DC Universe Thread

[Destor]

Love joss. Love him more for not writing a bad movie for the paycheck

[Lock Jaw]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING: This may be our first look at Zachary Levi as Shazam. Expect an official reveal soon. <a href="https://t.co/CIWagDJVcB">pic.twitter.com/CIWagDJVcB</a></p>&mdash; Batman-News.com (@BatmanNewsCom) <a href="https://twitter.com/BatmanNewsCom/status/968536038154096642?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 27, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[slik]

Will look better on camera...all superhero costumes look really bad when pics leak of filming

[Lock Jaw]

Dunno, I thought it looked really good!

[Sixx]

Dunno, I thought it looked really good!

Right?

It does look good. Not great, but that's cause of Levi's physique, the suit is cool.

[Kalyx triaD]

Looks nice.

[Shadow]

Pretty spot on to the comics.

[JimmyMess]

Yeah from that shot it looks identical, not sure how much better it can look

[JimmyMess]

Also:

http://ca.ign.com/articles/2018/03/01/kristen-wiig-in-talks-to-play-cheetah-in-wonder-woman-2?abthid=5a975820b10d09530c000327

Kristen Wiig as Cheetah? That's some crazy casting rumours!

[Kalyx triaD]

Should be Charlize Theron.

[Fignuts]

Charlize would be good. I think Danai Gurira would be even better.

[Lock Jaw]

Ava DuVernay (Selma, A Wrinkle In Time) has been announced to be working on a "New Gods" movie.

[Kalyx triaD]

Terrible.

[Fignuts]

I saw the the trailer for a Wrinkle in Time in theaters and it looked like a made for TV movie with a bigger budget. Fucking terrible.

[Destor]

YES

[Fignuts]

Should get whoever did set and costume design for Thor Ragnarok. Lots of kirbyesque elements translated brilliantly into that film. A must for a New Gods feature.

[Lock Jaw]

Dunno what DC is doing with their Justice League comics....

Just announced new monthly title Justice League Odyssey. With the roster of Cyborg, Starfire, Green Lantern Jessica Cruz, Azrael, and Darkseid.

Yes, Darkseid is joining a Justice League team.

[Destor]

Comics are out of ideas. Have been for sometime.

[Lock Jaw]

Dunno, been enjoying DC comics Rebirth.

[Fignuts]

Yeah, there's still great stuff out there, even within big mainstream companies like Marvel and DC. The big titles like Avengers and JLA do fall on some tired, boring tropes at times, but you get a good story out of them once in a while.

The more low key titles are typically where you can find good reads.

[slik]

Dunno, been enjoying DC comics Rebirth.

Same here

[Lock Jaw]

Y: The Last Man TV series finally moving forward at FX.

Deadline reports FX has ordered a pilot written by Michael Green (American Gods, Blade Runner 2049), who will serve as showrunner with Aida Mashaka Croal (Luke Cage, Turn).

Super excited for this. One of my fav comics.

[slik]

Action Comics #1000 is released today

[Kalyx triaD]

With underwear.

[Lock Jaw]

Gonna pick it up after work.

[Lock Jaw]

Super excited about the underpants being back. Probably way more excited than a grown man should be.

[slik]

I don't 'get' why is anyone is bothered by it.
That's how Supes looked for most of his existence. I'm cool w/ it.

[KIRA]

I don't 'get' why is anyone is bothered by it.
That's how Supes looked for most of his existence. I'm cool w/ it.

Because underwear on the outside looks kind of goofy
Wait does this mean he's going back to it because I was kind of enjoying his Kryptonian armoresqe suit

[Lock Jaw]

He hasn't been in the armour since Rebirth, but he still had no underpants.

The underpants really tie the costume together, IMO

[Lock Jaw]

Bought it. There was a whole slew of covers for it and I had a hard time choosing, and immediately regretted my pick (although it is good).

Anyways.... about to crack it open and read....

[slik]

Which cover did u get... K Lane got this one


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Got my copy of Action Comics 1000<br><br>Happy 1000th <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Superman?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Superman</a> <a href="https://t.co/FxDHJyH3JL">pic.twitter.com/FxDHJyH3JL</a></p>&mdash; Kenton Lane (@TheKentonLane) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheKentonLane/status/986769979772166144?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 19, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[Lock Jaw]

That's the one I got too, actually.

Was struggling with not getting the one on the top left:

https://www.collectorscornermd.com/assets/img/uploads/summernote/61da4211.jpg

"1940s variant" Superman vs tank

Couldn't find a better picture of it online with the logo

[Lock Jaw]

Looking at it again, wish I got it

[Lock Jaw]

Just read Superman #45 and it was excellent...... sad to see this creative team go..... I hope Bendis doesn't mess everything up......

[Kalyx triaD]

Aquaman trailer and Shazam sizzle reel were presented at a DCEU panel and... reactions were positive.

[slik]

Oh I didn't hear about Shazam yet. I gathered Aquaman looks epic and massive...and that makes me happy, I've always been an Aqua fan.

Destor will be happy to learn Bradley Cooper's directorial debut, the musical remake of A Star Is Born, starring Cooper/Lady Gaga also apparently went over like gangbusters with it's trailer.

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">DC revealed the covers of it's latest DC vs Looney Tunes crossovers. Porky Pig looks kind of terrifying. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/DCComics?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#DCComics</a> <a href="https://t.co/yzo9jawo25">pic.twitter.com/yzo9jawo25</a></p>&mdash; Kenton (@TheKentonLane) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheKentonLane/status/997175593694302208?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 17, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[Lock Jaw]

Batwoman announced for next season's DCWVerse crossover

[Destor]

Im down. I'll have to watch arrow again i guess...

[Lock Jaw]

I'm pretty far behind on both Flash and Arrow right now.... haven't watched either in weeks...... Actually, I'm two weeks behind on Supergirl now too.....

[Destor]

Flash has been climaxing really well. Really enjoying it. Supergirl is a bit of chore but its more meh than bad. Arrow i havent watched in at least 8 weeks.

[Ezra]

Haven't seen an episode of arrow, flash or supergirl since winter break so I've got some binging to do.

[Lock Jaw]

I was also enjoying Black Lightning, but haven't watched it in ages either.

Just too many shows on TV.

Watched the first two episodes of Krypton, but I just don't want to commit to it so I stopped taping it. (especially since those two episodes didn't grab me at all)

[Ezra]

I haven't touched either of those but they are both on my watch list. Haven't seen a single episode of agents of shield either. I'm so far behind. TV season is about done though so i will have plenty to watch as summer comes full force.

[slik]

Smart business move imo

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">PST! I'm writing a Batman epic! AND working with my new neighbor and Nuclear Man superfan @nickderinton. Massive new reader outreach program!! Another reason I'm with DC now. DC to produce original comics for Walmart starting July 1 <a href="https://t.co/vXdss0hRw4">https://t.co/vXdss0hRw4</a></p>&mdash; BRIAN MICHAEL BENDIS (@BRIANMBENDIS) <a href="https://twitter.com/BRIANMBENDIS/status/1010255638763483136?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 22, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[Lock Jaw]

I'm sure they will just be generic out of continuity stories

[slik]

Written by Tom King, Palmiotti, Bendis, etc though...which means they will likely be really good. Bendis's Batman story will be 12 issues long.

[Destor]

Sounds awful

[Lock Jaw]

I'm sure they will do graphic novels of the various new content from those books, which seems better than buying a book filled with a lot of reprint material or y'know having to go into a WalMart.

[Kalyx triaD]

Out of continuity stories and 1-shots with very badic status quos is how a LOT of people got introduced into comics at a young age. It wasn't The Long Halloween #4, it was some random mini-adventure of Batman chasing Joker, sold at a 7-11. Both Marvel and DC need to beef up stuff like that again.

[Lock Jaw]

Just read Batman #50, the big wedding issue of Batman/Catwoman

They don't get married in the end

[slik]

I enjoyed Batman #50

I also really enjoyed Bendis's six-part Man Of Steel miniseries and I will definitely check out Action Comics when he takes over.

[Lock Jaw]

Need to pick up the last three issues of Man of Steel..... haven't been by the comic book shop in awhile....

[Destor]

If you dont go itll go out of business

[slik]

A lot of good stuff I've read in DC lately:


Flash Wars
Batman by Tom King
Justice League by Scott Snyder
Man Of Steel by Bendis
Plastic Man
Hawkman
Sideways
Doomsday Clock


Looking forward to the next event series "Heroes in CRISIS" as well

[Lock Jaw]

James Tynion's Detective Comics run that just ended was really good too..... if you never checked it out..... I hope the dude taking over can still make it good.....

Enjoyed Flash War
Justice League and Hawkman also pretty good....

Finished Man of Steel and thought it started off a lot better than it ended..... we shall see where it goes from here, though....

Sideways is alright..... even if it reminds me of some sort of riff on Spider-Man...... Haven't read some of the other "new age of heroes" one yet.... Damage is pretty much a riff on The Hulk, and The Silencer is pretty much a riff on John Wick..... The Terrifics reminds me of Fantastic Four (while New Challengers does not)

[Lock Jaw]

https://static1.cbrimages.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/shazam-first-look.jpg?q=35&w=864&h=576&fit=crop

[Ezra]

He will always be Chuck to me.

[Sixx]

But dayum, this looks good.

[slik]

Looks like what I'd want a Shazam to look like.

[Lock Jaw]

In other news, Legends of Tomorrow will not be part of the crossover this year (bullpoop) that is set to introduce Batwoman, who is being eyed for her own spinoff show.

[Destor]

hard to write for so many characters TBH.

[Lock Jaw]

Lose the crappy Arrow characters

[Lock Jaw]

If they do make a Batwoman show, I think Arrow is definitely getting canceled/replaced with it.

[Kalyx triaD]

If they do make a Batwoman show, I think Arrow is definitely getting canceled/replaced with it.

...Why?

[Lock Jaw]

Because Arrow already feels like it is "past due", and another "non-powered vigilante" feels like a replacement to me.

[Destor]

Arrow has ran its course...but Legends will go first

[Kalyx triaD]

Because Arrow already feels like it is "past due", and another "non-powered vigilante" feels like a replacement to me.

Except CW diversifies in themes rather than archetype. Batwoman will likely be an LGBT detective thing.

[Lock Jaw]

Joker origin movie set for release on October 4, 2019. 13 months after shooting begins

[Lock Jaw]

Batman getting his underpants back outside his costume too!

[Kalyx triaD]

I liked the onsie. Supes needed the undies.

[Lock Jaw]

Yeah. I didn't really miss Batman's underpants like I did Superman's.

[Kalyx triaD]

Shazam and Aquaman both look pretty good actually.

[Lock Jaw]

Can't be "arsed" to bump the Legends of Tomorrow thread, but....... Biff Tannen cast as Nate's dad

[slik]

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[Lock Jaw]

Ruby Rose cast as Batwoman

Dunno.

[Kalyx triaD]

lol They cast the first lesbian they could find.

...

She's cute.

[KIRA]

Batwoman I love that even though she wears the symbol she doesn't necessarily like Batman and sees his whole thing is a cult) one of my absolute favorite characters I cannot wait to see how she does

[Destor]

I hope its half as good as Legends of Tomorrow

[Seanny One Ball]

lol They cast the first lesbian they could find.

...

She's cute.


She looks like a little boy.

[Kalyx triaD]

A hot little boy.

...

With tattoos.

[Destor]

98% find her exceptionally attractive. My concern is she's one note as an actress. If they play her like girl batman her one noteness can work since batman is super one note but otherwise im not sure if she can play the part of a series lead.

[Destor]

Anyone wanna guess on her team of diverse sidekicks?

[Destor]

Black tranny is my top choice

[Destor]

Asexual hispanic man

[Destor]

Some kind of furry

[KIRA]

Batman getting his underpants back outside his costume too!

I don't understand why everyone so adamant about that?

[KIRA]

98% find her exceptionally attractive. My concern is she's one note as an actress. If they play her like girl batman her one noteness can work since batman is super one note but otherwise im not sure if she can play the part of a series lead.

Kate is well her personality it's not perky but it's not Batman grim either

[Lock Jaw]

I don't understand why everyone so adamant about that?

I don't think they are. Superman, yes. Batman, it was just like "Ok, this is good too"

[Lock Jaw]

Annnd Ruby Rose has quit Twitter due to negative fan backlash.

[Kalyx triaD]

What? Batwoman is canon gay, what possible backlash would there be?

Something fishy is going on.

[Lock Jaw]

The article I read didn't give any examples but it listed:

- They cast a non-Jew
- They should have casted a lesser known Lesbian, but they didn't even look.
- Maybe Ruby Rose isn't gay

As three types of backlash that some fans were doing.

[JimmyMess]

I think its cause the fans believe Ruby Rose is not a very good actress. I recall hearing the old rumour mill spew about her lines all being cut from John Wick 2 because she didn't know how to talk

[XL]

The article I read didn't give any examples but it listed:

- They cast a non-Jew
- They should have casted a lesser known Lesbian, but they didn't even look.
- Maybe Ruby Rose isn't gay

As three types of backlash that some fans were doing.

Fucking hell.

[Destor]

Most of the backlash is two things:

1. SJWs mad she isnt a jew
2. SJWs mad she is a "lesbian for striaght guys" i.e. hot.

[Lock Jaw]

Gotta find a reason to get mad, I guess.

[Shadow]

What? Batwoman is canon gay, what possible backlash would there be?

Something fishy is going on.

It's called "we can't have nice things" and it's something fans have been doing since forever.

[Kalyx triaD]

I would not object to the shutting down of twitter.

[slik]

Just finished Justice League 6. Think I might give up the series.


My problem with Scott Snyder's writing from METAL to now is that he has all these big cosmic ideas - but nothing gets time to land. It's just boom, off to the next mythos-defining concept. Barbatos, The Four Brothers, The tribe of the Hawk, The stuff happening now w/ "The Seven Energies" and "The Totality".
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I don't feel like I really got to know Barbatos or The Four Brothers, for example. I'd like to see a concept introduced and then spend months showing me how it really has affected the DCU since the dawn of time. I feel like The 7 Energies/Totality will be the next thing never explained.

[slik]

I was enjoying Sideways until it became unnecessarily grimdark the last two issues, so I might have to give that up. Talk about a tonal shift from a Peter Parker/Dick Grayson type attitude to angry/tortured soul all of a sudden.

[slik]

So far, I'd say Hawkman (which has been Indiana Jones-esque) and Bendis's Superman stuff are what I'm enjoying. Enjoying Tom King's Batman stuff on and off (about to read Batman 53).

[Lock Jaw]

Just finished Justice League 6. Think I might give up the series.


My problem with Scott Snyder's writing from METAL to now is that he has all these big cosmic ideas - but nothing gets time to land. It's just boom, off to the next mythos-defining concept. Barbatos, The Four Brothers, The tribe of the Hawk, The stuff happening now w/ "The Seven Energies" and "The Totality".
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I don't feel like I really got to know Barbatos or The Four Brothers, for example. I'd like to see a concept introduced and then spend months showing me how it really has affected the DCU since the dawn of time. I feel like The 7 Energies/Totality will be the next thing never explained.

Haven't read #6 yet, but agree with METAL and No Justice..... just "too big" with not a lot of breathing room to focus on the characters..... Snyder's run on Batman was great, but he always focused on the characters more than "big ideas" (which he still had, but did alot with the characters still).

[Lock Jaw]

Meanwhile, I finally read all the other "New Age of Heroes" comics.....

I like The Terrifics (Fantastic Four feel), The Silencer (quasi John Wick ripoff), and I still am enjoying Sideways. Would prob rank them in that order.

The Immortal Men and The Unexpected are "interesting" in a weird "this might be good down the line" way.

Damage, Curse of Brimstone, and New Challengers are very skippable.

[slik]

53 was well-written...and I actually like the idea of Batman back in the trunks too but I might take a break from that too...IDK

[slik]

Maybe I should give a different Batbook a try

[slik]

this looks/sounds so depressing

https://i.imgur.com/vVGwroP.png

[Lock Jaw]

Really liked James Tynion's run on Detective Comics, but it is over now, and the current arc/writer doesn't live up to it..... I think James Robinson taking over the book soon.....

[slik]

Oh no James Robinson always writes 'lots of death'

[Lock Jaw]

Oh no James Robinson always writes 'lots of death'

I liked his Justice League when he was writing the actual book. Did not care so much for his Cry of Justice mini... which I guess is what you are talking about....

[Lock Jaw]

Noticed Commander Steel and Power Girl in that Heroes in Crisis promo image..... wonddr what the deal is....

[slik]

It's about a PTSD center for superheroes but a mass shooting or something happens at the ptsd center and DC is teasing 2-3 major characters will die

Feel like it will be 'beloved' characters like Tim Drake, Roy Harper and Wally West and they'll eventually have to 'bring them back to life'. The main characters are supposed to be Harley, Booster, Batman, Wonder Woman and Superman.

[Kalyx triaD]

Can't wait for a second crash that'll force comics to be fun again.

[Lock Jaw]

I know what the event is... just curious of those characters and how they fit into continuity now....

Don't think they will kill Tim, because he just "died" recently. Wally, maybe, but they just brought him back too, so he would probably come back again very soon after and move his story forward another step.....

[Lock Jaw]

Can't wait for a second crash that'll force comics to be fun again.

Read Peter Tomassi's run on Superman or Super Sons...... very fun....

[slik]

Superman has become the most 'fun' DC character lately (imo)...started before Bendis was ever at DC, like you said Tomassi's run.

[Shadow]

Oh look another big event in DC where everyone's in Crisis.

God I hate this so much.

[Lock Jaw]

DC likes it "Crises", Marvel likes its "Wars"

[slik]

That's the truth!

I recently read ZERO HOUR: A CRISIS IN TIME and enjoyed it quite a bit.

[Lock Jaw]

I remember reading that as a kid, and thinking "who are all these lame old dudes?" @ the Justice Society.....

But since then the JSA have become one of my favs and going back and reading Zero Hour now is like "Wow! I can't believe they would just do that! That's outrageous!"

[Kalyx triaD]

Read Peter Tomassi's run on Superman or Super Sons...... very fun....

Oh I love Super Sons. Just a really fun book and a great candidate for an animated movie.

I know there's been some cool hero books but overall, everything's so drab. And if it isn't grim dark It's probably some preachy bullshit. DC is more in the clear than Marvel but generally speaking the big deconstruction wave of comics has left us with two universes of barely heroes.

[Fignuts]

There are lots of individual titles that are fun to read.

Its just the major crossovers that have been shit. If it were up to me I wouldn't even have them as all their fucking tie ins put good stories in other books on hold until the event is finished.

[slik]

People will one day look back very differently on this film, I believe. One of the best scenes in any superhero film, imo.


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[Kalyx triaD]

It's almost from a slightly better movie.

[Destor]

I fell asleep in the theater while watching man of steel

[Simple Fan]

I thought it was good, only DC film I haven't liked is Justice League. Was just atrocious.

[slik]

I think Man Of Steel and Batman vs Superman are better films than most MCU films, but I'm also not a fan of the weird 'Marvel vs DC' obsession people have.

[Lock Jaw]

If you combined the good bits from Superman Returns with the good bits in Man of Steel, you would have a great Superman movie. As it stands, would much rather watch Superman Returns.

[Swiss Ultimate]

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[Lock Jaw]

I would not recommend that one

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Man of Steel was a really interesting film that wasn't very good. But it's the best of the Snyder films.

[Seanny One Ball]

I like everything about it besides the plunge into "reality" with the acknowledged deaths of thousands of innocent bystanders.
Zack Snyder does the one thing that pulls the movie out of fun and into a level of self-worth that almost completely undermines the entire concept of Superman. He did the same thing to Batman. You need a bit of a cheeky wink to camera that lets you know you're ok every now and then. Zack Snyder exchanged the winks for more carnage.
It's a decent film but I don't think Snyder knows how to use comic characters. He's still stuck in Watchmen mode where everything has to die horribly and nobody cracks an honest smile.

He at least had plenty of laughs in Justice League which was actually the only thing that saved it from a negative review. Ezra Miller saved an entire movie that Zack Snyder tried his best to destroy.

[Seanny One Ball]

Oh and Amy Adams. She is a good actress but not in comic adaptations or science fiction films.

[Destor]

He at least had plenty of laughs in Justice League which was actually the only thing that saved it from a negative review. Ezra Miller saved an entire movie that Zack Snyder tried his best to destroy.

I also liked what joss whedon did with justice league

[Kalyx triaD]

Justice League went too far in the other direction. I don't have an issue with the DCEU being the more gloom of the two big universes. It was only BvS that pushed it to a depressing degree. Something a tad lighter than Man of Steel (Wonder Woman really) would be the right tone.

[Sixx]

this looks/sounds so depressing

https://i.imgur.com/vVGwroP.png

What's Superman holding?

[Seanny One Ball]

The Phantom Of The Opera mask or a BAFTA award trophy, or perhaps it's a BAFTA for the Phantom Of The Opera.

[Lock Jaw]

The counsellors at The Sanctuary wear white bedsheets and golden masks. You can see a few in the background. Superman is holding an empty one that is all bloody.

[Seanny One Ball]

Can't even win a BAFTA

[Shadow]

Thought it was Psycho Pirate's mask.

[slik]

Action Comics 1002 really good

[Seanny One Ball]

I also liked what joss whedon did with justice league



I'll be honest. I forget what he's up to these days what with him having been so busy for so long. I now see he was screenwriter, which probably accounts for the quality of Ezra Miller's Flash. Not to detract from Miller because his performance carries that film further than it has any right to go.

[Destor]

The Flash was Joss' classic humor written all over it. If you follow his work as soon as Flash hit the screen youre immediately like "Oh there's Joss." That and aquaman's confession screen Joss' writing style.

[McLegend]

Didn’t like Ezra Miller only because he doesn’t know how to run. Really bothers me.

[Lock Jaw]

Just read the latest issue of Justice League.

"Whoa" @ Starman Will Payton showing up..... one of the last characters I'd ever expect to see again..... wonder how he fits into continuity now....

[Kalyx triaD]

Seems Henry Cavil has quit Superman.

[Lock Jaw]

A shame after he finally had a good showing, but probably for the best to get away from the stink of Man of Steel and BvS and start fresh.

[slik]

I thought Cavil was a great Superman.

Sounds like Michael B Jordan (Kilmonger) might be the new Supes (rumors).

[slik]

There's a graphic novel series called 'Earth One: Superman' I think would make a good Supes film, it's a bit more modern take on him w/o continuity restraints.

[slik]

Speaking of Supes, some funny pages from the latest issue (Earth has become trapped in The Phantom Zone via S.T.A.R. Labs having a woops moment):



https://i.imgur.com/TUGtKsn.jpg


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https://i.imgur.com/qTCFZCk.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/28olxzB.jpg

[RP]

I thought Cavil was a great Superman.

Sounds like Michael B Jordan (Kilmonger) might be the new Supes (rumors).

jesus christ

[RP]

SJW is a virus. It's taking over everything.

[Destor]

There is no talks of a new superman. Its all in on Supergirl....

[Kalyx triaD]

That Adam Strange panel and Superman telling rioters to knock it off is pretty good.

[Lock Jaw]

Skipped over it because I haven't picked up the issue yet.....

[XL]

I thought Cavil was a great Superman.

Sounds like Michael B Jordan (Kilmonger) might be the new Supes (rumors).

He can’t play Superman as he’s not an alien with super powers.

[Simple Fan]

There is no talks of a new superman. Its all in on Supergirl....

Can you do Supergirl without Superman? The TV show couldn't.

[Simple Fan]

If Cavil is out as Superman I think he'd be great as the next James Bond. Don't really think he's out as Superman just yet but he could still do both.

[Destor]

Can you do Supergirl without Superman? The TV show couldn't.

Tv could did and does. The 2 ep supes is in was for fun not necessity

[RP]

I think Cavill is the next big thing in Hollywood which makes this news really unreal, unless he wants out of the role.

DC should be fighting to keep him as Superman. He is the next leading man in Hollywood. He's about to tear it up as The Witcher on Netflix.

Cavill has to be trying to get out of being Superman. Now way DC Movies wants him out. He's the best Superman they can have. It makes no sense. He has to be wanting out of this. Makes sense too. He's literally the next big deal in Hollywood. He might not want to be type casted.

[Shadow]

RP you're making the mistake that DC/Warner Bros. knows what the fuck they're doing. They don't. They're trying to ape Marvel/Disney's success without understanding the work that was put in to make it a success in the first place. Instead, we get the schizophrenic tone the DCCU has that turns off moving goers.

[Kalyx triaD]

Cavil shitposted himself with a Superman toy. Seems this was all hype.

[Destor]

Nah. That guy just got paid is what this was. I got a dollar that says we'll be hearing about a new solo supe film real soon too

[Destor]

Clever negotiating tactic tho. Ballsy too.

[Simple Fan]

Cavil shitposted himself with a Superman toy. Seems this was all hype.

The Superman toy was in a Killmonger box.

[Sixx]

I thought Cavil was a great Superman.

Sounds like Michael B Jordan (Kilmonger) might be the new Supes (rumors).

Terrible casting.

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Todd Phillips shares his first look of Joaquin Phoenix as The Joker. �� (Via: toddphillips1/Instagram) <a href="https://t.co/4W3EiXMbvn">pic.twitter.com/4W3EiXMbvn</a></p>&mdash; IGN (@IGN) <a href="https://twitter.com/IGN/status/1041436393812180993?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 16, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[Lock Jaw]

IGN very misleading with it's description...... Todd Phillips said it was a pic of "Arthur" not "The Joker"........

It is a "Joker Origin" movie, so "Arthur" will eventually become "The Joker", but that is not a picture of it.......

IGN trying to "outrage people" intentionally

[Lock Jaw]

Batman hangs dong in a new comic book:

https://static3.srcdn.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Batman-Penis-Nude-Comic-Damned.jpg?q=50&fit=crop&w=738&dpr=1.5
https://static3.srcdn.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Batman-Comic-Naked-Damned-Batcave.jpg?q=50&fit=crop&w=738&dpr=1.5

[Sixx]

That's not real, right?

[Lock Jaw]

From a new comic called "Batman: Damned"

Part of DC's new "mature" "Black Label" line

[slik]

I read it earlier, actually pretty decent and 'dark'

It's own continuity and taking some liberties with some things from Bats past.

[Sixx]

"Mature" and "black label" as in "porn", right?

At least now we've got an answer to the question we've been asking ourselves for decades.

Batman IS circumsized.

[Lock Jaw]

I wonder if his dad did it himself. He was a doctor.

[Sixx]

Thomas Wayne was a doctor? I thought he was some kinda businessman.

[RP]

Unpopular opinion here... I liked BatmanVSuperman and Justice League. I enjoyed those movies.

[Destor]

Batman shaves

[Damian Rey 2.0]

His dick also leans to the right.

BvS is a guilty pleasure. It sucks but I'll watch it every so often because there's some really great scenes. Affleck pretty much stole the show.

[RP]

Also, Batman has a big black dong in that comic.

[RP]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Todd Phillips shares his first look of Joaquin Phoenix as The Joker. �� (Via: toddphillips1/Instagram) <a href="https://t.co/4W3EiXMbvn">pic.twitter.com/4W3EiXMbvn</a></p>&mdash; IGN (@IGN) <a href="https://twitter.com/IGN/status/1041436393812180993?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 16, 2018</a></blockquote>
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I think Phoenix is an amazing actor, but this project he's trying to take on is beyong crazy. Ledger nailed it . You cant nail it any better than Ledger did. I love Phoenix, but man, he cant top Ledger. This is a terrible role for him to go after. I dont even get it. I suppose if anyone can top it, Phoenix is the man, but i think he'll fall short of Ledgers performance.

[Sixx]

Also, Batman has a big black dong in that comic.

It's really not that big.

Also, Damian, I think it's because he's walking.

[RP]

It's really not that big.

Also, Damian, I think it's because he's walking.


its flaccid. Trust me i have a big dong.

[Simple Fan]

I think Phoenix is an amazing actor, but this project he's trying to take on is beyong crazy. Ledger nailed it . You cant nail it any better than Ledger did. I love Phoenix, but man, he cant top Ledger. This is a terrible role for him to go after. I dont even get it. I suppose if anyone can top it, Phoenix is the man, but i think he'll fall short of Ledgers performance.

Watched a fan film earlier called Joker Rising that has me interested to see this movie. Agree Ledger did a great job but I don't think that stops anyone else from pulling the character off. I think Leto did a great job with his version of Joker. Phoenix has that look though that I feel like once he gets into Joker mode it'll just feel right


Here is that fan film. It is a fan film and low budget but it told a good story. Guy that plays Joker reminded me of The Miz. It's about a hour an a half long


aTeR5E0qTck

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I think Phoenix is an amazing actor, but this project he's trying to take on is beyong crazy. Ledger nailed it . You cant nail it any better than Ledger did. I love Phoenix, but man, he cant top Ledger. This is a terrible role for him to go after. I dont even get it. I suppose if anyone can top it, Phoenix is the man, but i think he'll fall short of Ledgers performance.

He doesn't have to top Ledger. And I doubt that's what he's shooting for. It's an interesting character to play, and Phoenix probably sees it as a chance to do something different and fun with an iconic character that he could put his own spin on.

People used to think Nicholson Joker was tut best till Ledger came along. I'm interested to see how this plays out.

[Sixx]

I think he's a terrible choice for Joker, but then again so I thought about Ledger.

I thought Leto might be good but we all know it ended.

So we'll just see.

By the way, we still don't know who's gonna be Batman?

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Leto didn't get a fair shake. He should've been the main villain in that movie. But he was nothing more than a sidecharacter with very little screen time. I don't think we got enough of him to know whether or not he'd be good. I didn't care for all the tattoos tho.

[Kalyx triaD]

They can't just never do a live action Joker again because Ledger was great.

[Seanny One Ball]

They should have used his death for the film.
Coulda had Batman come in and be all "Drugs, Joker? My God..."

[Destor]

They can't just never do a live action Joker again because Ledger was great.

They waited 20 year after Nicholson

[Kalyx triaD]

He was dead in a single movie series until Begins where they immediately put him in a sequel.

[Simple Fan]

Well they've tripled down on Joker sense Ledger with Leto, Phoenix, and the Gotham TV show. I think with the Star Wars rebirth and Hamil getting big praise as the animated Joker they've seemed to want to find that next great live action Joker.

[RP]

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/ke6DoZucws0?ecver=1" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>

This 32 second clip is better than everything Jared Leto. I'm warming up to Phoenix as Joker right now.

[Simple Fan]

I don't like the red nose and blue eye paint. Looks too much like a clown. I know he's the Clown Prince of Crime but I feel like that's too much on the nose so to speak.

Also Leto was a good Joker and didnt get a fair shake at the character.

[RP]

I didnt like the colors either. Red i dont care. THe blue was a little much.

[Lock Jaw]

Probably not the actual "Joker look", but just some actual clown makeup that he wears before he becomes the Joker

[Simple Fan]

Feel like the hair is s bit long as well. I thought Phoenix was a good choice because I imagined his Johnny Cash look only as Joker but that's completely different than what I imagined. I won't let that deter me from the movie as I'm still interested in it but the look has me disappointed.

[Seanny One Ball]

He's a far, far better fit for the role than Jared Leto. I think he's a better pick than Ledger too. Joaquin Phoenix is a consistently great actor and I never had that much love for anyone besides Jack Nicholson in the role.

[Emperor Smeat]

Really like Phoenix's Joker appearance since it gives off a playful sociopath feel to it.

Compared to Legder or classic Joker tv/film appearances, didn't really like Leto's design.

[Sixx]

I think it looks shit. Better than Leto's hipster Joker, but still shit.

[RP]

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[Sixx]

Do we even know who's gonna be Batman?

[Kalyx triaD]

There is no Batman from the sounds of it. Probably no Ace Chemicals, either. Or Red Hood for that matter.

[Sixx]

Umm, yeah, I just read the film is called Joker. I didn't know that. I thought this was gonna be this solo Batman movie Affleck was supposed to direct.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I'm wondering if he gets the traditional Joker makeup later. The outfit is dead on. Kinda surreal this is happening. Read that a Joker Harley spinoff script was turned in today

[Kalyx triaD]

Yeah Leto Joker still lives.

[Destor]

I like how joker/harley joker is younger than the jokee origin story

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I find it oddly confusing and I wonder how the general audience will take to having such a notable character being represented by two different actors with different takes at that same time

[Kalyx triaD]

Perhaps WB believes the audience is ready for such a thing that comics and animation fans already got used to. Personally would not have been my call since it's absolutely gonna cause brand confusion.

[Fignuts]

I like how joker/harley joker is younger than the jokee origin story

Last I heard they're not connected. Only Leto is part of the DCU canon.

[Destor]

People want cannon not what if.

[Kalyx triaD]

A very similar issue was raised by fans when George Miller's Justice League movie was in pre-production during (what we thought would be) an ongoing SuperRouth *and* BatBale series, for potentially three concurrent DC movie-verses.

[Sixx]

That's fucked up.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Let us not forget Matt Reeves' Batman is coming, which has gotten conflicting reports on whether it's canon or standalone. Certain seems to be its own thing much like the Bale Batman was.

[Sixx]

Make 8 seperate universes, why don't you?

DC, you bunch of dweebs. And you're surprised Marvel is absolutely raping you at the box office?

[Damian Rey 2.0]

They can't be surprised. They had it right when they were letting Nolan do his thing. They should've kept up with that. Focusing on standalone films and world building for that one iconic character. Instead they handed the reigns to Snyder, who's really never been any good, and it all went to hell.

[Kalyx triaD]

I feel a great sense of dread that WB's shenanigans will kick off a backlash that will kill DC in movies period. It's too messy, and good looking prospects (Aquaman, WW84, Shazam) will get caught up.

[Seanny One Ball]

Yes that's it, some shit films now will undo history itself.

[Lock Jaw]

I think they need some clearly defined brands/labels. Like the DCEU isn't even an official label. They need a label, and then maybe an "Elseworlds" brand where they can just make whatever kind of one shot movies they want and people won't be confused thinking it is with the larger universe movies.

[slik]

I don't see it as a problem at all that DC's films won't be connected initially.
If they ever want them to be, down the line, boom, cinematic 'Crisis on Infinite Earths'.

It's honestly not that complicated.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

It won't kill DC. If the movies mentioned are good, they will thrives. WW didn't suffer from MOS or BvS. Reeves' Batman will likely draw if it's as good as his previous films.

[McLegend]

This is just a guess, and maybe it’s been mentioned earlier this thread. I think Joaquin Phoenix Joker is a prequel to the Dark Knight.

[Sixx]

Why is he older than the Dark Knight Joker then?

[Destor]

Why is he older than the Dark Knight Joker then?

Time travel.

[Sixx]

Right, sorry.

Carry on.

[Destor]

It was that or magic. Whatever mcguffin we're using this week

[McLegend]

It was just a guess.

[Fignuts]

YOU'RE just a guess.

[Blonde Moment]

Mother fuckers...
The killed WallyWest again

[McLegend]

YOU’RE mother is just a guess.

[Lock Jaw]

Heroes in Crisis

Wally West and Arsenal seemingly dead..... Along with D-list heroes Blue Jay, Lagoon Boy, and "Hot Spot" who I've never even heard of. Some sort of version of Commander Steel appears to be dead as well, which sucks because... who is he? How did he even fit into continuity if all the heroes of the 40s and their legacies didn't exist? I hope they clear up his identity in the future.....

Pretty shocked they killed Wally West... seems like after all the hard work they just did bringing him back, and building him up in Flash War, it would seem like his "story" wasn't done. I think he's coming back (again) sooner rather than later. Perhaps even by the end of this story.

[slik]

I liked Heroes in Crisis 1 more than Doomsday Clock 7.

The only thing I didn't like in HIC was the biggest death

[Lock Jaw]

I liked Doomsday Clock more because I feel like we are getting closer and closer to getting the JSA back, which is really all I want.......

[Lock Jaw]

I gave up on the show 2 or 3 episodes in, but Lobo looking good for Season 2 of Krypton:

https://static2.cbrimages.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/lobo-first-look.jpg?q=35&w=864&h=1294&fit=crop

[Sixx]

I gave up on the show 2 or 3 episodes in, but Lobo looking good for Season 2 of Krypton:

https://static2.cbrimages.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/lobo-first-look.jpg?q=35&w=864&h=1294&fit=crop

Damn, that DOES look good.

[Lock Jaw]

New DC Comics "Bendis-curated Imprint" announced called "Wonder Comics".

https://static3.cbrimages.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/wonder-comics-bendis.jpg?q=35&w=864&h=691&fit=crop

At the least a new "Young Justice" series coming.

Unclear whether the series/imprint will be in continuity or not.

[slik]

They have said YES it will

and Bendis is bringing back Connor Kent (which I think is awesome) and he will be introducing Ginny Hex, the great-great-great-great grandaughter of Jonah Hex, who has an eye for adventure. Also back are The Wonder Twins and a new teenage Green Lantern, who will apparently co-exist w/ Grant Morrison's upcoming quasi-reboot of Green Lantern.

[Lock Jaw]

Oh, didn't see anywhere that said it was in continuity.....

Sweet then at Connor Kent being back, but wonder how he is gonna "fit in" with another Superboy already running around...... Also interested in Wonder Girl since she was pretty heavily messed up by New 52

[Lock Jaw]

Oh, ok. Says "in continuity" right in the press release.

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">First look at our <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bane?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Bane</a> ������<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/gotham?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#gotham</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/gothamtvwriters?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#gothamtvwriters</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/shanewest?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#shanewest</a> <a href="https://t.co/B7XM8pfC7i">pic.twitter.com/B7XM8pfC7i</a></p>&mdash; TZE CHUN (@anygivenchunday) <a href="https://twitter.com/anygivenchunday/status/1054381244140666880?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 22, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[Kalyx triaD]

Gotham can do whatever they want.

[Lock Jaw]

Radical shoulder pads

[Shadow]

.....why...why is Bane in Gotham?

[Lock Jaw]

Why not? Is it really that much of a stretch from all the other villains who have showed up?

[Destor]

.....why...why is Bane in Gotham?

Because as normal the show id and has always been reasonably bad

[Sixx]

I like Gotham. Sure, it's got some stupid ideas (Jerome NOT being Joker, while totally being Joker) and the little shit playing Bruce has a really punchable face, but overall I do enjoy it.

[Lock Jaw]

I was enjoying it, but fell behind somewhere in season 3 and never picked it up again

[Sixx]

Just watched the Titans trailer. Why does everything have to be so fucking gritty these days?

[Emperor Smeat]

Probably just DC trying to strike the iron again and hope they eventually get another Dark Knight series mega hit for their universe.

Marvel has been lucky with their constant striking of the iron since it still pumps out big money making and critical hit films even as people are starting to get tired of them feeling the same visually and plot formula wise. They've been more hit and miss with tv but their universe is still very healthy oerall.

[Kalyx triaD]

Gotham is fucking awesome.

[Lock Jaw]

https://static2.cbrimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/elseworlds-monitor.jpg?q=50&fit=crop&w=738&dpr=1.5

[Sixx]

What is this?