DC Universe Thread

[Kalyx triaD]

It's very perplexing how they're pretending they could do a Black Adam movie aa if he's completely unrelated to Shazam.

[Lock Jaw]

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[Destor]

BEEBO

[Lock Jaw]

Show ain't gonna be the same without Ray

[Destor]

...Routh is leaving?? Im gutted

[Lock Jaw]

Sorry, did not mean for you to find out this way

[Destor]

Show is dead without him

[Lock Jaw]

Yeah, wouldn't be surprised if this is the last season..... but then again, I have said that every season

[mitchables]

legends has defied the odds in every way since its second season. scrappiest bunch of underdogs on tv, and the best show in the arrowverse by a mile. my soul is warmed by the fact they have lasted anywhere near as long as they have

definitely sad at routh's departure though, he's one of an ever-diminishing number of OG legends, firstly, and he is also the golden heart of the show in more ways than one

[slik]

The more I read about James Tynion's upcoming run on Batman the more I am looking forward to it.




The writer describes Batman going forward as an "action horror superhero comic book," where the villains will be frightening - as will Batman.


"The villains of Gotham fear him, and he is going to take that fear and wield it like a weapon to get his city back under control," writes Tynion. "Batman doesn’t just show up in broad daylight to scare his villains, he uses tricks and shadows, and voice modulation to make it seem like he can be anywhere and everywhere at once."


"To the bad guys, Batman is like Michael Myers," Tynion writes, referring to the Halloween villain. "He keeps getting up when it shouldn’t be possible to get up anymore. How can you win against him? You’d have to be crazy to try."


"He has just faced tremendous failure in the last year of story," Tynion wrote, referring to the current "City of Bane" arc. "He lost his City, and lost his way… But now that he’s back, he has an almost manic intensity. He is going to fix things. He’s going to make it so nobody like Bane can ever do this to the city again.


"With Selina on his arm, the 'Playboy' Bruce is dead," Tynion continues. "Every waking minute is dedicated to the rebuild of Gotham City, both as Bruce Wayne and as Batman. He is in control of every room he enters, and people are a little frightened of him.


https://www.newsarama.com/47978-tynion-s-batman-to-fix-gotham-city.html

Plus Tony Daniel is one of my favorite Bat artists so I am really glad he is back on the main Bat book.


https://i.postimg.cc/nVRCJvxz/a-HR0c-Dov-L3d3dy5u-ZXdz-YXJhb-WEu-Y29t-L2lt-YWdlcy9p-Lz-Aw-MC8y-Nz-Av-Nz-Uw-L29y.jpg

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[Blonde Moment]

I almost wish they would have gone with the old man Batman under the agreement that the old man takes a more moderate approach

[Lock Jaw]

Crisis on Infinite Earths Part One:

- Chuckled at Burt Ward's cameo appearance

- Was hoping that Jonathan would be "aged up" somehow for the upcoming Superman & Lois show, and it would be more based on Peter Tomasi's excellent Superman DC Rebirth run that Bendis destroyed

- Like the quantum tower and shadows

- Did not expect Oliver to die in the very first episode.... have a feeling maybe he is not actually gone... or that Old Man Ollie might come back

- Supergirl's world destroyed... wonder if this will stick and she'll be on Earth-1 now, probably everything changes by the end

[Destor]

Watching ep 1 now. Shaping up nicely

[Lock Jaw]

Crisis on Infinite Earths Part Two:

- Tom Welling's cameo was "underwhelming" and have feeling a lot of people will complain about it, but whatever. I wonder if at the end of the sequel comics he gave up his powers, I never actually read through them all. Seems "weird" that Lex would see him as Clark Kent but for some reason not think it possible that he is Clark Kent on his own world....

- Marked out for Kevin Conroy, and the perfect way they introduced him via just using his voice first. His story was also good, and a lot of the lines from Dark Knight Returns.

- Marked the F out for Brandon Routh Superman, and the return of the John Williams Superman theme. That costume is dope as F.

- "Weird" at not just using the Earth-1 Mick Rory and using an alternate universe one instead.....

[Lock Jaw]

Also watched the first episode of the Harley Quinn animated show and it was pretty good

[Blonde Moment]

It was all pretty good and enjoyed how the fooled us a little on who these characters were and were not. I would really like to see them go through with the Crisis 7 homage and do some manner of Reign of Supergirl stuff intermingled with the leviathan stuff.

However after watching Black Lightning tonight I think everything is going to just be reset with a few odd tweaks.

[Destor]

Ep2



Conroy gets electrocuted. Kate goes to save him. Supergirl says "dont itll kill you!"



...it wouldnt have killed supergirl tho sooooo...??

[Lock Jaw]

Crisis on Infinite Earths Part Three:

- Holy s*** I marked hard at Lucifer appearing

- Haven't watched Black Lightning since season 1.... not because I wasn't enjoying it, but just because there is so much tv..... but it was good to see him

- Green Arrow gonna become The Spectre? I mean, I guess it makes more sense than Green Lantern becoming The Spectre, because he still has a thing for green hoods. Wonder what happens with Ollie's soulless body, though.

- Supergirl continuing to not try to save anybody, but spends the entire episode staring at the book deciding whether or not to use it.....

- Not sure what to think about Ryan Choi yet, especially if the plan is for him to replace Ray on Legends.

- DAMN @ Routh Superman being taken out of the picture.... want more from him. I honestly worry about the Superman and Lois show now, because standing next to Routh as Superman, the other dude looks bush league.

- DAMN @ having to wait until January for the rest

[Lock Jaw]

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Thought this was supposed to be a DC Universe show not another CW show.... I really hope it is good, because I love the JSA/Stargirl. At the very least the costume is better than the other two live-action portrayals.

[slik]

Bleeding Cool reporting the new Batman writer around issue 100 in August 2020 will be a Oscar nominated writer...


https://www.bleedingcool.com/2019/12/10/gossip-oscar-winning-writer-batman-100-luke-fox-replaces-bruce-wayne/

[mitchables]

feels like they're preparing to shutter the streaming service entirely tbh, given this is now on cw and doom patrol is also on hbo max

no idea why they didn't make the platform available globally at the outset. stupid decision

[Lock Jaw]

Just watched second episode of the Harley Quinn show.... really liking it so far....

"lol" at Bane's voice being a Tom Hardy Bane imitation

[slik]

Doomsday Clock finally ending this week, 25 months later...

Feel like there is 'no way in hell' it will be as remotely good as Watchmen on HBO, which might have just had the rare 'near perfect season'.

[Lock Jaw]

Just read Doomsday Clock #12.... marked out for the Justice Society being back, and seeming very similar to pre-Flashpoint... even Maxine Hunkle was there.

Dunno why they randomly replaced Dr. Mid-Nite with a chick, though..... I liked Pieter Cross a lot....
They also brought back the female Wildcat.... so wonder if this new Dr. Mid-Nite is supposed to be Beth Chapel or not....


Happy to see that they brought Superman's parents back from the dead.... always liked them alive more than dead.... Though Bendis is probably just gonna kill them off again....

[Kimberli]

Here's what's interesting: David Goyer and Justin Marks are planning a superhero movie which is the starting point. This is the movie in which the villains From the district of Columbia are sitting in a maximum security prison. Oliver was condemned and thrown into a space that helps people. Can we hope that Slade will appear? I like the idea of someone doing something from comic book characters book of ra gratuit (http://passiongames-fr.com/sloty/book-of-ra-free/) 
 after a train of superheroes. Cartoons are often the focus of absurd situations that usually do not see the light of actual action. this project will interest filmmakers that superheroes are more than a story that follows the original story

[Fignuts]

https://i.imgur.com/RDDZz60.png

[Lock Jaw]

Legends of Tomorrow renewed for a sixth season! (Other Arrowverse shows also renewed, except for the ending Arrow)

[Seanny One Ball]

Is that a bot up there?! I have no idea what the hell any of that meant.

[mitchables]

Legends of Tomorrow renewed for a sixth season! (Other Arrowverse shows also renewed, except for the ending Arrow)

oh hell yeah. HELL YEAH

[Destor]

Thats unexpected AND VERY WELCOMED

[Lock Jaw]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We were casually taking a nap in a bed of Beebo dolls when we heard that we were renewed for season 6. So here’s us waking up from our nap and saying thank you to all the fans that decide to jump on the crazy train with us <a href="https://twitter.com/TheCW_Legends?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheCW_Legends</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/whytheFnot?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#whytheFnot</a> <a href="https://t.co/G4cUDbPrqj">pic.twitter.com/G4cUDbPrqj</a></p>&mdash; Caity Lotz (@caitylotz) <a href="https://twitter.com/caitylotz/status/1214754247582961666?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 8, 2020</a></blockquote>
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[Lock Jaw]

Crisis on Infinite Earths Part 4:

Holy s*** at Ezra Miller Flash cameo. Totally caught me off guard. Good to see him again.

R.I.P. Oliver again for the second time in the crossover.

On to Part 5/Conclusion

[Lock Jaw]

Crisis on Infinite Earths Part 5:

As expected, all the Earths have been combined!

Seems as if the whole Lena storyline on Supergirl might be dropped....

Wonder what happens to Earth-2 characters like Black Canary Laurel, Jessie Quick.... and I guess is Nash Wells the only Wells now?!

Also.... big deal about the worlds combining into one Earth.... but then they just show at the end that there is actually a new multiverse, so why were only a select few worlds combined?

Speaking of the new multi-verse..... Holy s*** Stargirl and the JSA on Earth-2 looked freaking great. S.T.R.I.P.E. looks sweet.... can't wait for that show now.

[Destor]

Pt5


i just happen to have my beebo shirt on today

[Destor]

Pt5


ray: throw like a girl!


Supergirl *totally does*

[Lock Jaw]

Was surprised at how much focus Sarah got... was half expecting her to be named chairman of the League at the end

[McLegend]

I want to like the last Arrow episode, but I feel like I could have had more in the last scene.

[Lock Jaw]

"Emotional" @ Arrow finale..... show def had its ups and downs, but I'll miss it......

[Destor]

Oh it had some downs alright

[Destor]

Birds of prey is thw lowest opening ever for the dcu. Word of mouth has turned movies around before tho.

[Kalyx triaD]

Not if the mouth is vilifying men for not watching it.

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Director Matt Reeves has shared the first look at Robert Pattinson in the Batsuit via a camera test for <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TheBatman?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#TheBatman</a> <a href="https://t.co/S8VQUvaY6Q">pic.twitter.com/S8VQUvaY6Q</a></p>&mdash; Rotten Tomatoes (@RottenTomatoes) <a href="https://twitter.com/RottenTomatoes/status/1228098901703417856?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 13, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TheBatman?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#TheBatman</a><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/CameraTest?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#CameraTest</a><a href="https://t.co/M1tAE2aTA1">https://t.co/M1tAE2aTA1</a></p>&mdash; Matt Reeves (@mattreevesLA) <a href="https://twitter.com/mattreevesLA/status/1228093055103881216?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 13, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Kalyx triaD]

S'alright.

[JimmyMess]

I assume this costume will undergo some changes, but it looks neat!

The cowl has a Judge Dredd helmet kinda feel to it.

[Destor]

Its ok. I dont love the thickness of the cowl but its whatever.

[slik]

Does the bat symbol look like it's made of gun parts to anyone else? Maybe the gun that killed his parents?

(This is just me speculating)

[Damian Rey 2.0]

My veins, inject that into please

[Destor]

Ftr i expect this to flop because of its lead.


Whos good but most only see him as thw twilight guy and with DCU being a bit of a meme at this point...not feeling optimistic

[Lock Jaw]

I think if it is actually a good movie and gets good reviews/word of mouth it will do good.

[slik]

DC has announced the sequel to Dark Knights: METAL and revealed the cover of issue 1:


DARK KNIGHTS: DEATH METAL


https://i.postimg.cc/6pkyVWKs/DC-Comic-Death-Metal-Capullo-Variant.jpg



The Earth has been consumed by Dark Multiverse energy, having been conquered by the Batman Who Laughs and his evil lieutenants, corrupted versions of Shazam, Donna Troy, Supergirl, Blue Beetle, Hawkman, and Commissioner Jim Gordon. Some heroes, like Wonder Woman and the Flash, have made compromises as they negotiate to keep humanity alive in this hell-born landscape. Others, like Batman, are part of an underground resistance looking to take back control of their world. Superman is imprisoned, cursed to literally power Earth’s sun for eternity.

But a mysterious figure provides Wonder Woman with vital information she might be able to use to rally Earth’s remaining heroes to resist the Batman Who Laughs. Can the Justice League break away from the Dark Multiverse and defeat Perpetua, the evil mother of the DC Multiverse?

Issues 1, 2, 3 drop in May, June, July and Issues 4, 5, 6 drop in September, October, November. This one changes everything, not a cliche, a guarantee.




This is the event that is expected to lead into DC's much mentioned 5G era (fifth generation era) of superheroes, with all the DC major heroes aging and being replaced by newer and younger characters. The rumored list is below in spoilers if you haven't seen it.



Luke Fox - Batman
Adult Jonathan Kent - Superman
New WW
New GL
New Aquaman
New Flash

and so forth...

These changes have been rumored to come from Warner Bros, who said DC Comics major characters are not diverse enough, too male and too white.

To appease older fans DC expects to write non-canon stories starring the traditionally known characters for their Black Label line, per BleedingCool.

[slik]

More on changes because of the upcoming 5G...

Green Lantern Season Two has been changed from 12 issues to 8 issues as DC needs Grant to end his story in 2020 because they have 'other plans' in 2021.

DC's Free Comic Book Day will release "Generation Zero: Gods Among Us" which will hint at the massive changes to come in the DCU. Cover below:


https://i.postimg.cc/zfP7JRYm/small-colors-fcbdvs2final.jpg

[slik]

DC has also announced it will begin publishing GENERATION books to reveal the secret history of the DC Universe that is leading to biggest change to come.



What was the previously undocumented “big bang” of the Age of Mysteries?
Which character truly ushers in the dawn of Super Heroes, inspiring all the rest?
What was the real reason behind the Justice Society of America’s retirement?
Which Golden Age hero will become history’s greatest villain?
What contentious alliance kept the Wayne family dynasty alive after Thomas and Martha’s deaths?
Who are the new, never-seen-before wildcards that will be instrumental in fashioning DC’s push to the future?



The books will be:


Generation One: Age Of Mysteries

Generation Two: Age of the Metahuman

Generation Three: Age of Crisis

Generation Four: Age of Rebirth

Generation Five: Age of Tomorrow


credit - bleedingcool.com

https://www.bleedingcool.com/tag/5g/

[Destor]

I think if it is actually a good movie and gets good reviews/word of mouth it will do good.
Very optimistic of you. One major issue tho. Good movies flop all the time.

[Lock Jaw]

Yeah, but not good movies with Batman.

Batman is still a very popular character. Even if people hated Ben Affleck and the DCEU, they'll still go out in droves to see a new Batman movie if they hear it is good.

[slik]

Batman I expect to do just fine at the box office.

He's Batman. Matt Reeves will deliver something pretty kick-ass.

[Destor]

Yeah, but not good movies with Batman.

Batman is still a very popular character. Even if people hated Ben Affleck and the DCEU, they'll still go out in droves to see a new Batman movie if they hear it is good.
And those films (and the ones without him barring Wondy) have damaged the brand

[Damian Rey 2.0]

And those films (and the ones without him barring Wondy) have damaged the brand

Hence the complete reboot. Aquaman, coming off the stench of Justice League, did pretty well.

The director has a strong track record. Pattinson has come a very long way from his Twilight days, the last of which will have came out 9 years before this movie is released.

Michael Keaton was the absolute last choice for his Batman film. Turned out just fine. If the film is good, people will go see it. Batman still sells.

[slik]

Pattinson is great, I've never seen Twilight.

[slik]

The Batman is rumored to based upon Batman: The Long Halloween, which would make sense with everything we know so far. Early in Bats existence, but not an origin.

Hell of a story too.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I was excited the minute Reeves got the gig. I've liked all his films so far. His Ape movies were top notch.

[Destor]

Not if the mouth is vilifying men for not watching it.
Random update: as of now 54% of BOP viewers have been men. IE more men have seen it than women. Amusing.

[Lock Jaw]

Really think that the marketing failed BOP big time

[Destor]

Undersexualizing Quinn and rating R took the teenage boys out of the market which is a big hit

[Destor]

That should be their primary dwmo

[Lock Jaw]

I was gonna say about how I didn't even know/realize it was rated R until I went to see it.

Was thinking about the Harley Quinn show and how good it is, but remember thinking "too bad they can't be as violent and foul-mouthed in the movie"

[Kalyx triaD]

Random update: as of now 54% of BOP viewers have been men. IE more men have seen it than women. Amusing.

Demographics got little to do with the box office, since men's money ain't different from a woman's money.

*Nobody* likes that rhetoric, including women.

[slik]

More 'road to 5G' with the end of the Wally West miniseries 'Flash Forward'

Wally is now in the Mobius chair, which also now possesses the power of Dr. Manhattan, and he can see everything that was, is and will be....including the upcoming DEATH METAL and how it will change DC forever

[slik]

I like this -- I could see the cape being CGI.

(keep in mind set pics from Black Panther in Civil War, Spidey in Homecoming and Cap Marvel people thought the suits looked bad....but they all looked great on camera...plus this is clearly a stunt guy and not Robert Pattinson)



https://i.postimg.cc/23pZ4JHb/image.jpg

[slik]

Dan Didio is no longer the Publisher for DC Comics. He's held that position for a decade - that is big news. I wonder who takes the top position next!


https://www.bleedingcool.com/2020/02/21/scoop-dan-didio-no-longer-publisher-of-dc-comics/

[Lock Jaw]

My first memory of Dan DiDio is when he took over the Superboy comic book and made it terrible........ and then they made him Publisher and I was like "WTF?"

[slik]

I wonder if this will kill 5G/Generation Five

Hmmm

I read a rumor recently DC wants to hire more authors of TV/Animation to write big series bc their Young Adult graphic novels by novelists have been well-received.

[slik]

Bleeding Cool has more on Didio leaving - he was fired


https://www.bleedingcool.com/2020/02/21/why-dan-didio-leave-dc-comics/




Bleeding Cool now understands that yes, DiDio was fired this morning by Warner Bros at 10.30am PT in their Burbank offices and he left the building straight away. I am told by sources close to the situation that he was fired, for cause, for 'fostering a poor work environment' – as evidenced by significant departures at the publisher by editors. Dan DiDio has a reputation of being a micro-manager from some, for being very involved in projects from others. And DC Comics was heading towards a big change in its publishing programme – one aspect of which was the much-rumoured 5G – or Generation Five. Which would have seen DC's major figures Bruce Wayne, Clark Kent, Diana and more aged out and replaced with new characters taking the roles of Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman as part of the new DC Timeline. And some folk at DC Comics were very much against this. But opposition never worried Dan, after all he was at constant odds with the direction the company line was pushed for pretty much his entire career as Publisher, and was always was striving to put comics first, as he saw it.


But in recent months, there seemed to be editorial backtracks on the direction given, details changes and a general sense of frustration that the clock was ticking and that nothing was being done. We saw a rapid departure in DC editorial of Pat McCallum, Alex Antone, Molly Mahan, Rob Levin and others. Certainly, DiDio's departure was a surprise – to him as it was everyone else. I understand that it was internally announced at a series of small staff meetings at Burbank today.


Jim Lee is the remaining Publisher and CCO at DC, and so will be steering the ship for the foreseeable future.


There was a lot of discussion amongst retailers about DiDio's firing, with comic book writer Scott Snyder's name being mentioned a lot as a factor. Internally at DC Comics, Snyder was seen as someone opposed to what was being planned with 5G, and thought it could harm retailers. Snyder and DiDio were not eye-to-eye creatively, but I understand that Snyder merely wanted to keep his upcoming Death Metal comic book as far away from 5G/Generation Five as possible, intending to use the series to celebrate DC's 85 years to date, rather than anything forward-looking. This frustrated DiDio's plans to introduce 5G with Death Metal. And as a result, mentions of Death Metal were taken out of the planned Generation Zero: Gods Among Us story for Free Comic Book Day.


It is now possible that DC's Free Comic Book Day offering may change again as a result, even though it is up for FOC this weekend. But all this is being worked out in real-time this weekend at Burbank. As of now? According to people working on it, 5G is still launching in October. In what shape or form, I haven't a clue.

[Lock Jaw]

My first memory of Dan DiDio is when he took over the Superboy comic book and made it terrible........ and then they made him Publisher and I was like "WTF?"

Seriously, Superboy was one of my fav books at the time.... And then DiDio came in, threw away the setting and supporting cast and changed everything, and it sucked Big time.... Was canceled shortly after.....

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ReleaseTheSnyderCut?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ReleaseTheSnyderCut</a>. Only on HBO Max 2021. <a href="https://twitter.com/ZackSnyder?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ZackSnyder</a> <a href="https://t.co/cfXCK1B6pA">https://t.co/cfXCK1B6pA</a> <a href="https://t.co/hqeA9i7tTL">pic.twitter.com/hqeA9i7tTL</a></p>&mdash; HBO Max (@hbomax) <a href="https://twitter.com/hbomax/status/1263169877847625728?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 20, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Destor]

Gross

[Lock Jaw]

Yeah, all those who have been petitioning for it for 2 years are just gonna end up going "Oh yeah..... Zack Snyder..... now I remember" and like the theatrical cut more.

[Destor]

Its like...you saw the films he made yeah? You realize that the version we got was 85% his...right?

[Seanny One Ball]

In retrospect it should really have been The Flash beating up Wonder Woman.

HcK9hQlOYSI

[Seanny One Ball]

I wonder what the missing 15% will be filled with.
Probably more stuff that DC heroes shouldn't be doing anyway, almost certainly something that will ruin another memory.

[Lock Jaw]

I'm one of the few who liked Justice League as it was..... Certainly wasn't the best and nowhere near what a Justice League movie could be.... but I liked it.

I think others are just holding out hope that the 15% will make them like it. Then be angry when it doesn't.

[Lock Jaw]

Random clip from Doom Patrol season 1:

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[Seanny One Ball]

I gave Justice League 2.5/4 which was pretty generous in retrospect. I have seen it twice since then and it's probably more of a 2/4 film.

Zach Snyder seems to be trying to destroy Superman for everybody.

[Lock Jaw]

I seem to have rated it an 8/10 at the time. Would probably go a bit lower now.

But I did actually enjoy it. Not great, and nowhere near what a Justice League movie could be or should be..... but many a Marvel movie that I would rewatch Justice League over rewatching them.

[Lock Jaw]

Read a thing the other day that the Justice Society is gonna be in the Black Adam movie, and depending on how well Black Adam does, they are "keeping in mind" the option of a future JSA movie (nothing in development, just that they are open to it).

[Seanny One Ball]

I put all of my eggs in the Shazam basket and I regret nothing.

Though Aquaman really was a good film. It has a few runtime issues but it's up there, easily the best besides Shazam.

[Seanny One Ball]

I think The Rock playing heel again will be a real treat. I'm looking forward to it.

[Lock Jaw]

Aquaman I'd put up there as one of the best modern superhero movies....

[slik]

I also liked Shazam and Aquaman


I've always been a Shazam Fan in general

[slik]

This is a good Shazam series, you can read it online free here...


https://readcomicsonline.ru/comic/shazam-2018

[Seanny One Ball]

Imagine being the studio head that thought "I'm giving Aquaman to horror auteur James Wan" just before he made them a billion dollars.

The balls!

[Destor]

I gave JL a 6/10 and i was def right

[Seanny One Ball]

3/5 shows benefit of the doubt, which is fair.
I think it was fair +

[Lock Jaw]

Haven't finished the last season of The Flash, but the actor who plays Elongated Man has been fired from the show for some racist misogynistic tweets he made in the past or something.....

[Kalyx triaD]

HBO's going balls deep in Snyder's DC universe. Things about to be complicated.

[drave]

As things do when one goes balls deep into them.

[Destor]

Haven't finished the last season of The Flash, but the actor who plays Elongated Man has been fired from the show for some racist misogynistic tweets he made in the past or something.....i read them. Tame is an understatement

[slik]

Sounds like the issue of Batman w/ Punchline (Joker's new girlfriend) has been selling extremely well, might be the most bought issue of Batman in a long time

[slik]

DC canned it's long-time relationship w/ Diamond, who distributed all of DC and Marvel comics. They are using two smaller publishing houses now. A lot of people wondering if this will hurt or help comic book shops, because they will have to pay more money on shipping now to get comics in, especially outside the U.S.

[slik]

bleedingcool.com reporting all previous plans, like the big 5G "age out all the heroes" stuff is off the table permanently now that Didio is out.


Bleedingcool hinting DC is looking to get away from monthly printed comics in the next several years because ATT/WarnerMedia see the fast turn around time for printing, rushed editing and it just doesn't make sense in 2020 financially....Said in the next few years expect DC to shift more towards Original Graphic Novels, especially geared towards teens, as recent OGNs have sold really, really well (slik note: I liked the Catwoman one, "Under The Moon") and there is no rush to get them to press. They also won't have to worry about continuity, as all OGNs take place in their own, contained universe. DC recently signed a big deal with book publishing magnate Penguin Books, who will help market and distribute all future OGNs. Moving away gradually from monthly comics is rumored to be part of the reason they canned Diamond as well.


BleedingCool.com speculates if monthly comics exist in a few years, it will be less titles and likely all digital release only.

[slik]

To give you an idea of what that future might look like....Here all the recent original graphic novels DC has done so far (the art in the Dick Grayson one was cool)


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[slik]

And here are the upcoming OGNs


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(House of EL Book One: The Shadow Threat)
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[slik]

First look at Punchline

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[Lock Jaw]

Read the Mera one.... and that's it....

I think getting away from monthly comics is actually not a bad idea.... just been chugging along for so long.... goes through so many peaks and valleys in terms of storytelling..... graphic novels allow them to just tell stories "as they come" and "develop them more"....

Something like their Earth One graphic novels would be good.... like instead of monthly Superman/Batman/Etc.... you just get occasional graphic novels that form a continuity.... (and then you can continue to do all the non-continuity graphic novels too)

[slik]

I wish they'd do more Earth One stuff

I really enjoyed the Superman Earth One series

[Damian Rey 2.0]

bleedingcool.com reporting all previous plans, like the big 5G "age out all the heroes" stuff is off the table permanently now that Didio is out.


Bleedingcool hinting DC is looking to get away from monthly printed comics in the next several years because ATT/WarnerMedia see the fast turn around time for printing, rushed editing and it just doesn't make sense in 2020 financially....Said in the next few years expect DC to shift more towards Original Graphic Novels, especially geared towards teens, as recent OGNs have sold really, really well (slik note: I liked the Catwoman one, "Under The Moon") and there is no rush to get them to press. They also won't have to worry about continuity, as all OGNs take place in their own, contained universe. DC recently signed a big deal with book publishing magnate Penguin Books, who will help market and distribute all future OGNs. Moving away gradually from monthly comics is rumored to be part of the reason they canned Diamond as well.


BleedingCool.com speculates if monthly comics exist in a few years, it will be less titles and likely all digital release only.

This is kinda cool actually. After they rebooted the new 52 I stopped collecting Batman. If they came out with a few graphic novels a yr I'd be happy to fork over the cash for a long read as opposed to watching a storyline play out over a yr or so.

[Lock Jaw]

Like, I think monthly comic books "peaked" a long time ago, like early 2000s maybe..... and since then just been awkwardly dragging things out, rebooting, reshuffling, retooling, just trying to fill every month with content..... still have some good peaks in there no doubt, but overall just doesn't have that "momentum" behind it.....

[slik]

That's my take too @Damian Rey


The endless 'event series' have sort of done me in too...their next one by Scott Snyder, DEATH METAL, is supposed to somehow tie in ALL of DC History but here's the thing....that is like EVERY DC 'event series' now. It gets so silly after a while when DC is like, ok let's make our little mythology even more complex by adding another hidden layer to it and another biggest bad of all-time.

I think the last big events I enjoyed were either FLASHPOINT or BLACKEST NIGHT. DC's obsession with it's own continuity has become way too complex. Just tell me a good story.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I've never bothered reading those because they just seem needlessly convoluted. I loved Snyder's run on the new 52 reboot of Batman. Court of owls and zero year were stellar. I'd love you see more big stories like that in one long read.

[slik]

I also started avoiding anything to do w Brian Michael Bendis as a writer. When he came to DC as the genius of Marvel, who birthed so many things that found their way into the MCU I thought 'cool, time for a fresh voice'.


Everything I've read he's written in DC so far has been a massive waste of time. NOTHING HAPPENS I want to estimate 80-90% of the time in his plots. And the things that do, are never elaborated on or explained. He has done more harm to Superman as a character than any writer I think ever. Supes was in such a good place too when Bendis took over as it's new creative auteur. The entire Superfamily is a huge mess now, just a massive, massive mess. I wanted to see how he would handle an event series so I gave his Leviathan series a shot and that was the final straw. That was the worst 'event series' I have ever read and the most pointless. NOTHING HAPPENED. It could have been one-issue, not six.


The plot, based on a big mystery, which happens off-panel, has a stupid twist no one could guess because the big reveal involved someone who had not appeared in the book. And then it was left open-ended with zero resolution. DC of course stupidly promoted it as something that would change DC forever.

[Lock Jaw]

To me, I think things peaked when they had the JLA/JSA/Young Justice books going.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

The positive about doing graphic novels 3 or 4 times a yr is that you can treat them like movies. One big story that'd typically span a year or so if published monthly. Also the writers could take their time.

[slik]

I've never bothered reading those because they just seem needlessly convoluted. I loved Snyder's run on the new 52 reboot of Batman. Court of owls and zero year were stellar. I'd love you see more big stories like that in one long read.

I love those too. Court of Owls I thought could be cool villains in a bat-film someday.


I think at this point if I'm following DC mythology correctly...The multiverse was created by Perpetua who is the mom of the Anti-Monitor and Monitor and she wants to turn it evil and use it (the multiverse) as a weapon to destroy all of the other multiverses (because there can't just be one) because there is now an "omniverse" of unlimited multiverses created by whatever type of being Perpetua is. And the reason we've never heard of her before during any of the umpteen mulitverse events is because she was trapped in the Source Wall, which shielded DC's multiverse from the omniverse. But there is also, now, of course, THE DARK MULTIVERSE, which is made up worlds deemed not good enough for the multiverse. And Perpetua needs to control the dark multiverse to control the multiverse so she can destroy the omniverse.


Or something like that. Until DC reboots with some other god-awful idea that will probably be crafted by Bendis and make zero sense. Definitely not convoluted at all, I can't understand why you have avoided these things Damian!

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Yeah fuck that nonsense.

Agree on Court of Owls as movie villains. Maybe if Reeves' Pattinson led bat movie does well he'll go to them next. Seems to fit his style of villainy.

Here's the other thing I'd love about OGN; the art would stay consistent. I hate reading graphic novels that are told thru different character issues. Always takes me out of it whenthe art changes.

[slik]

And I like w/ OGNs they could tell the story, through one or four graphic novels and then boom, someone else could tell a totally different story without worrying about continuity. Just focused on good stories and nice art.

[slik]

wrap it up asap


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;I'm heading toward the end of my run on Superman. So I've been more reflective on it and...I will never be more grateful than I got to heal my near-death experience through Superman and then get through this pandemic.&quot; - <a href="https://twitter.com/BRIANMBENDIS?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BRIANMBENDIS</a> in his interview on &quot;Off Panel&quot;.</p>&mdash; Comic Boom! - Shakalaka Boom! (@Metropolis40) <a href="https://twitter.com/Metropolis40/status/1270001415729995778?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 8, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Damian Rey 2.0]

And I like w/ OGNs they could tell the story, through one or four graphic novels and then boom, someone else could tell a totally different story without worrying about continuity. Just focused on good stories and nice art.

Exactly

[slik]

I read DEATH METAL #1 and actually really liked it.

It had quite the surprise ending - I did not expect this to happen in issue 1 of the series



Diana kills The Batman Who Laughs by cutting him in half with her chainsaw

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[slik]

I already love the tonal shift


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">First ever sneak peek at JL. Get ready for more at DC FanDome. <a href="https://twitter.com/hbomax?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@hbomax</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/releasethesnydercut?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#releasethesnydercut</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/DCFanDome?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#DCFanDome</a> <a href="https://t.co/WIWwFo4Xnt">pic.twitter.com/WIWwFo4Xnt</a></p>&mdash; Zack Snyder (@ZackSnyder) <a href="https://twitter.com/ZackSnyder/status/1273646510542974981?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 18, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I already love the tonal shift


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">First ever sneak peek at JL. Get ready for more at DC FanDome. <a href="https://twitter.com/hbomax?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@hbomax</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/releasethesnydercut?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#releasethesnydercut</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/DCFanDome?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#DCFanDome</a> <a href="https://t.co/WIWwFo4Xnt">pic.twitter.com/WIWwFo4Xnt</a></p>&mdash; Zack Snyder (@ZackSnyder) <a href="https://twitter.com/ZackSnyder/status/1273646510542974981?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 18, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

As mediocre as Man of Steel was and as bad as BvS was, they were at least visually compelling and have lots of good bits and pieces that just don't add up story wise.

Justice League didn't have that. I did a re watch the other day and man it's just boring to look at. Snyder's cut will certainly be interesting if nothing else.

[Lock Jaw]

Excited for the return of Doom Patrol

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[Nark Order]

Alright. I'm actually excited this thread is still going. Since my last run here I've gotten ridiculously into DC. I'm making my way through all of rebirth at the moment. Currently caught up with:

Flash Rebirth
Batman Rebirth
Superman Rebirth
Action Comics Rebirth
Super Sons

Working on:
Nightwing (Issue 25 atm)
Red Hood/Outlaws (Issue 20)

I've gotta say, rebirth has been fucking awesome for the most part. Tom King Batman is a little baffling sometimes because it essentially feels like a romance novel but I cant help but like it more than dislike it. There's valid reasons to dislike it but Tom King is a fantastic writer, IMO. Even when I dont like the stories that are being told, they're always told well. Initially wasn't digging Seeley Nightwing but I think I'm back in after "Nightwing Must Die." Williamson Flash is tits as fuck. Not sure if I'm in with all of the different "forces" that were introduced because it feels like a rehash of the Lantern colors in a way but everything else has been on point. Superman Rebirth was almost life changing. I've never been able to dive into Supes until now but it's been the most enjoyable series I've read so far.

I'm going to read all of rebirth, just going to take me a moment. Might not read Batwoman though because I don't want to repeatedly slam my head against my desk.

[Lock Jaw]

Detective Comics Rebirth was incredibly good.

Yeah, I loved Superman Rebirth..... just wait until you get up to where Bendis comes in and ruins everything

[Nark Order]

Detective Comics Rebirth was incredibly good.

Yeah, I loved Superman Rebirth..... just wait until you get up to where Bendis comes in and ruins everything

I'll get there eventually but I'm deliberately avoiding it for now.

[Lock Jaw]

I also really enjoyed Green Lanterns, the book starring Simon Baz and Jessica Cruz.... a shame that they canceled it to have Grant Morrison (generally overrated) write the only Green Lantern book.....

[Nark Order]

I also really enjoyed Green Lanterns, the book starring Simon Baz and Jessica Cruz.... a shame that they canceled it to have Grant Morrison (generally overrated) write the only Green Lantern book.....

I've been doing two series at a time on DC Universe app. On Nightwing and Redhood atm. Once I'm done I'm gonna jump into Green Lanterns .

Order will be something like:
Green Lanterns
Titans
Suicide Squad
Detective Comics
Hal/Green Lantern
New Superman
Teen Titans
Batgirl
Deathstroke
Supergirl
JLA
The Terrifics

Probably missing some. Gonna hit it all though. Maybe not Cyborg or Blue Beetle because I haven't heard good things and zi don't think I'm be missing out on anything imperative.

[Lock Jaw]

Did you do Aquaman? Aquaman was consistently good through the New 52 and into Rebirth...

Or are you one of THOSE people who hate on Aquaman

[Nark Order]

Naw, Im down with Aquaman. Just forgot to put it on there. I heard Aquaman Rebirth was good. Forgot Green Arrow too. Ill eventually get through it all. Try to read at least 5 comics a night if I can. I have babies coming soon though so I might be doing this at a snails pace soon.

Dc Universe App isn't current with all the issues either so I'll eventually have to completely catch up with everything. I'm looking at it like a project.

[slik]

I agree on Flash Rebirth -- I'm not sold on the forces but I've loved the run overall. I really, really liked the Flash: Year One arc.

Co-signed on Tom King. His Bat/Cat stuff is great and, I don't know if you've heard of this, he did a one-shot Batman/Elmer Fudd crossover. Yes, that Elmer Fudd. Yes, I know that sounds ridiculous.

Yes, it is also amazing.

Ohhhh Lock Jaw and I are so on the same Bendis page w/ Supes. Everything Bendis has done to Supes just upsets me as a comic fan so much. I think I'd consider it the worst run on a character in DC history possibly.

Elmer Fudd/Bats by Tom King tho -- amazing.

[Lock Jaw]

Scott Snyder also partially to blame for stealing Lex Luthor.... feel like the years long arc of Lex Luthor playing hero had a very "unsatisfying conclusion" of pretty much "yeah, forget this"..... feel like after all that, I wish the payoff was more....

Not that I have read any of the Year of the Villain stuff.... mad behind.... last Justice League I read was that crossover with Aquaman....

[Nark Order]

Where do we all stand on Heroes in Crisis? Lots of fan boys motherfuck Tom King to death for HIC. I actually liked it but it definitely had a fatal flaw. The big gaping problem to me was that there's no justification for Wally reacting that way to the situation. I can buy that it happened and how it happened, I cannot make sense of what he did afterwards (being vague for spoiler sake. Don't know if anybody cares or not.) It just feels like it flies in the face of everything WW stands for. Story pretty beautifully written though.

[Lock Jaw]

I liked the idea behind Sanctuary, but yeah... Wally reacting how he did seemed pretty far fetched....

Have not read his "Flash Forward" series to see if they already somehow Parallaxe'd him or something

[slik]

I wish HIC had a stronger ending tying up Sanctuary -- but I did really like it quite a bit. Loved the art. Loved the little character bits we would get in each issue.

Wonderfully written and fantastic concept.

[slik]

I liked the idea behind Sanctuary, but yeah... Wally reacting how he did seemed pretty far fetched....

Have not read his "Flash Forward" series to see if they already somehow Parallaxe'd him or something

Flash Forward ends with

Wally has absorbed the powers of Dr. Manhattan. He is a good guy who wants to save the multiverse to atone for what he has done.

[Nark Order]

Yeah, Im back in on Seeley Nightwing. The bastard roped me back. Nightwing Must Die was better than expected. He's pulling in alot of stuff from Grant Morrisson era Batman and I'm a bit if a sucker for it. Also, Seeley is really good at capturing the Grayson/Damian relationship, which I'm a solid fan of.

[Kalyx triaD]

This thread is over 10yrs old, Narc. And that's 10yrs healthy engagement. It's sister thread kinda dried up, tho. I got my theories on that.

[Nark Order]

For real had no idea slik was a comic book guy until he started commenting on my comic posts on Facebook. Pleasant surprises all around. Lock Jaw and Kalyx are the usual suspects.

[Lock Jaw]

Although as stated I am way behind on everything... seems like I haven't regularly read anything in like 1.5 years....

Last thing I did read was actually Marvel, was catching up on Star Wars comics.....

[Nark Order]

I read digital so it's easier to do alot at once. I guess that's controversial to some people. I tend to buy the trades that I like though

[Lock Jaw]

I read mostly digital..... Last stuff I was buying was the Superman Rebirth stuff..... bought a bit of the Bendis stuff, but stopped due to the aforementioned frustrations....

Also bought Metal/Doomsday Clock/Heroes in Crisis.....

As far as trades go, I bought Green Lanterns and New Super-Man. Would have bought more Rebirth stuff, but I think I am largely "done" with physical copies.... dunno...

Only thing I see myself buying is future hardcover editions of "Saga"....

[Lock Jaw]

Michael Keaton in talks to appear as Batman in the upcoming Flash movie (and maybe a multi-movie deal)

[Destor]

The flash movie is going to be how they retcon the universe and that has me excited

[Kalyx triaD]

Gustin should cameo since everything is canon now.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I'm excited for Keaton but he better be in a damn batsuit.

Always thought they should've done an animated film for the scraped 3rd Burton film much like they did animating new 60s adventures.

Honestly, if the Snyder JL cut is a hit in terms of viewers, maybe throw money at him and the cast to get them to finish part 2 if it ends on a cliff hanger in animated form

[Destor]

Itll get views. Car wrecks get views too.

[Seanny One Ball]

Yeah I dunno if casting Keaton as Batman is a great idea creatively right now...
I understand the financial rewards of this sort of thing but it reeks of pandering and I think a few of us are getting sick of mechanical nostalgia.

Stranger Things was so bad...

[Kalyx triaD]

Disagree.

[Fignuts]

This thread is over 10yrs old, Narc. And that's 10yrs healthy engagement. It's sister thread kinda dried up, tho. I got my theories on that.

Because Marvel has been shit outside of a few good books for a while now.

I’ve honestly been a lot more into image comics than either Marvel or DC.

Much nicer reading one book for one story, without having to worry about about how 70 other titles and an annual crossover are going to affect it.

[slik]

James Tynion's first arc on Batman as headwriter ended today with quite the twist, setting up his big "Joker War" arc he's been hyping.

I gotta give DC credit on this, for keeping this twist from being revealed earlier. Joker's going to have some fun w/ Gotham and the Bat fam...




Bruce is a tax cheat!

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Battle of the Joker's girlfriends between Punchline and Harley

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Uh oh....

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[Damian Rey 2.0]

Well that's interesting

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Yeah I dunno if casting Keaton as Batman is a great idea creatively right now...
I understand the financial rewards of this sort of thing but it reeks of pandering and I think a few of us are getting sick of mechanical nostalgia.

Stranger Things was so bad...

The difference here is that Keaton has been as far away from Batman as you can get since the 92 film. Yes it's nostalgic but it also serves a purposeand fits in with the mythology of the books and multiple universes. I'm all for it.

[Seanny One Ball]

He has played two winged comic book characters since Batman.
He's not that far away...

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I mean, those movies were 20+ years after Batman Returns and neither were Batman type characters. At least the vulture wasn't. I haven't watched Birdman. This is pretty cool. I was 3 when Batman 89 came out and that's the movie that hooked me. So for me, this is fucking awesome. Keaton is the Batman of my childhood.

[Destor]

Birdman is brilliant

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I've heard great things and my brother has it on vudu I just haven't gotten around to it.

[Seanny One Ball]

Ed Norton and Michael Keaton play the role of their own reputations.
It's a great film.

[Nark Order]

Caught up on Nightwing Rebirth. I wanted to like it all the way through but it got real fuxkin weird after he got shot in the head in Batman Rebirth 55 .
I wasn't a fan of the Defacer stuff in the beginning, then they sold me on it, then they abandoned it. So what the hell. Raptor was pretty dope though. I'm firmly in the camp of "Nightwing needs his own villain instead of Batman retreads" except in the case of the court of owls. I'm alright with them exclusively being NW territory now, it makes sense. Highlights of the run was definitely the "Rise of Raptor" and "Better than Batman" stuff. Oh and the arc with the Judge was fucking incredible. Lowlight to me was the Wyrm arc and the Ric Grayson shit (which I almost couldn't bring myself to finish). Was slow to finish this because it got really slow and I wasn't excited to read it after awhile.

I do two rebirth series at a time so now I'll be on:

Red Hood Outlaw/s Rebirth (still)
Aquaman Rebirth

[Nark Order]

Keep in mind I'm not fully caught up, just caught up on what they have on the DC Universe app. I think this series stopped at 62. Ill keep up as issues are put on there each month.

[Lock Jaw]

Dick Grayson sure been through the ringer past number of years..... "killed" and becomes a super-spy (I actually really enjoyed the Grayson series)... then brought "back to life" and becomes Nightwing again.... only to be shot in the head and forget who he is and become Ric Grayson

[Seanny One Ball]

When does he go queer and become Gay Dickson?

[Kalyx triaD]

This thing with Punchline is dumb but I have a strange kind of foresight telling me that the general direction between Harley and the three Jokers thing will lead to Harley becoming the new Joker in a twisted spin on the mantle passing thing. Won't be now, or even next year, but it's coming.

[Kalyx triaD]

And that Joker will be a hero.

[Lock Jaw]

Nah. Harley Quinn and Joker are too popular to really change.

Speaking of, just watched season finale of Harley Quinn.... such a great show. Really pulling for a Season 3.

[Nark Order]

Aquaman Rebirth not even giving me time to settle in. You're just going to start with a Black Manta battle? I just got here. It's like when your NFL team starts the season with a divisional rival. You're not even going to give me some time to get comfortable? We're just going to start with violent and bitter warfare? Don't even know what to do right now.

[Nark Order]

I didn't even get an appetizer. This is so much to handle right now.

[Seanny One Ball]

Speaking of, just watched season finale of Harley Quinn.... such a great show. Really pulling for a Season 3.


It is pretty damned funny.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

https://cosmicbook.news/ben-affleck-batman-contract-hbo-max?amp

This is the second article I've seen with rumors of Affleck returning. I figured if true, perhaps HBO max was going to commission Snyder to finish his Justice League sequel and/or pull a Netflix and making shows or miniseries based on DC properties that would allow them to have higher production values and darker themes, like Daredevil.

If true, then color me pumped. Keaton coming back to dawn the batsuit, Affleck having his Batman exist in his own universe, and Pattinson getting to reboot the movie universe Batman. It might be a fun time to be a DC fan.

[Seanny One Ball]

Ben Affleck needs to fuck off and just direct or retire or something.

[Seanny One Ball]

And it's "Batman" not "Batmen" so one at a time is enough.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Meh. DC has endless stories it can tell. There's no reason not to explore as much as possible. Affleck was good in bvs. Prob the best part of the movie, even tho lunatic Batman isn't my cup of tea.

I still think Snyder's cut of JL will prob be bad. But if that spins Affleck into his own focused miniseries exclusively on HBO, count me in.

[Kalyx triaD]

Nah. Harley Quinn and Joker are too popular to really change.

The last ten years of comics and general entertainment has been a refutation of this kind of reassurance.

[Lock Jaw]

Nah, not really. Temporary changes can be made for sure, but the classics always return

[Kalyx triaD]

With wildly retconned or diminished personalities, sure.

[Lock Jaw]

Nah..... they are always basically the same

[slik]

Damn, read another rumored Bendis idea on BleedingCool...

Please get him away from Superman ASAP



Bendis is building towards Superman becoming the leader of The Authority (Midnighter, Apollo, etc)


https://bleedingcool.com/comics/gossip-superman-lead-the-authority-2021/

[Kalyx triaD]

But Superman will basically be the same, I hear.

[Nark Order]

Aquaman Rebirth is dope as fuck so far. So much has happened and I'm only 12 issues in.

[Lock Jaw]

"A new rumor suggests Warner Bros. is planning to reboot Justice League with a film entitled Justice League: Rebirth.

According to DCEU Mythic, the film will have no connection to either 2017's Justice League or the forthcoming Zack Snyder's Justice League. It's also unclear who will comprise the team's roster, what the story will center on and who Warner Bros. is eyeing to lead the project from a creative standpoint."

[Nark Order]

I am subscribed to a subscription service touted to be the "ultimate DC Comics experience," yet every awesome DC announcement coming out has nothing to do with "the ultimate DC Comics experience." I mean, I would sub even if it was only comics but them taking on all these projects that purposely avoid DC Universe doesn't make me feel like I'm apart of "the ultimate DC Comics experience."

[Lock Jaw]

Dunno. I can see them bundling HBO Max and DC Universe...... with DC Universe either being a free add-on, or very cheap.

But makes sense "from a certain point of view" to keep their movie/TV stuff on one platform. Like, all the Marvel shows they are making are gonna be on Disney+ not the Marvel Comics App.

[Nark Order]

I would be fine subbing if it was just comics but that's not what they advertised. Honestly, they bungled DC Universe so bad. For how awesome it is now, they royally fucked up launch and they never really fully recovered from it. First, the name absolute fucking sucks and is confusing because they have a video game of the same name, making it weird to search for. Second, they didn't get on gaming consoles for like a year and they still never made it to PS4, which cut out a large portion of their demo. Thirdly, they cycle content in and out instead of just adding video content. Lastly, every cool thing DC announces is on some other platform. If it is on DCU, its on another platform also (Stargirl).

That being said, I love the app. Im on it every day and have platinum status. The community is awesome, the original content they actually do have is good, and the archive of comics is fucking massive. It could have been alot more than it is though and its pretty clear they have put it on the backburner to pursue other projects. They wouldn't have had to do this if they had their shit more together at launch

[Destor]

The shows are being pulled from the app because it cant financially support them. Its not a choice. The app is a failure and right now AT&T is trimming fat. They cant keep losing money. Moving these shows to a platform with a larger install base is the only way to pay for them.


These are necessities. Things continue like they are and theyll have to sell licensing for these brands altogether.

[Nark Order]

Naw, I get why. Their marketing teams are just complete knuckle dragging morons.

[Lock Jaw]

Is the Marvel Comics app pushed/advertised at all in the USA? Feel like I barely hear anything about it..... so pretty similar to what DC Universe will be.... those hardcore fans who want it will get it, while those more casual who only care about tv/movies can get another service.

But I agree at DC Universe seeming to want to be a more "multimedia" thing was a big failure.....

[Destor]

I dont know where theyre marketing the marvel app. Word of mouth?

[Fignuts]

This is the first I've heard of it. What is even the point of it with Disney Plus available?

[Lock Jaw]

It is for digital comic books and prob like more than 80% of the people interested in the MCU movies/shows have no actual interest in reading the comics

[Nark Order]

Yeah but Marvel Unlimited is just a comics library. Warner put millions upon millions of dollars into original content for the DC Universe app. When they went live, their distribution was through their own platform, Roku, and maybe Apple. Thats it. When it first came out, I couldn't justify it because I couldn't watch any of the content anywhere but my phone and that blows. Not to mention they had maybe 1000 comics. They launched way before they were ready, in my opinion, and it hurt them. By the time they became fucking awesome, alot of people had already made up their minds.

Its a great product now but early execution was so awful. Ended up costing them alot of money.

[Nark Order]

Not to mention that they just made really fucking weird PR decisions also. They announced that Swamp Thing was canceled before the show debuted. I can't logically find a reason why they did that. Even if they weren't going to renew it, it seems insane to announce a show is canceled before it ever airs. That also put an aura of "oh damn. Maybe this app isn't going to last" into the air so it hurt subscribers right before an event that would have brought in subs. They frustrate the fuck out of me.

[Lock Jaw]

Yeah, no doubt they would have been better off just making it a comics library and focusing on that.

Doom Patrol and Harley Quinn are fantastic though, so glad we got that out of it.

Titans S1 was like a trainwreck that you can't look away from, haven't watched season 2.

Missed out on Swamp Thing, but with all the production nightmares and getting canceled before airing or whatever it was.... kind of killed the hype for it.

Stargirl alright so far. Things I don't like, things I like. Still need to see where it goes. With it going to the CW it will last like 17 years like all CW shows. Just worried about the budget for S.T.R.I.P.E.

[Nark Order]

Swamp Thing is fucking dope, by the way. You should make it a priority to watch it at some point.

[Lock Jaw]

Think I heard that CW also got the rights for that and will be playing the season sometime this year....

[Nark Order]

Think I heard that CW also got the rights for that and will be playing the season sometime this year....

Yeah, it's pretty brutal and graphic though. See it before they CW edit it into a Dawson's Creek spin-off.

[Lock Jaw]

Unfortunately, as I said, I missed it when it was originally playing here, and they aren't really itching to replay it I guess.

[Nark Order]

I have it on the blue ray, sonnnnnnn.

[Lock Jaw]

Pfffft physical media.....

[Nark Order]

I was stream elitist until maybe a few months ago when I realized that all of my favorite media is in the hands of corporations that can edit it however they please. Now I'm going to be the Indiana Jones of DVDs.

[Lock Jaw]

Yeah... I do really want a cut of the original Star Wars trilogy that is the one I grew up with.

Which was apparently already not the original cut, so I guess I don't want that either (but I'd take it over what they got now).

[Destor]

Ive been building a physical film collection for half a decade or so. Trying to own all the classics. In the very near future we're going all digital so i think a physical library is going to grow in value

[Seanny One Ball]

Amateurs

[Lock Jaw]

Javicia Leslie cast as the new Batwoman

Instead of being a recast Kate Kane, she will be a new character and new Batwoman:

Ryan Wilder is about to become Batwoman. She's likable, messy, a little goofy and untamed. She's also nothing like Kate Kane, the woman who wore the Batsuit before her. With no one in her life to keep her on track, Ryan spent years as a drug-runner, dodging the GCPD and masking her pain with bad habits. Today Ryan lives in her van with her plant. A girl who would steal milk for an alley cat and could also kill you with her bare hands, Ryan is the most dangerous type of fighter: highly skilled and wildly undisciplined. An out lesbian. Athletic. Raw. Passionate. Fallible. And very much not your stereotypical all-American hero.

[Kalyx triaD]

Here we go.

[Lock Jaw]

HBO Max announced that it has given a "series commitment" to a show about the Gotham Police Department, from The Batman filmmaker Matt Reeves, and Boardwalk Empire creator Terence Winter.

Said that it will "launch a shared universe across multiple platforms"

[Nark Order]

Dunno. Feel like of theyre going to put time and money into a DC show, they have so many options. Lots of concepts I would choose before a show about Gotham PD.

Swamp Thing
Deadman
The Terrifics
Static Shock
Lobo
Teen Titans
JSA
Hawkman/Hawkgirl
Suicide Squad
Nightwing
Super Sons

[slik]

I think I read Adam Strange is getting an HBO show too....only two issues into his miniseries from Tom King but so far, so good...really enjoy Tom King as a writer.

[Lock Jaw]

Hourman currently on the Stargirl show, but.... I always wanted to make a gritty/dark version of Hourman.... yeah, I know gritty/dark from DC movies is kind of a cliche, but....

Just think a movie/show about some dude..... who just wants to leave his mark on the world and help people.... but then ends up getting addicted to the drug he created, and the adrenaline of being a hero, and increasingly gets more desperate as his body becomes acclimated and he constantly tweaks his formula, ignoring his own wife and son in favour of his own pursuits...

[Lock Jaw]

Now that I mention Stargirl.... a Starman show would have been "dope"

[slik]

how was swamp thing (the show)

did anyone watch it

[slik]

slik is a fan of the following characters outside of the batverse

shazam
supes
flash
aquaman
swamp thing

[slik]

big fan of geoff johns era of green lantern too and blackest night...not sure abut anything since then tho tbh

[Lock Jaw]

how was swamp thing (the show)

did anyone watch it

Please read Narc's posts.

[Nark Order]

how was swamp thing (the show)

did anyone watch it

Truly amazing. Like, really good.

I'm a bit biased because I'm a huge fan but the general consensus was also that it was magnificent.

[RP]

narc hacked?

[Lock Jaw]

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Yyyyyeah buddy (Didn't know what thread to put this in. Decided on this one)

[Kalyx triaD]

Nice.

[slik]

Bleedingcool hinting DC is looking to get away from monthly printed comics in the next several years because ATT/WarnerMedia see the fast turn around time for printing, rushed editing and it just doesn't make sense in 2020 financially....Said in the next few years expect DC to shift more towards Original Graphic Novels, especially geared towards teens, as recent OGNs have sold really, really well (slik note: I liked the Catwoman one, "Under The Moon") and there is no rush to get them to press. They also won't have to worry about continuity, as all OGNs take place in their own, contained universe. DC recently signed a big deal with book publishing magnate Penguin Books, who will help market and distribute all future OGNs.


BleedingCool.com speculates if monthly comics exist in a few years, it will be less titles and likely all digital release only.


I can see why

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">2019 North American Comics Sales Hit Record $1.21 Billion <a href="https://t.co/EBH5KQ1Z5O">https://t.co/EBH5KQ1Z5O</a> <a href="https://t.co/GBdp2CFHJg">pic.twitter.com/GBdp2CFHJg</a></p>&mdash; Publishers Weekly (@PublishersWkly) <a href="https://twitter.com/PublishersWkly/status/1282691410370723843?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 13, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>




Driven by continued growth in popularity of the graphic novel format, combined sales of graphic novels and periodical comics in the U.S. and Canada totaled roughly $1.21 billion in 2019, according to a joint estimate produced by trade news sites ICv2 and Comichron. The $1.21 billion estimate represents an 11% increase over total comics and graphic sales in 2018.


The increase in sales was led by the graphic novel book format, in particular continued growth in sales of children's graphic novels, sold via the bookstore channel, which includes chain bookstores, online retailers, mass market stores, and Scholastic Book Fairs. And while the book format led sales growth overall, sales of periodical comics in the comics shop market were also up by about 5%.


"The massive shift to graphic novels as the preferred format for comics continued in 2019, bringing sales in the book channel above the comic store channel in North America for the first time in the history of the medium," ICv2 CEO Milton Griepp said of the findings.


In 2019, North American sales of the graphic novel format were about $765 million, while sales of periodical comics were about $355 million, with sales of digital comics at about $90 million.

[Kalyx triaD]

Hero books down 9%. Manga and children's comics up.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I can see why

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">2019 North American Comics Sales Hit Record $1.21 Billion <a href="https://t.co/EBH5KQ1Z5O">https://t.co/EBH5KQ1Z5O</a> <a href="https://t.co/GBdp2CFHJg">pic.twitter.com/GBdp2CFHJg</a></p>&mdash; Publishers Weekly (@PublishersWkly) <a href="https://twitter.com/PublishersWkly/status/1282691410370723843?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 13, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

We talked about this already but graphic novels are definitely the way to go.

[Destor]

Long form novels > monthly serials

[slik]

From the newest issue of DEATH METAL

People will either like this or hate it I have a feeling...Alan Moore will probably hate it.




https://readcomicsonline.ru/uploads/manga/dark-nights-death-metal-2020/chapters/2/15.jpg

https://readcomicsonline.ru/uploads/manga/dark-nights-death-metal-2020/chapters/2/16.jpg

https://readcomicsonline.ru/uploads/manga/dark-nights-death-metal-2020/chapters/2/17.jpg

https://readcomicsonline.ru/uploads/manga/dark-nights-death-metal-2020/chapters/2/18.jpg

https://readcomicsonline.ru/uploads/manga/dark-nights-death-metal-2020/chapters/2/19.jpg

https://readcomicsonline.ru/uploads/manga/dark-nights-death-metal-2020/chapters/2/20.jpg

https://readcomicsonline.ru/uploads/manga/dark-nights-death-metal-2020/chapters/2/21.jpg

[Kalyx triaD]

...

What the fuck is going on?!

[Destor]

Thanks. I hate it.

[slik]

I like it, but am also cautious via Scott Snyder's tendency to go ultra-esoteric-cosmic and then not really follow up or follow through.

Like two issues from now that character could be totally different is what I mean. I remember it seeming like a huge deal when Sandman was in Darkest Knight: METAL but then nothing really happened with it.

I take Perpetua's words to mean




She'll get offed soon and the rest of her race of beings will become the new big bad, alongside The Darkest Knight

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Well that was weird but my gawd I could look at Capullo's art all day.

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Rorschach.<a href="https://twitter.com/TomKingTK?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TomKingTK</a>. <a href="https://twitter.com/jfornes74?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@jfornes74</a>. <a href="https://twitter.com/Dragonmnky?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Dragonmnky</a>.<br><br>Twelve issues. Starts October 13.<a href="https://t.co/ESGvCOfyFd">https://t.co/ESGvCOfyFd</a> <a href="https://t.co/oTAJibClHm">pic.twitter.com/oTAJibClHm</a></p>&mdash; DC Nation (@thedcnation) <a href="https://twitter.com/thedcnation/status/1283385834239139842?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 15, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Destor]

So in the D.C. canon did the watchmen novel not take place or was Rorschach resurrected

[Lock Jaw]

There was a new Rorscach is Doomsday Clock. The son of the psychiatrist who visited him in prison or something

[Kalyx triaD]

Doesn't even matter anymore, bro. Current universe was the result of Dr Manhattan being bored. It's all kitchen sink now.

[Tom Guycott]

I dont know where theyre marketing the marvel app. Word of mouth?

The last time I knew of any actual advertisement for the Marvel app that didn't pop up online while I was actively researching something about a Marvel character out of conversational need or random curiosity was, and I shit you not, an OTA radio spot. Something about that felt off for what they're trying to do. Like the next step is to hire a street team in random cities to staple flyers to phone poles like 90s rap concerts to completely miss your audience.

It is for digital comic books and prob like more than 80% of the people interested in the MCU movies/shows have no actual interest in reading the comics

So, exactly the same issue I'm having with Disney+... I want to watch the new episodes of the new Ducktales (so good), but I can't, because D+ only has through season 2... season 3 is on that Disney XD, which is free but you have to be watching in conjunction with a cable subscription to unlock the service. Not fooling with any of that is exactly the reason why I have Disney+, and it makes no sense to me why you'd have two different streaming services (as a company, I mean, not as a subscriber) with different content.

Yeah... I do really want a cut of the original Star Wars trilogy that is the one I grew up with.

Which was apparently already not the original cut, so I guess I don't want that either (but I'd take it over what they got now).

I have a particular DVD set of the original trilogy with the original films on them like a "bonus feature" (and I think they all have the same demo of the first LEGO Star Wars... have to go back and look). The sound is intentionally mono crippled, and its in black bar 4:3 instead of theatrical widescreen, but unless you go completely old school and hunt down the final release of the widescreen VHS set, Indy, that's about as good as it is going to get.

[Destor]

There was a new Rorscach is Doomsday Clock. The son of the psychiatrist who visited him in prison or somethingcomplete trash

[Lock Jaw]

DC already announcing their next big event for December... "Endless Winter".... at least finish your current big event first.... plus p sure they already did an endless winter crossover with Final Night

[Fignuts]

Reading a bunch of stuff from last year.

Holy shit at Female Furies.

Just...fucking YIKES

[Kalyx triaD]

Darkseid by way of 'Rapey Office Manager' is pretty next level.

[slik]

The WarnerMedia shakeup which saw Kevin Reilly, who brought AEW to TNT, let go has now crept into DC Comics.

Sounds like DC Editorial getting massive layoffs:


https://bleedingcool.com/comics/dc-comics-editorial-bloodbath-going-on-right-now/

[slik]

I'm sure it's not this bad but still YIKES, hope all the people let go land on their feet.


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Seems like they’re just leaving enough staff to put out “Batman” twice a month. <a href="https://t.co/xmOE2K8NyN">https://t.co/xmOE2K8NyN</a></p>&mdash; Comics Bookcase...NEXT DOOR is now on Kickstarter! (@ComicsBookcase) <a href="https://twitter.com/ComicsBookcase/status/1292961605580394496?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 10, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Kalyx triaD]

DC suffers this before Marvel, wtf?

[Destor]

thats what they get for fucking with watchmen :mad:

[Lock Jaw]

Alan Moore put a hex on them

[slik]

update from bleedingcool




https://bleedingcool.com/comics/after-the-bloodbath-the-start-of-a-new-two-year-plan-for-dc-comics/

With so many staff leaving the company, around a third it is estimated, the continual production of comic books is likely to take a hit, but the graphic novel line, which has become more valuable to DC, is so far in advance of production, that no one would notice until well into 2021.

We also hear about what is described as a Two-Year Plan for DC Comics which will see DC Comics move to mass-market production through Walmart, the licensing of titles with editors moving to brand manager roles, alongside a move from DC to digital serialisation and original graphic novels. Content will still be provided to the direct market but it will no longer be the priority that it (still) is at DC Comics.




<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I’d say it’s 50-50 whether DC Comics is still publishing monthly periodicals for the direct market in 2 years.</p>&mdash; Chase Magnett �� (@ChaseMagnett) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChaseMagnett/status/1292981054819762176?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 11, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It’s also worth noting that DC’s “creator leadership” group was already experiencing forms of consolidation as King, Snyder, and Johns have all signaled—to different extents—they are stepping back from the core superhero line.</p>&mdash; Chase Magnett �� (@ChaseMagnett) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChaseMagnett/status/1293002277305724928?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 11, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[slik]

^^^

Dreading this means in a pond getting a little smaller the Bendis fish is getting larger...

[slik]

would prefer the Tom Taylor and James Tynion fishies get larger instead

[Destor]

monthly comics is dead anyways

[slik]

Aquaman cancelled w/ issue 65 in November.

[Lock Jaw]

Damn... (not that I am reading anything at the moment)

[slik]

Cancelled:

Suicide Squad
Hellblazer
Hawkman
Teen Titans
Young Justice
Harley Quinn
Batgirl
Red Hood: Outlaw
Batman And The Outsiders
Justice League Odyssey

[slik]

Plot Twist:

Red Hood: Outlaw renamed to Red Hood w/ new creative team starting in November that will take Jason Todd back to living and being based as a Gotham City superhero.

https://bleedingcool.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/red-hood-51.jpg

[slik]

Some rumors of DC doing a reboot in January when DEATH METAL ends and the ENDLESS WINTER event might lead to it.

[slik]

Jim Lee told The Hollywood Reporter than John Ridley (Oscar winning writer of 12 Years A Slave) will be doing a Batman miniseries that will have a huge impact on the Bat-line. Ridley was the author scheduled to write Luke Fox as Bats when 5G was going to be a thing.

Interesting.

[Lock Jaw]

Ben Affleck coming back as Batman in The Flash movie

[slik]

Glad to hear, I am a fan of Battfleck

[Lock Jaw]

Yeah, be good to give him an "ending" of sorts before Pattison takes over