DC Universe Thread

[Lock Jaw]

Could not find anything in my search of google.

[The Destroyer]

Based on a quick skim of a DC wiki, doesn't look like they're actual characters from the comics.

[Kalyx triaD]

Then it would be an honor if they were to pop up in the official universe, though it seems like something more likely before DCnU.

[Lock Jaw]

I don't know why you would even have that thought.

[Kalyx triaD]

It seems likely that the Batman in the coming Justice League film will be the Batman who 'rose' in a recent epic movie. Take this as you will.

[Damian Rey]

Dear God, no. The Nolan universe should be left alone.

[Kalyx triaD]

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_me4wbaUYX51r7ni1io1_1280.jpg

[Kalyx triaD]

He's the Goshdarn Batman.

[Damian Rey]

And he's awesome.

[Krimzon7]

I love this comic strip so friggin much. I haven't anticipated a strip like this since I got into The Boondocks

[Krimzon7]

Also, Arrow is great this week. Last week was an interesting twist on the Royal Flush Gang. This week is great. I know China White, but I'm not sure if the 'damsel in distress/tortured soul' is exclusive to the show.

I also love the little relationship/love triangle involving Ollie and Merlin. SHit's gonna get epic in a few.

[Krimzon7]

holy shit that's the huntress!!! This show is great

[Kalyx triaD]

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_me9jjb7ngP1r7ni1io1_1280.jpg

[Kalyx triaD]

It's a bird, it's a plane, it's pwnage.

[Miotch]

just noticed the donkey is eeyore

[parkmania]

Man of Steel director Zack Snyder hinted that the Superman film, due out June 14, 2013 (see "Warners Flogs 'Man of Steel'"), will lead into Warners’ Justice League (see "Warner Bros. Slates 'Justice League' Movie for 2015") in an interview with the New York Post. The Post asked Snyder whether he’d been talking to the studio "...about integrating Man of Steel into a larger superhero universe," and got a non-denial denial. "I can’t really say anything to that, because that’s a big spoiler," Snyder said. "I will say, yeah, they trust me to keep them on course."

[Kalyx triaD]

CW's Amazon Lead Details:

She comes from a remote, secluded country and until now has spent most of her life as a soldier and a leader on the battlefield. Because of relentless brutality of her life at home, Iris looks at our world with absolute awe and astonishment. She’s delighted and just as often horrified by the aspects of everyday life that we take for granted: skyscrapers, traffic, ice cream. It’s all new and fascinating and sometimes slightly troubling to her. Iris is completely unschooled in our world, our culture, our customs. And she’s completely inexperienced at interpersonal relationships. She has no social filter, does not suffer fools, and tends to do and say exactly what’s on her mind at all times. She’s bluntly, refreshingly honest. She can tell when you’re lying to her. And she doesn’t have time or patience for politics or tact because she’s too busy trying to experience everything our world has to offer. There are too many sights to see and things to learn and people to care for. Hers is a true, noble, and generous heart. And she will fight and die for the people she loves. Iris is a fierce warrior with the innocent heart of a romantic and she will fight to the death to make the world safe for innocents and true romantics everywhere.

Also her name is Iris, not Diana.

[Tom Guycott]

I love this comic strip so friggin much. I haven't anticipated a strip like this since I got into The Boondocks

... as Bruce takes his mask off to reveal he's really Huey.

[Nowhere Man]

Why Iris? That just seems unnecessary.

[Lock Jaw]

Probably because they want to "save" Wonder Woman for their supposed Justice League movie, so they are just verrrry loosely borrowing some ideas for the "Amazon" show.

[Nowhere Man]

Okay, apparently, they're not changing her name to Iris, but just using a code name to try and prevent speculation. Which, considering that Wonder Woman is one of the most easily recognizable superheroes in pop-culture history, is like doing a Batman TV show and trying to keep the Bruce Wayne role a secret by changing his name to Dan.

[RP]

yah

[parkmania]

Wasn't there a "replacement" Wonder Woman for a short time in the comics? I think her name was Artemis or something?

[Lock Jaw]

I know I have seen pics of Artemis going around in a Wonder Woman costume before. No idea the context of the story, though.

[Nowhere Man]

Yeah, Artemis replaced Diana as WW for a little bit back in the 90s, and weirdly enough, Diana was her sidekick. It was very stupid.

[Tom Guycott]

Okay, apparently, they're not changing her name to Iris, but just using a code name to try and prevent speculation. Which, considering that Wonder Woman is one of the most easily recognizable superheroes in pop-culture history, is like doing a Batman TV show and trying to keep the Bruce Wayne role a secret by changing his name to Dan.

What? Birds of Prey?

[Tom Guycott]

holy shit that's the huntress!!! This show is great

Upset they haven't updated the show on Hulu yet. Last ep up is the Royal Flush gang one.

Hulu needs to stop playing with my emotions like this.

[Krimzon7]

The Pirate Bay is my friend.

[parkmania]

Manu Bennett, a fan favorite from the Spartacus TV series, will portray Slade Wilson in the CW’s Arrow TV series. As comic fans are well aware, Slade Wilson is the alter ego of Deathstroke, a major DC villain created by Marv Wolfman and George Perez in The New Teen Titans #2 in 1980. The Deathstroke character has already made an appearance on Arrow where he was seen in costume (played by another actor) in a very brief flashback scene.



Bennett will appear as Slade Wilson in multiple episodes of Arrow, some of which will include flashbacks to the South Pacific island of Lian Yu where Oliver Queen and Wilson were marooned together and formed an uneasy alliance.



According Entertainment Weekly, Wilson will continue to appear as the Gaul Crixus in the final season of the Spartacus TV series, while filming multiple episodes of Arrow for this season. No word yet on when Bennett’s Slade Wilson will shed his normal identity and get in costume as Deathstroke/Terminator. Bennett, who is from New Zealand, will also play an Orc Chieftain in Peter Jackson’s Hobbit films.

[Kalyx triaD]

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_meg060YuGY1r7ni1io1_1280.jpg

[Tom Guycott]

I find myself (most specifically with Bruce) picturing a combination of the "child" voices from that one episode of Justice League when they got turned into kids and those Arby's commercials where they pitch up the adult voices to make them sound like kids on a playground instead of adults in an office (for pretty much everyone else besides Clark and Diana).

[Kalyx triaD]

Yeah I imagine the JLU kids episode voices. For those that weren't there; I imagine Power Girl having a husky though less zany Honey Boo Boo voice, J'onn having a smoother low black kid's voice, Barry(Wally?) having a fast ADHD voice, and Hal having a mature toned balanced voiced.

[Kalyx triaD]

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/1878ejq6mhtu6jpg/original.jpg

Clark being a total gentleman here.

[Kalyx triaD]

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/1878p4b99h4npjpg/original.jpg

[Lock Jaw]

Man of Steel costume still looking like trash. Material seems fit for Aquaman.

[Kalyx triaD]

Looks fine to me. The 'thick scuba suit' thing is kinda the norm for movie superhero costumes and even gets fair explanation in the recent Spider-Man movie. I don't think there's a way around it, unless you want something kinda whacky looking in the vein of Kick-Ass (which is telling in that his attire was almost parody).

[Lock Jaw]

Looks fine to me. The 'thick scuba suit' thing is kinda the norm for movie superhero costumes and even gets fair explanation in the recent Spider-Man movie. I don't think there's a way around it, unless you want something kinda whacky looking in the vein of Kick-Ass (which is telling in that his attire was almost parody).

Something more like Kick-Ass kinda materials would been cool, but sadly would never happen today.

[Kalyx triaD]

Looks silly to me, though I do like Kick-Ass.

[boberman2]

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[Kalyx triaD]

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_men7v9kKG01r7ni1io1_1280.jpg

[Krimzon7]

LOL, perfect

[Kalyx triaD]

Lil Hal and J'on playing Star Fox makes sense, and it seems there's one thing Flash isn't fast enough for.

[Blitz]

Found it pretty lol

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[The Destroyer]

That was pretty good. I can buy Bane as a nutrition freak.

[McLegend]

So I got The Dark Knight Rises on Tuesday, and I still like it. The ending fight with Batman and Bane is my favorite part of the movie.

However I watched the Dark Knight yesterday it's been like 6 months since I've seen, and it is so good. The movie never slows done, and it never lets up. Just great scene after great scene.


It's the closest thing to a perfect movie. I love it so much.

[Lock Jaw]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/302796_448296781898765_634814620_n.jpg

[Krimzon7]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/302796_448296781898765_634814620_n.jpg

:rofl:

[mitchables]

Gail Simone has been let go (http://au.ign.com/articles/2012/12/09/gail-simone-fired-from-batgirl), via email, as writer of Batgirl.

Interestingly, when a follower tweeted at her, "Did you not put enough women in refrigerators or something?", referring to her coining of the phrase about the treatment of women in comics (Kyle Rayner's girlfriend was murdered and stuffed in his fridge). Simone simply replied, "Funny you should say that."

I've always enjoyed Simone's work, and I follow her on Twitter and Tumblr because she is one of a few creators who actively engages with her fan base. And not just in a passing, 'I'm only responding to this because I feel obligated to', sense, but one in which she often writes lengthy, well-thought-out and sometimes argumentative posts about her thoughts on gender and social issues in comics. Can't help but think that maybe the DC brass stumbled on to one of her more openly critical posts, maybe.

[mitchables]

It's a damn shame, either way.

[Lock Jaw]

Maybe she said she wanted to bring in Stephanie Brown. :shifty:

[Lock Jaw]

Hopefully she gets another book to write, because she is "the goods".

[mitchables]

Yeah, she is. Hoping it's just her being pulled from Batgirl and not being dropped from DC altogether.

Though I'd love to see her write some more Marvel stuff.

[Shadow]

If she does go back to Marvel, hope they throw her on Deadpool again.

[Lock Jaw]

Was totally going to buy The Dark Knight Rises today.... but pretty much all the special features are Blu-Ray only. That's total bushwa. I do not have Blu-Ray playing capability.

Passed on buying it due to lack of special features. Will just illegally download it instead. I hope they are happy.

[Krimzon7]

HOLY FUCK THIS LOOKS GOOOOD


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[Kalyx triaD]

Wow.

[Nowhere Man]

Aaaaaaaaaaand I came.

[Krimzon7]

took my breath away. Nolan is absolutely the goods

[Kalyx triaD]

Think we should credit Zack Snyder for not being pretentious this time.

Made a new exclusive thread for this, any news I find will be posted there as usual.

[Krimzon7]

Aaaaaaaaaaand I came.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAND THERE GOES OKINAWA! Does anybody else get it?

[Kalyx triaD]

Colton Haynes ("Teen Wolf") has joined the cast of the CW's "Arrow", TV Guide reports. He'll play none other than longtime Green Arrow sidekick Roy Harper.

With Ollie's little sister having Speedy as a nickname, I'd think they were going to promote her something down the line. Also, I'd think they wouldn't get in the sidekick business so soon.

[Krimzon7]

So, do you think Ollie will kill Merlin's dad in the season finale, finally sending Merlin off the deep end and starting the feud between the two?

[Kalyx triaD]

I have been wondering how they will evolve the Merlin thing, since so far he's a nice, sympathetic character. Then again Lex also started this way in Smallville, so I guess that would raise the tragedy level. They would need to find a way to make him adopt archery and then get to Ollie's level, which is Hawkeye level badassery. Just as interested in seeing Laur- Dinah's transformation into Black Canary, since a lot more nods were given that way.

With the well done Huntress arc out of the way, I would really like to see Ollie just add a damn mask to his suit. While I've been conditioned to accept domino masks and glasses somehow disguising a whole face, mere face paint is pushing it.

[slik]

I liked the new Man Of Steel preview.

I wonder why the Joker isn't targeting Batwoman in the "Death of the Family" arc playing out in Batman right now.

[Kalyx triaD]

Batwoman's just barely a part of the Bat-family. Did she get involved with the Owls thing? She's like a distant cousin whereas Batwing gets some action at least.

[Lock Jaw]

Just re-read the last few arcs of the pre-Flashpoint Justice League.

Huge mistake.

The final issue is the most depressing thing ever.

[Kalyx triaD]

Do tell.

[slik]

Batwoman's just barely a part of the Bat-family. Did she get involved with the Owls thing? She's like a distant cousin whereas Batwing gets some action at least.

I don't think she was involved with the Court of Owls. I know Morrison used her in Batman, Inc but maybe Snyder isn't interested in her character much.

[Kalyx triaD]

http://25.media.tumblr.com/89eeb1fc1e1cc9b1502f8288ba7f6319/tumblr_meya4dYdef1r7ni1io1_1280.jpg

[Krimzon7]

I was just wondering if they'd ever show hal using any green lantern powers.

[Lock Jaw]

I bet the performance is by... uhhh... The Prankster.

Or Lobo.

[Kalyx triaD]

Zatarra? Zatanna? Both?

[Tom Guycott]

Power Girl's reaction looks like she got hit with a trash can in River City Ransom.

[Kalyx triaD]

I guess it was obvious how to handle Green Arrow's famous rival, Merlyn. And dat showdown was brutal.

[Krimzon7]

Yeah, it was pretty obvious after watching all the episodes how taht was gonna play out. Good to see it come to fruition. This show has some definite possibility

[McLegend]

I haven't seen the last Arrow yet, but you know what I like the show.

I think the biggest reason I like the show is because of the The dude playing Oliver Queen. He's pretty good.

[Lock Jaw]

Young Justice returns on January 5th, BTW.

[Shadow]

Oh thank god.

[Krimzon7]

Thank the GOOD LORD.

[Kalyx triaD]

Pretty sure Stephanie will have recolored hair.

[Kalyx triaD]

http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/sexy-busty-girls-flbp-41.jpg

[Kalyx triaD]

Random Art by Yale:

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/15518_295722727215026_959759650_n.jpg
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/167422_295709723882993_753719261_n.jpg

[Lock Jaw]

Gail Simone has been let go (http://au.ign.com/articles/2012/12/09/gail-simone-fired-from-batgirl), via email, as writer of Batgirl.

The new writer of Batgirl has been revealed.





It's Gail Simone.

[DaveBrawl]

DC with the swerve.

[Nowhere Man]

DC's new Editor-in-Chief: Vince Russo.

[Kalyx triaD]

Damage control.

[Shadow]

Had to be. No other reason to reverse the decision.

[Lock Jaw]

The reason is that they will play it off as NEW and DARING, and start off with a BRAND NEW number one. Also, Batgirl will have a NEW HAT!







:shifty:

[Tom Guycott]

Damage control.

Doesn't that belong in the Marvel thread? :shifty:

[Damian Rey]

I got my third monthly issue of "Batman" yesterday. Pretty sure I'm a month behind sure to DC lagging, but thus far, from the start of the story arc to issue #15, I'm loving "Death to the Family". Don't know how others generally feel about the current going ons, but I'm hooked thus far.

[Krimzon7]

FUCKING FINALLY!

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[Damian Rey]

About time, dammit.

[Nowhere Man]

Awesome.

[Shadow]

....HOLY SHIT MONGOL!

[Kalyx triaD]

Static Shock! Hell yeah.

[Kalyx triaD]

Found this nugget YouTube mining. The ending is totally worth it.

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[Nowhere Man]

I don't know why, but it always strikes me as incredibly weird to hear Hamill's Joker swearing. I guess it's just because he never did in the show.

[Kalyx triaD]

http://25.media.tumblr.com/c4d637da74edecbabdab22c3ce919614/tumblr_mfq89b7HR71r7ni1io1_1280.jpg

[Triple Naitch]

Anybody listen to Fatman on Batman? Really enjoy the podcast. The Scott Snyder interview was pretty interesting.

[Kalyx triaD]

Been gorging on Justice League Unlimited episodes. Anybody have favorite episodes and moments from the entire DC Animated Universe line?

Batman: TAS/Batman: TNA
Superman: TAS
Batman Beyond
Static Shock
Project ZETA
Justice League/Justice League Unlimited

[McLegend]

Batman TAS: Heart of Ice

The New Batman adventures: Over the edge

Superman TAS: Legacy... World's Finest also gets a mention

Batman Beyond: Out of the Past

Justice League: The entire Cadmus arc... That's the highest point of the entire DCAU.

[Nowhere Man]

God, I loved the DCAU. So many kickass moments out of those shows.

Some of my favorites:

Batman the Animated Series:

Batman's dream-sequence after being poisoned by Scarecrow:
http://youtu.be/BW1jU_rex8Y

The Joker's eulogy when he thinks Batman's dead:
http://youtu.be/Ld0uIhst3TA

Killer Croc's "Almost Got Him" story:
http://youtu.be/HEdg4glpCkg

The final confrontation with the Joker (okay, this is technically from the Batman Beyond movie, but it uses characters from BTAS):
http://youtu.be/_JEa71aS3oU

Superman The Animated Series:

Clark spills the beans to Lois, kinda sorta:
http://youtu.be/gbQBI1ZMugo

Basically the entire episode of "Brave New Metropolis:"
http://youtu.be/-SMMK8wtwiQ

Superman's final battle with Darkseid:
http://youtu.be/ZVzGyqSbGew

Justice League/Unlimited:

The Question confronts Lex Luthor, only to find out why you never piss off Lex Luthor:
http://youtu.be/9iizKYUNY3I

Shining Knight gets his ass handed to him, keeps fighting anyway:
http://youtu.be/YRiOxDy-HcI

Superman and Captain Marvel slug it out and destroy an entire city:
http://youtu.be/6BJ1-trrgqc

[Kalyx triaD]

Justice League is the pinnacle of comic book cartoons. I could say the usual Batman TAS nod but there's just too many moments in that era of the DCAU that made me happy to be born in this era of human history to see them. Not even joking.

[Lock Jaw]

Yeah. Was recently surprised when I saw that CW still plays Justice League as part of its Saturday Morning Lineup.... but then I was like "Well, actually... that is pretty much the height of superhero cartoons, so I guess it makes sense"

[Kalyx triaD]

http://25.media.tumblr.com/abdf52b91dd2bed99d4ff18099964416/tumblr_mfwujuFBVe1r7ni1io1_1280.jpg

This is pretty much the sweetest, most honest and relatable thing I've seen in a while.

[Krimzon7]

Every time I see clark now, I think of this picture:

http://25.media.tumblr.com/39d6c5e721b6ce6b692e793a3f7f312e/tumblr_mf1ld52g6w1r7ni1io1_500.jpg

[Krimzon7]

additionally I love this commissioned piece.

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/876_299105736876725_468352069_n.jpg

[mitchables]

http://25.media.tumblr.com/abdf52b91dd2bed99d4ff18099964416/tumblr_mfwujuFBVe1r7ni1io1_1280.jpg

This is pretty much the sweetest, most honest and relatable thing I've seen in a while.

I DON'T SHIP THEM


That's still really sweet though. But no. That ship will not sail.

[McLegend]

I just read

Batman Year One
Dark Victory
Hush

I was slighty disappointed with Batman Year one. I thought it was going to be different and delve more into his trainning, and pre-Batman things. Still good.

Dark Victory I really liked. I enjoyed the Robin orgin, and it was good mystery. Not as good as Long Halloween.

Hush was really good. I really liked the interaction between Batman and Catwoman. Also a good mystery, and the ultimate revel was a little confusing, but it still worked it terms of the story.

I think Hush was my favorite.

[Kalyx triaD]

I DON'T SHIP THEM


That's still really sweet though. But no. That ship will not sail.

The Diana's B-Day/Love Triangle arc is likely going to blow up by the 100th episode.

[mitchables]

The Diana's B-Day/Love Triangle arc is likely going to blow up by the 100th episode.

Nah I mean in general. Even in mainline DCNU comics. Just not a fan of Diana and Clark together.

I am a Bruce/Diana shipper, though.

[Lock Jaw]

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q223/Trrrath/Picture1-35.png

[Kalyx triaD]

Nah I mean in general. Even in mainline DCNU comics. Just not a fan of Diana and Clark together.

I am a Bruce/Diana shipper, though.

DCAU handled that in a cute way.

[Nowhere Man]

Which reminds me of another one of the best moments in the DCAU:
http://youtu.be/ncj-wpBhr5E

[Kalyx triaD]

Oh yeah that was awesome. And Animal Man!

[mitchables]

DCAU handled that in a cute way.

Yeah, I loved their exchanges and general relationship in the DCAU. This Little Piggy is easily one of JLU's sweetest episodes. I dunno. Something about them together, or even not together but still obviously into each other, gels better with me than the alternative. But eh. It's not something that makes or breaks comics for me really.

[mitchables]

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q223/Trrrath/Picture1-35.png

wtf was the artist thinking in that last panel

[Lock Jaw]

Dunno. Looks like one of those terrible "meme face"s.

[Fignuts]

Calvin and Hobbes will always be the most awesome, heartwarming comic ever to me, but I gotta say, this "lil' justice league" is some pretty classy stuff.

[Kalyx triaD]

I have more interest reading that than the actual DCnU Justice League comic.

[Triple Naitch]

I don't get it.

[Kalyx triaD]

DC characters as kids.

[Triple Naitch]

Oh ok

[Damian Rey]

Hush wasn't as good the second time I read it. Year One was awesome, but it's a Gordon story first and foremost.

Dark Victory was a solid follow up to the Long Halloween.

[Lock Jaw]

Dang. Hate it when a series gets canceled and is left with dangling plotlines.

[slik]

Wonder when they will introduce Mongul into the new 52. Probably not anytime soon since Darkseid is still fairly recent and Mongul is a bit of a rip-off.

[Lock Jaw]

Well... he was last seen being trapped into the Yellow Power Battery or something by Sinestro... and since Green Lantern got pretty much no reboot... that could very well still be in continuity.

[mitchables]

What got cancelled?

Also, Scott Lobdell's off Red Hood and the Outlaws. About time.

[Lock Jaw]

What got cancelled?

Swamp Thing volume 3 back in 2001. :shifty:


Also, too bad Red Hood and the Outlaws ISN'T canceled.

[mitchables]

Swamp Thing volume 3 back in 2001. :shifty:


Also, too bad Red Hood and the Outlaws ISN'T canceled.

Oh :D

Well the dude that's taking over is apparently a Snyder protege, so it might actually turn around. Here's hoping, anyway.

Either way, Lobdell just needs to go, period. He does terrible work. His Lois Lane is truly fucking awful.

[Lock Jaw]

I've been using my holiday period to finish reading the old Swamp Thing. Finished up vol 2 and vol 3. Currently starting vol 4, which is the last stuff until the current series.

[Nowhere Man]

Either way, Lobdell just needs to go, period. He does terrible work. His Lois Lane is truly fucking awful.

Seriously. I don't get how you can have an A-lister like Grant Morrison, somebody who knows how to write a genuinely excellent Superman story, on the secondary title, while the main Superman comic is being handled by the same guy who turned Starfire into a blow-up doll.

[mitchables]

http://media.tumblr.com/957e740f1ede72e1e991fe73a9a65edd/tumblr_inline_mfyx0fDz9i1qbujox.png

Lois Lane, entertainment reporter, apparently.

This is the woman who used to be able to bring down anybody with one article, who never gave up on chasing a story regardless of the personal danger it put her in, who believes in the power of the media to have a lasting and wide-reaching impact. I know Lois Lane, and this is not her.

[Kalyx triaD]

Let it go.

[mitchables]

I don't tell you what to get excitable about, Kalyx. Let me be. I mentioned it in one post, then made a second post elaborating. I'm not exactly harping on it.

[Kalyx triaD]

I wouldn't mind if you told me. Sometimes I need to be reigned in.

[Kalyx triaD]

http://24.media.tumblr.com/b2de9ee7f0d2194b67be7022176b733d/tumblr_mg279oXyZT1r7ni1io1_1280.jpg

[Kalyx triaD]

http://24.media.tumblr.com/80f8bdc6647c5b10839bf3d043994aa6/tumblr_mg31e9Ho4g1qdeazoo1_1280.png

[Tom Guycott]

http://25.media.tumblr.com/c4d637da74edecbabdab22c3ce919614/tumblr_mfq89b7HR71r7ni1io1_1280.jpg

And he whispers to Bruce: "... I do cocaine."




Sorry, I had catching up to do.

Also, Lawerence Welk under Snuggies... doesn't get anymore whitebread than that.

[Kalyx triaD]

http://24.media.tumblr.com/b4753c0ef61688913961f7724ff1e06d/tumblr_mg51v0wedt1qdeazoo1_1280.png

He's doing one of these for every major character.

[Krimzon7]

I can't wait to see Hal and Barry

[Lock Jaw]

Young Justice returns:

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Gonna watch this now

[Lock Jaw]

Somehow I think I have seen this one already.

EDIT- Damn. This episode was available on iTunes back in October, but only aired on the Cartoon Network today. So their first new episode back is one I already seen. Will watch it anyways, I guess.

[Krimzon7]

SUCKS DOESN'T IT. at least they left stephanie brown in

[Krimzon7]

OH. MY. GOD. This is my favorite right now

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/12577_304099259710706_990123949_n.png

[Kalyx triaD]

That's a cool. Kinda catches the wonder of childhood imagination.

[Krimzon7]

I think that's what I love so much about Yale's approach. He finds a way to capture the innocence of Childhood in these renderings. It's no easy feat and his talent is defintely worthy of admiration

[Tom Guycott]

Totally started humming "The Moon" from the NES Ducktales looking at that pic, and remembering that I used to stare up like that at night when I was young enough not to need glasses. Space was so limitless, and there could be ANYTHING up there happening RIGHT NOW!!! ^_^

[Lock Jaw]

Having glasses does not prevent you from staring up at the night sky. I do it all the time.

[Tom Guycott]

No, it doesn't. However, that childlike wonder was a lot higher when I could see the face on the moon without the aid of eyewear. Also, I was like 5. 5 is synonymous with "childlike wonder".

More about passage of time and metaphors and less about actual ability.

[Kalyx triaD]

I happen to still have 'childlike wonder', cynical as I am.

I can still appreciate a full moon, mountain range, waterfall, boobs.

[Tom Guycott]

Boobs should not be included there. You can be about as disgruntled at the world as Stinkmeaner, and still enjoy titties in your face. Also, counter-intuitive to the whole "childlike wonder" aspect, unless you're looking at boobs as a source of nutrition instead of fun.

I doubt little Hal is thinking of chesticles there.

[Kalyx triaD]

"That was a joke, ever heard of them?" - [redacted]

[Kalyx triaD]

Shot From Upcoming DC Animated Feature; "Superman Unbound":

http://static.tvguide.com/Includes/newsletter-images/blog-images/loislane-supergirl-embed1.jpg

The movie is based on the Brainiac storyline from a few years ago. Enjoy this, because after this the animated movies may take design cues from DCnU with the old universe killing Flashpoint event becoming an animated movie.

[Lock Jaw]

Cool. Didn't even know they were making this Superman Unbound movie.

[Lock Jaw]

Would be "cool" if they did a "New Krypton" movie afterwards. Story would obviously need to be much abbreviated, but that could be a good thing.

[Kalyx triaD]

Yeah, that was an interesting concept.

[McLegend]

Why can't they do old DC universe movies and new DC universe animated movies?

Would anyone have a problem with that?

[Kalyx triaD]

DC.

[McLegend]

Damn them

[Lock Jaw]

Kalyx is just talking out his ass again. Nothing to support his claim that they will not be making old DC Universe movies.

[Kalyx triaD]

Okay.

[Lock Jaw]

Yup.

[Lock Jaw]

I've been using my holiday period to finish reading the old Swamp Thing. Finished up vol 2 and vol 3. Currently starting vol 4, which is the last stuff until the current series.

Finished this up. Have now read every Swamp Thing thing in existence.

[Kalyx triaD]

MOTHER OF GOD:

First rumored by Latino Review last fall, IGN has now confirmed with Guillermo del Toro that plans are underway for a DC Comics ensemble film that will star quite a few of the company's supernatural characters. Similar in lineup to the current "Justice League Dark" series, the film version is being developed with the title Dark Universe and has just hired a mystery writer.

"I'm working on it," del Toro says. "I'm writing the outline and we're already in talks with a writer. A very, very good writer. People are probably going to be happy with who we have chosen. He accepted. I've been courting this writer, who I think is the perfect guy for this job. We're doing it. Hopefully it will happen."

The Pacific Rim director goes on to hint that the lineup for the project includes Swamp Thing, The Demon, John Constantine, Deadman, The Spectre and the father/daughter pair of Zatara and Zatanna.

"The movement for this happened before [The Avengers]," del Toro adds about DC building its own cinematic universe. "They were already galvanized to launch 'Justice League' and they were galvanized to make their universe cohesive... They are really, really, with 'Superman', very, very confident with what they have. They are now feeling they have two pillars. Batman and Superman... There's a foundation that now they can build on."

I couldn't even report this right I just copy-pasta'd the whole thing. Holy shit.

[Krimzon7]

OMG!!! I just pray that he isn't talking about hiring M Knight Shamalyn

[KIRA]

BATMAN TAS:Babydoll because the end is WRENCHING and while Batman has shown compassion in the show many times here he just allows him self to be hugged and puts a hand on her head.

NEW BATMAN ADVENTURES: Toss up NEVER FEAR and Over the edge


JL DIVIDED WE FALL


Superman Adventures one word LOBO!!! (well one name)

BATMAN BEYOND:OUT OF THE PAST paraphrasing "lady that is the creepiest thing Ive ever heard"
"you're creeped out she kissed me!

[Tom Guycott]

OMG!!! I just pray that he isn't talking about hiring M Knight Shamalyn

Green Lantern is the new Batman! Wonder Woman is a man! The villain can be defeated with wood and is allergic to water! What a twist!

[Lock Jaw]

I seriously think Swamp Thing (with John Constantine in his supporting cast) and The Spectre could support solo movies.

In the case of Swamp Thing, a reboot. Since he already had one or two movies.

Don't know how it will go introducing that many obscure characters in one film.

[Lock Jaw]

Nevertheless, I hope it is true.

[Kalyx triaD]

http://25.media.tumblr.com/840171ac5272eabbf2175a5aa519b3bb/tumblr_mgeck5y7xw1r7ni1io1_1280.jpg

A tad underwhelming for a 100th entry, but congrats to him.

[Lock Jaw]

Y: The Last Man has finally got a director attached to it: Dan Trachtenberg

He has zero film credits, but has done commercials and this thing:

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[Lock Jaw]

Y: The Last Man would probably make a better TV show than a movie. Nevertheless, I will be excited if the thing finally gets made and looks to be decent.

[Nowhere Man]

Not sure where else to put this, but the guys at ScrewAttack, with help from the folks at Kanzenshuu, The Dao of Dragonball, the Superman Home Page, and the Superman Super Site, have put together probably the most extensive and exhaustive breakdown to finally settle the old "Superman vs. Goku" debate once and for all:

http://www.screwattack.com/shows/originals/death-battle/death-battle-goku-vs-superman

[Lock Jaw]

I enjoyed that way too much. Goku was kinda a dick, though.

[McLegend]

The shit was awesome. Mind you it was mighty gay, but still awesome.

[Lock Jaw]

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/2HrFrAspWF8" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Listening to this theme right now. I really "dig it" as a "Superman theme". They reused this theme in Superman vs The Elite.

[Kalyx triaD]

http://24.media.tumblr.com/131b86da8f88761925b99b197300c57a/tumblr_mgjcj3CDuS1r7ni1io1_1280.jpg

[Lock Jaw]

How will the caped crusader escape this one? Tune in next time, same bat-website, same bat-day!

[stultiloquy]

Decided on a whim to read through Preacher again.

I haven't touched the books since the series ended, and I'm loving it just as much as I did back in high school.

[Nark Order]

Anybody know a good Clayface arc for Batman? Looking for specific issues or a graphic novel

[Lock Jaw]

Alan Moore wrote a story about Clayface once. Batman Annual #11. Not about the one people are most familiar with, but I remember thinking it was a cool story.

I also remember something about a "Mud Pack" storyline that I had maybe one or two issues of when I was a kid but remember nothing about.

[Krimzon7]

I was missing Captian Marvel.

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[Lock Jaw]

I like how they are interviewing the kids who they rescued, but Stephanie Brown is nowhere in sight.

[Kalyx triaD]

I noticed. Whatever, DC.

Big ups for Static Shock, though.

[Krimzon7]

Dude, Stephanie Brown wasn't a metahuman. Only Meta Humans were in the hallway.

You guys are looking too deep into the conspiracy. technically Stephanie Brown wasn't abducted long enough to have had any contact/experimaentation with the reach.

[Krimzon7]

Was it just me, or did Captian Atom look 'depleted' after he tried to blast the pyramid?

[Kalyx triaD]

They still would have questioned her, as they did Blue and Impulse. It wasn't an interview, it was an investigation. We're not calling it a conspiracy, but there's a good chance she was removed from whatever they had planned for her.

Or maybe it was a cameo that would lead to nothing anyway, but bear in mind there is a generational theme with this season as the original Team have their own proteges. It may have been planned that Barbara would recruit Steph as a new Batgirl (or simply Spoiler if DC wants to sell Babs as THE Batgirl right now). I wouldn't put it past them.

And while it would be easy to remove Steph or recolor her hair, the best flag would be any plots involving Babs that should lead to a Steph introduction/promotion but doesn't.

[Lock Jaw]

I was pulling for L-Ron to stick around and be their robo-butler.

[Kalyx triaD]

Yeah I kinda like him. He was fun. Billy gave him the comedic squash beat, though.

[dronepool]

The Dark Knight Returns Part 2. It was great, but I HATE that Superman is a tool for the government. I like him, so seeing him do stuff like that makes me disappointed.

[Kalyx triaD]

It's called story telling, dude. Never get that attached to a fictional character. How Superman is portrayed in that story makes perfect sense not to mention it set up the Bruce/Clark dynamic that echoes to this day.

[Krimzon7]

ripping this shit right now to watch! Fuck me in the nostrils i'm excited.

[Lock Jaw]

I will wait until I have the time to watch Part 1 & 2 back to back.

[Kalyx triaD]

I saw part 1 already and will eagerly dive into part 2. It's a pretty good adaptation.

[McLegend]

Part 1 is good stuff.

I think Peter Weller is the 2nd best Batman that I've heard. I give him a nod over Bruce Greenwood. Who is also good.

Weller is perfect for The Dark Knight Returns.

[Kalyx triaD]

Something about Weller reciting Frank Miller lines is great justice for me.

[McLegend]

Yeah I agree.

Like I can't picture him being a Batman for any other story. His voice fits the Bruce Wayne is a psychopath from TDKR.

I don't know if he would work on any other Batman related thing.

[Nowhere Man]

The Dark Knight Returns Part 2. It was great, but I HATE that Superman is a tool for the government. I like him, so seeing him do stuff like that makes me disappointed.

Considering it was the 80s and Byrne's Superman at the time was kind of a Reaganite yuppie, I wasn't too upset with it. Yeah, it's annoying to see one of my favorite characters written to be an idiot, but A) it serves the purpose of the story, and B) it's an Elseworld story, therefore non-canon, so even though I don't really care for DKR, that doesn't really bother me that much.

[Lock Jaw]

DC has canceled I, Vampire and DC Universe Presents.

[Lock Jaw]

So, next month DC Comics launches 52 new #1s! So make your picks now in the... DC Cancellation Pool! PM me ten picks of which books you think will be canceled first! Winner gets nothing!

I will make my picks publicly now so there is no accusations of me changing my own picks:

<s>1) Hawk and Dove</s>
<s>2) O.M.A.C.</s>
<s>3) Blackhawks</s>
<s>4) I, Vampire</s>
<s>5) Voodoo</s>
6) Batwing
7) Suicide Squad
<s>8) Legion Lost</s>
<s>9) Men of War</s>
10) Red Hood and the Outlaws

Three more to go and I win the game!!! (The game that I, and I alone, am playing)

[DaveBrawl]

I meant to make some picks when you did, but got sidetracked and forgot about it until the first round or two of cancellations had gone down.

Can't believe Hawkman has made it this far. It's gotten better recently, but it started out so poorly I didn't think they'd give it a chance.

[Kalyx triaD]

http://24.media.tumblr.com/1f8cc8fe562049dc9b121692b3d10943/tumblr_mgp3wse53P1r7ni1io1_1280.jpg

[Miotch]

http://designtaxi.com/news/355273/The-Secret-Life-Of-Superheroes/

something for kalyx to touch himself to

[Lock Jaw]

http://blogintomystery.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/action454.jpg

[Triple Naitch]

I love tha cover. I want to start collecting and framing cool comic book covers like that.

[Lock Jaw]

Gunna download that one right now, because I am intrigued about the story.

[Krimzon7]

Black Beetle is so fucking Boss...I thought it was a mystery as to who 'he' is...

[Lock Jaw]

http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/pastclosebehind1-620x593.jpg

http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/pastclosebehind1a-620x241.jpg

[Kalyx triaD]

http://24.media.tumblr.com/17c0de69e141947b1a2924dc0140ff14/tumblr_mgun3e6IqL1r7ni1io1_1280.jpg

[Krimzon7]

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[Kalyx triaD]

http://25.media.tumblr.com/6dea7f939308d120a4d5dd27533c07e6/tumblr_mh0bkzwuHt1r7ni1io1_1280.jpg

[Krimzon7]

This comic is so amazing.

[Damian Rey]

He's the hero Clark needs.

[Kalyx triaD]

After this arc I would love for Ollie to join in.

[Nark Order]

Man, Starman Omnibus vol 3 paperback coming out at the beginning of April. Can't wait, Tbh. Gonna wait for the release of all of these before I continue into the story. Gonna read them as they come along like it's a new series or something because I'm pathetic. :(

[Damian Rey]

Apparently the "Night of Owls" run has been graphic noveled. Really want to pick it up.

[Krimzon7]

Man, has anyone been current on Young Justice? There are so many twists and turns popping off.

It's kinda cool the way they've written off the 'Heavy Hitters' while leaving the big time bad guys here for the kids to deal with. I'm really intrigured with the relationship between Nightwing and Robin. It seems like Kaldur/Artemis is in a world of trouble. It's good to see Deathstroke!!! Theres like five forces at work here: Reach/Black Beetle, The League/Team, The Light/LOD, The Old Heads and Rimbor and Darkseid ( G Gordon is having a helluva impact on the public perception of the League). This is seriously one of the most epic cartoons ever created.

[Kalyx triaD]

The current seems like a re-imagining of the Cadmus arc from DCAU. Just in a more modern media-focused sense. It's really good. And I love the attention given to characters even the DCAU gave little attention to. I hope this universe goes beyond Young Justice. I'd watch a Justice League or Suicide Squad done in this universe.

[Lock Jaw]

I am not a huge fan of the Jamie Reyes Blue Beetle, but they keep pushing him hard in everything. Yet his comic book still got canceled. I do like that they have added the bit about the future and Impulse into the mix. Makes Blue Beetle slightly more interesting.

[Lock Jaw]

Man, Starman Omnibus vol 3 paperback coming out at the beginning of April. Can't wait, Tbh. Gonna wait for the release of all of these before I continue into the story. Gonna read them as they come along like it's a new series or something because I'm pathetic. :(

Or, conversely, awesome. I wish I could read it like I was reading it for the first time.

[Krimzon7]

The current seems like a re-imagining of the Cadmus arc from DCAU. Just in a more modern media-focused sense. It's really good. And I love the attention given to characters even the DCAU gave little attention to. I hope this universe goes beyond Young Justice. I'd watch a Justice League or Suicide Squad done in this universe.

Gotta admit, don't remember this 'arc' you speak of. Would love to check it out and have cataloged for possible future reference. Which episodes/series did it encompass?

I am not a huge fan of the Jamie Reyes Blue Beetle, but they keep pushing him hard in everything. Yet his comic book still got canceled. I do like that they have added the bit about the future and Impulse into the mix. Makes Blue Beetle slightly more interesting.
Blue Beetle seems a tad forced, but it's great to see somebody OTHER than the Bat Family/Supercrew get the Rub from DC. Three Beetles is just one from getting cheesy. I know they've opened the door for a Green Lantern like Corps of independent thinking Beetles, but spare me all that.

[Kalyx triaD]

Justice League Unlimited, first season. You're welcome.

[Blitz]

Some interesting possibilities re-Justice League and the DC movie universe.

Ahoy, squirts! Quint here with an interesting rumor to share. With superhero properties there's always so much secrecy that the internet is flooded with speculation. This bit that showed up today should definitely be classified as rumor, but the guessing game is part of the fun, right? So I thought I'd comment on it.

Batman-On-Film is pretty reputable when it comes to insider Batman stuff. They were all over the Nolan films, for instance, always grabbing info and pics. That's one of the reasons I'm running with this rumor because it comes from them and they vouch for their source.

What they've heard is that WB isn't rushing a new Batfilm into production before Justice League, which makes a lot of sense since they'd have to be pretty far along prep and have a decent script already locked to beat the Justice League's 2015 release date. The date BOF is hearing for the first new Batman solo film is 2017.

So, the new Batman will be introduced in the Justice League and it's still not for sure they're bringing in Henry Cavill's Superman for the film. If Man of Steel flops and is terrible that could mean DC will be doing a complete reversal of Marvel's strategy and introducing everybody in a giant team movie, then spinning off into solo films.

I have a feeling Zack Snyder's Man of Steel will be good and Cavill will be good in it, so that's not too likely, but it's still a head-scratching move from DC. The template has been proven. Are they just too proud to blatantly copy Marvel or just impatient to get at that Avengers money?

Whatever the thought process is, it's make it or break it time for WB and DC. They're either risking missing the superhero craze or rushing some half-assed stuff into production.

Anyway, the rumor makes sense and could just pure educated guess speculation stuff, but still something to ponder, no?

[Shadow]

Blue Beetle, Green Beetle, Black Beetle...we're one Red Beetle from a Big Bad Beetleborg reunion.

[Nowhere Man]

As much as I'm loving YJ, I'm really getting a little turned off by the overload of Beetles. I was really hoping the big apocalyptic future threat would be something along the lines of Darkseid (though considering that they've got bad guys using Apokoliptian tech, and G. Gordon Godfrey was one of Darkseid's lackeys in the comics, I'm sure he'll show up sooner or later), but they're really intent on selling Blue Beetle on us.

[Krimzon7]

I'll say this about Jaime Reyes...This is the most interested I've been in any of the Blue Beetles ever. I think that they've booked the Black Beetle as such a bad ass that they were literally fucked to find a way for Alpha to get outta there with out one of the Heavy Hitters (Especially since Captian Marvel was in the last episode).

I can tolerate maybe one more Beetle in all honestly. Don't wanna see another one, but one more will make me go all 'okay this is getting cheesy'.

Get the odd feeling that the Reach/Light's partnership is trying to prepare the world for Darkseid by cultivating metahumans. As if conquering him and taking over Apokalips is the endgame. I'm spit balling here, but The Reach and Darkseid could be in some type of turf war.

[Damian Rey]

I'll be 31 when the next Batman movie comes out if the 2017 release year is correct. I'm getting ddling ood. I was only 3 when Keaton's Batman came out.

Is YJ ever gonna be on dvd? I'd like to start from the beginning.

[Kalyx triaD]

Is YJ ever gonna be on dvd? I'd like to start from the beginning.

http://www.animeflavor.com/cartoon/young-justice

[Lock Jaw]

Also, the first season is indeed on DVD, albeit in like four volumes or something for some reason.

[Fignuts]

Just came here to say that the following image is total bullshit.

http://i.imgur.com/jorYQKZ.jpg

[Shadow]

Why?? It's part of a legit Batman/Captain America crossover. Why is it bullshit?

[Kalyx triaD]

I think it's cute that even the Joker wouldn't work with a Nazi. It's non-canon, it's cute, let it go.

[Fignuts]

Make me.

[Nowhere Man]

The Joker is a Real American.

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[Blitz]

The final Justice League roster supposedly revealed. (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/60512)

[Kalyx triaD]

Hmm...

[McLegend]

I do mind a little not having Martian Manhunter, but not having Hawkman or Aquaman is fine with me.

[Kalyx triaD]

http://25.media.tumblr.com/15356a6e2db9cb68f7794f4fefeae429/tumblr_mh5mthdhx01r7ni1io1_1280.jpg

Yale's pumping out big episodes at a crazy pace. I wonder if this is the new standard now.

[mitchables]

love the way he portrays bruce and clark. that panel of bruce's hand on clark's shoulder is fucking beautiful.

[Nowhere Man]

It seems a little odd that Aquaman was left out. I mean, yeah, he's the one that everyone jokes on and whatnot, but DC has been really big on trying to revitalize the character, what with him playing a big part in the Justice League comic and Geoff Johns making his book one of his pet projects for a while. Seems like having him kick some ass in the movie would go a long way to changing the common opinion of him.

[Kalyx triaD]

I guess they want character most likely to get new movies after the fact. I doubt Aquaman had a movie in the pipeline.

[Lock Jaw]

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http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1270411036/the-death-of-superman-lives-what-happened

[Nowhere Man]

I really want to see this. SL always looked fascinatingly weird. Yeah, it probably would have been a train wreck, but it's certainly one of the most creative takes on Superman that I've ever seen. I'd love to see some of that concept art get added into the new series (just, y'know, not the stuff with Nicolas Cage fighting polar bears or Brainiac having a gay robot sidekick)

[Tom Guycott]

I think if that movie were actually made with all the "interesting tweaks", we would be talking about it in any conversation that the Super Mario Bros. movie is brought up in.

[Kalyx triaD]

Pretty much. I won't romanticize how 'interesting' it would have been. We would have torn it apart. Batman Forever and Batman & Robin probably sounded interesting at the conceptual level, too.

[Nowhere Man]

No, I definitely agree it would've been godawful. But now that we're pretty much guaranteed to have a good Superman movie, my morbid curiosity wants to see what it could have been.

[slik]

<iframe width="480" height="360" src="http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1270411036/the-death-of-superman-lives-what-happened/widget/video.html" frameborder="0"> </iframe>
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1270411036/the-death-of-superman-lives-what-happened


I would love to read the script and see the production designs for that film.

I'm glad WB isn't including Cyborg inte JL film. I don't really think the character is that great but Geoff Johns sure seems to love him.

[Tom Guycott]

No, I definitely agree it would've been godawful. But now that we're pretty much guaranteed to have a good Superman movie, my morbid curiosity wants to see what it could have been.

To be fair, we were "pretty much guaranteed" that Superman Returns would have been a good movie also. I actually liked it, but the point is, it was pretty well panned in spite of having a directorial genius, Kevin Spacey, and a guy who studied the nuances of Chrisopher Reeve's acting in the Donner films.

[Kalyx triaD]

I wrote this concept for a Wonder Woman TV show just to flex my creative muscle and came up with something I think could run a good two or three seasons then I got bored and erased everything.