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Funky Fly

07-16-2010, 02:56 AM

Looks like trash. Don't know why they couldn't have done something a bit more traditional. Throw some black in there. Not a fan on the "veins" either. Ryan Reynolds also definitely looking more like Kyle Rayner than Hal Jordan.

But perhaps this all green "veiny" look is only for when he is all MAXIMUM POWER? One can hope. Like maybe it looks different when he's just standing around, but when he's doing some heavy green-power stuff he starts to become all green like that. Not likely, but as I said, one can hope.

Furthermore.... There's a new Buffy?
Agreed.
The real question is what does an entirely CGI suit look like in action. It's one thing to render it for a studio still picture and touch it up for a magazine cover. It flying around on screen, on a living actor, is another question.
I'm curious to see some footage.

Dr. Manhattan in Watchmen was CGI added on later. The actor wore a mocap suit.

Jeritron

07-16-2010, 02:58 AM

Yes, but Dr. Manhattan is pretty stagnant. He is either standing around being melancholy or floating into a room and doing all of his damage without flexing any muscle.
Green Lantern will see a lot more movement and action.

Funky Fly

07-16-2010, 03:01 AM

You could see his dick, tho.

Jeritron

07-16-2010, 03:03 AM

Not in action, unfortunately

Funky Fly

07-16-2010, 03:04 AM

Probably for the best. Since it glows in the dark, we could probably see it through Silk Spectre's body when he'd be taxing it

Jeritron

07-16-2010, 03:08 AM

Tastes like a battery

Jeritron

07-16-2010, 03:09 AM

I don't even think that picture of Green Lantern looks bad, for the record. I just have suspcisions that it might look "a bit shit" when it's in motion. Going as far as to CGI the mask seems a trifle uneccessary

Funky Fly

07-16-2010, 03:52 AM

They're gonna have to spend assloads on it or it'll look like Iceman in X3.

Lock Jaw

07-16-2010, 01:06 PM

Looking at it again, I dunno if I'm just fooling myself, but it looks like the arm has hints of black, and also hints of white around the hand (glove). Everything is just bathed in green light in the pic, so its kinda hard to tell.

DaBrasko

07-22-2010, 12:45 AM

Holyshit that thing is ugly. Might look better in motion, but damn, ive seen better photoshop jobs.

That is FAR too much green.

Yeah completely too much GREEN on the GREEN LANTERN, what were they thinking.... :roll:

Kalyx triaD

07-25-2010, 04:23 PM

Smallville 10 SDCC Notes:

* Moderator Geoff Johns announced that he will again be writing an episode this season, and revealed it would introduce Blue Beetle and Booster Gold. Asked which Blue Beetle it would be, Johns said we'd see Jaime Reyes and Skeets, and added, "And you might even see Ted Kord."

* Darkseid will indeed be in Season 10, though executive producer Brian Peterson said he'd be, "In a little different form than you're used to. Hopefully you'll like it."

* Now that Lois knows Clark is The Blur, Erica Durance joked, "She can use it against him later, I think. That's a true woman. " She continued, "[She has] the opportunity to have a little power over Clark, which is nice for Lois – and yet still protect him and encourage him to be the hero that he is." She smiled and added, "Then she'll get impatient and say, 'What's up?'"

* Will Clark wear the iconic red and blue suit this year? All Peterson would say was, "Tom is in a little different change up from the black suit last year."

* Of course, the question of whether Lex Luthor would return came up from an audience member. They had no definitive answer, but executive producer Kelley Souders said, "Nothing would make me happier than to have Rosey back." She added, "If you want him back, let him know," to the audience – who cheered loudly, showing that yes indeed, they'd like to see Rosenbaum back on the show.

* As to whether Clark will fly finally, Peterson simply said, "Well we all know how the comics turn out, so I think that's probably the answer for that."

* When the producers were asked if they had anything on their "bucket list" they wanted to include in Season 10, Kelly Souders noted, "You'll see some very handpicked images all through the season and it will all culminate in the finale." Peterson said they threw a lot of big images/moments they'd wanted to do for awhile in the show's 200th episode, airing this fall.

* Other introductions will include, "a couple of characters from the Suicide Squad and some of Darkseid's harbingers," according to Souders.

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooo

Krimzon7

07-25-2010, 05:26 PM

Wonder Woman was surprisingly good. It's honestly one of the very, very few takes on Wondy that I really enjoyed.

Crisis on Two Earths was okay, nothing terrible, but hardly the worst thing they've ever done. I did like their take on Flash, and Owlman was pretty badass.

Wonder Woman was a LOT of fun. I enjoyed that movie immensely. Crisis on two Worlds was okay.

Kalyx triaD

07-27-2010, 03:02 AM

mitchables

07-27-2010, 03:56 AM

not a fan of that costume, i can't put my finger on why though. definitely looks more rayner than jordan overall.

Kalyx triaD

07-27-2010, 04:10 AM

The coolest thing about the suit being a template for CGI skin is that they could paint better skin than that... black muscle flesh thing they got going.

Kalyx triaD

07-27-2010, 02:20 PM

http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/8/2010/07/sinestro.jpg

Lock Jaw

07-28-2010, 02:10 PM

Funky Fly

07-28-2010, 05:00 PM

Big Bad Beetle Borgs with better FX.

Kalyx triaD

07-29-2010, 12:15 AM

Mexicans should like this.

Kalyx triaD

07-29-2010, 02:05 AM

Brandon Routh, who was probably the best part of Superman Returns (although Kevin Spacey's gonzo Gene Hackman impression was pretty fun), says he'd love to return to the role in the Nolan brothers' movie. He says he's aware of the groundswell of support for him on the internet, and now he wants to generate a "tsunami of support" for his return.

Let this happen.

D Mac

07-29-2010, 02:07 AM

He was a good Superman IMO.

McLegend

07-29-2010, 02:08 AM

I have done a 180 on this. I could do without Brandon Routh.

He actually wasn't good.

Lock Jaw

07-29-2010, 03:46 AM

I could go either way (just like Brandon Routh).

D Mac

07-29-2010, 07:21 AM

I have done a 180 on this. I could do without Brandon Routh.

He actually wasn't good.

Yeah he was. He reminded me of Christopher Reeve at certain points as Superman.

His Clark Kent tho needs to improve.

McLegend

07-29-2010, 03:50 PM

Being a good Clark is paramount to being Superman, and his Clark not good. If he was good he could have possibly saved Superman Returns.

Also he's going to be almost 10 years older by the time this movie gets released or even made so that has to play factor.

Nowhere Man

07-29-2010, 06:21 PM

I thought Routh did pretty well considering what he was given (i.e. just pretend to be Christopher Reeve for a couple of hours). I wouldn't mind him getting another crack at playing the Big Blue Boy Scout, but only if it matches what the Nolan crew has in mind for the script. Like, if he's supposed to be an experienced hero at this point, then yeah, it'd work. But if it's another origin story (which sounds like it's the case), then they should get a new guy, maybe throw Routh in for a cameo.

rated rjo

07-29-2010, 06:52 PM

They need to just go balls to the wall and not worry about casting someone who looks like Christopher Reeve.

D Mac

07-30-2010, 02:10 AM

The Rock as Superman! :shifty:

alvarado52

07-30-2010, 02:30 AM

My rock is super man

Gray

08-02-2010, 09:49 PM

DC related, looks like they released some information about the new game they're bringing out... DC Universe Online.

I seen bits of gameplay, but then i noticed there was a long trailer tied to it...

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Pretty friggin' awesome looking. :heart:

Kalyx triaD

08-02-2010, 11:43 PM

Visit our VG forum, we got it covered.

D Mac

08-03-2010, 04:16 PM

D Mac

08-04-2010, 05:11 AM

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_LfbRKURMNyM/TDkoYAfliwI/AAAAAAAAAgw/GbXiUviClUo/s400/Lois_and_Clark_large_DVD_box.jpg

All the seasons are now on Netflix instant streaming. I've only ever seen like 2 or 3 episodes.

Kalyx triaD

08-04-2010, 06:09 AM

Kalyx triaD

08-10-2010, 03:26 PM

Batman's New Suit (in the books):

http://comicsmedia.ign.com/comics/image/article/111/1111462/batman-has-a-new-costume-20100810105232743.jpg

Old is new again. This coincides with the upcoming Batman Inc series, which will more than likely launch a new team based on Bruce's new found principles.

Nowhere Man

08-10-2010, 08:03 PM

Hmmm....I gotta say, I don't mind it. Having two bat-logos right there on the front seems a little redundant, but whatever. At least it's better than Wonder Woman's retarded new outfit.

Also, Superman/Batman Apocalypse looks bad-ass. Though it's definitely got a tough act to follow after Under the Red Hood.

Kalyx triaD

08-10-2010, 10:34 PM

To be honest, it doesn't stand a chance against Red Hood. However, the story may have a broader appeal and Kevin Conroy is great oppisite Tim Daly. Summer Glau is fairly genius casting for Kara (and she could have made a great live-action rendition). I feel like Darksied's been miscast but I'll trust Andrea Romano on this.

Did you fucking see the team behind Spectacular Spidey? That's gonna be the greatest cartoon ever. Probably should take this to the Marvel thread but damn.

Nowhere Man

08-11-2010, 11:28 PM

Spectacular Spidey is easily my favorite superhero cartoon of all time (even moreso than Batman: the Animated Series---yeah, I said it), and I will never stop hating Marvel and Disney for canceling the show.

That being said, Young Justice looks fucking sick. I'm glad Weisman was able to jump right onto another ambitious project like that.

Kalyx triaD

08-12-2010, 02:08 PM

Whoops! Meant to ask you about Ultimate Spidey (must have looked crazy talking about Spectacular like it hasn't dropped yet).

Lock Jaw

08-17-2010, 10:26 PM

http://www.collider.com/wp-content/uploads/Green-Lantern-movie-image-Hammond-with-the-corpse-of-Abin-Sur.-Pepto-600x490.jpg

http://host.trivialbeing.org/up/small/green-lantern-abin-sur-1.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_slzL0vHRjtY/TGB5w2HUyUI/AAAAAAAAFek/Zn_dwMdyC-Y/s400/14927L.jpg
Kilowog

http://www.comicbookresources.com/assets/thumbnail.php?file=/assets/images/articles/1281970024.jpg&h=300
Bzzd

http://www.comicbookresources.com/assets/thumbnail.php?file=/assets/images/articles/1282056239.jpg&h=300
Tomar-Re

Miotch

08-18-2010, 02:34 PM

It really does look shit.

BigDaddyCool

08-18-2010, 02:38 PM

What is up with the green latern, I have never really understood it.

Lock Jaw

08-18-2010, 02:51 PM

Pretty simple.

Green Lantern = Space Police

BigDaddyCool

08-18-2010, 02:53 PM

Oh...I never really liked DC. So it all seems weird to me. Then I hear about Amazons attack and all the writers jerking off Batman to be the best of the best.

The Destroyer

08-18-2010, 03:11 PM

Wonder if Bzzd means we'll be seeing Mogo.

Jeritron

08-18-2010, 05:23 PM

Green Lantern has a lot of out there (arguably goofy) shit. It looks like they're going to try to fit a lot of it in this first movie, and go pretty colorful and fantastical with it.
Curious to see how that works. It certainly has potential to turn a lot of people off and get blasted.
I figured they'd go more of the route the first Iron Man did

Fignuts

08-18-2010, 05:27 PM

It really does look shit.

Dunno, Kilo and tomar look pretty good tbh.

Jeritron

08-18-2010, 05:32 PM

I think the stuff looks great, individually, for what it is

Lock Jaw

08-18-2010, 05:42 PM

Nowhere Man

08-18-2010, 06:10 PM

I'm personally excited about it. Mainly because it's got the writer from Spectacular on it, and he's almost always guaranteed gold (even if everything he does gets canceled way before its time due to executive incompetence :mad:)

Whoops! Meant to ask you about Ultimate Spidey (must have looked crazy talking about Spectacular like it hasn't dropped yet).

Eh, I never really liked the Ultimate Spidey comics, and I'm not too crazy about the concept they were talking about, with it being a big 'team-up' series like Brave and the Bold. Plus, I will automatically hold a grudge against it because Spectacular got canceled specifically to make this show. But yeah, the Man of Action crew does a great job, so I'm sure Ultimate will be quality shit.

Kalyx triaD

08-18-2010, 08:53 PM

Young Justice looks great.

Miotch

08-19-2010, 07:08 PM

Dunno, Kilo and tomar look pretty good tbh.

Really? Those stills look like something out of a bad 80's rendition of Green Lantern. :-\

Kalyx triaD

08-19-2010, 09:19 PM

I remember the 80's, these models look good.

dronepool

08-19-2010, 09:24 PM

Really? Those stills look like something out of a bad 80's rendition of Green Lantern. :-\

I have to agree. As much as I hope the movie is good, it looks cheap going by those *early* screen shots. There's just something off with the color, i don't know.

Lock Jaw

08-19-2010, 09:48 PM

Those aren't screen-shots. Those are like... whachamacallit... art designs?

I'm sure the final product won't be all washed out and blurry.

Kalyx triaD

08-24-2010, 10:00 PM

When Laura Vandervoort returns for maybe the last time in the Oct. 8 episode, we'll see her in something like her Supergirl costume. Says exec producer Kelly Souders:

"You really see her as Supergirl. Not the whole outfit, but her wardrobe will have evolved even a little more than Clark's. She's less Kara and way more Supergirl."

And Kara puts on her superheroic new outfit for a photoshoot when she becomes a media darling after a heroic save that reveals to the world that she can fly. And to protect her superheroic identity, she'll start wearing a brown wig and glasses in public when she's not being Supergirl. Maybe Clark will see this and, it'll give him some ideas?

Gray

08-24-2010, 10:11 PM

In the Smallville series they have put glasses on Clarke about 3-4 times, and it has only been for singular scenes, i find it hard to see how they're going to make Clarke into more Superman in this new season, especially as he has been in Metropolis for quite a few years now...

...Same goes for Kara, while people may not recognise her in Metropolis, she stll didn't have any type of disguise during the seasons that she was present. Probably the only two people who might know who she is though would be Lois (Unless they plan to wipe her memory.. again) and Lex, should he return in some form...

LuigiD

08-25-2010, 03:24 AM

I am really liking everything that is coming out from Green Lantern.
The only thing I am not so sure about is the casting. I am just not seeing Van Wilder as Green Lantern yet. In my mind he is just..comical. But we will see I guess..

Kalyx triaD

08-30-2010, 06:23 PM

http://cache-03.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/8/2010/08/supergirlg.jpghttp://cache-04.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/8/2010/08/smallville-lois-on-cross_510.jpg

Lock Jaw

09-02-2010, 02:00 AM

The Sandman, one of the most beloved comic book series of the past 20 years, is in the early stages of development as a television series, as reported Wednesday evening by the Hollywood Reporter.

The article states that DC Comics sister company Warner Bros. TV is talking to several producers about handling the adaptation, with Supernatural creator Eric Kripke at the top of the list. As the Hollywood Reporter notes, CW series Supernatural deals with similar genres as Sandman — mythology, horror and fantasy.

The article also reports that at this point, series author Neil Gaiman is not yet involved in the project, though that may change.

D Mac

09-02-2010, 02:10 AM

http://www.wwe.com/content/media/images/3883682/5411358

dronepool

09-14-2010, 04:24 AM

Superman/Batman: Apocalypse leaked. It's awesome.

Kalyx triaD

09-14-2010, 08:28 AM

o shit

Kalyx triaD

09-16-2010, 02:44 AM

Superman/Batman: Apocalypse leaked. It's awesome.

Merry Xmas (http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjA2NDg3MTcy.html)

Lock Jaw

09-19-2010, 12:18 AM

Superman/Batman: Apocalypse leaked. It's awesome.

Just watched it. Darkseid was pretty Awesome in it.

dronepool

09-19-2010, 12:47 AM

My only issue with it was Darkseids voice.

Lock Jaw

09-19-2010, 12:49 AM

Yeah, I found it strange at first, but then by the end I was loving it.

If any voice I found strange, it was Granny Goodness' man voice.

Shadow

09-19-2010, 04:15 PM

Granny Goodness was voiced by Ed Asner in JLU....what's the problem?

Lock Jaw

09-19-2010, 04:22 PM

I don't remember that then. And its weird because Granny Goodness is supposed to be a female.

Kalyx triaD

09-19-2010, 04:36 PM

Ed Asner is awesome as Goodness.

However, something about the voice work seemed rushed. And they adapted the book near verbatim with one extra scene and a few extra one-liners. Public Enemies took many more liberties and it worked for the most part. Here the scenes seem disjointed and the story-boards were not constructed to make up for it.

Daly and (understandably) Conroy didn't seem as in to it, despite Asner and Glau doing good work. Darkseid was good in hindsight, but I really kept expecting Ironside's menacing arrogance. As you said you do get used to it.

Overall good work, loved the Furies and the Amazon scenes. And Diana's always cooler than you'd think she'd be. The comics rarely get her right.

Lock Jaw

09-19-2010, 04:41 PM

Still haven't checked out the Wonder Woman animated movie.

dronepool

09-19-2010, 07:38 PM

Still haven't checked out the Wonder Woman animated movie.

I'm not really a stand-alone WW fan, but it's a good one. Ares is freaking awesome in it.

Nowhere Man

09-19-2010, 10:06 PM

I have to say, Wonder Woman is much better in animated form than she ever is in the comics. Maybe it's just because the animated series and movies actually showcase how awesome she's supposed to be in a fight. And also because they rarely ever use any of WW's villains, who are all pretty lame with the exception of Ares.

Lock Jaw

09-20-2010, 03:19 PM

And they adapted the book near verbatim with one extra scene and a few extra one-liners. Public Enemies took many more liberties and it worked for the most part. Here the scenes seem disjointed and the story-boards were not constructed to make up for it.

I didn't remember most of what happened in the comics. So...

When Darkseid busted out of Superman's parent's house, I legit marked out.

Kalyx triaD

09-20-2010, 03:52 PM

lol

Kalyx triaD

09-22-2010, 06:29 PM

This is just fangasm stuff:

Congrats, Smallville—you have outdone yourself! For the show’s 10th and final season, producers have scored perhaps their biggest (maybe even the biggest possible) casting coup: They’ve snagged erstwhile Lois Lane Teri Hatcher to play mom to Erica Durance’s Lois Lane!

While Lois' mother is dead, Hatcher will appear as her through some means.

Gray

09-22-2010, 08:02 PM

Kalyx triaD

09-22-2010, 08:10 PM

I must be the only guy who loves that he never flew all this time. It makes those moments where he did epic (the episode where he wasn't himself).

Jeritron

09-22-2010, 09:55 PM

When does the Batman Year One animated movie come out? That's the next one they're doing right?

I loved Under the Red Hood so much I wish they'd do as many as possible.
I think Hush, Dark Knight Returns, Long Halloween, and plenty of other Batman GNs are do-able in the style of Under the Red Hood.

Lock Jaw

09-23-2010, 02:40 AM

They've got two coming out before Batman: Year One.

They've got All-Star Superman and then Green Lantern: Emerald Knights which is apparently an anthology about various GLs.

dronepool

09-23-2010, 03:51 AM

I can't wait for All Star Superman. I love Grant Morrison and I look forward to seeing what they can do with the film.

Jeritron

09-23-2010, 01:51 PM

I meant just Batman, not all of DC, but thank you. Any word on the next Batman project after Year One?

dronepool

09-23-2010, 10:40 PM

Jeritron

09-23-2010, 10:55 PM

So Zack Snyder is on the top of the short list for director on Superman. Other candidates are Duncan Jones (Moon), Matt Reeves (Cloverfield) and Jon Liebsman (Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Beginning)

Moon was incredible so maybe Duncan Jones is the right choice, but for some reason I'm really feeling Zack Snyder on it.
As long as the script and casting is correct he could probably pull it off well.
Not a big fan of 300, but I ate Watchmen up.

Lock Jaw

09-23-2010, 10:59 PM

Cool trailer, bro.

I must laugh at their choice of using music from the Batman Begins score for a Superman movie trailer, though.

Fignuts

09-23-2010, 11:26 PM

Dunno. I'm sure it will be enjoyable, but it seems to me like something would get lost in animating All-Star Superman. Quietly's art suited that so well, but it really only works on the page. Which is kind of a moot point, since the animation takes nothing from quietly's work, as opposed to Public Enemies which had hints of McGuiness' style in there.

Going off the trailer, it just doesn't seem to have the "charm" that really made All-Star Superman special.

Nowhere Man

09-24-2010, 10:27 PM

I'm really looking forward to All-Star Superman, as the comic is honestly my absolute favorite Superman story of all time. However, I do think that it's going to lose some of its retro-Silver Age charm without Frank Quitely's art style. Still, should be miles ahead of any of the other Superman movies they've done (Brainiac Attacks was horrendous, and while the fights in Doomsday were great, the rest of it was pretty meh)

Kalyx triaD

09-29-2010, 12:54 AM

Smallville's Chloe debuts in Action Comics!

http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/2010/09/custom_1285688619587_picture_41_01.png

Kalyx triaD

09-30-2010, 07:15 AM

Natalie Portman may be Warner Brothers' number one choice for the part of Lois Lane in the upcoming Superman reboot, reports Moviehole.

The site reports that Portman was in the running for the part as far back as Superman Returns and that the recently rumored addition of Black Swan director Darren Aronofsky to the alleged studio short list may be a sign that negotiations for the part are back on the table.

Way better than Kate.

Lock Jaw

09-30-2010, 01:56 PM

Seriously can't imagine Aronofsky doing Superman.

Though it is rumored that he is also being offered to direct Preacher, which I have never read, but is probably more "up his alley".

Jeritron

09-30-2010, 06:53 PM

Aronofsky would be great. He'd probably be my first choice of the directors being rumored, or Snyder.
Outside of those 2 I'm really not feeling the other candidates.

Affleck is probably my 3rd choice. His directing efforts have been excellent. I'm not sure how he'd do with this type of movie though.
Perhaps it would be awesome.

The Nolans are making the decision right? I trust they'll make the right choice.

Funky Fly

09-30-2010, 07:23 PM

Seriously can't imagine Aronofsky doing Superman.

Though it is rumored that he is also being offered to direct Preacher, which I have never read, but is probably more "up his alley".

Preacher is a fucked up book. Love it to death tho. Read it. I'd probably call it required reading for non-superhero comics, right up there with Transmetropolitan.

Kalyx triaD

10-01-2010, 08:20 PM

Wonder Woman being developed for TV. Don't have a feeling on this yet.

Jeritron

10-01-2010, 08:42 PM

It will be a bigger success on TV than it would in theaters, I think

Nowhere Man

10-01-2010, 11:35 PM

Y'know, I actually would not mind a Wonder Woman TV show. It depends on a lot of things, obviously--who they cast, how it's written, etc--but WW has some great potential for episodic TV. She's strong enough to do bonafide superheroics without running into the trouble of her being "overpowered" like Superman, she's not confined to a single city like Batman (or really, almost all of DC's heroes), and her villains are weird enough and varied enough that it wouldn't feel like she's just fighting different variations on the same bad-guy theme.

Kalyx triaD

10-01-2010, 11:37 PM

They're almost certainly gonna have that new attire.

mitchables

10-02-2010, 12:03 PM

she's not confined to a single city like Batman (or really, almost all of DC's heroes)

yeah, it's not like marvel sets 90% of its titles in new york or anything.

Jeritron

10-02-2010, 04:15 PM

X-Men being in Upstate New York doesn't count towards that. You're still right, but I'm just throwing that out there.

Mainly characters like Spidey and Daredevil stay located in the Big Apple. I feel like Marvel has a decent amount of heroes headquarted out in LA or on the west coast too.
They seem to change things up over time though, so yea basically everyones been in NY.
I think that's mainly because Stan Lee and his collaborators were all New York kids, and that was what they knew.

A lot of Marvel heroes are also very global, and spend most of their time all over the country/world and not hanging around the area they're based out of. The Avengers, Hulk, X-Men, Fantastic Four don't really have a city.

You obviously know all this. I guess the point I'm trying to make is I don't think the Marvel universe really revolves around NY primarily, even if it sees a lot of action or is a lot of heroes "home." Mostly the heroes who work alone seem to be of NY, but just looking at the Marvel universe that's really not the core of the character list.

Jeritron

10-02-2010, 04:17 PM

Chicago doesn't get enough love

Reavant

10-02-2010, 07:43 PM

is ghost rider the only one that is regularly in chicago?

Reavant

10-02-2010, 07:43 PM

or am i thinking punisher?

Jeritron

10-03-2010, 04:30 AM

I thought Punisher was mostly in NY, but he does get around. He debuted in NY against Spidey, that's for sure. Never really followed Ghost Rider much.
I thought he was all over the place but mainly out in the west. That could be bullshit.

Blade was heavily set in Boston early on.

Fignuts

10-03-2010, 11:58 AM

Yeah, the dark avengers even went to Dinosaur, Colorado recently. Would have thought it was ficticious if I hadn't actually been there at one time.

Reavant

10-03-2010, 03:16 PM

the only comic character i can think of that is centered in chicago is savage dragon from image comics

McLegend

10-03-2010, 09:38 PM

I just watched Superman/Batman: Apocalypse.

Really good and some great fights. I didn't see the thing towards the end coming at all. Andre Braugher did a good job to I thought.

Is there a sequel planned from this storyline like how Superman/Batman: Apocalypse was a sequel for Public enemies? I think I'm getting Under The Red Hood next. The Trailer for looks incredible.

They really should do my idea which is doing The Killing Joke with Kevin Conroy and Mark Hamil. Then that can be Mark Hamil's swan song if he really desires.

parkmania

10-04-2010, 12:06 PM

Updating Kalyx's post with more info:

Warner Bros. Television will produce a TV series featuring Wonder Woman, written and produced by veteran showrunner David E. Kelley, who’s produced such hits as Boston Legal, The Practice, and Ally McBeal, according to Deadline Hollywood.

The new series will be shopped to networks soon, according to the report.

Wonder Woman could be seen as a replacement for the longrunning Smallville, currently in its 10th and final season (see “Smallville Ending”). Human Target is set to return for a second season (see “Human Target Reacquired”).

Warners has not been able to get a Wonder Woman film off the ground to date. Joss Whedon was attached for a time (see “Whedon Off Wonder Woman Film”) and Warners never had a new director (see “Warners Seeking Wonder Woman Helmer”).

In the comics, Wonder Woman has a new costume this year (see “Wonder Woman’s New Duds”)—no word on the look for the TV Wonder Woman.

Kalyx triaD

10-04-2010, 06:25 PM

I figure CW would get at this first. Interesting to see who else would jump on this.

Jeritron

10-04-2010, 11:21 PM

Zack Snyder confirmed for Superman. Nice

Kalyx triaD

10-04-2010, 11:31 PM

Holy shit.

McLegend

10-04-2010, 11:45 PM

I don't know if I like it, but we'll see how it goes.

Either way it doesn't matter if they don't get a good Superman. That should be interesting.

Kalyx triaD

10-05-2010, 12:07 AM

Supe's almost certainly getting the depower treatment (not rumor, just my thoughts).

Word is Zod will be the villain. Please let it be.

McLegend

10-05-2010, 12:12 AM

Superman should not be depowered. That has been rumored I think. Pretty sure I read it somewhere at some point.

Either way depowering Superman is dumb. also if Zod is the Villian there is no need to depower him.

Kalyx triaD

10-05-2010, 12:17 AM

I like a lesser powered Superman. Some of his stunts in the past were pretty wacky even in comic book terms. He seriously doesn't need to be a demi-god, and it has always been this historic hurdle for writers approaching him. In just about every interview, commentary, character insight: it's hard making drama for a guy who's quasi-unstoppable.

And what's the issue? Even a depowered Superman is still one of the most powerful heroes in any universe (DC, Marvel, whatever). His qualities, in my opinion, lie deeper than the 'bullets bounce off' thing.

McLegend

10-05-2010, 12:26 AM

I want my Superman to be a demi-God. Makes him more interesting.

It makes his evitable fail (which will happen somehow in this movie) that much better, because he's not use to losing. How does he handle it losing, and then how will he recover. I love that kind of stuff.

Kalyx triaD

10-05-2010, 12:30 AM

Before that fall he's just swimming through challenges?

McLegend

10-05-2010, 12:41 AM

Crazy stuff through a day. Earthquake in Ecuador, a Tidewave in Hawaii, avalanche in the Himalayas, and then what the hell cleans up an entire oil spill in the gulf cost. Then comes back to the Daily Planet gets shot down by Lois Lane, and misses his deadline for something. Then we find out through the news someone gets shot in Meteropolis that could have easily been stopped if Superman was around. Then something really big happens like Zod or something.

It's a winning formula.

Lock Jaw

10-05-2010, 12:44 AM

Not sure how I feel about Zack Snyder. He makes movies that everybody is all "OMG THIS IS GREAT" (300, Watchmen) but then I watch them and they are... I dunno... well made, but forgettable.

Also, Superman does not need to be depowered. Unless you are talking about stuff like flying around the planet and turning back time, and stuff like Super-Hypnotism and Super-Ventriloquism... but he hasn't had those in the comics since the 80s! He should have pretty much the same deal as in the current comic books.

Jeritron

10-05-2010, 12:47 AM

I think they just need to find the right angle. No need to depower him. They also need to exploit viable foes more.

The movies have never really done justice to any villains other than Lex Luthor. It's always just Luthor and his latest real estate scheme.
I think in addition to a good story, people want to see an exciting action movie. Superman can't slug it out with Luthor unless they do the kryptonite suit which they never have.
I think Zod or Doomsday allows people to see Supes tear it up the way they've seen other big screen superheroes.

I don't think it would be a bad idea to show Superman earn his mantle. Perhaps he shouldn't be so idolized right off the bad. Perhaps he should be feared and misunderstood, and face some human resistance before becoming the savior figure.

I don't want to see him de-powered. Through writing you can de-power him without actually de-powering him. You don't have to show off all of his powers or depict them to such extremes, but you also don't have to make a point of taking them away.

I'm really happy they chose Zack Snyder though. From the sound of it he has a good approach to the character:

He's a tricky one nowadays, isn't he? He's the king daddy of all comic-book heroes, but I'm just not sure how you sell that kind of earnestness to a sophisticated audience anymore."

I know he can direct this type of movie properly. He just has to pull it off, and a great script and story is going to be the key.
Visually I think he'll make Superman stand out. I look forward to seeing a different looking movie from the Donner and Singer ones.

McLegend

10-05-2010, 12:50 AM

Hey even though spinning the World backwards, and turning back time makes no sense. Dramatically it worked really well. I only care if something works, and not if it makes sense.

Jeritron

10-05-2010, 12:51 AM

Not sure how I feel about Zack Snyder. He makes movies that everybody is all "OMG THIS IS GREAT" (300, Watchmen) but then I watch them and they are... I dunno... well made, but forgettable.

I agree about 300. I enjoyed it when I saw it but have never felt any need to see it again. It was okay but I don't understand the love.

Watchmen, on the other hand, I loved. That's what gives me confidence that he's capable of pulling off a brilliant Superman movie, but we'll see.

The only thing I'm a bit iffy about is how he's becoming branded as a comic book director. That shouldn't really matter really since it's his career choice, but as a viewer I hope that doesn't cause him to lose sight of what makes a good film rather than a good comic book.

Kalyx triaD

10-05-2010, 12:54 AM

Some of my favorite Superman stories and moments came from the DCAU and the Finchster 'toons, which both had him fist fighting with robots. It's a Superman I can hang on, and it makes him 'stronger'.

That's me, though.

McLegend

10-05-2010, 12:57 AM

I have no problem with Superman fighting Robots.

I do also though really want to see Superman fight a giant monster. That's probably not going to happen though.

I'm just worried that this Superman is going to be dark. If the movie has a dark tone to it that's fine, but I don't want Superman himself to be dark. That I'm not a fan of it/

Kalyx triaD

10-05-2010, 12:59 AM

Metallo kills two birds with one stone.

McLegend

10-05-2010, 01:00 AM

I'm taking like Godzilla.

I could live with Metallo for either though.

Jeritron

10-05-2010, 01:06 AM

I hope he's read Superman: For All Seasons

McLegend

10-05-2010, 01:13 AM

I would think they have read pretty much all Superman stories. At the very least the popular ones.

Just look at Batman Begins and The Dark Knight.

Lock Jaw

10-05-2010, 01:15 AM

I don't think it would be a bad idea to show Superman earn his mantle. Perhaps he shouldn't be so idolized right off the bad. Perhaps he should be feared and misunderstood, and face some human resistance before becoming the savior figure.

Superman: Birthright.

Kalyx triaD

10-05-2010, 01:19 AM

Pretty sure he meant in live action.

Jeritron

10-05-2010, 01:22 AM

I would think they have read pretty much all Superman stories. At the very least the popular ones.

Just look at Batman Begins and The Dark Knight.

Well yea, David Goyer and Jonathan Nolan will have no doubt. I just hope the director goes for that type of Superman, is what I'ms aying.

Lock Jaw

10-05-2010, 01:23 AM

Pretty sure I knew that and was just giving an example of a comic book story wherein that happened.

Kalyx triaD

10-05-2010, 01:24 AM

Pretty sure I'll kick your ass if you keep messin with me. :foc:

Jeritron

10-05-2010, 01:25 AM

I wonder what ever happened to Mark Millar's pitch

McLegend

10-05-2010, 01:27 AM

Well yea, David Goyer and Jonathan Nolan will have no doubt. I just hope the director goes for that type of Superman, is what I'ms aying.

Well given that he has read Watchmen. It's not unreasonable to assume he has read a few Superman stories.

Fignuts

10-05-2010, 03:50 AM

All-star superman live action. Fuck the animation.

parkmania

10-05-2010, 02:13 PM

Sony Online Entertainment has announced that the DC Universe Online Role-Playing Game, which was expected to launch in November, has been delayed until early 2011. The DC MMORPG, which has been championed by Jim Lee, is already a late entry into a crowded field.

Anyone who pre-orders the DC MMO game after November 15th will get free beta access one week before launch and will be able to participate in the beta-ending “Battle of the Legends” event. All beta participants will receive a special emblem for their character once the game is underway.

Marvel began developing a MMORPG in 2005 only to abandon the effort in 2008 (see “Marvel MMORPG Is History”, before restarting the project with a different developer last year (see “Marvel Tries MMO Again”).

McLegend

10-07-2010, 05:56 PM

You know it would have been nice if one of you guys told me All Star Superman was two volumes. Sure it says Volume 1 on the cover, but how the fuck was I suppose to know? Now I have to go out again and get volume 2. Thanks guys

I blame Lock Jaw for this.

Lock Jaw

10-07-2010, 06:16 PM

I'm not the one who recommended it.

McLegend

10-07-2010, 06:18 PM

Semantics.

Kalyx triaD

10-08-2010, 12:18 AM

http://static.tvguide.com/MediaBin/Content/101004/News/Todays_News_Our_Take/4_thurs/101007mag-gl-teaser-poster1.jpg

Vastardikai

10-08-2010, 09:48 PM

http://static.tvguide.com/MediaBin/Content/101004/News/Todays_News_Our_Take/4_thurs/101007mag-gl-teaser-poster1.jpg

Dude... I just filled the cup!

Jeritron

10-09-2010, 06:09 AM

First Green Lantern trailer is set to come out mid-November. Should be interesting to see how that looks in action. Hopefully it shows a little something.

Lots of comic book movies next summer huh? Cap Am, Thor and Green Lantern but I just saw that X-Men First Class got bumped up a year.

2012 will probably still be the biggest year ever for comic movies. Batman 3, Avengers, Spiderman and Superman reboots? Plus Deadpool and some other things probably.
I think 2012 will be the "grand finale" of the comic book movie era. Not that they won't still be made and successful for a long time afterwards, but it might be the peak of the whole phenomenon.

mitchables

10-09-2010, 10:58 PM

probably for superhero comic books. wouldn't surprise me if they start tapping the well of less extraordinarily-set books like dmz or 100 bullets or even transmetropolitan. although all three of those would arguably be good mini-series rather than films.

Jeritron

10-09-2010, 11:24 PM

They've already started doing that

mitchables

10-09-2010, 11:40 PM

yeah not with any real commitment or gusto though. a history of violence and road to perdition are the two that are jumping out at me but even they weren't heavily marketed as having been based on comic books.

Lock Jaw

10-10-2010, 12:02 AM

Walking Dead has a tv series starting in a few weeks.

The Sandman was recently reported to be picked up to be turned into a TV series. Fables has been said that a TV series is being made, but news since then has been slim.

mitchables

10-10-2010, 12:55 AM

yeah you'll notice that i've posted multiple times in the walking dead's thread, been one of my favourite books for ages.

sandman is still in mega-early developmental stages. gaiman isn't even attached (yet). and the fact that news on fables has been slim kind of reinforces the point.

regardless, it's not like they're bending over backwards to develop the non-superhero comics market for tv. preacher has been in various incarnations of development hell for years. in the time that book has been 'maybe/maybe not'-ing as far as tv development is concerned, we've had 10 years of smallville, a failed aquaman pilot, short-lived live action series of birds of prey, justice league and the flash, and early talks and then justified discarding of the graysons. not to mention the slew of animated works on both dc and marvel's parts. can't believe someone couldn't write a decent script for a preacher animated series or something.

Lock Jaw

10-10-2010, 01:02 AM

Mayhaps if Walking Dead is really successful it will start a "boom" or comic book based tv-shows.

Y- The Last Man would make a pretty decent show maybe.

Jeritron

10-10-2010, 02:08 AM

A History of Violence and Road To Perdition were two of the ones I was thinking of. Also American Splendor, Ghost World, some others I probably can't think of right now.
The most recent would be Red.
I suppose Scott Pilgrim, 30 Days of Night, and even 300 aren't really great example of not being "extraordinarily-set" since they have their supernatural elements, but they're also not really superhero comics either.

I'm sure others are in development, or that I've completely overlooked.
I really wish they'd make Maus. It would probably be computer animated a la Pixar, but it might also be interesting to see it made in the style of Fantastic Mr. Fox

Jeritron

10-10-2010, 02:09 AM

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/b8/Contractwithgod.png/388px-Contractwithgod.png (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b8/Contractwithgod.png)

Just looked to see if there were any plans to make this into a film. They just recently announced there are

Jeritron

10-10-2010, 02:13 AM

I completely forgot about The Adventures of TinTin movies. They should be incredible given who's involved

Funky Fly

10-10-2010, 06:49 AM

Preacher will never get made into a movie or series. Not unless it's made outside of the US. There would be riots over that shit.

parkmania

10-11-2010, 12:15 AM

I Am Legend was a graphic novel first, IIRC.

Jeritron

10-11-2010, 01:20 AM

No it was just a regular novel by Richard Matheson. Great book. I wish any of the movies were as good

Kalyx triaD

10-12-2010, 02:54 AM

Lois as Isis:

http://static.tvguide.com/MediaBin/Content/101011/News/Todays_News_Our_Take/1_mon/101011mag-Smallville1.jpg

One trick Smallville likes to do is have characters possessed by other characters in the DCU to put them on the show with essentially zero production expense. It continues with Lois being possessed by Isis, who plans to do bad things to our heroes.

She may or may not be a direct adaption of 52's Isis, who was a big part of Black Adam's issues after Infinite Crisis.

Lock Jaw

10-13-2010, 02:20 AM

Probably be a closer adaptation to the original.

Kalyx triaD

10-13-2010, 12:41 PM

Bruce Timm on Green Lantern's Animated Series:

98% of the show is set in space, so we do have lots of opportunities to deal with other Green Lanterns. Kilowog is in practically every episode, Salaak shows up, but there's not so many in the early episodes. You won't see DC heroes like Batman and Robin showing up, at least not anytime soon [...] We will see a little bit of Earth.

The show takes place on the edge of Guardian space and the show starts off with Green Lantern getting killed off on this edge. So Hal borrows a prototypical, faster-than-light ship and he and Kilowog go to investigate. They quickly discover that there are the previously unknown Red Lanterns systematically killing off the Green Lanterns. [!!!]

In the first 13 episodes, Hal and his crew are stuck out on the edge of space. Hal's not a rookie, but he's not a veteran. We actually keep that pretty loose. We didn't want to go back and do the rookie story again because we did that in First Flight and that's what the movie's going to be about. That's really well-traveled ground.

We tried to make him on Captain Kirk's level of experience. It won't follow the continuity of the movie, but we draw from the same sources [...] We'll definitely be getting to Sinestro eventually; we aren't sure when we can do that.

Unlike other superheroes, the Green Lantern has to report to somebody. He has to report to these little blue men who are all kind of cranky. He likes upsetting the apple cart in front of them sometimes. He really has a love-hate relationship with them. Hal becomes stranded in the first arc, but he is able to keep in contact with The Guardians.

http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/2010/10/custom_1286910567958_gl-ato.jpg
Timm style in 3D? YES

Young Justice Details:

Greg Weisman: We're adapting Teen Titans, we're adapting Young Justice, we're adapting the whole DC Universe. We're set on Earth 16 in the DC multiverse and we're sort of making ours a young universe. Superman's only been around 10 years, the Justice League's only been around three or four years. Robin's been around four years. The others have been doing it for even less time. Speedy for three, Kid Flash for two, Miss Martian hasn't done it at all yet when our series starts. So we're keeping it young.

Brandon Vietti: It's a show about teenagers who happen to be superheroes [...] They're a cover ops unit, and that will have repercussions in their lives, with their mentors, their parents, all kinds of things [...] The villains we will see are Mr. Freeze, Icicle Junior, Killer Frost, Captain Cold, and Black Manta; that's the five that we're revealing, obviously there's a lot more.

GW: Last time I checked, we had over 150 DC heroes and villains in the show. We have a really small handful of original characters in the show. From the Justice League, the big three are Batman, who assigns them their missions; Red Tornado, who is their den mother; and Black Canary is in charge of their training. The other characters include their individual mentors (like Superman and Martian Manhunter), other heroes like Guardian and Speedy, and the Justice League, whose line-up includes Wonder Woman, Captain Atom, Captain Marvel, Zatara, Hawkwoman, and others. We have a 16-member Justice League.

Lock Jaw

10-13-2010, 02:37 PM

Team Ice People Plus Black Manta

Funky Fly

10-13-2010, 04:54 PM

Yeah, noticed that. What are they gone sail glaciers into shipyards?

Jeritron

10-14-2010, 08:29 AM

Kalyx triaD

10-14-2010, 08:33 AM

Timm and his team seem to be the only producers who say they're fans and choose projects and make decisions that fans in their position would make.

Jeritron

10-14-2010, 08:37 AM

Jim Gordon is my favorite Batman character

Jeritron

10-14-2010, 08:43 AM

And Batman is my favorite comic world/mythology. Yet when I'm asked my favorite comic characters I just say Batman over Jim Gordon.
Probably because I just tend to list the main character and that also includes all of the supporting characters and villains.
Hmm

thedamndest

10-16-2010, 02:47 PM

Just watched Batman/Superman Apocalypse. Batman is probably my favorite hero, but I'm not sure how I feel about him teaming with Superman. I mean he has to fight the same guys Superman does but without any powers and does just fine. It makes it hard to believe he can deal with dudes from Apocalypse and then struggle with any normal criminal in Gotham. It's not really a big deal as they're all very well done, but it just seems like Batman is either super powered or de-powered depending on the circumstances.

Lock Jaw

10-16-2010, 03:23 PM

Batman is like a God when he is teaming with another hero, or around the JLA.

When he is on his own in Gotham fighting crime, he is just a highly skilled normal man.

Nowhere Man

10-16-2010, 11:38 PM

As much as I love the Batman mythos, it really doesn't fit in with the rest of the DC Universe at all. I mean, how exactly does the Justice League sleep at night knowing that there's a city that's literally less than a minute's travel away (for most of them) constantly under siege by psychotic mass murderers and crooked cops and ruthless mob bosses? And while it's true that Superman, Wonder Woman, Flash, Green Lantern, et al, all have their own problems to deal with in their own cities, it's not like they couldn't take shifts. Batman may be a total control freak and more often than not a massive dickhead to his fellow superheroes, but he'd be an idiot for refusing the kind of super-powered help the JLA could bring.

That's why the more I think about it, the more I kind of wish Gotham would just be retconned out of the regular DC Universe and placed under the Vertigo label or something. Batman's a great hero, but he really only works if he's the only hero in town.

Corporate CockSnogger

10-17-2010, 08:09 AM

Jeritron

10-26-2010, 07:16 PM

I'm suprised nobody has posted yet about Superman's hipster Twilight makeover.

Boondock Saint

10-26-2010, 07:58 PM

I think Superman: Earth One is outside of continuity so it's not too bad I guess. Unless they've revamped him in DC proper...

Jeritron

10-26-2010, 08:30 PM

I guess re-designing Supes in "alternate universes" is okay, but I figured redisigning Superman was the type of thing they'd learn about. All it accomplishes is getting a blurb on the evening news and yahoo, and people expressing their distaste for it. Then a decade later a few people say "remember when they tried to revamp Superman?"
I would suspect this will be no different.

Jeritron

10-26-2010, 08:34 PM

This was the extent of change I ever dug in Superman:
http://donttellmetheending.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/supermanwb.jpg

Miotch

10-26-2010, 08:35 PM

fucking hippy

Jeritron

10-26-2010, 08:35 PM

http://blog.newsarama.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/earthonesuperman.jpg

Does he sparkle when he's near kryptonite?

Miotch

10-26-2010, 08:46 PM

Dunno. Bet he fucks dudes though. Probably replaced Lois with a guy named Lou Lane.

Boondock Saint

10-26-2010, 08:56 PM

ELECTRIC BLUE

parkmania

10-26-2010, 09:33 PM

ELECTRIC BLUE

You mean this shite?

http://www.supermanhomepage.com/multimedia/Wallpaper-Images2/mbailey-bluered.jpg

Jeritron

10-26-2010, 09:33 PM

They should have a Computer Blue Superman. That would be incredible

Kalyx triaD

10-26-2010, 11:42 PM

Clark in a hoody doesn't seem like Twilight in even a little way. C'mon.

Jeritron

10-26-2010, 11:55 PM

Don't act like it's just Superman in a hoodie. It's been decided upon by DC (and confirmed by them) that it's intended to tap into the Twilight vibe. It's not just the hoody. He's intended to be paler, more brooding, and sport different styles. Not to mention the hairstyle and facial expressions.

http://omg.yahoo.com/blogs/crush/superman-gets-a-hipster-makeover/488

Jeritron

10-26-2010, 11:58 PM

It's a good thing DC comics has you to clean up any potential bad-mouthing of a single thing they do

Kalyx triaD

10-27-2010, 12:00 AM

Not acting like shit. And none of that 'article' shows that DC's official stance is to get a Twilight vibe. At all. It's just some writer being cute.

C'mon.

Kalyx triaD

10-27-2010, 12:00 AM

It's a good thing DC comics has you to clean up any potential bad-mouthing of a single thing they do

I never even watched Twilight. Have nothing to say about it.

Jeritron

10-27-2010, 12:03 AM

You act like it's just Superman in a hoodie though. It's DC trying to do a new take on the character that is overhauled to tap into a current youth trend. Twilight is just an example that comes to mind, but to act like it isn't specifically being tailored to capture that overall market on purpose is ridiculous.

Jeritron

10-27-2010, 12:05 AM

Kalyx triaD

10-27-2010, 12:08 AM

You act like it's just Superman in a hoodie though.

Where'd you get that idea? How did you get this:

...To act like it isn't specifically being tailored to capture that overall market on purpose is ridiculous.

From this:

Clark in a hoody doesn't seem like Twilight in even a little way...

Do you hate Twilight that much? Tell me because you seem to be spoiling for a fight when I've said nothing tremendous.

Jeritron

10-27-2010, 12:09 AM

I also don't blame them for doing so. Just because I don't dig Twilight doesn't mean people don't. It's a risk that makes a lot of sense. But I can't see how you can see this all and not recognize what it is.

Kalyx triaD

10-27-2010, 12:10 AM

"We wanted to tell a story that's hip, sexy, and moody," - DC Comics co-publisher Dan DiDio

Hmm, I wonder what he means by that...It couldn't possibly be because that style is what is considered hip, sexy, and moody, and DC wants to make money and capture new fans by tapping into it.

Seriously why are you telling me this? Because I guarantee you don't know how I feel about Earth One Superman based on what I'm seeing you write here. And no I didn't give the slightest clue.

Jeritron

10-27-2010, 12:11 AM

Clark in a hoody doesn't seem like Twilight in even a little way. C'mon.

What was the point of this post then?

Jeritron

10-27-2010, 12:12 AM

I included the full thing instead of deleting the "c'mon"

Kalyx triaD

10-27-2010, 12:12 AM

Clark Kent wearing a hoody doesn't seem like Twilight. I don't know how else to put that.

Kalyx triaD

10-27-2010, 12:14 AM

And the "c'mon" was a reaction to the (still) silly comparison, whether you say it or some writer for Yahoo says it. Other than that I don't know why you think I'm avoiding the obvious tones of the reboot. You're going off the deep here.

Jeritron

10-27-2010, 12:15 AM

What about the rest? Don't patronize me here. The posts are all up there to read.

Kalyx triaD

10-27-2010, 12:16 AM

And I'm slightly miffed at the comment about me being a mouthpiece for DC. I don't even consider it an insult, but the intention was unwarranted.

Kalyx triaD

10-27-2010, 12:18 AM

What about the rest? Don't patronize me here. The posts are all up there to read.

Rest of what? Every post I made since were a reaction to your reaction. And yeah, they're all up there to see.

Jeritron

10-27-2010, 12:18 AM

See there's the rub. You seem to disagree on what the intentions of this overhaul are. You disregard the article, and that's fine. But you also seem to need a press release from DC to see this for what it really is.

They're trying to make it hip and sexy, and the change is a lot more than just a hoodie. From your first post you seem to be in disagreement that it's the least bit of a Twilight-generation makeover, and I think that's bullshit.
It doesn't have to literally be "Twilight." He's not a vampire, at least not yet. But "Twilight" is a certain trend or style that is dominant in pop culture and "in." They're quite clearly trying to capture that vibe. I guess this can't be proven without an official "stance" from DC, like you requested, but the publisher's statement and the writing on the wall make it quite obvious what is going on.

How is it a silly comparion? Like I said, you tried to paint it as though it's just nomral Superman in a hoodie. C'mon yourself.

Kalyx triaD

10-27-2010, 12:21 AM

I don't see moody, sexy youth oriented stories as a 'Twilight generation' thing, though. That shit's as old as Swan's Crossing.

Jeritron

10-27-2010, 12:23 AM

Sorry to have miffed you, but I was miffed from you writing off the comparison as silly (just a hoodie) from the get-go

Kalyx triaD

10-27-2010, 12:23 AM

AND I DIDN'T PAINT SHIT. Please stop that. You're reading context and tone that isn't there.

Kalyx triaD

10-27-2010, 12:23 AM

Was I supposed to mention everything about the damn reboot? lol You seem to be fixated on my singular mention of the now infamous hoody.

Jeritron

10-27-2010, 12:24 AM

I don't see moody, sexy youth oriented stories as a 'Twilight generation' thing, though. That shit's as old as Swan's Crossing.

But Twilight is "in." They're trying to tap into that directly. You see what I'm saying here? That's where all this shit is stemming from in pop-culture. Our culture loves to connect and copy from an original source of a trend.
I think it's absolutely ridiculous to not see this as Twilight-era Superman, but whatever.

DaveBrawl

10-27-2010, 12:25 AM

He's creeping very close to Batman here with this brooding, pale, potential athlete thing he's got going on. Might be time for Bruce to curbstomp him in yet another universe. :shifty:

DaveBrawl

10-27-2010, 12:26 AM

You add the vampire thing and you have a legitimate bat man.

Jeritron

10-27-2010, 12:28 AM

You're right, Superman wearing a hoodie alone doesn't make him a Twilight-esque makeover, but in conjunction with a Blue Steel facial expression, "smoldering eyes", paler skin, a brooding personality and "hipster style", I would say it does.
That's why I'm harping on the hoodie comment. Because you seemed to try to write off the comparisons as simply stemming from that, rather than just commenting on that one component. I have a hard time believing that's not what you meant, but okay.

Jeritron

10-27-2010, 12:31 AM

Before I saw a word of an article, I saw the picture and the headline "Superman gets an edgy makeover" and thought the exact same thing. I didn't need someone to suggest it was in reaction to Twilight shit to make the connection. And I think that's the point of the entire makeover.

And I don't want it to seem like I'm on a crusade against Twilight because I'm really not. I fully understand why they'd attempt this. I'm just conscious to the trend in pop culture and I definitely recognize when it's being capitalized on.

Kalyx triaD

10-27-2010, 12:31 AM

Cause I'd totally lie about this sort of thing. There's so much on the line for me.

Jeritron

10-27-2010, 12:34 AM

I'm not saying you're lying. It just seems like you're often trying to disarm any and all criticism in these threads. Even if it means ignoring certain things blatantly. I know you're going to say you don't and that I'm just assuming you were writing off my comparison as silly and one-dimensional, but whatever.
I'm not trying to miff you. You're one of my favorite posters here in movies/tv/books. It's just a peeve.

Kalyx triaD

10-27-2010, 12:53 AM

Funny, I was told to calm down about this sort of thing in the past. I'd slam some approach DC or Marvel had and people would tell me to lighten up (these occurrences are not exclusive to this thread). And I'm not saying you were in on that, of course.

Lately I've been super-open about what these companies do with their IPs. There's a few reasons that aren't worth getting into for that, but mostly I've gotten new perspectives on things. The flip side is, yes, I find myself on the production's side more often as a result.

Eh, we'll live.

Jeritron

10-27-2010, 01:00 AM

Like I said, just an observation/peeve. Not a real problem with you as I'd rather have something to disagree on in these threads than nothing to talk about at all.
It wasn't meant to be as much of a dick comment as it probably actually ended up being. I'm just a dick though.

Kalyx triaD

10-27-2010, 01:25 AM

You're mean and hostile.

Lock Jaw

10-27-2010, 02:28 AM

I, for one, am actually looking forward to the Superman: Earth One graphic novel, and will probably purchase it soon.

Even though JMS' stuff on the in-continuity Superman has been kinda iffy so far.

stultiloquy

10-27-2010, 02:39 AM

You mean this shite?

http://www.supermanhomepage.com/multimedia/Wallpaper-Images2/mbailey-bluered.jpg

Oh God...don't remind me....and holy crap is that some awful artwork - why are his proportions so squat and chunky?

Nowhere Man

10-27-2010, 04:05 AM

I've made it a point to avoid everything J Michael Straczynski does ever since Sins Past, and since Superman: Earth One is a separate continuity, I can thankfully remain completely indifferent to hoodie Supes.

[EDIT: I've seen a little bit more of Superman: Earth One and am relieved to say that Superman's costume is pretty much still the regular costume, and that the hoodie and whatnot is just part of his Clark Kent outfit to cover it up. That, I can live with.]

Lock Jaw

10-29-2010, 06:54 PM

Just read Superman: Earth One.

As I expected, there were parts that I was kinda "meh" on, and parts I loved. As far as "modern" Superman origins go, I liked it better than Superman: Secret Origin, but not better than Superman: Birthright.

Definitely made with "sequels" in mind.

Nowhere Man

10-29-2010, 11:25 PM

Yeah, I know that they're planning on keeping the Earth One thing going, releasing a new volume of it every year. I'll reserve actual judgment until I read it, but considering my usual disdain for JMS, that may be a while.

Reavant

11-06-2010, 06:46 PM

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/40/1489992-09_copy_super.png
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/40/1489976-03_middle.png
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/40/1489913-01_copy_super.png

Rammsteinmad

11-07-2010, 07:12 PM

Haven't been in this thread for a while, but heard about that 'new-look Superman'... come on seriously, it's still the same boring guy who never dies and is invincible etc, and it's only a new look in the way that in six months time they'll revert back to canon and this will be forgotten about.

Kalyx triaD

11-07-2010, 07:21 PM

What new look?

Rammsteinmad

11-07-2010, 07:33 PM

I thought that emo 'Clark Kent with a hoodie' thing was a new look. I'm a bit behind on my DC comics so obviously I'm wrong. :p

Kalyx triaD

11-07-2010, 07:38 PM

To your credit, a slight shitstorm was caused over that cover. People were hasty, even though a design pin-up for the classic costume from the same series was posted before.

Rammsteinmad

11-07-2010, 07:40 PM

So what's the deal then? No new look at all? Superman just decided to wear a jumper that screamed teenage angst?

Kalyx triaD

11-07-2010, 07:41 PM

Yes.

Rammsteinmad

11-07-2010, 07:43 PM

Lol DC.

Jeritron

11-08-2010, 12:38 AM

Don't miss the whole truth. DC decided to have Superman decide to wear a jumper and scream teenage angst.
What their motives are in that decision is under debate by Kalyx and myself, but I think it's quite obvious.

Lock Jaw

11-08-2010, 01:37 AM

Also, for the record, he does wear the costume.... and it is not in continuity. It is an alternate world. "Earth One".

Regular Superman is still around.

Jeritron

11-08-2010, 02:51 AM

Yea, I know that. Sort of like an Ultimates thing I guess. I don't even think it's that big a deal, don't get me wrong. I also have seen the art for when he's actually in Superman mode and it's just fine.

Reavant

11-08-2010, 10:33 AM

i just think its funny to see the joker talk about boners

Rammsteinmad

11-08-2010, 10:41 AM

There was a thread years ago where someone posted funny pictures from comics. Only one I can remember is Captain America, or the Hulk, or someone punching someone else, and the sound effect was 'WANK'. :lol:

Lock Jaw

11-08-2010, 02:21 PM

http://wileywiggins.blogspot.com/capwank2.png

McLegend

11-11-2010, 03:09 PM

I really liked Superman for All Seasons. All Star Superman was really good, but I could ha ve done without parts of it. Superman dying from Cancer is a great idea though.

Fignuts

11-13-2010, 04:31 AM

So I bought every trade from JLA (the second volume of justice league) and I'm pretty split on it. Pretty much all the early stories are pretty meh, with Tower of Babel being the exception. Early Kyle Rayner is pretty fucking awful, and I'm amazed he lasted long enough to become a likeable character. Don't get me started on how dumb Zauriel is. It does kick up and get pretty good at about the halfway point,(Coincidentaly, post-90's. Imagine that.) but it never really gets great. Was surprised, as I'm a big fan of Grant Morrison, but his early work is just really generic, and doesn't take any of the bold moves that he's known for.

Then I got The Tornado's Path, which is the first trade in the third, and current volume of the Justice League. Just read it and holy shit, it's miles above any of the JLA trades. It's actually better than a lot of the big crossovers I've read. Planning on getting every trade now, like I did for JSA.

On a side note, I have to mention one gripe I have with the industry today, and that is this trend of releasing generic covers that just have a pin up shot of the main character or team standing there looking impressive.. Those are fine once and a while but for years now, most issues do this. I miss the days when the cover told you what was happening inside.

That was the best part about 52. Every single cover was awesome and involved the plot of the story within. I actually just ordered a trade that is nothing but the covers from 52. Just amazing work, right there.

Fignuts

11-13-2010, 04:35 AM

Also, I always thought Vixen was lame, but not anymore. Had he shining moment in The Tornado's path. Always hated the character, but I still marked out like a bitch when it happened. The lead in to it was that good. The art also made her look crazy badass as well.

D Mac

11-13-2010, 07:06 AM

KIRA

11-13-2010, 11:07 AM

Fignuts

11-13-2010, 01:40 PM

Also, Ed Benes is an amazing artist.

Funky Fly

11-13-2010, 04:33 PM

Little off topic but this has been bugging me and I thought I might find some good answers here so here goes,why are villians portrayed as being so afraid of Batman (baring maybe the joker who is just gay for him in his own mass murdering psychotic way) I mean granted hes intimidating and its been said that even people who aren't afraid of Superman fear Batman (which is lampshaded twice in the JL/JLU animated shows) At some point they do have realize hes a mortal man an extraordinary mortal but a mortal nonetheless and yet they hand wave the threats of a man who could tear them apart like wet paper.

Comments ? thoughts?

Probably because he's a mortal man who was trained by all the best asskickers on earth, who has all the best gadgets to assist in asskickery, who has nothing better to do with his time than indulge in asskickery and has no qualms about unleashing said asskickery on anyone who fucks with his town?

D Mac

11-13-2010, 05:00 PM

Maybe because they don't know that he's a mortal man?

Fignuts

11-14-2010, 12:32 AM

Well I would say by now all his regular villains know he's a mortal man, and are simply scared of how damn good he is. (He is the god damned Batman afterall.) Common street thugs still speculate though.

Lock Jaw

11-14-2010, 03:18 AM