Mathieu, Cardinals
Reggie Nelson, Bengals
Earl Thomas, Seahawks

Strong safeties

Eric Berry, Chiefs
Kam Chancellor, Seahawks
Charles Woodson, Raiders

SPECIAL TEAMS

Punters

Johnny Hekker, Rams
Sam Koch, Ravens

Kickers

Dan Bailey, Cowboys
Stephen Gostkowski, Patriots

Return specialists

Tyler Lockett, Seahawks
Darren Sproles, Eagles

Special teamers

Justin Bethel, Cardinals
Matthew Slater, Patriots

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As always there are bound to be plenty of replacements due to playing in the Super Bowl/injury/making up other excuses to pull out.

Not sure why they even do voting for OL/FB/P/ST since there really aren't many quantifiable stats to go off of...at least not ones that anybody will bother to look up. Ends up being pretty much the same people every year in those spots.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Peyton Manning, Clay Matthews, Julius Peppers among others linked to HGH usage.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>*Nationwide tune* I've been using HGH</font>

[Mercenary]

<font color=goldenrod>Peyton Manning, Clay Matthews, Julius Peppers among others linked to HGH usage.</font>

But yet we will still focus on what the Pats are doing

[Emperor Smeat]

<font color=goldenrod>Peyton Manning, Clay Matthews, Julius Peppers among others linked to HGH usage.</font>

Could explain Peyton's 2013 season and how it seemed like he barely showed any issues post neck surgery at least until mid-2014.

Think the stuff involving the wife is the same way Roger Clemens got busted.

[Ruien]

Seems unreal Cousins will be in the playoffs.

[Sepholio]

Or we could just ignore the fact that the person who supposedly recorded these conversations is a known 'investment fraud', the guy who is recorded on the tapes says they are bogus, out of context and cobbled together, and Al-Jazeera is now considering airing the documentary without the recordings because they can't vet them.

[Sepholio]

Also come the fuck on with this "I sent it to his wife so it wouldn't be attached to him". That's the second worst person to send it to other than directly to Peyton if you're trying to avoid getting caught.

[Droford]

Seems unreal Cousins will be in the playoffs.

Redskins fans coming out of the woodwork too

Really weird coincidence

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

They never doubted it...lol.

[Ruien]

Redskins fans coming out of the woodwork too

Really weird coincidence

I don't think we have anyone here that had claimed to be a Redskins fan.

[Droford]

I was a Redskins fan til the Ravens move to Baltimore. As bad as theyve been for 20 years im so glad they did lol

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Betrayal!

[ClockShot]

Al Jazeera is behind this NFL HGH story.

Does this media outfit have any credibility whatsoever besides being the official network for terrorists video messages?

If it was ESPN, a major newspaper, or one of the major networks breaking this story I'd be concerned.

[Sepholio]

Al Jazeera is fairly well respected nowadays but this is definitely new territory for them.

[Mercenary]

I don't think we have anyone here that had claimed to be a Redskins fan.

They are my backup team.

[Sepholio]

Al Jazeera is fairly well respected nowadays but this is definitely new territory for them.

Now that it's come out that the man they claim was giving out drugs at the clinic wasn't even employed there until 2 years AFTER they claim he was giving out the drugs and they couldn't even vet something as simple as his employment history I imagine some of that respect might be going down the drain.

[McLegend]

I think Chip Kelly is coming back next year, and I don't want him to.

I wouldn't mind Sam Bradford coming back. He's the least of their worries.

[Sepholio]

They need to cut Bradford and Kelly loose. Kelly had his chance and he proved that his style belongs at the collegiate level right now.

Bradford is too injury prone and he's just average when he isn't hurt.

They should send Murray packing too while they are at it.

[Ruien]

They need to cut Bradford and Kelly loose. Kelly had his chance and he proved that his style belongs at the collegiate level right now.

Bradford is too injury prone and he's just average when he isn't hurt.

They should send Murray packing too while they are at it.

All Kelly proved is he should not have gm powers. He did awesome the past 2 years when he was not making personnel decisions.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Can't go back to just dating when you've already been engaged.

[Ruien]

You are right. Demotion never happen. Once you are the starting quarterback you stay they forever.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

QB isn't Coach/VP/GM. You idiot.

[Ruien]

Being engaged to someone isn't being a gm/vp/coach you smart fellow.

[Ruien]

Also, remember when Garrett had the power to call the offensive plays in Dallas 3 years ago? Remember how he lost those powers?

[Ruien]

In 2014, the Cowboys named Scott Linehan the passing game coordinator and will take over the play-calling duties from Callahan, who handled the job in 2013. Callahan will continue to hold the offensive coordinator/offensive line title.

Ya, I copied and pasted because I am on my phone. Do you want me to keep going?

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Also, remember when Garrett had the power to call the offensive plays in Dallas 3 years ago? Remember how he lost those powers?

Those are NOT the same thing as GM. Are you intentionally being stupid? You said personnel decisions. You can't list examples that don't fit that to fit your point you halfwit.

[Droford]

Good to see the Ravens knock the Steelers out of their playoff spot

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

In 2014, the Cowboys named Scott Linehan the passing game coordinator and will take over the play-calling duties from Callahan, who handled the job in 2013. Callahan will continue to hold the offensive coordinator/offensive line title.

Ya, I copied and pasted because I am on my phone. Do you want me to keep going?

Yes, if you can show me somebody who became the Coach/GM and then went back to being jut the Coach. Ya know? The power to hire and fire?

[Corndad]

Lol Droford comes out of the Darkness the one good thing his team does all year.

Steelers don't deserve playoffs after that. How do you beat Bengals and Broncos and lose this game. Inexcusable.

[#1-norm-fan]

Pretty sure Mike Holmgren was coach and GM of the Seahawks originally and then was fired as GM a couple seasons later but stayed on as head coach.

Either way though, STD isn't a very smart man.

[McLegend]

Either way Chip Kelly shouldn't be in the NFL.

[screech]

I don't care (okay I do) that I can count the number of Ravens wins on one hand, because two of them came against the Steelers.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Pretty sure Mike Holmgren was coach and GM of the Seahawks originally and then was fired as GM a couple seasons later but stayed on as head coach.

Either way though, STD isn't a very smart man.

Then neither is Ruien.

[Ruien]

STD is a scholar.

[Ruien]

You were just proven wrong at every angle you went on, after having to cover your tracks multiple times, but I am the idiot. 100% truth.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

You didn't come up with Holgrem. You were wrong comparing coordinators to GMs.

It happened once. It won't happen this time. Holmgrem was coming off a Super Bowl win to get those powers. He probably got paid more of a base salary (as a Coach) to stay on.

[Ruien]

Well, you said coaches, VPs, and GMS after players were not subjected to the convo. I gave you a coordinator and head coach example. Then it was on GMs, and VPS which Fan responded to before me.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

You said Chip Kelly was better when he was not making what Bill Parcells would call "buying the groceries."

Those two examples you gave were not equal to that.

Play calling and coordinators =/= to VP of Player Operations.

[Ruien]

To save me from getting annoyed/angry with your stupidity I am going to stop posting. Thank you for your time STD.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE! YOU CAN'T BE WRONG AND THEN CALL ME STUPID!

[#1-norm-fan]

LOL

[poopfromweiner dude]

LOL BRADY WENT BACK TO PASS AND IT WAS LIKE

INTERCEPTION

INTERCEPTIONS EVERYWHERE

[Emperor Smeat]

According to reports, both the NFL and MLB have started investigations regarding the recent roids report and the alleged players so far revealed.

In regards to the NFL, what caught them by surprise the most was the supposed type of roids Peyton was using and/or being ordered for his wife. Either they were unaware about it before or about players possibly using it since it probably doesn't get detected in the current roids testing.

Clay Matthews seems to be exonerated at the moment since the stuff listed he supposedly was taking is legal by NFL rules.

[Emperor Smeat]

Mike Holmgren rumored to be interested in the 49ers head coaching job if its made avaliable this offseason. Had the chance to coach the Raiders this season before the team went with Jack Del Rio instead.
Robert Klemko of MMQB.com reports that former Packers and Seahawks HC Mike Holmgren has expressed interest in the 49ers head-coaching job.

Dave Softy Mahler points out that Holmgren has been “very open” about his interest in returning to the 49ers, and mentioned that he would talk with them regarding an opportunity if they were interested.

[ClockShot]

If Holmgren stuck around he probably could have had the Browns job and fixed that mess up real good.

But San Fran is his stomping grounds. Gonna be hard to turn down if the Niners offer the job to him.


But, I can see him not taking it. If guys like Bill Cowher, Jon Gruden, and Tony Dungy don't wanna go back, I can easily see Mike Holmgren not coming back to the game.

[Ruien]

Bengals winning g the AFC and losing in the Superbowl. Going to be amazing.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

At least his hot wife will be popular again if that happens. All roads lead to New England after they trounce the Dolphins though.

[ClockShot]

Jags decide to not wait until Black Monday and will keep head coach Gus Bradley around for the 2016-17 season.

[Mercenary]

And Chip Kelly is gone from Philly

[McLegend]

Holy shit

I didn't see it coming.

[McLegend]

I mean he shouldn have been fired, but I didn't think it would happen.

[Emperor Smeat]

Did he also get fired as the GM or just as a coach?

ESPN only mentions he got booted as their coach on their website.

[ClockShot]

Woooooooooooooooooow. I think most of us knew it might have been coming. But I was expecting this at the end of the season.

He made all these moves, and shoved his Oregon offense down the Eagles throat. And it simply just......didn't.........work.

So, what to do now with these cogs in the machine? Sam Bradford, DeMarco Murray, Kiko Alonzo, Ryan Matthews, Darren Sproles, etc. Someone else is gonna come in with their own system and some of these guys might not be a part of it.

[McLegend]

Did he also get fired as the GM or just as a coach?

ESPN only mentions he got booted as their coach on their website.

He's out entirely.

[McLegend]

I wouldn't go after Chip Kelly if I was The Titans.

I know Chip the GM doesn't work, and I don't think Chip the coach works well either.

[RaginRonic]

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Classic. =)

[ClockShot]

Andy Reid is probably laughing right about now.

[McLegend]

I still wouldn't want Andy Reid back.

Glad he's doing well though.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

That stupid shit about looking at the sideline after every play? Da fuck was that about? Coach your players to be able to read the defense and plan accordingly. Won't learn from just taking orders. The full relationship is over I was right Ruien. I doubt they offered him his diminished coach job back. Gonna be sitting pretty in Miami once they release PC Principle

[Droford]

Bengals winning g the AFC NORTH and losing in the wild card round as usual. Going to be amazing.

Fixed

[screech]

Hey Steve Smith is gonna play another year in Baltimore. Someone who can catch!

[Ruien]

Fixed

At least you know who is king of the division, seeing as you put as usual in there.

[Droford]

King of the Division, joke of the playoffs

[Ruien]

Just takes that 1 win to get over that hump. Even without Dalton beating the Jets or Chiefs is doable. If Dalton comes back the week after that no reason they will lose to Denver.

[Frank Drebin]

Crazy:

The last time Peyton Manning dressed but did not start was when he was a freshman at Tennessee. The starter for that game? Future Colorado Rockies 1st baseman Todd Helton.

[ClockShot]

Colts are gonna let Chuck Pagano walk away at the end of the season.

[Emperor Smeat]

Dolphins fired GM Dennis Hickey after just 2 years with the team. Also expected to fire interim coach Dan Campbell soon.

[ClockShot]

Eagles begin their coaching search by interviewing former NFL runningback Duce Staley. He's currently the Eagles RB coach.

Damn, he retired back in 2007. Could have sworn he was around longer.

[McLegend]

Watch The Eagles score 48 points today.

[Simple Fan]

Josh Freeman starting for the Colts today, damn.

[McLegend]

And Demarco Murray runs for 51 yard TD down the middle of the field. Can't make that stuff up.

[McLegend]

OMG I hate every Eagles receiver.

[ClockShot]

Jimmy Haslam is gonna fire Browns coach Mike Pettine after the game today.

Shit, if I knew that was gonna happen, I'd put down the headset, go clean out my office, and go home.

[Innovator]

OMG I hate every Eagles receiver.

But you love the Giants inability to cover a seam route

[Innovator]

And their tackling

[McLegend]

And their play calling in the red zone

[Simple Fan]

Tyrrell Pryor just made a great catch for the Browns.

[poopfromweiner dude]

Tyrrell Pryor just made a great catch for the Browns.

lol

Both Josh Freeman and Ryan Lindley have thrown touchdown passes as quarterback of the Colts today

[Innovator]

And their play calling in the red zone

It's baffling

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>not that I like losing to the Eagles but I'd still rather see the Giants play in London against the Rams next year than have to go into Seattle</font>

[Simple Fan]

lol

Both Josh Freeman and Ryan Lindley have thrown touchdown passes as quarterback of the Colts today

Freeman get hurt?

[Corndad]

Buffalo!!!!!!!

[ClockShot]

Don't let me down 'fins.

[Emperor Smeat]

:-\ Pats lose. Offense stunk today regardless of the injuries problems.

[McLegend]

I do want Sam Bradford to come back. I like him and think he is good.

[Emperor Smeat]

Browns GM joins the list of pre-Black Monday firings. Got fired prior to their game today.

[Simple Fan]

Browns fire head coach to.

[Droford]

Waiting for the Onion article "City of Cleveland fires the Browns"

[ClockShot]

Seriously hope that nobody takes those Browns job openings during the offseason and they just shut down operations or something.

[Droford]

Relocate the Browns to LA

[Emperor Smeat]

According to reports, Browns expected to dump Johnny Manziel soon.

Follows reports of him showing up drunk to a practice session last week and failing to follow their concussion protocol by partying in Vegas last night. Didn't even bother to be at the Browns final game of the season.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25436697/report-browns-are-done-with-johnny-manziel-who-wants-to-go-to-dallas

[Simple Fan]

Nooooooooooooo. Cleveland can keep him I don't want to see him as a Cowboy next year.

[#1-norm-fan]

Maybe it's all an elaborate plan for Johnny to be a complete fuckup on and off the field so that he gets released and can go to Dallas and become the GOAT.

YOU NEVER KNOW.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Shit, Jets out and Pittsburgh in. Gonna be a tough team to beat.

[Emperor Smeat]

49ers fired head coach Jim Tomsula after just one season on the job.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Not that Tomsula was good or anything but jesus christ...look at all the dudes that retired in the offseason. Look at that roster. What was he expected to do?</font>

[Emperor Smeat]

Supposedly just be a motivator while everyone else handled the actual coaching stuff which sounds really odd to do for a head coach hiring.

This was the 49ers master plan going into the season:
Many times this season, though, Tomsula looked overmatched as an in-game strategist. Alas, that was not supposed to be his strength. Rather, as former Niners coach Mike Nolan, who initially hired Tomsula in Santa Clara, told ESPN, that general manager Trent Baalke would put together a strong roster, Tomsula's coordinators would do the "football" things and Tomsula would be the motivator.

In fact, Drew Henson, who played for Tomsula in Europe, said that Tomsula compared favorably to Lloyd Carr, Joe Torre and Bill Parcells as a motivator.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Sunday Bloody Sunday.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

When does Pagano get the boot?

[screech]

<font color=goldenrod>Not that Tomsula was good or anything but jesus christ...look at all the dudes that retired in the offseason. Look at that roster. What was he expected to do?</font>

Read a RUMOR that Chip Kelly wants the SF job.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I also read that the Niners could try to trade with the Saints for Payton.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Adam Gase is about to be a busy man. Already has interviews booked with the Eagles, Dolphins, and Browns.</font>

[Splaya]

Apparently there is a rumor floating around that the Lions are about to have an interviw with Chip Kelly

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Heard rumors on the news that Nick Sabin might want to give it another go.

[ClockShot]

Not much to predict on Black Monday since a lot of firings happened yesterday.

[Simple Fan]

According to reports, Browns expected to dump Johnny Manziel soon.

Follows reports of him showing up drunk to a practice session last week and failing to follow their concussion protocol by partying in Vegas last night. Didn't even bother to be at the Browns final game of the season.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25436697/report-browns-are-done-with-johnny-manziel-who-wants-to-go-to-dallas

Nooooooooooooo. Cleveland can keep him I don't want to see him as a Cowboy next year.

Maybe it's all an elaborate plan for Johnny to be a complete fuckup on and off the field so that he gets released and can go to Dallas and become the GOAT.

YOU NEVER KNOW.

Would rather the Cowboys trade for RG3 than I would Manziel.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>No idea what the Giants will do in the draft. They need help basically everywhere.

They may even have to go Offensive Tackle for the 3rd time in 4 years. Feels like its harsh to slap the bust tag on Ereck Flowers already. He was put in a tough spot, was supposed to play right tackle and instead he got moved to left tackle with zero professional experience.

But he still graded out as the worst tackle in football by a wide margin according to Pro Football Focus. And recent league history suggests that tackles rarely improve. You either are good right out of college or you suck and get moved to guard soon thereafter.</font>

[Simple Fan]

Glad the Cowboys are not in the middle of the draft this year but hate what it took to get a top 5 pick. Don't know who they take at 4. Don't see a QB good enough to take that early. Really should draft a RB but I'm not sure the 4th pick would be a great spot to reach on a RB. Always find a group of players if like to see Dallas pick and they never pick any but I'd like to see them get one of the top backs either Elliot, Henry, or the Arkansas RB. Pharroh Cooper the WR out our South Carolina is another guy I'd like to see them take but probably won't. Defensively it's a homer pick for me but Josh Harvy Clemons out of Louisville is a DBiI'd like to see them grab as well.

[CSL]

Tom Coughlin is resigning/retiring. London isn't that bad, even if the game isn't @ Wembley :(

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I will miss watching Coughlin lose his shit on the sideline. But it's time.</font>

[Emperor Smeat]

According to ESPN, seems like the 49ers are interested the most in Sean Payton if he leaves but right now are looking at Chip Kelly who wants to coach there.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Frank Reich, possibly the greatest backup QB in NFL history, takes the fall in San Diego. Fired as offensive coordinator.

They were 4th in the league in passing this year. Run game sucked but they had a million injuries on the O-line. Feels like they just needed a scapegoat.</font>

[road doggy dogg]

According to ESPN, seems like the 49ers are interested the most in Sean Payton if he leaves but right now are looking at Chip Kelly who wants to coach there.

I would 1000% like Payton over Kelly, but I don't think they lose anything by at least listening to what he has to say... good to have options

[road doggy dogg]

(assuming I was a 9ers fan :roll: :roll: :roll: )

[ClockShot]

Frank Reich, possibly the greatest backup QB in NFL history, takes the fall in San Diego. Fired as offensive coordinator.

They were 4th in the league in passing this year. Run game sucked but they had a million injuries on the O-line. Feels like they just needed a scapegoat.

I think every other play a Charger went down to injury on Sunday vs. Denver. Practically had zero bench when the game was over.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Chuck Pagano is coming back next season. Not really his fault Luck got hurt. It's his fault Luck has been exposed when he has played though. Everybody has Lucks number and Pagano will probably not survive 2016.

[Emperor Smeat]

We all know Vegas stories can get extremely crazy involving celebrities. This is going to sound wild, and maybe hard to believe, but this is what we’re hearing regarding Johnny Manziel.

Our sources tell us Manziel was at a popular night club on the strip Saturday night. The QB entered wearing a blonde wig, a fake mustache, glasses, and a hoodie.

Manziel introduced himself as “Billy.” He was there into the 3am hour and when it came time to pay the bill, he asked to have it comped because he didn’t bring cash and also didn’t want to put it on his card.

However, the sources tell us he ended up paying with his card and signing the check.

By 3am he appeared to be enjoying the party scene that Vegas is known to offer.

The club had Manziel and his crew placed at a VIP table close to the DJ booth. The table is located in one of the darkest areas of the club.

Manziel dined at the club’s restaurant before going to the nightclub. He was seated at the most private area in the restaurant, which is still out in the open. And yes, he ate with his wig and glasses on.
https://www.facebook.com/ESPNLasVegas/posts/330734480383733

:lol: he pulled a Bobby Valentine.

[Emperor Smeat]

Chargers, Raiders, and Rams all filed the official paperwork for relocation. Owners vote on who gets to move or not won't happen till between January 12th and 13th.

According to CBS Sports, none of the proposals have enough votes to win on their own although the Chargers/Raiders option seems to be the favorite. Also being teased that if Chargers split from the Raiders, they are likely the team to move since owners prefer them out of the three to move first. Rams owner seems to have lost support recently with the owners and might try to get Chargers/Raiders move blocked if he doesn't get his way.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>In the event the Chargers and Raiders both move, one of them will have to go to the NFC West with a team moving to the AFC West.

Seahawks are assumed to be the team that would go to the AFC West since they're a former AFC team and their rivalry with the Niners has already fizzled. But it'd be kinda weird to take a team that's been a perennial Super Bowl contender and move them to the other conference. Cardinals are really good too so moving them seems unfair. And the Niners have too much NFC lineage.

Would be awkward as all hell for the Rams though if they lose their relocation bid AND have to change divisions.</font>

[road doggy dogg]

That Manziel story sounds too fantastic. I hope they don't run him out of the league, we need a ridiculous character like him to stick around.

[Emperor Smeat]

Seems like the Eagles are down to between Sean Payton and Adam Gase as their next coach. They are interested in trading for Payton if the price is right but at the same time are pretty far along in negotiations with Gase. The longer it takes for the Saints to make a decision, the more likely its Gase to the Eagles.

Giants, Dolphins, and 49ers are also interested in Payton while the Colts were before dropping out very quickly because Saints want at least a 1st Round pick for a trade.

[Sepholio]

Moving Seattle to the AFC west would be dumb as shit. Chiefs, Seahawks and Broncos all in one division. Good grief.

[ClockShot]

The Adam Gase offense didn't do much in Chicago. Think you're gonna need a QB of the Manning or Brady caliber if that's what he's gonna implement if you hire him.

Unless they bring in an O.C. and they do their own thing, then whatever.

[ClockShot]

As far as the teams relocating go, Rams is the logical choice. They're isolated from all the other teams in their conference and they were in L.A. originally.

Oakland would be my second choice. No real reason for San Diego to move.

[road doggy dogg]

Rams do seem the most logical. Raiders are one of the few NFL franchises that have an identity of sorts, would be poop to see them move back to LA

[ClockShot]

O.co Stadium is falling apart. A's were looking for a way out, but ended up signing a 10-year lease to stay last season.

[Droford]

Hope RDD takes the Calvin Johnson news easy

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sean Payton says New Orleans is where he plans on coaching. Not going anywhere.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/684827762406895617">January 6, 2016</a></blockquote>
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[Innovator]

Guess Giants will bump up McAdoo then

[ClockShot]

I just don't see Calvin Johnson walking away.

Unless he's fed up with Detroit? Any news about him being disgruntled or looking for a change of scenery?

[road doggy dogg]

Not even a little bit

[BCWWF]

It will be very cold in Minneapolis on Sunday, and more than likely Teddy Two Gloves will throw for four interceptions in a Vikings rout.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Lovie Smith fired...wow.</font>

[ClockShot]

Tampa Bay never gave him a chance.

[Emperor Smeat]

Broncos announced Peyton will be their starter for the playoffs.

Steelers DeAngelo Williams currently a toss up for the Bengals game since he missed another practice this week because of an injury.

[Emperor Smeat]

Lions hired Pats scouting director Bob Quinn as their new GM.

[Emperor Smeat]

Dolphins hired Adam Gase to be their new coach.

Eagles currently looking at Tom Coughlin as a possible choice for their coaching job.

[Locke]

Yo Chuck, it's your cousin Aaron

You know, Aaron Berry

[Locke]

Just found out this Hoyer guy had two concussions this year. Rooting for KC so the poor guy doesn't have to play anymore. Jesus

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Alex Smith, man. So glad he's still a QB and Colin Throwsapick's career is in Jeopardy!tm

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

"Ballgame"-JBL

[Locke]

Martavis Bryant just made the first ever piledriver touchdown catch

[Frank Drebin]

The Adam Gase offense didn't do much in Chicago. Think you're gonna need a QB of the Manning or Brady caliber if that's what he's gonna implement if you hire him.

Unless they bring in an O.C. and they do their own thing, then whatever.

Just saw this.....Cutler had one of his best seasons in Chicago despite that he:
-had practice squad receivers all year
-lost his left tackle
-staff moved the right guard to right tackle a week before the season started
-had no real center all season either.
-Forte missed multiple games.

[Corndad]

Burfict doesn't deserve to wear a uniform. What a Thug.

[Locke]

wait, the steelers won? wtf? I stopped watching after Cinncinnati intercepted with like a minute left

How is that possible

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

The Bengals happened.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Two fifteen yard penalties one on a dead ball.

[Locke]

Glad everyone here is watching the games today

[Locke]

Too bad your ass got sacked

[Emperor Smeat]

Feels like there is going to be a brawl during this Redskins-Packers game with the way both teams are acting after a bunch of plays.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Hut hut hut!

[Locke]

Feels like there is going to be a brawl during this Redskins-Packers game with the way both teams are acting after a bunch of plays.
Which players do you think will fight

I think it will be DeSean Jackson vs. Julius Peppers

[Locke]

Holy shit Adam Jones posted an amazing video after the game last night

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/Zs4M2iwF7PE?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[Locke]

A lot of people are calling that DeSean Jackson play "bonehead," it doesn't seem that bad to me. Especially with his record of giving away easy TDs at the goal line

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Jared Porter.

[Locke]

I have missed/slept through the most crucial parts of every playoff game so far I think. Missed the beginning of this one but hope to stick the whole thing out

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Only 2 weeks until XFiles?! Shit!

[DaveWadding]

So far this has been the best game of the weekend.

[RaginRonic]

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/9V0IQQwUhkI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

This one won't let the Vikings off. =B

[ClockShot]

The Ryan Bros. are reunited in Buffalo.

Rex brings in Rob to be an assistant head coach for defense.

[road doggy dogg]

I mean this is an obvious special case but it's hilarious how bad Rob Ryan's defenses have been and he keeps getting jobs

[Droford]

Im annoyed people had to bring up Billy Cundiff to say Walsh's miss was shorter than Billy Cundiffs miss vs the Patriots..ugh

[Emperor Smeat]

I mean this is an obvious special case but it's hilarious how bad Rob Ryan's defenses have been and he keeps getting jobs

Must be a really bad shortage of good defensive coordinators for him to keep getting a job.

[ClockShot]

Hammer comes down on Vontaze Burfict.

Suspended for the first 3 games on the 2016 season.

[Corndad]

Hammer comes down on Vontaze Burfict.

Suspended for the first 3 games on the 2016 season.

I would bet my house Week 4 Sunday Night Football is Steelers vs Bengals.

[Emperor Smeat]

According to ESPN, the LA relocation voting is rumored to include a third option which is Rams and Raiders being paired together. Rams proposed the option but still waiting on the Raiders if they want to bail out on the Chargers or not to be made official.

Owners currently meeting to vote on if LA will get a team and who it will be.

[Simple Fan]

Hope its the Rams and Chargers moving to LA but really wouldnt care if all 3 went. Hate that Oakland cant get a new stadium built for the Raiders and them playing on a baseball diamond is ridiculous.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Rams to LA is official. Chargers have the option of joining them. Raiders will explore opportunities in San Antonio and could possibly even go to San Diego themselves if the Chargers bolt.</font>

[CSL]

NFL Network (and about a million guys on Twitter) reporting the Raiders backed out and it's the Rams with "an option" for the Chargers to join them

[CSL]

http://www.tpwwforums.com/images/icons/icon8.gif

[CSL]

La Canfora saying the NFL have promised the Raiders a certain amount of money towards a new stadium to stay in Oakland once the relocation/vote is finalized

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Spanos promises to give San Diego a "fair chance" to agree to a stadium deal before they officially decide to go to LA, but he's often times been full of shit. After all of these years I can see why Archie didn't want Eli to go there.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Also I'll feel really gutted for San Diego if/when the Chargers move becomes official. St. Louis is clearly a baseball city and the Cardinals are good every year. San Diego will be left with nothing but the lousy Padres.</font>

[ClockShot]

I don't know if the Davis family is really stupid or really smart. Either get out of the dump, or go build your own. It's that simple.

Just how much money is the NFL gonna give Oakland if they decide to stay? Football stadiums ain't cheap these days with costs crossing into the billions with Metlife Stadium and AT&T Stadium.

[Simple Fan]

Makes the most since. Rams in LA just sounds right. I would hate to see the Raiders in San Antonio but if thats what it takes to get them a new stadium then so be it. Color scheme would at least match the Spurs though.

[ClockShot]

Good for the Rams for getting a hell of a lot closer to their division rivals. Bad for St. Louis losing a team. Blues & Cardinals ain't going away anytime soon.

[Simple Fan]

Rams really made St. Louis look bad. I dont even know if an expansion franchise would even consider them for a team if the league were to expand.

[ClockShot]

You're forgetting The Greatest Show on Turf. Those were good years.

[Simple Fan]

Yeah but the Rams really shit on the city pf St. Louis in the relocation proposal. Said St. Louis cant support 3 major sports and wouldnt advises any teams to relocte there in the future.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>The Chargers are in a tough spot now. They aren't going to love the terms of a potential move to LA, Rams would stand to get the concessions money and a cut of ticket sales since the stadium would be owned by Kroenke.

At the same time, they totally threw their fans under the bus and it's tough to see the taxpayers voting for a new stadium.</font>

[road doggy dogg]

<font color=goldenrod>Rams to LA is official. Chargers have the option of joining them. Raiders will explore opportunities in San Antonio and could possibly even go to San Diego themselves if the Chargers bolt.</font>

wait what

why is that even an option (Raiders going to San Diego)

seems absurd, if the city can't even manage to keep the Chargers why the hell would a) the Raiders want to b) be able to move there

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>San Diego don't want to lose their team and the NFL really doesn't want to lose that market. The problem is Spanos is a bit of an asshole and the city is pissed off at the Chargers from throwing them under the bus. Enough so that if the Chargers leave they might be enticed to actually give money to the Raiders to keep a team in the area.

Most likely though San Diego would just be used as a bargaining chip by the Raiders to try to get Oakland to fork over money.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Also worth noting that the Chargers and Raiders both will be given money by the NFL to try and work out stadium deals with their current cities. The Chargers were given more than the Raiders, which suggests that the league doesn't actually want the Chargers to relocate if they can avoid it.

Fail to see how 2 LA teams isn't going to bomb spectacularly.</font>

[CSL]

Oakland also have the option of moving to LA in January 2017 if the Chargers decide to stay put. Chargers have until March to decide if they want to move for the 2016 season.

[road doggy dogg]

kind of hope that all 3 teams just get fucked and fuck off

"trying to work out a deal with the city" so the billionaire owners can have the city pay for their toys

dickholes

[Simple Fan]

Apparently Stan Kronke will be financing this new LA stadium. Dude just wanted the hell out of St. Louis it sounds.

[Evil Vito]

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/snXkmyRzJ6s" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

<font color=goldenrod>I really can't imagine how depressing it would be to have your team move away. It's sometimes hard for me to empathize since none of my teams are a threat to move (I don't count the Islanders going to Brooklyn, if anything that just assures they'll still be relatively "local" to me for the long haul) but shit...I can't imagine pumping hours into watching a team and going to a ton of games only for them to just peace out.</font>

[Emperor Smeat]

<font color=goldenrod>Also worth noting that the Chargers and Raiders both will be given money by the NFL to try and work out stadium deals with their current cities. The Chargers were given more than the Raiders, which suggests that the league doesn't actually want the Chargers to relocate if they can avoid it.

Fail to see how 2 LA teams isn't going to bomb spectacularly.</font>

With the way the rumors were going near the end, seemed like the NFL wanted the Chargers to do a sole bid to move to LA while the Raiders would have taken over San Diego or St Louis for moving purposes if all were to leave.

Chargers being way too committed to the Chargers-Raiders plan to budge and Raiders giving several hints they'd be willing to back out probably made the NFL think Chargers were more likely to stay between the two. The Chargers getting $100 million seems like the NFL knows it would be enough to sway them to stay since the Raiders are going to bolt the second they get the opportunity now.

St Louis as a possible choice for the Raiders got thrown under the bus when the Rams owner trashed the city in his relocation letter.

[Nark Order]

The Raiders might do well to wait this out a little bit longer. Oakland is no longer the hell hole that it used to be and there is money all over the place there. As Oakland slowly gets gentrified into San Francisco 2, opportunities for a new stadium are going to present themselves eventually. Oakland is fated to become just a town of investors and millionaires. Between the money given for stadium upgrades by the NFL and private investors, something can probably happen

[Nark Order]

And if the Chargers have to stay in San Diego next year, that is going to be fucking bananas to watch. The fans already checked out at the beginning of this season. They totally feel betrayed by that organization. I'm sure if the Chargers end up staying, management will try to spin it like they never actually wanted to leave or something. It's all a clusterfuck.

[Simple Fan]

Hue Jackson agrees to necome the Browns head coach.

[screech]

Poor Hue

[Droford]

Found it odd Lawrence Phillips died in jail like 2 hours after they announced the Rams were moving. He was drafted by the Rams in 96, the 2nd year they were in St Louis.

[Emperor Smeat]

Hue Jackson agrees to necome the Browns head coach.

Manziel's a safe bet to be gone now since that was a request Jackson had prior to getting hired.

[Droford]

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/snXkmyRzJ6s" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

<font color=goldenrod>I really can't imagine how depressing it would be to have your team move away. It's sometimes hard for me to empathize since none of my teams are a threat to move (I don't count the Islanders going to Brooklyn, if anything that just assures they'll still be relatively "local" to me for the long haul) but shit...I can't imagine pumping hours into watching a team and going to a ton of games only for them to just peace out.</font>

Baltimore had it done to them with the Colts. I was 2 when it happened so i dont remember it but there are plenty of people in Baltimore who 30+ years later are still not over it despite getting the Ravens 20 years ago.

Its pretty interesting because theres a Johnny Unitas statue out front of M&T and a couple of Baltimore Colts players in the Ravens Ring of Honor and the Ravens kept the Colts Marching Band which never disbanded when the Colts moved.

[ClockShot]

I can totally picture Hue Jackson calling Johnny Rehab up to his office then playing this over the intercom while waiting for him to arrive.

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/rhKy6GpV0B8" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen=""></iframe>


:lol:

[ClockShot]

Chargers bring in Ken Whisenhunt to be the new Offensive Coordinator.

Whether this fixes things in San Diego is another question.

[McLegend]

The St. Louis Raiders or San Diego Raiders is a terrible idea.

Raiders need to stay in Oakland. I don't really care about any other teams moving.

[Simple Fan]

Yeah would like to see the Raiders get a new stadium in Oakland. Dont think LA really needs 2 teams. San Antonio seems like the best spot if the do make a move.

[Innovator]

McAdoo gets the promotion, new HC of the Giants